When Does Teaching End and Indoctrination Begin?

Hitlerjungen mit Auszeichnungenby Charles Gruenwald
Clash Daily Guest Contributor

Compared to recent examples of indoctrination in public schools, I really have no reason to complain about teachers trying to pass their personal political opinions off to me as fact. Recently, fifteen year-old Benji Backer wrote a very detailed account of personal experiences where teachers personally attacked him for his conservative beliefs. Thanks to our rather new ability to bypass the traditional media, stories such as Benji’s are now surfacing.

As a student – especially in grade school, it could be hard to distinguish between indoctrination and teaching. However, moving from grade school, to junior high, and then on to high school and college, the ability to identify a teacher’s political beliefs should become easier. Unfortunately, trying to confront a teacher with a socialist philosophy in the classroom could prove to be a difficult task, since that teacher, instructor or professor could use their ability to control their students’ grades – and ultimately their GPAs to maintain control of their message.

In sixth grade, I had a social studies class that started just before eleven A.M. Central time. A few days before Ronald Reagan’s first inauguration, someone had asked our social studies teacher if we were going to watch the inauguration in class. With an abrupt “no” and no explanation why we were not going to watch a part of American history in a social studies class, it seemed as though our teacher was perhaps not a fan of Ronald Reagan.

In my first high school, the teachers rarely blatantly mixed politics and education – to the best of my knowledge. The only example of politics being discussed outside of a history class that comes to mind is a science teacher who talked about a high school trip to Moscow.

During the last trip, a student had been arrested for asking a pharmacist for an aspirin at a drug store. If I remember correctly, aspirin was considered a controlled substance in the Soviet Union. As a result of the arrest, Russian authorities asked the school officials to not return to Russia. During the course of this discussion, the teacher talked about Soviet politics, especially their fondness of revising history. He used athletes as an example. According to the Soviets, they were the best at everything. If an athlete won a gold medal in the Olympics, he or she had nothing to worry about – they were treated as national heroes. However, anything less than first place, and that athlete would be purged from history; any past news accounts where he or she had been mentioned would be “updated”. Oh, and that athlete would disappear as well. This type of criticism of communist practices may be a rarity in other public school classrooms.

My high school closed at the end of my junior year, so I spent my senior year at a smaller school in a semi-rural town.
During a history class, a teacher at this other school discussed the political spectrum – the one with communists at the liberal end, and Nazis at the conservative end. Of course, he never mentioned that Nazis were socialists.

It was during this lecture that he told us how we were “supposed” to vote. He told us that since most of us were Jewish or Christian, lower or middle class, we were supposed to vote for Democrats. He also said that, although we may want to vote for Republicans, the Democrats represented us.

If only I knew then what I know now, I could’ve had some spirited discussions with that teacher. But then again, I may have also had to repeat that class.

As for present-day Democrats representing me, there is a big philosophical difference between that party and my religion which nullifies such a statement.

My grandmother was an old school Catholic – she believed that we were put on this Earth to suffer. From Al Gore and other high-profile politicians, to Michael Moore and a big part of the entertainment industry, the elitist environmentalist philosophy is that everyone should suffer – except me. If you could afford to buy carbon credits, then you are privileged to plant the biggest carbon footprint on nature’s backside that your private jet could churn out. In all fairness, there were Republicans who voted for the cap and tax on carbon dioxide emissions, such as then-Representative Mark Kirk from Illinois.

About the author: Chuck Gruenwald

Born in Chicago and raised in northwest suburban Cook County, Chuck Gruenwald developed an unfavorable opinion of machine politics quite early in life. In addition to cars, electronics, law enforcement, and politics, Chuck enjoys writing, and is also a horse racing fan. He has recently written op-eds for uncommonshow.com

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  • Light_V_Dark

    It happened in 1968 @ their own convention. The Useful-Idiots scored a coup. NOW, THEY ARE DHIMWITS.

    Dhim·wit (dïm-wît) – A non-Muslim member of a free society who unwittingly abets the stated cause of Islamic domination. A dhimwit is always quick to extend sympathy to the very enemy that would take away his or her own freedom (or life) if given the opportunity.
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    http://downloadpolitics.com/entry.php?199-Woe-unto-them-that-call-evil-good-and-good-evil-Isaiah-5-20
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    Leftist Gaytheists LOATHE AMERICA, MORE THAN MUSLIMS DO.

    Right Wing Atheists, hate Jews, Christians and ####ERS.
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    http://www.thenewamerican.com/reviews/opinion/item/12503-how-atheist-schools-create-depression
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    Thoughts about suicide or dying. But that’s what the schools teach. They teach about death and dying. Children write their own obituaries in school. They are told there is no God and that life is purposeless. If a child is taught that his or her life is no more significant than a cat’s or dog’s life, that will make one feel pretty worthless.

    Atheist schools even destroy the joy of Christmas by banning any mention of Christmas in the holiday season. The students are supposed to celebrate the “Winter Solstice,” which is probably what the worshippers at the Stonehenge celebrated.

