About the author: John Renken

A self proclaimed “scrapper” since childhood, John Renken grew up with a burning interest in physical challenges and a strong competitive spirit which has led him to develop quite an impressive reputation in the professional fighting community. Reaching the pinnacle of his career, Renken now has over 68 professional mixed martial arts and boxing matches under his belt and many first place titles spanning three different continents. A former Satanist, Renken’s life has taken many interesting twists and turns along the way to redemption. He now pastors a church called Freedom Church and writes about topics of interest in our country.

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  • rebart

    Nice article. I believe the evangelicals got on the list because of their intolerance and hatred toward other religions, as shown when “pastor” Jeffries spouted his ignorance against Mitt Romney. Other evangelicals are even worse. However, they are just intolerant bigots, not a threat to our country. They have a right to believe as they may as long as they don’t offend others. Evangelicals need to tone down their bigotry and things will get better in their relationship with others.

    • Ben

      Rebart if you want to see intolerance, look to your left. If you want to see ignorance, look in the mirror. What a ridiculous comment.

      • rebart

        Well, you must be an evangelical. Unfortunately for you all the evidence is against you. I can name many so-called Christian “pastors” who preach against other religions. I can show you many places online where so-called Christians have web sites and write books against other religions. I can show you books on Amazon written by evangelical preachers against people different than they. Are you telling me ‘pastor’ Jeffries and others didn’t go on TV and the news and denounce people different than he? What are you, deaf, blind, and dumb. What rock are you living under. The whole nation knows how these people act. It was wrong to put them on the extremist list, but they are religious extremists, but you have no right to offend others as you just did. You are an example of what I am talking about.

        • dskancer19

          You offend me by defending Islam as a way of controlling America. You, rebart, are the one with the head in the sand.

          • rebart

            What in the world is the matter with you, dskdancer19? I’m amazed at your stupidity. Where in the world did you get the idea that I’m defending Islam. I despise Islam, but not for religious reasons. Mitt Romney, the Mormon, and JFK the Catholic, for example, and many others of what the evangelicals call cults are the subjects evangelical persecution. Do you live in a vacuum? Do you not watch tv? Have you never heard these people talk? Have you never seen their books? Do you people really not know what your leaders are saying and doing? It is unfortunate, but these idiots at the government level identify evangelicals with paramilitary survivalist groups, and others. In some cases rightly so, but, of course, that is a wide generalization. It seems you people are not intelligent enough to understand that I thinking that this is the reason the government identifies you as extremists. I also said it was wrong. But, if you people think you are perfect you have another thought coming.

          • dskancer19

            Believing in God is not being a terrorist. Believing in a non-God and trying to invade a country based on anti-beliefs is a terrorist.. I do not live in a vacuum. I read as much info as possible. But when you put people down for a belief of God – for the goodness rather than for evil – it makes a difference. Personally I do not belong to any group or church or organization – I pray within my family – my children and grandchildren. We pray for the end of evil to all. Intelligence level? One need not be a scholar to know good from evil – right from wrong. What is happening in our “government” is wrong and evil. It is so much like the steps that {even} Hitler took to change Germany. I fear that people have been so blinded that they can no longer tell right from wrong -and follow the wrong “herd” to slaughter.

          • $39132868

            Liar. THIS is ALL what Hitelr warned against. He fought AGAINST this Eternal EVIL.

          • dskancer19

            Hitler did not want to destroy people? I’m not following you Cairan.

          • $39132868

            No. He was trying to SAVE his people from the fate endured by the Russians, whne the Bolsheviks took over, and DESTROYED Russia. The same monsters wrecking the USA, and the West, now. Learn the FACTS. Stop swallowing, and pushing the poisoned LIES.

          • dskancer19

            Geez, I am not pushing poison lies! The history of Hitler shows he killed tens of thousands of people. How can this be a “good” thing in any nation? I know our current government is setting us up for the same – and am fearful of the masses not being aware of it – due to the lack of media announcing the truth of what is REALLY going on. The people have been lulled into a false sense of – what – security??? While losing one right after another – including the right to freedom of speech…religion…guns…education…care and raising of our own children–and our medical system being controlled by non-medical persons…the list goes on endlessly. how can I be pushing lies in telling what is happening now – to us – in our country???

