About the author: Donald Joy

Following his service in the United State Air Force, Donald Joy earned a bachelor of science in business administration from SUNY while serving in the army national guard. As a special deputy U.S. marshal, Don was on the protection detail for Attorney General John Ashcroft following the attacks of 9/11. He lives in the D.C. suburbs of Northern Virginia with his wife and son.

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  • http://113tidbits.com/ tony greene

    Commentary dead on center. This trial was a farce from the very beginning. The defense should simply rest after the mom’s testimony.

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      Thanks, Tony.

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      Thanks, Tony.

      • http://nyctalking.com/ Angel Rodriguez

        Agree. They are just going through the motions to appease the masses. Who’s ready for the riots?

        • The Truth

          If this would have been a Black man shooting a white man It would not have made the news period.

          • bodica

            Two attempts on my life by black and hispanic supporters of obama in NY – those and the murder of a friend and a friend’s son probably, as in 99.9%, instigated by the local co-ordinator for the Board of Elections, a Charles Rangel protegee. NYPD stopped crime in progress both times, but no investigation allowed, no Report Number provided, no redress, no Victim’s Services (injuries much improved but still affecting fine motor skills) – private NYS lawyers deliberately sabotaged filing of ‘notice of intent to sue’ all afraid of harassment by New York State, the official employer of the homicidal mob.

            I’m white, female and the only outed Conservative Pro Lifer on ‘Alinsky’ Island, NY – snapshot: ‘I understand Hitler’s Germany better since I moved to this island,’ (local Protestant minister, RIP) ‘alinsky’ Island was the staging ground for the nwo ‘obama plan’ and a move on.org stronghold.

          • bodica

            Two attempts on my life by black and hispanic supporters of obama in NY – those and the murder of a friend and a friend’s son probably, as in 99.9%, instigated by the local co-ordinator for the Board of Elections, a Charles Rangel protegee. NYPD stopped crime in progress both times, but no investigation allowed, no Report Number provided, no redress, no Victim’s Services (injuries much improved but still affecting fine motor skills) – private NYS lawyers deliberately sabotaged filing of ‘notice of intent to sue’ all afraid of harassment by New York State, the official employer of the homicidal mob.

            I’m white, female and the only outed Conservative Pro Lifer on ‘Alinsky’ Island, NY – snapshot: ‘I understand Hitler’s Germany better since I moved to this island,’ (local Protestant minister, RIP) ‘alinsky’ Island was the staging ground for the nwo ‘obama plan’ and a move on.org stronghold.

          • bodica

            Two attempts on my life by black and hispanic supporters of obama in NY – those and the murder of a friend and a friend’s son probably, as in 99.9%, instigated by the local co-ordinator for the Board of Elections, a Charles Rangel protegee. NYPD stopped crime in progress both times, but no investigation allowed, no Report Number provided, no redress, no Victim’s Services (injuries much improved but still affecting fine motor skills) – private NYS lawyers deliberately sabotaged filing of ‘notice of intent to sue’ all afraid of harassment by New York State, the official employer of the homicidal mob.

            I’m white, female and the only outed Conservative Pro Lifer on ‘Alinsky’ Island, NY – snapshot: ‘I understand Hitler’s Germany better since I moved to this island,’ (local Protestant minister, RIP) ‘alinsky’ Island was the staging ground for the nwo ‘obama plan’ and a move on.org stronghold.

          • http://nyctalking.com/ Angel Rodriguez

            That’s racist.

          • http://nyctalking.com/ Angel Rodriguez

            That’s racist.

        • The Truth

          If this would have been a Black man shooting a white man It would not have made the news period.

      • http://nyctalking.com/ Angel Rodriguez

        Agree. They are just going through the motions to appease the masses. Who’s ready for the riots?

      • DrSique

        Well said. The only thing missing is WHY the media made this case a “stand your ground” issue, instead of classic selfdefense. My take is that, after they got done crucifying Zimmerman, they wanted to attack and undo the stand your ground law. In true liberal reactionary fashion, they would get rid of something that could save hundreds of lives over the perceived injustice of one case, unintended consequences be damned. Ya’ know, baby and bath water metaphor.

        • http://113tidbits.com/ tony greene

          Stand your ground won’t be touched by this case. NRA is too strong in Florida.

        • http://113tidbits.com/ tony greene

          Stand your ground won’t be touched by this case. NRA is too strong in Florida.

        • http://113tidbits.com/ tony greene

          Stand your ground won’t be touched by this case. NRA is too strong in Florida.

    • jim

      Should have locked you up during 9-11 with the rest of them, how come you’re not in cairo?

      • thismustend

        Shouldn’t you be out on a ledge somewhere?
        Crawl back to the KOS, brain dead troll, you are CLEARLY out of your league.

        • jim

          Lame lol sickening you’re probably some pervert pedophile like zimmerman

          • Matt

            still!

          • USMC 69-75

            Again Jim….you are?

          • USMC 69-75

            Again Jim….you are?

          • neilshog

            Pedophile? Got some facts to back that up?…no, didn’t think so.

          • mac12sam12

            YUP!! You’re a liberal. Throw it against the wall and see if it sticks.

          • mac12sam12

            YUP!! You’re a liberal. Throw it against the wall and see if it sticks.

        • jim

          Lame lol sickening you’re probably some pervert pedophile like zimmerman

      • thismustend

        Shouldn’t you be out on a ledge somewhere?
        Crawl back to the KOS, brain dead troll, you are CLEARLY out of your league.

      • thismustend

        Shouldn’t you be out on a ledge somewhere?
        Crawl back to the KOS, brain dead troll, you are CLEARLY out of your league.

      • nollster

        Todd, is that you? Where have you been? We all miss your insane comments!

        • texas57

          or janet, or larry…..i fogot about todd, he has been gone for a while.

          • bodica

            Medusa – one head, many snakes!

          • bodica

            Medusa – one head, many snakes!

        • David Taylor

          He’s back. I wonder if he’ll be a Communist this time, or maybe a reformed skin-head claiming he knows we’re all closet KKKs.

        • David Taylor

          He’s back. I wonder if he’ll be a Communist this time, or maybe a reformed skin-head claiming he knows we’re all closet KKKs.

        • David Taylor

          He’s back. I wonder if he’ll be a Communist this time, or maybe a reformed skin-head claiming he knows we’re all closet KKKs.

      • nollster

        Todd, is that you? Where have you been? We all miss your insane comments!

      • nollster

        Todd, is that you? Where have you been? We all miss your insane comments!

      • Johnbraavo

        You’re an idiot Jim. But you already know this don’t you?

      • Johnbraavo

        You’re an idiot Jim. But you already know this don’t you?

      • Johnbraavo

        You’re an idiot Jim. But you already know this don’t you?

      • Matt

        nobody STILL agrees with you…do you feel lonely or looney?

      • SuperDave2

        Jim, If you’ve received your education at the hands of Public Schools, no one can blame you for being an idiot. We can, however, fault your family for not locking you away in the attic. Go get a life, and an education while you’re at it.

      • SuperDave2

        Jim, If you’ve received your education at the hands of Public Schools, no one can blame you for being an idiot. We can, however, fault your family for not locking you away in the attic. Go get a life, and an education while you’re at it.

      • SuperDave2

        Jim, If you’ve received your education at the hands of Public Schools, no one can blame you for being an idiot. We can, however, fault your family for not locking you away in the attic. Go get a life, and an education while you’re at it.

    • jim

      Should have locked you up during 9-11 with the rest of them, how come you’re not in cairo?

    • jim

      Should have locked you up during 9-11 with the rest of them, how come you’re not in cairo?

    • Ray from Bloombergia

      This is NOT L.A. or Chiraq. This is FLAWDA and they have half a million CCW carriers and I believe Class III licensing. TRY IT Sharpton, PLEASE!!!!!

      Ray from Bloombergia
      NRA Life

    • Ray from Bloombergia

      This is NOT L.A. or Chiraq. This is FLAWDA and they have half a million CCW carriers and I believe Class III licensing. TRY IT Sharpton, PLEASE!!!!!

      Ray from Bloombergia
      NRA Life

      • http://113tidbits.com/ tony greene

        Stay up Ray! Bloomers will be probably replaced by weiner, unfortunately.

      • http://113tidbits.com/ tony greene

        Stay up Ray! Bloomers will be probably replaced by weiner, unfortunately.

      • http://113tidbits.com/ tony greene

        Stay up Ray! Bloomers will be probably replaced by weiner, unfortunately.

    • Ray from Bloombergia

      This is NOT L.A. or Chiraq. This is FLAWDA and they have half a million CCW carriers and I believe Class III licensing. TRY IT Sharpton, PLEASE!!!!!

      Ray from Bloombergia
      NRA Life

    • WHTEHEAT

      rest???? they should drop dead

    • WHTEHEAT

      rest???? they should drop dead

    • WHTEHEAT

      rest???? they should drop dead

  • http://113tidbits.com/ tony greene

    Commentary dead on center. This trial was a farce from the very beginning. The defense should simply rest after the mom’s testimony.

  • Jodi G.

    If I were Z, when I’m found not guilty, I would immediately file a Malicious Prosecution suit against all involved parties.

    • redwolf6911

      I agree with you.

    • redwolf6911

      I agree with you.

    • redwolf6911

      I agree with you.

    • jonmonde

      And keep his Kel-Tec PF9 handy!

    • jonmonde

      And keep his Kel-Tec PF9 handy!

    • jonmonde

      And keep his Kel-Tec PF9 handy!

    • A. G. T. Jr.

      Please toss in the two malicious katzenjammer reverends, JJackson & ASSharpton.

      • jim

        You’re ignorant, as most most of you are just because you can be and nobody will shoot you for it.

        • $18476877

          Ignorant? Hypothetical situation. If say a George Zimmerman type should irritate you or me, or say a more common road rage happens and you get angry. Should you A. Control yourself, or B. Start throwing punches, and threatening to kill the MFer, all the while bashing his head into the sidewalk? And low and behold, you get shot? Right or wrong, your bleeding out. Perhaps a violent reaction was the wrong decision? Who’s ignorant here? Once again, right or wrong, if you attack an armed citizen, there’s a pretty fair chance your going to get shot, I’d shot. There’s allot of people getting shot around where I live. Detroit, Flint, Pontiac. Barely makes the news. Violence begets violence, but that’s just ignorance talking.

          • granny

            Tell em’!!!!!! Jim is a scuzbag but then we expect remarks like that from a liberal commie. Ignorance is his game,

          • granny

            Tell em’!!!!!! Jim is a scuzbag but then we expect remarks like that from a liberal commie. Ignorance is his game,

          • granny

            Tell em’!!!!!! Jim is a scuzbag but then we expect remarks like that from a liberal commie. Ignorance is his game,

          • lamar

            I am a male nurse and If you follow me home, and get your car with a gun, I will fight for my life, Not hope that this creepy guy will not going to shoot me or come in my house and kill my family. if, I die,I die, but he will not be follow any more kids home. I am Proud of Treyvon.

          • $18476877

            I wonder if Treyvon didn’t react with violence. foul language and likely racial epithets. But instead, sided with Zimmerman, agreeing that there is a considerable number of break-ins, rapes and looting in their community, That he understands why Zimmerman would be suspicious of a fellow seeming to be casing properties for an opportunistic robbery.This scenario would have gone different?

          • $18476877

            I wonder if Treyvon didn’t react with violence. foul language and likely racial epithets. But instead, sided with Zimmerman, agreeing that there is a considerable number of break-ins, rapes and looting in their community, That he understands why Zimmerman would be suspicious of a fellow seeming to be casing properties for an opportunistic robbery.This scenario would have gone different?

          • $18476877

            I wonder if Treyvon didn’t react with violence. foul language and likely racial epithets. But instead, sided with Zimmerman, agreeing that there is a considerable number of break-ins, rapes and looting in their community, That he understands why Zimmerman would be suspicious of a fellow seeming to be casing properties for an opportunistic robbery.This scenario would have gone different?

          • USMC and America proud

            Only one thing wrong with your point! (Well more than one, but we’ll just keep it to one) Martin’s “followers”, such as yourself, just keep wanting to portray him as ‘the kid who just stopped at a convenience store for some candy and stuff, and was on his way home, when this “cracker” killed him”! Totally ignored by you people, is the fact that had he actually DONE JUST THAT, the kid would still be alive today!
            What do I mean? Look at the area maps! Martin was in a place he did not belong, a ‘gated’ community! Had he chose to take his ‘proper’ route home, he would not have gone this way! But instead he chose to trespass into a protected area that maintains a crime-watch volunteer staff of owners! A gated community can do even more than this! They can have their own armed guards in uniform, check points, and arrest authority! Either way, for Martin to be IN the community, means he chose to ‘break in’ to it! He did NOT live inside this community, or GZ would have known him and his family! Gated communities do not have open streets to the public! They have walls around them! People who choose to subvert these walls, are automatically trespassers, and can be arrested and charged! The fact that the community chose to have a ‘neighborhood watch’ instead of an armed force in uniform makes no difference, a trespasser is being watched and reported! Again GZ was doing his job! He was on the phone to the police, and reported the gated community had been breached! Martin clearly attacked him, not by GZ’s “say-so”, but by the evidence presented! GZ, as a representative of said community, also had the right to detain the trespassing offender until the police arrived and charge him as such!
            This incident was clealy Martins fault for being inside an area illegally, and being aggressive! Lesson to teach your kids? Stay out of places you don’t belong!

          • USMC and America proud

            Only one thing wrong with your point! (Well more than one, but we’ll just keep it to one) Martin’s “followers”, such as yourself, just keep wanting to portray him as ‘the kid who just stopped at a convenience store for some candy and stuff, and was on his way home, when this “cracker” killed him”! Totally ignored by you people, is the fact that had he actually DONE JUST THAT, the kid would still be alive today!
            What do I mean? Look at the area maps! Martin was in a place he did not belong, a ‘gated’ community! Had he chose to take his ‘proper’ route home, he would not have gone this way! But instead he chose to trespass into a protected area that maintains a crime-watch volunteer staff of owners! A gated community can do even more than this! They can have their own armed guards in uniform, check points, and arrest authority! Either way, for Martin to be IN the community, means he chose to ‘break in’ to it! He did NOT live inside this community, or GZ would have known him and his family! Gated communities do not have open streets to the public! They have walls around them! People who choose to subvert these walls, are automatically trespassers, and can be arrested and charged! The fact that the community chose to have a ‘neighborhood watch’ instead of an armed force in uniform makes no difference, a trespasser is being watched and reported! Again GZ was doing his job! He was on the phone to the police, and reported the gated community had been breached! Martin clearly attacked him, not by GZ’s “say-so”, but by the evidence presented! GZ, as a representative of said community, also had the right to detain the trespassing offender until the police arrived and charge him as such!
            This incident was clealy Martins fault for being inside an area illegally, and being aggressive! Lesson to teach your kids? Stay out of places you don’t belong!

          • USMC and America proud

            Only one thing wrong with your point! (Well more than one, but we’ll just keep it to one) Martin’s “followers”, such as yourself, just keep wanting to portray him as ‘the kid who just stopped at a convenience store for some candy and stuff, and was on his way home, when this “cracker” killed him”! Totally ignored by you people, is the fact that had he actually DONE JUST THAT, the kid would still be alive today!
            What do I mean? Look at the area maps! Martin was in a place he did not belong, a ‘gated’ community! Had he chose to take his ‘proper’ route home, he would not have gone this way! But instead he chose to trespass into a protected area that maintains a crime-watch volunteer staff of owners! A gated community can do even more than this! They can have their own armed guards in uniform, check points, and arrest authority! Either way, for Martin to be IN the community, means he chose to ‘break in’ to it! He did NOT live inside this community, or GZ would have known him and his family! Gated communities do not have open streets to the public! They have walls around them! People who choose to subvert these walls, are automatically trespassers, and can be arrested and charged! The fact that the community chose to have a ‘neighborhood watch’ instead of an armed force in uniform makes no difference, a trespasser is being watched and reported! Again GZ was doing his job! He was on the phone to the police, and reported the gated community had been breached! Martin clearly attacked him, not by GZ’s “say-so”, but by the evidence presented! GZ, as a representative of said community, also had the right to detain the trespassing offender until the police arrived and charge him as such!
            This incident was clealy Martins fault for being inside an area illegally, and being aggressive! Lesson to teach your kids? Stay out of places you don’t belong!

        • $18476877

          Ignorant? Hypothetical situation. If say a George Zimmerman type should irritate you or me, or say a more common road rage happens and you get angry. Should you A. Control yourself, or B. Start throwing punches, and threatening to kill the MFer, all the while bashing his head into the sidewalk? And low and behold, you get shot? Right or wrong, your bleeding out. Perhaps a violent reaction was the wrong decision? Who’s ignorant here? Once again, right or wrong, if you attack an armed citizen, there’s a pretty fair chance your going to get shot, I’d shot. There’s allot of people getting shot around where I live. Detroit, Flint, Pontiac. Barely makes the news. Violence begets violence, but that’s just ignorance talking.

        • Deborah Hallsted

          He punched out his bus driver, did drugs and sold them. Suspended at school for stealing. He was 6′ to Zimmermans 5’9-but hey, don’t let the facts of his lawlessness and physical aggression change your mind.

        • Deborah Hallsted

          He punched out his bus driver, did drugs and sold them. Suspended at school for stealing. He was 6′ to Zimmermans 5’9-but hey, don’t let the facts of his lawlessness and physical aggression change your mind.

        • Deborah Hallsted

          He punched out his bus driver, did drugs and sold them. Suspended at school for stealing. He was 6′ to Zimmermans 5’9-but hey, don’t let the facts of his lawlessness and physical aggression change your mind.

          • WHTEHEAT

            facts ? “we don’t need no stinking facts”.. the black panther and afro american credo.

          • WHTEHEAT

            facts ? “we don’t need no stinking facts”.. the black panther and afro american credo.

          • suz

            Don’t forget over 200 lbs. Had a backpack with a screwdriver and jewels, etc.

          • Ernest_T

            Did he have that at the time of the shooting? Fact check how much did he weigh at the time of the shooting? I have heard so many conflicting reports.

          • Ernest_T

            Did he have that at the time of the shooting? Fact check how much did he weigh at the time of the shooting? I have heard so many conflicting reports.

          • Ernest_T

            Did he have that at the time of the shooting? Fact check how much did he weigh at the time of the shooting? I have heard so many conflicting reports.

          • suz

            Don’t forget over 200 lbs. Had a backpack with a screwdriver and jewels, etc.

          • suz

            Don’t forget over 200 lbs. Had a backpack with a screwdriver and jewels, etc.

        • annie1945

          Exactly how are these responses ignorant. If you feel that way you must have some reason for it. Point it out. Explain how you are so correct and the posters are so ignorant.

          • Retired Marine

            He is in a word, LIBTARD. A blind fool who doesn’t know right from wrong (or left for that matter). Most likely has an Obama phone, food stamps, and a major drug problem. Dropped on his head at an early age, has never developed into a fully functional demoncrat, but lingers on the edge, much like Sharpton and Jackson, but without the mainstream media propping him up. The similarities are astounding.
            Semper Fi

          • USMC 69-75

            Semper Fi

          • BeautifulAmerica

            Beautiful!
            And Thank you both.

          • jubilee

            LOVE THE SONG… besides they used it for ALL STAR WRESTLING in the 60s and 70s on TV

            GOD BLESS AMERICA……..but we need to repent

          • jubilee

            LOVE THE SONG… besides they used it for ALL STAR WRESTLING in the 60s and 70s on TV

            GOD BLESS AMERICA……..but we need to repent

          • USMC 69-75

            Semper Fi

          • USMC 69-75

            Semper Fi

          • Retired Marine

            He is in a word, LIBTARD. A blind fool who doesn’t know right from wrong (or left for that matter). Most likely has an Obama phone, food stamps, and a major drug problem. Dropped on his head at an early age, has never developed into a fully functional demoncrat, but lingers on the edge, much like Sharpton and Jackson, but without the mainstream media propping him up. The similarities are astounding.
            Semper Fi

          • Retired Marine

            He is in a word, LIBTARD. A blind fool who doesn’t know right from wrong (or left for that matter). Most likely has an Obama phone, food stamps, and a major drug problem. Dropped on his head at an early age, has never developed into a fully functional demoncrat, but lingers on the edge, much like Sharpton and Jackson, but without the mainstream media propping him up. The similarities are astounding.
            Semper Fi

          • Henry L

            Annie, I know you know better than to expect some kind of synopsis from a liberal. Their “counterpoint” is always “you’re stupid”.

          • Henry L

            Annie, I know you know better than to expect some kind of synopsis from a liberal. Their “counterpoint” is always “you’re stupid”.

          • Henry L

            Annie, I know you know better than to expect some kind of synopsis from a liberal. Their “counterpoint” is always “you’re stupid”.

        • annie1945

          Exactly how are these responses ignorant. If you feel that way you must have some reason for it. Point it out. Explain how you are so correct and the posters are so ignorant.

        • EMIRCITNA

          IGNORANCE embraces those that REFUSE to accept REALITY and TRUTH so that they may find gratification in their OWN PERSONAL BELIEFS; be-damned another’s justified freedom, my friend!

        • Matt

          no one agrees with you

          • granny

            You are one of the liberals that can’t read. Your ignorance is really showing.

          • granny

            Sorry Matt. I read to fast but that was meant for Jim the ignorant liberal.

          • granny

            Sorry Matt. I read to fast but that was meant for Jim the ignorant liberal.

          • granny

            You are one of the liberals that can’t read. Your ignorance is really showing.

          • granny

            You are one of the liberals that can’t read. Your ignorance is really showing.

        • Matt

          no one agrees with you

        • Matt

          no one agrees with you

        • USMC 69-75

          Jim, what are you?

          • BeautifulAmerica

            I’ve seen this troll on other conservative websites. Imagine having nothing to do but sit around all day trolling people you despise to earn obaMao pennies.

          • granny

            For starters….IGNORANT….Jim has a low IQ as do most liberals.

          • granny

            For starters….IGNORANT….Jim has a low IQ as do most liberals.

        • WHTEHEAT

          J.I.M. JERKOFF IN MEDIA WALK DOWNTOWN AFTER THE VERDICT AND SHOW YOUR TRUE COLORS TO THE RIOTERS. I DARE YOU….

        • WHTEHEAT

          J.I.M. JERKOFF IN MEDIA WALK DOWNTOWN AFTER THE VERDICT AND SHOW YOUR TRUE COLORS TO THE RIOTERS. I DARE YOU….

        • MeganColorado

          Are you really interested in justice or a fair trial? This whole episode was a tragedy. If Zimmerman did act in self-defense, he’s been made guilty before the trial by far too many in high places–and the media should be ashamed for their obvious bias and the additional problems that will most likely occur if he is found innocent.

        • eganstew3

          I pray that God will touch your heart and open your eyes. God loves you.

        • eganstew3

          I pray that God will touch your heart and open your eyes. God loves you.

        • eganstew3

          I pray that God will touch your heart and open your eyes. God loves you.

        • Randy G

          Jim, YOU are looking in a very cracked mirror& seeing yourself.

        • Randy G

          Jim, YOU are looking in a very cracked mirror& seeing yourself.

        • Randy G

          Jim, YOU are looking in a very cracked mirror& seeing yourself.

        • shamu9

          Fook you Sambo!

        • shamu9

          Fook you Sambo!

        • granny

          Whats your address? You need a visit from all of the NRA members.

        • granny

          Whats your address? You need a visit from all of the NRA members.

        • granny

          Whats your address? You need a visit from all of the NRA members.

        • Pete Clark

          You are mind numbing STUPID!

        • Pete Clark

          You are mind numbing STUPID!

      • jim

        You’re ignorant, as most most of you are just because you can be and nobody will shoot you for it.

      • monacall

        and the president……he did more damage to this kid than anyone else….his a low life jerk (obozo is)
        wonder if we would have heard anything about this if Zimmerman was black?

      • monacall

        and the president……he did more damage to this kid than anyone else….his a low life jerk (obozo is)
        wonder if we would have heard anything about this if Zimmerman was black?

        • WHTEHEAT

          WHAT IS HIS KIND, HE IS a zebra and a muslim socialist ???

          • monacall

            in other words his a half bred…or a mulatto (obozo that is)

          • Stan

            Obamas race doesnt matter, as he is just a bad president, period!

          • Robert Hutton

            Well said Stan. Regardless of all the perfect adjectives used to define the Obama type, it is his TREASON and his Tyrannical, Dictatorial, Warlord behavior, at home, which makes him the worst President in US history. He was presented as an orator, but without his teleprompter, he is the class idiot. The massive money this man has made since he sat his backside in the White House has been for his obedience to the cause and the call, to DESTROY THE CONSTITUTION.

            AS for George Zimmerman – there was only ONE reason for this trial and it was to INCITE RACIST BATTLES ON THE STREET, so the Military, the Police and even Foreign Militaries can be viewed daily on the streets of the USA. This is not a Civil War, the real enemy is far from civil.

          • Randy Mason

            that’s exactly right

          • Randy Mason

            that’s exactly right

          • Randy Mason

            that’s exactly right

          • Robert Hutton

            Well said Stan. Regardless of all the perfect adjectives used to define the Obama type, it is his TREASON and his Tyrannical, Dictatorial, Warlord behavior, at home, which makes him the worst President in US history. He was presented as an orator, but without his teleprompter, he is the class idiot. The massive money this man has made since he sat his backside in the White House has been for his obedience to the cause and the call, to DESTROY THE CONSTITUTION.

            AS for George Zimmerman – there was only ONE reason for this trial and it was to INCITE RACIST BATTLES ON THE STREET, so the Military, the Police and even Foreign Militaries can be viewed daily on the streets of the USA. This is not a Civil War, the real enemy is far from civil.

          • Robert Hutton

            Well said Stan. Regardless of all the perfect adjectives used to define the Obama type, it is his TREASON and his Tyrannical, Dictatorial, Warlord behavior, at home, which makes him the worst President in US history. He was presented as an orator, but without his teleprompter, he is the class idiot. The massive money this man has made since he sat his backside in the White House has been for his obedience to the cause and the call, to DESTROY THE CONSTITUTION.

            AS for George Zimmerman – there was only ONE reason for this trial and it was to INCITE RACIST BATTLES ON THE STREET, so the Military, the Police and even Foreign Militaries can be viewed daily on the streets of the USA. This is not a Civil War, the real enemy is far from civil.

          • Stan

            Obamas race doesnt matter, as he is just a bad president, period!

          • Stan

            Obamas race doesnt matter, as he is just a bad president, period!

          • http://www.LuckyLuxtonAffiliateMarketing.com/ Keith “Lucky” Luxton

            His kind as referred is that of the guy who is usually the evil one in a movie.

          • http://www.LuckyLuxtonAffiliateMarketing.com/ Keith “Lucky” Luxton

            His kind as referred is that of the guy who is usually the evil one in a movie.

          • http://www.LuckyLuxtonAffiliateMarketing.com/ Keith “Lucky” Luxton

            His kind as referred is that of the guy who is usually the evil one in a movie.

          • monacall

            in other words his a half bred…or a mulatto (obozo that is)

          • monacall

            in other words his a half bred…or a mulatto (obozo that is)

          • Devasahayam

            Hindus would call bh0 a daitya (a type of demon).

          • Devasahayam

            Hindus would call bh0 a daitya (a type of demon).

          • BobM001

            “Mezzo Moulignon Finoccho Pinocchio”

          • WHTEHEAT

            NO PARMIGGIANO. FOR WHAT IS A MEATBALL WITHOUT SOME GRAVY AND PARMIGIANO

          • WHTEHEAT

            NO PARMIGGIANO. FOR WHAT IS A MEATBALL WITHOUT SOME GRAVY AND PARMIGIANO

          • Rattlerjake

            He’s NO zebra, a zebra is a pure bred animal. Obuthead is a mutt, junkyard dog, mulatto, half breed. Most animals are cross bred to get the best qualities of each parent, Obuthead evidently ended up with the worst – I’ve yet to see one good quality.

          • granny

            You forgot illegal muslim jihadist gay, and who is the father of the girls because it ain’t BOZO. Not too sure about the big mouth he married either. The girls are better looking…..might be adopted.

          • BD

            Michael LaVaughn Robinson. Moo chelle’s likely birth name??

          • BD

            Michael LaVaughn Robinson. Moo chelle’s likely birth name??

          • Willie

            Mr. Wanna-be-cop did not possess State authority to use lethal force against anyone. He is not a police officer. In addition, someone with access to State authority (i.e., police officers) told him during the 911 phone call that officers where on the way, and that he did not need to follow the person. Mr. Cop-wanna-be pursued “the suspect” anyway because Mr. Cop-wanna-be had his personal gun (i.e., a gun not sanctioned by State police power). The result is either second-degree murder, or we all must carry guns at the ready, and at all times, like in the wild, wild West (rather than calling State police). Then the victim, if he had a gun, could have had a fair fight. Race and self-defense are subtexts of second-degree murder, but both can be seen as totally irrelevant because of the 911 call Mr. Cop-wanna-be made in the first place.

          • Willie

            Mr. Wanna-be-cop did not possess State authority to use lethal force against anyone. He is not a police officer. In addition, someone with access to State authority (i.e., police officers) told him during the 911 phone call that officers where on the way, and that he did not need to follow the person. Mr. Cop-wanna-be pursued “the suspect” anyway because Mr. Cop-wanna-be had his personal gun (i.e., a gun not sanctioned by State police power). The result is either second-degree murder, or we all must carry guns at the ready, and at all times, like in the wild, wild West (rather than calling State police). Then the victim, if he had a gun, could have had a fair fight. Race and self-defense are subtexts of second-degree murder, but both can be seen as totally irrelevant because of the 911 call Mr. Cop-wanna-be made in the first place.

          • Willie

            Mr. Wanna-be-cop did not possess State authority to use lethal force against anyone. He is not a police officer. In addition, someone with access to State authority (i.e., police officers) told him during the 911 phone call that officers where on the way, and that he did not need to follow the person. Mr. Cop-wanna-be pursued “the suspect” anyway because Mr. Cop-wanna-be had his personal gun (i.e., a gun not sanctioned by State police power). The result is either second-degree murder, or we all must carry guns at the ready, and at all times, like in the wild, wild West (rather than calling State police). Then the victim, if he had a gun, could have had a fair fight. Race and self-defense are subtexts of second-degree murder, but both can be seen as totally irrelevant because of the 911 call Mr. Cop-wanna-be made in the first place.

          • BD

            Michael LaVaughn Robinson. Moo chelle’s likely birth name??

          • tsitala

            I wonder if they weren’t maybe even artificially inseminated. Even the boys in the bars around the gay bathhouse he used (?) to attend, know that he preferred men. The marriage was set up as a convenience which worked for them both. Her, because it was known she didn’t like to work, and told if she married Obama she would never have to work again. He, because it helped him look like a straight guy who would be running for prez.

          • tsitala

            I wonder if they weren’t maybe even artificially inseminated. Even the boys in the bars around the gay bathhouse he used (?) to attend, know that he preferred men. The marriage was set up as a convenience which worked for them both. Her, because it was known she didn’t like to work, and told if she married Obama she would never have to work again. He, because it helped him look like a straight guy who would be running for prez.

          • tsitala

            I wonder if they weren’t maybe even artificially inseminated. Even the boys in the bars around the gay bathhouse he used (?) to attend, know that he preferred men. The marriage was set up as a convenience which worked for them both. Her, because it was known she didn’t like to work, and told if she married Obama she would never have to work again. He, because it helped him look like a straight guy who would be running for prez.

          • LAAAAARA

            NO THE OLDER ONE LOOKS JUST LIKE HIM AND THE YOUNGER ONE THE IMAGE OF HER MOM…i WONT ATTACK THE KIDS ITS NOT THEIR FAULT THEY GOT THESE HORRIBLE PARENTS..

          • LAAAAARA

            NO THE OLDER ONE LOOKS JUST LIKE HIM AND THE YOUNGER ONE THE IMAGE OF HER MOM…i WONT ATTACK THE KIDS ITS NOT THEIR FAULT THEY GOT THESE HORRIBLE PARENTS..

          • LAAAAARA

            NO THE OLDER ONE LOOKS JUST LIKE HIM AND THE YOUNGER ONE THE IMAGE OF HER MOM…i WONT ATTACK THE KIDS ITS NOT THEIR FAULT THEY GOT THESE HORRIBLE PARENTS..

          • Rattlerjake

            He’s NO zebra, a zebra is a pure bred animal. Obuthead is a mutt, junkyard dog, mulatto, half breed. Most animals are cross bred to get the best qualities of each parent, Obuthead evidently ended up with the worst – I’ve yet to see one good quality.

          • Rattlerjake

            He’s NO zebra, a zebra is a pure bred animal. Obuthead is a mutt, junkyard dog, mulatto, half breed. Most animals are cross bred to get the best qualities of each parent, Obuthead evidently ended up with the worst – I’ve yet to see one good quality.

          • Leo

            Half white,half black,,So is a SKUNK!

          • Leo

            Half white,half black,,So is a SKUNK!

          • Leo

            Half white,half black,,So is a SKUNK!

        • WHTEHEAT

          WHAT IS HIS KIND, HE IS a zebra and a muslim socialist ???

        • jr61020

          Not a word. Look at all the black on black crime all over and no one cares about that including the liberal media. But let a White on Black crime happen and all the scum comes out of the wood work talking rasism

        • jr61020

          Not a word. Look at all the black on black crime all over and no one cares about that including the liberal media. But let a White on Black crime happen and all the scum comes out of the wood work talking rasism

          • bjreg3

            Or the huge increase of black on white crime. Why won’t Holder prosecute those for racist crimes? Because the victim was white?

          • suz

            because they are all racist

          • catman

            This F guy got what was comming to him pushing daisy’s the pos little basterd

          • linda k.

            I pray your soul doesn’t burn in hell

          • Deborah Hallsted

            I don’t think you get to make that call. Catman posted, therefor alive, and even God hasn’t judged him yet. So that’s above your “pay grade”, and unless you got a memo that God is gone and you’re in charge….you don’t have the final say in where catman ends up.

          • Nikki Clinton

            She said it because he made such an insensitive comment. She did not say he was going to hell, there is a difference if you know anythng about God you know He would not approve of someone saying what catman said, but i guess you have no clue. Wow, get your life Deborah

          • Nikki Clinton

            She said it because he made such an insensitive comment. She did not say he was going to hell, there is a difference if you know anythng about God you know He would not approve of someone saying what catman said, but i guess you have no clue. Wow, get your life Deborah

          • Deborah Hallsted

            She said shes praying his soul doesn’t burn- -in hell. Your reply makes no sense. And how do you know God wouldn’t think he “got what was coming to him”? He may have agreed.

            Vengance is mine sayeth the Lord; I will repay. I the Lord forgive whom I will forgive, but of you it is required to forgive all men”.

            The God who smote down many through the ages, destroyed Soddom and Gamorah, flooded the entire Earth, turned someone into a pillar of salt, etc. etc., would be the exact One to make that call!

            I have no clue? Get my life? Does God use personal derision in speaking with men? I believe I do know a thing or two about Him. But I don’t presume to know exactly what He approves of people saying, unlike yourself apparently.

            But no, this point is true, I don’t know of any circumstance where God called someone a derogatory name like bastard. Unless He was just being factual, such as probably our POTUS, who’s parents were most likely not legally married when he was born.

          • Leo

            Good post ! Nailed it..

          • Leo

            Good post ! Nailed it..

          • Leo

            Good post ! Nailed it..

          • Deborah Hallsted

            She said shes praying his soul doesn’t burn- -in hell. Your reply makes no sense. And how do you know God wouldn’t think he “got what was coming to him”? He may have agreed.

            Vengance is mine sayeth the Lord; I will repay. I the Lord forgive whom I will forgive, but of you it is required to forgive all men”.

            The God who smote down many through the ages, destroyed Soddom and Gamorah, flooded the entire Earth, turned someone into a pillar of salt, etc. etc., would be the exact One to make that call!

            I have no clue? Get my life? Does God use personal derision in speaking with men? I believe I do know a thing or two about Him. But I don’t presume to know exactly what He approves of people saying, unlike yourself apparently.

            But no, this point is true, I don’t know of any circumstance where God called someone a derogatory name like bastard. Unless He was just being factual, such as probably our POTUS, who’s parents were most likely not legally married when he was born.

          • Deborah Hallsted

            She said shes praying his soul doesn’t burn- -in hell. Your reply makes no sense. And how do you know God wouldn’t think he “got what was coming to him”? He may have agreed.

            Vengance is mine sayeth the Lord; I will repay. I the Lord forgive whom I will forgive, but of you it is required to forgive all men”.

            The God who smote down many through the ages, destroyed Soddom and Gamorah, flooded the entire Earth, turned someone into a pillar of salt, etc. etc., would be the exact One to make that call!

            I have no clue? Get my life? Does God use personal derision in speaking with men? I believe I do know a thing or two about Him. But I don’t presume to know exactly what He approves of people saying, unlike yourself apparently.

            But no, this point is true, I don’t know of any circumstance where God called someone a derogatory name like bastard. Unless He was just being factual, such as probably our POTUS, who’s parents were most likely not legally married when he was born.

          • Nikki Clinton

            She said it because he made such an insensitive comment. She did not say he was going to hell, there is a difference if you know anythng about God you know He would not approve of someone saying what catman said, but i guess you have no clue. Wow, get your life Deborah

          • Deborah Hallsted

            I don’t think you get to make that call. Catman posted, therefor alive, and even God hasn’t judged him yet. So that’s above your “pay grade”, and unless you got a memo that God is gone and you’re in charge….you don’t have the final say in where catman ends up.

          • Deborah Hallsted

            I don’t think you get to make that call. Catman posted, therefor alive, and even God hasn’t judged him yet. So that’s above your “pay grade”, and unless you got a memo that God is gone and you’re in charge….you don’t have the final say in where catman ends up.

          • catman

            This F guy got what was comming to him pushing daisy’s the pos little basterd

          • Chef-Frankie

            Sue, .. you nailed it ! Their RACIST and We The People are not. Sure some have hatred for a type of people but those type of bad people come in all colors. It is the race hustlers who are the RACIST and they know because We The People don’t want to get into cat fights to defend ourself we cower away as our only defence. Sad but true, … Until now, we know their game and we now can defeat them by calling then out load and often RACISTS !!!. It time for them to defend themselves. Remember LOAD AND OFTEN !!

          • Deborah Hallsted

            My black grandaughter just told me in school they watched a special on segregation, and how it’s on the rise in schools. I looked it up, on lots of sites (if I didn’t check everything out before I formed an opinion, I could just be a liberal and believe everything and nothing) and it really is. Especially in charter schools, which sociologically makes sense. My greatest fear of this POTUS, which turned out to be both true and false-he’s outdone my wildest expectations-was that he would divide this nation, and “unheal” a lot of growth that has happened in recent years in race relations. As I knew his policies were Fascist, I expected this backlash, but as I said, it’s worse than I could have imagined.

          • bull57

            Obama has done exactly the opposite of what was expected. I’m a man in my 50′s that had just about eliminated the prejudices of my youth, but through Obama’s efforts I’m seeing setback after setback!

          • bull57

            Obama has done exactly the opposite of what was expected. I’m a man in my 50′s that had just about eliminated the prejudices of my youth, but through Obama’s efforts I’m seeing setback after setback!

          • bull57

            Obama has done exactly the opposite of what was expected. I’m a man in my 50′s that had just about eliminated the prejudices of my youth, but through Obama’s efforts I’m seeing setback after setback!

