Whatever Happened to Adam Kokesh?

Does anyone remember the pothead libertarian who was arrested by the federal government for filming himself loading a shotgun in Washington, DC? It’s like he just fell off the face of the planet. As a refresher, in early May of this year, Adam announced an armed and peaceful march on Washington, DC set for July 4 of 2013. I interviewed him and he said he would march alone if need be.

Shortly after that announcement, Adam was arrested on May 18th at a marijuana smoke-out rally in Philadelphia. He was charged with assaulting a federal officer and resisting arrest. According to the videotape footage the charges appear to be false. Adam Kokesh was released on May 24th.

Although the mass armed march on Washington, DC didn’t materialize, Adam kept good on his word and filmed himself loading a shotgun in Washington, DC at Freedom Plaza in violation of DC law. He then posted the video on YouTube. On July 9th his home was raided by a National Park Service SWAT team complete with helicopters. Adam was released on July 26th, but was immediately re-arrested by the Park Service on charges related to his July 4th YouTube video.

According to his girlfriend, Carey, who speaks with him as often as possible (sorry, Adam, no conjugal visits) Adam is doing fine in prison. He spent the first two months in solitary confinement, purportedly for his own protection. He had a bed but no mattress or chair or desk. He had enough food, but only enough calories to live a sedentary lifestyle. He’s been in trouble with prison administration because he checks too many books out of the prison library. On occasion he can send Facebook messages to his supporters, and he’s even planning a prison podcast. Two weeks ago he was moved to the general population and is making friends and influencing people. Apparently he has a captive audience, and he’s preaching his libertarian message of freedom to all the inmates. Next month Adam is scheduled for another hearing before a judge. In the meantime he’s just chilling, reading, and preaching libertarianism.

Why should you care about Adam Kokesh?

Like I said in my previous articles: He’s a pothead. He’s an atheist. He has a foul mouth. I would never want him dating my daughter. There are a lot of things to dislike about Adam Kokesh. But here’s the deal. If things don’t change in Washington, DC, Adam Kokesh is your future. Are you so naïve as to think the government will voluntarily shrink the size and scope of their intrusiveness or that they will give back freedoms lost? America has been on this slippery slope for decades, slouching toward Gomorrah and bondage.

Let’s cut through all the crap and admit that Adam Kokesh is guilty of violating a federal law that shouldn’t exist. Most gun laws are unconstitutional and should be revoked. When it comes to the Second Amendment, Adam Kokesh and I are of one mind, standing shoulder to shoulder, working to restore liberty to America. The only difference is our methodology.

But here’s the sad reality. It’s quite possible all freedom-loving Americans could be driven to civil disobedience before this whole thing is over. This time it was Adam Kokesh. Next time the Park Service could be kicking down your door and dragging you away. In my opinion, Adam Kokesh isn’t in prison for drug-related or firearm-related crimes. He’s in prison for pissing off the federal government. He stood up to them and they cut him out of the herd before he could spread his dissent. They are using Adam Kokesh to send a message to all of America. Resistance is futile. If you stand up to our tyranny, we will break down your door, handcuff you and put you in prison – for a very long time.

One of my favorite authors, Mark Twain, once said “In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however, the timid join him. For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot.”

So the question you have to ask and answer is this: “Is Adam Kokesh a patriot or a criminal?”

And why do so many conservatives dislike Adam? Is it because he pushes them to move outside their comfort zone? Is it because he makes them feel a tiny, secret twinge of guilt at their own inaction in the face of despotism?

And the question I have to ask is, “How much more time do I have before the federal government visits me merely for writing anything positive about Adam Kokesh. The day is coming. I see it looming. Get ready, folks.

Adam Kokesh is now prisoner number 338454. You can write him at this address:
Adam Kokesh
#338454
1901 E Street SE
Washington, DC 20003
Tell him Skip Coryell sent you.

Note: If you wish to contribute to Adam’s legal defense fund, go to http://www.adamvstheman.com/invest

Image: Ragesoss; cropped by Beyond My Ken; Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported, 2.5 Generic, 2.0 Generic and 1.0 Generic license

About the author: Skip Coryell

Skip Coryell lives with his wife and children in Michigan. Skip Coryell is the author of eight books including Blood in the Streets: Concealed Carry and the OK Corral, RKBA: Defending the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, The God Virus, and We Hold These Truths. He is the founder of The Second Amendment March and the President of White Feather Press. He is an avid hunter and sportsman, a Marine Corps veteran, and a graduate of Cornerstone University. For more details on Skip Coryell, or to contact him personally, go to his website at skipcoryell.com

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  • keep calm and return fire

    Sadly the future is bleak for America

  • keep calm and return fire

    Sadly the future is bleak for America

    • Pablo Descartes

      If the fiture of America is bleak, I’d rather she’s burnt to the ground in a war for Liberty than fundamentally transformed to Ameika

      • John Bowman

        Roger that.

      • John Bowman

        Roger that.

    • Pablo Descartes

      If the fiture of America is bleak, I’d rather she’s burnt to the ground in a war for Liberty than fundamentally transformed to Ameika

    • Pablo Descartes

      If the fiture of America is bleak, I’d rather she’s burnt to the ground in a war for Liberty than fundamentally transformed to Ameika

  • keep calm and return fire

    Sadly the future is bleak for America

  • Ben

    What’s wrong with being an Atheist? Why should that be an issue in any regard. It’s like saying he’s a christian, jew, wiccan or etc. Who cares. Anyway great article.

  • Ben

    What’s wrong with being an Atheist? Why should that be an issue in any regard. It’s like saying he’s a christian, jew, wiccan or etc. Who cares. Anyway great article.

    • Jacobb Chapman

      I agree.

    • Jacobb Chapman

      I agree.

    • Don Hawkes

      Ben , you asked ,”What’s wrong with being an atheist ?”
      There have been books written to answer that question but without going into great detail I will answer , ideas have consequences . Primarily the denial of the existence of God is an irrational escape from reality which can only be maintained by self deception . It is a concept alien to that of our nation’s founding fathers and the principles which guided their actions.

      They fought and some died to give their posterity liberty and prosperity because they believed God had endowed His creatures with certain unalienable (untransferable) rights .

      Atheists generally embrace Darwinian evolution and has man not God as their final authority . Their view of origins renders their worldview inconsistent and irrational. It is atheism that undergirds the eugenic programs embraced by Hitler and Darwinism influenced the “Progressive” era which has derailed or hijacked our Constitutional Republic and led us into our current unstable and socialistic situation.

      • jonahblock

        isn’t believing in god and an afterlife the real escape from reality?

        • edwood

          jonahblock,
          A perfect response utilizing an economy of words.
          Bravo!!!

        • SeRiOuSLy!!??

          thinking that everything from the beginning of time until now and through infinite space, is all chance, is beyond reality as atheist think. what a sad existence fighting tooth and nail to tear down everybody else’d beliefs, calling them ridiculous or what have you, convincing yourself its just the greatest thing that in the end its just black! nothing! i don’t know how atheist live with no hope, maybe thats why they’re so hell bent on making everybody else as miserable as they are because they can’t stand seeing people living for something so they have to try and take it away.

        • SeRiOuSLy!!??

          thinking that everything from the beginning of time until now and through infinite space, is all chance, is beyond reality as atheist think. what a sad existence fighting tooth and nail to tear down everybody else’d beliefs, calling them ridiculous or what have you, convincing yourself its just the greatest thing that in the end its just black! nothing! i don’t know how atheist live with no hope, maybe thats why they’re so hell bent on making everybody else as miserable as they are because they can’t stand seeing people living for something so they have to try and take it away.

          • vicki

            SOME entity had to create the laws of chance.

            Reality is that the Atheist must also have faith thus are religious.
            They can not prove the non-existence of God. For them I would offer Pascal’s wager.

            As to the claim that we can not prove the existence of God, I would disagree. We have but to look at the complex and precise laws of physics, all that has been discovered (not created) by science, to realize that this reality did not come from nothing.

            The cosmologist who says “I don’t know” is more honest than the atheist who says “there is not…”

          • vicki

            SOME entity had to create the laws of chance.

            Reality is that the Atheist must also have faith thus are religious.
            They can not prove the non-existence of God. For them I would offer Pascal’s wager.

            As to the claim that we can not prove the existence of God, I would disagree. We have but to look at the complex and precise laws of physics, all that has been discovered (not created) by science, to realize that this reality did not come from nothing.