          • $39132868

            Adolf Hitler never killed any-one. He saw what was happening to Germany, after the monstrouus Treaty of Versailles was enacted. That was Germany’s version of Obamacare). There is so much involved in this – but it all starts with WWI, and the Balfour Declaration, and the Zionists goal to get control of Palestine. Israel. After WWI – which the USA has NO reason to enter – the Versailles Convention was created, to punish Gemrany. 80% of the attendees where Banker Jews, or factotums there-of. Why were foreign born Jews permitted to implement policies that were CREATED to CRUSH Germany? Edward House was a Rothschild’s golem.). Hitler simply attempted to spare his BELOVED Germany from the fate endured by Russia. The Communist Revolution was the Talmudic JEWISH Revolution. Zounds – almost every-one else in the world, besides Americans KNOW this.
            Lazar Kaganvich was the real ruler of Russia. His sister Rose was married to Stalin. The Jewish invasion of Russia was paid for by American born Jewish bankers like Jacob Schiff. One of Al Gore’s daughter’s recently married into that family. The “Russian” revlutionaries were all trained inthe sthetl’s of New York City. Trotsky’s real name was Lev Bronstein. Jews, from start to finish MURDERED the Russian Royal family. Christian Royalty. The Communists were and are Talmudic Jews. They proceeded to demolish Russia’s culture, religion, and population. Millions and millions and MILLIONS of Russian CHRISTIANS were murdered. Genocided. That’s where the real Holocaust of the 20th Century occurred. THEY – the Communists/Bolsheviks/JEWS started removing guns and weaponry from the general population, around 1917. 1917. Research Holomodor. Research the Katyn Forest Massacre. Jewish LIARS are trying to say that the thousands slaughtered, over a 2 day period, were Jews. They were NOT. They were the Catholic Military elite, lured into the forest, by Communists in Poland. Research Bromberg Bloody Sunday, in Poland, when Polish JEWS cheered, and aided Communist troops in the slaughter of ethnic Germans, in Poland. THAT is WHY Hitler went into Poland – he wanted to free the other ethnic Germans, from slaughter. He saw what happened, and who was doing what, when he fought in WWI. After WWI, BECAUSE of the Versailles Treaty, his fellow Germans were starving on the streets, while Jews snapped up property for pennies. Germans, you see “had” to pay unprecedented war reparations, to the Jewish bankers of England. EVERY-ONE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON. Hitler told his fellow Germans to get up off their knees. He was funded by the Rothchild’s and Warburgs, and other German Jews who wanted ot use him to frighten wealthy, cultivvated German Jews out of Germany, and into Israel. Look up the Balfour Declaration. Jews had been emancipated in Germany for centuries. They held the highest postions in society. etc. THEY WERE NEVER PERSECUTED. Hitler just wanted Zionists out of Germany. There were NEVER any plans for a “Final Solution” NEVER. Not even the worst Jewish LIARS have ever concocted ANY papers or evidence. It’s all LIES. The DEATH Camps were in Russia. By the way – when Hitler booted Jews out of banking and finance – Germany’s economy took off like a rocket. He tied money to work. You worked – you got paid. The debt slavery ended. How is America doing under the rule of Ben Shalom Bernanke, Lloyd Blanfein(s), and Jame Dimon? By the way – research Otto Frank – Annie’s Daddy – and “Opekta”. Herr Frank was a Nazi collaborator. He fled Germany cause his family’s bank were ripping off Germans. Research “Anne Frank’s ballpoint pen”.
            You can research every word I’ve written. Go ahead. I dare you.

          • dskancer19

            Good God Almighty!! Wow – I am truly amazed (not joking either). I a 60 years old now. Remembering my 6th grade teacher, a lady who was well into her 60’s then, had come from Germany years before…She was our science teacher, but on occasion spoke of German history. I did not understand her tears. She said there was so much she could tell us that we would never see in our history books. She told us so many times to never completely trust even our next door neighbor, as they may not be who we want to believe they are (our ally). She spoke about many things that we as kids did not understand, but told us things were not as we had heard. Since that time, our history books have been “cleared out” even more – leaving even bigger spaces – weaving even bigger tales – leaving more questions – of which you just answered for me.
            I have been (trying) to follow a posting of one site that tells of this “group” – the elite – bankers if you will – that have world wide “control” of countries in just this manner of which you described as happened in Germany. The same ones. What puzzles me is that if we know who they are – then why do we not try to to stop them or pull away from their control??? (It truly scares the hell out of me!!). I do not need to look up what you told me Cairan, I believe you. You filled me in on what I have been confused about for a very long time. Thank you. =)

          • sandman

            you need to calm down, look at all your – counts, and then look at all the ^ counts the others have, now like I said calm down, and take your meds!

          • rebart

            And that’s what I’m talking about. With you people no one has a right to express their opinion unless it agrees with you. Telling people to take their meds because they have an honest disagreement with the way you people treat other people is exactly what I’m talking about. My point is clearly proven. Thank you.

          • sandman

            you people? you people? no, that is what you are talking about, hatred pure unadulterated hatred, of which you on the left are filled with! with some of U.S. that call you out, and tell you what has been the correct way for thousands of yrs, that you want to trow out for no other reason than because it feels good? an when you talk about me mentioning meds, it is you and the rest of them on the left that want to med. children, instead of taking the time to love and respect them, and then when we talk about the Lord, and the rules left to man by Him, you call U.S. names like ‘Bible Thumper? no you have it all mixed up, it is you that want to keep U.S. from expressing our opinions, and no your point is not clearly proven, but clearly twisted up .

          • $39132868

            Christians don’t run America. The USA is ruled by AIPAC. The Southern Poverty Lies Center is their “think tank”. the “Federal Reserve” is the Vampyre Tribe;’s blood supply. ALL the wars Americans have been duped into serve Israel. Now – for ANY of you reading my words – before you start the spitting and hissing over my FACTS – you disprove ONE word I’ve written with genuine verifiable DATA. Cause I can NAME loads of NAMES. Snap out of it.