    • Light_V_Dark

      Leftist_God_Haters have been hyperventilating and shrieking for SO LONG NOW, IF THEY EVER SHUT UP FOR TEN SECONDS, I’M PRETTY SURE THE SHOCK WOULD KILL MOST OF US. Especially since the LIE OF ROE—{Meaning···Femarxist-Ghouls, are so bloodthirsty, that I believe nothing less than a Sodom/Gomorrah-Like-PUNISHMENT, will turn them into HUMAN BEINGS, AGAIN—LUNATIC-GAYS, AS WELL).

      From the above link;

      Thus, the purpose of death education is to “desensitize” children to death — to remove or reduce that reasonable, rational, and useful antipathy toward death that helps us preserve our lives. It is when children begin to see death as “friendly” and nonthreatening that they begin to be drawn into death’s orbit and lured to self-destruction. It’s a phenomenon that might be called “death seduction,” in which an individual is drawn irresistibly into a fascination and then obsession with death. The individual begins to disdain life and love death.

  • Dan S.

    We were warned in the Bible of these things. No, it may not be mentioned word for word but it is in there. The beginning of the end. The end of life and the earth as we know it.

    • stonemike

      You and I probably agree totally on the fight coming against ‘left wing” global socialism, but unfortunately evoking the BIBLE only clouds and confuses ! What we need is to physically remove progressives from ALL AMERICAN GOVT , that takes guns and violence since the ‘ballot box’ is no longer a legitimate option! I am AGNOSTIC, but believe most religion is good for humanity, but after all I’m sure all the JEWS who entered the oven were praying , but armed resistance to ‘dictatorial govt” in earlier times would have at least given them a chance! By the way, do you not see the similarities in what the BLACK INTERLOPER is now forcing on Americans?

  • stonemike

    INDOCTRINATION STARTS the minute any ideology is allowed to be taught that is Anti-American! Allowing the teaching of anti-american, anti-democratic, anti-capitalist, or anti- Constitutional C R A P in our schools is NOT OPEN MINDED and good for the United States, it is SUICIDAL, there is a difference you know! Only idiotic left wingers think we should outlaw guns, but open up our children to ALL KINDS of violent, repressive ‘ism’s’ in the classroom!

  • $12994363

    Having had some experience with the Public School system I can answer that question. The first day the kid walks in the door. I can also add that it doesn’t end after they leave for good, because that’s when the media take it over.

  • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

    Have been saying this for years, now people might wake up? LOL, the teachers union teachers are propagandist for the left wing brown shirt Nazi’s, a real bunch of brain washed idiots who education is what does Hitler’s wants, we would and did vote for him and want to spread his evil propaganda on to your children who will raise their right hands to their new god in the White House.

  • $12994363

    Having some experience along the line I would have to say, unequivocally, that the education ends the day a child walks into a public school. It is then the indoctrination begins and doesn’t let up.

  • LeSellers

    Anyone who believes that government-run, tax-funded welfare schools were ever about anything other than indoctrination is woefully ignorant of their history.

    Horace Mann imported them from Prussia in 1852. His stated purpose was to divorce children from their parents’ values, especially their religious values. Forty years later, John Dewey said, “What can they do in their one hour a week of Sunday School when we have their children six hours a day the rest of the week?”

    The German inventors of grtf-welfare schools openly said that the purpose of “education” was to mold lumps of human clay into the form the state desired.

    In the late XIX, the Reverend R.L. Dabney warned Christians that the same tool they were using then to make “good li’l Americans” out of Irish Catholic children and to destroy the “Mormon” Church would, one day, be used against their own children. It took less than a century for him to be demonstrated correct in his assessment.

    No parent, Christian, Muslim, atheist, Hindu or any other religion or non-religion, no parent who loves his child can justify sending him to a grtf-welfare school. The “education” may be “free”, but the cost is too high: the cost is the child.

    Mr. O’bama, will there ever be any Jobs?

  • msueh

    “If only I knew then what I know now, I could’ve had some spirited discussions with that teacher. But then again, I may have also had to repeat that class.”

    Been there, done that. The only way I got out of some classes with my brain intact was to parrot back what had been pushed, prefacing “my” (really, the prof’s) statements with “According to …”

  • msueh

    “If only I knew then what I know now, I could’ve had some spirited discussions with that teacher. But then again, I may have also had to repeat that class.”

    Been there, done that. The only way I got out of some classes with my brain intact was to parrot back what had been pushed, prefacing “my” (really, the prof’s) statements with “According to …”

  • msueh

    “If only I knew then what I know now, I could’ve had some spirited discussions with that teacher. But then again, I may have also had to repeat that class.”

    Been there, done that. The only way I got out of some classes with my brain intact was to parrot back what had been pushed, prefacing “my” (really, the prof’s) statements with “According to …”

  • msueh

    “If only I knew then what I know now, I could’ve had some spirited discussions with that teacher. But then again, I may have also had to repeat that class.”

    Been there, done that. The only way I got out of some classes with my brain intact was to parrot back what had been pushed, prefacing “my” (really, the prof’s) statements with “According to …”

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