IT’S OFFICIAL: Howard Dean Agrees with Sarah Palin, ObamaCare Sucks

There is more proof that the ObamaCare ‘death panels’ are alive and well. The former head of the Democratic Party, who also happens to be a medical doctor, is sounding the alarm. In a Wall Street Journal opinion piece, Howard Dean calls out a “major problem” with the health care law, known as the Independent Payment Advisory Board. Sarah Palin, who warned against death panels in 2010, reacted on Tuesday night’s Hannity.

Sean Hannity broke down why this is important. First, a high-profile Democrat and one-time medical doctor is admitting that this board is a “health care rationing body.” Second, he pointed out that Dean is acknowledging that IPAB has the authority to “stop certain treatments.”

Finally, Hannity said it serves as another frightening reminder that the American people were misled by the president and other Democrats, including Dean, about ObamaCare. President Obama stated in 2009, “Every credible person who has looked into it has said there are no so-called death panels – an offensive notion to me and to the American people. These are phony claims meant to divide us.”

Palin said she hasn’t read Dean’s op-ed because she wasted too much time listening to “liberal pundits” a few years ago when they slammed her claim as “the biggest lie of the year.”

The former Alaska governor said ObamaCare will be a “burden” on small businesses and will result in the single-payer system. “Not only does it strip away our freedoms as Americans, but ObamaCare will bankrupt so many businesses and it will continue to add to the bankruptcy of our nation.”

She called on fiscal conservatives to de-fund ObamaCare. “If you’re going to go down, at least go down swingin’. Don’t vacillate and capitulate to give to Obama and the media thinking that they’re going come around and like you after all for being on their side.”

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  • Marge

    Amazing for Dean to be honest about this.

    • oldgoatee

      A stopped clock is right twice a day.

      • Keith Luxton

        Apt comment

    • oldgoatee

      A stopped clock is right twice a day.

  • Thomas Sharp

    Surely the liberal media will now apologize to Mrs. Palin for all the nastiness they hurled at her….. NOT.
    Interesting thing about Truth, it doesn’t change.

  • Thomas Sharp

    Surely the liberal media will now apologize to Mrs. Palin for all the nastiness they hurled at her….. NOT.
    Interesting thing about Truth, it doesn’t change.

  • Thomas Sharp

    Surely the liberal media will now apologize to Mrs. Palin for all the nastiness they hurled at her….. NOT.
    Interesting thing about Truth, it doesn’t change.

  • JoeBlake

    Sarah called it from day one! But dont expect a mad dash by the Left Wing to pat her on the back.

    • revgay

      I believed he then and know it’s true today

    • revgay

      I believed he then and know it’s true today

    • revgay

      I believed he then and know it’s true today

  • JoeBlake

    Sarah called it from day one! But dont expect a mad dash by the Left Wing to pat her on the back.

  • JoeBlake

    Sarah called it from day one! But dont expect a mad dash by the Left Wing to pat her on the back.

  • Dominic De Falco

    “but ObamaCare will bankrupt so many businesses and it will continue to add to the bankruptcy of our nation.”

    She did not mention the fact that ObamaCare will also bankrupt the middle class. If anyone has read ObamaCare, they would know that!

    • JoeBlake

      Most small businesses are owned by the middle class..

      • Dominic De Falco

        True, but she said: “bankrupt so many businesses”. She did not say anything about “small businesses”! She needs to watch her words and clarify them completely before she speaks. The lack of doing this the last time around is what crushed her!

      • Dominic De Falco

        True, but she said: “bankrupt so many businesses”. She did not say anything about “small businesses”! She needs to watch her words and clarify them completely before she speaks. The lack of doing this the last time around is what crushed her!

    • JoeBlake

      Most small businesses are owned by the middle class..

    • jb80538

      many businesses have already made the decision to close their doors because of obamacare. It will simply be too expensive for them to remain profitable.

      • Dominic De Falco

        I have already had to close mine!

      • Dominic De Falco

        I have already had to close mine!

      • Dominic De Falco

        I have already had to close mine!

        • Steve Brody

          OMG, why? The Obumercare mandate for business that was to take effect Jan. 2014, has now been put off till Jan. 2015. Which means there will be no financial effect on business until that time, as that is when they will have to provide medical insurance to all full time employees, and only if they have over 50 employees. So for god sake why would you close your business now with nothing changing for you until 2015? Is there some other part of Obumercare that effects a business of over 50 employees now?? Please let me know as this is the first I have heard of this happening.

          • Badwolf

            Obumercare mandate that has been put off is only for corporations not small businesses. We only had 12 employees.

          • Badwolf

            Obumercare mandate that has been put off is only for corporations not small businesses. We only had 12 employees.

          • Dominic De Falco

            Thank you, I forgot to mention that in my reply above!
            Also, I only had 3 employees but was growing steadily until 2011 when the new taxes went into effect. I was still struggling to succeed then got targeted by the IRS in January for what I believe was because of some very touchy Facebook private chats between me and a friend. Facebook warned me then shut my account down and within 30 days I was hit by the IRS for my 2011 taxes! Two CPA’s have verified that the taxes are correct but the IRS is not letting up. I decided to close the business since I lost $18,900 in 2011 and am still being forced to pay thousands more. Not worth the trouble any longer!

          • Badwolf

            You are welcome.

          • Badwolf

            You are welcome.