            The cosmologist who says “I don’t know” is more honest than the atheist who says “there is not…”

          • jonahblock

            well I’m betting on this life not the next one

          • vicki

            For you I suggest Pascal’s wager

          • jonahblock

            well I’m betting on this life not the next one

          • jonahblock

            chance is chance. if you created it then it’s not chance

          • jonahblock

            chance is chance. if you created it then it’s not chance

          • jonahblock

            chance is chance. if you created it then it’s not chance

          • Tim

            No. You are wrong. Atheist does not state “there is not.”
            Think of it this way, if there was a jar of jellybeans in front of you and me, and you say “There are an even number of jellybeans in that jar.”
            I say, I don’t have enough evidence to agree so I am rejecting your claim that there are an even amount of jellybeans in that jar.
            That’s it. That does not thus state or assume that there are an odd number of jellybeans. It is taking the default position and the one that makes the claim needs to provide the evidence.

          • Mark Harrison Near

            Atheists believe that God does not exist, and they are certain. Agnostics say that short of some self revelation, you can’t know whether God exists or not. Christians agree with the agnostic position, except they believe that there has been significant revelation. They believe that they agnostics missed this news. Doesn’t “atheist” mean “no god”?

          • Tim

            No. You are wrong. Atheist does not state “there is not.”
            Think of it this way, if there was a jar of jellybeans in front of you and me, and you say “There are an even number of jellybeans in that jar.”
            I say, I don’t have enough evidence to agree so I am rejecting your claim that there are an even amount of jellybeans in that jar.
            That’s it. That does not thus state or assume that there are an odd number of jellybeans. It is taking the default position and the one that makes the claim needs to provide the evidence.

          • Tim

            No. You are wrong. Atheist does not state “there is not.”
            Think of it this way, if there was a jar of jellybeans in front of you and me, and you say “There are an even number of jellybeans in that jar.”
            I say, I don’t have enough evidence to agree so I am rejecting your claim that there are an even amount of jellybeans in that jar.
            That’s it. That does not thus state or assume that there are an odd number of jellybeans. It is taking the default position and the one that makes the claim needs to provide the evidence.

          • Don Hawkes

            The atheist who have considered the subject of the origin of the universe generally posit a belief in materialism. That once only matter and space existed . This “faith” creates a problem for them because they cannot explain the existence of abstract entities while remaining consistent with their worldview. There worldview becomes an irrational contradiction .
            The agnostics appear to be honest in declaring “I don’t know” but it astounds me how many adamantly reject God’s existence as a possibility .

          • jack

            when if ever had you had a atheist tell you not to be-leave? how many non atheist are there telling you how to be-leave in so many different ways under the sun?true atheist don’t care if you be-leave are not all they want is you be-leaver’s to stop trying to brainwash them too.

          • Aaron

            I agree with you Jack!

          • jonahblock

            well I have told people not to believe but I haven’t forced anyone

          • SeRiOuSLy!!??

            all the time by atheist and by the freedom from religion foundation suing everybody, saying the slightest hint of anything Christian is offensive to atheist like sunlight to vampires. funny how its just Christianity, i’d love for them to attack islam just to see how that goes after a few beheadings! as far as a church or somebody from a church trying to, as you put it, ‘make me’ believe. that can only happen if i subject myself to it by going. to say that ‘true atheist’ only want to have believers to stop brainwashing them, i find funny, wouldn’t you have to go to church for that? yet i don’t see Christians suing atheist forcing them to conform. yet atheist are suing and forcing this entire nation to not be able to do what they once did because you find it offensive! people can’t pray, the pledge not said in school-if your kid is atheist just have them not say ‘Under God’ why force our kids to not say the pledge at all? monuments under attack for having crosses or stars of david, ten commandments taken down-you know we can’t have basic rules to live by because of their association, Christmas decorations can’t be put up, nativity scenes removed, the f.f.r.f. rewarding high school students with scholarships for disruptive behavior as long as it promotes God being dead or fictional, arguments with authority figures on this subject if they are taking the atheist stance.
            the f.f.r.f. are basically acting like anarchist throwing fuel on the fire! causing as much trouble as possible, i’d be hard pressed to believe you don’t know what this group is doing on behalf of all atheist.
            tolerance in this country is extinct, especially in the last few years!

          • SeRiOuSLy!!??

            all the time by atheist and by the freedom from religion foundation suing everybody, saying the slightest hint of anything Christian is offensive to atheist like sunlight to vampires. funny how its just Christianity, i’d love for them to attack islam just to see how that goes after a few beheadings! as far as a church or somebody from a church trying to, as you put it, ‘make me’ believe. that can only happen if i subject myself to it by going. to say that ‘true atheist’ only want to have believers to stop brainwashing them, i find funny, wouldn’t you have to go to church for that? yet i don’t see Christians suing atheist forcing them to conform. yet atheist are suing and forcing this entire nation to not be able to do what they once did because you find it offensive! people can’t pray, the pledge not said in school-if your kid is atheist just have them not say ‘Under God’ why force our kids to not say the pledge at all? monuments under attack for having crosses or stars of david, ten commandments taken down-you know we can’t have basic rules to live by because of their association, Christmas decorations can’t be put up, nativity scenes removed, the f.f.r.f. rewarding high school students with scholarships for disruptive behavior as long as it promotes God being dead or fictional, arguments with authority figures on this subject if they are taking the atheist stance.
            the f.f.r.f. are basically acting like anarchist throwing fuel on the fire! causing as much trouble as possible, i’d be hard pressed to believe you don’t know what this group is doing on behalf of all atheist.
            tolerance in this country is extinct, especially in the last few years!

          • Don Hawkes

            Right Jack. That’s not been my experience .

          • jack

            when if ever had you had a atheist tell you not to be-leave? how many non atheist are there telling you how to be-leave in so many different ways under the sun?true atheist don’t care if you be-leave are not all they want is you be-leaver’s to stop trying to brainwash them too.

        • SeRiOuSLy!!??

          thinking that everything from the beginning of time until now and through infinite space, is all chance, is beyond reality as atheist think. what a sad existence fighting tooth and nail to tear down everybody else’d beliefs, calling them ridiculous or what have you, convincing yourself its just the greatest thing that in the end its just black! nothing! i don’t know how atheist live with no hope, maybe thats why they’re so hell bent on making everybody else as miserable as they are because they can’t stand seeing people living for something so they have to try and take it away.

        • RED1958

          LOL…..Believing that you derived from Apes through an Evolutionary Process is the Actual Escape from Reality!! When anyone with any kind of Education knows that if we had evolved in that way, there would no longer still be Apes on the Planet!!
          Nothing on Earth that Evolves from something still Remains!! Unless of Course your Thought Processes are really Eskew. And you think that the Apes that Remain to this Day is in some way our Relatives!!

          • jonahblock

            we didn’t evolve from apes… we have common ancestors with apes. if evolution wasn’t real then we wouldn’t need to worry about virus becoming immune to vaccines

          • Misty Lee

            adaptation is not the same as evolution, viruses do not evolve, they adapt. And the Theory of Evolution is, wait for it… a theory. Until a theory is proven, it is not a fact. Seriously, ask ANY scientist, evolution is just the best guess at this point. Until the missing link is found, Creationism holds as much water as Evolutionism, both unproven theories and both improperly stated as fact by their supporters.

          • Misty Lee

            adaptation is not the same as evolution, viruses do not evolve, they adapt. And the Theory of Evolution is, wait for it… a theory. Until a theory is proven, it is not a fact. Seriously, ask ANY scientist, evolution is just the best guess at this point. Until the missing link is found, Creationism holds as much water as Evolutionism, both unproven theories and both improperly stated as fact by their supporters.

          • jonahblock

            like the “theory of gravity?” anyhow adaption and evolution are the same thing. anyhow I don’t know what kind of education you had but don;t know the difference between guess work and scientific theory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

          • Oldmonkey

            Science is educated guesswork, with the spices of politics, money, power, and control of others. When the mega continent broke apart millions of years ago into many continents, which continue to move there was climate change. There have been Ice Ages, and droughts long before man. Weather changes through seasons, relative distance from the sun, and solar flares. Global Warning is one of many failed scientific hoaxes, including much of the theory in the social sciences.

            Religions were developed by people in different societies and circumstances to cope with the same problems. Most when properly practiced by leaving your neighbor alone to practice his, contribute to a civil society. Your faith if you have one, is your only possession after your last breath before you reincarnate, go to heaven, go to hell, or cease to exist. All religions promise an answer; like clothes, pick something comfortable that fits.

          • Don Hawkes

            Macro evolution falls into the category of the historical sciences which of necessity is seperated from the scientific method and relies on abductive logic . It is not a theory at all because it has not been observed and has not been tested by empiracle experiments. It remains a hypothesis and historical science which reads like a mystery novel full of shoulda coulda woulda’s is nothing but guesswork.