          • Thomas Sharp

            We are a nation based upon Christian principles, but I agree that Christians have no longer a say in the running of the USA. In fact they are targets of the tyrannical puppets in our capital.
            I don’t believe in Vampires or vampyres but agree that the Federal Reserve is supplying evil at the cost of American effort.
            You would have to be more specific on which wars we were duped into.
            I too know loads of names, but a lot of the people that belong to some of them are completely full of crap.

          • gundog1911

            Retard’s head is up his sorry azz!

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1261917960 Michael Williams

          rebart, you are clearly one of the Oboozo’s useful idiots, and if you don’t take offense to Islam and their murdering ways you are clearly part of the problem and have nothing to do with the solution…you are just spouting the liberal, progressive, communist party line! Are you a Democrat?

        • gundog1911

          Rebart you are a colossal retard! You do not even deserve a response to your babbling.

    • dntmkmecomoverther

      “They have a right to believe as they may as long as they don’t offend
      others. Evangelicals need to tone down their bigotry and things will
      get better in their relationship with others.”

      I don’t know what you’re smoking, but ‘not being offended’ does not appear in our US Constitution. Our founders offended plenty! Starting with those in the colonies who did NOT want a revolution…and continuing on to King George, and eventually any others who would deny them their God given freedoms.

      If you take offense at our God given freedoms, then so be it; but that is the source of our freedoms. Our founders knew that; Our founders believed that. And that is why our Declaration of Independence states it.

      Today, the unadulterated intolerance of leftists in this country ought to leave freedom lovers with a gaping mouth; as it is, the left is tooted as ‘great’ and ‘virtuous’ …all the way to the abortion mills. It sickens me…It ought to sicken any freedom loving patriot.

      • rebart

        Yes, those in the colonies did offend others plenty. Religious extremists have a long record of witch hunts, burning at the stake, driving others out of their colony, and putting others in jail just because they had a different understanding of the scriptures.

        I think you need a course in reading comprehension. You have not understood a thing I’ve said. My repugnance is toward treating others who have a different understanding of Christianity like Pastor Jeffries and all the others who act the way they do. Your comment has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. I despise the leftists as much as you do, but I don’t despise other religions like Pastor Jeffries, Walter Martin, Ravi Zacharias, and Bill McKeever do, and these are just a few of the hundreds of evangelicals who make a living bashing other religions. Right or wrong scripturally these people have the freedoms you are talking about. You are one mixed up person and part of the problem. You think those freedoms are only for people like you who believe what you believe. This is the kind of extremism people watch out for. This is the reason there seems to be a war on all Christianity, and people like you who are so blinded by hatred that you cannot see the difference between a Christian of another belief and a atheist leftist are causing this problem.

        You need to re-read my original comment and try to understand. There isn’t a word in their defending leftists, atheists, Islamists, or any other person. The problem I’m talking about is how evangelicals treat others, and nothing else.

        • dntmkmecomoverther

          “I need a course in reading comprehension”…really? From you?
          I doubt it. But I sure am glad you have life all figured out.

          You sound like a very angry and frustrated person. I will pray for your peace and comfort which only the Holy Spirit can supply.

    • JRJ21

      Some but not very many are repulsive.Most are correct and are enemies of the Godless communists that are trying to destroy our country from within.Obama being the chief.

      • rebart

        I am surely in favor of being enemies of communism and the like. My problem is the way evangelicals treat other bible-believing Christians. And, even if they don’t think they are Christians evangelicals should not treat non-evangelicals the way they do. After all, it’s mainly about an understanding of how the Bible was written. My father was a Baptist minister, although not really evangelical. In all the 35 years I was raised in that church I never heard him speak ill of another Christian religion. However, I did see people in the church literally turn their back on other people. I have seen them drop friendships with people who married outside their religion. Yes, I think the main problem is with the leaders–people like Pastor Jeffries, Walter Martin, and Ravi Zacharias. One horrible example is Bill McKeever who’s entire life is dedicated to bashing Mormonism. You can find all these books, and many more on places like Amazon. When someone like Bill McKeever dedicates his career and his church to bashing others then he is an extremist and people do watch out for him. He is obviously mentally off, but he is an extremist. When a religious extremist calls everyone else a cult then people are not going to like them and they are outside the main stream of society. Right or wrong they are bound to be watched closely. No one likes what is happening against the Christians in this country less than I do. I despise what this government is doing in many areas, but they will watch extremist of every kind, and people like Pastor Jeffries brought it on himself. He is not very well liked by most of America.

  • Thunderstruck

    Our nation has lost its mind.