          • Badwolf

            Obumercare mandate that has been put off is only for corporations not small businesses. We only had 12 employees.

          • Dominic De Falco

            It is very complicated and too hard to explain on here. If you have not read ObamaCare and/or you are not an auction seller or internet seller making over 20 thou a year, you would not know what is going on. It is not just Nonprofits that are being targeted by the IRS, small businesses are also. We owners are just not big enough news to be heard. It all has to do with the Internet tax, control and take over in the very quiet backroom deal between Obama and Amazon.com. ObamaCare was connected to the IRS for a specific reason, add that to the 2010 auction sellers tax, the backdoor deal with Amazon for control over internet sales and Obama has less than 3 more years to wipe out 120 million very small online sellers to complete his deal with Amazon and get everything in place. This is not only about taxes, it is about control of businesses and the relation of those business owners to Obamacare. Do some research on the key things I said and you will figure out what I am talking about!

          • Steve Brody

            I am very sorry to hear this. I was only speaking about the mandate on medical insurance, which only effects any business that has at least 50 employees or more. But yes there are a codre of insain taxes in Obumercare! On business & on issues that have nothing to do with healthcare.. The internet tax is one of the most malicious taxes I have ever seen. They could have had business just pay the tax for the state where the item was sold, instead a business now has to learn the tax system for all 50 states & charge accordingley, INSAIN!!
            And you are right on the money, this is all about government control.

          • Steve Brody

            I am very sorry to hear this. I was only speaking about the mandate on medical insurance, which only effects any business that has at least 50 employees or more. But yes there are a codre of insain taxes in Obumercare! On business & on issues that have nothing to do with healthcare.. The internet tax is one of the most malicious taxes I have ever seen. They could have had business just pay the tax for the state where the item was sold, instead a business now has to learn the tax system for all 50 states & charge accordingley, INSAIN!!
            And you are right on the money, this is all about government control.

          • Steve Brody

            I am very sorry to hear this. I was only speaking about the mandate on medical insurance, which only effects any business that has at least 50 employees or more. But yes there are a codre of insain taxes in Obumercare! On business & on issues that have nothing to do with healthcare.. The internet tax is one of the most malicious taxes I have ever seen. They could have had business just pay the tax for the state where the item was sold, instead a business now has to learn the tax system for all 50 states & charge accordingley, INSAIN!!
            And you are right on the money, this is all about government control.

          • Dominic De Falco

            It is very complicated and too hard to explain on here. If you have not read ObamaCare and/or you are not an auction seller or internet seller making over 20 thou a year, you would not know what is going on. It is not just Nonprofits that are being targeted by the IRS, small businesses are also. We owners are just not big enough news to be heard. It all has to do with the Internet tax, control and take over in the very quiet backroom deal between Obama and Amazon.com. ObamaCare was connected to the IRS for a specific reason, add that to the 2010 auction sellers tax, the backdoor deal with Amazon for control over internet sales and Obama has less than 3 more years to wipe out 120 million very small online sellers to complete his deal with Amazon and get everything in place. This is not only about taxes, it is about control of businesses and the relation of those business owners to Obamacare. Do some research on the key things I said and you will figure out what I am talking about!

        • Steve Brody

          OMG, why? The Obumercare mandate for business that was to take effect Jan. 2014, has now been put off till Jan. 2015. Which means there will be no financial effect on business until that time, as that is when they will have to provide medical insurance to all full time employees, and only if they have over 50 employees. So for god sake why would you close your business now with nothing changing for you until 2015? Is there some other part of Obumercare that effects a business of over 50 employees now?? Please let me know as this is the first I have heard of this happening.

    • jb80538

      many businesses have already made the decision to close their doors because of obamacare. It will simply be too expensive for them to remain profitable.

    • jb80538

      many businesses have already made the decision to close their doors because of obamacare. It will simply be too expensive for them to remain profitable.

    • wandamurline

      And it will be traumatic to the elderly of this nation…but then, kill off the elderly and save money, i.e. social security checks and medicare insurance. the dumb@zz generation that is now graduating from college do not have the intelligence needed to see what is going on….they are all plugged into their iphones or on facebook….they cannot see what is happening here. They should study Austria in the late 1930’s when they decided and voted to allow Hitler to run their country….he was a snake oil salesman also…his tongue knew no truth either.

      • Oren Player

        Sorry wandamurline, the topic of unrevised history is no longer taught in the public (state) schools and certainly not in the liberal cesspools known as colleges and universities.

      • Oren Player

        Sorry wandamurline, the topic of unrevised history is no longer taught in the public (state) schools and certainly not in the liberal cesspools known as colleges and universities.

      • Oren Player

        Sorry wandamurline, the topic of unrevised history is no longer taught in the public (state) schools and certainly not in the liberal cesspools known as colleges and universities.

      • tinkerunique

        After the Boston bombing, college students were signing petitions to ban pressure cookers. Only 3 students knew what a pressure cooker was and refused to sign, because their grandmothers “did wonderful things” with her pressure cooker.

      • tinkerunique

        After the Boston bombing, college students were signing petitions to ban pressure cookers. Only 3 students knew what a pressure cooker was and refused to sign, because their grandmothers “did wonderful things” with her pressure cooker.