          • jonahblock

            like the “theory of gravity?” anyhow adaption and evolution are the same thing. anyhow I don’t know what kind of education you had but don;t know the difference between guess work and scientific theory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

          • Don Hawkes

            Yes I state that creation is a fact. The proof of God is the impossibility of the contrary .

          • Matt Schenkel

            right… cause a book written 2000 years ago by who knows how many authors, then transcribed into dozens of different languages, and edited and re-edited has a lot more credibility than 200 years of scientific study and research.

          • silverfox

            Theory trumps facts, always. Theories in science explain how or why a fact is a fact. You’re confusing the theory as in “hypothesis” with what theory really means in science. And if you really don’t want to believe in evolution, then you might want to stop going to your doctor, for any reason. His/her knowledge in biology is based on the “theory” of evolution, much less worrying about how and why we have to create new ways to fight viruses because they become immune to their treatments.. This is why the human immune system can continue to become infected with the flu time after time. It’s not the same virus, you can call it whatever you want, but that doesn’t mean you know what you’re talking about. Don’t believe me if you want, just ask your doctor next time you’re there, then feel free to be thankful someone came up with said “theory”. Where is your god now.

          • silverfox

            Theory trumps facts, always. Theories in science explain how or why a fact is a fact. You’re confusing the theory as in “hypothesis” with what theory really means in science. And if you really don’t want to believe in evolution, then you might want to stop going to your doctor, for any reason. His/her knowledge in biology is based on the “theory” of evolution, much less worrying about how and why we have to create new ways to fight viruses because they become immune to their treatments.. This is why the human immune system can continue to become infected with the flu time after time. It’s not the same virus, you can call it whatever you want, but that doesn’t mean you know what you’re talking about. Don’t believe me if you want, just ask your doctor next time you’re there, then feel free to be thankful someone came up with said “theory”. Where is your god now.

          • Don Hawkes

            There is a difference between micro and macro evolution. No one disputes the changes which occur within a species adapting to the environment . Many people dispute the claim of evolving from one species into another and common ancestry. There is no evidence for it .

          • ah s

            “if we had evolved in that way, there would no longer still be Apes on the Planet!!”
            Hmm never thought, nor read this before. Is it true? Pondering…
            No religion should be denied or propped up~seems the problem. Most agree, to each there own-or up to you, if you want to burn in…

          • silverfox

            Wrong, sounds to me like you’ve never taken a class on the topic but you’re speaking false information you picked up from somewhere. There are many different types of ape. WE DID NOT EVOLVE FROM APES. We evolved from an ancestor of apes. I suggest doing so research on the topic before you take your non PhD misinformation and try to debunk decades of real science done by real PhD’s.

          • ah s

            “if we had evolved in that way, there would no longer still be Apes on the Planet!!”
            Hmm never thought, nor read this before. Is it true? Pondering…
            No religion should be denied or propped up~seems the problem. Most agree, to each there own-or up to you, if you want to burn in…

          • silverfox

            Completely wrong, seems fitting coming from you though as you have properly expressed how little you actually know about the topic or about evolution itself. Please, for your own sake, do some research on it. After all, you don’t have to agree with it, as 90% of the scientific community does so much to the point that modern biology is based on it. Just research for your own sake so you know how to make a real argument about it. We didn’t evolve from apes. That’s no where near what the theory states. We evolved from an ancestor of an ape, a very very long time ago, of which are no longer around anymore. Look it up for yourself. After all, your doctor was only able to get that title by completing the required courses in biology which is based on the theory of evolution, lol. Every time you go to that doc apt, you are treated with information that was acquired from the theory of evolution lol. Just so you’re are aware lol.. Where is your god now lol… Because your doctor sure as hell didn’t become a doctor by reading a bible, lmao..

          • silverfox

            Completely wrong, seems fitting coming from you though as you have properly expressed how little you actually know about the topic or about evolution itself. Please, for your own sake, do some research on it. After all, you don’t have to agree with it, as 90% of the scientific community does so much to the point that modern biology is based on it. Just research for your own sake so you know how to make a real argument about it. We didn’t evolve from apes. That’s no where near what the theory states. We evolved from an ancestor of an ape, a very very long time ago, of which are no longer around anymore. Look it up for yourself. After all, your doctor was only able to get that title by completing the required courses in biology which is based on the theory of evolution, lol. Every time you go to that doc apt, you are treated with information that was acquired from the theory of evolution lol. Just so you’re are aware lol.. Where is your god now lol… Because your doctor sure as hell didn’t become a doctor by reading a bible, lmao..

        • RED1958

          LOL…..Believing that you derived from Apes through an Evolutionary Process is the Actual Escape from Reality!! When anyone with any kind of Education knows that if we had evolved in that way, there would no longer still be Apes on the Planet!!
          Nothing on Earth that Evolves from something still Remains!! Unless of Course your Thought Processes are really Eskew. And you think that the Apes that Remain to this Day is in some way our Relatives!!

        • RED1958

          LOL…..Believing that you derived from Apes through an Evolutionary Process is the Actual Escape from Reality!! When anyone with any kind of Education knows that if we had evolved in that way, there would no longer still be Apes on the Planet!!
          Nothing on Earth that Evolves from something still Remains!! Unless of Course your Thought Processes are really Eskew. And you think that the Apes that Remain to this Day is in some way our Relatives!!

        • sickofthis

          If I’ve said this once…”there are no such people as athiests….only souls who have not yet known God”…now, I’m no Bible thumper…but given the right circumstances…..you will begin to HOPE that you were wrong. Escape from reality? Not hardly, belief that you are not the result of some accidental space circumstance…or the evolutionary progress of an animal is the real escape from reality. Look around you…What reasonable explanation can you give for life, nature, intelligence, and progress other than a Divine presence?

        • sickofthis

          If I’ve said this once…”there are no such people as athiests….only souls who have not yet known God”…now, I’m no Bible thumper…but given the right circumstances…..you will begin to HOPE that you were wrong. Escape from reality? Not hardly, belief that you are not the result of some accidental space circumstance…or the evolutionary progress of an animal is the real escape from reality. Look around you…What reasonable explanation can you give for life, nature, intelligence, and progress other than a Divine presence?

          • silverfox

            Yes, that’s right, they’re only people that haven’t yet met the thing that doesn’t exist that crazy people swear is real so we’re the crazy people… seems legit. I wish people would just stop and at least think about what they say before they say it. No wonder religion is so powerful, how could they not control people that think this way. It’s baffling really.

        • sickofthis

          If I’ve said this once…”there are no such people as athiests….only souls who have not yet known God”…now, I’m no Bible thumper…but given the right circumstances…..you will begin to HOPE that you were wrong. Escape from reality? Not hardly, belief that you are not the result of some accidental space circumstance…or the evolutionary progress of an animal is the real escape from reality. Look around you…What reasonable explanation can you give for life, nature, intelligence, and progress other than a Divine presence?

        • Don Hawkes

          Not at all. How’s that for economy of words ?

        • Don Hawkes

          Not at all. How’s that for economy of words ?

        • Damian B

          doesn’t the ability to fathom the big bang theory lend itself to the same ability to fathom intelligent design? I mean if the gasses that came together to form the universe always existed wouldn’t that also suggest the possibility of a God that always existed as well? Just curious.

      • jonahblock

        isn’t believing in god and an afterlife the real escape from reality?

      • JJB

        I don’t know where you get your information from, but please go back and do some research. The Founding Fathers were not religious men in the slightest. Seriously, do some research instead of clogging up pages with this verbal diarrhea.

      • JJB

        I don’t know where you get your information from, but please go back and do some research. The Founding Fathers were not religious men in the slightest. Seriously, do some research instead of clogging up pages with this verbal diarrhea.

        • David_Rogers_Hunt

          Check out
          http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html for more. Technically the Founding Fathers were Deists. For the definitive essay by a Founding Father on this, check out Thomas Paine’s http://www.deism.com/images/theageofreason1794.pdf

          You will probably be surprised if you read these two. Therefore a “COGNITIVE DISSONANCE” warning is given. BEWARE!

        • David_Rogers_Hunt

          Check out
          http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html for more. Technically the Founding Fathers were Deists. For the definitive essay by a Founding Father on this, check out Thomas Paine’s http://www.deism.com/images/theageofreason1794.pdf

          You will probably be surprised if you read these two. Therefore a “COGNITIVE DISSONANCE” warning is given. BEWARE!

          • Mark Harrison Near

            Some founding fathers were deists. Some were Unitarians. Some were Trinitarians, like Presbyterians and Episcopalians. I am a Presbyterian. I don’t describe myself as a deist, though technically, we are theists, as are deists. Saying they were not religious though, is beyond the pale. Unbelievable that someone would be so incredibly misinformed and try to teach others.