          • Deborah Hallsted

            Several years ago the color of one’s skin, or race, was seldom referred to, and now people are looking at each other differently. Perfect example; Jamie Fox. A renowned self-made multi-millionaire with the “world at his feet” now rants about how racist white people are. Though you can be sure white people have paid the man a LOT of money! Obamas’ reign has stimulated a resentment long carried by many black people (and in historys’ page deserved) and stirred up grudges on both sides of the color spectrum. Human nature is such, that when confronted, people use others most apparent target to oppose them, such as calling someone a “fat” (fill in the blank), when you dislike their behaviour or positions, when that person is not even bigoted about weight. Easy target. And when a president is obviously racist, and brings it up often, also the “entitled” attitude-well, we see the chaotic results all around us. People are genuinely terrified of the changes that have happened in this country, and the loss of tradition, and moral values that have disappeared so quickly, and the color of Barrys skin is that “easy target”.

          • Deborah Hallsted

            Several years ago the color of one’s skin, or race, was seldom referred to, and now people are looking at each other differently. Perfect example; Jamie Fox. A renowned self-made multi-millionaire with the “world at his feet” now rants about how racist white people are. Though you can be sure white people have paid the man a LOT of money! Obamas’ reign has stimulated a resentment long carried by many black people (and in historys’ page deserved) and stirred up grudges on both sides of the color spectrum. Human nature is such, that when confronted, people use others most apparent target to oppose them, such as calling someone a “fat” (fill in the blank), when you dislike their behaviour or positions, when that person is not even bigoted about weight. Easy target. And when a president is obviously racist, and brings it up often, also the “entitled” attitude-well, we see the chaotic results all around us. People are genuinely terrified of the changes that have happened in this country, and the loss of tradition, and moral values that have disappeared so quickly, and the color of Barrys skin is that “easy target”.

          • Deborah Hallsted

            Several years ago the color of one’s skin, or race, was seldom referred to, and now people are looking at each other differently. Perfect example; Jamie Fox. A renowned self-made multi-millionaire with the “world at his feet” now rants about how racist white people are. Though you can be sure white people have paid the man a LOT of money! Obamas’ reign has stimulated a resentment long carried by many black people (and in historys’ page deserved) and stirred up grudges on both sides of the color spectrum. Human nature is such, that when confronted, people use others most apparent target to oppose them, such as calling someone a “fat” (fill in the blank), when you dislike their behaviour or positions, when that person is not even bigoted about weight. Easy target. And when a president is obviously racist, and brings it up often, also the “entitled” attitude-well, we see the chaotic results all around us. People are genuinely terrified of the changes that have happened in this country, and the loss of tradition, and moral values that have disappeared so quickly, and the color of Barrys skin is that “easy target”.

          • msnurse

            Due to all the race-baiting that went on during his first campaign–along with staements made by his wife—-I am not surprised at anything that has gone on—-Unfortunately—staements and actions, made by blacks after his election only proved to me–that things were going to go backwards instead of forewards–and all has proven true!!! He has done more to set back race relations than anyone in my lifetime (and I am a “few” years older than you)!!!!! It’s going to take years to fix what the Destroyer-in-Chief has broken!!! I dread to think what’s going to happen if Zimmerman is not found guilty!!!

          • msnurse

            Due to all the race-baiting that went on during his first campaign–along with staements made by his wife—-I am not surprised at anything that has gone on—-Unfortunately—staements and actions, made by blacks after his election only proved to me–that things were going to go backwards instead of forewards–and all has proven true!!! He has done more to set back race relations than anyone in my lifetime (and I am a “few” years older than you)!!!!! It’s going to take years to fix what the Destroyer-in-Chief has broken!!! I dread to think what’s going to happen if Zimmerman is not found guilty!!!

          • msnurse

            Due to all the race-baiting that went on during his first campaign–along with staements made by his wife—-I am not surprised at anything that has gone on—-Unfortunately—staements and actions, made by blacks after his election only proved to me–that things were going to go backwards instead of forewards–and all has proven true!!! He has done more to set back race relations than anyone in my lifetime (and I am a “few” years older than you)!!!!! It’s going to take years to fix what the Destroyer-in-Chief has broken!!! I dread to think what’s going to happen if Zimmerman is not found guilty!!!

          • Arizona_Don

            Obama with his lies and racism has set race relations back over 150 years. There are more then just whites who are beginning to hate blacks. It just is not possible to run rough shod over peoples rights and think they are going to like you for it. Obama has told so many lies it is nearly impossible for anyone to list them all. He has the balls to cut multiple programs and then take a one hundred million dollar tour (vacation) in Africa. If anyone has ever earned the title of “N” word it is him. However, what it is that has actually set race relations back so far is how the blacks themselves has reacted to all his lies and misdeeds, they still support him overwhelmingly. Consequently, what they are saying by continuing to support him is we don’t care what he does he’s black and that makes it all ok! Sorry that doesn’t work. For years many blacks have fought for equality and against those who proclaimed them to be ignorant. They made considerable headway right up until obama came on the scene, now all that headway has disappeared and they are back to about the civil war days. I personally never had anything against blacks, that is all changing. Oh, I know there are still some good ones but they are few and far between.

          • Arizona_Don

            Obama with his lies and racism has set race relations back over 150 years. There are more then just whites who are beginning to hate blacks. It just is not possible to run rough shod over peoples rights and think they are going to like you for it. Obama has told so many lies it is nearly impossible for anyone to list them all. He has the balls to cut multiple programs and then take a one hundred million dollar tour (vacation) in Africa. If anyone has ever earned the title of “N” word it is him. However, what it is that has actually set race relations back so far is how the blacks themselves has reacted to all his lies and misdeeds, they still support him overwhelmingly. Consequently, what they are saying by continuing to support him is we don’t care what he does he’s black and that makes it all ok! Sorry that doesn’t work. For years many blacks have fought for equality and against those who proclaimed them to be ignorant. They made considerable headway right up until obama came on the scene, now all that headway has disappeared and they are back to about the civil war days. I personally never had anything against blacks, that is all changing. Oh, I know there are still some good ones but they are few and far between.

          • Libertarian Soldier

            While it is sad that a young man, just months away from being an adult, was so poorly prepared for life that it cost him his, I think this is an opportunity to expose the media, al sharpton, jesse jackson (I won’t call evil hatemongers reverend) for racial hate-mongering.

            First, this youngster wasn’t an innocent kid buying iced tea and skittles, “Trayvon Martin didn’t purchase tea, and he didn’t have tea in his possession when he died. He instead had watermelon fruit cocktail, and that is a significant detail with a difference.

            “When mixed with cough syrup, Skittles and this watermelon fruit cocktail formed “purple drank” which appeared to be Trayvon Martin’s favorite way to get high. Taken in high concentrations, the Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide (DHM) is compared to ketamin or PCP.”
            http://www.bob-owens.com/2013/02/it-never-was-tea/

            What I suspect occurred, based on the sum of the evidence, is that trayvon martin didn’t like being followed in somebody else’s neighborhood and had no tolerance for it, particularly since it was what he profiled to be a white man and if we believe one persecution witness, “a creep a*s cracker”.

            It is clear, if we believe George Zimmerman and since the evidence supports his report, trayvon martin, an intolerant, young bigot, demanded respect in somebody else’s neighborhood and didn’t believe he should show any and physically imposed his belief that he demanded and would take his respect on the lawful, community watchman that was waiting for the police.

            Young martin did not expect he’d meet an armed, community watchman. It is unfortunate that this was his last lesson.

            Perhaps it’s not too late for some insolent, young men of all races to learn that you may not demand respect without commanding it and showing it, especially when you’re a guest in somebody else’s gated community.

          • Libertarian Soldier

            While it is sad that a young man, just months away from being an adult, was so poorly prepared for life that it cost him his, I think this is an opportunity to expose the media, al sharpton, jesse jackson (I won’t call evil hatemongers reverend) for racial hate-mongering.

            First, this youngster wasn’t an innocent kid buying iced tea and skittles, “Trayvon Martin didn’t purchase tea, and he didn’t have tea in his possession when he died. He instead had watermelon fruit cocktail, and that is a significant detail with a difference.

            “When mixed with cough syrup, Skittles and this watermelon fruit cocktail formed “purple drank” which appeared to be Trayvon Martin’s favorite way to get high. Taken in high concentrations, the Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide (DHM) is compared to ketamin or PCP.”
            http://www.bob-owens.com/2013/02/it-never-was-tea/

            What I suspect occurred, based on the sum of the evidence, is that trayvon martin didn’t like being followed in somebody else’s neighborhood and had no tolerance for it, particularly since it was what he profiled to be a white man and if we believe one persecution witness, “a creep a*s cracker”.

            It is clear, if we believe George Zimmerman and since the evidence supports his report, trayvon martin, an intolerant, young bigot, demanded respect in somebody else’s neighborhood and didn’t believe he should show any and physically imposed his belief that he demanded and would take his respect on the lawful, community watchman that was waiting for the police.

            Young martin did not expect he’d meet an armed, community watchman. It is unfortunate that this was his last lesson.

            Perhaps it’s not too late for some insolent, young men of all races to learn that you may not demand respect without commanding it and showing it, especially when you’re a guest in somebody else’s gated community.

          • Libertarian Soldier

            While it is sad that a young man, just months away from being an adult, was so poorly prepared for life that it cost him his, I think this is an opportunity to expose the media, al sharpton, jesse jackson (I won’t call evil hatemongers reverend) for racial hate-mongering.

            First, this youngster wasn’t an innocent kid buying iced tea and skittles, “Trayvon Martin didn’t purchase tea, and he didn’t have tea in his possession when he died. He instead had watermelon fruit cocktail, and that is a significant detail with a difference.

            “When mixed with cough syrup, Skittles and this watermelon fruit cocktail formed “purple drank” which appeared to be Trayvon Martin’s favorite way to get high. Taken in high concentrations, the Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide (DHM) is compared to ketamin or PCP.”
            http://www.bob-owens.com/2013/02/it-never-was-tea/

            What I suspect occurred, based on the sum of the evidence, is that trayvon martin didn’t like being followed in somebody else’s neighborhood and had no tolerance for it, particularly since it was what he profiled to be a white man and if we believe one persecution witness, “a creep a*s cracker”.

            It is clear, if we believe George Zimmerman and since the evidence supports his report, trayvon martin, an intolerant, young bigot, demanded respect in somebody else’s neighborhood and didn’t believe he should show any and physically imposed his belief that he demanded and would take his respect on the lawful, community watchman that was waiting for the police.

            Young martin did not expect he’d meet an armed, community watchman. It is unfortunate that this was his last lesson.

            Perhaps it’s not too late for some insolent, young men of all races to learn that you may not demand respect without commanding it and showing it, especially when you’re a guest in somebody else’s gated community.

          • Deborah Hallsted

            My black grandaughter just told me in school they watched a special on segregation, and how it’s on the rise in schools. I looked it up, on lots of sites (if I didn’t check everything out before I formed an opinion, I could just be a liberal and believe everything and nothing) and it really is. Especially in charter schools, which sociologically makes sense. My greatest fear of this POTUS, which turned out to be both true and false-he’s outdone my wildest expectations-was that he would divide this nation, and “unheal” a lot of growth that has happened in recent years in race relations. As I knew his policies were Fascist, I expected this backlash, but as I said, it’s worse than I could have imagined.

          • Deborah Hallsted

            My black grandaughter just told me in school they watched a special on segregation, and how it’s on the rise in schools. I looked it up, on lots of sites (if I didn’t check everything out before I formed an opinion, I could just be a liberal and believe everything and nothing) and it really is. Especially in charter schools, which sociologically makes sense. My greatest fear of this POTUS, which turned out to be both true and false-he’s outdone my wildest expectations-was that he would divide this nation, and “unheal” a lot of growth that has happened in recent years in race relations. As I knew his policies were Fascist, I expected this backlash, but as I said, it’s worse than I could have imagined.

          • Chef-Frankie

            Sue, .. you nailed it ! Their RACIST and We The People are not. Sure some have hatred for a type of people but those type of bad people come in all colors. It is the race hustlers who are the RACIST and they know because We The People don’t want to get into cat fights to defend ourself we cower away as our only defence. Sad but true, … Until now, we know their game and we now can defeat them by calling then out load and often RACISTS !!!. It time for them to defend themselves. Remember LOAD AND OFTEN !!

          • Chef-Frankie

            Sue, .. you nailed it ! Their RACIST and We The People are not. Sure some have hatred for a type of people but those type of bad people come in all colors. It is the race hustlers who are the RACIST and they know because We The People don’t want to get into cat fights to defend ourself we cower away as our only defence. Sad but true, … Until now, we know their game and we now can defeat them by calling then out load and often RACISTS !!!. It time for them to defend themselves. Remember LOAD AND OFTEN !!

          • suz

            because they are all racist

          • suz

            because they are all racist

          • robocop33

            The answer has already been given by the AG, He has stated that Blacks CANNOT commit a race crime as only Whites can be guilty of any race crimes. This is of course total BS but it is firmly believed by Holder and it seems by Obama sees that anytime anything is done to a Black person by someone who he considers White, it has to be racial and is wrong. This is an unbelievable way of thinking by people who are the supposed leaders of our Country. What they should be doing is looking at people as people only and not as Black, White, Brown, Red, or Yellow people. THAT would be a real Leader!

          • Randy G

            Isn’t it funny ” Blacks can not commit crimes.” and the other day muzzle-ems said ” Our stuff is their’s.” Sounds to me like someone needs to join the Civilized Human Race.

          • Kelly P.

            “blacks” what is this 1960, ignorant

          • D. Drury

            Saying “blacks” is not derogatory but descriptive – it is what the liberal media and Obama are all talking about. Saying George Zimmerman is Hispanic is something from the 60′s?

          • D. Drury

            Saying “blacks” is not derogatory but descriptive – it is what the liberal media and Obama are all talking about. Saying George Zimmerman is Hispanic is something from the 60′s?

          • D. Drury

            Saying “blacks” is not derogatory but descriptive – it is what the liberal media and Obama are all talking about. Saying George Zimmerman is Hispanic is something from the 60′s?

          • djc263

            Pathetic Kelly, Please kill yourself, you are a disgrace to the human race. You can’t even claim the excuse of context since Randy is clearly articulating a viewpoint ascribed to the Obama administration as grouping blacks, rather than doing it himself.

          • Terry Adler

            Let me know when you wake up one morning as an African American, then i’ll listen to your little speech. Eveything Obama says and does is not right just because he is the president.

          • Terry Adler

            Let me know when you wake up one morning as an African American, then i’ll listen to your little speech. Eveything Obama says and does is not right just because he is the president.

          • djc263

            Pathetic Kelly, Please kill yourself, you are a disgrace to the human race. You can’t even claim the excuse of context since Randy is clearly articulating a viewpoint ascribed to the Obama administration as grouping blacks, rather than doing it himself.

          • djc263

            Pathetic Kelly, Please kill yourself, you are a disgrace to the human race. You can’t even claim the excuse of context since Randy is clearly articulating a viewpoint ascribed to the Obama administration as grouping blacks, rather than doing it himself.

          • Deborah Hallsted

            See my above comment, if you please :)

          • Deborah Hallsted

            See my above comment, if you please :)

          • Deborah Hallsted

            See my above comment, if you please :)

          • Southern Prof

            In 1960 they were called negroes. The term black wasn’t widely used until the later 70′s.

          • Southern Prof

            In 1960 they were called negroes. The term black wasn’t widely used until the later 70′s.

          • Kelly P.

            “blacks” what is this 1960, ignorant

          • Kelly P.

            “blacks” what is this 1960, ignorant

          • Randy G

            Isn’t it funny ” Blacks can not commit crimes.” and the other day muzzle-ems said ” Our stuff is their’s.” Sounds to me like someone needs to join the Civilized Human Race.

          • johnnywood

            They probably never heard Martin Luther King`s “I Have a Dream” speech.

          • johnnywood

            They probably never heard Martin Luther King`s “I Have a Dream” speech.

          • johnnywood

            They probably never heard Martin Luther King`s “I Have a Dream” speech.

          • robocop33

            The answer has already been given by the AG, He has stated that Blacks CANNOT commit a race crime as only Whites can be guilty of any race crimes. This is of course total BS but it is firmly believed by Holder and it seems by Obama sees that anytime anything is done to a Black person by someone who he considers White, it has to be racial and is wrong. This is an unbelievable way of thinking by people who are the supposed leaders of our Country. What they should be doing is looking at people as people only and not as Black, White, Brown, Red, or Yellow people. THAT would be a real Leader!

          • robocop33

            The answer has already been given by the AG, He has stated that Blacks CANNOT commit a race crime as only Whites can be guilty of any race crimes. This is of course total BS but it is firmly believed by Holder and it seems by Obama sees that anytime anything is done to a Black person by someone who he considers White, it has to be racial and is wrong. This is an unbelievable way of thinking by people who are the supposed leaders of our Country. What they should be doing is looking at people as people only and not as Black, White, Brown, Red, or Yellow people. THAT would be a real Leader!

          • bodica

            Huge ‘increase…’ Maybe bjreg3, or maybe because whites are only now feeling fed up enough, scared enough, or empowered enough to report it.
            2006/7 DoJ stats had black on white crime eight times that of the reverse. Who’re the racists then?

          • bodica

            Huge ‘increase…’ Maybe bjreg3, or maybe because whites are only now feeling fed up enough, scared enough, or empowered enough to report it.
            2006/7 DoJ stats had black on white crime eight times that of the reverse. Who’re the racists then?

          • bodica

            Huge ‘increase…’ Maybe bjreg3, or maybe because whites are only now feeling fed up enough, scared enough, or empowered enough to report it.
            2006/7 DoJ stats had black on white crime eight times that of the reverse. Who’re the racists then?

          • Libertarian Soldier

            You have to get it on nanny cam for anybody to care.

          • Libertarian Soldier

            You have to get it on nanny cam for anybody to care.

          • Libertarian Soldier

            You have to get it on nanny cam for anybody to care.

          • Edwrad D Salk

            No..because Holder is an incompetent buf00n who knows nothing about law…He started out as a know-it-all but decided to plainly follow what I like to call the “Obama Doctrine” (I only became aware of this when…)

          • Edwrad D Salk

            No..because Holder is an incompetent buf00n who knows nothing about law…He started out as a know-it-all but decided to plainly follow what I like to call the “Obama Doctrine” (I only became aware of this when…)

          • Edwrad D Salk

            No..because Holder is an incompetent buf00n who knows nothing about law…He started out as a know-it-all but decided to plainly follow what I like to call the “Obama Doctrine” (I only became aware of this when…)

          • I-Defy

            There was a whistleblower in Holders office who came out and said that Holder told them not to investigate any black on black nor black on white crime.

          • I-Defy

            There was a whistleblower in Holders office who came out and said that Holder told them not to investigate any black on black nor black on white crime.

          • SATCitizen

            B)o( is the scum that started it all with his beer summit. You know his white mama has to be so proud of him.

          • granny

            Yeah…that’s why his communist grandparents (white) raised him. Mama’s skin may be white but her brain is pure African.

          • Terry Adler

            Please educate me on what an African brain is…

          • Terry Adler

            Please educate me on what an African brain is…

          • SATCitizen

            And communist at that!

          • granny

            Yeah…that’s why his communist grandparents (white) raised him. Mama’s skin may be white but her brain is pure African.

          • bodica

            Anyone see an autopsy on ‘white mama?’

          • bodica

            Anyone see an autopsy on ‘white mama?’

          • SATCitizen

            B)o( is the scum that started it all with his beer summit. You know his white mama has to be so proud of him.

          • barry1817

            this wasn’t a white on black crime, it was a black on hispanic crime. Which is also not being reported.

            Because from where I sit, if a black person attacks another, it is the race of the person attacking.

            And how about all those black on white attacks, called by such names as beat whitey, or white girls don’t bleed.

            When are those crimes going to be reported, and when are the authorities going to put those animals back in the cages or better yet thin the herd

          • barry1817

            this wasn’t a white on black crime, it was a black on hispanic crime. Which is also not being reported.

            Because from where I sit, if a black person attacks another, it is the race of the person attacking.

            And how about all those black on white attacks, called by such names as beat whitey, or white girls don’t bleed.

            When are those crimes going to be reported, and when are the authorities going to put those animals back in the cages or better yet thin the herd

          • barry1817

            this wasn’t a white on black crime, it was a black on hispanic crime. Which is also not being reported.

            Because from where I sit, if a black person attacks another, it is the race of the person attacking.

            And how about all those black on white attacks, called by such names as beat whitey, or white girls don’t bleed.

            When are those crimes going to be reported, and when are the authorities going to put those animals back in the cages or better yet thin the herd

          • Bert Knabe

            You are right about that. In this country people work so hard to prove they’re not racist against minorities they become racist against the majority.

          • Bert Knabe

            You are right about that. In this country people work so hard to prove they’re not racist against minorities they become racist against the majority.

          • Bert Knabe

            You are right about that. In this country people work so hard to prove they’re not racist against minorities they become racist against the majority.

          • Randy Mason

            hes not white, hes latino

          • Randy Mason

            hes not white, hes latino

          • Contrarymary

            Egyptian!

          • Contrarymary

            Egyptian!

          • Contrarymary

            Egyptian!

          • Randy Mason

            hes not white, hes latino

          • Vicki Hampton

            But he is more Hispanic than white just like Obama is BLACK even though he has a white mother

          • Libertarian Soldier

            He’s not even all white. They saw his name and it was on.

          • Libertarian Soldier

            He’s not even all white. They saw his name and it was on.

          • Daniel Duran

            You nailed it bud my thoughts exactly…If his sir name was George *Hispanic fill in the blank* we never would of hear a peep from MSM

          • Daniel Duran

            You nailed it bud my thoughts exactly…If his sir name was George *Hispanic fill in the blank* we never would of hear a peep from MSM

          • Daniel Duran

            You nailed it bud my thoughts exactly…If his sir name was George *Hispanic fill in the blank* we never would of hear a peep from MSM

          • Libertarian Soldier

            He’s not even all white. They saw his name and it was on.

          • dr1958

            This wasn’t a white on black crime. Z is of Hispanic race or partially so. They are trying to make it out to be a white on black but it’s a minority on a minority.

          • djc263

            and it now has become obvious that the only criminal act was by Martin. So black on Hispanic crime please.

          • djc263

            and it now has become obvious that the only criminal act was by Martin. So black on Hispanic crime please.

          • djc263

            and it now has become obvious that the only criminal act was by Martin. So black on Hispanic crime please.

          • dr1958

            This wasn’t a white on black crime. Z is of Hispanic race or partially so. They are trying to make it out to be a white on black but it’s a minority on a minority.

          • dr1958

            This wasn’t a white on black crime. Z is of Hispanic race or partially so. They are trying to make it out to be a white on black but it’s a minority on a minority.

        • Grandpa David

          And the wimpy Floida governor that went wobbly at racial pressure, called in a biased politically correct special prosecutor, disrespected the police , D.A., Grand jury process, etc. And that is why the D.A. is throwing the case.

        • Grandpa David

          And the wimpy Floida governor that went wobbly at racial pressure, called in a biased politically correct special prosecutor, disrespected the police , D.A., Grand jury process, etc. And that is why the D.A. is throwing the case.

        • Grandpa David

          And the wimpy Floida governor that went wobbly at racial pressure, called in a biased politically correct special prosecutor, disrespected the police , D.A., Grand jury process, etc. And that is why the D.A. is throwing the case.

        • Madame_deFarge

          I recently read that George’s Great-Grandfather was black. Anyone else see that?

          • tsitala

            Yes. And that his mother is Afro-Peruvian.

          • Madame_deFarge

            TY!

          • Madame_deFarge

            TY!

          • tsitala

            You’re welcome. Obama sure wanted to stick in everyone’s minds that George was white though, and his complicit media went along when all they try to portray him as is ‘white hispanic’-guess they figure they couldn’t get by with just ‘white’ after all, even though Obama sat back and got a kick out of all the beatings blacks were doing to white people, saying “That’s for Trayvon.” He still is getting a kick our of it. Not once has he come out and condemned them, and now they are threatening to kill white people, and kill white kids accidentally. He knows damned well what he intentionally started, and is sitting back enjoying the show.

          • Madame_deFarge

            Black on white crime has been under reported for decades. Agree with all you said,

          • Madame_deFarge

            Black on white crime has been under reported for decades. Agree with all you said,

          • Madame_deFarge

            Black on white crime has been under reported for decades. Agree with all you said,

          • Madame_deFarge

            TY!

          • jubilee

            I’m not surprised that zimmerman has some black ancestry, many people do, especially in south america. He almost could pass as a Puerto Rican

          • jubilee

            I’m not surprised that zimmerman has some black ancestry, many people do, especially in south america. He almost could pass as a Puerto Rican

          • tsitala

            Yes. And that his mother is Afro-Peruvian.

          • tsitala

            Yes. And that his mother is Afro-Peruvian.

        • Madame_deFarge

          I recently read that George’s Great-Grandfather was black. Anyone else see that?

        • Nameless App 1989

          Zimmerman is Hispanic.

        • DonHo

          Are you serious NADA

        • Vunderkint

          That’s an easy question, it would have been on local news only.

        • Vunderkint

          That’s an easy question, it would have been on local news only.

        • Vunderkint

          That’s an easy question, it would have been on local news only.

      • WHTEHEAT

        YOU FORGOT OBAMA AND HOLDER,HIS NON- RACIST DEPT OF JUSTICE?; BIGOTS.. WHY WEREN’T THE BLACK PANTHERS BROUGHT TO TRIAL FOR INTIMIDATING WHITE ONLY VOTERS???? WE NOW LIVE IN A TOTALLY RACIST SOCIETY
        AND THE BLACKS ARE EVEN MORE GUILTY THEN THOSE THEY ACCUSE…

      • janhalt

        And Congresswoman Maxine Waters.

        • lfm41301

          I know who has been hounded like a rabid dawg in this.. Zimmerman!

        • lfm41301

          I know who has been hounded like a rabid dawg in this.. Zimmerman!

          • eganstew3

            Yes he has and I have prayed for him since day one. My heart is rejoicing that this teacher has been so kind and merciful towards Zimmerman. I just wish I could send a card to Zimmerman and his family. My prayer is that his wife is still standing with him and will love him more and more. If he has children may they see a father, daddy, worth loving because he did not take a back seat to Sharpton, Jackson, Walters and Obama. I will be celebrating with Zimmerman when he is acquitted. I feel towards this man as I did towards Terri Shivo. I know neither but my heart is with him and it was with her. I continue to pray for God’s mercy and justice. I think we as American Christians need encouragement. Zimmerman is a leader, and his stand against adverse circumstances is wonderful. I pray that I will also have conviction and strength of character to stand should something like this happen to me. I pray that God will met out justice on Sharpton, Walters, Holder, Jackson, Obama, Clinton, Governor of Florida and any others that bowed to such horrible tactics.

          • eganstew3

            Yes he has and I have prayed for him since day one. My heart is rejoicing that this teacher has been so kind and merciful towards Zimmerman. I just wish I could send a card to Zimmerman and his family. My prayer is that his wife is still standing with him and will love him more and more. If he has children may they see a father, daddy, worth loving because he did not take a back seat to Sharpton, Jackson, Walters and Obama. I will be celebrating with Zimmerman when he is acquitted. I feel towards this man as I did towards Terri Shivo. I know neither but my heart is with him and it was with her. I continue to pray for God’s mercy and justice. I think we as American Christians need encouragement. Zimmerman is a leader, and his stand against adverse circumstances is wonderful. I pray that I will also have conviction and strength of character to stand should something like this happen to me. I pray that God will met out justice on Sharpton, Walters, Holder, Jackson, Obama, Clinton, Governor of Florida and any others that bowed to such horrible tactics.

          • eganstew3

            Yes he has and I have prayed for him since day one. My heart is rejoicing that this teacher has been so kind and merciful towards Zimmerman. I just wish I could send a card to Zimmerman and his family. My prayer is that his wife is still standing with him and will love him more and more. If he has children may they see a father, daddy, worth loving because he did not take a back seat to Sharpton, Jackson, Walters and Obama. I will be celebrating with Zimmerman when he is acquitted. I feel towards this man as I did towards Terri Shivo. I know neither but my heart is with him and it was with her. I continue to pray for God’s mercy and justice. I think we as American Christians need encouragement. Zimmerman is a leader, and his stand against adverse circumstances is wonderful. I pray that I will also have conviction and strength of character to stand should something like this happen to me. I pray that God will met out justice on Sharpton, Walters, Holder, Jackson, Obama, Clinton, Governor of Florida and any others that bowed to such horrible tactics.

          • bodica

            Thank you for remembering Terry Schindler-Schiavo, starved to death while Gov Jeb Bush ‘washed his hands’ of the horrendous situation.
            There was, however, great beauty and grace in the love and perseverance of the Schindler family and the dedication of her prayer and political supporters.
            There is grace here, too, in the testimony of Captain Carter.

          • jubilee

            i noticed that the bushes have a slightly WIMP gene…it seemed that BARBARA RAN THAT HOUSEHOLD WITH AN IRON FIST

            i’m glad a black man acquitted Zimmerman, but pray for him, ‘uncle tom’ blacks may be the next to die, from our barbarian fatherless bunch….(sometimes fathers are there, but DONT CONNECT)

            i believe Terrys husband planned her death, and it was horrible
            WHY COULDN’T THE FAMILY TAKE HER?!

          • bodica

            The courts wouldn’t allow them!

          • bodica

            The courts wouldn’t allow them!

          • bodica

            The courts wouldn’t allow them!

          • jubilee

            i noticed that the bushes have a slightly WIMP gene…it seemed that BARBARA RAN THAT HOUSEHOLD WITH AN IRON FIST

            i’m glad a black man acquitted Zimmerman, but pray for him, ‘uncle tom’ blacks may be the next to die, from our barbarian fatherless bunch….(sometimes fathers are there, but DONT CONNECT)

            i believe Terrys husband planned her death, and it was horrible
            WHY COULDN’T THE FAMILY TAKE HER?!

          • jubilee

            i noticed that the bushes have a slightly WIMP gene…it seemed that BARBARA RAN THAT HOUSEHOLD WITH AN IRON FIST

            i’m glad a black man acquitted Zimmerman, but pray for him, ‘uncle tom’ blacks may be the next to die, from our barbarian fatherless bunch….(sometimes fathers are there, but DONT CONNECT)

            i believe Terrys husband planned her death, and it was horrible
            WHY COULDN’T THE FAMILY TAKE HER?!

          • bodica

            Thank you for remembering Terry Schindler-Schiavo, starved to death while Gov Jeb Bush ‘washed his hands’ of the horrendous situation.
            There was, however, great beauty and grace in the love and perseverance of the Schindler family and the dedication of her prayer and political supporters.
            There is grace here, too, in the testimony of Captain Carter.

          • janhalt

            Amen!

          • janhalt

            Amen!

          • janhalt

            Amen!

      • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

        2 Timothy 3:

        This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their ownselves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

        “Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?”
        Gal. 4:16

      • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

        2 Timothy 3:

        This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their ownselves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

        “Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?”
        Gal. 4:16

    • A. G. T. Jr.

      Please toss in the two malicious katzenjammer reverends, JJackson & ASSharpton.

    • A. G. T. Jr.

      Please toss in the two malicious katzenjammer reverends, JJackson & ASSharpton.

    • EMIRCITNA

      ALSO, the Sanford police chief that was fired by his Mayor for NOT CHARGING Zimmerman should immediately file a lawsuit against his city for REINSTATEMENT and back-pay!
      Bottom Line; the chief KNEW the law and did what was …RIGHT!!!!

    • EMIRCITNA

      ALSO, the Sanford police chief that was fired by his Mayor for NOT CHARGING Zimmerman should immediately file a lawsuit against his city for REINSTATEMENT and back-pay!
      Bottom Line; the chief KNEW the law and did what was …RIGHT!!!!

    • EMIRCITNA

      ALSO, the Sanford police chief that was fired by his Mayor for NOT CHARGING Zimmerman should immediately file a lawsuit against his city for REINSTATEMENT and back-pay!
      Bottom Line; the chief KNEW the law and did what was …RIGHT!!!!

    • JoeBlake

      First if found not guilty..he need to be afford protection by Law enforcement officials..his life is in grave danger.

      • granny

        I don’t think so. Am sure a lot of the other officers hate the Mayor. The police force will stand behind Z. Plus he has all of WE NRA members that will have his back.

      • granny

        I don’t think so. Am sure a lot of the other officers hate the Mayor. The police force will stand behind Z. Plus he has all of WE NRA members that will have his back.

      • granny

        I don’t think so. Am sure a lot of the other officers hate the Mayor. The police force will stand behind Z. Plus he has all of WE NRA members that will have his back.

    • JoeBlake

      First if found not guilty..he need to be afford protection by Law enforcement officials..his life is in grave danger.

    • 7papa7

      I just fear for his life when he walks out of the courtroom a free man. You know that their will be many who want revenge on him.

      • tellitlikeitis

        because they live like animals,call me what you want,when the same race of people, for the last 50 years,burn and pillage neighborhoods cause they got upset that something did not go their way,sorry the people that do that are nothing but animals.tell me this,why didn’t the whites go out and burn and pillage when O.J. simpson got off with killing two white people.but did you see the reaction from the black community after the not guilty verdict was read,you think thet hit the lottery,they were screaming in jubilation.i just don’t get it,i really do not have an interest in people who break the law and are going to trial,thats their problem,so why do the blacks and the media always make a big deal about it whenever it involves a white person doing the crime to a black person.black on white crime is way more prevalent,but the media hides it and the white race do not go and burn and pillage.

        • 7papa7

          I am against anarchy in any form and from any group of people.

        • Sugarrmann

          If the Supreme Court had read these comments before rolling back the Civil Rights Act of 1965, they may have made a different decision. Are these people teaching our children,making decisions on hiring and firing, forming policy on voting, war and domestic spending? Alarming!

          • Kathy W

            I agree, Sugarrmann, but tellitlikeitis is not typical of even a fraction of people. Historically, blacks could not turn to authority the way the rest of us could for protection and justice so the trust of authority isn’t there. We have tried to make the system fair. We need to teach our children that police are the good guys and can be trusted and that laws are for everybody’s protection and not for our persecution. I am sure that you believe that if you lose your vigilance, that it will slide backward again. The strong public response to the LA riots was the best deterrent. I don’t think blacks like to see that kind of thing happen, either. I live near Detroit. The riots ruined the economy there. They now have to feed on one another. It’s survival of the fittest with no hope, though we have strong affirmative action here, we don’t have enough young black people who can resist their environment and stay out of trouble because they are in survival mode. They need mentoring.

          • Kathy W

            I agree, Sugarrmann, but tellitlikeitis is not typical of even a fraction of people. Historically, blacks could not turn to authority the way the rest of us could for protection and justice so the trust of authority isn’t there. We have tried to make the system fair. We need to teach our children that police are the good guys and can be trusted and that laws are for everybody’s protection and not for our persecution. I am sure that you believe that if you lose your vigilance, that it will slide backward again. The strong public response to the LA riots was the best deterrent. I don’t think blacks like to see that kind of thing happen, either. I live near Detroit. The riots ruined the economy there. They now have to feed on one another. It’s survival of the fittest with no hope, though we have strong affirmative action here, we don’t have enough young black people who can resist their environment and stay out of trouble because they are in survival mode. They need mentoring.

          • Kathy W

            I agree, Sugarrmann, but tellitlikeitis is not typical of even a fraction of people. Historically, blacks could not turn to authority the way the rest of us could for protection and justice so the trust of authority isn’t there. We have tried to make the system fair. We need to teach our children that police are the good guys and can be trusted and that laws are for everybody’s protection and not for our persecution. I am sure that you believe that if you lose your vigilance, that it will slide backward again. The strong public response to the LA riots was the best deterrent. I don’t think blacks like to see that kind of thing happen, either. I live near Detroit. The riots ruined the economy there. They now have to feed on one another. It’s survival of the fittest with no hope, though we have strong affirmative action here, we don’t have enough young black people who can resist their environment and stay out of trouble because they are in survival mode. They need mentoring.

      • tellitlikeitis

        because they live like animals,call me what you want,when the same race of people, for the last 50 years,burn and pillage neighborhoods cause they got upset that something did not go their way,sorry the people that do that are nothing but animals.tell me this,why didn’t the whites go out and burn and pillage when O.J. simpson got off with killing two white people.but did you see the reaction from the black community after the not guilty verdict was read,you think thet hit the lottery,they were screaming in jubilation.i just don’t get it,i really do not have an interest in people who break the law and are going to trial,thats their problem,so why do the blacks and the media always make a big deal about it whenever it involves a white person doing the crime to a black person.black on white crime is way more prevalent,but the media hides it and the white race do not go and burn and pillage.

      • tellitlikeitis

        because they live like animals,call me what you want,when the same race of people, for the last 50 years,burn and pillage neighborhoods cause they got upset that something did not go their way,sorry the people that do that are nothing but animals.tell me this,why didn’t the whites go out and burn and pillage when O.J. simpson got off with killing two white people.but did you see the reaction from the black community after the not guilty verdict was read,you think thet hit the lottery,they were screaming in jubilation.i just don’t get it,i really do not have an interest in people who break the law and are going to trial,thats their problem,so why do the blacks and the media always make a big deal about it whenever it involves a white person doing the crime to a black person.black on white crime is way more prevalent,but the media hides it and the white race do not go and burn and pillage.

    • 7papa7

      I just fear for his life when he walks out of the courtroom a free man. You know that their will be many who want revenge on him.

    • 7papa7

      I just fear for his life when he walks out of the courtroom a free man. You know that their will be many who want revenge on him.

    • ONTIME

      Especially CNN, Communist Nations Nework, for allowing Z’s SS# to be seen nationwide on a news video…..that ought to be worth some mighty big bucks and I hope it put CNN in the hole again…..All for Z’s acquital say “AYE”

    • ONTIME

      Especially CNN, Communist Nations Nework, for allowing Z’s SS# to be seen nationwide on a news video…..that ought to be worth some mighty big bucks and I hope it put CNN in the hole again…..All for Z’s acquital say “AYE”

    • Vunderkint

      Even if Zimmerman is acquitted you know the lawyers are going to flock to the parents advertising their services in a wrongful death lawsuit where the standard of proof is different. Either way George’s life will never be the same I think he was definitely railroaded in the whole incidence was driven by race politics, poor guy.

    • Vunderkint

      Even if Zimmerman is acquitted you know the lawyers are going to flock to the parents advertising their services in a wrongful death lawsuit where the standard of proof is different. Either way George’s life will never be the same I think he was definitely railroaded in the whole incidence was driven by race politics, poor guy.

    • Vunderkint

      Even if Zimmerman is acquitted you know the lawyers are going to flock to the parents advertising their services in a wrongful death lawsuit where the standard of proof is different. Either way George’s life will never be the same I think he was definitely railroaded in the whole incidence was driven by race politics, poor guy.

  • Jodi G.

    If I were Z, when I’m found not guilty, I would immediately file a Malicious Prosecution suit against all involved parties.

  • Wonderer

    Got totally fed up with the ridiculous comments on the various forums and scrolling chat.

    Feel so fortunate to have found this site, and to get the day’s summary from Mr. Joy, as it saves so much time, and instantly lowers my blood pressure. I won’t watch the lame steam media regarding this case any more, either.

    I am happy to have finally found a reliable source, now no longer having to shudder at the idiocy being streamed at me, either from the LSM, or the fools on the ‘net.

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      Thanks for your un-biased critique! LOL

      • http://113tidbits.com/ tony greene

        Must feel good to open the eyes of the blind that were being led astray.

      • Wonderer

        good sense of humor, too, I see.