    • wandamurline

      And it will be traumatic to the elderly of this nation…but then, kill off the elderly and save money, i.e. social security checks and medicare insurance. the dumb@zz generation that is now graduating from college do not have the intelligence needed to see what is going on….they are all plugged into their iphones or on facebook….they cannot see what is happening here. They should study Austria in the late 1930’s when they decided and voted to allow Hitler to run their country….he was a snake oil salesman also…his tongue knew no truth either.

    • wandamurline

      And it will be traumatic to the elderly of this nation…but then, kill off the elderly and save money, i.e. social security checks and medicare insurance. the dumb@zz generation that is now graduating from college do not have the intelligence needed to see what is going on….they are all plugged into their iphones or on facebook….they cannot see what is happening here. They should study Austria in the late 1930’s when they decided and voted to allow Hitler to run their country….he was a snake oil salesman also…his tongue knew no truth either.

  • Dominic De Falco

    “but ObamaCare will bankrupt so many businesses and it will continue to add to the bankruptcy of our nation.”

    She did not mention the fact that ObamaCare will also bankrupt the middle class. If anyone has read ObamaCare, they would know that!

  • coastx

    Even with all the negative and truthful discredit of this legislation, Obama’s rating is still riding at 47% supported by the American public. How is this possible? Because 47% of those surveyed are charismatics. They don’t think. They feel. Obama is a Pied Piper. America the mentality of children who have no sense of direction of their own to avoid him. He’s a snake charmer lending itself to the notion that Americans thus easily led by him are debauched, and they are. Obama himself said the American public is stupid. He’s correct. YOU ARE STUPID AMERICA. He knows it and has said as much. YOU know it, because you are following him compulsively off the planet. You follow him, because it feels good for the moment. Obamaphony, Idiots. He isn’t even a legally seated president. Party, fools!

    • pearl87

      It’s all smoke and mirrors, there is no support for Obama. People simply don’t care to express their intense feeling of disenfranchisement since it will have no impact on a politicians who are out of control. It simply doesn’t matter anymore what the American people have to say because the United States of America no longer exists. It has been replaced before our eyes by a despotic, socialist state.

      • coastx

        Long as Americas first three priorities are fast food, sex/abortion and entertainment, yes. America took the bait and is currently in a limbic frenzy unable to be free of these circumstances. Change this and we SYG: however, people will NOT let go of their addictions to do this. Crowley rules in the land of fools. VNRI frees us, but people don’t want this. They want a Big Mac, box of chocolate flavored condoms and the latest Hollywood release instead. This is too disgusting to even think about.

        • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

          coastx, perhaps you should be writing for ClashDaily.com

        • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

          coastx, perhaps you should be writing for ClashDaily.com

      • Keith Luxton

        You could have hit the heart of the problem. We read all about his crooked ways and all the crimes has committed against the USA. Yet he appears to be supported by both the demoncrap and a high percentage of the crooked repugnican politicians. It is starting to look like a revolution by the people is required to get rid of our totally corrupt legislature. The problem is modern folks are not cut out for action. They are used to letting the politicos run the show.

      • Keith Luxton

        You could have hit the heart of the problem. We read all about his crooked ways and all the crimes has committed against the USA. Yet he appears to be supported by both the demoncrap and a high percentage of the crooked repugnican politicians. It is starting to look like a revolution by the people is required to get rid of our totally corrupt legislature. The problem is modern folks are not cut out for action. They are used to letting the politicos run the show.

      • Keith Luxton

        You could have hit the heart of the problem. We read all about his crooked ways and all the crimes has committed against the USA. Yet he appears to be supported by both the demoncrap and a high percentage of the crooked repugnican politicians. It is starting to look like a revolution by the people is required to get rid of our totally corrupt legislature. The problem is modern folks are not cut out for action. They are used to letting the politicos run the show.

    • pearl87

      It’s all smoke and mirrors, there is no support for Obama. People simply don’t care to express their intense feeling of disenfranchisement since it will have no impact on a politicians who are out of control. It simply doesn’t matter anymore what the American people have to say because the United States of America no longer exists. It has been replaced before our eyes by a despotic, socialist state.

    • noweareman

      It’s the 47% Romney was taking about!

    • noweareman

      It’s the 47% Romney was taking about!

    • noweareman

      It’s the 47% Romney was taking about!

    • GQ4U

      Nearly 47% of U.S. adults did not vote for POTUS in 2012. 20% of adults are on government subsidies. Between the apathy and the greedy freedom is lost.

      Obama is definitely a usurper and no one in power will acknowledge it; not even conservative like Cruz, Lee, Paul, Rubio, Issa, Boehner, Ryan or…

    • GQ4U

      Nearly 47% of U.S. adults did not vote for POTUS in 2012. 20% of adults are on government subsidies. Between the apathy and the greedy freedom is lost.

      Obama is definitely a usurper and no one in power will acknowledge it; not even conservative like Cruz, Lee, Paul, Rubio, Issa, Boehner, Ryan or…

    • GQ4U

      Nearly 47% of U.S. adults did not vote for POTUS in 2012. 20% of adults are on government subsidies. Between the apathy and the greedy freedom is lost.

      Obama is definitely a usurper and no one in power will acknowledge it; not even conservative like Cruz, Lee, Paul, Rubio, Issa, Boehner, Ryan or…

    • TAM44

      I don’t believe the polls as it’s only the DEMONCRATS are polled, we are giving the shaft. obama should be below congress in the approval rating,. obama is all evil, and there are some conservatives in congress.