          • Don Hawkes

            Tom Paine was a Deist and a couple others such as Franklin although Franklin’s rhetoric was unlike what you would expect from a deist. Most held some orthodox view of the variant Christian denominations present in the colonies .
            Paine was advised by Franklin not to publish his “Age of Reason” because it would not be well received in America . Paine did publish it and soon after left America to participate in the French revolution . He ended up in a French prison , held by the revolutionairies , possibly because he disagreed with the actions of the radical atheists ,and at his death in New England was poor and unpopular with only a handful of mourners attending his funeral .

        • Don Hawkes

          I ‘ve done plenty of historical research and could cite many examples to support the claim that the founding fathers were not “religious” but Christians. I will refer you to the Supreme Court decision U.S. v Holy Trinity 1893? . Read it and learn. You may also read the state constitutions or the first census . Now be a good boy and do your homework .

      • Brian Jeffs

        Don, just about everything you said is incorrect.

        eugenics is not an atheist platform, Hitler was a Christian. Evolution is the best explanation for the diversity of life on this planet and has nothing to do with atheism.

        The acceptance of a god with no evidence seems to me to be the deception.

        The FF’s were deist if not downright closet atheist. And if they had been alive now and exposed to the fact of evolution, I suspect most of them would be atheists.

        The final authority is the smallest minority, the individual.

      • Brian Jeffs

        Don, just about everything you said is incorrect.

        eugenics is not an atheist platform, Hitler was a Christian. Evolution is the best explanation for the diversity of life on this planet and has nothing to do with atheism.

        The acceptance of a god with no evidence seems to me to be the deception.

        The FF’s were deist if not downright closet atheist. And if they had been alive now and exposed to the fact of evolution, I suspect most of them would be atheists.

        The final authority is the smallest minority, the individual.

        • vicki

          Hitler was a Christian.

          Hitler may have thought himself a Christian but his actions, which is what Christ warned us to watch for, speak a different tale.

          Evolution is the best explanation for the diversity of life on this planet and has nothing to do with atheism.

          And is still a theory. One that has some criticism
          http://www.examiner.com/article/charles-darwin-wrong-modern-scientists-debunk-darwin-s-tree-of-life-diagram

          The acceptance of a god with no evidence seems to me to be the deception.

          We have lots of evidence.
          http://www.godandscience.org/

          The final authority is the smallest minority, the individual.

          The final authority for THAT individual. None the less governments are instituted among men to protect the individual and society from force

          • jonahblock

            lol at using the “examiner” as evendence

          • jonahblock

            lol at using the “examiner” as evendence

          • jonahblock

            lol at using the “examiner” as evendence

          • Gordon

            LOL, “evidence” is not using quotes from a book to “prove” the contents of the book are correct.

          • Gordon

            LOL, “evidence” is not using quotes from a book to “prove” the contents of the book are correct.

          • Brian Jeffs

            The point is Hitler was a christian and far from an atheist which is what Don posted. The quality of his Christianity is subjective.

            You have no idea what a scientific theory is. It’s as close to fact as we get. You may be thinking of a Hypotheses. http://www.notjustatheory.com/

            There is zero scientific evidence for a god. None. If there was no one would be an atheist, especially scientists.

            We have only the authority we allow. Governments are created to use force to control the individual, not protect it from force. If that wasn’t true no one would pay taxes.

          • silverfox

            Correct. The staggering absence of intelligence on this page, and I’m not talking about you, is just astounding. It’s like google exist, libraries are still in existence and no one can bother to look anything up at least before they try to argue something. I just wanted to add to your comment about the majority of scientist are Atheist, which is true. I believe the figure is something like 90% of them do not accept the belief in the supernatural.

          • silverfox

            Correct. The staggering absence of intelligence on this page, and I’m not talking about you, is just astounding. It’s like google exist, libraries are still in existence and no one can bother to look anything up at least before they try to argue something. I just wanted to add to your comment about the majority of scientist are Atheist, which is true. I believe the figure is something like 90% of them do not accept the belief in the supernatural.

        • RED1958

          If you read The Federalist Papers, you would get a Firm Grasp of what the Founders thought and Believed In!! You Would Find that they PRAYED TO A HEAVENLY FATHER FOR GUIDANCE DURING THE WRITING OF OUR CONSTITUTION!! All this about them being Deists or Closet Atheists is Nothing More than Revisionist History that was Written By Fools, For Fools!!!

        • http://clashdaily.com/author/roncollins/ R.Collins

          go spend some time reading over at Wallbuilders.com where page after page of original documents from our FF are on display.

          There can be no doubt the vast majority of these men believed in God Almighty, the Creator.

          Revisionist history and some deep atheistic scholar saying otherwise does not make the ‘deist theory’ correct.

        • http://clashdaily.com/author/roncollins/ R.Collins

          go spend some time reading over at Wallbuilders.com where page after page of original documents from our FF are on display.

          There can be no doubt the vast majority of these men believed in God Almighty, the Creator.

          Revisionist history and some deep atheistic scholar saying otherwise does not make the ‘deist theory’ correct.

        • Don Hawkes

          Brian, I stand by my statement as the evidence supports it.
          I never said eugenics was an atheist platform . Eugenics was an area of research popular among the Darwinist and very popular with the Nazis . Hitler may have at one time been a Christian. I do not know . But I do know that after making a deal with the Church leaders in order to gain power he betrayed them and attacked the Church, using his power to transform it into a Nazi indoctrination institution. Dietrick Bonhoeffer was a minister who resisted the transformation and led a small contingent of Churches that remained faithful to the creeds and confessions .He was executed near the end of the war.
          The evidence for God is all around you and in you . So tell me Brian, what makes your final authority superior to anyone elses ? What is the standard of your morality ?

          • silverfox

            The church made a deal with Hitler and granted him asylum should he need a place to go if his plans went wrong. Up until the 50′s, the Vatican church had a calender with his birthday, which they celebrated every year, marked on it. They not only granted Hitler asylum but many many other Nazis as well. This is fact. This is not hard information to get a hold of either and it’s free at that.

          • Don Hawkes

            The Church I referred to was the established state Church of Germany, the Lutheran Church. I am aware that there was a concordat (treary) signed with the Roman Catholic Church. As far as I know Hitler did not attempt to alter the Catholic Church the way he did the Lutheran congregations . The machinations and intrique of the Catholic Church, especially the Jesuit order is a fascinating topic. It must be stated that in the opinion of millions of Christians the deviation from the Bible of the Catholic Church in the central doctrine of salvation by faith alone renders the Roman Catholic Church an apostate cult .

          • silverfox

            100% correct. Well stated sir. People of these particular faiths like to try and say that Hitler was an Atheist when he clearly wasn’t which shows like what you were saying that they are as crooked as politicians are and they spread about as much propaganda as Russia and China do. Denial is a terrible thing. I agree with you thought for sure. I’ve done a lot of research on the matter because the best way to have someone take advantage of you is to not be educated on the issues.

          • Don Hawkes

            I must say for the sake of clarity that the deals Hitler made with the Church appear to be motivated by his political need and in no way reflect his religious beliefs. His behaviour after gaining power does not conform to the moral standard of any major religion I know of except that of Secular Humanism which is firmly rooted in the pseudo science of macro biological evolution . It is an historical fact that the Nazi government supported eugenics research on unwitting subjects and of course the Final Solution for the “Jewish Question” is a logical conclusion from the atheistic/ evolutionary worldview . This is not meant to demonize those good moral atheists but to draw attention to their inconsistency. What is their standard for morality ? For the Christian it is the Law of God . How does an atheist determine right and wrong, good and evil ?

          • silverfox

            100% correct. Well stated sir. People of these particular faiths like to try and say that Hitler was an Atheist when he clearly wasn’t which shows like what you were saying that they are as crooked as politicians are and they spread about as much propaganda as Russia and China do. Denial is a terrible thing. I agree with you thought for sure. I’ve done a lot of research on the matter because the best way to have someone take advantage of you is to not be educated on the issues.

          • Don Hawkes

            The Church I referred to was the established state Church of Germany, the Lutheran Church. I am aware that there was a concordat (treary) signed with the Roman Catholic Church. As far as I know Hitler did not attempt to alter the Catholic Church the way he did the Lutheran congregations . The machinations and intrique of the Catholic Church, especially the Jesuit order is a fascinating topic. It must be stated that in the opinion of millions of Christians the deviation from the Bible of the Catholic Church in the central doctrine of salvation by faith alone renders the Roman Catholic Church an apostate cult .

          • silverfox

            The church made a deal with Hitler and granted him asylum should he need a place to go if his plans went wrong. Up until the 50′s, the Vatican church had a calender with his birthday, which they celebrated every year, marked on it. They not only granted Hitler asylum but many many other Nazis as well. This is fact. This is not hard information to get a hold of either and it’s free at that.