      • Wonderer

        good sense of humor, too, I see.

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      Thanks for your un-biased critique! LOL

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      Thanks for your un-biased critique! LOL

  • TBK Revolution

    The prosecution is completely clueless. “Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt” does not exist at all in this case and for that Zimmerman must be found not guilty.

  • TBK Revolution

    The prosecution is completely clueless. “Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt” does not exist at all in this case and for that Zimmerman must be found not guilty.

  • TBK Revolution

    The prosecution is completely clueless. “Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt” does not exist at all in this case and for that Zimmerman must be found not guilty.

  • Don Miguel

    I have felt all along this is a farce. I don’t know about FL law, but I’m still trying to figure out how this even got past a grand jury. There is nothing here. Well, there is something here, I think. I think-and I know you’ll think I’m crazy, but-our POTUS is behind this through he DOJ, FL US attorney, etc.,etc. I think this judge has been offered a “promotion” if she gets a conviction? Not sure if that’s possible since I don’t know the succession of these judges through the ranks. But I think the POTUS has a personal interest in this. After all, if he had a son, “he would look like Treyvon,” isn’t that what POTUS said? I’ve never seen a judge so biased toward a defense team. Just a thought or two.

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      A grand jury was not convened, that was by-passed so that State’s Attorney Angela Nifong Corey could arbitrarily dream up the bogus charging affidavit, then sail on to re-election unopposed 5 days later.

      • Barbara

        And now Angela has been charged with tampering with evidence in this case. Just another lying, deceitful, manipulate liberal. These people (progressives) have lost their moral compass.

      • Barbara

        And now Angela has been charged with tampering with evidence in this case. Just another lying, deceitful, manipulate liberal. These people (progressives) have lost their moral compass.

        • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

          Not evidence-tampering, but much worse–basically falsifying the entire charge/case. It’s a citizens’ grand jury indicting her, so we’ll see if anything comes of it.

        • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

          Not evidence-tampering, but much worse–basically falsifying the entire charge/case. It’s a citizens’ grand jury indicting her, so we’ll see if anything comes of it.

      • Barbara

        And now Angela has been charged with tampering with evidence in this case. Just another lying, deceitful, manipulate liberal. These people (progressives) have lost their moral compass.

      • LissieC

        Joy, a grand jury WAS convened. There would be no trial if it werent. You are very ignorant.

      • LissieC

        Joy, a grand jury WAS convened. There would be no trial if it werent. You are very ignorant.

        • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

          Who’s ignorant now? There was no grand jury, only a political vendetta:

          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/09/trayvon-martin-special-prosecutor_n_1412551.html

        • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

          Who’s ignorant now? There was no grand jury, only a political vendetta:

          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/09/trayvon-martin-special-prosecutor_n_1412551.html

        • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

          Who’s ignorant now? There was no grand jury, only a political vendetta:

          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/09/trayvon-martin-special-prosecutor_n_1412551.html

          • LissieC

            Of course there was a grand jury hearing, its the law. It’s to decide whether a case deserves to go to trial. Killerman and his lawyers decided not to go a pre-trial hearing (after the Grand Jury hearing) to defend against a SYG law and if the case could be thrown out on that basis. Wonder why? Also I see you use huffington posts to your liking. There are many on the other side. Its a BLOG which has many contributors.

          • LissieC

            Of course there was a grand jury hearing, its the law. It’s to decide whether a case deserves to go to trial. Killerman and his lawyers decided not to go a pre-trial hearing (after the Grand Jury hearing) to defend against a SYG law and if the case could be thrown out on that basis. Wonder why? Also I see you use huffington posts to your liking. There are many on the other side. Its a BLOG which has many contributors.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            Can’t you read? I figured at least HuffPo was a source you’d not reject out of hand. Grand jury was NOT convened, it was by-passed at the option of the State’s Attorney. Get your facts straight, then admit you are wrong. There. was. no. grand. jury. indictment.

          • LissieC

            YOU cant read! There is a difference between a grand jury (which is LAW in cases like these) and a pre-trial hearing that Killerman’s attorney declined referring to SYG.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            I’ll suggest you read up on it one more time, my child. If you heed my words, you might learn something about the law. There was no grand jury convened. I am not and have never referred to the pre-trial hearings here at all. From the article:

            “The special prosecutor investigating the killing of Trayvon Martin has decided not to convene a grand jury in the case.

            “Now, the decision to file charges against George Zimmerman, 28, who told police he shot Martin, 17, in self-defense during an altercation in late February, will be totally in the hands of State Attorney Angela B. Corey.”

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/09/trayvon-martin-special-prosecutor_n_1412551.html

          • LissieC

            I am NOT your child. I am pretty sure I am more educated than you are. I have been following the case from the beginning and it would be against the law to not have a grand jury make it into a trial. Like I said before, while I like to read the Huff, a lot of it is BS. I just hung up with my father who is mourning my mother, tomorrow will be exactly a month that she has died. She didnt move, her arms didnt alarmingly go under her body. Fortunately she had enough pain killers and nobody kneeling on her arms for her to move.

            Do not EVER refer to me as your child. EVER. I am in fact more mature than you are despite your old ass face.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            Here you go, my petulant, obstinate, willfully ignorant child:

            http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/04/no-grand-jury-in-trayvon-martin-shooting/

            Stop making a fool of yourself already.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            Here you go, my petulant, obstinate, willfully ignorant child:

            http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/04/no-grand-jury-in-trayvon-martin-shooting/

            Stop making a fool of yourself already.

          • LissieC

            “The grand jury is scheduled to be convened April 10, but will not hear
            evidence about the shooting of the unarmed black teenager by George
            Zimmerman, a white Hispanic neighborhood watch captain.” You should probably read the whole article you petulant racist old man. Like I said, there was offered a special hearing offered on the SYG law. Grand Jury is REQUIRED by law. So bite it bigot.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            Guess you just chose to ignore the part that said the grand jury wouldn’t be given the case, huh. They weren’t given the case. How many times does someone have to tell you that it is legal for the State’s Attorney to do what she did, by pass the grand jury?

            Headline of the 1st article I posted:
            Trayvon Martin Case: “Special Prosecutor Called Off Grand Jury, Will Decide Zimmerman’s Fate”

            Headline of the 2nd article I posted: “No Grand Jury in Trayvon Martin Shooting”

            Have the courage to admit your error.

          • LissieC

            I will not. There is a difference between a Grand Jury and a Special Jury. By LAW even if you dont want one anyone who is tried for a case like this HAS to have the evidence brought before a Grand Jury. They dont necessarily have to attend, but for a case to go forward it has to go before a Grand Jury.

            I have not made an error.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            You’re going to regret being so obstreperous, when you finally realize your error.

            In Florida, a grand jury is only absolutely required in a first-degree murder case.

            No Grand Jury for George Zimmerman: What Does It mean?
            http://theweek.com/article/index/226580/no-grand-jury-for-george-zimmerman-what-does-it-mean

            Charging George Zimmerman: Why Bypass the Grand Jury?http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bennett-l-gershman/george-zimmerman-grand-jury_b_1445714.html

            “And unless Zimmerman pleads guilty, the affidavit by itself, summarizing the investigation by the special prosecutor, will force him to stand trial without a grand jury having heard any evidence and returned an indictment, but simply on a hearsay statement from two investigators who summarized their version of the evidence. The prosecutor will have been a one person — and hardly neutral — grand jury!

            “Sure, states can require a grand jury indictment, as most do. But not Florida, unless the charge is murder in the first degree – premeditated murder — a “capital” crime with which Zimmerman was not charged. That’s why Florida used the grand jury to charge Casey Anthony with capital murder. Still, under Florida law, Corey could have asked a grand jury to consider the evidence in the case and return an indictment. But she didn’t.”

          • LissieC

            obstreperous – means obstinate. And I am. I also believe that Killerman was obstinate. He like most wannabe cops usually are. He thought he was above the law.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            You’re going to regret being so obstreperous, when you finally realize your error.

            In Florida, a grand jury is only absolutely required in a first-degree murder case.

            No Grand Jury for George Zimmerman: What Does It mean?
            http://theweek.com/article/index/226580/no-grand-jury-for-george-zimmerman-what-does-it-mean

            Charging George Zimmerman: Why Bypass the Grand Jury?http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bennett-l-gershman/george-zimmerman-grand-jury_b_1445714.html

            “And unless Zimmerman pleads guilty, the affidavit by itself, summarizing the investigation by the special prosecutor, will force him to stand trial without a grand jury having heard any evidence and returned an indictment, but simply on a hearsay statement from two investigators who summarized their version of the evidence. The prosecutor will have been a one person — and hardly neutral — grand jury!

            “Sure, states can require a grand jury indictment, as most do. But not Florida, unless the charge is murder in the first degree – premeditated murder — a “capital” crime with which Zimmerman was not charged. That’s why Florida used the grand jury to charge Casey Anthony with capital murder. Still, under Florida law, Corey could have asked a grand jury to consider the evidence in the case and return an indictment. But she didn’t.”

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            You’re going to regret being so obstreperous, when you finally realize your error.

            In Florida, a grand jury is only absolutely required in a first-degree murder case.

            No Grand Jury for George Zimmerman: What Does It mean?
            http://theweek.com/article/index/226580/no-grand-jury-for-george-zimmerman-what-does-it-mean

            Charging George Zimmerman: Why Bypass the Grand Jury?http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bennett-l-gershman/george-zimmerman-grand-jury_b_1445714.html

            “And unless Zimmerman pleads guilty, the affidavit by itself, summarizing the investigation by the special prosecutor, will force him to stand trial without a grand jury having heard any evidence and returned an indictment, but simply on a hearsay statement from two investigators who summarized their version of the evidence. The prosecutor will have been a one person — and hardly neutral — grand jury!

            “Sure, states can require a grand jury indictment, as most do. But not Florida, unless the charge is murder in the first degree – premeditated murder — a “capital” crime with which Zimmerman was not charged. That’s why Florida used the grand jury to charge Casey Anthony with capital murder. Still, under Florida law, Corey could have asked a grand jury to consider the evidence in the case and return an indictment. But she didn’t.”

          • LissieC

            I will not. There is a difference between a Grand Jury and a Special Jury. By LAW even if you dont want one anyone who is tried for a case like this HAS to have the evidence brought before a Grand Jury. They dont necessarily have to attend, but for a case to go forward it has to go before a Grand Jury.

            I have not made an error.

          • LissieC

            YOU are talking about a special jury, which would have noted the SYG law. Killerman’s attorney’s are the ones who turned that one down.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            You’re wrong. Read the darned articles I’m posting, for crying out loud.

          • LissieC

            Donnyjoy – even against his will it would be against the law not to have a Grand Jury hearing. You are mistaking it for the hearing on SYG law, which they turned down. Everyone that is facing huge charges and is pleading not guilty has to go through a Grand Jury whether they like it or not. Grand Jury is not the Jury that finds you guilty or not, its the jury that takes weeks upon weeks of different cases that decides whether it should go to trial. You dont get to get away from it if you are charged.

          • LissieC

            Donnyjoy – even against his will it would be against the law not to have a Grand Jury hearing. You are mistaking it for the hearing on SYG law, which they turned down. Everyone that is facing huge charges and is pleading not guilty has to go through a Grand Jury whether they like it or not. Grand Jury is not the Jury that finds you guilty or not, its the jury that takes weeks upon weeks of different cases that decides whether it should go to trial. You dont get to get away from it if you are charged.

          • LissieC

            Donnyjoy – even against his will it would be against the law not to have a Grand Jury hearing. You are mistaking it for the hearing on SYG law, which they turned down. Everyone that is facing huge charges and is pleading not guilty has to go through a Grand Jury whether they like it or not. Grand Jury is not the Jury that finds you guilty or not, its the jury that takes weeks upon weeks of different cases that decides whether it should go to trial. You dont get to get away from it if you are charged.

          • LissieC

            YOU are talking about a special jury, which would have noted the SYG law. Killerman’s attorney’s are the ones who turned that one down.

          • LissieC

            YOU are talking about a special jury, which would have noted the SYG law. Killerman’s attorney’s are the ones who turned that one down.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            Guess you just chose to ignore the part that said the grand jury wouldn’t be given the case, huh. They weren’t given the case. How many times does someone have to tell you that it is legal for the State’s Attorney to do what she did, by pass the grand jury?

            Headline of the 1st article I posted:
            Trayvon Martin Case: “Special Prosecutor Called Off Grand Jury, Will Decide Zimmerman’s Fate”

            Headline of the 2nd article I posted: “No Grand Jury in Trayvon Martin Shooting”

            Have the courage to admit your error.

          • LissieC

            “The grand jury is scheduled to be convened April 10, but will not hear
            evidence about the shooting of the unarmed black teenager by George
            Zimmerman, a white Hispanic neighborhood watch captain.” You should probably read the whole article you petulant racist old man. Like I said, there was offered a special hearing offered on the SYG law. Grand Jury is REQUIRED by law. So bite it bigot.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            Here you go, my petulant, obstinate, willfully ignorant child:

            http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/04/no-grand-jury-in-trayvon-martin-shooting/

            Stop making a fool of yourself already.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            Sorry about your mom’s passing, by the way.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            Sorry about your mom’s passing, by the way.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            Sorry about your mom’s passing, by the way.

          • LissieC

            Joy deleted his post. Go figure.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            No, I didn’t. You make the error of assuming that because you can’t see a post, it’s gone. You sure do get a lot wrong. Disqus sometimes does not display all comments existing, especially if they are edited.

          • LissieC

            Then I apologize and reply. But remember that I have parents.

          • LissieC

            Then I apologize and reply. But remember that I have parents.

          • LissieC

            Then I apologize and reply. But remember that I have parents.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            No, I didn’t. You make the error of assuming that because you can’t see a post, it’s gone. You sure do get a lot wrong. Disqus sometimes does not display all comments existing, especially if they are edited.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            No, I didn’t. You make the error of assuming that because you can’t see a post, it’s gone. You sure do get a lot wrong. Disqus sometimes does not display all comments existing, especially if they are edited.

          • LissieC

            I am NOT your child. I am pretty sure I am more educated than you are. I have been following the case from the beginning and it would be against the law to not have a grand jury make it into a trial. Like I said before, while I like to read the Huff, a lot of it is BS. I just hung up with my father who is mourning my mother, tomorrow will be exactly a month that she has died. She didnt move, her arms didnt alarmingly go under her body. Fortunately she had enough pain killers and nobody kneeling on her arms for her to move.

            Do not EVER refer to me as your child. EVER. I am in fact more mature than you are despite your old ass face.

          • LissieC

            I am NOT your child. I am pretty sure I am more educated than you are. I have been following the case from the beginning and it would be against the law to not have a grand jury make it into a trial. Like I said before, while I like to read the Huff, a lot of it is BS. I just hung up with my father who is mourning my mother, tomorrow will be exactly a month that she has died. She didnt move, her arms didnt alarmingly go under her body. Fortunately she had enough pain killers and nobody kneeling on her arms for her to move.

            Do not EVER refer to me as your child. EVER. I am in fact more mature than you are despite your old ass face.

          • LissieC

            YOU cant read! There is a difference between a grand jury (which is LAW in cases like these) and a pre-trial hearing that Killerman’s attorney declined referring to SYG.

          • LissieC

            YOU cant read! There is a difference between a grand jury (which is LAW in cases like these) and a pre-trial hearing that Killerman’s attorney declined referring to SYG.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            Can’t you read? I figured at least HuffPo was a source you’d not reject out of hand. Grand jury was NOT convened, it was by-passed at the option of the State’s Attorney. Get your facts straight, then admit you are wrong. There. was. no. grand. jury. indictment.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            Can’t you read? I figured at least HuffPo was a source you’d not reject out of hand. Grand jury was NOT convened, it was by-passed at the option of the State’s Attorney. Get your facts straight, then admit you are wrong. There. was. no. grand. jury. indictment.

          • LissieC

            Of course there was a grand jury hearing, its the law. It’s to decide whether a case deserves to go to trial. Killerman and his lawyers decided not to go a pre-trial hearing (after the Grand Jury hearing) to defend against a SYG law and if the case could be thrown out on that basis. Wonder why? Also I see you use huffington posts to your liking. There are many on the other side. Its a BLOG which has many contributors.

      • LissieC

        Joy, a grand jury WAS convened. There would be no trial if it werent. You are very ignorant.

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      A grand jury was not convened, that was by-passed so that State’s Attorney Angela Nifong Corey could arbitrarily dream up the bogus charging affidavit, then sail on to re-election unopposed 5 days later.

    • sinesterserpentsixxx

      The Chief of Police kept Trayvon’s rap-sheet from the jury. Apparently, Martin had been caught with a weapon, burglary tools, possible stolen jewelry. graffiti, and marijuana possession truancy.

      • Sam

        By concealing evidence that Travon was a hood, wearing a hoodie; they are guilty of FRAUD and Evidence tampering (or holding back evidence). The whole prosecution team should go on trial NEXT!

      • Sam

        By concealing evidence that Travon was a hood, wearing a hoodie; they are guilty of FRAUD and Evidence tampering (or holding back evidence). The whole prosecution team should go on trial NEXT!

      • Sam

        By concealing evidence that Travon was a hood, wearing a hoodie; they are guilty of FRAUD and Evidence tampering (or holding back evidence). The whole prosecution team should go on trial NEXT!

      • LissieC

        Nice try, but Tray didnt have a rap sheet. He only had school suspensions that a lot of kids get. Tray was never arrested for anything, and even if he had, it would be irrelevant, because by Zimm’s own admission he didnt know who the boy was.

      • LissieC

        Nice try, but Tray didnt have a rap sheet. He only had school suspensions that a lot of kids get. Tray was never arrested for anything, and even if he had, it would be irrelevant, because by Zimm’s own admission he didnt know who the boy was.

      • LissieC

        Nice try, but Tray didnt have a rap sheet. He only had school suspensions that a lot of kids get. Tray was never arrested for anything, and even if he had, it would be irrelevant, because by Zimm’s own admission he didnt know who the boy was.

    • sinesterserpentsixxx

      The Chief of Police kept Trayvon’s rap-sheet from the jury. Apparently, Martin had been caught with a weapon, burglary tools, possible stolen jewelry. graffiti, and marijuana possession truancy.

    • Juan Motie

      The way I remember events is the prosecutor did not go before a grand jury. That’s why the charge is second degree murder instead of first degree. The state can file second degree without a grand jury but would have had to have a grand jury indictment for first. I think even back then the state knew they had a horrible case and felt a grand jury would refuse to indict thus taking the easy way out by bypassing the GJ..

    • Juan Motie

      The way I remember events is the prosecutor did not go before a grand jury. That’s why the charge is second degree murder instead of first degree. The state can file second degree without a grand jury but would have had to have a grand jury indictment for first. I think even back then the state knew they had a horrible case and felt a grand jury would refuse to indict thus taking the easy way out by bypassing the GJ..

    • bodica

      ‘Promotion?’ Ginsburg’s seat on the SC? Or…?

    • bodica

      ‘Promotion?’ Ginsburg’s seat on the SC? Or…?

    • bodica

      ‘Promotion?’ Ginsburg’s seat on the SC? Or…?

  • Don Miguel

    I have felt all along this is a farce. I don’t know about FL law, but I’m still trying to figure out how this even got past a grand jury. There is nothing here. Well, there is something here, I think. I think-and I know you’ll think I’m crazy, but-our POTUS is behind this through he DOJ, FL US attorney, etc.,etc. I think this judge has been offered a “promotion” if she gets a conviction? Not sure if that’s possible since I don’t know the succession of these judges through the ranks. But I think the POTUS has a personal interest in this. After all, if he had a son, “he would look like Treyvon,” isn’t that what POTUS said? I’ve never seen a judge so biased toward a defense team. Just a thought or two.

  • 4PERCENTER

    This case is not important. It was staged to distract the public, while the government moved the chess pieces, pulls the ace out of their sleeve, palms and switches to the loaded dice. Forced yoga in a California school was upheld. YOGA IS A RELIGION!!!!!!!! Forced denial of DOMA in California was upheld. DOMA is an Amendment to the California State Constitution – ILLEGAL FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO CHANGE!!!! Forced suspension of Immigration Law is supported by Congress. Buying votes, and importing ’slave’ labor, to replace the 60 million Americans killed in the World War Wombs, a.k.a abortion, further amputates the Constitution’s organs and limbs! Forced installation of a government of islam in Egypt. The citizens AND the military launched a successful coup to remove the dictator AMERICA put in office! America is being dismantled piece-by-piece! The media is making SURE we see the hairs and fingernails removed, but pay no attention to the butcher knife sawing the head (Constitution) off America! Who cares about Trayvon, George, J. Lo, Equinox ads, or the cat stuck in the tree????????? America is nearing the center of the flushed toilet, and the person who flushed it is on 100 million tax dollar, military jobs killing, sequester shameful vacation, f.k.a. AWOL!

    • Nesta Callahan

      I believe that the only reason why George Zimmerman is on trial is because of three reasons, the first reason was because of our president of these United States, who thinks that this little (?) teenager who reminds him of himself, because he has a tan, and he thought that J. Jackson and Al Sharpton, were going to start a BIG fight and get all of the rioters together. The second reason was that his mother and father who let him go out that dark and rainy night, when he should have been at home or in his room doing homework, because he had been out of school for the past week. Why didn’t his daddy drive him to the little store that was about a mile away? Why couldn’t he have gone to the store in THE RAIN? These are the only reasons why this young man (George Zimmerman) is being pounded by the prosecution is because they had to do it because of the PRESIDENT who should have not said anything in regards to the case.

      • 4PERCENTER

        This is an O.J. soap opera, designed for no other reason than to distract us from more important events. Example: the plant explosions in Texas and Louisiana, and the fires in Colorado, Oregon, and Arizona, are all islamic terrorists acts! If you have five consecutive murders, committed in the same manner, you know the suspect is a serial killer. If it is obvious to a layman, it is a cover-up by professional investigators. The socialists are systematically breaking our Constitution into a pile of shattered glass. A law was passed forcing the teaching of the religion of yoga to K-6 in California, and the next step is already implemented for the whole nation. Striking down DOMA is another Constitutional violation of the sovereignty of a State, to govern and make laws, independent of the federal government! Zimmerman will be found not guilty. Turn of the boob-tube, and expose what they are doing behind the curtain!

      • 4PERCENTER

        This is an O.J. soap opera, designed for no other reason than to distract us from more important events. Example: the plant explosions in Texas and Louisiana, and the fires in Colorado, Oregon, and Arizona, are all islamic terrorists acts! If you have five consecutive murders, committed in the same manner, you know the suspect is a serial killer. If it is obvious to a layman, it is a cover-up by professional investigators. The socialists are systematically breaking our Constitution into a pile of shattered glass. A law was passed forcing the teaching of the religion of yoga to K-6 in California, and the next step is already implemented for the whole nation. Striking down DOMA is another Constitutional violation of the sovereignty of a State, to govern and make laws, independent of the federal government! Zimmerman will be found not guilty. Turn of the boob-tube, and expose what they are doing behind the curtain!

      • 4PERCENTER

        This is an O.J. soap opera, designed for no other reason than to distract us from more important events. Example: the plant explosions in Texas and Louisiana, and the fires in Colorado, Oregon, and Arizona, are all islamic terrorists acts! If you have five consecutive murders, committed in the same manner, you know the suspect is a serial killer. If it is obvious to a layman, it is a cover-up by professional investigators. The socialists are systematically breaking our Constitution into a pile of shattered glass. A law was passed forcing the teaching of the religion of yoga to K-6 in California, and the next step is already implemented for the whole nation. Striking down DOMA is another Constitutional violation of the sovereignty of a State, to govern and make laws, independent of the federal government! Zimmerman will be found not guilty. Turn of the boob-tube, and expose what they are doing behind the curtain!

    • Nesta Callahan

      I believe that the only reason why George Zimmerman is on trial is because of three reasons, the first reason was because of our president of these United States, who thinks that this little (?) teenager who reminds him of himself, because he has a tan, and he thought that J. Jackson and Al Sharpton, were going to start a BIG fight and get all of the rioters together. The second reason was that his mother and father who let him go out that dark and rainy night, when he should have been at home or in his room doing homework, because he had been out of school for the past week. Why didn’t his daddy drive him to the little store that was about a mile away? Why couldn’t he have gone to the store in THE RAIN? These are the only reasons why this young man (George Zimmerman) is being pounded by the prosecution is because they had to do it because of the PRESIDENT who should have not said anything in regards to the case.

    • WHTEHEAT

      You so right. All they are doing is the old throw enough shi ite against the wall; some will stick and confuse the illiterate non thinking masses.. The old socialist style of bull chit.

    • WHTEHEAT

      You so right. All they are doing is the old throw enough shi ite against the wall; some will stick and confuse the illiterate non thinking masses.. The old socialist style of bull chit.

    • WHTEHEAT

      You so right. All they are doing is the old throw enough shi ite against the wall; some will stick and confuse the illiterate non thinking masses.. The old socialist style of bull chit.

    • jcsmitty

      This case was staged to distract the public. You are absolutely correct. On Friday, March 16, 2012, Obama issued an executive order that he can re-delegate his presidential authority to whoever he wants. News issued on a Friday is designed to circumvent major coverage. On Monday, March 19, the Zimmerman-Martin story broke out of nowhere three weeks after it happened to help bury what Obama did.

      This is typical of what Obama does to distract the public.

    • jcsmitty

      This case was staged to distract the public. You are absolutely correct. On Friday, March 16, 2012, Obama issued an executive order that he can re-delegate his presidential authority to whoever he wants. News issued on a Friday is designed to circumvent major coverage. On Monday, March 19, the Zimmerman-Martin story broke out of nowhere three weeks after it happened to help bury what Obama did.

      This is typical of what Obama does to distract the public.

    • jcsmitty

      This case was staged to distract the public. You are absolutely correct. On Friday, March 16, 2012, Obama issued an executive order that he can re-delegate his presidential authority to whoever he wants. News issued on a Friday is designed to circumvent major coverage. On Monday, March 19, the Zimmerman-Martin story broke out of nowhere three weeks after it happened to help bury what Obama did.

      This is typical of what Obama does to distract the public.

  • 4PERCENTER

    This case is not important. It was staged to distract the public, while the government moved the chess pieces, pulls the ace out of their sleeve, palms and switches to the loaded dice. Forced yoga in a California school was upheld. YOGA IS A RELIGION!!!!!!!! Forced denial of DOMA in California was upheld. DOMA is an Amendment to the California State Constitution – ILLEGAL FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO CHANGE!!!! Forced suspension of Immigration Law is supported by Congress. Buying votes, and importing ’slave’ labor, to replace the 60 million Americans killed in the World War Wombs, a.k.a abortion, further amputates the Constitution’s organs and limbs! Forced installation of a government of islam in Egypt. The citizens AND the military launched a successful coup to remove the dictator AMERICA put in office! America is being dismantled piece-by-piece! The media is making SURE we see the hairs and fingernails removed, but pay no attention to the butcher knife sawing the head (Constitution) off America! Who cares about Trayvon, George, J. Lo, Equinox ads, or the cat stuck in the tree????????? America is nearing the center of the flushed toilet, and the person who flushed it is on 100 million tax dollar, military jobs killing, sequester shameful vacation, f.k.a. AWOL!

  • 4PERCENTER

    This case is not important. It was staged to distract the public, while the government moved the chess pieces, pulls the ace out of their sleeve, palms and switches to the loaded dice. Forced yoga in a California school was upheld. YOGA IS A RELIGION!!!!!!!! Forced denial of DOMA in California was upheld. DOMA is an Amendment to the California State Constitution – ILLEGAL FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO CHANGE!!!! Forced suspension of Immigration Law is supported by Congress. Buying votes, and importing ’slave’ labor, to replace the 60 million Americans killed in the World War Wombs, a.k.a abortion, further amputates the Constitution’s organs and limbs! Forced installation of a government of islam in Egypt. The citizens AND the military launched a successful coup to remove the dictator AMERICA put in office! America is being dismantled piece-by-piece! The media is making SURE we see the hairs and fingernails removed, but pay no attention to the butcher knife sawing the head (Constitution) off America! Who cares about Trayvon, George, J. Lo, Equinox ads, or the cat stuck in the tree????????? America is nearing the center of the flushed toilet, and the person who flushed it is on 100 million tax dollar, military jobs killing, sequester shameful vacation, f.k.a. AWOL!

  • Mindy h.

    You all are stupid, wait until this happens to one of your familymembers our yourson. oh im losing a fight that should have never started let me pull my gun, that’s what they do in the hood these days cowards don’t use their fists to fight so i guess this isn’t a race issue it’s a stupidity issue, Dummies.

    • jpcec

      And you lead the dummy squad!

    • jpcec

      And you lead the dummy squad!

    • NoMoreMarxistsInDC

      Whites don’t go out at night and sucker-punch blacks. Whites aren’t out there shooting up black neighborhoods. Whites aren’t going around and playing “knockout” games where groups of blacks find a single or couple of white, hispanic, or Asian and punch him in the face and head until he’s unconscious or dead. Whites don’t riot and burn down their neighborhoods. Whites don’t shoot other whites every night because they’re in gangs or making drug deals.
      Get my point, idiot?

    • NoMoreMarxistsInDC

      Whites don’t go out at night and sucker-punch blacks. Whites aren’t out there shooting up black neighborhoods. Whites aren’t going around and playing “knockout” games where groups of blacks find a single or couple of white, hispanic, or Asian and punch him in the face and head until he’s unconscious or dead. Whites don’t riot and burn down their neighborhoods. Whites don’t shoot other whites every night because they’re in gangs or making drug deals.
      Get my point, idiot?

    • NoMoreMarxistsInDC

      Whites don’t go out at night and sucker-punch blacks. Whites aren’t out there shooting up black neighborhoods. Whites aren’t going around and playing “knockout” games where groups of blacks find a single or couple of white, hispanic, or Asian and punch him in the face and head until he’s unconscious or dead. Whites don’t riot and burn down their neighborhoods. Whites don’t shoot other whites every night because they’re in gangs or making drug deals.
      Get my point, idiot?

    • Retarius

      Mindy – you are indeed ignorant. Punching someone in the head can kill – has happened many times before. When their head is on the sidewalk, the danger goes up significantly. Law enforcement experts have stated that for years; its not new news. Based on the evidence and witness testimony, this was most definitely a “good shoot”. There was disparity of force, opportunity, and jeopardy all present – the three legal requirements required to justify application of lethal force. You should study this sometime; you may learn something.

    • Retarius

      Mindy – you are indeed ignorant. Punching someone in the head can kill – has happened many times before. When their head is on the sidewalk, the danger goes up significantly. Law enforcement experts have stated that for years; its not new news. Based on the evidence and witness testimony, this was most definitely a “good shoot”. There was disparity of force, opportunity, and jeopardy all present – the three legal requirements required to justify application of lethal force. You should study this sometime; you may learn something.

    • Retarius

      Mindy – you are indeed ignorant. Punching someone in the head can kill – has happened many times before. When their head is on the sidewalk, the danger goes up significantly. Law enforcement experts have stated that for years; its not new news. Based on the evidence and witness testimony, this was most definitely a “good shoot”. There was disparity of force, opportunity, and jeopardy all present – the three legal requirements required to justify application of lethal force. You should study this sometime; you may learn something.

    • Rattlerjake

      This won’t happen to one of my family members or son. All of them carry and all of them are well trained in firearms use. Add to that that my family members are not criminals, have been raised with moral standards and have respect for others, of course until that respect is unwarranted. Mindy H., if you’re expecting that your family members will someday encounter this situation you/they should just go back to your/their prison cell before it happens.

    • Rattlerjake

      This won’t happen to one of my family members or son. All of them carry and all of them are well trained in firearms use. Add to that that my family members are not criminals, have been raised with moral standards and have respect for others, of course until that respect is unwarranted. Mindy H., if you’re expecting that your family members will someday encounter this situation you/they should just go back to your/their prison cell before it happens.

    • Rattlerjake

      This won’t happen to one of my family members or son. All of them carry and all of them are well trained in firearms use. Add to that that my family members are not criminals, have been raised with moral standards and have respect for others, of course until that respect is unwarranted. Mindy H., if you’re expecting that your family members will someday encounter this situation you/they should just go back to your/their prison cell before it happens.

  • Mindy h.

    You all are stupid, wait until this happens to one of your familymembers our yourson. oh im losing a fight that should have never started let me pull my gun, that’s what they do in the hood these days cowards don’t use their fists to fight so i guess this isn’t a race issue it’s a stupidity issue, Dummies.

  • jim

    Fat man will get away with this again. Surely this time he’ll shoot from a longer distance because he can’t run.

    • nollster

      Do have something against fat people? You’re a bigot! Hahahahaha!

    • nollster

      Do have something against fat people? You’re a bigot! Hahahahaha!

    • nollster

      Do have something against fat people? You’re a bigot! Hahahahaha!

    • Rattlerjake

      Funny Jim, how libturds like you can’t accept when you’re wrong, even when supported by FACTS. This is the biggest problem with the disease called socialism, very few people that are infected ever recover. A case like this immediately shows the people who do not think logically or intelligently, who immediately jump to conclusions based on their illogical and unintelligent, jackazz political beliefs, and will never admit that they were wrong. Interesting that you make derogatory statements about fat people but don’t provide a photo so we can see your physical build; you can see from my photo that I am in great shape, Hissssssssssssssssssssssssss!

    • Rattlerjake

      Funny Jim, how libturds like you can’t accept when you’re wrong, even when supported by FACTS. This is the biggest problem with the disease called socialism, very few people that are infected ever recover. A case like this immediately shows the people who do not think logically or intelligently, who immediately jump to conclusions based on their illogical and unintelligent, jackazz political beliefs, and will never admit that they were wrong. Interesting that you make derogatory statements about fat people but don’t provide a photo so we can see your physical build; you can see from my photo that I am in great shape, Hissssssssssssssssssssssssss!

  • thismustend

    If these women do the right thing & find Zimmerman not guilty they, their families & extended families will be subjected to death threats, they will have their addresses, social networking pages & phone numbers published by the media, they may get fired from their jobs & their lives will be forever changed. RACIST, SAVAGE blacks will riot & light skinned people of all races will be at risk. There WILL be looting, rapes, beat downs & possibly murders, the “black community” has PROMISED they WILL KILL “whites”. Did this happen to the black racists who let O.J. go? NO, they were worshipped by the media, their privacy respected & NONE received death threats from the “white” community for letting a savage, double murderer go free. No riots or retaliation from “whitey”.
    Law enforcement, our judiciary, Hollywood, our public schools & colleges & the media fan the flames of black racism by refusing to investigate, arrest or convict blacks who commit crimes against light skinned races, refuse to REPORT the completely out of control black crime & racism & teaching blacks that they are “victims” & that ALL light skinned people are racists & OWE them something.
    Do I think these women will do the right thing & free Zimmerman, NO, I do not. The stakes are too high & in the end they will throw him to the wolves in order to protect themselves.

    • jim

      Lol now this is laughable!!! Yes everyone hide yo kids hide yo wife and hide yo husbands!!!! Hahaha, oh i’m white forgot to mention :-) just tired of being tied to people with such a history as white people do for hate crimes and racism, from your average person to “the law.” We are not mad at black people we’re mad at hispanic people or asian people or whomever does not fit into our huge american cookie cutter. Get over it columbus did not discover america we don’t own anything and nobody owes us anything!!! We were the ones keeping people as slaves treating them like animals, wake up!

      • Tom Black

        Let’s see. Black men sold black men into slavery. White men bought them and mistreated them. I cannot think of a single slave owner who is still alive. Blacks had it rough in this country until the 1980′s. Through education and a diversified public, I would dare say the majority of whites would never allow this to happen again. However, we whites are also getting sick and tired of being called racists when we aren’t. Don’t like Obama? RACIST! Think GZ is innocent? RACIST. Liberals such as yourself are simply enablers. You enable the Black population of America to feel like they are owed something. You enable them to riot and kill when an innocent man is found innocent through our legal processes. You enable idiots like Jackson and Sharpton to make a living inciting violent behavior and racism towards non-blacks. Thing is, you’ve had so much of the liberal Kool-Aid that you are now infected for life. If you are white, I dare you to go stand on a street in a rioting city if GZ is found innocent and proclaim your support for TM. I bet you still get your sorry rear beaten into the ground simply because you’re white. But then, people like you would wake up in the hospital and think, “It’s MY fault I got beat up. I shouldn’t of been there for when those poor black folks heard that innocent verdict.” :rolleyes:

        • BigUgly666

          Point of correction;
          Black’s own families and the “King” of their “tribe” sold them into slavery to Arabs and other blacks. Neighboring black tribes captured blacks and sold them into slavery, as conquest of war, to Arabs and other blacks.

          Arabs forced them to the coast where they were sold to Portuguese and Spanish slave traders.
          These slave traders shipped these slaves to the Caribbean and South America, as well as European countries.
          Slave were then purchased in the Caribbean, South America, and European countries, and transported to America.

          Why blame “white people” for something they did not do.

          • Tom Black

            I agree with you for the most part. But Whites are culpable in the overall picture of slavery in America. However, I can go back a few generations and find that one of my great-great-great grandfathers owned a few slaves that were black, a couple that were of Middle Eastern decent…un-categorized, and five white, indentured slaves from France and Briton.

            Assign blame as it should be assigned. But, let’s not live in the past. You go back far enough and every race has done horrible things to others.

          • Tom Black

            I agree with you for the most part. But Whites are culpable in the overall picture of slavery in America. However, I can go back a few generations and find that one of my great-great-great grandfathers owned a few slaves that were black, a couple that were of Middle Eastern decent…un-categorized, and five white, indentured slaves from France and Briton.

            Assign blame as it should be assigned. But, let’s not live in the past. You go back far enough and every race has done horrible things to others.

          • Tom Black

            I agree with you for the most part. But Whites are culpable in the overall picture of slavery in America. However, I can go back a few generations and find that one of my great-great-great grandfathers owned a few slaves that were black, a couple that were of Middle Eastern decent…un-categorized, and five white, indentured slaves from France and Briton.

            Assign blame as it should be assigned. But, let’s not live in the past. You go back far enough and every race has done horrible things to others.

        • BigUgly666

          Point of correction;
          Black’s own families and the “King” of their “tribe” sold them into slavery to Arabs and other blacks. Neighboring black tribes captured blacks and sold them into slavery, as conquest of war, to Arabs and other blacks.

          Arabs forced them to the coast where they were sold to Portuguese and Spanish slave traders.
          These slave traders shipped these slaves to the Caribbean and South America, as well as European countries.
          Slave were then purchased in the Caribbean, South America, and European countries, and transported to America.

          Why blame “white people” for something they did not do.

        • BigUgly666

          Point of correction;
          Black’s own families and the “King” of their “tribe” sold them into slavery to Arabs and other blacks. Neighboring black tribes captured blacks and sold them into slavery, as conquest of war, to Arabs and other blacks.

          Arabs forced them to the coast where they were sold to Portuguese and Spanish slave traders.
          These slave traders shipped these slaves to the Caribbean and South America, as well as European countries.
          Slave were then purchased in the Caribbean, South America, and European countries, and transported to America.

          Why blame “white people” for something they did not do.

        • bodica

          Compared to the treatment of post Famine Irish, blacks were pampered and protected – but in another way treated like the liberal’s pet pooches.

          Did ‘white men’ mistreat all the slaves? Or did many teach, educate, and treat their slaves like extended family?

          Before historical revisionism became statutory across America’s colleges, I read that many slaves did not want to leave the plantations where they had worked.