    • TAM44

      I don’t believe the polls as it’s only the DEMONCRATS are polled, we are giving the shaft. obama should be below congress in the approval rating,. obama is all evil, and there are some conservatives in congress.

  • coastx

    Even with all the negative and truthful discredit of this legislation, Obama’s rating is still riding at 47% supported by the American public. How is this possible? Because 47% of those surveyed are charismatics. They don’t think. They feel. Obama is a Pied Piper. America the mentality of children who have no sense of direction of their own to avoid him. He’s a snake charmer lending itself to the notion that Americans thus easily led by him are debauched, and they are. Obama himself said the American public is stupid. He’s correct. YOU ARE STUPID AMERICA. He knows it and has said as much. YOU know it, because you are following him compulsively off the planet. You follow him, because it feels good for the moment. Obamaphony, Idiots. He isn’t even a legally seated president. Party, fools!

  • downs1

    Is Howard Dean emerging from his coma? Obama is in office because Dean didn’t do his job and truly vet that fraud! I voted for Sarah once, and would do it again in a heartbeat! The reason the “lame stream media” tried so hard to assassinate her character is because she is smart; she is intellectually and morally honest; she is tough; she loves America and sees its potential; she is no lapdog politician, but is a Stateswoman; she is a mom and is very organized and practical! Oh yeah, and she is a Christian! I hope she runs against Hillary. That is, if there is a 2016 election!? If Congress doesn’t get off its inept, impotent ass and do its job, Obama may actually be dictator by then. And guess what his first act will be: to round up all the strong people on the opposition and “remove” them as did Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro and others! It’s the “satanic” way! Take 5 to think about that!

  • Keith Luxton

    Big Deal, So now we know Obama is an outright liar in addition to being an illegitimate president and possibly not even American born. We have known that since the first time the Ovomit opened his mouth in politics. What we do not know is when are the authorities going to arrest him instead of running round chasing people who are exposing his regime as the most crooked ever seen in America

  • Keith Luxton

    Big Deal, So now we know Obama is an outright liar in addition to being an illegitimate president and possibly not even American born. We have known that since the first time the Ovomit opened his mouth in politics. What we do not know is when are the authorities going to arrest him instead of running round chasing people who are exposing his regime as the most crooked ever seen in America

  • Keith Luxton

    Big Deal, So now we know Obama is an outright liar in addition to being an illegitimate president and possibly not even American born. We have known that since the first time the Ovomit opened his mouth in politics. What we do not know is when are the authorities going to arrest him instead of running round chasing people who are exposing his regime as the most crooked ever seen in America

  • 4lifeandfreedom

    So, “who is smarter than a fifth grader?” or anyone who voted for and is still supporting Obama? why, Sarah Palin, who called this in 2010! And, all of us conservatives who knew that the Affordable Care Act(non-affordable Obama-non-care act) should not be passed!

  • 4lifeandfreedom

    So, “who is smarter than a fifth grader?” or anyone who voted for and is still supporting Obama? why, Sarah Palin, who called this in 2010! And, all of us conservatives who knew that the Affordable Care Act(non-affordable Obama-non-care act) should not be passed!

  • 4lifeandfreedom

    So, “who is smarter than a fifth grader?” or anyone who voted for and is still supporting Obama? why, Sarah Palin, who called this in 2010! And, all of us conservatives who knew that the Affordable Care Act(non-affordable Obama-non-care act) should not be passed!

  • jwn0001

    Pied Piper of the Philipines

  • jwn0001

    Pied Piper of the Philipines

  • PatCindyCunningham

    Howard Dean is a Man without a Party. He has been ostracised by the Liberal Democratic base, and has no where to go. He is bitter and now blasting Democrats. It is kind of refreshing seeing one of the miscreant former leader of the Democratic Party turn on his own but, he is just a wounded Animal. Nothing to see here.

  • PatCindyCunningham

    Howard Dean is a Man without a Party. He has been ostracised by the Liberal Democratic base, and has no where to go. He is bitter and now blasting Democrats. It is kind of refreshing seeing one of the miscreant former leader of the Democratic Party turn on his own but, he is just a wounded Animal. Nothing to see here.

  • PatCindyCunningham

    Howard Dean is a Man without a Party. He has been ostracised by the Liberal Democratic base, and has no where to go. He is bitter and now blasting Democrats. It is kind of refreshing seeing one of the miscreant former leader of the Democratic Party turn on his own but, he is just a wounded Animal. Nothing to see here.

  • victorbarney

    TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE HOWARD! AS WRITTEN BOTH IN REVELATION, CHAPTERS 7 & 11, “WE THE PEOPLE”(ANGLO-SAXONS ONLY) GET PUNISHED FIRST, MOST LIKELY BEGINNING THIS COMING OCTOBER 5TH, 2013 & LASTING 3 1/2 YEARS! WATCH, BUT ONLY IF YOU’RE ALLOWED!!!

  • victorbarney

    TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE HOWARD! AS WRITTEN BOTH IN REVELATION, CHAPTERS 7 & 11, “WE THE PEOPLE”(ANGLO-SAXONS ONLY) GET PUNISHED FIRST, MOST LIKELY BEGINNING THIS COMING OCTOBER 5TH, 2013 & LASTING 3 1/2 YEARS! WATCH, BUT ONLY IF YOU’RE ALLOWED!!!