    • sandman

      It is NOT the whole nation, but the idiots who are running it! they spend our $ like it grows on trees, and can’t seem to get enough of it! and the biggest excuse is, “it’s for the children”, which when you step back and look at it, it is true, as it will be the children that have to pay for it, in the long run! then they have no idea what the difference is between right and wrong! power has gone to their minds, no mater how much you like your rep. there must be term limits! and a limit on the power of special interests influence on our leaders! But granted there is a alarmingly large % of uninformed, or just plain old stupid voters, that have no interest in ending the gravy train!

      • Saltygi

        The Marxists-in-charge that believe in redistribution of wealth do not believe that there is any shortage of wealth. Only that it is concentrated in too few hands. So they just spend away and find any way possible to suck more lifeblood out of the economy to spend.

    • voter suppression

      this is the pc and agenda

  • Confounded

    What about the intolerence of Islam, at least we Christians don’t attempt to destroy, maim and kill any who don’t agree with us. Muslims believe they get to heaven by murdering, what a crock.

    • slickzip

      muslims are EVIL ,,,,

      • WHTEHEAT


        • Dave Phelps

          How are we going to get rid of the demoncraps and the RINOs, we can’t vote them out because of the stupid uninformed voters and voter fraud from the people that want their free stuff? I am reading “Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler” again, and it is the play book of both the demoncraps and RINOs. We are truely in the last days, and we Christions are going to be hated and persecuted until the rapture, then we will be with the Lord Jesus always, while the people that claim to be Christians but do not follow Jesus, and the unbelivers go through 7 years of hell on earth during the tribulation. Although some will be saved at that time, but most will lose their heads, and the unblievers will take the mark of the anti-christ, and be sent to hell..

          • panors77

            We can’t vote them out because of voter fraud.

          • LLinLa

            Well, Dave, I already feel like we’re all in the proverbial “hand basket” if you know what I mean and they want us to follow their path. Joke’s on them, I believe.

          • wildeagleone

            Get t list of the RINO’s that voted with the Democrats today on the Senat bill e: 2nd amendment and vot each one out (or don’t vote for them) the next time they are up for re-election. We must get rid of these lifer’s and replace them with some new blood. Face it. the new people can’t do us any more harm then the old bastardos that have switched to the Democrat side

        • Darius the Mede

          Absolutely right, there, Whiteheat. The Muslim’s are committed to either killing the “Infidels” (that’s us, by the way). No matter what the Obaminator says, I believe he is a closet Muslim and opposed to Christianity. I believe he would gladly see the church persecuted and Christians jailed, because they stand against his agenda.

        • angrypatriot

          That’s bcause many of our politicians ARE muslim, including (Moo)Barack Hussein …….

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Donald-Langlois/1131832935 Donald Langlois

        Evil is not restricted to Muslims. There are also evil men who enter into so many of the churches that proclaim Christ. Because they proclaim Christ does necessitate that they are of Christ. Only a blind eye cannot see what evil has entered into the very places that are supposed to be the house(s) of God, but are not, but are the Synagogues of Satan.

        • Vindi

          AMEN!!! Folks better wake up to what’s happening to us…..NOW!!!

    • emerutil

      Islam has had its eyes on Europe since its beginning. Now, it is targeting the entire West, as well!

    • Tired of the Double Tongues

      Wait just a moment please!! Go back and look at what Christians have done to Jews for centuries. Please don’t tell me that the christian religion hasn’t done what radical Islamists (not Muslims in general) want to do and do. I’m not saying what they are doing is correct, however..

      • Winston

        Don’t blame all Christians for their abuse of Jews and others for centuries, as it was the Roman Catholics which led that abominable action. I love my Jewish brothers and Israel…Genesis 12:3

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Donald-Langlois/1131832935 Donald Langlois

          You are a wise man, brother.

      • panors77

        I suppose you’ll say that the poor islamic moors who raided and fought to conquer Europe were misunderstood huh? And like Winston said….don’t lump all Christians together with what the Roman Catholic church did. That is what happens when you allow a church to have political power alongside monarchs. As far as “Christians doing to jews for centuries”……it’s not always Christians. Hitler and the nazi’s were NOT Christians.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Donald-Langlois/1131832935 Donald Langlois

        I think perhaps you need to do some refreshing of scriptures. If what you say is true, then you have not made a distinction between one alleges being a Christ to one who is a believer. There are differences between them. A difference as north is from south and east is from west.
        When you can recognize just who and what you have cited then I think you are on the path to actually making a discovery as to one man being a Christian and another being a believer.
        What you say is not scriptural and therefore whosoever does such things have not Christ nor Christ have them. They are enemies and bring repute and blaspheme the very name of Christ.

    • rebart

      I agree.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Donald-Langlois/1131832935 Donald Langlois

      It is not about destruction, murder, or anything else. It is about one thing and one thing only. Let me spell it out. J_E_S_U_S. The world hated him and continues to hate him and if you are his the world will hate you also.

    • John

      Which planet are you living on.

  • USAgent

    What I am Tired of is not knowing WHO, The DOD is a Govt Agency so who is to blame, These Agencies have heads and I want to know who orders or is issuing these things. Its like saying my gun killed him, the reality was someone pulled the trigger. These Extremist People we have in these agencies need to be called out and dealt with. Apologies aren’t accepted in my book.