          In the West Indies when the British Government (rotschilds?) reneged on their promise to assist plantation owners who released their slaves, the white owners fell into poverty and destitution. ‘The Wide Saragasso Sea,’ by Jean Rhys -probably discredited by the liberal left literary suppressives way back- brings to life the attitudes and abuses endured by said white owners.

          Holder is part barbadian and allegedly first generation American.
          Since the opening of U West Indies in the sixties, whites whose families had survived the West Indies (Caribbean) for generations were burned out of their homes and forced to leave business and homes behind.

          This happened in Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe, Uganda, South Africa, and now across the USA.

          If they get away with railroading Zimmerman, it will be a whole lot harder for the rest of us.

          • SuperDave2

            Quick historical fact, the first legal slave owner in America was a black man. Check out: http://cofcc.org/2012/03/americas-first-slave-owner-was-a-black-man/

          • SuperDave2

            Quick historical fact, the first legal slave owner in America was a black man. Check out: http://cofcc.org/2012/03/americas-first-slave-owner-was-a-black-man/

          • Tom Black

            bodica, I am of American Indian descent. I have more Caucasian based history than I do Indian however, I have been called racist names typically attributed to Hispanics. There has been great and horrible crimes committed through out our history on this rock. And more will certainly follow. It is human nature to clique up and hate. This is, of course, unfortunate. My wish and prayer for this world is that we become educated and loving enough to put down our preconceptions and embrace our fellow man. I won’t hold my breath over it though.

          • bodica

            I am really sad that you experienced racist abuse, Tom. For a little American boy forced by anti white abuse agaisnt his family to live abroad, I created a series of bedtime stories about a young American Indian boy. They were a great comfort to him in many ways.
            I may be naive, but I think that human nature left to itself will rise to friendship. The cliques and hatred are often conditioned from the outside, by special interests, or mercenary motivations.

          • bodica

            I am really sad that you experienced racist abuse, Tom. For a little American boy forced by anti white abuse agaisnt his family to live abroad, I created a series of bedtime stories about a young American Indian boy. They were a great comfort to him in many ways.
            I may be naive, but I think that human nature left to itself will rise to friendship. The cliques and hatred are often conditioned from the outside, by special interests, or mercenary motivations.

          • bodica

            I am really sad that you experienced racist abuse, Tom. For a little American boy forced by anti white abuse agaisnt his family to live abroad, I created a series of bedtime stories about a young American Indian boy. They were a great comfort to him in many ways.
            I may be naive, but I think that human nature left to itself will rise to friendship. The cliques and hatred are often conditioned from the outside, by special interests, or mercenary motivations.

          • Tom Black

            bodica, I am of American Indian descent. I have more Caucasian based history than I do Indian however, I have been called racist names typically attributed to Hispanics. There has been great and horrible crimes committed through out our history on this rock. And more will certainly follow. It is human nature to clique up and hate. This is, of course, unfortunate. My wish and prayer for this world is that we become educated and loving enough to put down our preconceptions and embrace our fellow man. I won’t hold my breath over it though.

          • Tom Black

            bodica, I am of American Indian descent. I have more Caucasian based history than I do Indian however, I have been called racist names typically attributed to Hispanics. There has been great and horrible crimes committed through out our history on this rock. And more will certainly follow. It is human nature to clique up and hate. This is, of course, unfortunate. My wish and prayer for this world is that we become educated and loving enough to put down our preconceptions and embrace our fellow man. I won’t hold my breath over it though.

        • bodica

          Compared to the treatment of post Famine Irish, blacks were pampered and protected – but in another way treated like the liberal’s pet pooches.

          Did ‘white men’ mistreat all the slaves? Or did many teach, educate, and treat their slaves like extended family?

          Before historical revisionism became statutory across America’s colleges, I read that many slaves did not want to leave the plantations where they had worked.

          In the West Indies when the British Government (rotschilds?) reneged on their promise to assist plantation owners who released their slaves, the white owners fell into poverty and destitution. ‘The Wide Saragasso Sea,’ by Jean Rhys -probably discredited by the liberal left literary suppressives way back- brings to life the attitudes and abuses endured by said white owners.

          Holder is part barbadian and allegedly first generation American.
          Since the opening of U West Indies in the sixties, whites whose families had survived the West Indies (Caribbean) for generations were burned out of their homes and forced to leave business and homes behind.

          This happened in Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe, Uganda, South Africa, and now across the USA.

          If they get away with railroading Zimmerman, it will be a whole lot harder for the rest of us.

      • Tom Black

        Let’s see. Black men sold black men into slavery. White men bought them and mistreated them. I cannot think of a single slave owner who is still alive. Blacks had it rough in this country until the 1980′s. Through education and a diversified public, I would dare say the majority of whites would never allow this to happen again. However, we whites are also getting sick and tired of being called racists when we aren’t. Don’t like Obama? RACIST! Think GZ is innocent? RACIST. Liberals such as yourself are simply enablers. You enable the Black population of America to feel like they are owed something. You enable them to riot and kill when an innocent man is found innocent through our legal processes. You enable idiots like Jackson and Sharpton to make a living inciting violent behavior and racism towards non-blacks. Thing is, you’ve had so much of the liberal Kool-Aid that you are now infected for life. If you are white, I dare you to go stand on a street in a rioting city if GZ is found innocent and proclaim your support for TM. I bet you still get your sorry rear beaten into the ground simply because you’re white. But then, people like you would wake up in the hospital and think, “It’s MY fault I got beat up. I shouldn’t of been there for when those poor black folks heard that innocent verdict.” :rolleyes:

      • Tom Black

        Let’s see. Black men sold black men into slavery. White men bought them and mistreated them. I cannot think of a single slave owner who is still alive. Blacks had it rough in this country until the 1980′s. Through education and a diversified public, I would dare say the majority of whites would never allow this to happen again. However, we whites are also getting sick and tired of being called racists when we aren’t. Don’t like Obama? RACIST! Think GZ is innocent? RACIST. Liberals such as yourself are simply enablers. You enable the Black population of America to feel like they are owed something. You enable them to riot and kill when an innocent man is found innocent through our legal processes. You enable idiots like Jackson and Sharpton to make a living inciting violent behavior and racism towards non-blacks. Thing is, you’ve had so much of the liberal Kool-Aid that you are now infected for life. If you are white, I dare you to go stand on a street in a rioting city if GZ is found innocent and proclaim your support for TM. I bet you still get your sorry rear beaten into the ground simply because you’re white. But then, people like you would wake up in the hospital and think, “It’s MY fault I got beat up. I shouldn’t of been there for when those poor black folks heard that innocent verdict.” :rolleyes:

      • Al Chemist

        32 % of Black males, 17 % of Hispanic males, 5.9 % of White males will serve significant (?) prison time in their life. The homicide rates for Blacks are 7 times higher than whites. Source: CNN.
        Check out a few tweets from Blacks and Whites about this trial. If Zimmerman is found ‘not guilty,’ Blacks are threatening to: (1) Hunt down the (bleep) and kill him. (2) Start a (M.. bleepin) riot. (3) Hunt down a few (M…bleepin) Whiteys and kill them.
        Don’t believe me? Google and see for yourself.

      • Berzrkr50

        Enjoy your guilt dirt bag, I don’t feel any.

      • Berzrkr50

        Enjoy your guilt dirt bag, I don’t feel any.

      • Berzrkr50

        Enjoy your guilt dirt bag, I don’t feel any.

      • WHTEHEAT

        Stop playing with your fun gun , They said it would make you go blind , and there ;are some that will not see.Now you have proved it will also dumb you down.. Foolish statement; ” we were the only ones keeping slaves.” I never had a slave maybe your family did ?
        During that era most countrys had slaves and many still do, they were traded by the African leaders and the muslims, to all that would purchase them.. Guess you were dumbed down also. by the educational system and the socialist America hating teachers and their thug unions.

      • WHTEHEAT

        Stop playing with your fun gun , They said it would make you go blind , and there ;are some that will not see.Now you have proved it will also dumb you down.. Foolish statement; ” we were the only ones keeping slaves.” I never had a slave maybe your family did ?
        During that era most countrys had slaves and many still do, they were traded by the African leaders and the muslims, to all that would purchase them.. Guess you were dumbed down also. by the educational system and the socialist America hating teachers and their thug unions.

      • WHTEHEAT

        Stop playing with your fun gun , They said it would make you go blind , and there ;are some that will not see.Now you have proved it will also dumb you down.. Foolish statement; ” we were the only ones keeping slaves.” I never had a slave maybe your family did ?
        During that era most countrys had slaves and many still do, they were traded by the African leaders and the muslims, to all that would purchase them.. Guess you were dumbed down also. by the educational system and the socialist America hating teachers and their thug unions.

      • BigUgly666

        You’re an idiot!

      • BigUgly666

        You’re an idiot!

    • jim

      Lol now this is laughable!!! Yes everyone hide yo kids hide yo wife and hide yo husbands!!!! Hahaha, oh i’m white forgot to mention :-) just tired of being tied to people with such a history as white people do for hate crimes and racism, from your average person to “the law.” We are not mad at black people we’re mad at hispanic people or asian people or whomever does not fit into our huge american cookie cutter. Get over it columbus did not discover america we don’t own anything and nobody owes us anything!!! We were the ones keeping people as slaves treating them like animals, wake up!

  • Deborah Hallsted

    I have such a hard time with the fact the judge suppressed the texts and vids of Martins’ drug use, dealing, school suspensions, school backpack with stolen jewelry and burglar tool, and also the info that just days before he had punched out his bus driver. How is this not valuable to know, as it goes to attitude, aggression, and menace?

    • jpcec

      Deborah, come on…what you say makes sense. When was the last time common sense was applied to anything in America?

      • Deborah Hallsted

        I’m thinking, I’m thinking. Ok, I’ll get back to you on that, lol

      • Deborah Hallsted

        I’m thinking, I’m thinking. Ok, I’ll get back to you on that, lol

      • Deborah Hallsted

        I’m thinking, I’m thinking. Ok, I’ll get back to you on that, lol

    • Retarius

      By suppressing this, the judge just opened the door for a likely successful appeal by Zimmerman if he is found guilty of anything. It can be argued the judge is guilty of unfair bias by allowing Zimmermans history to be presented as evidence, but not Obamas son. There was a judge on TV yesterday who said this is actually a very unremarkable and typical case – the only reason it is on constant TV is because of the trumped up racism charges against Zimmerman. However, as we have seen in witness testimony under oath, the only one of the two combatants with any racist leanings were Obamas son – “creepy ass cracker”.

    • Retarius

      By suppressing this, the judge just opened the door for a likely successful appeal by Zimmerman if he is found guilty of anything. It can be argued the judge is guilty of unfair bias by allowing Zimmermans history to be presented as evidence, but not Obamas son. There was a judge on TV yesterday who said this is actually a very unremarkable and typical case – the only reason it is on constant TV is because of the trumped up racism charges against Zimmerman. However, as we have seen in witness testimony under oath, the only one of the two combatants with any racist leanings were Obamas son – “creepy ass cracker”.

    • Retarius

      By suppressing this, the judge just opened the door for a likely successful appeal by Zimmerman if he is found guilty of anything. It can be argued the judge is guilty of unfair bias by allowing Zimmermans history to be presented as evidence, but not Obamas son. There was a judge on TV yesterday who said this is actually a very unremarkable and typical case – the only reason it is on constant TV is because of the trumped up racism charges against Zimmerman. However, as we have seen in witness testimony under oath, the only one of the two combatants with any racist leanings were Obamas son – “creepy ass cracker”.

    • tmunson15

      quite frankly Deborah….. this judge is an appeal waiting to happen

      • Deborah Hallsted

        I agree

      • Deborah Hallsted

        I agree

      • Deborah Hallsted

        I agree

    • tmunson15

      quite frankly Deborah….. this judge is an appeal waiting to happen

    • tmunson15

      quite frankly Deborah….. this judge is an appeal waiting to happen

  • Deborah Hallsted

    I have such a hard time with the fact the judge suppressed the texts and vids of Martins’ drug use, dealing, school suspensions, school backpack with stolen jewelry and burglar tool, and also the info that just days before he had punched out his bus driver. How is this not valuable to know, as it goes to attitude, aggression, and menace?

  • Deborah Hallsted

    I have such a hard time with the fact the judge suppressed the texts and vids of Martins’ drug use, dealing, school suspensions, school backpack with stolen jewelry and burglar tool, and also the info that just days before he had punched out his bus driver. How is this not valuable to know, as it goes to attitude, aggression, and menace?

  • barb patton

    Enough of this farce. A waste of time and tax payer money. Zimmerman needs to go home and continue with his tattered life, and the thug’s bloody family needs to shut up and admit that their little thug is dead because he was on the highway to hell and drugs anyway. Enough said.

    • LissieC

      /exactly why do you think he was a thug? A REAL answer/

    • LissieC

      /exactly why do you think he was a thug? A REAL answer/

    • LissieC

      /exactly why do you think he was a thug? A REAL answer/

  • barb patton

    Enough of this farce. A waste of time and tax payer money. Zimmerman needs to go home and continue with his tattered life, and the thug’s bloody family needs to shut up and admit that their little thug is dead because he was on the highway to hell and drugs anyway. Enough said.

  • barb patton

    Enough of this farce. A waste of time and tax payer money. Zimmerman needs to go home and continue with his tattered life, and the thug’s bloody family needs to shut up and admit that their little thug is dead because he was on the highway to hell and drugs anyway. Enough said.

  • bob novak

    Hell why on earth would anyone think Zimmerman could have taken any other action than deadly force. He was attacked by a bigger man, was getting his head bashed in against a concrete curb, and he had a gun. I think Zimmerman showed remarkable restraint by not empting his clip into Martins stupid thick skull.

  • bob novak

    Hell why on earth would anyone think Zimmerman could have taken any other action than deadly force. He was attacked by a bigger man, was getting his head bashed in against a concrete curb, and he had a gun. I think Zimmerman showed remarkable restraint by not empting his clip into Martins stupid thick skull.

  • bob novak

    Hell why on earth would anyone think Zimmerman could have taken any other action than deadly force. He was attacked by a bigger man, was getting his head bashed in against a concrete curb, and he had a gun. I think Zimmerman showed remarkable restraint by not empting his clip into Martins stupid thick skull.

  • slickzip

    SET GEORGE FREE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • slickzip

    SET GEORGE FREE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • vonveezil

    Free Zimmerman.
    This railroad job by the Obama regime has gone on long enough.

  • vonveezil

    Free Zimmerman.
    This railroad job by the Obama regime has gone on long enough.

  • vonveezil

    Free Zimmerman.
    This railroad job by the Obama regime has gone on long enough.

  • Michael Penson

    The word on the street is the President is going to ask the Justice Department to investagate the prosectution office and has prepared a pardon for Mr. Zim. He said that he is retracting his statement about TM being like a son, after he the FBI discovered the telephone recording of the fights and school records. He said: “No son of mine would like that and hold a man on the ground and beat his head into the concrete.” The FBI believe that they now have a large homemade knife that TM was carrying.

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      ??

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      ??

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      Don’t torment me like that!

    • LissieC

      The word on the street?

    • LissieC

      The word on the street?

  • peterhamilton

    How does this testimony that he excelled in a course that included instruction on self defense and castle law square with his video statements that he had no knowledge of these doctrines?

    • Grayzel

      It does not square. What is your point?

    • Grayzel

      It does not square. What is your point?

    • tmunson15

      perhaps because there is a legal difference between the “castle” law and the “stand your ground” law

    • tmunson15

      perhaps because there is a legal difference between the “castle” law and the “stand your ground” law

    • tmunson15

      perhaps because there is a legal difference between the “castle” law and the “stand your ground” law

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      Not castle doctrine–the question concerns the so-called stand-your-ground doctrine. One perspective someone suggested to me is that when Zimmerman took Capt. Carter’s class, Carter and the course material did not refer to it under the nickname “stand-your-ground,” so when Hannity put it that way, Zimmerman could not recall.

  • Da Doctor

    It’s all based on greedy parents and the fact Zimmerman is white. Were he black, there would be no trial going on and that my friends is fact.

    • tmunson15

      sorry but George identifies himself as hispanic

    • tmunson15

      sorry but George identifies himself as hispanic

      • Curator

        true, but he was identified by the media as white originally, which is why this took off to begin with.

      • Curator

        true, but he was identified by the media as white originally, which is why this took off to begin with.

      • Curator

        true, but he was identified by the media as white originally, which is why this took off to begin with.

      • BigUgly666

        Perhaps “white” is incorrect terminology … however …. Zimmerman IS “Caucasian”, like it or not.

        • tmunson15

          eau contraire my friend…. if his bloodline achieves a given percentage he is and can legally choose his race…. if I understand your analysis correctly then his fathers heritage must override his mothers Hispanic lineage in order to be classified as a true “Caucasian”…. basically impossible as there are very few true “Caucasian’s”….. ….. much like Obama is “black”….

        • tmunson15

          eau contraire my friend…. if his bloodline achieves a given percentage he is and can legally choose his race…. if I understand your analysis correctly then his fathers heritage must override his mothers Hispanic lineage in order to be classified as a true “Caucasian”…. basically impossible as there are very few true “Caucasian’s”….. ….. much like Obama is “black”….

        • tmunson15

          eau contraire my friend…. if his bloodline achieves a given percentage he is and can legally choose his race…. if I understand your analysis correctly then his fathers heritage must override his mothers Hispanic lineage in order to be classified as a true “Caucasian”…. basically impossible as there are very few true “Caucasian’s”….. ….. much like Obama is “black”….

      • BigUgly666

        Perhaps “white” is incorrect terminology … however …. Zimmerman IS “Caucasian”, like it or not.

      • tagdogs

        But, the liberal media identifies him as “white” Hispanic.

      • tagdogs

        But, the liberal media identifies him as “white” Hispanic.

      • tagdogs

        But, the liberal media identifies him as “white” Hispanic.

      • Da Doctor

        Okay, let me rephrase my post….Zimmerman is not black. Had he been, there would be no injustice, no outrage by the liberal left and the Obama voting black community. It would simply have been another black on black shooting and mugging. Feel better now? I certainly do.

        • tmunson15

          my my…. seems I struck a nerve…. just clarifying what appeared to be an oversight….. and there is a huge difference between ” the fact Zimmerman is white” and “Zimmerman is not black”…and never felt better … thanks for asking

          • Da Doctor

            No nerve struck…don’t imagine any such thing. Hardly ever get pissed off about a post of follow up on the internet. If justice is to be served, when the not guilty verdict is read I certainly hope the black community allows justice to happen and accept the verdict as read.

          • Da Doctor

            No nerve struck…don’t imagine any such thing. Hardly ever get pissed off about a post of follow up on the internet. If justice is to be served, when the not guilty verdict is read I certainly hope the black community allows justice to happen and accept the verdict as read.

          • Da Doctor

            No nerve struck…don’t imagine any such thing. Hardly ever get pissed off about a post of follow up on the internet. If justice is to be served, when the not guilty verdict is read I certainly hope the black community allows justice to happen and accept the verdict as read.

        • tmunson15

          my my…. seems I struck a nerve…. just clarifying what appeared to be an oversight….. and there is a huge difference between ” the fact Zimmerman is white” and “Zimmerman is not black”…and never felt better … thanks for asking

        • tmunson15

          my my…. seems I struck a nerve…. just clarifying what appeared to be an oversight….. and there is a huge difference between ” the fact Zimmerman is white” and “Zimmerman is not black”…and never felt better … thanks for asking

    • tmunson15

      sorry but George identifies himself as hispanic

  • Irma

    Ya think it’s about time that people STOP “judging” by color? Obviously, Prof. Carter is not looking at people based on their color, but on their character. Gee, who else said that???!!! Now if only the idiots – especially the Left – could also “enlighten” themselves. Since “Lady Justice” has a blind fold on, perhaps the public in general should be blind-folded so that maybe they would listen to the testimony and forget about skin color!

  • Irma

    Ya think it’s about time that people STOP “judging” by color? Obviously, Prof. Carter is not looking at people based on their color, but on their character. Gee, who else said that???!!! Now if only the idiots – especially the Left – could also “enlighten” themselves. Since “Lady Justice” has a blind fold on, perhaps the public in general should be blind-folded so that maybe they would listen to the testimony and forget about skin color!

    • EMIRCITNA

      THE MEDIA CONTINUES to “blind” the public by showing the far out-dated photo of a baby-faced Trayvon Martin, when they have access to photos of the actual Trayvon that attacked Zimmerman!

    • EMIRCITNA

      THE MEDIA CONTINUES to “blind” the public by showing the far out-dated photo of a baby-faced Trayvon Martin, when they have access to photos of the actual Trayvon that attacked Zimmerman!

    • EMIRCITNA

      THE MEDIA CONTINUES to “blind” the public by showing the far out-dated photo of a baby-faced Trayvon Martin, when they have access to photos of the actual Trayvon that attacked Zimmerman!

  • Irma

    Ya think it’s about time that people STOP “judging” by color? Obviously, Prof. Carter is not looking at people based on their color, but on their character. Gee, who else said that???!!! Now if only the idiots – especially the Left – could also “enlighten” themselves. Since “Lady Justice” has a blind fold on, perhaps the public in general should be blind-folded so that maybe they would listen to the testimony and forget about skin color!

  • Dwilly

    Poor Zimmerman will be found guilty, not because he is mind you, but because this is where America has gone. Evidence doesn’t matter. What matters is will this make all of us crackers say…, see I told you I’m not a racist! It’s a sad day in our justice system when the evidence is only a sidebar and what Nancy Grace thinks is more important. I wouldn’t worry much about the blacks rioting as much as Nancy’s trailer park audience burning down their park!

  • Dwilly

    Poor Zimmerman will be found guilty, not because he is mind you, but because this is where America has gone. Evidence doesn’t matter. What matters is will this make all of us crackers say…, see I told you I’m not a racist! It’s a sad day in our justice system when the evidence is only a sidebar and what Nancy Grace thinks is more important. I wouldn’t worry much about the blacks rioting as much as Nancy’s trailer park audience burning down their park!

  • NoMoreMarxistsInDC

    Whites don’t go out at night and sucker-punch blacks. Whites aren’t out there shooting up black neighborhoods. Whites aren’t going around and playing “knockout” games where groups of blacks find a single or couple of white, hispanic, or Asian and punch him in the face and head until he’s unconscious or dead. Whites don’t riot and burn down their neighborhoods. Whites don’t shoot other whites every night because they’re in gangs or making drug deals like in Chicago, LA, New York, Newark, NJ, etc.

    • Azsteve53

      You make a very compelling argument, I can’t find a single instance of ANY white gang in the last decade evolving into a flash mob that picked on minority victims, nothing like it exists.

      The phenom seems to belong entirely to non whites and there are dozens of cases where non whites have attacked whites for no reason

      Chicago murder rate is here;

      http://www.heyjackass.com/

      Broken down by race it appears that 77% of homicide victims are Blacks and 25% are Hispanic, the rest are white, Asian, etc. The suspects are also nearly all black or Hispanic, what does that say ?

      • Azsteve53

        Make that 20.5 percent Hispanic.

        Fat finger typo

        • Curator

          was about to say…lol :)

        • Curator

          was about to say…lol :)

    • Azsteve53

      You make a very compelling argument, I can’t find a single instance of ANY white gang in the last decade evolving into a flash mob that picked on minority victims, nothing like it exists.

      The phenom seems to belong entirely to non whites and there are dozens of cases where non whites have attacked whites for no reason

      Chicago murder rate is here;

      http://www.heyjackass.com/

      Broken down by race it appears that 77% of homicide victims are Blacks and 25% are Hispanic, the rest are white, Asian, etc. The suspects are also nearly all black or Hispanic, what does that say ?

    • BigUgly666

      Hmmm! Maybe they should?

    • BigUgly666

      Hmmm! Maybe they should?

    • BigUgly666

      Hmmm! Maybe they should?

  • NoMoreMarxistsInDC

    Whites don’t go out at night and sucker-punch blacks. Whites aren’t out there shooting up black neighborhoods. Whites aren’t going around and playing “knockout” games where groups of blacks find a single or couple of white, hispanic, or Asian and punch him in the face and head until he’s unconscious or dead. Whites don’t riot and burn down their neighborhoods. Whites don’t shoot other whites every night because they’re in gangs or making drug deals like in Chicago, LA, New York, Newark, NJ, etc.

  • aaron

    he isn’t guilty, George was defending himself from a monster.

  • aaron

    he isn’t guilty, George was defending himself from a monster.

  • aaron

    he isn’t guilty, George was defending himself from a monster.

  • gmhunt4

    Zimmerman will be found guilty, because he killed Obama’s son…………

  • gmhunt4

    Zimmerman will be found guilty, because he killed Obama’s son…………

  • gmhunt4

    Zimmerman will be found guilty, because he killed Obama’s son…………

  • bayoucastine

    I heard a theory on the “why” this case is even being tried.

    The way the incident was picked up by the ‘state media’ and blown way out of proportion, even getting a comment from the President, forced this DA’s office to prosecute even while the office KNEW they did not and have not got a leg to stand on. Therefore they are going through the motions of a trial to the extent of calling all these ‘witnesses’ who seem to blow
    holes in the DA’s case.

  • bayoucastine

    I heard a theory on the “why” this case is even being tried.

    The way the incident was picked up by the ‘state media’ and blown way out of proportion, even getting a comment from the President, forced this DA’s office to prosecute even while the office KNEW they did not and have not got a leg to stand on. Therefore they are going through the motions of a trial to the extent of calling all these ‘witnesses’ who seem to blow
    holes in the DA’s case.

  • bayoucastine

    I heard a theory on the “why” this case is even being tried.

    The way the incident was picked up by the ‘state media’ and blown way out of proportion, even getting a comment from the President, forced this DA’s office to prosecute even while the office KNEW they did not and have not got a leg to stand on. Therefore they are going through the motions of a trial to the extent of calling all these ‘witnesses’ who seem to blow
    holes in the DA’s case.

  • Matt

    This f’d up country will not let Zimmerman walk. I can’t see how. America’s agenda is blacks, muslims and abortions. No more, no less.

  • Matt

    This f’d up country will not let Zimmerman walk. I can’t see how. America’s agenda is blacks, muslims and abortions. No more, no less.

    • regulus30

      this trial will solidify that concept; which i totally agree with, not to mention an all female jury; not good at all; we must free George by protesting in the city like the chiggers would if he is found “not guilty” by reason of SANITY.

    • regulus30

      this trial will solidify that concept; which i totally agree with, not to mention an all female jury; not good at all; we must free George by protesting in the city like the chiggers would if he is found “not guilty” by reason of SANITY.

  • Matt

    This f’d up country will not let Zimmerman walk. I can’t see how. America’s agenda is blacks, muslims and abortions. No more, no less.

  • regulus30

    I hope you are right; the only way to stop obama and his race baiting is to play their game; take it to them, they will fold. the theory behind this fiasco is to rile up the blacks; van jones quotes;” we must force obama to do what he knows is right.”

  • regulus30

    I hope you are right; the only way to stop obama and his race baiting is to play their game; take it to them, they will fold. the theory behind this fiasco is to rile up the blacks; van jones quotes;” we must force obama to do what he knows is right.”

  • regulus30

    I hope you are right; the only way to stop obama and his race baiting is to play their game; take it to them, they will fold. the theory behind this fiasco is to rile up the blacks; van jones quotes;” we must force obama to do what he knows is right.”

  • Tonto

    My concern is that George will still be convicted wrongly of SOMETHING to appease the blacks. The riot has already been threatened…..and that’s what they do. They don’t like a court decision and they riot, tear up their own neighborhoods (they know better than to try that in white areas….because they’d be shot), and then demand the ‘creep-ass crackers” clean up the mess. This is bullying…..and I’m quite tired of it. Let them riot and tear up their own areas…..and leave it the way they leave it….a mess. After they leave, burn it down!

  • Tonto

    My concern is that George will still be convicted wrongly of SOMETHING to appease the blacks. The riot has already been threatened…..and that’s what they do. They don’t like a court decision and they riot, tear up their own neighborhoods (they know better than to try that in white areas….because they’d be shot), and then demand the ‘creep-ass crackers” clean up the mess. This is bullying…..and I’m quite tired of it. Let them riot and tear up their own areas…..and leave it the way they leave it….a mess. After they leave, burn it down!

    • BigUgly666

      Let them riot – and cut them down.

    • BigUgly666

      Let them riot – and cut them down.

  • Mobetta Jenkem

    Zimmerman should NEVER have seen the inside of a courtroom over this issue.
    The liberal PC imbecile community simply wants someone to nail to the cross they’ve fashioned in the name of so-called “appeasement,” of course.

    To hell with both them and those they wish to appease.

    These vermin are positively ruining the country, and they seem to be very pleased with themselves over the progress made.

    They’re traitors of the highest order.

  • Mobetta Jenkem

    Zimmerman should NEVER have seen the inside of a courtroom over this issue.
    The liberal PC imbecile community simply wants someone to nail to the cross they’ve fashioned in the name of so-called “appeasement,” of course.

    To hell with both them and those they wish to appease.

    These vermin are positively ruining the country, and they seem to be very pleased with themselves over the progress made.

    They’re traitors of the highest order.

  • GenEarly

    The image painted by the media is that Z knew the law and used it unfairly. On the other hand when you go to court the usual saying is ignorance of the law is no excuse.
    Most people in FL with a CC license know the law and what to say and more importantly not say when the police arrive following a shooting. A CC person is usually following the law as evidenced by having a permit in the first place, not all people do follow the law, and now that’s the real problem in society.

  • GenEarly

    The image painted by the media is that Z knew the law and used it unfairly. On the other hand when you go to court the usual saying is ignorance of the law is no excuse.
    Most people in FL with a CC license know the law and what to say and more importantly not say when the police arrive following a shooting. A CC person is usually following the law as evidenced by having a permit in the first place, not all people do follow the law, and now that’s the real problem in society.

  • MichaelG23

    There are exceptional Americans of dark skin, black, coffee, chocolate, mocha. They are first and Utmost Americans first, then their nationality second.
    For this the Hyphenated community will seek him out to destroy.

  • SGT Big Dawg

    The prosecution is winning this case for the defense with their own witnesses. The rest of this trial is simply going through the motions till it is turned over to the jury to vote on. Reasonable doubt was established with the prosecution’s first 3 witnesses to testify.

  • Lilli

    Am I the only one who believes racial tension as escalated to “pre-civil rights” marches?….I only know about them through history…but I can’t help but wish we had an MLK to preach healed relationships and unity in this nation. Gangs are targeting whites just because they are white…kids are being maimed, pregnant women are being attacked, babies are being shot in the face…..and in each case, it is black on white crime….Are blacks once again feeling disenfranchised because of the economic climate?…or embolden by a president who claims he is the great uniter, while in reality, if the biggest divider this nation has ever been subjected to….We are all chattel….black or white, don’t buy into the fact that anyone in DC cares one wit about you past your vote that keeps their sorry ass rolling in the dough….It should be us against them…not us against each other…

  • oldtimer

    There is no question in the mind of any straight thinking person that Zimmerman is innocent. This trial is to satisfy our race splitting Muslim president and other race mongers such as Sharpton and Jackson.

  • bobbylang

    What a colossal waste of time, money, and theater! This was never a question, except for the possibility it could be used as a tool to incite racial hatred!
    The “Soros” media, dutifully responded, by distorting the language, presenting one sided evidence, splashing this rather mundane occurrence as broadly and with as much prejudice as possible!!
    As the liberals and the folks in Chicago say, “…never let an opportunity go to waste…”!
    Disgusting!

  • Don Wayne

    well, unfortunately mr. Zimmerman will never be able to go home and lead a life at all after this, between the death threats, the media giving out his personal info, including his ssn, and the racial tensions created by two grossly fake reverends and a race bating president. GZ will have a very hard time leading a decent or normal life for many years.

    • 7papa7

      He will probably need to go into the equivalent of witness protection.

    • 7papa7

      He will probably need to go into the equivalent of witness protection.

    • 7papa7

      He will probably need to go into the equivalent of witness protection.

    • BigUgly666

      All he needs to do is exercise his “Stand Your Ground” Rights along with his Second Amendment Rights a few more times and the “trash” will leave him alone.

    • BigUgly666

      All he needs to do is exercise his “Stand Your Ground” Rights along with his Second Amendment Rights a few more times and the “trash” will leave him alone.

      • LissieC

        Do you think there may be a reason his attorneys advised him not to do this during the Grand Jury testimony?

        • BigUgly666

          My comment is in reference to the remainder of his life and the death threats he has received … it has nothing to do with the case now being heard. Please READ the comments.

          • LissieC

            BigUgly666 – you describe yourself as an ugly devil. And I made a mistake about the grand jury, there was one. I am talking about the pre-trial hearing where Killerman was offered a choice to plead based on SYG laws. Which I personally find ridiculous. You can just go around killing people because you think they are scary?

          • LissieC

            BigUgly666 – you describe yourself as an ugly devil. And I made a mistake about the grand jury, there was one. I am talking about the pre-trial hearing where Killerman was offered a choice to plead based on SYG laws. Which I personally find ridiculous. You can just go around killing people because you think they are scary?

          • BigUgly666

            I did not “describe” myself as anything – methinks you assume rather a bit too much….. just like I could from YOUR avatar.
            You prove your bias by using the term “Killerman” and it is clear that no amount of fact or truth will ever dissuade you from your chosen course.
            No, you can’t just go around killing people because you think they are scary … that is something that “poor little trayvon” should have considered when he attacked Zimmerman because Zimmerman was DOING HIS JOB. Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch captain (volunteer or not, it was still his job), trayvon was skulking around in the rain, in the dark, at 2 or 3 am, between buildings … he was not just walking down the street or on the sidewalk where he was plainly visible. Zimmerman did try to follow him on foot but returned to his vehicle when instructed to do so. Trayvon followed Zimmerman and attacked him from the rear, threw Zimmerman to the ground, sat on top of Zimmerman raining blows to Zimmerman’s face …. AND attempting to wrest Zimmerman’s weapon from him. Anyone tries that with me and, By God, I’ll shoot them dead too.
            Now – there is some truth for you, garnered from police statement issued publicly.
            The police had no reason to hold Zimmerman when this happened and there was still no reason to hold him when Racist Jackson and Sharpton tried to drag it all up again. The testimony of the prosecution’s own witnesses speak to the lack of evidence that Zimmerman committed any crime. Trayvon was a punk, thrown out of school, thrown out of his mother’s house, busted with drugs, stolen goods, and burglary tools.
            You make of it what you will, undoubtedly you will, and have, anyway, irrespective of any fact or truth.

          • LissieC

            Fact. Killerman did kill Tray. – he doesnt dispute that.
            Fact. His mom may have been pissed at him and told him to stay with his father during the course of his suspension.
            Fact. Zimmerman is unemployed and was so during the killing, he was a self promoted neighborhood watch.
            Fact. Former co-workers were freaked out by Killerman
            Fact. He didnt need to pursue Tray.
            Fact. He killed a teenager in cold blood. All the forensics and even KIllerman’s language and lies have proved it. Would you tell your best friend that you had to wrestle a gun from the kid when you also said that the kid was holding him down and covering his mouth and nose?

            Fact Tray only had two hands, so that explanation is ridiculous especially since he said his pants were falling off because of the tussle
            Fact Killerman had superficial injuries that were cleaned and treated with band aids.
            Fact Killerman has been caught in so many lies that I cant believe that any of you that stick up for him can be anything OTHER than racist.
            Fact The SPD has been called out on race profiling MANY times.

            Refute any of this.

          • LissieC

            Fact. Killerman did kill Tray. – he doesnt dispute that.
            Fact. His mom may have been pissed at him and told him to stay with his father during the course of his suspension.
            Fact. Zimmerman is unemployed and was so during the killing, he was a self promoted neighborhood watch.
            Fact. Former co-workers were freaked out by Killerman
            Fact. He didnt need to pursue Tray.
            Fact. He killed a teenager in cold blood. All the forensics and even KIllerman’s language and lies have proved it. Would you tell your best friend that you had to wrestle a gun from the kid when you also said that the kid was holding him down and covering his mouth and nose?

            Fact Tray only had two hands, so that explanation is ridiculous especially since he said his pants were falling off because of the tussle
            Fact Killerman had superficial injuries that were cleaned and treated with band aids.
            Fact Killerman has been caught in so many lies that I cant believe that any of you that stick up for him can be anything OTHER than racist.
            Fact The SPD has been called out on race profiling MANY times.

            Refute any of this.

          • LissieC

            Fact. Killerman did kill Tray. – he doesnt dispute that.
            Fact. His mom may have been pissed at him and told him to stay with his father during the course of his suspension.
            Fact. Zimmerman is unemployed and was so during the killing, he was a self promoted neighborhood watch.
            Fact. Former co-workers were freaked out by Killerman
            Fact. He didnt need to pursue Tray.
            Fact. He killed a teenager in cold blood. All the forensics and even KIllerman’s language and lies have proved it. Would you tell your best friend that you had to wrestle a gun from the kid when you also said that the kid was holding him down and covering his mouth and nose?

            Fact Tray only had two hands, so that explanation is ridiculous especially since he said his pants were falling off because of the tussle
            Fact Killerman had superficial injuries that were cleaned and treated with band aids.
            Fact Killerman has been caught in so many lies that I cant believe that any of you that stick up for him can be anything OTHER than racist.
            Fact The SPD has been called out on race profiling MANY times.

            Refute any of this.

          • BigUgly666

            I did not “describe” myself as anything – methinks you assume rather a bit too much….. just like I could from YOUR avatar.
            You prove your bias by using the term “Killerman” and it is clear that no amount of fact or truth will ever dissuade you from your chosen course.
            No, you can’t just go around killing people because you think they are scary … that is something that “poor little trayvon” should have considered when he attacked Zimmerman because Zimmerman was DOING HIS JOB. Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch captain (volunteer or not, it was still his job), trayvon was skulking around in the rain, in the dark, at 2 or 3 am, between buildings … he was not just walking down the street or on the sidewalk where he was plainly visible. Zimmerman did try to follow him on foot but returned to his vehicle when instructed to do so. Trayvon followed Zimmerman and attacked him from the rear, threw Zimmerman to the ground, sat on top of Zimmerman raining blows to Zimmerman’s face …. AND attempting to wrest Zimmerman’s weapon from him. Anyone tries that with me and, By God, I’ll shoot them dead too.
            Now – there is some truth for you, garnered from police statement issued publicly.
            The police had no reason to hold Zimmerman when this happened and there was still no reason to hold him when Racist Jackson and Sharpton tried to drag it all up again. The testimony of the prosecution’s own witnesses speak to the lack of evidence that Zimmerman committed any crime. Trayvon was a punk, thrown out of school, thrown out of his mother’s house, busted with drugs, stolen goods, and burglary tools.
            You make of it what you will, undoubtedly you will, and have, anyway, irrespective of any fact or truth.

        • BigUgly666

          My comment is in reference to the remainder of his life and the death threats he has received … it has nothing to do with the case now being heard. Please READ the comments.

        • BigUgly666

          My comment is in reference to the remainder of his life and the death threats he has received … it has nothing to do with the case now being heard. Please READ the comments.

      • LissieC

        Do you think there may be a reason his attorneys advised him not to do this during the Grand Jury testimony?

      • LissieC

        Do you think there may be a reason his attorneys advised him not to do this during the Grand Jury testimony?

    • gary

      Not after he sues all their asses! He should be able to disappear and live a comfortable life. NBC, Jesse jackass, al Sharptooth, spick Lee, the new black panthas and Barry Soetoro should all be named in the civil suit!

    • gary

      Not after he sues all their asses! He should be able to disappear and live a comfortable life. NBC, Jesse jackass, al Sharptooth, spick Lee, the new black panthas and Barry Soetoro should all be named in the civil suit!