  • victorbarney

    TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE HOWARD! AS WRITTEN BOTH IN REVELATION, CHAPTERS 7 & 11, “WE THE PEOPLE”(ANGLO-SAXONS ONLY) GET PUNISHED FIRST, MOST LIKELY BEGINNING THIS COMING OCTOBER 5TH, 2013 & LASTING 3 1/2 YEARS! WATCH, BUT ONLY IF YOU’RE ALLOWED!!!

  • GinoV

    Obamacare and the whole administration also sucks, it’s time to pull their heads out of their BUTTS and start to do whats right for America

  • COMMANDER58

    From day one before Obamacare was enacted I told people that the bill would lead to rationed care and long delays in receiving treatment. Almost everyone I tried to warn told me I was nuts and the bill would give free health care when you needed it..
    People are starting to realize that healthcare is a scarce resource meaning there isn’t enough to care for everybody so you end up in a line where a beauracrat will decide what kind of care you are entitled to receive and should you die before a doctor can see you,. who cares. Some may think that Obama is brilliant for giving us this program but mark my words that when they find treatment as perscribed by your doctor is rejected for their spouse or children they will change their mind and curse Obama for reducing the care they would have received under the old plans.
    Facts are to make healthcare equal for the population you take from those who can afford cadillac plans and give to those who could only afford Yugo plans. Doctors who violate the provisions are subject to a $100,000 fine for each occurance. This is why good doctors are leaving the medical field or refusing to treat patients under Medicade or Medicare only.
    Anything the Obama Administration says cannot be belived. Death panels were a part of the plan from day one. Our seniors are now expendible and considered no value to the new modern society that sees the world through Obama stained glassses.

  • COMMANDER58

    From day one before Obamacare was enacted I told people that the bill would lead to rationed care and long delays in receiving treatment. Almost everyone I tried to warn told me I was nuts and the bill would give free health care when you needed it..
    People are starting to realize that healthcare is a scarce resource meaning there isn’t enough to care for everybody so you end up in a line where a beauracrat will decide what kind of care you are entitled to receive and should you die before a doctor can see you,. who cares. Some may think that Obama is brilliant for giving us this program but mark my words that when they find treatment as perscribed by your doctor is rejected for their spouse or children they will change their mind and curse Obama for reducing the care they would have received under the old plans.
    Facts are to make healthcare equal for the population you take from those who can afford cadillac plans and give to those who could only afford Yugo plans. Doctors who violate the provisions are subject to a $100,000 fine for each occurance. This is why good doctors are leaving the medical field or refusing to treat patients under Medicade or Medicare only.
    Anything the Obama Administration says cannot be belived. Death panels were a part of the plan from day one. Our seniors are now expendible and considered no value to the new modern society that sees the world through Obama stained glassses.

  • COMMANDER58

    From day one before Obamacare was enacted I told people that the bill would lead to rationed care and long delays in receiving treatment. Almost everyone I tried to warn told me I was nuts and the bill would give free health care when you needed it..
    People are starting to realize that healthcare is a scarce resource meaning there isn’t enough to care for everybody so you end up in a line where a beauracrat will decide what kind of care you are entitled to receive and should you die before a doctor can see you,. who cares. Some may think that Obama is brilliant for giving us this program but mark my words that when they find treatment as perscribed by your doctor is rejected for their spouse or children they will change their mind and curse Obama for reducing the care they would have received under the old plans.
    Facts are to make healthcare equal for the population you take from those who can afford cadillac plans and give to those who could only afford Yugo plans. Doctors who violate the provisions are subject to a $100,000 fine for each occurance. This is why good doctors are leaving the medical field or refusing to treat patients under Medicade or Medicare only.
    Anything the Obama Administration says cannot be belived. Death panels were a part of the plan from day one. Our seniors are now expendible and considered no value to the new modern society that sees the world through Obama stained glassses.

  • Azsteve53

    The Independent Payment Advisory Board is unconstitutional. A law suit has been filed by the Goldwater institute to stop it. If the law suit succeeds and the law suit is a clear cut winner. the very heart of Obama care will be killed.

    http://goldwaterinstitute.org/article/coons-v-geithner-federal-health-care-lawsuit

    • BobM

      Since when has Obama cared about the Constitution? He controls the courts so this is a lost cause.

      • Azsteve53

        BobM:

        I strongly disagree. If what you say is true, why bother posting comments? Why discuss anything if we are incapable of change? I think the courts are not controlled by Obama, in fact far from it, the Goldwater attorneys are dealing with the most liberal court, the 9th circuit in America.

        If your analogy is correct, why would the Institute waste literally hundreds of thousands of dollars and thousands of man hours if it was a lost cause to begin with?

        They filed this suit because there is a strong chance it will prevail, perhaps we should applaud the effort, and help where we can instead of surrendering.

      • Azsteve53

        BobM:

        I strongly disagree. If what you say is true, why bother posting comments? Why discuss anything if we are incapable of change? I think the courts are not controlled by Obama, in fact far from it, the Goldwater attorneys are dealing with the most liberal court, the 9th circuit in America.

        If your analogy is correct, why would the Institute waste literally hundreds of thousands of dollars and thousands of man hours if it was a lost cause to begin with?

        They filed this suit because there is a strong chance it will prevail, perhaps we should applaud the effort, and help where we can instead of surrendering.