  • sgtshel

    I hope every Army Ranger feels this way! I know my Army Ranger cousin does! (Who just got home safe from Afghanistan!)

  • Mort Leith

    So Christians are Terrorists and murdering satan-worshipping Muzlims are NOT . . . .

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Donald-Langlois/1131832935 Donald Langlois

      The world will hate you and despise you because of the name Jesus Christ. They will arrest you and persecute you on account of that name. They hated Christ, they will hate you, who are Christ’s.
      The events unfolding, are they come as a surprise. Has no man been given warning that he might not see nor witness. There will be wars and rumors of wars. This is not limited to the engagement of men on the battlefield, nor the threat of such engagements. The war of flesh and blood is nothing when compared to the war of spirits. This spiritual war is being fought with such ferocity in these days, in these times and in these seasons.
      The signs are given that each man prepare to get his own house in order. A cleaned and refreshed house will stand. But a house that remains in disarray will collapse upon itself.

    • emerutil


  • slickzip

    What else would you expect from the muslim ODUMBA , he hates christians ,,,

  • agbjr

    According to the current Obama-led cabal in Washington ANY proud native-born Constitution-abiding United States Citizen – Christian or Jew – is a terrorist.

    “Whatever makes men good Christians, makes them good citizens.”

    Daniel Webster

    • $39132868

      Jews are the ones attacking Christians. These “policies” are from the Southern Poverty Lies Center. Mark Potok ring a bell? Janet Napolitano is one of their girlchicks Jews have been attacking Christianity from the BEGINNING. .

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Donald-Langlois/1131832935 Donald Langlois

        I didn’t know Nero was a Jew.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Donald-Langlois/1131832935 Donald Langlois

        You know something. If you have a dislike for Jews, you have a dislike for Christ. Afterall, Jesus was a Jew. And all who believe in him are Jews. One man is born a Jew through Abraham and another is born a Gentile. The Gentile comes to Christ and he is grafted to the root of Jesse. The man born through Abraham, but who rejects Christ is not a Jew spiritually. It is all about the spirit, not the flesh.
        They who say they are Jews, but reject the Savior are liars.
        If you say you are a Christian, you are a Jew. Read the scriptures.

    • emerutil

      We are terrorists by definition! We are obstructing Progressive ambitions, slowing them down.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HSJULSAVFJIJYR6PCTCUPMNXRA Take 2

    Since, Obama is best example of a born anti American – Islamist converted black socialist and professed Christian. I guess WE have us a real live Terrorist in the Oval office either way.

    • rockcut

      Your comments are ignorant and hateful. Grow up!

    • panors77

      He certainly aides and abetts terrorism. BO is a communist who is using muslims to bait against Christians to destroy them and this country.

  • Tony

    They apoligized? For what? Was it a mistake? Was it something the general public wasn’t supposed to see. I didn’t see this “apology” but it means nothing. I guess Christians should be on the list becasue we stand for good and oppose the things the govt is trying to do to destroy or fundamentally change our country.

    • gerf

      What good is an unseen or heard apology , when because o f the lame stream media most of the sheep have never seen or heard either the original story or the apology !!

  • coconuisse

    I expect the order to be issued any day now by the DOD that henceforth, their official uniform will be brown, and that you WILL refer to them as “brownshirts” OR ELSE!

    • $39132868

      Screw OFF. This is what Hitler was fighting AGAINST. He predicted what would happen to the USA, in the 1930;’s:

      • coconuisse

        Ah, a typical profane remark from someone who funked history class! You must be one of those neanderthal liberals that everyone is afraid of, except those that know the truth, of course!

  • Pakinpastor

    On another site, I posted this:
    Everything you face in life, I don’t care what it is, is either good or evil. Every situation you deal with is either good or evil. If we can differentiate between them at the time will make a big difference on how things go in our lives. I am a bit older now, and have looked back on my life and I have found that the things I thought would help me have been hindrances. I pray that you are able to see the Truth in whatever you do. Because they are coming for us. And one day it will get real ugly….

  • standtallall

    It is obvious the fox is in the hen house and the use of the word “unbelievable” has been rendered null and void. I feel so much better that they apologized…after they were called on it.

  • Big Al

    to rebart……There are sincere people, who don’t believe that Jesus is the only way to Heaven. I know there’s people who sincerely believe that. But what did Jesus say? “I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but by me” (John 14:6). We’re told in Acts 4:12 that neither is there any other name under Heaven given among men whereby we must be saved. We must come into a relationship with Christ to spend eternity with Him.

    So a person can be very sincere and not believe in that objective truth. But will their sincerity keep them from experiencing the consequences of not believing in and trusting in Christ? This is where I think we need to realize that by all means we should be encouraging and tolerant (in the right sense) of people’s different viewpoints—but in the end, let’s not apologize for what Jesus actually said. We shouldn’t minimize it by saying, “Well, the important thing is that people are sincere.” Well, it is important whether or not people are sincere. But in the end, it’s also extremely important whether they are right and believe what is true.