      • Justin

        I am not a Atheist to escape from reality, it is quite the contrary. I don’t trust in something that has not been verified after its inception countless thousands of years ago, nor do I trust in some unknown entity that can’t be seen or heard to guide my one life I have. Our founding fathers may have been guided by “God” or a religion, but they also gave us the freedom to think and follow whatever we like. One only has to read the bible, or Quran, and any religions books and text to see what having a “God” will bring men and women to do. Wars, murders, rape, attempted extinction of entire nations, burning of whole cities to rid them of “evil” this “God” deemed to be bad. Your view of why we are “unstable” and our “inconsistent and irrational worldview” is based on your opinion, as wrong as it may be, it is your opinion. Hitler was brought up as a christian, NOT the atheist they try to make him out to be. German Christians were taught at the time to HATE jews, and even before hitler came along, took every opportunity to persecute jews. We are in our current situation because our leaders have had their power expanded and expanded, they are becoming drunk on power, and we are paying the price.

        • Don Hawkes

          That is an interesting perspective but inconsistent with historical reality. The atheistic communist Soviet Union was a nation involved in world conquest and murdered millions of its own citizens as did the atheist communist China . History records human atrocities everywhere the atheists gain control, beginning with the French revolution.
          It is true that there is a natural antipathy between Jews and Christians. One might ask why since the first Church consisted of nothing but Jews . Could it be that the Jewish leadership advocated the illegal trial and execution of the Messiah ? Could it be that this same leadership murdered Stephen and commissioned Saul of Tarsus to purge the Christian community?
          Could it be that instead of embracing their prophesied Messiah they rejected Him and after judgment fell upon them in compliance with the covenant they established a completely new religion based upon rabbi worship whose teaching may admit anything except the acceptance of Messiah. These are those who John describes in his first an second epistle as antichrists.
          Now this does not justify the barbaric treatment they received at the hands of the unchristian Nazi regime. The Nazi conquest was by no means a just war but one of aggression . In fact the preemptive strike on Checkoslavakia may have been the incident used as a pattern by G. Bush for invading Afghanistan and Iraq. Nothing just about those wars of aggression either and I find it disturbing that the American Church is not protesting it . Does history really repeat itself ?

      • Justin

        I am not a Atheist to escape from reality, it is quite the contrary. I don’t trust in something that has not been verified after its inception countless thousands of years ago, nor do I trust in some unknown entity that can’t be seen or heard to guide my one life I have. Our founding fathers may have been guided by “God” or a religion, but they also gave us the freedom to think and follow whatever we like. One only has to read the bible, or Quran, and any religions books and text to see what having a “God” will bring men and women to do. Wars, murders, rape, attempted extinction of entire nations, burning of whole cities to rid them of “evil” this “God” deemed to be bad. Your view of why we are “unstable” and our “inconsistent and irrational worldview” is based on your opinion, as wrong as it may be, it is your opinion. Hitler was brought up as a christian, NOT the atheist they try to make him out to be. German Christians were taught at the time to HATE jews, and even before hitler came along, took every opportunity to persecute jews. We are in our current situation because our leaders have had their power expanded and expanded, they are becoming drunk on power, and we are paying the price.

      • Robert C Dare

        religion has also breeded the same logic. remember the Crusades? have to purge those non believers by the sword. an existence of a “god” cannot be proven nor rationalized collectivly, it can however be rationalized as an individual i suppose, but what rationality is that based upon? not all atheist belive in darwinian theory. Since “god” cannot be proven beyond a reaosnable doubt then you have to look upon science to prove something that isnt . you cant prove something that you put faith in. what prove could you offer that says ” see I have it this is proof that God exists” . it has to be unquestionable support to a deity to belive in a god. and lets face it gods are about as authortarian as Mao Tsetung, free choice doesnt exist in alot of religions, you have “rules” which says “you cant do this” or else. not much for a choice .

      • Robert C Dare

        religion has also breeded the same logic. remember the Crusades? have to purge those non believers by the sword. an existence of a “god” cannot be proven nor rationalized collectivly, it can however be rationalized as an individual i suppose, but what rationality is that based upon? not all atheist belive in darwinian theory. Since “god” cannot be proven beyond a reaosnable doubt then you have to look upon science to prove something that isnt . you cant prove something that you put faith in. what prove could you offer that says ” see I have it this is proof that God exists” . it has to be unquestionable support to a deity to belive in a god. and lets face it gods are about as authortarian as Mao Tsetung, free choice doesnt exist in alot of religions, you have “rules” which says “you cant do this” or else. not much for a choice .

        • http://clashdaily.com/author/roncollins/ R.Collins

          The Crusades…..that argument is so lame, its almost like the race card being played by the race hustlers; old, boring, wrong and worn out.

          People need to educate themselves about the Crusades before spouting nonsense. You sir, just spouted a lot of it.

          • Robert C Dare

            im an epistemologist so prove the crusades even happened? prove anything happened without refering to a book or a what someone else has said or may have done.

          • Robert C Dare

            you cant even prove the crusades even ever happened, so whose spouting what. provide me proof the crusades happend without retorting to i read it here or someone told me. the simple answer is you cant prove anything. sometime I dont KNOW is the best answer. circular logic doesnt really work well in proving something. i mean for gods sake, peoples till think Edison invented the lightbulb(which was false) but even you cant prove that he did or didnt

          • Robert C Dare

            you cant even prove the crusades even ever happened, so whose spouting what. provide me proof the crusades happend without retorting to i read it here or someone told me. the simple answer is you cant prove anything. sometime I dont KNOW is the best answer. circular logic doesnt really work well in proving something. i mean for gods sake, peoples till think Edison invented the lightbulb(which was false) but even you cant prove that he did or didnt

        • http://clashdaily.com/author/roncollins/ R.Collins

          The Crusades…..that argument is so lame, its almost like the race card being played by the race hustlers; old, boring, wrong and worn out.

          People need to educate themselves about the Crusades before spouting nonsense. You sir, just spouted a lot of it.

        • Don Hawkes

          Robert , have you ever studied the crusades ? If so you know that they were in response to the threat of Mohammedan conquest . The Muslims conquered the middle east and northern Africa. They conquered Spain and parts of eastern Europe and had at one point invaded France . Christianity has oft been vilified for the crusades and I believe it is true that some behavior of the crusaders was inexcuseable, especially in view of Biblical morality but there does exist a legitimate philosophy of just war which I believe the crusades were.

          The proof of God is the impossibility of the contrary.

          • Robert C Dare

            it wasnt the action i was getting at. it was the belief system that made it justified to partake in that action. the indoctrination of those soldiers to spur them into action is what im getting at.I have studied the crusades and i cannot rpove that it happened as it was told or not. provide me proof of the crusades motives. proof is what i need and even if you had so called proof , where did that come from? im an epistemologist you cant prove or disprove anything really, it all comes down to circular logic.

          • Robert C Dare

            it wasnt the action i was getting at. it was the belief system that made it justified to partake in that action. the indoctrination of those soldiers to spur them into action is what im getting at.I have studied the crusades and i cannot rpove that it happened as it was told or not. provide me proof of the crusades motives. proof is what i need and even if you had so called proof , where did that come from? im an epistemologist you cant prove or disprove anything really, it all comes down to circular logic.

        • Don Hawkes

          Robert , have you ever studied the crusades ? If so you know that they were in response to the threat of Mohammedan conquest . The Muslims conquered the middle east and northern Africa. They conquered Spain and parts of eastern Europe and had at one point invaded France . Christianity has oft been vilified for the crusades and I believe it is true that some behavior of the crusaders was inexcuseable, especially in view of Biblical morality but there does exist a legitimate philosophy of just war which I believe the crusades were.

          The proof of God is the impossibility of the contrary.

      • jack

        you said it is “an irrational escape from reality”what your reality is brainwashing that is way atheist are really hated they are not brainwashed an it is much harder to sell them some fake bag of goods and call it for your own good you need to believe you need to give up the true fun life for a book on how to live your life.Now that my fine friend is reality.

        • Don Hawkes

          Jack, perhaps you would benefit from a remedial English course .

        • Don Hawkes

          Jack, perhaps you would benefit from a remedial English course .

      • Uncle Arty

        you people are the reason we can’t have nice things anymore, just shut up and go away

        • Don Hawkes

          You first .

        • Don Hawkes

          You first .