  • Don Wayne

    well, unfortunately mr. Zimmerman will never be able to go home and lead a life at all after this, between the death threats, the media giving out his personal info, including his ssn, and the racial tensions created by two grossly fake reverends and a race bating president. GZ will have a very hard time leading a decent or normal life for many years.

  • bjreg3

    Game over! Everyone go home.

  • bjreg3

    Game over! Everyone go home.

  • bjreg3

    Game over! Everyone go home.

  • gfmgfy

    This is all political. If Zimmerman is found not guilty then the likes of Jesse Jackson Jr. and Al Sharpton will go down there and whip up all the blacks that can’t think for themselves into a frenzy telling them how racists this whole thing is. If there were evidence that Zimmerman was a murderer he would have been arrested almost immediately instead of how long, a month or more. Political pandering is all this is about, nothing more. This would be a really good joke if it wasn’t for real. It is a joke, but not for Zimmerman unfortunately.

  • gfmgfy

    This is all political. If Zimmerman is found not guilty then the likes of Jesse Jackson Jr. and Al Sharpton will go down there and whip up all the blacks that can’t think for themselves into a frenzy telling them how racists this whole thing is. If there were evidence that Zimmerman was a murderer he would have been arrested almost immediately instead of how long, a month or more. Political pandering is all this is about, nothing more. This would be a really good joke if it wasn’t for real. It is a joke, but not for Zimmerman unfortunately.

  • gfmgfy

    This is all political. If Zimmerman is found not guilty then the likes of Jesse Jackson Jr. and Al Sharpton will go down there and whip up all the blacks that can’t think for themselves into a frenzy telling them how racists this whole thing is. If there were evidence that Zimmerman was a murderer he would have been arrested almost immediately instead of how long, a month or more. Political pandering is all this is about, nothing more. This would be a really good joke if it wasn’t for real. It is a joke, but not for Zimmerman unfortunately.

  • StingRay

    Donald, you are aptly named. Your columns are not only very astute, but also a “joy” to read!

  • StingRay

    Donald, you are aptly named. Your columns are not only very astute, but also a “joy” to read!

  • StingRay

    Donald, you are aptly named. Your columns are not only very astute, but also a “joy” to read!

  • giant33

    You never know what A- hole jury will do-OJ— Antony. The women on the jury might be afraid they will be called racist.

  • giant33

    You never know what A- hole jury will do-OJ— Antony. The women on the jury might be afraid they will be called racist.

  • giant33

    You never know what A- hole jury will do-OJ— Antony. The women on the jury might be afraid they will be called racist.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/SouthTexasPrepper Raymond59

    The Prosecution is bungling this Case so badly that they’ll be the laughing stock of the State of Florida when it’s over. Pretty much every Witness that they’ve put on has scored points for the Defense. When the Prosecution gets finished and the Defense gets it’s “turn at bat,” they will probably rest their Case and move for giving the Case to the Jury. Marcia Clark (Lead Prosecutor for the O.J. Simpson case) could be a better Job that this. And she lost that Case.

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      How do you figure the prosecution bungled it? How can you bungle something that doesn’t even exist in the first place? They have NOTHING, so they have to go through the charade of pretending to have something.

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/SouthTexasPrepper Raymond59

        Donald, I understand what you’re saying. This entire Trial is just one, big Comedy skit! From what I’ve read about this Case, George Zimmerman was in every right to protect himself. Treyvon Martin made the mistake of attacking George Zimmerman and paid for it with his life. I’m under no illusions about that. However, this entire Case is a big waste of time and money on the part of the State of Florida. I know that it is political motivated to calm the masses. However, everyone knows what the outcome will be. Acquittal for George Zimmerman and mass riots across the Country. Honestly, if the riots do happen, the individuals (that includes the “Civil Rights leadership” and the “News Media”) that brought this Case will bear full responsibility for not using common sense to quell Public Opinion and the riots, deaths, and the property damage that will occur. “Happy Independence Day to You and Your Family!”

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      How do you figure the prosecution bungled it? How can you bungle something that doesn’t even exist in the first place? They have NOTHING, so they have to go through the charade of pretending to have something.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/SouthTexasPrepper Raymond59

    The Prosecution is bungling this Case so badly that they’ll be the laughing stock of the State of Florida when it’s over. Pretty much every Witness that they’ve put on has scored points for the Defense. When the Prosecution gets finished and the Defense gets it’s “turn at bat,” they will probably rest their Case and move for giving the Case to the Jury. Marcia Clark (Lead Prosecutor for the O.J. Simpson case) could be a better Job that this. And she lost that Case.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/SouthTexasPrepper Raymond59

    The Prosecution is bungling this Case so badly that they’ll be the laughing stock of the State of Florida when it’s over. Pretty much every Witness that they’ve put on has scored points for the Defense. When the Prosecution gets finished and the Defense gets it’s “turn at bat,” they will probably rest their Case and move for giving the Case to the Jury. Marcia Clark (Lead Prosecutor for the O.J. Simpson case) could be a better Job that this. And she lost that Case.

  • Ron Mackay

    Will the Black racist call Carter an Uncle Tom now?

    • LissieC

      He repeated what Zimm said

    • LissieC

      He repeated what Zimm said

  • Ron Mackay

    Will the Black racist call Carter an Uncle Tom now?

  • CJMcRat

    I used to be a supervisor with a delivery company. Bob, who did a great job for me, messed up one day in August and bumped an empty parked school bus. I was called to investigate and I had Bob written up with a 2 week suspension before his truck engine had cooled. Two days later the District Manager called and had my boss fire Bob. The regional Union Vice President, who was personally handled the Union Grievance to reinstate Bob, called me a few days after that and asked some questions about the accident and the punishment that I gave. After about ten minutes on the phone he went quiet and then asked if Bob was a good worker. I answered all of the questions honestly. The Union VP then went quiet again. I asked him what was wrong, and he replied that he was confused and could not decide if I was that stupid, or that smart. I asked what he meant and he told me that the way that I had written Bob up meant that the Union was almost assured to win the Grievance and Bob would get to keep his job. This happened 7 years ago. Although I have transferred, I have never regretted my actions.

    Could it be? Are the people involved with the Zimmerman trail that smart? Is it possible that the court personnel are going through the act knowing that George Zimmerman will come out of this OK? This trial is not about whether a shooting was justified or not. This trial is about ending the stand your ground law. This trial is about letting society slip further into moral bankruptcy. An armed society is a polite society.

    In one case the lesson we were expected to learn was, “Don’t have an accident.” In the other case are we to learn, “Don’t defend yourself because we will destroy your family and your finances even if you are in the right?”

  • CJMcRat

    I used to be a supervisor with a delivery company. Bob, who did a great job for me, messed up one day in August and bumped an empty parked school bus. I was called to investigate and I had Bob written up with a 2 week suspension before his truck engine had cooled. Two days later the District Manager called and had my boss fire Bob. The regional Union Vice President, who was personally handled the Union Grievance to reinstate Bob, called me a few days after that and asked some questions about the accident and the punishment that I gave. After about ten minutes on the phone he went quiet and then asked if Bob was a good worker. I answered all of the questions honestly. The Union VP then went quiet again. I asked him what was wrong, and he replied that he was confused and could not decide if I was that stupid, or that smart. I asked what he meant and he told me that the way that I had written Bob up meant that the Union was almost assured to win the Grievance and Bob would get to keep his job. This happened 7 years ago. Although I have transferred, I have never regretted my actions.

    Could it be? Are the people involved with the Zimmerman trail that smart? Is it possible that the court personnel are going through the act knowing that George Zimmerman will come out of this OK? This trial is not about whether a shooting was justified or not. This trial is about ending the stand your ground law. This trial is about letting society slip further into moral bankruptcy. An armed society is a polite society.

    In one case the lesson we were expected to learn was, “Don’t have an accident.” In the other case are we to learn, “Don’t defend yourself because we will destroy your family and your finances even if you are in the right?”

  • CJMcRat

    I used to be a supervisor with a delivery company. Bob, who did a great job for me, messed up one day in August and bumped an empty parked school bus. I was called to investigate and I had Bob written up with a 2 week suspension before his truck engine had cooled. Two days later the District Manager called and had my boss fire Bob. The regional Union Vice President, who was personally handled the Union Grievance to reinstate Bob, called me a few days after that and asked some questions about the accident and the punishment that I gave. After about ten minutes on the phone he went quiet and then asked if Bob was a good worker. I answered all of the questions honestly. The Union VP then went quiet again. I asked him what was wrong, and he replied that he was confused and could not decide if I was that stupid, or that smart. I asked what he meant and he told me that the way that I had written Bob up meant that the Union was almost assured to win the Grievance and Bob would get to keep his job. This happened 7 years ago. Although I have transferred, I have never regretted my actions.

    Could it be? Are the people involved with the Zimmerman trail that smart? Is it possible that the court personnel are going through the act knowing that George Zimmerman will come out of this OK? This trial is not about whether a shooting was justified or not. This trial is about ending the stand your ground law. This trial is about letting society slip further into moral bankruptcy. An armed society is a polite society.

    In one case the lesson we were expected to learn was, “Don’t have an accident.” In the other case are we to learn, “Don’t defend yourself because we will destroy your family and your finances even if you are in the right?”

  • foxxybey

    Jodi, your right this is a racist display for the benefit of the leftist idiot’s that always use the race card when possible, had one racist witness and now a person who knows Z isn’t guilty of anything but just defended himself against a black thug who wanted to show how tough he was and he got what he deserved.

  • foxxybey

    Jodi, your right this is a racist display for the benefit of the leftist idiot’s that always use the race card when possible, had one racist witness and now a person who knows Z isn’t guilty of anything but just defended himself against a black thug who wanted to show how tough he was and he got what he deserved.

  • foxxybey

    Jodi, your right this is a racist display for the benefit of the leftist idiot’s that always use the race card when possible, had one racist witness and now a person who knows Z isn’t guilty of anything but just defended himself against a black thug who wanted to show how tough he was and he got what he deserved.

  • suz

    I truly believe him to be innocent . Why are they still showing the 12 yr old picture of Travon instead of a more recent thug.

  • suz

    I truly believe him to be innocent . Why are they still showing the 12 yr old picture of Travon instead of a more recent thug.

  • suz

    I truly believe him to be innocent . Why are they still showing the 12 yr old picture of Travon instead of a more recent thug.

  • gary

    The prosecution knows this trial is pure BS! That is why they keep bringing witness, after witness, who will get GZ acquitted! Surely they can’t be that stupid.

  • gary

    The prosecution knows this trial is pure BS! That is why they keep bringing witness, after witness, who will get GZ acquitted! Surely they can’t be that stupid.

  • gary

    The prosecution knows this trial is pure BS! That is why they keep bringing witness, after witness, who will get GZ acquitted! Surely they can’t be that stupid.

  • floridarooster

    Zimmerman should walk, but we will pay dearly for his innocent verdict because the race hustlers (Jackson, Sharpton, Obama, etc.) will incite riot by hordes of black people. It is OK for blacks to shoot blacks, and blacks to shoot whites, but it is always racism when whites (or even hispanics) shoot blacks.

    • LissieC

      Zimmerman identifies himself as hispanic.

    • LissieC

      Zimmerman identifies himself as hispanic.

    • LissieC

      Zimmerman identifies himself as hispanic.

  • floridarooster

    Zimmerman should walk, but we will pay dearly for his innocent verdict because the race hustlers (Jackson, Sharpton, Obama, etc.) will incite riot by hordes of black people. It is OK for blacks to shoot blacks, and blacks to shoot whites, but it is always racism when whites (or even hispanics) shoot blacks.

  • floridarooster

    Zimmerman should walk, but we will pay dearly for his innocent verdict because the race hustlers (Jackson, Sharpton, Obama, etc.) will incite riot by hordes of black people. It is OK for blacks to shoot blacks, and blacks to shoot whites, but it is always racism when whites (or even hispanics) shoot blacks.

  • gw111

    I have been reading Doug’s post for quite sometime now and believe him to be a no nonsense person. The total stupidity of this case against GZ is an outrage and we all know it. I think, however, we have to be careful and not let the real criminals here get away without taking responsibility for their actions.

    TM was a 17 year old kid who if he wasn’t already a thug was well on his way to becoming a first class thug. WHY??? Because we have allowed ourselves to become a nation of PC bleeding heart no brain society. In fact much of this PC society continually looks for excuses for bad behavior and wants to blame it on someone other then the one who is guilty. The black community is going backwards. History shows that blacks were progressing in this country ( be it way to slowly) from the end of the civil war to the 60′s. We finally reached a point where segregation had to be addressed. The laws were set into motion that made segregation a crime( it already was except in the south). Since then JJ, AS, CW, MW and in general the NAACP have used the guilt of white America to create a false scenario that welfare, public housing, affirmative action is what the black community needed to get ahead, (just look at our inner cities and especially Detroit). For everyone who was able to get himself out of the slums we have had 10s possibly hundreds that are now caught in the total welfare dependent state.
    There is a growing belief among many in this country (both black and white) that blacks are inferior. The evidence is not there when you look at those who are able to get out of the slums. But when you create a dependent society then you create the illusion that some are just too inferior to make it on their own. You white people need to take notice too. A growing number of whites are starting to fit the class know as white trash. Why? Because they are inferior. NO! But because they too have discovered the welfare state and become dependent on someone else for their survival.
    In short all those who feed this nonsense that we need more government assistance need to be held accountable for what they have created. JJ if you started out with good intentions you need to man up and realize you are the problem. The murders of black on black in this country are on your head. Maybe you need to see the error of your ways and seek real solutions.

  • gw111

    I have been reading Doug’s post for quite sometime now and believe him to be a no nonsense person. The total stupidity of this case against GZ is an outrage and we all know it. I think, however, we have to be careful and not let the real criminals here get away without taking responsibility for their actions.

    TM was a 17 year old kid who if he wasn’t already a thug was well on his way to becoming a first class thug. WHY??? Because we have allowed ourselves to become a nation of PC bleeding heart no brain society. In fact much of this PC society continually looks for excuses for bad behavior and wants to blame it on someone other then the one who is guilty. The black community is going backwards. History shows that blacks were progressing in this country ( be it way to slowly) from the end of the civil war to the 60′s. We finally reached a point where segregation had to be addressed. The laws were set into motion that made segregation a crime( it already was except in the south). Since then JJ, AS, CW, MW and in general the NAACP have used the guilt of white America to create a false scenario that welfare, public housing, affirmative action is what the black community needed to get ahead, (just look at our inner cities and especially Detroit). For everyone who was able to get himself out of the slums we have had 10s possibly hundreds that are now caught in the total welfare dependent state.
    There is a growing belief among many in this country (both black and white) that blacks are inferior. The evidence is not there when you look at those who are able to get out of the slums. But when you create a dependent society then you create the illusion that some are just too inferior to make it on their own. You white people need to take notice too. A growing number of whites are starting to fit the class know as white trash. Why? Because they are inferior. NO! But because they too have discovered the welfare state and become dependent on someone else for their survival.
    In short all those who feed this nonsense that we need more government assistance need to be held accountable for what they have created. JJ if you started out with good intentions you need to man up and realize you are the problem. The murders of black on black in this country are on your head. Maybe you need to see the error of your ways and seek real solutions.

  • gw111

    I have been reading Doug’s post for quite sometime now and believe him to be a no nonsense person. The total stupidity of this case against GZ is an outrage and we all know it. I think, however, we have to be careful and not let the real criminals here get away without taking responsibility for their actions.

    TM was a 17 year old kid who if he wasn’t already a thug was well on his way to becoming a first class thug. WHY??? Because we have allowed ourselves to become a nation of PC bleeding heart no brain society. In fact much of this PC society continually looks for excuses for bad behavior and wants to blame it on someone other then the one who is guilty. The black community is going backwards. History shows that blacks were progressing in this country ( be it way to slowly) from the end of the civil war to the 60′s. We finally reached a point where segregation had to be addressed. The laws were set into motion that made segregation a crime( it already was except in the south). Since then JJ, AS, CW, MW and in general the NAACP have used the guilt of white America to create a false scenario that welfare, public housing, affirmative action is what the black community needed to get ahead, (just look at our inner cities and especially Detroit). For everyone who was able to get himself out of the slums we have had 10s possibly hundreds that are now caught in the total welfare dependent state.
    There is a growing belief among many in this country (both black and white) that blacks are inferior. The evidence is not there when you look at those who are able to get out of the slums. But when you create a dependent society then you create the illusion that some are just too inferior to make it on their own. You white people need to take notice too. A growing number of whites are starting to fit the class know as white trash. Why? Because they are inferior. NO! But because they too have discovered the welfare state and become dependent on someone else for their survival.
    In short all those who feed this nonsense that we need more government assistance need to be held accountable for what they have created. JJ if you started out with good intentions you need to man up and realize you are the problem. The murders of black on black in this country are on your head. Maybe you need to see the error of your ways and seek real solutions.

    • Allen Arnold

      You are so right about the government creating dependency. When I was only 50, I had a heart problem and had surgery, but there were serious complications afterwards that left me unable to work. I had to apply for disability and after three years, I was able to get it. I’m glad I live in a country that has such a thing. I’d be dead without it, but there was a big price to pay. I became very depressed, I felt guilty and that this was my fault. I had to get counseling. I hated being dependent on the government although I was glad to have the help. I felt useless. To outward appearances, I was physically able and that made it hard to explain my situation. I felt my life was over and that no woman would want me without a job. I don’t understand why anyone would purposely try to get on the government dole. It has too many insidious and destructive effects on the human soul.

    • Allen Arnold

      You are so right about the government creating dependency. When I was only 50, I had a heart problem and had surgery, but there were serious complications afterwards that left me unable to work. I had to apply for disability and after three years, I was able to get it. I’m glad I live in a country that has such a thing. I’d be dead without it, but there was a big price to pay. I became very depressed, I felt guilty and that this was my fault. I had to get counseling. I hated being dependent on the government although I was glad to have the help. I felt useless. To outward appearances, I was physically able and that made it hard to explain my situation. I felt my life was over and that no woman would want me without a job. I don’t understand why anyone would purposely try to get on the government dole. It has too many insidious and destructive effects on the human soul.

    • Allen Arnold

      You are so right about the government creating dependency. When I was only 50, I had a heart problem and had surgery, but there were serious complications afterwards that left me unable to work. I had to apply for disability and after three years, I was able to get it. I’m glad I live in a country that has such a thing. I’d be dead without it, but there was a big price to pay. I became very depressed, I felt guilty and that this was my fault. I had to get counseling. I hated being dependent on the government although I was glad to have the help. I felt useless. To outward appearances, I was physically able and that made it hard to explain my situation. I felt my life was over and that no woman would want me without a job. I don’t understand why anyone would purposely try to get on the government dole. It has too many insidious and destructive effects on the human soul.

    • LissieC

      I love how you people assume that Tray would have ended up a thug. We have no way of knowing how he would have turned out do we? I was suspended from school for being high a LONG time ago, I now work at a Big 4 accounting firm. I dont smoke pot anymore personally since my 20′s, but I know that a lot of my associates do, as well as partners of the firm. They are far from thugs.

      • gw111

        Lissie I am glad you were able to turn your life around. I too was on that road like you and not until someone told me I was the stupid one for wasting my life did I ever change. In my post I wanted to make the point that there are others to blame for Travons death other then GZ. Those who would not tell Travon his life was a mess and he needed to change. At 17 he could of been helped and he should have. Too many were making excuses for his bad behavior. If people had been making excuses for your bad behavior would you have changed. Maybe, and maybe Travon would have also. We will never know. The point of Travons death is many are tired of being victims of the inner city thugs and GZ was one of them. There will never be justice for Travons mom. Perhaps we need a new approach to our youth, tell them bad behavior is bad and STUPID. And tell them your story on how they can change and have a great life.
        Not sure why you said “you people”. My comments were my own and I am sorry if I implied Travon had only one destiny. Perhaps he would of done as you did, but I think he wasn’t getting the right help.

        • LissieC

          My point went WAY over your head. If he had been shooting up and doing all these terrible things that people have no idea that he was doing but assume he was doing then I would agree, he would have been a thug. Killerman knew nothing of this boy. only that he didnt recognize him and he was black. He profiled, he stalked. Most people wear their hoods when its raining.

          My original point was that smoking weed does not a thug make. Alcohol is much more potent and its legal. Besides the point that he hadnt smoked in weeks according to the coroner because the levels were so low. THC stays in your system for a month or so. Tray was NOT high.

          • Kathy W

            I agree, Lissie, that Tray should not be portrayed as a thug and that he didn’t do anything a normal red-blooded American boy at that age might have done. To do that to him is adding pain to his family in a way that can not be justified. The family, more than anybody, will suffer over this for the rest of their lives.

          • Kathy W

            I agree, Lissie, that Tray should not be portrayed as a thug and that he didn’t do anything a normal red-blooded American boy at that age might have done. To do that to him is adding pain to his family in a way that can not be justified. The family, more than anybody, will suffer over this for the rest of their lives.

        • LissieC

          My point went WAY over your head. If he had been shooting up and doing all these terrible things that people have no idea that he was doing but assume he was doing then I would agree, he would have been a thug. Killerman knew nothing of this boy. only that he didnt recognize him and he was black. He profiled, he stalked. Most people wear their hoods when its raining.

          My original point was that smoking weed does not a thug make. Alcohol is much more potent and its legal. Besides the point that he hadnt smoked in weeks according to the coroner because the levels were so low. THC stays in your system for a month or so. Tray was NOT high.

        • LissieC

          My point went WAY over your head. If he had been shooting up and doing all these terrible things that people have no idea that he was doing but assume he was doing then I would agree, he would have been a thug. Killerman knew nothing of this boy. only that he didnt recognize him and he was black. He profiled, he stalked. Most people wear their hoods when its raining.

          My original point was that smoking weed does not a thug make. Alcohol is much more potent and its legal. Besides the point that he hadnt smoked in weeks according to the coroner because the levels were so low. THC stays in your system for a month or so. Tray was NOT high.

      • gw111

        Lissie I am glad you were able to turn your life around. I too was on that road like you and not until someone told me I was the stupid one for wasting my life did I ever change. In my post I wanted to make the point that there are others to blame for Travons death other then GZ. Those who would not tell Travon his life was a mess and he needed to change. At 17 he could of been helped and he should have. Too many were making excuses for his bad behavior. If people had been making excuses for your bad behavior would you have changed. Maybe, and maybe Travon would have also. We will never know. The point of Travons death is many are tired of being victims of the inner city thugs and GZ was one of them. There will never be justice for Travons mom. Perhaps we need a new approach to our youth, tell them bad behavior is bad and STUPID. And tell them your story on how they can change and have a great life.
        Not sure why you said “you people”. My comments were my own and I am sorry if I implied Travon had only one destiny. Perhaps he would of done as you did, but I think he wasn’t getting the right help.

      • gw111

        Lissie I am glad you were able to turn your life around. I too was on that road like you and not until someone told me I was the stupid one for wasting my life did I ever change. In my post I wanted to make the point that there are others to blame for Travons death other then GZ. Those who would not tell Travon his life was a mess and he needed to change. At 17 he could of been helped and he should have. Too many were making excuses for his bad behavior. If people had been making excuses for your bad behavior would you have changed. Maybe, and maybe Travon would have also. We will never know. The point of Travons death is many are tired of being victims of the inner city thugs and GZ was one of them. There will never be justice for Travons mom. Perhaps we need a new approach to our youth, tell them bad behavior is bad and STUPID. And tell them your story on how they can change and have a great life.
        Not sure why you said “you people”. My comments were my own and I am sorry if I implied Travon had only one destiny. Perhaps he would of done as you did, but I think he wasn’t getting the right help.

    • LissieC

      I love how you people assume that Tray would have ended up a thug. We have no way of knowing how he would have turned out do we? I was suspended from school for being high a LONG time ago, I now work at a Big 4 accounting firm. I dont smoke pot anymore personally since my 20′s, but I know that a lot of my associates do, as well as partners of the firm. They are far from thugs.

    • LissieC

      I love how you people assume that Tray would have ended up a thug. We have no way of knowing how he would have turned out do we? I was suspended from school for being high a LONG time ago, I now work at a Big 4 accounting firm. I dont smoke pot anymore personally since my 20′s, but I know that a lot of my associates do, as well as partners of the firm. They are far from thugs.

  • sovereigntyofone

    Captain Carter I salute you sir for doing the right thing, the American thing.
    Right or wrong is not determined by skin color, it is based on ethics, morals, rule of law and character of which this captain has all of those.
    Just my 2 cents worth.

  • sovereigntyofone

    Captain Carter I salute you sir for doing the right thing, the American thing.
    Right or wrong is not determined by skin color, it is based on ethics, morals, rule of law and character of which this captain has all of those.
    Just my 2 cents worth.

  • Nameless App 1989

    If Zimmerman is found not guilty (and he most likely will be), I’d strongly consider gearing up for civil unrest.

    Last week, Obama ordered 15,000 Russian troops. May be more later, but this could be the Martial Law that we dread.

  • RhettButler1

    It seems a case of barratry is in order.

  • MARK FREDERICK

    I’m positive RESIDENT ODUMBA had a major part in the hiding of Martin’s criminal record as well as his not so formal school records. He also warned the police not to answer questions as far as his police activity. Jesse Jackson is the mouth piece of the NAACP and the SCLC and his taking part in anything racial is nothing but a joke.

    • LissieC

      Yeah, because he has so much time to worry about a podunk case in Florida rather than international issues and wars, not to mention finance and a whole lot of other things. All Obama did was answer a question by a reporter at a press conference that had nothing to do with this case and express his sympathies to Tray’s family. He ended the statement by saying that it was a local case, not a national one, and should be handled as such.

    • LissieC

      Yeah, because he has so much time to worry about a podunk case in Florida rather than international issues and wars, not to mention finance and a whole lot of other things. All Obama did was answer a question by a reporter at a press conference that had nothing to do with this case and express his sympathies to Tray’s family. He ended the statement by saying that it was a local case, not a national one, and should be handled as such.

  • MARK FREDERICK

    I’m positive RESIDENT ODUMBA had a major part in the hiding of Martin’s criminal record as well as his not so formal school records. He also warned the police not to answer questions as far as his police activity. Jesse Jackson is the mouth piece of the NAACP and the SCLC and his taking part in anything racial is nothing but a joke.

  • MARK FREDERICK

    I’m positive RESIDENT ODUMBA had a major part in the hiding of Martin’s criminal record as well as his not so formal school records. He also warned the police not to answer questions as far as his police activity. Jesse Jackson is the mouth piece of the NAACP and the SCLC and his taking part in anything racial is nothing but a joke.

  • mike

    When the riots start this just might be the excuse that Obama needs to declare marshal law

  • mike

    When the riots start this just might be the excuse that Obama needs to declare marshal law

    • schlang

      That is probably what he wants that is why high level adviser likely mandated it. Knowing that Zimmerman would walk because he is not guilty, they realized that this would spawn the race war that they have been looking for. “Never let a good crisis go to waste”!!!

    • schlang

      That is probably what he wants that is why high level adviser likely mandated it. Knowing that Zimmerman would walk because he is not guilty, they realized that this would spawn the race war that they have been looking for. “Never let a good crisis go to waste”!!!

    • schlang

      That is probably what he wants that is why high level adviser likely mandated it. Knowing that Zimmerman would walk because he is not guilty, they realized that this would spawn the race war that they have been looking for. “Never let a good crisis go to waste”!!!

    • LissieC

      I really dont know why people are assuming there are going to be riots if Zimm is aquitted (which by the way as many people pointed out when Casey was let go does not mean not guilty)

  • mike

    When the riots start this just might be the excuse that Obama needs to declare marshal law

  • reggiec

    They should have known their case was in question when the first state prosecutor it was assigned to refused to take the case.

    • LissieC

      What about Zimm lying to the first judge? What about his first lawyers quitting? They cant say why, but since it was so close to the time that he was caught lying to the judge it was because he was lying to them about his finances as well. i.e., he never intended to pay attorney fees. Since they were pro bono so ASSIGNED to the case they had every reason to quit, but if the case is so cut and dry they would have stayed on the case making a name for themselves right?

  • Ajean72

    Just when you thought this was a racist issue among blacks, this man comes in and shows that they don’t all think this way. It gives me hope for the country.

    • schlang

      That is because this man has an education and thus is beyond the divisive, racial bias that those in the lower end of the black community are susceptible to!!

    • schlang

      That is because this man has an education and thus is beyond the divisive, racial bias that those in the lower end of the black community are susceptible to!!

    • schlang

      That is because this man has an education and thus is beyond the divisive, racial bias that those in the lower end of the black community are susceptible to!!

  • Ajean72

    Just when you thought this was a racist issue among blacks, this man comes in and shows that they don’t all think this way. It gives me hope for the country.

  • Dangit

    I am white. My daughter is Black, and her Husband is Hispanic. WE all think Zimmerman is NOT GUILTY. Are we three all racist..NO! Three different skin colors , but the same opinion. Stop with Racist slant on this case. It was self defence…Period. Martin was a PUNK.

  • Dangit

    I am white. My daughter is Black, and her Husband is Hispanic. WE all think Zimmerman is NOT GUILTY. Are we three all racist..NO! Three different skin colors , but the same opinion. Stop with Racist slant on this case. It was self defence…Period. Martin was a PUNK.

  • Dangit

    I am white. My daughter is Black, and her Husband is Hispanic. WE all think Zimmerman is NOT GUILTY. Are we three all racist..NO! Three different skin colors , but the same opinion. Stop with Racist slant on this case. It was self defence…Period. Martin was a PUNK.

    • LissieC

      Maybe he was. How did Zimm know that though when he stalked him?

    • LissieC

      Maybe he was. How did Zimm know that though when he stalked him?

  • Kathy W

    A lot of mind reading here. I’ll have to ask the men in my family about that secret code. Carter appears to be sympathetic to Zimmerman and maybe believes in his innocence and, as an attorney, likely understands that this case was grossly overcharged but he couldn’t know what happened on the night in question. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think Zimmerman was out to get anybody that night but you can’t chase people, even when you’re a security guard with a fleeing shoplifter, or you will end up on the wrong side of the law, unfortunately. The trust is just not there with the public on the good guy’s side no matter what race you are.

    • Madmax1450

      Kathy I got news for you lady security can chase a fleeing shoplifter. I know this for a fact as I have seen it happen many times in Oregon and here in Oklahoma, and the fleeing shoplifter was tackled to the ground. I do not know where you live or what but you are wrong about case Zimmerman did not chase Martian.

      • Kathy W

        I should’ve said, following, not chasing. I worked at a mall in Michigan. Any security guard who made a move to apprehend a shoplifter was a hero in my eyes but was fired forthwith and then had to deal with the legal system. Michigan is not a cop friendly place. I don’t know what the atmosphere is like in Florida.

        • schlang

          Apprehend and follow are not the same thing!

        • LissieC

          Security guards wear uniforms.

      • Kathy W

        I should’ve said, following, not chasing. I worked at a mall in Michigan. Any security guard who made a move to apprehend a shoplifter was a hero in my eyes but was fired forthwith and then had to deal with the legal system. Michigan is not a cop friendly place. I don’t know what the atmosphere is like in Florida.

      • Kathy W

        I should’ve said, following, not chasing. I worked at a mall in Michigan. Any security guard who made a move to apprehend a shoplifter was a hero in my eyes but was fired forthwith and then had to deal with the legal system. Michigan is not a cop friendly place. I don’t know what the atmosphere is like in Florida.

      • LissieC

        Zimm is not a security guard. He is a self appointed watch captain. In other words unemployed and living with his Mommy, with his wife no less

        • Madmax1450

          And what does that have to do with anything. Zimmerman did not pursue martian, he followed him and martian attacked him and attempted to grab his gun while pounding him in face and slamming his head into ground, I would have shot the little punk myself if it was me. I carry a gun and have no problem using it if someone attacks me or I feel my life is threatened.

          • LissieC

            He didnt follow, which is basically the same thing as pursuing or even stalking. And why would you believe a proven liar?

          • LissieC

            He didnt follow, which is basically the same thing as pursuing or even stalking. And why would you believe a proven liar?

          • Madmax1450

            I do not believe that Zimmerman is a liar. It is somewhat obvious that you are most likely a liberal. The main problem with liberal wackos is if their brains were made of gasoline they would not
            have enough fuel to power an ant’s motorcycle around a track
            inside of a cheerio. Also you can take a liberals mind, multiply it 10,000times, shove it up an ant’s ass and it would still roll around like a b-b in a box car

          • Madmax1450

            I do not believe that Zimmerman is a liar. It is somewhat obvious that you are most likely a liberal. The main problem with liberal wackos is if their brains were made of gasoline they would not
            have enough fuel to power an ant’s motorcycle around a track
            inside of a cheerio. Also you can take a liberals mind, multiply it 10,000times, shove it up an ant’s ass and it would still roll around like a b-b in a box car

        • Madmax1450

          And what does that have to do with anything. Zimmerman did not pursue martian, he followed him and martian attacked him and attempted to grab his gun while pounding him in face and slamming his head into ground, I would have shot the little punk myself if it was me. I carry a gun and have no problem using it if someone attacks me or I feel my life is threatened.

    • Madmax1450

      Kathy I got news for you lady security can chase a fleeing shoplifter. I know this for a fact as I have seen it happen many times in Oregon and here in Oklahoma, and the fleeing shoplifter was tackled to the ground. I do not know where you live or what but you are wrong about case Zimmerman did not chase Martian.

    • Madmax1450

      Kathy I got news for you lady security can chase a fleeing shoplifter. I know this for a fact as I have seen it happen many times in Oregon and here in Oklahoma, and the fleeing shoplifter was tackled to the ground. I do not know where you live or what but you are wrong about case Zimmerman did not chase Martian.

    • grumpy3625

      My son had once worked for Wal-Mart. He was one of those guys you see collecting the carts. One day he chased after a shoplifter and tackled him when nobody took any action. The man was arrested and my son was chewed out by his supervisor for leaving his cart collecting duties for the moment. My son then chewed out the supervisor and quit on the spot. I’m proud of him.

      I guess in la la land you’re supposed to let the criminals run wild.

      My point is: you don’t know exactly what happened and you should let the facts unfold before you interject your own biased opinion.

    • grumpy3625

      My son had once worked for Wal-Mart. He was one of those guys you see collecting the carts. One day he chased after a shoplifter and tackled him when nobody took any action. The man was arrested and my son was chewed out by his supervisor for leaving his cart collecting duties for the moment. My son then chewed out the supervisor and quit on the spot. I’m proud of him.

      I guess in la la land you’re supposed to let the criminals run wild.

      My point is: you don’t know exactly what happened and you should let the facts unfold before you interject your own biased opinion.

    • grumpy3625

      My son had once worked for Wal-Mart. He was one of those guys you see collecting the carts. One day he chased after a shoplifter and tackled him when nobody took any action. The man was arrested and my son was chewed out by his supervisor for leaving his cart collecting duties for the moment. My son then chewed out the supervisor and quit on the spot. I’m proud of him.

      I guess in la la land you’re supposed to let the criminals run wild.

      My point is: you don’t know exactly what happened and you should let the facts unfold before you interject your own biased opinion.

  • http://www.LuckyLuxtonAffiliateMarketing.com/ Keith “Lucky” Luxton

    The only problem with George getting a multi million dollar payment for malicious prosecution is that the wrong people will be paying. The suit will be against the court in Fl. Rather than the individual district attorneys involved. This is a political case and must have been pushed by politicos. They should be individually prosecuted for maliciously ruining GZ’s life.

    • grumpy3625

      You bet. When you sue the government for wrongdoing the correct way to do it is to target those who actually initiated the action and then include the organization they work for: John Doe v. Suzy Q; Slim Jim; et al.

    • grumpy3625

      You bet. When you sue the government for wrongdoing the correct way to do it is to target those who actually initiated the action and then include the organization they work for: John Doe v. Suzy Q; Slim Jim; et al.

  • http://www.LuckyLuxtonAffiliateMarketing.com/ Keith “Lucky” Luxton

    The only problem with George getting a multi million dollar payment for malicious prosecution is that the wrong people will be paying. The suit will be against the court in Fl. Rather than the individual district attorneys involved. This is a political case and must have been pushed by politicos. They should be individually prosecuted for maliciously ruining GZ’s life.

  • http://marcchamot.blogspot.com/ Marc Chamot

    They are looking into DNA to railroad this guy…

    • LissieC

      Yeah, because DNA doesnt prove anything.

  • http://marcchamot.blogspot.com/ Marc Chamot

    They are looking into DNA to railroad this guy…

  • sundown

    I for one hope Mr.Zimmerman will be able to get on with his life after this is all o ver.I have lived in this area of florida for over 40 years and believe me it’s not a safe area and I see that he is being used for a scapegoat. And why is Travon’s father using his phone while they are talking about his son? I’m sorry he lost his son but am upset that they don’t want to tell the truth about Travon,he was not the PERFECT CHILD and I know that doesn’t mean he should have been killed but it you are going to dig up all the dirt on one then it should be allowed to do so on the other one.

    • grumpy3625

      Yep, fair’s fair.

    • grumpy3625

      Yep, fair’s fair.

    • grumpy3625

      Yep, fair’s fair.

  • sundown

    I for one hope Mr.Zimmerman will be able to get on with his life after this is all o ver.I have lived in this area of florida for over 40 years and believe me it’s not a safe area and I see that he is being used for a scapegoat. And why is Travon’s father using his phone while they are talking about his son? I’m sorry he lost his son but am upset that they don’t want to tell the truth about Travon,he was not the PERFECT CHILD and I know that doesn’t mean he should have been killed but it you are going to dig up all the dirt on one then it should be allowed to do so on the other one.

  • sundown

    I for one hope Mr.Zimmerman will be able to get on with his life after this is all o ver.I have lived in this area of florida for over 40 years and believe me it’s not a safe area and I see that he is being used for a scapegoat. And why is Travon’s father using his phone while they are talking about his son? I’m sorry he lost his son but am upset that they don’t want to tell the truth about Travon,he was not the PERFECT CHILD and I know that doesn’t mean he should have been killed but it you are going to dig up all the dirt on one then it should be allowed to do so on the other one.

  • Watchdogman

    After George is found innocent we need to run the judge and prosecutor out of town. Tar and feather the freaks…Pandering to the blacks when we all know win, lose or drawn the blacks will go on a rampage, as usual showing just how uncivilized the are. Another excuse to cause mayhem and break into stores to steal..they are not smart enough to do otherwise!

  • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

    Arpaio/Zimmerman 2016

    • LissieC

      You have just proved your mindset all along.

    • LissieC

      You have just proved your mindset all along.

  • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

    Arpaio/Zimmerman 2016

  • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

    Arpaio/Zimmerman 2016

  • bungicord

    If faker Barry had a son little tray would be the one.

  • bungicord

    If faker Barry had a son little tray would be the one.

  • bungicord

    If faker Barry had a son little tray would be the one.

  • Burlington

    George Zimmerman will be found innocent by the jury but will never be a free man.

    • LissieC

      Good!

    • LissieC

      Good!

  • Burlington

    George Zimmerman will be found innocent by the jury but will never be a free man.

  • mudguy

    The Zimmerman trial would have been a non event if the media weren’t driving it. They have turn it into a race trial.

  • mudguy

    The Zimmerman trial would have been a non event if the media weren’t driving it. They have turn it into a race trial.

    • Bert Knabe

      You, sir, have hit the nail squarely on the head.

    • Bert Knabe

      You, sir, have hit the nail squarely on the head.