      • Azsteve53

        BobM:

        I strongly disagree. If what you say is true, why bother posting comments? Why discuss anything if we are incapable of change? I think the courts are not controlled by Obama, in fact far from it, the Goldwater attorneys are dealing with the most liberal court, the 9th circuit in America.

        If your analogy is correct, why would the Institute waste literally hundreds of thousands of dollars and thousands of man hours if it was a lost cause to begin with?

        They filed this suit because there is a strong chance it will prevail, perhaps we should applaud the effort, and help where we can instead of surrendering.

    • BobM

      Since when has Obama cared about the Constitution? He controls the courts so this is a lost cause.

    • BobM

      Since when has Obama cared about the Constitution? He controls the courts so this is a lost cause.

  • Azsteve53

    The Independent Payment Advisory Board is unconstitutional. A law suit has been filed by the Goldwater institute to stop it. If the law suit succeeds and the law suit is a clear cut winner. the very heart of Obama care will be killed.

    http://goldwaterinstitute.org/article/coons-v-geithner-federal-health-care-lawsuit

  • CharlieFromMass

    If you were still looking for proof positive that this is a bad idea done poorly, this should be it.

    Anytime the far-left and the far-right, along with a broad swath of the not-so-far left and right and the center agree that something is bad, then it probably is.

    Repeal and impeach- in either order.

  • CharlieFromMass

    If you were still looking for proof positive that this is a bad idea done poorly, this should be it.

    Anytime the far-left and the far-right, along with a broad swath of the not-so-far left and right and the center agree that something is bad, then it probably is.

    Repeal and impeach- in either order.

  • CharlieFromMass

    If you were still looking for proof positive that this is a bad idea done poorly, this should be it.

    Anytime the far-left and the far-right, along with a broad swath of the not-so-far left and right and the center agree that something is bad, then it probably is.

    Repeal and impeach- in either order.

  • SniperToo

    Have you ever notice that when a conservative, intelligent women (who can talk in front of a mass audience, without q. cards or a prompt screen) is right but she is told to shut up and sit down. Michele Baughman has been treated the same way’ when she received a copy of the Muslim Brotherhood “The Project” from a raid in France in a Muslim terrorist apt. The traitor McCain told her to shut up and sit down. Bauchman is leaving Congress because she can’t stand the lies and cover up. Hope Palin can take over and run with her convictions.

  • DrZarkov99

    The damage may already be irreversible. We already have a doctor shortage, and adding 34 million new patients to the system isn’t going to do anything but make that become a nightmare, greatly increasing the waiting time for appointments and treatment.

    I’ve already spoken to a number of specialists who are deciding to retire from practice. Their reasons involve the difficulty with what they see as an impossible burden from an ever-increasing regulatory and paperwork requirement, and how difficult it’s going to be to cover costs within the ever-shrinking margin of government payment schedules.

    Many doctors are closing their private practice and going to work for hospitals, to eliminate the overhead of maintaining an office. Instead of the huge surge in healthcare jobs claimed by supporters of Obamacare, it will likely result in a reduction in force to keep costs down.

    The shift in care from doctors to nurses and physicians assistants will only accelerate. It’s going to be a rare occasion that a patient actually gets to speak to a doctor.

  • DrZarkov99

    The damage may already be irreversible. We already have a doctor shortage, and adding 34 million new patients to the system isn’t going to do anything but make that become a nightmare, greatly increasing the waiting time for appointments and treatment.

    I’ve already spoken to a number of specialists who are deciding to retire from practice. Their reasons involve the difficulty with what they see as an impossible burden from an ever-increasing regulatory and paperwork requirement, and how difficult it’s going to be to cover costs within the ever-shrinking margin of government payment schedules.

    Many doctors are closing their private practice and going to work for hospitals, to eliminate the overhead of maintaining an office. Instead of the huge surge in healthcare jobs claimed by supporters of Obamacare, it will likely result in a reduction in force to keep costs down.

    The shift in care from doctors to nurses and physicians assistants will only accelerate. It’s going to be a rare occasion that a patient actually gets to speak to a doctor.

  • DrZarkov99

    The damage may already be irreversible. We already have a doctor shortage, and adding 34 million new patients to the system isn’t going to do anything but make that become a nightmare, greatly increasing the waiting time for appointments and treatment.

    I’ve already spoken to a number of specialists who are deciding to retire from practice. Their reasons involve the difficulty with what they see as an impossible burden from an ever-increasing regulatory and paperwork requirement, and how difficult it’s going to be to cover costs within the ever-shrinking margin of government payment schedules.

    Many doctors are closing their private practice and going to work for hospitals, to eliminate the overhead of maintaining an office. Instead of the huge surge in healthcare jobs claimed by supporters of Obamacare, it will likely result in a reduction in force to keep costs down.

    The shift in care from doctors to nurses and physicians assistants will only accelerate. It’s going to be a rare occasion that a patient actually gets to speak to a doctor.

  • labman57

    Palin’s ignorant “death panel” rant was in reference to the optional “living will” consultation that was to be funded under the ACA.

    ALL health coverage providers assess cost vs. need. Suggesting that this is unique to the ACA and that it is a contrived means of preventing certain types of medical treatments from being provided is simply more fear-mongering hyperbole from an ideological group that lacks a compelling argument based on reality.

    The closest example that you will find to a true death panel would be the bean counters in the private health insurance industry who deny coverage for potentially life-saving treatments under the guise that these expensive procedures are “experimental”.