    • rebart

      Big Al, many other religions believe in Jesus Christ. They study the Bible and accept Jesus as their personal savior. They may have a different understanding of the Bible than an evangelical, as did the people who wrote the Bible, which is why there are contradictions in the Bible. For example, one version of the Sermon on the Mount says Jesus went up the mountain. Another version says he came down the mountain. So what? The Bible was written according to the memory of the authors. Matthew tried to correct Mark. Luke wrote from interviews with people who knew Jesus. It’s all good. Not having the same understanding has nothing to do with Salvation. Doctrine sometimes gets in the way of serving the savior.

      My point is that even if one believes that others are wrong they shouldn’t shun those people. Jesus would not act like Pastor Jeffries or all the people who write books against others calling them cults like Walter Martin and Ravi Zacharias, for example. These people don’t act like Christians. I have seen Protestant people just turn away from people when they find out they are a Catholic or Mormon or Jehovah’s Witness or Unitarian, or whatever. Their behavior is repugnant. Many of these people believe in Christ. Treating them like they are trash is unacceptable. The original behavior toward JFK because he was a Catholic was the same as against Mitt Romney because he was a Mormon. People are sick of this, but the evangelical leaders don’t understand why they would be put on an extremist list. I don’t think it’s right, but I understand why, whether right or wrong.

  • $39132868

    These diktats are from data on the Southern Poverty Lies Center site. I’ve posted this before. It takes 5 minutes to find the source. Stop WHINING about this, Renken, et al. START writing about the SOURCE of the problem. Drop the Meek Lamb of God crapola; that was a once and done deal. When the Christ returns, it’s to kick serious #ss. Here’s another quote from John, that’s a lot more en pointe: John 8:38-44. THERE’S your relevant info. Al Quaida is one of THIER scams. Israel and the vermin in the “Pentagram” did 9/11/2001. Janet Napolitano is a great big FAT Marrano lesbian. Snap out of it. Everything that’s happening is about killing off Whitey,. and killing off Christians. What else would you expect from the Children of the Devil?

  • commanderus

    Why are they suprised? With the fact the higher in rank an officer goes, the more politicized he must become, and able to appease the current administration. The current administration is anti-christian, pro-muslim, pro-LGBT, pro-abortion, anti-Constitution/Bill of Rights, so our senior military must fall in line, or lose their jobs.

    • emerutil

      Actually, military personnel at all levels are affected!

  • RIck

    I don’t see this as a Muslim problem as much as I see an Anti-Christian/Conservative problem those of us who serve in the military, or cling to God and guns. We stand in the way of what the world at large wants, and don’t think its to replace religion but to eliminate it in socialist secular utopia. To those I say I’m powered by 4G God Guns Guts And Glory !!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert


  • davesjobfinder

    I am a 22 year vet. One of the reasons I felt it was time to retire was the PC bull that was getting worse every day. Now what kind of men will want to defend the country with fox holes full of homosexuals and women?

  • worldwatchman

    We ARE Christian soldiers who aren’t afraid to stand against false prophets, depraved world leaders and their people, deviant, vile lifestyles and ANY government foreign OR domestic who wants to turn our country from a Republic into a socialist country. Strong belief in the Holy Trinity and Dogs of War and make NO apologies to anyone for it. De Liber Oppresso………


    When our OWN government has more aleegience towards isalm than Christianlty? You KNOW there is a problem. ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES….



  • Mys77

    With what is going on in the world…. I think this is making it clear that Christians needs to be more committed than ever to God, and all the madness makes me even more determined to save as many as possible and to reject the world. Many Christians who were complacent are no longer that way, but fired up for God. Witnessing and being pro active and visible. We have God…. and many have nothing.

  • Aristophanes

    I was not a bit surprised when I read this crap about Christians being terrorists. It is all about getting obozo, et al agenda in place and cannot do that if there are still Christians in the mix. I will never say ANYONE, let alone obozo, is above God. And, unfortunately for obozo and his minions, there are still alot of Christians who are growing stronger in their faith because of these attacks. When the dod found out that there would be an uproar, they apologized; but, first, they had to “test the waters” to see if they would get away with it. Stay strong, Christians, it will get worse!

  • Red55bird

    They may have issued apology by saying were sorry, but this is just another step the left have taken against Christians in America, I still think many of us know that we out number these anti God people by 4-1. but we have got to stand up for God and not be the silent Christians anymore. John Renken is a true Patriot who know like many of us that we need a real correction in how our Nation is going now. From killing our unborn to Gay marriage to couples living together without marriage. This Devil administration we have in the White House now, if left uncheck will destroy a great nation, we can take it back but we need to come together as one and fight back for God and country. I ask you America if not you then who ?

  • W.Lorraine

    I am a fundamentalist. I believe that God wrote the Bible and it is true from Genesis to Revelations, using human hands. I believe that the world was made in 6 days and on the 7 day God rested from his work. I believe Jesus is the only begotten son of God and that he died on Calvary for the sins of the world. I believe that Jesus is the only road to salvation and life everlasting. I believe in a literal hell. I believe Jesus is coming back for the church soon. This is basically what I believe, and with me standing on these facts, what am I doing to harm anyone?