    • Bert Knabe

      You, sir, have hit the nail squarely on the head.

  • barry1817

    so the prosecutor who brought charges is indicted and barely makes the news?

    And this is also what happens when the media won’t report on the black gangs going around beating up on innocent people, being called anything but what it is==violent thug behavior by blacks.

    And in that context, is one supposed to wait to be dead or for 911 to arrive?

  • barry1817

    so the prosecutor who brought charges is indicted and barely makes the news?

    And this is also what happens when the media won’t report on the black gangs going around beating up on innocent people, being called anything but what it is==violent thug behavior by blacks.

    And in that context, is one supposed to wait to be dead or for 911 to arrive?

  • barry1817

    so the prosecutor who brought charges is indicted and barely makes the news?

    And this is also what happens when the media won’t report on the black gangs going around beating up on innocent people, being called anything but what it is==violent thug behavior by blacks.

    And in that context, is one supposed to wait to be dead or for 911 to arrive?

  • Mutley46

    For those of you who think this is a trial, you really are not paying attention. It is a circus designed for your viewing pleasure/displeasure. The winner of this trial is not Zimmerman or Martin. It is Obama. He gets what he wants. Martial Law in Florida and possibly the rest of the country. No matter the verdict, there will be rioting and looting. No one really cares if Zimmerman is guilty of innocent. It is summer, it is hot, stores are packed with summer goods, soon back to school stuff and fall clothing. Nice time to loot.

  • Mutley46

    For those of you who think this is a trial, you really are not paying attention. It is a circus designed for your viewing pleasure/displeasure. The winner of this trial is not Zimmerman or Martin. It is Obama. He gets what he wants. Martial Law in Florida and possibly the rest of the country. No matter the verdict, there will be rioting and looting. No one really cares if Zimmerman is guilty of innocent. It is summer, it is hot, stores are packed with summer goods, soon back to school stuff and fall clothing. Nice time to loot.

  • Bert Knabe

    I’m sorry, but I think he lost the ‘self defense’ defense when he continued to follow Martin after being told to stop by the dispatcher. I agree the prosecution is doing a lousy job. Unless they pull their heads out Zimmerman will be acquitted – but the trial is such a farce a lot of people will believe it was prosecutorial incompetence, not justice.

    At best this is a case of Zimmerman’s poor judgement resulting in a tragedy. At worst, Zimmerman decided to be a hero and killed an innocent man.

    Don’t tell me Martin wasn’t innocent. He was not doing anything wrong that night, and as far as I’ve seen, Zimmerman had no reason to think he was a criminal.

    • DonHo

      I think you better read up on this from day one !!

    • DonHo

      I think you better read up on this from day one !!

    • DonHo

      I think you better read up on this from day one !!

    • SuperDave2

      Bert, sorry, Zimmerman did not have a legal responsibility to obey the dispatcher. However, he was walking away when the POS Martin attacked him. I would have killed him also.

      • LissieC

        Your avitar says it all! Dispatchers can instruct police, but not citizens who want to be a cop?

      • LissieC

        Your avitar says it all! Dispatchers can instruct police, but not citizens who want to be a cop?

      • LissieC

        Your avitar says it all! Dispatchers can instruct police, but not citizens who want to be a cop?

      • Bert Knabe

        He didn’t have a legal responsibility to continue to follow, or to confront, either. Police had been dispatched, he should have let them handle it. Martin would most likely be alive, and Zimmerman wouldn’t be looking at the possibility of a lifetime in prison.

      • Bert Knabe

        He didn’t have a legal responsibility to continue to follow, or to confront, either. Police had been dispatched, he should have let them handle it. Martin would most likely be alive, and Zimmerman wouldn’t be looking at the possibility of a lifetime in prison.

      • Bert Knabe

        He didn’t have a legal responsibility to continue to follow, or to confront, either. Police had been dispatched, he should have let them handle it. Martin would most likely be alive, and Zimmerman wouldn’t be looking at the possibility of a lifetime in prison.

    • SuperDave2

      Bert, sorry, Zimmerman did not have a legal responsibility to obey the dispatcher. However, he was walking away when the POS Martin attacked him. I would have killed him also.

    • SuperDave2

      Bert, sorry, Zimmerman did not have a legal responsibility to obey the dispatcher. However, he was walking away when the POS Martin attacked him. I would have killed him also.

    • grumpy3625

      The dispatcher was not qualified to instruct Zimmerman whether to follow or not. That was just the dispatcher imagining what they would do without really knowing what was going on. Everybody wants to emotionally jump in without exercising any reason. How do you know that Martin was not up to no good? Were you there? Did you witness what happened?

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      Bert is one of those people, late to the party, who has no clue about Martin’s involvement in burglary, etc., nor about the law.

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      Bert is one of those people, late to the party, who has no clue about Martin’s involvement in burglary, etc., nor about the law.

      • LissieC

        What involvement? Tray was never arrested for anything. He was suspended for normal teenage things. Where do you get your info from Joy?

      • LissieC

        What involvement? Tray was never arrested for anything. He was suspended for normal teenage things. Where do you get your info from Joy?

        • Ajean72

          Where do you get YOUR information from???

          • LissieC

            From the very obvious truth. From the facts that George changes his story as he has been instructed. I can tell you at LEAST 10 lies if you want to go at it.

          • LissieC

            From the very obvious truth. From the facts that George changes his story as he has been instructed. I can tell you at LEAST 10 lies if you want to go at it.

          • Ajean72

            I asked where you got your information from, not your opinion.

          • LissieC

            From the fact that he has lied many times. Asked and answered already

          • LissieC

            From the fact that he has lied many times. Asked and answered already

          • LissieC

            From the fact that he has lied many times. Asked and answered already

          • Ajean72

            I asked where you got your information from, not your opinion.

          • LissieC

            From the very obvious truth. From the facts that George changes his story as he has been instructed. I can tell you at LEAST 10 lies if you want to go at it.

        • Ajean72

          Where do you get YOUR information from???

        • Ajean72

          Where do you get YOUR information from???

      • Bert Knabe

        I haven’t been watching the trial closely, but I followed this very closely last year. Zimmerman new nothing about Martin, so even if he had been involved in burglaries elsewhere there was no reason for Zimmerman to associate Martin with burglars.

      • Bert Knabe

        I haven’t been watching the trial closely, but I followed this very closely last year. Zimmerman new nothing about Martin, so even if he had been involved in burglaries elsewhere there was no reason for Zimmerman to associate Martin with burglars.

        • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

          1. Our knowledge of Martin’s previous involvement in burglary tells us it is that much more likely Zimmerman’s sense/report that Martin was acting suspiciously was accurate. (besides, Zimmerman’s sense that Martin was on drugs was borned out by the toxicology report.)

          2. You said “there was no reason for Zimmerman to asociate Martin with burglars.” How could you know that? Suppose Martin had NEVER been involved in burglary before; how does that rule out behavior by Martin which Zimmerman observed that night which could have indicated either a burglary about to happen, or a future burglary target being scouted by Martin? Do you think Zimmerman just lied to the dispatcher that Martin was acting suspiciously? I certainly don’t.

        • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

          1. Our knowledge of Martin’s previous involvement in burglary tells us it is that much more likely Zimmerman’s sense/report that Martin was acting suspiciously was accurate. (besides, Zimmerman’s sense that Martin was on drugs was borned out by the toxicology report.)

          2. You said “there was no reason for Zimmerman to asociate Martin with burglars.” How could you know that? Suppose Martin had NEVER been involved in burglary before; how does that rule out behavior by Martin which Zimmerman observed that night which could have indicated either a burglary about to happen, or a future burglary target being scouted by Martin? Do you think Zimmerman just lied to the dispatcher that Martin was acting suspiciously? I certainly don’t.

        • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

          1. Our knowledge of Martin’s previous involvement in burglary tells us it is that much more likely Zimmerman’s sense/report that Martin was acting suspiciously was accurate. (besides, Zimmerman’s sense that Martin was on drugs was borned out by the toxicology report.)

          2. You said “there was no reason for Zimmerman to asociate Martin with burglars.” How could you know that? Suppose Martin had NEVER been involved in burglary before; how does that rule out behavior by Martin which Zimmerman observed that night which could have indicated either a burglary about to happen, or a future burglary target being scouted by Martin? Do you think Zimmerman just lied to the dispatcher that Martin was acting suspiciously? I certainly don’t.

      • Bert Knabe

        I haven’t been watching the trial closely, but I followed this very closely last year. Zimmerman new nothing about Martin, so even if he had been involved in burglaries elsewhere there was no reason for Zimmerman to associate Martin with burglars.

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      Bert is one of those people, late to the party, who has no clue about Martin’s involvement in burglary, etc., nor about the law.

    • tmunson15

      hmmmm…. walking around… after dark …in between buildings…looking (by some reports) into windows….. all in the rain….. yep…..nothing suspicious about that….. by the way… interesting representative pic you have….. just who’s freedom do you propose to protect?…..

      • LissieC

        Whose account was he looking into windows?

        • tmunson15

          initial media report……

        • tmunson15

          initial media report……

        • tmunson15

          initial media report……

      • LissieC

        Whose account was he looking into windows?

      • LissieC

        Whose account was he looking into windows?

      • Bert Knabe

        Looking into windows? Where did you see that? I haven’t seen or heard that mentioned anywhere. None of the other things – walking after dark, between building in the rain, are illegal. They are definitely not capital crimes.

        • tmunson15

          seriously ?? if you choose to ignore that type of suspicious activity..I wouldn’t want to live next to you because you and/ or your neighbors are statistics waiting to happen…..

        • tmunson15

          seriously ?? if you choose to ignore that type of suspicious activity..I wouldn’t want to live next to you because you and/ or your neighbors are statistics waiting to happen…..

        • tmunson15

          seriously ?? if you choose to ignore that type of suspicious activity..I wouldn’t want to live next to you because you and/ or your neighbors are statistics waiting to happen…..

        • tmunson15

          oh yes.. one more thing…. the “looking into windows” was an initial media report….i’m just surprised the prosecution hasn’t brought it up yet….

        • tmunson15

          oh yes.. one more thing…. the “looking into windows” was an initial media report….i’m just surprised the prosecution hasn’t brought it up yet….

          • Bert Knabe

            That must have been quickly pulled. I followed this closely for a couple of months and never saw anything about looking in windows.

          • Bert Knabe

            That must have been quickly pulled. I followed this closely for a couple of months and never saw anything about looking in windows.

        • tmunson15

          oh yes.. one more thing…. the “looking into windows” was an initial media report….i’m just surprised the prosecution hasn’t brought it up yet….

      • Bert Knabe

        Looking into windows? Where did you see that? I haven’t seen or heard that mentioned anywhere. None of the other things – walking after dark, between building in the rain, are illegal. They are definitely not capital crimes.

      • Bert Knabe

        Looking into windows? Where did you see that? I haven’t seen or heard that mentioned anywhere. None of the other things – walking after dark, between building in the rain, are illegal. They are definitely not capital crimes.

    • tmunson15

      hmmmm…. walking around… after dark …in between buildings…looking (by some reports) into windows….. all in the rain….. yep…..nothing suspicious about that….. by the way… interesting representative pic you have….. just who’s freedom do you propose to protect?…..

  • Bert Knabe

    I’m sorry, but I think he lost the ‘self defense’ defense when he continued to follow Martin after being told to stop by the dispatcher. I agree the prosecution is doing a lousy job. Unless they pull their heads out Zimmerman will be acquitted – but the trial is such a farce a lot of people will believe it was prosecutorial incompetence, not justice.

    At best this is a case of Zimmerman’s poor judgement resulting in a tragedy. At worst, Zimmerman decided to be a hero and killed an innocent man.

    Don’t tell me Martin wasn’t innocent. He was not doing anything wrong that night, and as far as I’ve seen, Zimmerman had no reason to think he was a criminal.

  • Bert Knabe

    I’m sorry, but I think he lost the ‘self defense’ defense when he continued to follow Martin after being told to stop by the dispatcher. I agree the prosecution is doing a lousy job. Unless they pull their heads out Zimmerman will be acquitted – but the trial is such a farce a lot of people will believe it was prosecutorial incompetence, not justice.

    At best this is a case of Zimmerman’s poor judgement resulting in a tragedy. At worst, Zimmerman decided to be a hero and killed an innocent man.

    Don’t tell me Martin wasn’t innocent. He was not doing anything wrong that night, and as far as I’ve seen, Zimmerman had no reason to think he was a criminal.

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  • FAAQ2

    It’s planet of the Apes all over again.

  • cbj

    After Zimmerman is found not guilty, he will have to change his name, make an appointment with a plastic surgeon, and leave the country. But those who want him dead will never be charged with a hate crime.

  • cbj

    After Zimmerman is found not guilty, he will have to change his name, make an appointment with a plastic surgeon, and leave the country. But those who want him dead will never be charged with a hate crime.

  • cbj

    After Zimmerman is found not guilty, he will have to change his name, make an appointment with a plastic surgeon, and leave the country. But those who want him dead will never be charged with a hate crime.

  • James

    In my opinion, I think the court will find Zimmerman quality
    now matter what. I think the town is in fear of a black mob type riot should justice
    prevail and Zimmerman be found not guilty.
    I understand that the city police were going door to door in the city
    talking to the residence trying to get a feel of what would happen should
    Zimmerman be found not guilty.

    I feel that their judicial system feels that if they convict
    Zimmerman then that will appease the black mob there. Then if Zimmerman conviction is over turned
    in appeal all will be well. In this
    country today you cannot trust government and you cannot trust the judicial
    system.

    • LissieC

      quality now matter what?

      • James

        That should read, “guilty no matter what…” I was using a wireless keyboard and I was
        called away from it. When I returned I sent it thinking I had proof read it.

      • James

        That should read, “guilty no matter what…” I was using a wireless keyboard and I was
        called away from it. When I returned I sent it thinking I had proof read it.

      • James

        That should read, “guilty no matter what…” I was using a wireless keyboard and I was
        called away from it. When I returned I sent it thinking I had proof read it.

    • LissieC

      quality now matter what?

    • LissieC

      quality now matter what?

  • James

    In my opinion, I think the court will find Zimmerman quality
    now matter what. I think the town is in fear of a black mob type riot should justice
    prevail and Zimmerman be found not guilty.
    I understand that the city police were going door to door in the city
    talking to the residence trying to get a feel of what would happen should
    Zimmerman be found not guilty.

    I feel that their judicial system feels that if they convict
    Zimmerman then that will appease the black mob there. Then if Zimmerman conviction is over turned
    in appeal all will be well. In this
    country today you cannot trust government and you cannot trust the judicial
    system.

  • James

    In my opinion, I think the court will find Zimmerman quality
    now matter what. I think the town is in fear of a black mob type riot should justice
    prevail and Zimmerman be found not guilty.
    I understand that the city police were going door to door in the city
    talking to the residence trying to get a feel of what would happen should
    Zimmerman be found not guilty.

    I feel that their judicial system feels that if they convict
    Zimmerman then that will appease the black mob there. Then if Zimmerman conviction is over turned
    in appeal all will be well. In this
    country today you cannot trust government and you cannot trust the judicial
    system.

  • schlang

    “Angelic Trayvon”??? Man, this must be the most racially biased article ever!! Funny, in the attempt that many in the black community make to show bias on the other side, their own bias comes out ten fold and even more ridiculously laughable and far fetched!!!!

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      ? Something flew right over someone’s head

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      ? Something flew right over someone’s head

      • schlang

        My apologies. I read too fast as I have read so many of these ridiculously slanted viewpoints.

        • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

          No problem friend!

      • schlang

        My apologies. I read too fast as I have read so many of these ridiculously slanted viewpoints.

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      ? Something flew right over someone’s head

  • schlang

    “Angelic Trayvon”??? Man, this must be the most racially biased article ever!! Funny, in the attempt that many in the black community make to show bias on the other side, their own bias comes out ten fold and even more ridiculously laughable and far fetched!!!!

  • schlang

    “Angelic Trayvon”??? Man, this must be the most racially biased article ever!! Funny, in the attempt that many in the black community make to show bias on the other side, their own bias comes out ten fold and even more ridiculously laughable and far fetched!!!!

  • Gwynn Ap Nudd

    They never should have been brought here and they will never fit in here. My opinion? Sure, Jefferson’s and Lincoln’s too. It’s only going to get worse since they will never forgive us. Every apology and every concession is just a new sign of weakness to them, and leads to new calls for special treatment and emboldens them to more violence. The answer is separation – if we want to survive as a People and a Culture. Watch what happens to South African Whites after Mandela dies. It will get much worse. That is our future unless we can get away from Liberals and their minority enforcers.

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      I agree with what you say in the main, but Capt. Carter is an example of the bright possibility, however remote it may be, that we can work out some kind of enduring truce or workable solution without necessitating further disaster.

  • Gwynn Ap Nudd

    They never should have been brought here and they will never fit in here. My opinion? Sure, Jefferson’s and Lincoln’s too. It’s only going to get worse since they will never forgive us. Every apology and every concession is just a new sign of weakness to them, and leads to new calls for special treatment and emboldens them to more violence. The answer is separation – if we want to survive as a People and a Culture. Watch what happens to South African Whites after Mandela dies. It will get much worse. That is our future unless we can get away from Liberals and their minority enforcers.

  • Gwynn Ap Nudd

    They never should have been brought here and they will never fit in here. My opinion? Sure, Jefferson’s and Lincoln’s too. It’s only going to get worse since they will never forgive us. Every apology and every concession is just a new sign of weakness to them, and leads to new calls for special treatment and emboldens them to more violence. The answer is separation – if we want to survive as a People and a Culture. Watch what happens to South African Whites after Mandela dies. It will get much worse. That is our future unless we can get away from Liberals and their minority enforcers.

  • Tony

    I don’t think the state has proved their case but there are some huge discrepancies.
    1. GZ said on camera he had never heard of stand your ground. Lie
    2. Looking for street address. Picture taken clearly showing address
    It bothers the crap out of me when he said he had no regrets as it was the will of God. Accident or not. You took a life. Based on what has come out of the trial, I do believe he was getting the crap beat out of him and may have felt he was going to die so he pulled the trigger. I just think he is not being 100% truthful

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      It has been suggested that perhaps the nickname “stand-your-ground” had not come into use when Cater taught Zimmerman, which could explain why the term was unfamiliar to Zimmerman when Hannity asked him about it, even if the specific doctrine was not.

      • Tony

        Hmmm…maybe so.

      • Tony

        Hmmm…maybe so.

      • LissieC

        He was taking the class about a year go. So there goes THAT theory

      • LissieC

        He was taking the class about a year go. So there goes THAT theory

      • LissieC

        He was taking the class about a year go. So there goes THAT theory

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      It has been suggested that perhaps the nickname “stand-your-ground” had not come into use when Cater taught Zimmerman, which could explain why the term was unfamiliar to Zimmerman when Hannity asked him about it, even if the specific doctrine was not.

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      It has been suggested that perhaps the nickname “stand-your-ground” had not come into use when Cater taught Zimmerman, which could explain why the term was unfamiliar to Zimmerman when Hannity asked him about it, even if the specific doctrine was not.

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      As to the rest, you should pay closer attention to legitimate explanations given by Z. You seem too eager to railroad him along with the lynch mob.

      • Tony

        You people kill me. I am a realist. Read my post. I said I do not believe the state has proved their case. I also said the evidence suggests he was defending himself. I am not railroading anyone and please do not lump me in with the hate groups. I’ve watched the trial everyday with an open mind. I haven’t heard him explain the discrepancies as he has not testified.

      • Tony

        You people kill me. I am a realist. Read my post. I said I do not believe the state has proved their case. I also said the evidence suggests he was defending himself. I am not railroading anyone and please do not lump me in with the hate groups. I’ve watched the trial everyday with an open mind. I haven’t heard him explain the discrepancies as he has not testified.

        • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

          Fair enough. Z has given satisfactory explanations to things like the address problem, etc., however.

        • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

          Fair enough. Z has given satisfactory explanations to things like the address problem, etc., however.

      • Tony

        You people kill me. I am a realist. Read my post. I said I do not believe the state has proved their case. I also said the evidence suggests he was defending himself. I am not railroading anyone and please do not lump me in with the hate groups. I’ve watched the trial everyday with an open mind. I haven’t heard him explain the discrepancies as he has not testified.

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      As to the rest, you should pay closer attention to legitimate explanations given by Z. You seem too eager to railroad him along with the lynch mob.

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      As to the rest, you should pay closer attention to legitimate explanations given by Z. You seem too eager to railroad him along with the lynch mob.

  • Tony

    I don’t think the state has proved their case but there are some huge discrepancies.
    1. GZ said on camera he had never heard of stand your ground. Lie
    2. Looking for street address. Picture taken clearly showing address
    It bothers the crap out of me when he said he had no regrets as it was the will of God. Accident or not. You took a life. Based on what has come out of the trial, I do believe he was getting the crap beat out of him and may have felt he was going to die so he pulled the trigger. I just think he is not being 100% truthful

  • Tony

    I don’t think the state has proved their case but there are some huge discrepancies.
    1. GZ said on camera he had never heard of stand your ground. Lie
    2. Looking for street address. Picture taken clearly showing address
    It bothers the crap out of me when he said he had no regrets as it was the will of God. Accident or not. You took a life. Based on what has come out of the trial, I do believe he was getting the crap beat out of him and may have felt he was going to die so he pulled the trigger. I just think he is not being 100% truthful

  • blair152

    The Zimmerman case, like the Casey Anthony case, was overcharged. Zimmerman’s going to walk and I hope there aren’t any riots. Facebook has a RIOT FOR TRAYVON page. There’s another Facebook page that’s advocating killing Zimmerman.

    • LissieC

      There is a difference. Casey was overcharged, but the jury was given no choice for another verdict than Murder 1. Zimm can get Manslaughter of any degree

      • blair152

        Same difference. The jury may have been given an option for manslaughter but in Florida, manslaughter, carries the same penalty as 2nd degree murder.

      • blair152

        Same difference. The jury may have been given an option for manslaughter but in Florida, manslaughter, carries the same penalty as 2nd degree murder.

    • LissieC

      There is a difference. Casey was overcharged, but the jury was given no choice for another verdict than Murder 1. Zimm can get Manslaughter of any degree

    • Terry Adler

      wow i see where your head is, Casey Anthony should be in prison about to get the needle.

      • blair152

        That’s right. She should be but Jose Liez got her off.

      • LissieC

        Casey Anthony was overcharged. There was no way to prove 1st degree which is the only option that the prosecutors offered. In this case, the jurors are allowed to downgrade the charge.

    • Terry Adler

      wow i see where your head is, Casey Anthony should be in prison about to get the needle.

  • blair152

    The Zimmerman case, like the Casey Anthony case, was overcharged. Zimmerman’s going to walk and I hope there aren’t any riots. Facebook has a RIOT FOR TRAYVON page. There’s another Facebook page that’s advocating killing Zimmerman.

  • warningbell

    Stop it, Donald. You have made up your mind that Zimmerman is guilty, and are afraid that this person’s testimony will help acquit him. Do you think the judges and jury are stupid?

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      ??

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      ??

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      ??

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      Something flew straight over someone’s head…

  • warningbell

    Stop it, Donald. You have made up your mind that Zimmerman is guilty, and are afraid that this person’s testimony will help acquit him. Do you think the judges and jury are stupid?

  • warningbell

    Stop it, Donald. You have made up your mind that Zimmerman is guilty, and are afraid that this person’s testimony will help acquit him. Do you think the judges and jury are stupid?

  • john4637

    Now that the cretin Angela Corey, Florida Prosecutor, has been indicted for falsifying information presented to the judge to obtain an arrest for 2nd degree homicide I wonder why a mis-trial has not been declared, if a legal option?!?!

  • john4637

    Now that the cretin Angela Corey, Florida Prosecutor, has been indicted for falsifying information presented to the judge to obtain an arrest for 2nd degree homicide I wonder why a mis-trial has not been declared, if a legal option?!?!

  • john4637

    Now that the cretin Angela Corey, Florida Prosecutor, has been indicted for falsifying information presented to the judge to obtain an arrest for 2nd degree homicide I wonder why a mis-trial has not been declared, if a legal option?!?!

  • lfm41301

    Captain Carter, you did an outstanding job……. l salute you for your ethics, integrity and
    as a Military personnel. You spoke with conviction and without bias.

    • 1josephg1

      Amen to that. God bless that man for telling the truth and not being intimidated. He should run for office. Sounds like he has the character that can not be corrupted.

    • 1josephg1

      Amen to that. God bless that man for telling the truth and not being intimidated. He should run for office. Sounds like he has the character that can not be corrupted.

  • lfm41301

    Captain Carter, you did an outstanding job……. l salute you for your ethics, integrity and
    as a Military personnel. You spoke with conviction and without bias.

  • John William

    I sometimes wonder if the prosecution is deliberately calling witnesses in favor of the defense. Like they know full well that the entire trial is a sham, they were ordered to bring it anyway to appease the race-baiters and they are using the opportunity to show race-pimps like Sharpton and Jackson just how ridiculous the whole thing is. Either way, let’s get this over with, mourn the loss of a young life and get back to fixing some of the country’s real problems.

  • John William

    I sometimes wonder if the prosecution is deliberately calling witnesses in favor of the defense. Like they know full well that the entire trial is a sham, they were ordered to bring it anyway to appease the race-baiters and they are using the opportunity to show race-pimps like Sharpton and Jackson just how ridiculous the whole thing is. Either way, let’s get this over with, mourn the loss of a young life and get back to fixing some of the country’s real problems.

  • John William

    I sometimes wonder if the prosecution is deliberately calling witnesses in favor of the defense. Like they know full well that the entire trial is a sham, they were ordered to bring it anyway to appease the race-baiters and they are using the opportunity to show race-pimps like Sharpton and Jackson just how ridiculous the whole thing is. Either way, let’s get this over with, mourn the loss of a young life and get back to fixing some of the country’s real problems.

  • hora

    Zimmerman real is not guilty, when I was said better black shut a mound was not racist, a bad Blacks know a true very well, a teen was attack a white and a white self defense, if a black community control more all black teen that was not happening, adult black are not a problem, but young teen are a big problem, and if found no guilty and black start violence,there a Police must react fast and arrest who not obey.

    • LissieC

      You are going on the assumption that Zimm is telling the truth. The same Zimm who has been proven to be a prolific liar with a violent history.

      • hora

        Is NOT assumption, is fact, initial police was clear Zimm, because was real self defense, and was, but black and liberals turn a case in Circus and accuse a white of murder, when is NOT. I don’t where you get prolific liar and violence, that was a invent from black and liberals, now How much you know about that Law? Zimm act in real defense when a teen physical attack him and shoot and kill, and go and attack any COP and you will see what happening, black attack Zimm because Dem-liberals push for that a idea is divide all races. Why American don’t understand what real happening? Today is a blacks who discriminate Whites with a consent of Dem-liberals, like evil instigate peoples to fight.

        • LissieC

          He has been caught in at LEAST 10 lies. The worst lying to a judge about how much money he had when it was well known how much his pay pal account amounted to from all you racists, the most telling was that he told his BEST friend that he wrestled the gun from Tray. No fingerprints or DNA on the gun that belonged to Tray. And I dont want to hear the crap about the rain washing it away because Zimm’s was on it and another person’s that didnt belong to Tray. Keep on believing what you want. You red neck bigots will ignore proof over a prolific liar.

          His trainer in law said he got an A in laws pertaining to defense laws as well, even though Zimm said he didnt know. His injuries were minor, I have gotten worse from a cut from shaving, he had no black eyes until the afternoon later (self inflicted?)

          He told Tray’s parents in his fake apology that he didnt know that Tray was a teen, but was on tape from the dispatcher saying he was a punk ass teen. There are more lies, but I have a broken finger and typing this much makes it hurt a bit.

          • Ajean72

            There were more than a handful of witnesses that stated Trayvon was doing the “ground and pound” MMA move on Zimmerman. So whom are you going to believe? The phony parents pretending to cry on the stand, or the witnesses that the prosecution called? Moron.

          • LissieC

            Only one witness said they saw that. John Good. 3 other witnesses said what they could make out, but it was too dark. John Good also said it was the guy that was wearing the lighter clothes that was on top. His apartment is 20 feet away, he only had a porch light on (which by the way, would make it harder for him to see)

          • LissieC

            Only one witness said they saw that. John Good. 3 other witnesses said what they could make out, but it was too dark. John Good also said it was the guy that was wearing the lighter clothes that was on top. His apartment is 20 feet away, he only had a porch light on (which by the way, would make it harder for him to see)

          • Ajean72

            There were more than a handful of witnesses that stated Trayvon was doing the “ground and pound” MMA move on Zimmerman. So whom are you going to believe? The phony parents pretending to cry on the stand, or the witnesses that the prosecution called? Moron.

          • Ajean72

            There were more than a handful of witnesses that stated Trayvon was doing the “ground and pound” MMA move on Zimmerman. So whom are you going to believe? The phony parents pretending to cry on the stand, or the witnesses that the prosecution called? Moron.

        • LissieC

          He has been caught in at LEAST 10 lies. The worst lying to a judge about how much money he had when it was well known how much his pay pal account amounted to from all you racists, the most telling was that he told his BEST friend that he wrestled the gun from Tray. No fingerprints or DNA on the gun that belonged to Tray. And I dont want to hear the crap about the rain washing it away because Zimm’s was on it and another person’s that didnt belong to Tray. Keep on believing what you want. You red neck bigots will ignore proof over a prolific liar.

          His trainer in law said he got an A in laws pertaining to defense laws as well, even though Zimm said he didnt know. His injuries were minor, I have gotten worse from a cut from shaving, he had no black eyes until the afternoon later (self inflicted?)

          He told Tray’s parents in his fake apology that he didnt know that Tray was a teen, but was on tape from the dispatcher saying he was a punk ass teen. There are more lies, but I have a broken finger and typing this much makes it hurt a bit.

      • hora

        Is NOT assumption, is fact, initial police was clear Zimm, because was real self defense, and was, but black and liberals turn a case in Circus and accuse a white of murder, when is NOT. I don’t where you get prolific liar and violence, that was a invent from black and liberals, now How much you know about that Law? Zimm act in real defense when a teen physical attack him and shoot and kill, and go and attack any COP and you will see what happening, black attack Zimm because Dem-liberals push for that a idea is divide all races. Why American don’t understand what real happening? Today is a blacks who discriminate Whites with a consent of Dem-liberals, like evil instigate peoples to fight.

      • hora

        Is NOT assumption, is fact, initial police was clear Zimm, because was real self defense, and was, but black and liberals turn a case in Circus and accuse a white of murder, when is NOT. I don’t where you get prolific liar and violence, that was a invent from black and liberals, now How much you know about that Law? Zimm act in real defense when a teen physical attack him and shoot and kill, and go and attack any COP and you will see what happening, black attack Zimm because Dem-liberals push for that a idea is divide all races. Why American don’t understand what real happening? Today is a blacks who discriminate Whites with a consent of Dem-liberals, like evil instigate peoples to fight.

    • LissieC

      You are going on the assumption that Zimm is telling the truth. The same Zimm who has been proven to be a prolific liar with a violent history.

    • LissieC

      You are going on the assumption that Zimm is telling the truth. The same Zimm who has been proven to be a prolific liar with a violent history.

  • hora

    Zimmerman real is not guilty, when I was said better black shut a mound was not racist, a bad Blacks know a true very well, a teen was attack a white and a white self defense, if a black community control more all black teen that was not happening, adult black are not a problem, but young teen are a big problem, and if found no guilty and black start violence,there a Police must react fast and arrest who not obey.

  • PatriotAmerican fortheUSA

    The best part of this whole thing has been how the Lib Media has made this a circus trying to make it a Black/White issue, while we ALL know otherwise. The prosecution has done nothing but show that Zimmerman (light skinned Hispanic) protected himself within the law of Florida.
    But still the media goes on, and on, and on…….

  • PatriotAmerican fortheUSA

    The best part of this whole thing has been how the Lib Media has made this a circus trying to make it a Black/White issue, while we ALL know otherwise. The prosecution has done nothing but show that Zimmerman (light skinned Hispanic) protected himself within the law of Florida.
    But still the media goes on, and on, and on…….

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  • Rose McLoughlin

    The guy said hello to Zimmerman. That’s all. You’re reading way too much into that simple gesture and your biases are evident.

    Zimmerman should be at least found guilty of manslaughter. There are too many lies and inconsistencies in his story to make his account believable. I don’t understand why so many people are cheering for Zimmerman to be acquitted after killing an unarmed teenager who wasn’t doing anything but walking home.

    Oh wait, you’re all white people, I forgot.

    So am I.

    • LissieC

      I am white, and I think Zimm is guilty as all get out. He profiled, stalked and killed a kid because Tray punched him in the nose and had his head scratched. Yes, they were scratches. Once washed they only needed band aids. Zimm just fell on his butt. If someone were stalking me I would punch him too, probably wouldnt do much good, but I would definitely find a rock!

      Lets face it, if Tray was white, Zimm would already be in prison!

    • LissieC

      I am white, and I think Zimm is guilty as all get out. He profiled, stalked and killed a kid because Tray punched him in the nose and had his head scratched. Yes, they were scratches. Once washed they only needed band aids. Zimm just fell on his butt. If someone were stalking me I would punch him too, probably wouldnt do much good, but I would definitely find a rock!

      Lets face it, if Tray was white, Zimm would already be in prison!

      • 1josephg1

        idiot

        • LissieC

          Ignorant, cant even explain why I am an idiot for stating the obvious.

          • Ajean72

            Why aren’t you people up in arms about the black on black crime that goes on in Chicago, Detroit, St Louis? Is it because it doesn’t fit your racist agenda?

          • LissieC

            We arent talking about that because it isnt the subject of the blog post.

          • Ajean72

            Because you’re a racist moron, that’s why. You only choose to get upset about what is on your agenda and nothing more. It’s obvious with each passing day that Jorge is being railroaded and he will most likely be killed by people that think like you, with no common sense! If this man comes to any harm, I hope it haunts you for the rest of your life! I hope your brain is damaged and you can’t properly function for what you did!

          • LissieC

            His name is George. His father is German. Not Jewish. In fact I dont know what religion Killerman is. And I dont want him killed, raped or any other atrocities that you people think that most of us that have an educated mind, and what makes sense, I just want justice.

            I really dont think that Killerman went out to kill Tray. I think he just had a mind burst, and became afraid that he wasnt going to scare someone.

          • Ajean72

            His real name is spelled Jorge. The media spelled his name wrong so that it could fit their racist “white man against black kid” agenda. Get some brains, Christ!

          • LissieC

            His Birth Certificate says George. In Spanish it is spelled Jorge. He identifies himself as hispanic. Doesnt change the name on his birth certificate. In any case, how is this relevant?

          • Ajean72

            Forget it, you are just hopelessly stupid. Talk to yourself from now on.

          • Ajean72

            Forget it, you are just hopelessly stupid. Talk to yourself from now on.

          • LissieC

            Thank Goodness racist Jean, because YOU are frustratingly stupid. You dont have to reply. His name is George. Why is that even an argument of his guilt or innocence in any case? Jorge and George are the same name in any case. You are just grabbing because you have no argument.

          • Ajean72

            You’re the one who has no argument and based on your choice of a profile pic, it’s apparent that you’re nothing more than a brainwashed sheep. Enjoy your servitude.

          • LissieC

            Please Jeans, even Rush Limbaugh asked the same question, and he is all pro George. And my Avitar? That you even question it proves you are a bigot. I am a white woman, straight, with brown hair. I have green eyes and wear hoodies all the time. I also swim in the dark, am not afraid of other people that are walking in the dark unless they start following me, which fortunately hasnt happened to me. Why dont you look up profiling in Sandford?

          • LissieC

            Thank Goodness racist Jean, because YOU are frustratingly stupid. You dont have to reply. His name is George. Why is that even an argument of his guilt or innocence in any case? Jorge and George are the same name in any case. You are just grabbing because you have no argument.

          • LissieC

            Thank Goodness racist Jean, because YOU are frustratingly stupid. You dont have to reply. His name is George. Why is that even an argument of his guilt or innocence in any case? Jorge and George are the same name in any case. You are just grabbing because you have no argument.

          • Ajean72

            Forget it, you are just hopelessly stupid. Talk to yourself from now on.

          • LissieC

            His Birth Certificate says George. In Spanish it is spelled Jorge. He identifies himself as hispanic. Doesnt change the name on his birth certificate. In any case, how is this relevant?

          • LissieC

            His Birth Certificate says George. In Spanish it is spelled Jorge. He identifies himself as hispanic. Doesnt change the name on his birth certificate. In any case, how is this relevant?

          • Ajean72

            His real name is spelled Jorge. The media spelled his name wrong so that it could fit their racist “white man against black kid” agenda. Get some brains, Christ!

          • Ajean72

            His real name is spelled Jorge. The media spelled his name wrong so that it could fit their racist “white man against black kid” agenda. Get some brains, Christ!

          • LissieC

            His name is George. His father is German. Not Jewish. In fact I dont know what religion Killerman is. And I dont want him killed, raped or any other atrocities that you people think that most of us that have an educated mind, and what makes sense, I just want justice.

            I really dont think that Killerman went out to kill Tray. I think he just had a mind burst, and became afraid that he wasnt going to scare someone.

          • LissieC

            His name is George. His father is German. Not Jewish. In fact I dont know what religion Killerman is. And I dont want him killed, raped or any other atrocities that you people think that most of us that have an educated mind, and what makes sense, I just want justice.

            I really dont think that Killerman went out to kill Tray. I think he just had a mind burst, and became afraid that he wasnt going to scare someone.

          • Ajean72

            Because you’re a racist moron, that’s why. You only choose to get upset about what is on your agenda and nothing more. It’s obvious with each passing day that Jorge is being railroaded and he will most likely be killed by people that think like you, with no common sense! If this man comes to any harm, I hope it haunts you for the rest of your life! I hope your brain is damaged and you can’t properly function for what you did!

          • Ajean72

            Because you’re a racist moron, that’s why. You only choose to get upset about what is on your agenda and nothing more. It’s obvious with each passing day that Jorge is being railroaded and he will most likely be killed by people that think like you, with no common sense! If this man comes to any harm, I hope it haunts you for the rest of your life! I hope your brain is damaged and you can’t properly function for what you did!

          • Ajean72

            Why aren’t you people up in arms about the black on black crime that goes on in Chicago, Detroit, St Louis? Is it because it doesn’t fit your racist agenda?

          • Ajean72

            Why aren’t you people up in arms about the black on black crime that goes on in Chicago, Detroit, St Louis? Is it because it doesn’t fit your racist agenda?

        • LissieC

          Ignorant, cant even explain why I am an idiot for stating the obvious.

      • 1josephg1

        idiot

      • Terry Adler

        I agree LissieC

      • Terry Adler

        I agree LissieC

      • Terry Adler

        I agree LissieC

    • LissieC

      I am white, and I think Zimm is guilty as all get out. He profiled, stalked and killed a kid because Tray punched him in the nose and had his head scratched. Yes, they were scratches. Once washed they only needed band aids. Zimm just fell on his butt. If someone were stalking me I would punch him too, probably wouldnt do much good, but I would definitely find a rock!

      Lets face it, if Tray was white, Zimm would already be in prison!

    • Ajean72

      Trayvon said HELLO, to Jorge Zimmerman? Really? Where is your proof that Trayvon said HELLO? Unless you want to count Trayvon jumping on Jorge as a greeting, then you got me there.

  • Rose McLoughlin

    The guy said hello to Zimmerman. That’s all. You’re reading way too much into that simple gesture and your biases are evident.