  • labman57

    Palin’s ignorant “death panel” rant was in reference to the optional “living will” consultation that was to be funded under the ACA.

    ALL health coverage providers assess cost vs. need. Suggesting that this is unique to the ACA and that it is a contrived means of preventing certain types of medical treatments from being provided is simply more fear-mongering hyperbole from an ideological group that lacks a compelling argument based on reality.

    The closest example that you will find to a true death panel would be the bean counters in the private health insurance industry who deny coverage for potentially life-saving treatments under the guise that these expensive procedures are “experimental”.

  • labman57

    Palin’s ignorant “death panel” rant was in reference to the optional “living will” consultation that was to be funded under the ACA.

    ALL health coverage providers assess cost vs. need. Suggesting that this is unique to the ACA and that it is a contrived means of preventing certain types of medical treatments from being provided is simply more fear-mongering hyperbole from an ideological group that lacks a compelling argument based on reality.

    The closest example that you will find to a true death panel would be the bean counters in the private health insurance industry who deny coverage for potentially life-saving treatments under the guise that these expensive procedures are “experimental”.

  • Stealth

    I ran into a women in her late 60’s who was my cashier at the supermarket, who ‘lamented’ how ‘bad’ everything is today… The economy, no jobs etc.. I told her, ‘People get what they VOTE for’ and she right away started blaming ‘everything’ on BUSH! I cut her off and stated, ‘You’re one of those liberal nincompoops who still don’t get that Obama is CREATING this mess- then campaigning AGAINST the mess ( he created ) and the only president I’m aware of who by the end of their 2nd year in office ( was STILL blaming his predecessor! ) I then asked her what she thought of the mess OUR state ( the liberal-disease brained state of Ct ) is in- ( we’re the MOST in debt per Capita, most OVERTAXED stupid stinking state! ) & she replied…”Oh…not so good”, so I asked her if she voted for our ASSININE, Democrat/Liberal- Obama-Bot Governor and she replied ‘yes’… “And you’ll no doubt vote for him again! ” I said as I disgustedly walked away… I’m in my late 50’s and it occurs to me that the majority of women baby boomers are LIBERAL morons who have in fact been the main cause of this B.S.! And you wimp guys who ‘go along’ so as not to have to sleep on the couch disgust me! When I realized my ( now soon to be ‘ex’ wife ) supported the liberal agenda- I KICKED HER THE HELL OUT of MY bed- and am now DIVORCING her!!

  • Stealth

    I ran into a women in her late 60’s who was my cashier at the supermarket, who ‘lamented’ how ‘bad’ everything is today… The economy, no jobs etc.. I told her, ‘People get what they VOTE for’ and she right away started blaming ‘everything’ on BUSH! I cut her off and stated, ‘You’re one of those liberal nincompoops who still don’t get that Obama is CREATING this mess- then campaigning AGAINST the mess ( he created ) and the only president I’m aware of who by the end of their 2nd year in office ( was STILL blaming his predecessor! ) I then asked her what she thought of the mess OUR state ( the liberal-disease brained state of Ct ) is in- ( we’re the MOST in debt per Capita, most OVERTAXED stupid stinking state! ) & she replied…”Oh…not so good”, so I asked her if she voted for our ASSININE, Democrat/Liberal- Obama-Bot Governor and she replied ‘yes’… “And you’ll no doubt vote for him again! ” I said as I disgustedly walked away… I’m in my late 50’s and it occurs to me that the majority of women baby boomers are LIBERAL morons who have in fact been the main cause of this B.S.! And you wimp guys who ‘go along’ so as not to have to sleep on the couch disgust me! When I realized my ( now soon to be ‘ex’ wife ) supported the liberal agenda- I KICKED HER THE HELL OUT of MY bed- and am now DIVORCING her!!

  • Stealth

    I ran into a women in her late 60’s who was my cashier at the supermarket, who ‘lamented’ how ‘bad’ everything is today… The economy, no jobs etc.. I told her, ‘People get what they VOTE for’ and she right away started blaming ‘everything’ on BUSH! I cut her off and stated, ‘You’re one of those liberal nincompoops who still don’t get that Obama is CREATING this mess- then campaigning AGAINST the mess ( he created ) and the only president I’m aware of who by the end of their 2nd year in office ( was STILL blaming his predecessor! ) I then asked her what she thought of the mess OUR state ( the liberal-disease brained state of Ct ) is in- ( we’re the MOST in debt per Capita, most OVERTAXED stupid stinking state! ) & she replied…”Oh…not so good”, so I asked her if she voted for our ASSININE, Democrat/Liberal- Obama-Bot Governor and she replied ‘yes’… “And you’ll no doubt vote for him again! ” I said as I disgustedly walked away… I’m in my late 50’s and it occurs to me that the majority of women baby boomers are LIBERAL morons who have in fact been the main cause of this B.S.! And you wimp guys who ‘go along’ so as not to have to sleep on the couch disgust me! When I realized my ( now soon to be ‘ex’ wife ) supported the liberal agenda- I KICKED HER THE HELL OUT of MY bed- and am now DIVORCING her!!

  • SIRWIZARD

    Welcome to the land of, “DUH”, Mr. Dean.

  • AMERICAN ADVOCATE

    >>> WHISKEY ~ TANGO ~ FOXTROT <<< OBAMA SUCKS ~ REALLY .