      • Uncle Arty

        you people are the reason we can’t have nice things anymore, just shut up and go away

      • Oldmonkey

        Some of the Founders were Deists, and a clue which ones can be found in concepts like “Natural Law, or Law’s of Nature.” The slippery slope we are on now was caused by the 17th Amendment which came from the Progressives. Sovereignty of the individual in the Constitution was expressed by citizens voting for Congress, and sovereignty of the state by its elected officials appointing senators. As a further check on federal power in “The Bill of Rights” the 9th Amendment protects the individual, and the 10 Amendment, the states. Direct election by the public allows federal assault on the states as a political entity not letting states handle their affairs.

        • Don Hawkes

          Good comment but I see no disconnect in a Christian who perceives natural law . It is sound biblical doctrine that God reveals Himself generally in nature and specially in inspired writings . William Blackstone wrote a commentary on English Common Law and stated that it was the result of the laws of nature and nature’s God . He described this God as the One who revealed Himself also in a book. It’s interesting that the laws of this nation have their origin with the English Common Law. Mass. used the Mosaic law for its legal code .

          • Oldmonkey

            Deists do believe in a God, but are more into divine revelation using nature itself, scientific discovery, and introspection. They don’t believe in miracles, speaking in tongues, nor were they big on evangelism. Thinking of a Venn Diagram, they are about an 80% overlap with traditional Christian thought.

          • Oldmonkey

            Deists do believe in a God, but are more into divine revelation using nature itself, scientific discovery, and introspection. They don’t believe in miracles, speaking in tongues, nor were they big on evangelism. Thinking of a Venn Diagram, they are about an 80% overlap with traditional Christian thought.

        • Don Hawkes

          Good comment but I see no disconnect in a Christian who perceives natural law . It is sound biblical doctrine that God reveals Himself generally in nature and specially in inspired writings . William Blackstone wrote a commentary on English Common Law and stated that it was the result of the laws of nature and nature’s God . He described this God as the One who revealed Himself also in a book. It’s interesting that the laws of this nation have their origin with the English Common Law. Mass. used the Mosaic law for its legal code .

      • jiggityjigg

        lmao. Believing in God is the escape from reality. A very weakened soul who needs comfort, stability, support, and immortality that life does not provide. Don’t have a family? No worries you have God. Don’t have a good paying job, a spouse that cares for you, kids that say I love you, friends that like you, etc etc…No worries, you have God. Lols. Believing in God is moreso for people who cannot deal with the reality of life and put all their doubts, worries, and insecurities in a, STILL POSSIBLE, afterlife, yet completely denounce reality as the ultimate reality. This is why people can kill and die in the name of God because they’re brainwashed. To balance these dichotomies in a perfect elixir of reality and love is where the evolution of the human mind and race will begin. It’s already happening, but not at a fast enough pace evidently.

        • Don Hawkes

          Now that truly is funny . Thank you for the comedy relief .

          • jiggityjigg

            it’s funny how you correlate Hitler to atheism and our founding fathers to believers in God. Anecdotal evidence is cute. What I do know is there have been more killing in the name of God than atheism. You can believe in magic land, while I’ll believe in reality and still be good to people

          • jiggityjigg

            it’s funny how you correlate Hitler to atheism and our founding fathers to believers in God. Anecdotal evidence is cute. What I do know is there have been more killing in the name of God than atheism. You can believe in magic land, while I’ll believe in reality and still be good to people

          • Don Hawkes

            I have referred here to the atheist governments of communist Soviet Union and communist China which expose your statement as false . They combined have murdered a roughly estimated 150 million people .
            I am thankful that you are good to people . I assume that you embrace as a hypothesis of origins a materialistic view of the origin of the universe, a chance chemical combination/reaction view of abiogenesis and a macro biological view of evolution. Correct me if I’m wrong. If I am correct I must assert that this view requires much more faith in magic than is possible to legitimately infer concerning my view. Furthermore it is entirely contractory, irrational and counter intuitive.
            Allow me to ask what is your standard in defining good ? How can you explain the existence of abstract entities and remain consistent with a materialist worldview ? What you have referred to as magic I recognize as the power of God whose existence and behaviour is totally consistent with all that we observe.

          • jiggityjigg

            You’re wrong in the fact that you’re correlating Communism and atheism with murder and is the reason for millions of deaths. That’s a logical fallacy; people, or governments, who do not believe in God are grouped as atheists and kill because “they don’t believe in God”. On the contrary, people deliberately killing others to subjugate religion onto them is measurable and valid.
            Your premise is based on faith alone. That’s what religion is unless, of course, you count the Bible (rolls eyes). The fact that we can now take pictures of the cosmic microwave background radiation of the Big Bang tells us something; The beginning of this Universe is measurable and real. Whether you want to argue an ethereal entity created that is a futile debate as no one has the answers right now. Even if we were able to create a Big Bang and another Universe, that doesn’t prove or disprove there’s a God. Simultaneously, for anyone to argue everything we see is solely a God’s doing is just as easily sectioned off as invalid.
            There’s nothing that proves either definitely. Good, as well as something like love, is a loaded measure. Abstractedly, without bad, you cannot have good to compare it to. So what’s good? I can answer that, but would take too long. Pragmatically, it’s being compassionately empathetic as long as you are neurologically intact.
            So why again should people rather believe in something non concrete when everything we can acknowledge with our senses is concrete? Back to faith again? Isolated spiritual encounters that cannot be proven? Gotcha. The fact that we cannot experience things through our senses does not exclude it from reality, but to believe in THAT as the absolute reality is called “whatever our imagination can come up with”, except you’re limited by a book haha. I’d rather grow up and not live in a children’s book… and create “heaven” on Earth. And that would include ultimate movements in both materialistic/technological advancements while preserving nature as well as understanding the spiritual/unknown aspects of life. Both in harmony.

          • Don Hawkes

            Gotcha ? Wow , you sure blew me out of the water didn’t you ?
            Not really.
            What you refer to as a logical fallacy is actually recorded history. It’s hard to deny without first rewriting it.
            Thank you for the comment. It serves as evidence to support my prior statement ,”I must assert that this view requires much more faith in magic than is possible to legitimately infer concerning my view. Furthermore it is entirely contractory, irrational and counter intuitive.”
            For example your statement ,”The fact that we can now take pictures of the cosmic microwave background radiation of the Big Bang tells us something; The beginning of this Universe is measurable and real.” is as all “historical science” nothing more than speculation on the part of those who have a prior commentment and bias to an unproven and unproveable event . Cosmic microwave background radiation interpretation , just as modern dating methods, require unproven and unproveable assumptions to be made. It is therefore, strictly speaking , not science.
            You speak of the big bang as fact and our senses being a standard as long as they are neurologically intact. So it appears that you are a materialist. Materialists find it difficult to explain the existence of abstract entities while remaining consistent with their worldview. Actually it is impossible.
            I will leave you with this, “The proof of God is the impossibility of the contrary” .
            Gotcha !!

          • Don Hawkes

            I have referred here to the atheist governments of communist Soviet Union and communist China which expose your statement as false . They combined have murdered a roughly estimated 150 million people .
            I am thankful that you are good to people . I assume that you embrace as a hypothesis of origins a materialistic view of the origin of the universe, a chance chemical combination/reaction view of abiogenesis and a macro biological view of evolution. Correct me if I’m wrong. If I am correct I must assert that this view requires much more faith in magic than is possible to legitimately infer concerning my view. Furthermore it is entirely contractory, irrational and counter intuitive.
            Allow me to ask what is your standard in defining good ? How can you explain the existence of abstract entities and remain consistent with a materialist worldview ? What you have referred to as magic I recognize as the power of God whose existence and behaviour is totally consistent with all that we observe.

        • Don Hawkes

          Now that truly is funny . Thank you for the comedy relief .

      • sproutable

        Holy crap? Really? Let’s just deny science and go on belief a bit more. That sounds absolutely rational. Then you start busting out the founding fathers? Didn’t you get the memo about church and state?

        I as an atheist do not embrace darwin’s theory of evolution as my final authority. I embrace being a decent person and expect others to do the same. We’re just animals that believe we’re higher functioning than those we don’t fully understand. We run on instincts and build our own little tribes.

        Please don’t think that anyone whom identifies as an atheist is a progressive either. I happen to be neither conservative nor progressive. I fall into a much more accepting category.

        I have no issues with your belief structure. If it works for you and makes you a better person, get your freak on. Keep on going with it. What works for you does not work for every other person out there. Keep that in mind.

      • sproutable

        Holy crap? Really? Let’s just deny science and go on belief a bit more. That sounds absolutely rational. Then you start busting out the founding fathers? Didn’t you get the memo about church and state?

        I as an atheist do not embrace darwin’s theory of evolution as my final authority. I embrace being a decent person and expect others to do the same. We’re just animals that believe we’re higher functioning than those we don’t fully understand. We run on instincts and build our own little tribes.