    • $39132868

      The Enemies of the Christ HATE the Truth. They have, from the beginning. What are YOU doing to stop them? Do remember, when He returns – He comes with a flaming sword.

  • 7papa7

    Thank you for your service to both our country and more importantly to our God. I was livid when I saw that Christians, Patriots, America lovers and Constitution lovers were considered domestic terrorists. This does make sense though because if you love these things you are a danger to a Marxist government.

  • hankster6

    Obama claims to be a Christian, however, in his heart, he is a radical Muslim. If you are not a Muslim, you are a terrorist. Our government leaders, mostly, are Godless and following Obama’s lead. If he says Christians are terrorists, that is what they are, although, he will not call radical Muslims terrorists because they are his “brothers”.
    That makes me a terrorists, in his eyes. I am very proud to be a “terrorist”. Since he is claiming to be a Christian, he is also a terrorist!!

  • gailfilerino0304

    Thank you for your service. You are a great patriot and you are still servings on the war against SATAN. What amazes me is how these leftist liberal communist label Christians when being a Christian means love and forgiveness.
    Once again we see that The Word of God is true. Truly the way and the life though Jesus ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE! What sorrow our Lord must have for those that have been lead astray by SATAN’S WORLD for He loves us all. A great Lady just passed away Margaret Thatcher who fought for FREEDOM. Hearing her speeches would apply Absolutely today. We need to stand up for Jesus and FREEDOM.

  • Joel

    Great Question from the author: “Is there enough evidence to convict you of being a Christian?” The first place to look is at your checkbook. In Matt.6:21,Jesus says “for where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.” Selah

    • http://www.facebook.com/randolph.goeman Randolph Goeman

      Isn’t it funny then that muslims come here & want to make lots of money but do not want others to do the same.

  • http://www.facebook.com/randolph.goeman Randolph Goeman

    Most Egotists look in a mirror & that is where they see the terrorists

  • http://theawakenednation.ning.com/profile/KevinMKeener Snowman8wa

    If believing in My Lord and Savior makes me a terrorist……well……..they have no idea…….A United States Marine Corps trained Christian terrorist……a new meaning to Put on the WHOLE AROMOR OF God!

    “…Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” —- ROMANS 8:35-39

    Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis

  • johnwlooper

    I am honored to be a Right-Wing Extremist Terrorist by those espousing this philosophy!

  • CaptainRZL

    Well it was only a matter of time until someone in the DOD accidentally told the truth. Oops! They hate us. Americans majority hates us. They want nothing to do with Christs values and they spend more time thinking of how to discredit and destroy us. Lord help us.

  • robertjr

    The DOD has been doing everything it can to brainwash our young soldiers to do its bidding. That could include anything from taking orders from the new world order, directly firing there wepons at American citizens, to not following their oath to protect the constitution of this country. So why would it surprise anyone that they try to attack religion. The only reason they backed off is because they received more backlash then they expected.

  • LK

    Army Ranger & Pastor Insulted That DOD Would Label Christians “Terrorists”

    No intelligent knowledge of historical nations is possible without a corresponding knowledge of their geography. The first and most important question that geography answers for us is where. Historical Geography answers both where and when ? Where is Rome located ? Where and when did the Babylonian Empire exist ?

    History not only answers the questions when and who but, in addition, gives us a consecutive account of the doings of civilized mankind in their progress toward the most valued and elevating of social and political blessing. It deals rather with the life of nations then with races of men; and its special function is to sketch the career and describe the conditions of those great nations whose ideas and institutions, or whose achievements in polities, war, literature, art and science, were remarkable in their own epoch, or, by influencing other nations, helped to make the civilized world what it is now. God Bless the U.S.A

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Aaron-Peck-Sr/100000161077324 Aaron Peck Sr.

    everyone be careful what you say? our president is an anti-Christ muslim dictator who will kill you with his drones after he disarms us.

  • MarxistTwilightZone

    The Communist Tactic of
    1-Exposing their beliefs
    2- Apologize for what was said
    3-Retract the statement.
    This is starting to happen quite frequently

  • MarxistTwilightZone

    We need to start making plans outside of the Digital world.

  • Winston

    Likewise, I am a Constitutional American Patriot, having served three years voluntarily in Korea and in the famed 11th Air Assault Division (test) which became the mighty 1 Cavalry Air Mobile in the Vietnam War. But first, I am a Bible believing Christian… not a pseudo-evangelical or denominational follwer of men as many are. I love Jesus and His Father (our Creator)and His Holy Spirit (alive even today with all spiritual gifts to those who ask). It troubles me greatly that American voters have elected a unproven by birth citizen of the U.S.A., one with a known background only as a political community activist and failed lawyer (as was his wife) with no real experience at much of anything, has sealed his college records to hide the truth about himself, applied as a “foreign exchange student” at Occidental College (CA), and is trained in the ways of Islam and attended a church of a known radical black theology preacher and in whose church he belonged to its homosexual “down low” club. Why did those voters vote him into office wrongly? It was based on racism and decades of being on government entitlements (the cradle-to-grave do nothings).