  • AMERICAN ADVOCATE

    >>> WHISKEY ~ TANGO ~ FOXTROT <<< OBAMA SUCKS ~ REALLY .

  • Jessica Sanchez

    You people are amazing. Do ANY of you have any brains? Can any of you think on your own? Obamacare explicitly prohibits IPAB from “submitting proposals that would ration care, increase taxes, change Medicare benefits or eligibility, increase beneficiary premiums and cost-sharing requirements, or reduce low-income subsidies under Part D.”
    .
    Dean was speaking as a lobbyist for health care companies. Now the intellectually lazy on the right will take this spin and run. Do you dolts realize Medicaid and Medicare and all health insurance companies ALEADY put limits on coverage? Wow, what a bunch of lemmings.

    • Mutt

      Now THAT’S funny – an Obamite, after watching his performance for 5 years, yet still refusing to look at the truth, is accusing others of not having any brains.

    • Mutt

      Now THAT’S funny – an Obamite, after watching his performance for 5 years, yet still refusing to look at the truth, is accusing others of not having any brains.

    • tmunson15

      tamatoe… tomato….. anyway you libs want to spin it…. obamacare still sucks

    • tmunson15

      tamatoe… tomato….. anyway you libs want to spin it…. obamacare still sucks

      • Jessica Sanchez

        Typical Tea Bagger-ish reply when your lies are smacked down with facts. Even that idiot liar Paul Ryan admitted he was going to give in and help his constitutents enrol in the Affordable Health Care Act. Why? Because it works!

        • tmunson15

          lol….. I hope you don’t kiss your family with that mouth… . you are a classic example of someone that is totally clueless, finds a computer and starts typing….pray tell…. since obamacare hasn’t even been implemented yet.. how do you know it “works”?…. perhaps since you know it all.. how about 6 numbers for lotto

      • Jessica Sanchez

        Typical Tea Bagger-ish reply when your lies are smacked down with facts. Even that idiot liar Paul Ryan admitted he was going to give in and help his constitutents enrol in the Affordable Health Care Act. Why? Because it works!

  • Jessica Sanchez

    You people are amazing. Do ANY of you have any brains? Can any of you think on your own? Obamacare explicitly prohibits IPAB from “submitting proposals that would ration care, increase taxes, change Medicare benefits or eligibility, increase beneficiary premiums and cost-sharing requirements, or reduce low-income subsidies under Part D.”
    .
    Dean was speaking as a lobbyist for health care companies. Now the intellectually lazy on the right will take this spin and run. Do you dolts realize Medicaid and Medicare and all health insurance companies ALEADY put limits on coverage? Wow, what a bunch of lemmings.

  • Jessica Sanchez

    You people are amazing. Do ANY of you have any brains? Can any of you think on your own? Obamacare explicitly prohibits IPAB from “submitting proposals that would ration care, increase taxes, change Medicare benefits or eligibility, increase beneficiary premiums and cost-sharing requirements, or reduce low-income subsidies under Part D.”
    .
    Dean was speaking as a lobbyist for health care companies. Now the intellectually lazy on the right will take this spin and run. Do you dolts realize Medicaid and Medicare and all health insurance companies ALEADY put limits on coverage? Wow, what a bunch of lemmings.

  • http://www.monster-island.net/ kushibo

    How is this different from the death panels that exist now in the form of private health insurance companies?

  • Janice Foster

    This is the way that dictators reign! What is next? Americans we need to see that this is stopped….stop Obamacare NOW!

  • Janice Foster

    This is the way that dictators reign! What is next? Americans we need to see that this is stopped….stop Obamacare NOW!

  • Janice Foster

    With the Embassy Closings we are being threatened and Obama will never call to stop the whole thing…”birds of a feather flock together” and he is not going to stop the
    terrorists! He needs their help to dictate to Americans using fear to control us.

  • Janice Foster

    With the Embassy Closings we are being threatened and Obama will never call to stop the whole thing…”birds of a feather flock together” and he is not going to stop the
    terrorists! He needs their help to dictate to Americans using fear to control us.

  • Janice Foster

    With the Embassy Closings we are being threatened and Obama will never call to stop the whole thing…”birds of a feather flock together” and he is not going to stop the
    terrorists! He needs their help to dictate to Americans using fear to control us.

  • Janice Foster

    Benghazi attack was the beginning of Obama takeover control of this Country and Hilary Clinton and others are guilty too! Impeach Obama and never allow Hilary in the
    Office since she is backing him and we will go through the same or worse than we are
    doing now!

  • Janice Foster

    Benghazi attack was the beginning of Obama takeover control of this Country and Hilary Clinton and others are guilty too! Impeach Obama and never allow Hilary in the
    Office since she is backing him and we will go through the same or worse than we are
    doing now!

  • Janice Foster

    Benghazi attack was the beginning of Obama takeover control of this Country and Hilary Clinton and others are guilty too! Impeach Obama and never allow Hilary in the
    Office since she is backing him and we will go through the same or worse than we are
    doing now!

  • Robert

    Dr. Hansen Mengala has been found he is the US surgeon general. Appointed be Obummer.

  • Robert

    Dr. Hansen Mengala has been found he is the US surgeon general. Appointed be Obummer.

  • WASP

    Does anybody care what Coward Dean thinks. He’ll hang with the other fascist-democraps when The War starts.

  • WASP

    Does anybody care what Coward Dean thinks. He’ll hang with the other fascist-democraps when The War starts.

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