    Zimmerman should be at least found guilty of manslaughter. There are too many lies and inconsistencies in his story to make his account believable. I don’t understand why so many people are cheering for Zimmerman to be acquitted after killing an unarmed teenager who wasn’t doing anything but walking home.

    Oh wait, you’re all white people, I forgot.

    So am I.

  • Rose McLoughlin

    And if Trayvon Martin had shot and killed Zimmerman under all the same circumstances, you’d be screaming for the death penalty.

  • Rose McLoughlin

    And if Trayvon Martin had shot and killed Zimmerman under all the same circumstances, you’d be screaming for the death penalty.

  • Robert K.

    This is all funny to me. Some of you make me laugh. I’m just glad it’s not black people blowing up buildings and killing innocent children in an elementary school for goodness sake– that we can blame on “other” races. “Other” races kill large amounts of people and then kill themselves to avoid punishment. How in the world do you compare that to someone who “looked” suspicious and had a troubled past?? Face it, white people are known for this craziness. I mean KKK, really??? what foolishness; running around in sheets on horseback burning crosses and hanging people. Typical white people activities then have the nerve to point the finger. SIT DOWN SOMEWHERE.

    • LissieC

      Exactly, how would Zimm know Tray’s past? Which WE dont even know about.

      • Terry Adler

        I don’tthink he was saying zimmerman knew trayvon had a troubled past, he’s just saying that whatever the case zimmerman had no business disturbing this child no matter what he suspected of him

      • Terry Adler

        I don’tthink he was saying zimmerman knew trayvon had a troubled past, he’s just saying that whatever the case zimmerman had no business disturbing this child no matter what he suspected of him

      • Terry Adler

        I don’tthink he was saying zimmerman knew trayvon had a troubled past, he’s just saying that whatever the case zimmerman had no business disturbing this child no matter what he suspected of him

    • LissieC

      Exactly, how would Zimm know Tray’s past? Which WE dont even know about.

  • DAY8293A

    This judge is stupid. She said the testimony of a professional interrogater stating that Zimmerman was a credible witness on the night of his interrogation, would unduly influence the jury and told them to ignore the testimony. Then she turns around and allows him to give his opinion about whether Zimmerman may have had ill feelings against martin because of what he said on the 911 call was ok…. Either the man is a professional and his opinion is ok, or it isn’t ….. Talk about doing everything to railroad this man she can,, how obvious can you get????

    • LissieC

      You should probably realize where Sanford, FL is.

    • Jeff

      This Prosecutor is REAL Stupid!

    • Jeff

      This Prosecutor is REAL Stupid!

    • Jeff

      This Prosecutor is REAL Stupid!

  • DAY8293A

    This judge is stupid. She said the testimony of a professional interrogater stating that Zimmerman was a credible witness on the night of his interrogation, would unduly influence the jury and told them to ignore the testimony. Then she turns around and allows him to give his opinion about whether Zimmerman may have had ill feelings against martin because of what he said on the 911 call was ok…. Either the man is a professional and his opinion is ok, or it isn’t ….. Talk about doing everything to railroad this man she can,, how obvious can you get????

  • DAY8293A

    This judge is stupid. She said the testimony of a professional interrogater stating that Zimmerman was a credible witness on the night of his interrogation, would unduly influence the jury and told them to ignore the testimony. Then she turns around and allows him to give his opinion about whether Zimmerman may have had ill feelings against martin because of what he said on the 911 call was ok…. Either the man is a professional and his opinion is ok, or it isn’t ….. Talk about doing everything to railroad this man she can,, how obvious can you get????

  • larrygrant876

    Ooooooo, dat obama not gonna be happy that another one did not stay on the plantation him and holder have spent so much energy to rebuild.

    • Rose McLoughlin

      I bet you think that’s real funny.

      • larrygrant876

        Well Rose if you know the democrats history of racism and even very recently,remember Herman Cain?,and outstanding christian man who “HAD actually accomplished something,when he ran for President? The democrats were so threatened by a Black Republican that got away that they destroyed his reputation and he stepped out of the race to keep his family out of the destruction. democrats are evil, they are racist, and they cannot resist destroying those who challenge their power. The sad part is, the rest of us have to suffer along with the ones who just refuse to get it.

      • larrygrant876

        Well Rose if you know the democrats history of racism and even very recently,remember Herman Cain?,and outstanding christian man who “HAD actually accomplished something,when he ran for President? The democrats were so threatened by a Black Republican that got away that they destroyed his reputation and he stepped out of the race to keep his family out of the destruction. democrats are evil, they are racist, and they cannot resist destroying those who challenge their power. The sad part is, the rest of us have to suffer along with the ones who just refuse to get it.

      • larrygrant876

        Well Rose if you know the democrats history of racism and even very recently,remember Herman Cain?,and outstanding christian man who “HAD actually accomplished something,when he ran for President? The democrats were so threatened by a Black Republican that got away that they destroyed his reputation and he stepped out of the race to keep his family out of the destruction. democrats are evil, they are racist, and they cannot resist destroying those who challenge their power. The sad part is, the rest of us have to suffer along with the ones who just refuse to get it.

  • larrygrant876

    Ooooooo, dat obama not gonna be happy that another one did not stay on the plantation him and holder have spent so much energy to rebuild.

  • larrygrant876

    Ooooooo, dat obama not gonna be happy that another one did not stay on the plantation him and holder have spent so much energy to rebuild.

  • hmmmmm

    This president has done more damage to black/white relations than all the previous presidents combined. His demeanor is divide and conquer and thats all he wants to do.

  • hmmmmm

    This president has done more damage to black/white relations than all the previous presidents combined. His demeanor is divide and conquer and thats all he wants to do.

  • hmmmmm

    This president has done more damage to black/white relations than all the previous presidents combined. His demeanor is divide and conquer and thats all he wants to do.

  • WASP

    I don’t think the Kenyan’s Fascist DOJ will allow him to have a fair trial, and certainly won’t allow him to found not guilty. Unless, of course, the people step in and put an end to this gummint-instigated lynching. Lets hang the prosecutors(persecuters?) and the gummint stooge judge. That will be the closest thing to justice we’ll see in this mess.

    • LissieC

      Paranoid much?

    • LissieC

      Paranoid much?

  • WASP

    I don’t think the Kenyan’s Fascist DOJ will allow him to have a fair trial, and certainly won’t allow him to found not guilty. Unless, of course, the people step in and put an end to this gummint-instigated lynching. Lets hang the prosecutors(persecuters?) and the gummint stooge judge. That will be the closest thing to justice we’ll see in this mess.

  • WASP

    I don’t think the Kenyan’s Fascist DOJ will allow him to have a fair trial, and certainly won’t allow him to found not guilty. Unless, of course, the people step in and put an end to this gummint-instigated lynching. Lets hang the prosecutors(persecuters?) and the gummint stooge judge. That will be the closest thing to justice we’ll see in this mess.

  • Rose McLoughlin

    Amazing how much hatred and racism is alive and well in America, but blaming the President for it is such plain ignorant and wrong. Maybe he simply helped bring the closet racists out in the open, even though most of them hide out on the Internet like cowards.

    • Ron Mackay

      You prove you are, the point to, your rant. The black racist are taking over in America Rose. Arm yourself.

    • Ron Mackay

      You prove you are, the point to, your rant. The black racist are taking over in America Rose. Arm yourself.

    • Ajean72

      I don’t hate blacks, I don’t hate hispanics, I don’t hate whites, or Indians. I loathe liberals though. Liberals never use common sense and only rely on emotion.

    • Ajean72

      I don’t hate blacks, I don’t hate hispanics, I don’t hate whites, or Indians. I loathe liberals though. Liberals never use common sense and only rely on emotion.

    • Ajean72

      I don’t hate blacks, I don’t hate hispanics, I don’t hate whites, or Indians. I loathe liberals though. Liberals never use common sense and only rely on emotion.

    • LissieC

      Amen! It’s so ignorant that I worry about the state of hate in this country. He was at a press conference that had nothing to do with this case and expressed his condolences to Tray’s family. He did say that if he had a son he would probably look like Tray. Light skinned black kid. He ALSO said that it was not a case he was involved with and that the local authorities were the ones who would have to take care of it. Heck, if Obama got involved with every case where a black child were killed he wouldnt be able to do his job. Texas would get their wish to secede and kill all the black people they wanted.

    • LissieC

      Amen! It’s so ignorant that I worry about the state of hate in this country. He was at a press conference that had nothing to do with this case and expressed his condolences to Tray’s family. He did say that if he had a son he would probably look like Tray. Light skinned black kid. He ALSO said that it was not a case he was involved with and that the local authorities were the ones who would have to take care of it. Heck, if Obama got involved with every case where a black child were killed he wouldnt be able to do his job. Texas would get their wish to secede and kill all the black people they wanted.

    • LissieC

      Amen! It’s so ignorant that I worry about the state of hate in this country. He was at a press conference that had nothing to do with this case and expressed his condolences to Tray’s family. He did say that if he had a son he would probably look like Tray. Light skinned black kid. He ALSO said that it was not a case he was involved with and that the local authorities were the ones who would have to take care of it. Heck, if Obama got involved with every case where a black child were killed he wouldnt be able to do his job. Texas would get their wish to secede and kill all the black people they wanted.

  • Rose McLoughlin

    Amazing how much hatred and racism is alive and well in America, but blaming the President for it is such plain ignorant and wrong. Maybe he simply helped bring the closet racists out in the open, even though most of them hide out on the Internet like cowards.

  • Rose McLoughlin

    Amazing how much hatred and racism is alive and well in America, but blaming the President for it is such plain ignorant and wrong. Maybe he simply helped bring the closet racists out in the open, even though most of them hide out on the Internet like cowards.

  • Libertarian Soldier

    Not so fast! This is the law. The judge has the responisibility to direct the jury exactly to what this guy said and it’s the last thing this jury will hear.

    This is not a “stand your ground” case. It’s a simple justifiable homicide in self defense case. That’s all.

    Did George Zimmerman know the self defense law? You bet! Did he do everything exactly right? Pretty close; but we still have some extremely irregular events in this case. First, it should never have been charged; Second, it should never have been held over for trial; Third, a full day later, an objection was sustained and testimony stricken with respect to some irregular testimony.; Fourth, You would never see that in any other court room and any judge would be up on misconduct charges for allowing some of what’s transpired, so don’t think anything is in the bag.

    Factually, the defense doesn’t need to present a defense since the prosecution has already done that. To that, I agree. Were I defending George Zimmerman, I would rest and ask for a directed verdict.

    Factually, this judge is either incompetent to her job because she should have already dismissed the case or she’s so cowardly, she will not direct a verdict or dismiss but it doesn’t mean the defense should not move for one.

    I’m tired of hearing how devastating each witness is and how the prosecution cannot recover. That’s just propaganda on the part of those that see this case in the most legal sense. This is a stacked deck against the defense. That’s why I would not dare take a chance at making a mistake and presenting a defense.

    There is no prima facia case for unlawful homicide. It should be dismissed. The persecution hasn’t made its case.

    I must say that I’m proud that George Zimmerman showed such restraint. Factually, George Zimmerman is the survivor of a racist, hate crime.

    • Rose McLoughlin

      Restraint? You’re joking.

      He shot and killed an unarmed teenager and didn’t even attempt any other means to avert this horrible “fear” and “beating” he claims he endured. I call BS. Zimmerman has been lying from day one and has played cop, and felt he was immune from murder like a cop would be acting in the line of duty, and they get away with murder all the time for far less.

      So many of you simply don’t get it, don’t want to get it and can’t see Zimmerman having done anything wrong or inappropriate. You have blinders on, and they’re not color-blind.

      Zimmerman got a bloody nose and a couple of abrasions on the back of his head. He was alert, lucid, completely capable of walking briskly and conversing with the police. Is that really the demeanor of a man who fears for his life or imminent danger, and after he just shot someone?

      Martin didn’t deserve to die over a bloody nose a couple of scratches.

      Zimmerman’s a fraud and many people apparently fell for his charade, because they WANT to.

      Justice will not be served most likely. It seldom is. The law gets in the way of the TRUTH.

    • Rose McLoughlin

      Restraint? You’re joking.

      He shot and killed an unarmed teenager and didn’t even attempt any other means to avert this horrible “fear” and “beating” he claims he endured. I call BS. Zimmerman has been lying from day one and has played cop, and felt he was immune from murder like a cop would be acting in the line of duty, and they get away with murder all the time for far less.

      So many of you simply don’t get it, don’t want to get it and can’t see Zimmerman having done anything wrong or inappropriate. You have blinders on, and they’re not color-blind.

      Zimmerman got a bloody nose and a couple of abrasions on the back of his head. He was alert, lucid, completely capable of walking briskly and conversing with the police. Is that really the demeanor of a man who fears for his life or imminent danger, and after he just shot someone?

      Martin didn’t deserve to die over a bloody nose a couple of scratches.

      Zimmerman’s a fraud and many people apparently fell for his charade, because they WANT to.

      Justice will not be served most likely. It seldom is. The law gets in the way of the TRUTH.

      • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

        The problem for people like you, Rose, is you are so rabidly fixated on lynching Zimmerman that you refuse to acknowledge that our legal system requires certain crucial criteria, probable cause and elements of a crime, to exist before someone can be charged and convicted. We get it, you’ve swallowed the hysterical line of the race-hustlers, but those required elements, not to mention facts and evidence to support conviction, just aren’t there. But of course I’m talking to a brick wall, because you really don’t know anything about the law, do you?

        • LissieC

          Nobody is lynching Zimmerman. You obviously dont even know what that means. Lynching is killing someone BEFORE a trial. That said, if you were walking home from the store at a perfectly reasonable hour, wearing a hoodie, because rain is basically what the hood is for and some creeper started following you (Zimm says he didnt but he lied so many times since this debacle that what can you believe). His own best friend basically proved a very important lie when he was trying to defend him. He got the gun away from Tray. Bet my bottom dollar the cops, when they finally arrested him told him to leave that part out.

          There was no DNA on the gun because Tray didnt grab it, and Zimm didnt have to wrestle it away from him. Common sense says that Zimm WAS stalking Tray, and Tray punched him in the nose. There were no significant injuries besides the “not broken” nose, the “no black eyes” and 3 scratches on the back of his head.

          If Tray was on top (which 3 witnesses refuted and only one red neck said thats what he saw), oh and by the way the same red neck said he couldnt see anything else, so how would he know the color of a jacket that is dark red? Sorry, lost thought. If Tray was on top then why wasnt there a crapload of blood on Zimm? If you shoot someone who is hovering over you, logic would say that you would have a lot of blood on you. Unless you dont believe in gravity either.

          So where is your probable cause Joy?

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            John Good is the witness who actually opened his sliding glass door mere feet from where the two of them were on the ground, emerged, and was yelling at Trayvon to stop his attack. Good is the most reliable witness, because he saw the most, for the longest time, from the closest vantage point, and he didn’t waver in the slightest. He FIRMLY said he saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman, doing a “ground-n-pound” job on Zimmerman savagely.

            The only witnesses who say they saw Zimmerman crouched over Martin had not looked outside until after the shot, when Zimmerman himself says he crouched over Martin and spread his arms out to the sides.

            You only further show your ignorance by asking “where is your probable cause Joy,” because it is the state which has charged a man with a crime and shown no probable cause, not me–I’m the one saying there IS NO probable cause. But of course, my words are wasted on people who don’t know the law and don’t can’t/won’t even follow the details of the case…

            As far as the “lynch mob” phrase, should I even bother asking you to demonstrate by reply that you know what a metaphor is?

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            John Good is the witness who actually opened his sliding glass door mere feet from where the two of them were on the ground, emerged, and was yelling at Trayvon to stop his attack. Good is the most reliable witness, because he saw the most, for the longest time, from the closest vantage point, and he didn’t waver in the slightest. He FIRMLY said he saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman, doing a “ground-n-pound” job on Zimmerman savagely.

            The only witnesses who say they saw Zimmerman crouched over Martin had not looked outside until after the shot, when Zimmerman himself says he crouched over Martin and spread his arms out to the sides.

            You only further show your ignorance by asking “where is your probable cause Joy,” because it is the state which has charged a man with a crime and shown no probable cause, not me–I’m the one saying there IS NO probable cause. But of course, my words are wasted on people who don’t know the law and don’t can’t/won’t even follow the details of the case…

            As far as the “lynch mob” phrase, should I even bother asking you to demonstrate by reply that you know what a metaphor is?

          • LissieC

            20 feet. And you really read what Good’s story was at first. Not a straddle move which is MMM, but one lying on top of the other one. He thought they were wrestling. Why did the screams for help stop when the shot went off if Zimm thought that Tray was still alive flipped him over and held his hands straight out while he sat on him? As for that, why were Trays arms found under his body if Zimm was holding them down. And as for the Sandford Police, do you really think they didnt help old Georgie out when it was found that they didnt make an arrest after 44 days, just dismissed the murder? Dont you think that would make them look a TEENSY bit corrupt?

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            17 feet. Screams stopped because shot stopped the threat.

            Normal for limbs to move in toward the torso when a person is expiring.

            Get up to speed on the Sherman Ware case from 2010, when Zimmerman rallied the community against the Sanford police and derailed some of their careers over the beating of a homeless black man (captured on video) by a white police captain’s son outside a bar. Cop’s son was not arrested/charged, Zimmerman took up the cause on behalf of Sherman Ware; if anything the opposite was the case on the night of the Trayvon Martin incident–SPD had reason NOT to treat him favorably, genius. Do your homework next time, you’re out of your league here.

          • LissieC

            You sure are ignorant AND egotistical. Out of my league? I think not you ignorant racist. Screaming would continue if Killerman didnt know that Tray was dead. He would have still been screaming for help. My mother just died last month (less a day) and her arms were just how we placed them before she went into a coma. Killerman may not have been a racist, but he certainly did profile. I have followed both of their pasts since the arrest. Killerman is the one with anger issues, he couldnt pass a police academy course, in fact he wouldnt even be considered a candidate. Try reading about his former co-workers character references. The guy could go to sweet to ballistic in seconds. He beat his ex, he hit a cop. Tray never had a history of violence. The bus driver story was a lie. Even if he did say it (which he didnt, there is another Trayvon Martin that lives in GA, plus there was a fake facebook profile put up AFTER Tray died. Just about 44 days after he died ironically. The ignorant just ate that up.

            By your own admission you just said that SPD has a problem with black people. Who is out of their league?

          • LissieC

            You sure are ignorant AND egotistical. Out of my league? I think not you ignorant racist. Screaming would continue if Killerman didnt know that Tray was dead. He would have still been screaming for help. My mother just died last month (less a day) and her arms were just how we placed them before she went into a coma. Killerman may not have been a racist, but he certainly did profile. I have followed both of their pasts since the arrest. Killerman is the one with anger issues, he couldnt pass a police academy course, in fact he wouldnt even be considered a candidate. Try reading about his former co-workers character references. The guy could go to sweet to ballistic in seconds. He beat his ex, he hit a cop. Tray never had a history of violence. The bus driver story was a lie. Even if he did say it (which he didnt, there is another Trayvon Martin that lives in GA, plus there was a fake facebook profile put up AFTER Tray died. Just about 44 days after he died ironically. The ignorant just ate that up.

            By your own admission you just said that SPD has a problem with black people. Who is out of their league?

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            Why would screaming continue, genius?

            The Prince William county police lieutenant said under oath that Zimmerman would have been hired if not for a problem with his credit rating, and that if he cleaned that up any department would likely snap him up.

          • LissieC

            Because if he was such an upstanding citizen he would have been screaming for help for Tray who he said he didnt mean to kill. And your arms going under a dead body is still making me laugh. A dead guy raising himself up to put his hands under his body. So ridiculous. Especially since Killerman said he was holding them down.

          • LissieC

            When you are dead, you may have a couple of spastic nerve movements, but nothing like lifting your own body up.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            I didn’t say he lifted his own body up, I said the limbs tend to draw inward.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            I didn’t say he lifted his own body up, I said the limbs tend to draw inward.

          • LissieC

            Killerman said that Tray was on top. Why wasnt there any blood on his jacket? Drawing inward MAY be true Mr. Coroner, but not to the point of how Killerman said he was holding him down. Tray’s arms were UNDER his body.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            They both had some of each other’s blood on clothing.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            They both had some of each other’s blood on clothing.

          • LissieC

            Yeah, a bloody nose vs. a heart and lung puncture while Tray was on top. No blood on Killerman’s jacket. At least not the amount that your would think of a lung and heart shot while Tray was on top. You have no logic whatsoever.

          • Kathy W

            Broken nose and head injuries came first. Zimmerman couldn’t defend himself physically. He couldn’t even breath. He was on the bottom and couldn’t defend himself without the gun. The shot had to be lethal or he could still be killed. He wanted to go home to his family. It’s a natural instinct.

          • Kathy W

            Broken nose and head injuries came first. Zimmerman couldn’t defend himself physically. He couldn’t even breath. He was on the bottom and couldn’t defend himself without the gun. The shot had to be lethal or he could still be killed. He wanted to go home to his family. It’s a natural instinct.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            They both had some of each other’s blood on clothing.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            Z did not say he was holding him down, just momentarily as he was spreading his arms out.

          • LissieC

            Um, yeah! so you agree. Bleeding happens really fast.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            Z did not say he was holding him down, just momentarily as he was spreading his arms out.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            Z did not say he was holding him down, just momentarily as he was spreading his arms out.

          • LissieC

            Killerman said that Tray was on top. Why wasnt there any blood on his jacket? Drawing inward MAY be true Mr. Coroner, but not to the point of how Killerman said he was holding him down. Tray’s arms were UNDER his body.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            I didn’t say he lifted his own body up, I said the limbs tend to draw inward.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            Why would screaming continue, genius?

            The Prince William county police lieutenant said under oath that Zimmerman would have been hired if not for a problem with his credit rating, and that if he cleaned that up any department would likely snap him up.

          • Kathy W

            Lissie, so sorry about your mom. DJ does not come at this with a racial viewpoint but with criminal justice experience. He is being very logical. You are upset over losing Tray and worried he will be trashed and I feel the same way. He has the face of an angel in his pictures but he was bigger and younger than Zimmerman and breaking a person’s nose can pretty much render him defenseless. He can’t even breath. Z had to go for his gun and he had to secure that gun because he thought he was dealing with someone who would use that gun on him and someone else. That gun was his responsibility. I wish he had never gotten out of his car and if there is any blame for that, it lies with Zimmerman and he will pay for the rest of his life even if he is found innocent.

          • LissieC

            Kathy save it. If someone was following you in the dark, in the rain, does not identify themselves I would punch him in the nose too. And I have had my nose broken, sure it hurts but of course you can breathe! Otherwise this would have been a Tray murdered Killerman story. And at 5’11 and 158 pounds he was not much bigger. As for younger? Killerman isnt even 30!

          • Kathy W

            I understand that Trayvon did nothing wrong. His actions were reasonable. He was just a kid. Marines break your nose as a first step in hand-to-hand combat as a way to disarm the enemy. It is very effective. Trayvon had the makings of an instinctively good fighter. They might have both been fighting for their lives and I know that Zimmerman was to blame for initiating the first confrontation but he couldn’t have foreseen that it would end in a death and I don’t believe either one of them did anything illegal. Trayvon IS a victim.

          • Kathy W

            I understand that Trayvon did nothing wrong. His actions were reasonable. He was just a kid. Marines break your nose as a first step in hand-to-hand combat as a way to disarm the enemy. It is very effective. Trayvon had the makings of an instinctively good fighter. They might have both been fighting for their lives and I know that Zimmerman was to blame for initiating the first confrontation but he couldn’t have foreseen that it would end in a death and I don’t believe either one of them did anything illegal. Trayvon IS a victim.

          • LissieC

            Kathy save it. If someone was following you in the dark, in the rain, does not identify themselves I would punch him in the nose too. And I have had my nose broken, sure it hurts but of course you can breathe! Otherwise this would have been a Tray murdered Killerman story. And at 5’11 and 158 pounds he was not much bigger. As for younger? Killerman isnt even 30!

          • Kathy W

            Lissie, so sorry about your mom. DJ does not come at this with a racial viewpoint but with criminal justice experience. He is being very logical. You are upset over losing Tray and worried he will be trashed and I feel the same way. He has the face of an angel in his pictures but he was bigger and younger than Zimmerman and breaking a person’s nose can pretty much render him defenseless. He can’t even breath. Z had to go for his gun and he had to secure that gun because he thought he was dealing with someone who would use that gun on him and someone else. That gun was his responsibility. I wish he had never gotten out of his car and if there is any blame for that, it lies with Zimmerman and he will pay for the rest of his life even if he is found innocent.

          • Kathy W

            Lissie, so sorry about your mom. DJ does not come at this with a racial viewpoint but with criminal justice experience. He is being very logical. You are upset over losing Tray and worried he will be trashed and I feel the same way. He has the face of an angel in his pictures but he was bigger and younger than Zimmerman and breaking a person’s nose can pretty much render him defenseless. He can’t even breath. Z had to go for his gun and he had to secure that gun because he thought he was dealing with someone who would use that gun on him and someone else. That gun was his responsibility. I wish he had never gotten out of his car and if there is any blame for that, it lies with Zimmerman and he will pay for the rest of his life even if he is found innocent.

          • LissieC

            You sure are ignorant AND egotistical. Out of my league? I think not you ignorant racist. Screaming would continue if Killerman didnt know that Tray was dead. He would have still been screaming for help. My mother just died last month (less a day) and her arms were just how we placed them before she went into a coma. Killerman may not have been a racist, but he certainly did profile. I have followed both of their pasts since the arrest. Killerman is the one with anger issues, he couldnt pass a police academy course, in fact he wouldnt even be considered a candidate. Try reading about his former co-workers character references. The guy could go to sweet to ballistic in seconds. He beat his ex, he hit a cop. Tray never had a history of violence. The bus driver story was a lie. Even if he did say it (which he didnt, there is another Trayvon Martin that lives in GA, plus there was a fake facebook profile put up AFTER Tray died. Just about 44 days after he died ironically. The ignorant just ate that up.

            By your own admission you just said that SPD has a problem with black people. Who is out of their league?

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            17 feet. Screams stopped because shot stopped the threat.

            Normal for limbs to move in toward the torso when a person is expiring.

            Get up to speed on the Sherman Ware case from 2010, when Zimmerman rallied the community against the Sanford police and derailed some of their careers over the beating of a homeless black man (captured on video) by a white police captain’s son outside a bar. Cop’s son was not arrested/charged, Zimmerman took up the cause on behalf of Sherman Ware; if anything the opposite was the case on the night of the Trayvon Martin incident–SPD had reason NOT to treat him favorably, genius. Do your homework next time, you’re out of your league here.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            17 feet. Screams stopped because shot stopped the threat.

            Normal for limbs to move in toward the torso when a person is expiring.

            Get up to speed on the Sherman Ware case from 2010, when Zimmerman rallied the community against the Sanford police and derailed some of their careers over the beating of a homeless black man (captured on video) by a white police captain’s son outside a bar. Cop’s son was not arrested/charged, Zimmerman took up the cause on behalf of Sherman Ware; if anything the opposite was the case on the night of the Trayvon Martin incident–SPD had reason NOT to treat him favorably, genius. Do your homework next time, you’re out of your league here.

          • LissieC

            20 feet. And you really read what Good’s story was at first. Not a straddle move which is MMM, but one lying on top of the other one. He thought they were wrestling. Why did the screams for help stop when the shot went off if Zimm thought that Tray was still alive flipped him over and held his hands straight out while he sat on him? As for that, why were Trays arms found under his body if Zimm was holding them down. And as for the Sandford Police, do you really think they didnt help old Georgie out when it was found that they didnt make an arrest after 44 days, just dismissed the murder? Dont you think that would make them look a TEENSY bit corrupt?

          • LissieC

            20 feet. And you really read what Good’s story was at first. Not a straddle move which is MMM, but one lying on top of the other one. He thought they were wrestling. Why did the screams for help stop when the shot went off if Zimm thought that Tray was still alive flipped him over and held his hands straight out while he sat on him? As for that, why were Trays arms found under his body if Zimm was holding them down. And as for the Sandford Police, do you really think they didnt help old Georgie out when it was found that they didnt make an arrest after 44 days, just dismissed the murder? Dont you think that would make them look a TEENSY bit corrupt?

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            John Good is the witness who actually opened his sliding glass door mere feet from where the two of them were on the ground, emerged, and was yelling at Trayvon to stop his attack. Good is the most reliable witness, because he saw the most, for the longest time, from the closest vantage point, and he didn’t waver in the slightest. He FIRMLY said he saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman, doing a “ground-n-pound” job on Zimmerman savagely.

            The only witnesses who say they saw Zimmerman crouched over Martin had not looked outside until after the shot, when Zimmerman himself says he crouched over Martin and spread his arms out to the sides.

            You only further show your ignorance by asking “where is your probable cause Joy,” because it is the state which has charged a man with a crime and shown no probable cause, not me–I’m the one saying there IS NO probable cause. But of course, my words are wasted on people who don’t know the law and don’t can’t/won’t even follow the details of the case…

            As far as the “lynch mob” phrase, should I even bother asking you to demonstrate by reply that you know what a metaphor is?

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            And it really doesn’t matter if his friend got carried away or mis-relayed an aspect of the struggle in his book; besides, he never said Martin got the gun from Zimmerman at all, the discrepancy is only that Osterman wrote that Martin had physically contacted part of the gun while it was still in the holster, whereas Zimmerman had never said that; merely that martin had tried to get at the gun unsuccessfully. No matter, the burden of proof is on the state, in case you didn’t know, and lack of DNA is only that, proving nothing.

          • LissieC

            Mis-Relayed? Did you and George Bush have the same English Teacher? Osterman not only wrote that but has been saying it all along.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            People don’t relay anything from themselves, genius.

          • LissieC

            Ok, illiterate AND racist!

          • LissieC

            Ok, illiterate AND racist!

          • LissieC

            Ok, illiterate AND racist!

          • Jeff

            Ha, Ha, another Bush crack! Blame Bush for everything! Do you people realize how idiotic you all sound!

          • Jeff

            I got a NEW Name for Obamaites! BUSHES!

          • Jeff

            I got a NEW Name for Obamaites! BUSHES!

          • LissieC

            Mis-Relayed? Did you and George Bush have the same English Teacher? Osterman not only wrote that but has been saying it all along.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            And it really doesn’t matter if his friend got carried away or mis-relayed an aspect of the struggle in his book; besides, he never said Martin got the gun from Zimmerman at all, the discrepancy is only that Osterman wrote that Martin had physically contacted part of the gun while it was still in the holster, whereas Zimmerman had never said that; merely that martin had tried to get at the gun unsuccessfully. No matter, the burden of proof is on the state, in case you didn’t know, and lack of DNA is only that, proving nothing.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            And it really doesn’t matter if his friend got carried away or mis-relayed an aspect of the struggle in his book; besides, he never said Martin got the gun from Zimmerman at all, the discrepancy is only that Osterman wrote that Martin had physically contacted part of the gun while it was still in the holster, whereas Zimmerman had never said that; merely that martin had tried to get at the gun unsuccessfully. No matter, the burden of proof is on the state, in case you didn’t know, and lack of DNA is only that, proving nothing.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy
          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy
          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy
          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            Oh, and by the way, one does not have to have a single scratch on them or a hair out of place to justifiably use deadly force to defend themselves. Would you like a lesson? I’d be happy to explain why.

          • Terry Adler

            Many of you people just want excuses to kill every african american alive. George is on his way laughing and skipping. Thank you Donald i have so much faith in the caliber of armed forces being that you are a representation. WOW

          • 32eagle

            I am sure we have some lunatics just as bad as ADOLF running loose-absolutely positive-and I do not like it either.And also I am one to say good and plenty about what offends me-and usually it is lack of ethics and mistreating others-folks in high authority being hypocrites and criminals

          • 32eagle

            I am sure we have some lunatics just as bad as ADOLF running loose-absolutely positive-and I do not like it either.And also I am one to say good and plenty about what offends me-and usually it is lack of ethics and mistreating others-folks in high authority being hypocrites and criminals

          • BigUgly666

            Sometimes you show real reason ….. and other times you prove to be a complete fool.

          • BigUgly666

            Sometimes you show real reason ….. and other times you prove to be a complete fool.

          • Terry Adler

            Many of you people just want excuses to kill every african american alive. George is on his way laughing and skipping. Thank you Donald i have so much faith in the caliber of armed forces being that you are a representation. WOW

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            Oh, and by the way, one does not have to have a single scratch on them or a hair out of place to justifiably use deadly force to defend themselves. Would you like a lesson? I’d be happy to explain why.

          • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

            Oh, and by the way, one does not have to have a single scratch on them or a hair out of place to justifiably use deadly force to defend themselves. Would you like a lesson? I’d be happy to explain why.

          • Paul Hue

            Lynching of the worst sort: the lynch mob has gotten the state to do its work.

          • Paul Hue

            Lynching of the worst sort: the lynch mob has gotten the state to do its work.

          • Ron Mackay

            There will be some fellas in white coats to take you away soon Lissie.

          • Ron Mackay

            There will be some fellas in white coats to take you away soon Lissie.

          • Ron Mackay

            There will be some fellas in white coats to take you away soon Lissie.

        • LissieC

          Nobody is lynching Zimmerman. You obviously dont even know what that means. Lynching is killing someone BEFORE a trial. That said, if you were walking home from the store at a perfectly reasonable hour, wearing a hoodie, because rain is basically what the hood is for and some creeper started following you (Zimm says he didnt but he lied so many times since this debacle that what can you believe). His own best friend basically proved a very important lie when he was trying to defend him. He got the gun away from Tray. Bet my bottom dollar the cops, when they finally arrested him told him to leave that part out.

          There was no DNA on the gun because Tray didnt grab it, and Zimm didnt have to wrestle it away from him. Common sense says that Zimm WAS stalking Tray, and Tray punched him in the nose. There were no significant injuries besides the “not broken” nose, the “no black eyes” and 3 scratches on the back of his head.

          If Tray was on top (which 3 witnesses refuted and only one red neck said thats what he saw), oh and by the way the same red neck said he couldnt see anything else, so how would he know the color of a jacket that is dark red? Sorry, lost thought. If Tray was on top then why wasnt there a crapload of blood on Zimm? If you shoot someone who is hovering over you, logic would say that you would have a lot of blood on you. Unless you dont believe in gravity either.

          So where is your probable cause Joy?

        • Terry Adler

          This whole website is a joke. Just a platform for People to bash African Americans. Great job on your blog Donald, I sure hope nobody gave you a degree related to your writing! SAD

        • Terry Adler

          This whole website is a joke. Just a platform for People to bash African Americans. Great job on your blog Donald, I sure hope nobody gave you a degree related to your writing! SAD

          • Ajean72

            Cry me a river.

          • Ajean72

            Cry me a river.

        • Terry Adler

          This whole website is a joke. Just a platform for People to bash African Americans. Great job on your blog Donald, I sure hope nobody gave you a degree related to your writing! SAD

      • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

        The problem for people like you, Rose, is you are so rabidly fixated on lynching Zimmerman that you refuse to acknowledge that our legal system requires certain crucial criteria, probable cause and elements of a crime, to exist before someone can be charged and convicted. We get it, you’ve swallowed the hysterical line of the race-hustlers, but those required elements, not to mention facts and evidence to support conviction, just aren’t there. But of course I’m talking to a brick wall, because you really don’t know anything about the law, do you?

      • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

        The problem for people like you, Rose, is you are so rabidly fixated on lynching Zimmerman that you refuse to acknowledge that our legal system requires certain crucial criteria, probable cause and elements of a crime, to exist before someone can be charged and convicted. We get it, you’ve swallowed the hysterical line of the race-hustlers, but those required elements, not to mention facts and evidence to support conviction, just aren’t there. But of course I’m talking to a brick wall, because you really don’t know anything about the law, do you?

      • Ron Mackay

        Well, Rose you wrote a real wack job post. I guess you don’t get out in the real world.

      • Ron Mackay

        Well, Rose you wrote a real wack job post. I guess you don’t get out in the real world.

      • Ron Mackay

        Well, Rose you wrote a real wack job post. I guess you don’t get out in the real world.

      • Ajean72

        Reading your other posts, I am convinced you’re a typical white guilt ridden, black arse kissing Obama-bot and what you say is irrelevant.

        • red

          She’s all that and much less!

        • red

          She’s all that and much less!

      • red

        Dear Rose, he may have been beaten to death if he didn’t shot Trayvon. Do you need to have it happen to you or a loved one to see what was happening to George? Wake up woman!

      • red

        Dear Rose, he may have been beaten to death if he didn’t shot Trayvon. Do you need to have it happen to you or a loved one to see what was happening to George? Wake up woman!

    • Rose McLoughlin

      Restraint? You’re joking.

      He shot and killed an unarmed teenager and didn’t even attempt any other means to avert this horrible “fear” and “beating” he claims he endured. I call BS. Zimmerman has been lying from day one and has played cop, and felt he was immune from murder like a cop would be acting in the line of duty, and they get away with murder all the time for far less.

      So many of you simply don’t get it, don’t want to get it and can’t see Zimmerman having done anything wrong or inappropriate. You have blinders on, and they’re not color-blind.

      Zimmerman got a bloody nose and a couple of abrasions on the back of his head. He was alert, lucid, completely capable of walking briskly and conversing with the police. Is that really the demeanor of a man who fears for his life or imminent danger, and after he just shot someone?

      Martin didn’t deserve to die over a bloody nose a couple of scratches.

      Zimmerman’s a fraud and many people apparently fell for his charade, because they WANT to.

      Justice will not be served most likely. It seldom is. The law gets in the way of the TRUTH.

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      Libertarian Soldier, thank you for weighing in with informed commentary.

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      Libertarian Soldier, thank you for weighing in with informed commentary.

    • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

      Libertarian Soldier, thank you for weighing in with informed commentary.

    • Jeff

      You need a girlfriend! But with your Leftist/Liberal Anger & Hatred toward America, that will never happen!

      • Libertarian Soldier

        If that’s a solicitation, giving the benefit of the doubt, I don’t think I’d date a girl named jeff. If you’re a guy, which I think you probably are, you’re confused. I’m a Libertarian, a Constitutional Centralist and I’m at a point in my life where I pretty much can pick whom I want and do.

        As for your political assignment, the left is way over there (I’m pointing left, since you seem to be confused about your own as well as my sexuality and my political orientation).

        Just so you’re clear, in case I was not before, I’m a liberty lover and although I shouldn’t have to explain this, I don’t swing your way.

        Thanks for the ego boost, though!

        Be well and be informed

        Carlos

        P.S. The defense did ask for a directed verdict and was refused by the cowardly, illegal acts of this “judge”

        • Jeff

          Nothing worse than a Gay Ni$$%#! Especially one named Carlos! Tell your parents/parent if there are any that they are failures as parents! oh, are you going to riot when Zimmerman is aquitted you Anti-American! Next time, don’t wait 3+ days to respond. See, I can do your Name Callin’ just as good as you! Go back to America!

        • Jeff

          Nothing worse than a Gay Ni$$%#! Especially one named Carlos! Tell your parents/parent if there are any that they are failures as parents! oh, are you going to riot when Zimmerman is aquitted you Anti-American! Next time, don’t wait 3+ days to respond. See, I can do your Name Callin’ just as good as you! Go back to America!

      • Libertarian Soldier

        If that’s a solicitation, giving the benefit of the doubt, I don’t think I’d date a girl named jeff. If you’re a guy, which I think you probably are, you’re confused. I’m a Libertarian, a Constitutional Centralist and I’m at a point in my life where I pretty much can pick whom I want and do.