    • RacerJim

      God Bless and Thank You for your service! My father, RIP, served three years voluntarily in EUROPE during WWII in the famed 24th (“Keystone”) Infantry Division and three years voluntarily in Korea in the famed 2nd (“Indian Head”) Infantry Division — he was among the first American troops into Pusan and was awarded the Bronze Star Medal w/V for action during the break-out from Pusan.

      I agree 100% with everything you said about the Marxist Muslim usurper in OUR White House.

      32nd ARADCOM, 1964-1968
      Vietnam Veteran

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-H-Polson/1359382777 Stephen H. Polson

    It falls right in like with the feelings of the POTUS. He calls a Major who guns down our own soldiers on US soil a domestic violence case and Christians who comprise most of America Terrorist. He is on the wrong side. Get busy kick him our then pu t him in jail then hang him as the traitor he is. Amnyone who lthinks it can’t happen here is blind it is already under way.

  • zamoco

    Lists of terrorists…lets see. Federal government, FBI, CIA, Secret Service, IRS, EPA,TSA, Homeland Security, Police, Local Governments, BATF, any one see a trend here? Shall I continue?

  • http://www.facebook.com/james.rhodes.562 James Rhodes

    DOD is about as dumb and brainless as they come. This is for the top brass in DOD I doubt seriously that ALL of DOD are of this opinion. I worked for DOD for over 4 years and each day brought on at least one new inane surpreise. I don’t blame the Ranger and the pastor for objecting to such leftist language. The only thing wrong with the objection is that DOD doesn’t have the brains to comprehend the REAL meaning of the objection!

  • philoprof

    As a 22 + year veteran of the military and a Christian I am also upset with the ideas the government puts out.

  • cookie

    My name is David Batchelder, my nick name is Alabama Dave, because I recently moved to Alabama. If I could show you a way or do a short you tube video. Would you people spread it around. I know how to beat these bastards. Do you not feel the urgency from the gov, trying to speed things up. Why is that. They are out of time. The currency you and I use is about to loose its standing in the world. So they have to dis arm us before that is public knowledge.

    Go to my email, construction.batch@yahoo.com. This will be a very quick and to the point, then I can give up dates. But the key, The amount of people that send me info. Let say you had a chance to be on googles board, make all the money, get rules passed because you yielded so much clout. How about youtube. The middle class is the strongest, not the rich not the poor.

    Go look up Protocols of the learned Elders of Zion. By Marsden. Read that all the way. You will be getting sick by the end. Look at section XX number 39. That will tell you the story. Be prepared to be sickened. May Jesus bless us and strengthen us in all that we must do. Amen.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Donald-Langlois/1131832935 Donald Langlois

    We can place blame on anything and everything. But here is the whole problem and it can be laid at the feet of them who failed. And all this begins with the churches.
    If the churches, beginning with the leaders, then the parents we would not have come to this. We have failed to teach and instruct the youth within the churches. Teach them godly principals and give them not only godly instruction, but raise them up for leadership of the nation, states, county’s and municipalities.
    It is the churches that have transgressed, fallen away from the truth and discarded the commands of God and established our own. What have we come to. The body is no better than the head. If the head be corrupt then the body also be corrupt.
    The churches have accepted what God declared an abomination. We have women who hold leadership with churches and congregations. Clearly against the command of the scriptures. We have church leaders who are homosexual, who will not repent and who bring judgment against the church and to them who will not flee before this ungodliness.
    We are more than fools when we do not do what is right and just and think God will accept and forgive such things. But God will bring both his wrath and his judgment against the fool who profanes his name.
    We can blame all our problems on every politician, but it is we who stand to blame. If we did according to that which is right we not have began a pathway to slavery. Because when all is said and done a man will either turn himself over to a slave of the system, or he will suffer for rejecting it.
    Don’t be fooled nor misguided, God is even now pouring out a bowl of wrath upon this nation. Slowly but surely it is being poured out that God might gain our attention so that we should turn from our wickedness. But we will not do this. We will continue to feel the increasing the of the pouring out of wrath until there is no return.
    Want to point fingers. Begin with the houses of worship. They belong not to God, but to the one who rules this world. There is no denomination that has exempted itself as they all have fallen.

  • jimzandensky

    I feel like I’m in good, safe company.

  • John

    Obviously the pastor doesn’t read the violent threats that are written daily on this site.

  • Brooklynresident

    I really wonder why we don’t hear about a congressional inquiry. Why the silence? If ANYTHING merits “getting to the bottom of this” and finding out “who is responsible,” this does-this is it. Contact your congressmen, get them to act!

  • Zombee

    When was the last time we were proud of our government? Love my country ,ashamed of my government !

  • Ken

    I me,myself,again I want to know when is it going to be time for good moral people to say enough? Are we ever going to stand? Or are we all going to cower in the corner of a dimly lit room. Just wondering

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