        Please don’t think that anyone whom identifies as an atheist is a progressive either. I happen to be neither conservative nor progressive. I fall into a much more accepting category.

        I have no issues with your belief structure. If it works for you and makes you a better person, get your freak on. Keep on going with it. What works for you does not work for every other person out there. Keep that in mind.

      • sproutable

        Holy crap? Really? Let’s just deny science and go on belief a bit more. That sounds absolutely rational. Then you start busting out the founding fathers? Didn’t you get the memo about church and state?

        I as an atheist do not embrace darwin’s theory of evolution as my final authority. I embrace being a decent person and expect others to do the same. We’re just animals that believe we’re higher functioning than those we don’t fully understand. We run on instincts and build our own little tribes.

        Please don’t think that anyone whom identifies as an atheist is a progressive either. I happen to be neither conservative nor progressive. I fall into a much more accepting category.

        I have no issues with your belief structure. If it works for you and makes you a better person, get your freak on. Keep on going with it. What works for you does not work for every other person out there. Keep that in mind.

    • Don Hawkes

      Ben , you asked ,”What’s wrong with being an atheist ?”
      There have been books written to answer that question but without going into great detail I will answer , ideas have consequences . Primarily the denial of the existence of God is an irrational escape from reality which can only be maintained by self deception . It is a concept alien to that of our nation’s founding fathers and the principles which guided their actions.

      They fought and some died to give their posterity liberty and prosperity because they believed God had endowed His creatures with certain unalienable (untransferable) rights .

      Atheists generally embrace Darwinian evolution and has man not God as their final authority . Their view of origins renders their worldview inconsistent and irrational. It is atheism that undergirds the eugenic programs embraced by Hitler and Darwinism influenced the “Progressive” era which has derailed or hijacked our Constitutional Republic and led us into our current unstable and socialistic situation.

    • Don Hawkes

      Ben , you asked ,”What’s wrong with being an atheist ?”
      There have been books written to answer that question but without going into great detail I will answer , ideas have consequences . Primarily the denial of the existence of God is an irrational escape from reality which can only be maintained by self deception . It is a concept alien to that of our nation’s founding fathers and the principles which guided their actions.

      They fought and some died to give their posterity liberty and prosperity because they believed God had endowed His creatures with certain unalienable (untransferable) rights .

      Atheists generally embrace Darwinian evolution and has man not God as their final authority . Their view of origins renders their worldview inconsistent and irrational. It is atheism that undergirds the eugenic programs embraced by Hitler and Darwinism influenced the “Progressive” era which has derailed or hijacked our Constitutional Republic and led us into our current unstable and socialistic situation.

    • Christine Forlano Tawil

      I think the point of pointing out that he is an atheist is that so many people against the administration happen to be conservative and christian…Adam doesn’t fit into the “norm” of those working to spread the word.

    • Misty Lee

      It is just a detail used in support of the author’s point that conservatives don’t really like Adam. He didn’t mean that being atheist is a bad thing… and apparently that went right over your head.

    • Misty Lee

      It is just a detail used in support of the author’s point that conservatives don’t really like Adam. He didn’t mean that being atheist is a bad thing… and apparently that went right over your head.

  • Old Chicago

    I never knew the National Park Service had a SWAT team complete with helicopters.
    God help us all!

    • Smoak

      Did u know the irs also has a swat team?

      • Éowyn

        and the dept of education, the epa, etc.,

        • sovreigncitizen

          And NASA too.

          • FlipFlop

            the best one: The Library of Congress.

            yes, they have a fully-armed SWAT team

          • vicki

            Someone might want to stop them from burning books when the time of Tyranny comes.

          • Stian Andresen

            Newsflash! Time of tyranny is here already.

          • Stian Andresen

            Newsflash! Time of tyranny is here already.

          • Stian Andresen

            Newsflash! Time of tyranny is here already.

          • vicki

            Someone might want to stop them from burning books when the time of Tyranny comes.

          • vicki

            Someone might want to stop them from burning books when the time of Tyranny comes.

          • FlipFlop

            the best one: The Library of Congress.

            yes, they have a fully-armed SWAT team

      • jholderbaum

        Even Child Protective Services can summon a SWAT team. They did it in Detroit. A SWAT team against a mother and child. There’s going to be a film made about the story.

    • Orah Tipton

      Where did you think all those bullets purchased by the government were going?

      • ah s

        Target practice? =)

        • vicki

          The variable of concern is the definition they plan to use for “target”

    • alicelillie

      I believe all the agencies have access to swat. And, on the subject of swat, I think the police are being militarized because that is a way to get around posse comitatus.

      • Uncle Arty

        they don’t need to get around it, Bush eliminated Posse Comitatus right after 9/11

        • USMCPatriot

          Yes he did in 2006, and congress repealed that change in its entirety with the NDA for 2008, so it is in place again except that Obama changed the wording again with the 2011 NDAA to add a category that could be used against all of us if there was an “insurrection” in the govts view.

      • Uncle Arty

        they don’t need to get around it, Bush eliminated Posse Comitatus right after 9/11

    • alicelillie

      I believe all the agencies have access to swat. And, on the subject of swat, I think the police are being militarized because that is a way to get around posse comitatus.

    • alicelillie

      I believe all the agencies have access to swat. And, on the subject of swat, I think the police are being militarized because that is a way to get around posse comitatus.

    • Admiral America

      They’ve even armed the Social Security Administration. They probably have a SWAT team as well to get those unruly geriatric citizens.

    • Admiral America

      They’ve even armed the Social Security Administration. They probably have a SWAT team as well to get those unruly geriatric citizens.

  • Old Chicago

    I never knew the National Park Service had a SWAT team complete with helicopters.
    God help us all!

  • Bill

    Adam Kokesh worked for the Obama campaign and if you ask me he was sent out to stir the pot and see who floated to the surface. There are multiple accounts of him campaigning for Obama all over the internet.

    • Chris Grooms

      You’re quite the idiot.

      • troubled1

        Why exactly is he an idiot Chris? Because he has the brains to question a situation? Or is it because you just blindly believe any story you are fed and anybody who doesnt blindly follow is an idiot? Who is the real idiot here?

      • troubled1

        Why exactly is he an idiot Chris? Because he has the brains to question a situation? Or is it because you just blindly believe any story you are fed and anybody who doesnt blindly follow is an idiot? Who is the real idiot here?

        • Peter

          Both of you. Both of you are the idiots.

        • Peter

          Both of you. Both of you are the idiots.

        • Peter

          Both of you. Both of you are the idiots.

      • troubled1

        Why exactly is he an idiot Chris? Because he has the brains to question a situation? Or is it because you just blindly believe any story you are fed and anybody who doesnt blindly follow is an idiot? Who is the real idiot here?

    • joshhamjosh

      I don’t know if I believe the whole story, but I do find it interesting that when that story broke, he went to jail and is just “chilling out.” Also, how many other inmates would they give the opportunity to do a podcast from jail? I hope he is legit, but some things about his story don’t add up.

  • Jim Morrison

    the marshal’s name was Uncle Sam, he said he’d right this wrong:
    http://youtu.be/cDSQVJ5VtJ0

  • Robbin Banks

    Kokesh is a fraud like the rest of them – He was filmed in front of the
    Whitehouse, fooling his followers by pretending to smoke weed, when in
    fact it was a fake joint. This video is on youtube. His friend
    accidently passed him a real joint and he was then arrested. He had also
    set up a donation page before his arrest. Upon his supposed release he
    had decided not to lead a march after taking a list of people willing to
    participate. What did he do with the list? So as we know he is a provocataur and antagonist, the gun was probably a hoax and they would be blanks. He is probably on holiday.

  • Andrew Moursund

    I have a feeling he’s going to go the way of MLK, JFK, Malcolm X, etc…

  • troubled1

    Does anybody else wonder why the National Park service even has a swat team?

    • terrie

      Just yesterday I was reading about a national park for women’s suffrage. I watched a video the Park service had produced, all muslim women talking of their religion’s treatment of women in a good way.?! I thought, why is the park service involved in this?! CRAZY!!

    • Marc M.

      If I had to make a guess, it’s because people like to cook meth in National Parks, and do nefarious things of that nature that required specially trained officers to deal with safely.

      • BigUgly666

        Then the park service can borrow them from another agency LIKE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO.

        • Marc M.

          Supposed to? According to what? The park service already has police, its not a stretch to train them further for specific needs as simply an additional duty.

          • RED1958

            So what you’re thinking is that All National Park Officials could Qualify as SWAT Team Members? Some of them couldn’t qualify as Dog Catchers, much Less a SWAT TEAM MEMBER!!

          • Uncle Arty

            In a free constitutional society it’s much more than a stretch it’s completely, illegal, immoral and unconstitutional.

