• MATTHEW

    WHOA! I GUESS GOD HAD IT RIGHT! IMAGINE THAT? WHOA!

  • Scott Lachut

    It also really bugs me when I hear the Libertarian side say that there should be no governmental recognition of marriage whatsoever. When they say that, it means that they also fail to understand the points articulated here.

    Man/Woman marriage raising their children is the foundation of civilization. When we lose that simple understanding, we have hard lessons ahead of us to re-learn.

    • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

      While I’m not a Libertarian; I agree with them on this point, but only from this standpoint. Marriage is an institute created by Yahweh (the God of the Bible). Thus, a lawful marriage can only be defined by Him–sodomites, lesbians, anyone who wants to marry his dog, or anything else abominable are automatically excluded.

      “Why do Christians think they need the state to sanction self-defense or any other God-given responsibility? This is a question that should be asked not only by gun owners, but also by anyone who seeks the state’s approval to be married and by preachers who seek the government’s 501(c)(3) tax exempt incorporation status. What Yahweh ordained and commanded does not require the state’s permission or license. If Yahweh’s commands need to be authorized by the state, then Yahweh is subservient to the state.

      “When the government requires a license, it does so to provide legality to what it has otherwise declared illegal. Since when did marriage, preaching the gospel, and self-defense become illegal? Since the state chose to disregard Yahweh’s sanction of these activities and began licensing them. Although the state is currently lenient with those who preach without government sanction, marry without a license, and own firearms without permits, it may not always overlook these “transgressions.” When that day comes, it will be imperative for Christian men to recognize their authority to keep and bear arms comes, not from WE THE PEOPLE, but from Yahweh.”

      For more, see online Chapter 12 “Amendment 2: Constitutional vs. Biblical Self-Defense” of “Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective” at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/BlvcOnline/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt12.html.

    • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

      Scott, I’m not a Libertarian but on this I agree with them. Being that Yahweh (the God of the Bible) is the author of marriage, He’s the only one who can define marriage. Thus, government has no business sticking their nose in anything that Yahweh has already defined as good and evil. When they do, they invariable call good evil and evil good (Isaiah 5:20). Consequently, the State has no business licensing marriage. It’s because they’ve usurped this authority that marriage is being redefined.

      “Why do Christians think they need the state to sanction self-defense or any other God-given responsibility? This is a question that should be asked not only by gun owners, but also by anyone who seeks the state’s approval to be married and by preachers who seek the government’s 501(c)(3) tax exempt incorporation status. What Yahweh ordained and commanded does not require the state’s permission or license. If Yahweh’s commands need to be authorized by the state, then Yahweh is subservient to the state.

      “When the government requires a license, it does so to provide legality to what it has otherwise declared illegal. Since when did marriage, preaching the gospel, and self-defense become illegal? Since the state chose to disregard Yahweh’s sanction of these activities and began licensing them. Although the state is currently lenient with those who preach without government sanction, marry without a license, and own firearms without permits, it may not always overlook these ‘transgressions.’ When that day comes, it will be imperative for Christian men to recognize their authority to keep and bear arms comes, not from WE THE PEOPLE, but from Yahweh.”

      For more, see online Chapter 12 “Amendment 2: Constitutional versus Biblical Self-Defense” of “Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective.” Click on my picture, the our website. Go to our Online Book Page, click on the top entry, and scroll down to Chapter 12.

      • http://christianusa.us/gideonproject Roger Mitchell

        I am a libertarian and a Christian. The two are not mutually exclusive positions. I agree with you, Ted, about the government’s role in marriage and would like to add my two cents.

        In the case of marriage, licensing implies permission. Fact is, when my wife and I were married, we HAD to buy a license from the State. No American today can legally be married unless the State authorizes it. This makes marriage a privilege which is currently legal, but which could be made illegal should the government decide to do so. That is not likely to happen, but it could.

        Marriage is not a privilege. It is not even a right. Rights can be taken away as easily as privileges. Instead, marriage is a gift granted to men and women by God, Who alone determines what is right and what is wrong in and about marriage. Marriage is a responsibility, not only to our spouse, but also under God, to whom we are ultimately accountable.

        If government were to be involved in marriage at all, it should only be in the keeping of records to show who was married and when. Nothing more. My libertarian bent, however, believes that this could be accomplished by the marketplace far more efficiently and effectively. Let’s leave the State out of it.

        • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

          Excellent!

          May I add that you are correct that one cannot be LEGALLY married without a state marriage license. However, one can be LAWFULLY married without one. There is only one lawgiver/legislator and that, of course, is Yahweh (the God of the Bible), as per Isaiah 33:22 and James 4:12. Man’s edicts are invariably attempts to make legal what Yahweh has declared unlawful or illegal what Yahweh has declared lawful.

          There are pastors performing lawful weddings today by Yahweh’s authority alone.

  • http://www.facebook.com/RobertAlexander.Salvage Robert Alexander

    Matthew 16:26: For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

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