        As for your political assignment, the left is way over there (I’m pointing left, since you seem to be confused about your own as well as my sexuality and my political orientation).

        Just so you’re clear, in case I was not before, I’m a liberty lover and although I shouldn’t have to explain this, I don’t swing your way.

        Thanks for the ego boost, though!

        Be well and be informed

        Carlos

        P.S. The defense did ask for a directed verdict and was refused by the cowardly, illegal acts of this “judge”

      • Libertarian Soldier

        If that’s a solicitation, giving the benefit of the doubt, I don’t think I’d date a girl named jeff. If you’re a guy, which I think you probably are, you’re confused. I’m a Libertarian, a Constitutional Centralist and I’m at a point in my life where I pretty much can pick whom I want and do.

        As for your political assignment, the left is way over there (I’m pointing left, since you seem to be confused about your own as well as my sexuality and my political orientation).

        Just so you’re clear, in case I was not before, I’m a liberty lover and although I shouldn’t have to explain this, I don’t swing your way.

        Thanks for the ego boost, though!

        Be well and be informed

        Carlos

        P.S. The defense did ask for a directed verdict and was refused by the cowardly, illegal acts of this “judge”

    • Jeff

      You need a girlfriend! But with your Leftist/Liberal Anger & Hatred toward America, that will never happen!

    • Jeff

      You need a girlfriend! But with your Leftist/Liberal Anger & Hatred toward America, that will never happen!

    • BigUgly666

      A “judge” may NOT “instruct” a jury except to clarify a point of law as requested by the jury.
      You really need to look up Fully Informed Jury and get a bit of an education as regards LAW and the Constitution.

      • Libertarian Soldier

        Really? While I appreciate FIJA’s input for jurors of conscience, I think you need to read the law and procedure in your state. You’ve misread it or listened to somebody that has or perhaps you’ve read FIJA propaganda. Stay out of legal procedure if you don’t know what you’re saying.

        If you’ve been practicing and you believe that judges are not instructing the jury, you need to speak up or wake up because you’ve missed something important, since instructing the jury is at least half of their job in trial.

        You probably don’t but wherever you are practicing I, personally am not going to take a case where a jury doesn’t know what the legal definitions are before they are presented evidence and deliberate.

        If court rules preclude counsel from jury instruction, who then instructs the jury?

        What state are you in? Montana?

      • Libertarian Soldier

        Really? While I appreciate FIJA’s input for jurors of conscience, I think you need to read the law and procedure in your state. You’ve misread it or listened to somebody that has or perhaps you’ve read FIJA propaganda. Stay out of legal procedure if you don’t know what you’re saying.

        If you’ve been practicing and you believe that judges are not instructing the jury, you need to speak up or wake up because you’ve missed something important, since instructing the jury is at least half of their job in trial.

        You probably don’t but wherever you are practicing I, personally am not going to take a case where a jury doesn’t know what the legal definitions are before they are presented evidence and deliberate.

        If court rules preclude counsel from jury instruction, who then instructs the jury?

        What state are you in? Montana?

      • Libertarian Soldier

        Really? While I appreciate FIJA’s input for jurors of conscience, I think you need to read the law and procedure in your state. You’ve misread it or listened to somebody that has or perhaps you’ve read FIJA propaganda. Stay out of legal procedure if you don’t know what you’re saying.

        If you’ve been practicing and you believe that judges are not instructing the jury, you need to speak up or wake up because you’ve missed something important, since instructing the jury is at least half of their job in trial.

        You probably don’t but wherever you are practicing I, personally am not going to take a case where a jury doesn’t know what the legal definitions are before they are presented evidence and deliberate.

        If court rules preclude counsel from jury instruction, who then instructs the jury?

        What state are you in? Montana?

        • BigUgly666

          Exactly my point.
          The jury has the absolute RIGHT to throw the case out if they should so decide and no one can overrule them.
          The “judge” will not tell them this, the lawyers cannot tell them this.
          The “judge” will threaten the jury at times to get the ‘verdict’ that the “judge” wants.
          What State matters not – the jury is the final decider.

          • Libertarian Soldier

            You’re talking about jury nullification for jurors of conscience. That’s not what this is about.

            This is a case where the prima fascia evidence doesn’t support the charges.

            The point made by this article was that the witness instructed the jury on the complex case of a. reasonable force, b. the force up to and including deadly force, definition of the point when to escalate to deadly force and the standards met for reasonable fear, first that it is a threat of death or great bodily injury as well as the belief that it is immenent or actually being accomplished and c. the most important, in this case, because of the blood curdling screams, is the reasonable man’s standard.

            The judge must instruct the jury of these points. The judge doesn’t have a burden to tell a jury how to nullify itself. You need to make certain you know the context before you start disapproving and telling people they need to get educated by a fringe group.

          • Libertarian Soldier

            You’re talking about jury nullification for jurors of conscience. That’s not what this is about.

            This is a case where the prima fascia evidence doesn’t support the charges.

            The point made by this article was that the witness instructed the jury on the complex case of a. reasonable force, b. the force up to and including deadly force, definition of the point when to escalate to deadly force and the standards met for reasonable fear, first that it is a threat of death or great bodily injury as well as the belief that it is immenent or actually being accomplished and c. the most important, in this case, because of the blood curdling screams, is the reasonable man’s standard.

            The judge must instruct the jury of these points. The judge doesn’t have a burden to tell a jury how to nullify itself. You need to make certain you know the context before you start disapproving and telling people they need to get educated by a fringe group.

          • Libertarian Soldier

            You’re talking about jury nullification for jurors of conscience. That’s not what this is about.

            This is a case where the prima fascia evidence doesn’t support the charges.

            The point made by this article was that the witness instructed the jury on the complex case of a. reasonable force, b. the force up to and including deadly force, definition of the point when to escalate to deadly force and the standards met for reasonable fear, first that it is a threat of death or great bodily injury as well as the belief that it is immenent or actually being accomplished and c. the most important, in this case, because of the blood curdling screams, is the reasonable man’s standard.

            The judge must instruct the jury of these points. The judge doesn’t have a burden to tell a jury how to nullify itself. You need to make certain you know the context before you start disapproving and telling people they need to get educated by a fringe group.

        • BigUgly666

          Exactly my point.
          The jury has the absolute RIGHT to throw the case out if they should so decide and no one can overrule them.
          The “judge” will not tell them this, the lawyers cannot tell them this.
          The “judge” will threaten the jury at times to get the ‘verdict’ that the “judge” wants.
          What State matters not – the jury is the final decider.

    • BigUgly666

      A “judge” may NOT “instruct” a jury except to clarify a point of law as requested by the jury.
      You really need to look up Fully Informed Jury and get a bit of an education as regards LAW and the Constitution.

  • Jenn Whitford Palumbo

    If Zimmerman is found innocent he is going to have to change his name and flee the country. I doubt any of the pathetic losers threatening to kill him have the intelligence or the means to find him outside of this country.

    • Jeff

      What do you mean “If”?

    • Terry Adler

      Most of the pathetic losers you speak of proably make more money than you do and legally! i’m pretty sure i do.

    • Terry Adler

      Most of the pathetic losers you speak of proably make more money than you do and legally! i’m pretty sure i do.

  • Jenn Whitford Palumbo

    If Zimmerman is found innocent he is going to have to change his name and flee the country. I doubt any of the pathetic losers threatening to kill him have the intelligence or the means to find him outside of this country.

  • Jenn Whitford Palumbo

    If Zimmerman is found innocent he is going to have to change his name and flee the country. I doubt any of the pathetic losers threatening to kill him have the intelligence or the means to find him outside of this country.

  • emerutil

    Cannot blame the state. An aquittal will likely result in chaos. Better to sacrifice an individual…

    • Terry Adler

      acquittal

      • 32eagle

        I hereby second that emotion

      • 32eagle

        I hereby second that emotion

    • Terry Adler

      acquittal

    • Terry Adler

      acquittal

    • BigUgly666

      Let them riot and shoot them down like the rabid dogs they are (those rioting, of course, to avoid any “racism” claims)

    • BigUgly666

      Let them riot and shoot them down like the rabid dogs they are (those rioting, of course, to avoid any “racism” claims)

  • emerutil

    Cannot blame the state. An aquittal will likely result in chaos. Better to sacrifice an individual…

  • emerutil

    Cannot blame the state. An aquittal will likely result in chaos. Better to sacrifice an individual…

  • Larry

    You know the blacks hate America so much why don’t we ship them all back to Africa. We would all be much better off.

    • Terry Adler

      How do you send so many people “back” somewhere they did not come from in the first place? I came from a womb, maybe you missed that part about the circle of life. Educate yourself, knowledge is power.

    • Terry Adler

      How do you send so many people “back” somewhere they did not come from in the first place? I came from a womb, maybe you missed that part about the circle of life. Educate yourself, knowledge is power.

    • 32eagle

      now now-postage and handling charges would be too extreme-we need to just package buuurruck ohbummer and put him solo in a hot air balloon when a hurricane is coming then have a contest on where his balloon comes down(he is not important-he is just a possum guinea pig crash dummy along for the free trip)yes- now it will be reporters tripping over each other to find the balloon and declare the winner

    • 32eagle

      now now-postage and handling charges would be too extreme-we need to just package buuurruck ohbummer and put him solo in a hot air balloon when a hurricane is coming then have a contest on where his balloon comes down(he is not important-he is just a possum guinea pig crash dummy along for the free trip)yes- now it will be reporters tripping over each other to find the balloon and declare the winner

    • BigUgly666

      We’ve been trying that with Liberia since the late 1700s.

  • Larry

    You know the blacks hate America so much why don’t we ship them all back to Africa. We would all be much better off.

  • Waldo the Pig

    Not guilty!

  • Waldo the Pig

    Not guilty!

  • Waldo the Pig

    Not guilty!

  • Terry Adler

    This forum clearly shows how much hatred white people still hold towards African Americans and for what? Last time i checked history tells a story of black people and many other races being attacked, abused, and even murdered simply because they had no control over the color of the skin they were born with. Many of us work had, have an education, pay our taxes, and the like just as anyone else. That goes unrecognized because of the color of our skin. I am much more affluent than 95% of the white people i know so at the end of the day i could care less about what others think. All of this race ignorance is truly sad. If George says it was self defense and feared for his life then that is all there is but it is wrong to assume trayvon did not also fear for his ife and to call him names. No respect at all in this thread. I feel much better about who i have become after reading the way some of you adults write and behave. Trayvon has no second chance to prove himself in ife however trust me, there are many successful African Americans like myself who will continue to prove others wrong. God Bless

  • Terry Adler

    This forum clearly shows how much hatred white people still hold towards African Americans and for what? Last time i checked history tells a story of black people and many other races being attacked, abused, and even murdered simply because they had no control over the color of the skin they were born with. Many of us work had, have an education, pay our taxes, and the like just as anyone else. That goes unrecognized because of the color of our skin. I am much more affluent than 95% of the white people i know so at the end of the day i could care less about what others think. All of this race ignorance is truly sad. If George says it was self defense and feared for his life then that is all there is but it is wrong to assume trayvon did not also fear for his ife and to call him names. No respect at all in this thread. I feel much better about who i have become after reading the way some of you adults write and behave. Trayvon has no second chance to prove himself in ife however trust me, there are many successful African Americans like myself who will continue to prove others wrong. God Bless

  • Terry Adler

    This forum clearly shows how much hatred white people still hold towards African Americans and for what? Last time i checked history tells a story of black people and many other races being attacked, abused, and even murdered simply because they had no control over the color of the skin they were born with. Many of us work had, have an education, pay our taxes, and the like just as anyone else. That goes unrecognized because of the color of our skin. I am much more affluent than 95% of the white people i know so at the end of the day i could care less about what others think. All of this race ignorance is truly sad. If George says it was self defense and feared for his life then that is all there is but it is wrong to assume trayvon did not also fear for his ife and to call him names. No respect at all in this thread. I feel much better about who i have become after reading the way some of you adults write and behave. Trayvon has no second chance to prove himself in ife however trust me, there are many successful African Americans like myself who will continue to prove others wrong. God Bless

    • Ajean72

      Boo fricking hoo! I am American Indian and I chose to better my life than to spend my time sitting on the res complaining about the past, like my family does. Stop making excuses for those who refuse to live in the present. And if you don’t understand the animosity that white people hold against blacks, you never will get it. There are hardworking people of all colors that have to pay for the lifestyles of a bunch of non working, lazy good for nothing people that do nothing but spend the money they are given, receive free housing, free food and do nothing but multiply like roaches. Why should hard working people go without enough money to take care of their families while those lazy people don’t have to work and are taken care of? Their hands will always be open and they will never learn self reliance and that is a bad pattern to repeat.

      • 32eagle

        I am glad to hear of your success and honestly wish we all had elected you president instead of that muslim mulatto-this whole country is suffering-the first slack president-the welfare president-the first not black enough illegal alien president

      • 32eagle

        I am glad to hear of your success and honestly wish we all had elected you president instead of that muslim mulatto-this whole country is suffering-the first slack president-the welfare president-the first not black enough illegal alien president

      • 32eagle

        I am glad to hear of your success and honestly wish we all had elected you president instead of that muslim mulatto-this whole country is suffering-the first slack president-the welfare president-the first not black enough illegal alien president

      • BigUgly666

        AJean72 – Thank you for telling it like it is.

    • dntmkmecomoverther

      Well, what would you say of the evidence which was found in Trayvon’s backpack at his school, evidence which the ‘school police’ failed to reveal so that the ‘crime rate’ at the school could be reported to be ‘declining’? They found a magic marker which Tray had used to graffiti a wall…an act caught on cameras in the school. While searching for the magic marker, they also found marijuana, jewelry which had been stolen from lockers, and lots of cash. Ask yourself why we didn’t get to hear of this ‘background’ which led to Tray walking around at 3am in the rain…

      • Ajean72

        According to Tracy Martin’s fiancee’, Trayvon was out in the rain, stuck without a key, because he could not be trusted with one.

      • Ajean72

        According to Tracy Martin’s fiancee’, Trayvon was out in the rain, stuck without a key, because he could not be trusted with one.

    • 32eagle

      I gave you a thumbs up and I am white and this captain carter must be like yourself-a stand alone warrior at times-even in the dark with no flashlight

    • 32eagle

      I gave you a thumbs up and I am white and this captain carter must be like yourself-a stand alone warrior at times-even in the dark with no flashlight

    • 32eagle

      I gave you a thumbs up and I am white and this captain carter must be like yourself-a stand alone warrior at times-even in the dark with no flashlight

    • red

      I rarely hear or see white violence against blacks in my lifetime yet you are comfortable bringing up past decades or even behavior from a century ago. Perhaps if you paid attention to the world you live in and try to influence modern day events and behavior we would not have the amount of problems in the black community that destroys so many cities and family’s. Go ahead and stay in denial like so many black adults who routinely excuse their children’s behavior and destruction.

    • red

      I rarely hear or see white violence against blacks in my lifetime yet you are comfortable bringing up past decades or even behavior from a century ago. Perhaps if you paid attention to the world you live in and try to influence modern day events and behavior we would not have the amount of problems in the black community that destroys so many cities and family’s. Go ahead and stay in denial like so many black adults who routinely excuse their children’s behavior and destruction.

    • red

      I rarely hear or see white violence against blacks in my lifetime yet you are comfortable bringing up past decades or even behavior from a century ago. Perhaps if you paid attention to the world you live in and try to influence modern day events and behavior we would not have the amount of problems in the black community that destroys so many cities and family’s. Go ahead and stay in denial like so many black adults who routinely excuse their children’s behavior and destruction.

  • Pete Curtis

    This trial is, in my opinion, one of the most obvious expressions of racial hatred in American history. Even the KKK with their beatings, burnings, and hangings of innocent black Americans fail to attain this level of racial bigotry and hatred. However, there remains one participant in this mockery of justice which is largely ignored – the press, the lame-stream media. Had Zimmerman been Lagumba Smith, this entire event would have never been mentioned by the press and never brought to any form of trial.

  • URKiddinMee

    FREE THE ZEE!

  • URKiddinMee

    FREE THE ZEE!

  • cslagenhop

    Racial prosecutions have no place in America. The not-guilty verdict hopefully sends that message. Those who seek to divide this country are evil and they are wanting us all to be judged by the color of our skin and not the content of our character. Rebuke to them.

    • Terry Adler

      I’m confused myself as to why people are refering to zimmerman as white and saying it has to do with race. There are black people who do not like their own race to me race is not the issue. In this particular thread there seems to be a particular race that wants to make that the issue. I’m upset at the black people who want to make this about black and white because once again zimmerman is not white. As an african american I was never brought up to see color i had many white friends growing up and as i mentioned before i’m much more educated than they are but i do not feel like i am better and my actions reflect that. If i’m being honest, i could see a number of those white people that i know commiting crimes and being unproductive in society just as much as any other race so you are right in saying we should basically let go of the content of the skin bit and be more concerend with character. In my opinion, a not guilty verdict will not send the message you are wanting it to, sorry.

    • Terry Adler

      I’m confused myself as to why people are refering to zimmerman as white and saying it has to do with race. There are black people who do not like their own race to me race is not the issue. In this particular thread there seems to be a particular race that wants to make that the issue. I’m upset at the black people who want to make this about black and white because once again zimmerman is not white. As an african american I was never brought up to see color i had many white friends growing up and as i mentioned before i’m much more educated than they are but i do not feel like i am better and my actions reflect that. If i’m being honest, i could see a number of those white people that i know commiting crimes and being unproductive in society just as much as any other race so you are right in saying we should basically let go of the content of the skin bit and be more concerend with character. In my opinion, a not guilty verdict will not send the message you are wanting it to, sorry.

      • red

        Whites do not come to the aid of white criminals like a huge segment of black America routinely does with blacks who are accused/convicted, on a regular basis.

      • red

        Whites do not come to the aid of white criminals like a huge segment of black America routinely does with blacks who are accused/convicted, on a regular basis.

    • Terry Adler

      I’m confused myself as to why people are refering to zimmerman as white and saying it has to do with race. There are black people who do not like their own race to me race is not the issue. In this particular thread there seems to be a particular race that wants to make that the issue. I’m upset at the black people who want to make this about black and white because once again zimmerman is not white. As an african american I was never brought up to see color i had many white friends growing up and as i mentioned before i’m much more educated than they are but i do not feel like i am better and my actions reflect that. If i’m being honest, i could see a number of those white people that i know commiting crimes and being unproductive in society just as much as any other race so you are right in saying we should basically let go of the content of the skin bit and be more concerend with character. In my opinion, a not guilty verdict will not send the message you are wanting it to, sorry.

  • Ranchman

    Although it’s good that Cpt. Carter seemed on good terms with Zimmerman and apparently thought he is innocent, his testimony could possibly be a problem for the defense. Knowing about the “stand your ground” law (the “castle doctrine” doesn’t apply here, Zimmerman wasn’t at home) might play into the prosecutor’s strategy of him going after Martin, thinking he’d be let off scot-free via Florida law. The prosecutor might claim that Zimmerman went after Martin, thinking he could just shoot him and claim the “stand your ground” law as a defense, covering up what might be an intentional act. The bottom line here is, the police never charged Zimmerman with a crime, not even the Chief-of-Police wanted to. There was no crime, at least in their opinion. This circus only started after the head race-baiters got involved; Jackson, Sharpton, and the worst of all, Obama/Soetoro/Brounel. Let’s not forget Obama’s Dept. of Injustice, led by the master criminal Eric Holder, who was involved in one of the most horrendous actions committed against American citizens since King George III himself; Waco, TX, as well as being involved in the Trentadue murder (research that last one, it was totally despicable. If I’m right, his first name was Jesse but I’m not sure). It’s almost a guarantee that Blacks will riot across the country as soon as Z is acquitted in this monkey trial. Should Whites also riot? I seriously think they wouldn’t know how.

    • Terry Adler

      I could point out many things wrong with what you just wrote but i will not waste time here. Obama has nothing to do with this case last time i checked he has not been on the witness stand, nor has he been in the courtroom or mentioned in the courtroom so let us clear his name at this moment. I feel as though Many white people (not all) want things to go unnoticed and for other people not to address the issues that surround them because they feel as though they deserve some type of respect for being white. I wish THAT large number of white people would get over themselves and realize that white is not the only color that exists in the human race. Side Note: white gets dirty quicker than any other color, as we clearly see in this case (you determine what i mean by that).

    • Terry Adler

      I could point out many things wrong with what you just wrote but i will not waste time here. Obama has nothing to do with this case last time i checked he has not been on the witness stand, nor has he been in the courtroom or mentioned in the courtroom so let us clear his name at this moment. I feel as though Many white people (not all) want things to go unnoticed and for other people not to address the issues that surround them because they feel as though they deserve some type of respect for being white. I wish THAT large number of white people would get over themselves and realize that white is not the only color that exists in the human race. Side Note: white gets dirty quicker than any other color, as we clearly see in this case (you determine what i mean by that).

      • dntmkmecomoverther

        …what I have ‘determined by what you mean by that’ is that you’re a dullard who is intellectually blind…most likely pimp for the dems with no productive means with which to benefit your fellow man other than to steal from them over and over again through the gubmint programs which enable you to continue to do so.

      • BigUgly666

        Obama has nothing to do with this???? Really?
        Just like he had nothing to do with the “stupid cop” and the “Elite Black Professor” …. right?

        Obama should have kept his mouth shut instead of his equine fecal matter about how “pool little innocent trayvon could have looked like Obama’s son” … but I don’t think Rahn could have fathered one that way.

      • BigUgly666

        Obama has nothing to do with this???? Really?
        Just like he had nothing to do with the “stupid cop” and the “Elite Black Professor” …. right?

        Obama should have kept his mouth shut instead of his equine fecal matter about how “pool little innocent trayvon could have looked like Obama’s son” … but I don’t think Rahn could have fathered one that way.

      • BigUgly666

        Obama has nothing to do with this???? Really?
        Just like he had nothing to do with the “stupid cop” and the “Elite Black Professor” …. right?

        Obama should have kept his mouth shut instead of his equine fecal matter about how “pool little innocent trayvon could have looked like Obama’s son” … but I don’t think Rahn could have fathered one that way.

      • red

        Hey Terry, Obama interjected himself in the case by commenting “if I had a son, he would look like Trayvon”. Pay attention to everything, not just that which fits your agenda. And I’m glad whites don’t wake up every morning thinking about how white they are like insecure blacks like yourself are consumed with!

    • Terry Adler

      I could point out many things wrong with what you just wrote but i will not waste time here. Obama has nothing to do with this case last time i checked he has not been on the witness stand, nor has he been in the courtroom or mentioned in the courtroom so let us clear his name at this moment. I feel as though Many white people (not all) want things to go unnoticed and for other people not to address the issues that surround them because they feel as though they deserve some type of respect for being white. I wish THAT large number of white people would get over themselves and realize that white is not the only color that exists in the human race. Side Note: white gets dirty quicker than any other color, as we clearly see in this case (you determine what i mean by that).

  • Ranchman

    Although it’s good that Cpt. Carter seemed on good terms with Zimmerman and apparently thought he is innocent, his testimony could possibly be a problem for the defense. Knowing about the “stand your ground” law (the “castle doctrine” doesn’t apply here, Zimmerman wasn’t at home) might play into the prosecutor’s strategy of him going after Martin, thinking he’d be let off scot-free via Florida law. The prosecutor might claim that Zimmerman went after Martin, thinking he could just shoot him and claim the “stand your ground” law as a defense, covering up what might be an intentional act. The bottom line here is, the police never charged Zimmerman with a crime, not even the Chief-of-Police wanted to. There was no crime, at least in their opinion. This circus only started after the head race-baiters got involved; Jackson, Sharpton, and the worst of all, Obama/Soetoro/Brounel. Let’s not forget Obama’s Dept. of Injustice, led by the master criminal Eric Holder, who was involved in one of the most horrendous actions committed against American citizens since King George III himself; Waco, TX, as well as being involved in the Trentadue murder (research that last one, it was totally despicable. If I’m right, his first name was Jesse but I’m not sure). It’s almost a guarantee that Blacks will riot across the country as soon as Z is acquitted in this monkey trial. Should Whites also riot? I seriously think they wouldn’t know how.

  • 32eagle

    The captain did what honorable men with sound morals and ethics do-they do not give in to the devil and lie because its a bro that was shot

    • Bert Knabe

      I didn’t get the same thing that you seem to have from the nervous smile and wave. It was apparent that he liked George, but it looked more like he hated seeing a friend behind the defendants table. If I were on the jury I don’t know that it would have weighed much on my decision. The evidence presented would be more important.

      We’ll never know if it is a blessing or a curse for Zimmerman that there were no witnesses to the actual shooting.

      • willhen50

        The kangaroo court that was presented to Zimmerman was a political response. There was no evidence that Zimmerman displayed racial bigotry and he even tutored black kids. Zimmerman was actually doing a service for the community and was reporting a suspicious character to the police. What transpired in the meeting up with these two people is just a fracas gone bad. However, a 17 year old kid regardless of what color they are should not hit someone just because they are being followed. There was several options that “child” could have done, he did not have to resort to physical contact. Zimmerman on the other hand could have identified himself, but maybe he didn’t have time before the impending blow to the nose. The worse thing to happen now is the government charge Zimmerman with civil rights violations, another travesty and insult to civil rights.

      • willhen50

        The kangaroo court that was presented to Zimmerman was a political response. There was no evidence that Zimmerman displayed racial bigotry and he even tutored black kids. Zimmerman was actually doing a service for the community and was reporting a suspicious character to the police. What transpired in the meeting up with these two people is just a fracas gone bad. However, a 17 year old kid regardless of what color they are should not hit someone just because they are being followed. There was several options that “child” could have done, he did not have to resort to physical contact. Zimmerman on the other hand could have identified himself, but maybe he didn’t have time before the impending blow to the nose. The worse thing to happen now is the government charge Zimmerman with civil rights violations, another travesty and insult to civil rights.

      • willhen50

        The kangaroo court that was presented to Zimmerman was a political response. There was no evidence that Zimmerman displayed racial bigotry and he even tutored black kids. Zimmerman was actually doing a service for the community and was reporting a suspicious character to the police. What transpired in the meeting up with these two people is just a fracas gone bad. However, a 17 year old kid regardless of what color they are should not hit someone just because they are being followed. There was several options that “child” could have done, he did not have to resort to physical contact. Zimmerman on the other hand could have identified himself, but maybe he didn’t have time before the impending blow to the nose. The worse thing to happen now is the government charge Zimmerman with civil rights violations, another travesty and insult to civil rights.

    • Bert Knabe

      I didn’t get the same thing that you seem to have from the nervous smile and wave. It was apparent that he liked George, but it looked more like he hated seeing a friend behind the defendants table. If I were on the jury I don’t know that it would have weighed much on my decision. The evidence presented would be more important.

      We’ll never know if it is a blessing or a curse for Zimmerman that there were no witnesses to the actual shooting.

  • 32eagle

    The captain did what honorable men with sound morals and ethics do-they do not give in to the devil and lie because its a bro that was shot

  • 32eagle

    The captain did what honorable men with sound morals and ethics do-they do not give in to the devil and lie because its a bro that was shot

  • MannieP

    And Tthe Lynching of American Hero George Zimmerman continues.

    I am George Zimmerman.

    • Bert Knabe

      The thing that amazes about this isn’t that people screamed “HATE CRIME!” as soon as it happened, it’s that so many people seem to think that because it was a black man it was justified. I’m willing to entertain the thought that Zimmerman made an honest (albeit tragic) mistake. If I were Zimmerman I would be praying for acquittal, but I would want the prosecution to be doing a better job. I would not want honest people to be able to ask, “Did he get off because he was innocent of malice, or because the prosecution was run by Bozo the Clown?”

      • willhen50

        It is obvious that the prosecution is doing a horrible job, my question is on the judge, doesn’t she see the prosecution doing a horrible job? I have not seen the prosecution layout a 2nd degree murder charge, if anything it was an accident because of 2 peoples fears. The only culpable action against Zimmerman would be failure to identify himself as police are required to do. That action could be troublesome for the defense.

      • willhen50

        It is obvious that the prosecution is doing a horrible job, my question is on the judge, doesn’t she see the prosecution doing a horrible job? I have not seen the prosecution layout a 2nd degree murder charge, if anything it was an accident because of 2 peoples fears. The only culpable action against Zimmerman would be failure to identify himself as police are required to do. That action could be troublesome for the defense.

      • willhen50

        It is obvious that the prosecution is doing a horrible job, my question is on the judge, doesn’t she see the prosecution doing a horrible job? I have not seen the prosecution layout a 2nd degree murder charge, if anything it was an accident because of 2 peoples fears. The only culpable action against Zimmerman would be failure to identify himself as police are required to do. That action could be troublesome for the defense.

        • Bert Knabe

          Well, the trials over. I hope Zimmerman is able to go on with his life. It would be nice if he could make an honest apology to the family.

          Thanks for the most sensible response I’ve seen on this topic.

        • Bert Knabe

          Well, the trials over. I hope Zimmerman is able to go on with his life. It would be nice if he could make an honest apology to the family.

          Thanks for the most sensible response I’ve seen on this topic.

  • hurricane567

    ” Malik Zulu Shabazz must have been throwing furniture at his TV screen.” I don’t think cheap plastic patio furniture would do much good against that ’70s rear projector he liberated from The Man. I know the Army’s pretty huge, but i wonder if Capt. Carter has ever met Col. Alan West?

  • hurricane567

    ” Malik Zulu Shabazz must have been throwing furniture at his TV screen.” I don’t think cheap plastic patio furniture would do much good against that ’70s rear projector he liberated from The Man. I know the Army’s pretty huge, but i wonder if Capt. Carter has ever met Col. Alan West?

  • hurricane567

    ” Malik Zulu Shabazz must have been throwing furniture at his TV screen.” I don’t think cheap plastic patio furniture would do much good against that ’70s rear projector he liberated from The Man. I know the Army’s pretty huge, but i wonder if Capt. Carter has ever met Col. Alan West?

  • xteeth

    My browser started up in the middle of the comments and I was sure that this was some crackers.com web site. Now I am convinced.

    • red

      “XTEETH”, GO LOOK FOR YOUR WELFARE CHECK FROM WHITEY!

    • red

      “XTEETH”, GO LOOK FOR YOUR WELFARE CHECK FROM WHITEY!

    • red

      “XTEETH”, GO LOOK FOR YOUR WELFARE CHECK FROM WHITEY!

    • BigUgly666

      Spoken like a true Ni ….. Ni ….. Ni …. NitWit.

    • BigUgly666

      Spoken like a true Ni ….. Ni ….. Ni …. NitWit.

    • BigUgly666

      Spoken like a true Ni ….. Ni ….. Ni …. NitWit.

  • MARK FREDERICK

    Your a full scale brain washed demoCRAP and I feel sorry for you. Odumba should have shut his fat mouth and waited for the conclusion of the trial before taking sides. He put his two cents in trying his best to sway the jury. He is as useless as a bubblegum machine in a lock jaw ward and if brains were dynamite Odumba couldn’t blow his nose. I still haven’t gotten an answer from ANY DEMOCRAP to the question, WHAT GREAT THING DID OBAMA DO TO BECOME THE DEMOCRAT PERSON OF CHOICE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT ? Someone with some kind of brain answer the question. The true and HONEST answer is NOTHING !!!!!

    • 4PERCENTER

      The one and only thing ‘great thing’ he did (actually his mother did), was make him the “right kind of Negro”, that dems could allow in the house. You have to be VERY light skinned. You have to appear refined in speech and appearance, so you don’t embarrass the Master in front of his guests, as you serve the tables. And if you are good enough to warrant a complement from your guests as to how you trained your Negro so well, you can be extra proud of your racism as a successful breeder of thoroughbred house (Whitehouse) Negros! Slavery can be refined. That’s why dems fought the deadliest war in history – to retain such bragging rights, and keep Negros in their place. Dare I say that even post-civil rights movement, they are still successful … SMH. The fence has been removed. Black people are still on the plantation. They will give up their chitterlings when you pry the food stamp card from their cold dead hands!!!

    • 4PERCENTER

      The one and only thing ‘great thing’ he did (actually his mother did), was make him the “right kind of Negro”, that dems could allow in the house. You have to be VERY light skinned. You have to appear refined in speech and appearance, so you don’t embarrass the Master in front of his guests, as you serve the tables. And if you are good enough to warrant a complement from your guests as to how you trained your Negro so well, you can be extra proud of your racism as a successful breeder of thoroughbred house (Whitehouse) Negros! Slavery can be refined. That’s why dems fought the deadliest war in history – to retain such bragging rights, and keep Negros in their place. Dare I say that even post-civil rights movement, they are still successful … SMH. The fence has been removed. Black people are still on the plantation. They will give up their chitterlings when you pry the food stamp card from their cold dead hands!!!

  • MARK FREDERICK

    Your a full scale brain washed demoCRAP and I feel sorry for you. Odumba should have shut his fat mouth and waited for the conclusion of the trial before taking sides. He put his two cents in trying his best to sway the jury. He is as useless as a bubblegum machine in a lock jaw ward and if brains were dynamite Odumba couldn’t blow his nose. I still haven’t gotten an answer from ANY DEMOCRAP to the question, WHAT GREAT THING DID OBAMA DO TO BECOME THE DEMOCRAT PERSON OF CHOICE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT ? Someone with some kind of brain answer the question. The true and HONEST answer is NOTHING !!!!!

  • MARK FREDERICK

    Your a full scale brain washed demoCRAP and I feel sorry for you. Odumba should have shut his fat mouth and waited for the conclusion of the trial before taking sides. He put his two cents in trying his best to sway the jury. He is as useless as a bubblegum machine in a lock jaw ward and if brains were dynamite Odumba couldn’t blow his nose. I still haven’t gotten an answer from ANY DEMOCRAP to the question, WHAT GREAT THING DID OBAMA DO TO BECOME THE DEMOCRAT PERSON OF CHOICE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT ? Someone with some kind of brain answer the question. The true and HONEST answer is NOTHING !!!!!

  • Casmige

    We are all weighed in the balances of Supreme justice by the manner of our deportment, our testimony, as well as our every day living of our borrowed lives…..what a sobering thought all to be well contemplated by each…

    Revelation 20:11-15

    Ecclesiastes 12:13-14

  • Casmige

    We are all weighed in the balances of Supreme justice by the manner of our deportment, our testimony, as well as our every day living of our borrowed lives…..what a sobering thought all to be well contemplated by each…

    Revelation 20:11-15

    Ecclesiastes 12:13-14

  • Oldchopper

    The left continues with the race baiting. It’s their tactic in all matters that pertain to color. Thank God for those honest folks that will man-up to these clowns and tell it like it is. God Bless Carter and in the Eternal Life to follow we will not be surrounded by such fools.

  • Oldchopper

    The left continues with the race baiting. It’s their tactic in all matters that pertain to color. Thank God for those honest folks that will man-up to these clowns and tell it like it is. God Bless Carter and in the Eternal Life to follow we will not be surrounded by such fools.

  • madmemere

    Wonder if Captain Carter can “defuse” the black community’s absolute, biased hatred in this case? Let’s pray he does have that ability.

  • madmemere

    Wonder if Captain Carter can “defuse” the black community’s absolute, biased hatred in this case? Let’s pray he does have that ability.

  • madmemere

    Wonder if Captain Carter can “defuse” the black community’s absolute, biased hatred in this case? Let’s pray he does have that ability.

  • Doug Rodrigues

    Just once would I like to see a photo of what Trayvon Martin really looked like, instead of the 5 year old phots of Trayvon looking like a young innocent teenager. The “News” Media is intentionally inflaming the general public over the race issue. Trayvon’s facebook page was scrubbed of his latest photo which made him look more like a street thug than a smiling teenager.

  • Doug Rodrigues

    Just once would I like to see a photo of what Trayvon Martin really looked like, instead of the 5 year old phots of Trayvon looking like a young innocent teenager. The “News” Media is intentionally inflaming the general public over the race issue. Trayvon’s facebook page was scrubbed of his latest photo which made him look more like a street thug than a smiling teenager.

  • Doug Rodrigues

    Just once would I like to see a photo of what Trayvon Martin really looked like, instead of the 5 year old phots of Trayvon looking like a young innocent teenager. The “News” Media is intentionally inflaming the general public over the race issue. Trayvon’s facebook page was scrubbed of his latest photo which made him look more like a street thug than a smiling teenager.

  • Paladin

    It is the OBLIGATION of every concealed carry permit holder to be familiar with the laws governing the use of deadly force in their state of permitting.

    Zimmerman should be APPLAUDED for taking the course because I as a firearms instructor I see a lot of students who spend less time studying the legal requirements of owning and operating a firearm than they should.

    THEY are the folks that scare me, not folks like Zimmerman who accept the responsibilities of becoming a concealed carry holder and actually go out to learn the legal requirements as well as the legal ramifications and repercussions on the use of deadly force.

  • Paladin

    It is the OBLIGATION of every concealed carry permit holder to be familiar with the laws governing the use of deadly force in their state of permitting.

    Zimmerman should be APPLAUDED for taking the course because I as a firearms instructor I see a lot of students who spend less time studying the legal requirements of owning and operating a firearm than they should.

    THEY are the folks that scare me, not folks like Zimmerman who accept the responsibilities of becoming a concealed carry holder and actually go out to learn the legal requirements as well as the legal ramifications and repercussions on the use of deadly force.

  • Paladin

    It is the OBLIGATION of every concealed carry permit holder to be familiar with the laws governing the use of deadly force in their state of permitting.

    Zimmerman should be APPLAUDED for taking the course because I as a firearms instructor I see a lot of students who spend less time studying the legal requirements of owning and operating a firearm than they should.

    THEY are the folks that scare me, not folks like Zimmerman who accept the responsibilities of becoming a concealed carry holder and actually go out to learn the legal requirements as well as the legal ramifications and repercussions on the use of deadly force.

  • LC

    Mr Carter Is latino and Identifies with his Latino side.

    • LC

      Hes as African American as Sammy Sosa

      • tmunson15

        and Obama is as black as nelson mandela

        • LC

          Again you are talking about color not race. Mr Carter is Latino he is not African American.

        • LC

          Again you are talking about color not race. Mr Carter is Latino he is not African American.

          • tmunson15

            when most people hear the word “black” they automatically think “african american”… so that’s exactly my point…..

          • LC

            Nelson Mandela is not African American

          • tmunson15

            when most people hear the word “black” they automatically think “african american”… so that’s exactly my point…..

      • tmunson15

        and Obama is as black as nelson mandela

      • tmunson15

        and Obama is as black as nelson mandela

    • LC

      Hes as African American as Sammy Sosa

    • LC

      Hes as African American as Sammy Sosa

  • LC

    Mr Carter Is latino and Identifies with his Latino side.

  • LC

    Mr Carter Is latino and Identifies with his Latino side.

  • LC

    This guy is a black hispanic he is not african american. Just like Zimmerman is a white hispanic. Race and ethnicity are two different things.

  • LC

    This guy is a black hispanic he is not african american. Just like Zimmerman is a white hispanic. Race and ethnicity are two different things.

  • LC

    This guy is a black hispanic he is not african american. Just like Zimmerman is a white hispanic. Race and ethnicity are two different things.

  • Devasahayam

    Crore percent agreed — also how about we add Debra Nelson (the judge) as packet-deal and bin the key on both!?

  • Devasahayam

    Crore percent agreed — also how about we add Debra Nelson (the judge) as packet-deal and bin the key on both!?

  • Devasahayam

    Crore percent agreed — also how about we add Debra Nelson (the judge) as packet-deal and bin the key on both!?

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