          • Uncle Arty

            In a free constitutional society it’s much more than a stretch it’s completely, illegal, immoral and unconstitutional.

          • Misty Lee

            Unless the country is ALREADY in serious debt and can’t afford all this bogus training and staffing. Not every government organization needs a S.W.A.T. team of their very own. They are protecting themselves from us, not criminals, if we ever revolt, everyone even remotely affiliated with Big Bro, will be armed to the teeth and SWAT trained… NOT A GOOD THING!

          • Misty Lee

            Unless the country is ALREADY in serious debt and can’t afford all this bogus training and staffing. Not every government organization needs a S.W.A.T. team of their very own. They are protecting themselves from us, not criminals, if we ever revolt, everyone even remotely affiliated with Big Bro, will be armed to the teeth and SWAT trained… NOT A GOOD THING!

          • BigUgly666

            How about, because the Sheriff is the ONLY CONSTITUTIONALLY AUTHORIZED LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IN THIS NATION.

            So, YES, it IS a “stretch” to train them to be a ‘quasi-military private army’. Who’s function is to force obedience to some ‘departmental rules’, that are NOT LAW and have no “force of law” other than ‘force of arms’. The ONLY body that has Constitutional authority to “make law” is Congress … and even Congress MUST meet the terms of the Constitution, as written, in order for their ‘legislation’ to actually BE LAW.

          • BigUgly666

            How about, because the Sheriff is the ONLY CONSTITUTIONALLY AUTHORIZED LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IN THIS NATION.

            So, YES, it IS a “stretch” to train them to be a ‘quasi-military private army’. Who’s function is to force obedience to some ‘departmental rules’, that are NOT LAW and have no “force of law” other than ‘force of arms’. The ONLY body that has Constitutional authority to “make law” is Congress … and even Congress MUST meet the terms of the Constitution, as written, in order for their ‘legislation’ to actually BE LAW.

      • skiff

        We are talking about DC parks police. Nobody is going to be cooking meth at the Jefferson memorial. They will attempt to shatter your spine if they catch you dancing there, though.

      • skiff

        We are talking about DC parks police. Nobody is going to be cooking meth at the Jefferson memorial. They will attempt to shatter your spine if they catch you dancing there, though.

      • Patriot4freedom

        Actually the NPS Rangers encounter extremely violent individuals and situations in the course of their duties. I have a family member who is a Ranger and NPS SWAT leader and his team was responsible for putting down a meth operation run by a national motorcycle gang that was producing $1,000,000 worth of meth PER DAY in one of our National Parks.

        • Guest

          at the Washigton Monument? I think not…,

        • Guest

          at the Washigton Monument? I think not…,

      • Patriot4freedom

        Actually the NPS Rangers encounter extremely violent individuals and situations in the course of their duties. I have a family member who is a Ranger and NPS SWAT leader and his team was responsible for putting down a meth operation run by a national motorcycle gang that was producing $1,000,000 worth of meth PER DAY in one of our National Parks.

    • Timmogul7

      It’s simple troubled1, no stone unturned, nowhere to run.

    • ah s

      Kids spotted selling lemonade. Worse yet, tales of raspberries!

    • ah s

      Kids spotted selling lemonade. Worse yet, tales of raspberries!

  • troubled1

    Does anybody else wonder why the National Park service even has a swat team?

  • BigUgly666

    …. and what, pray tell, is the National Park Service doing with a SWAT team?

    • Don Hawkes

      Good question . Remember how they failed to properly investigate the murder of Vince Foster and turned over evidence to the White House ? Maybe they’re not law enforcement at all but just another goon squad doing the bidding of their master .

    • Don Hawkes

      Good question . Remember how they failed to properly investigate the murder of Vince Foster and turned over evidence to the White House ? Maybe they’re not law enforcement at all but just another goon squad doing the bidding of their master .

  • Billy

    All the “patriots” in this country are scared little bitches that will ONLY speak and won’t DO anything. Adam Kokesh might not have the most well thought out tactics, but HE IS RIGHT and he has more balls than any living breathing American today.

  • EB

    Postcards are fine. No return address, and the mail screeners can easily read and share the message.

  • EB

    Postcards are fine. No return address, and the mail screeners can easily read and share the message.

  • Brian Jeffs

    “Most gun laws are unconstitutional and should be revoked.”
    Read more at http://clashdaily.com/2013/09/whatever-happened-adam-kokesh/#OJpsB2A6QsriubIJ.99

    Skip which one’s are constitutional?

    • vicki

      Agreed. I have read the 2nd Amendment more then once and still can not find a single law infringing on the RIGHT of the people (notice no restrictions) to keep (own and/r possess) and bear (carry. open, concealed, whatever) arms (guns, knives, swords…) to be Constitutional.

      The 2nd is an explicit restriction on government. There is no restriction on people.

    • vicki

      Agreed. I have read the 2nd Amendment more then once and still can not find a single law infringing on the RIGHT of the people (notice no restrictions) to keep (own and/r possess) and bear (carry. open, concealed, whatever) arms (guns, knives, swords…) to be Constitutional.

      The 2nd is an explicit restriction on government. There is no restriction on people.

  • Brian Jeffs

    “Most gun laws are unconstitutional and should be revoked.”
    Read more at http://clashdaily.com/2013/09/whatever-happened-adam-kokesh/#OJpsB2A6QsriubIJ.99

    Skip which one’s are constitutional?

  • Pablo Descartes

    “He stood up to them and they cut him from the herd before he could spread dissent,” “Freedom loving Americans could be driven to civil obedience.”
    The battle for Liberty is upon US.

  • Pablo Descartes

    “He stood up to them and they cut him from the herd before he could spread dissent,” “Freedom loving Americans could be driven to civil obedience.”
    The battle for Liberty is upon US.

  • Don Hawkes

    Skip, you asked, ” So the question you have to ask and answer is this: “Is Adam Kokesh a patriot or a criminal?”
    And why do so many conservatives dislike Adam?”

    My answer is, neither and that is precisely why I dislike him. This was not always my opinion . I remember the speech he gave in DC when he was running for Congress in NM . The speech was great. He referenced the Constitution and Unanimous Declaration and quoted the founding fathers . What an inspirational and motivational message it was . The problem is that Adam doesn’t beleive what he said . His rhetoric since then reveals his affinity to anarchy and the fact that he more resembles a Jacobin French Libertine than an American Patriot dedicated to the Declaration principles and the Constitution . He is making friends and influencing people and I find it disturbing that so many are ignorant enough to respond to his guidance .

    • 11Hotel

      Kokesh is just another Thomas Paine/Ron Pauler. They talk about the Constitution in public, but around their acolytes they are voluntaryist anarchists.

      • vicki

        How is voluntaryist NOT a constitutional principle?

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntaryism

        Now adding the word “anarchist” implies an intent to demonize voluntaryism which gives us a clue into your motives

        http://www.economicsjunkie.com/anarchism-voluntaryism-faqs/

        • Robert C Dare

          anarchy is not a bad thing, , alot of people dont really know the concept behind its meaning and the people that follow it. the fact that people WANT to be governed counteracts the claim of FREEDOM. an absence of leaders is the principle belief as well as the NAP, while at the same time allowing freedom of association and cooperative business models.

        • Robert C Dare

          anarchy is not a bad thing, , alot of people dont really know the concept behind its meaning and the people that follow it. the fact that people WANT to be governed counteracts the claim of FREEDOM. an absence of leaders is the principle belief as well as the NAP, while at the same time allowing freedom of association and cooperative business models.

    • 11Hotel

      Kokesh is just another Thomas Paine/Ron Pauler. They talk about the Constitution in public, but around their acolytes they are voluntaryist anarchists.

  • gordonsoderberg

    I Know Adam. He is a egotistical moron who willingly broke the law. He belongs in jail. The only value he has is his being a bad example.

  • gordonsoderberg

    I Know Adam. He is a egotistical moron who willingly broke the law. He belongs in jail. The only value he has is his being a bad example.

    • John Bowman

      If the law is Unconstitutional, there is nothing to break.

  • gordonsoderberg

    I Know Adam. He is a egotistical moron who willingly broke the law. He belongs in jail. The only value he has is his being a bad example.

  • aliceinwonder

    Pothead? Um….nothing wrong with marijuana. It’s a plant the pharmaceutical companies HATE because they can’t patent it.
    Kokesh is a hero. He is a Libertarian hero. May the God he doesn’t believe in bless him!

  • aliceinwonder

    Pothead? Um….nothing wrong with marijuana. It’s a plant the pharmaceutical companies HATE because they can’t patent it.
    Kokesh is a hero. He is a Libertarian hero. May the God he doesn’t believe in bless him!

  • Mark J Biberg

    another right wing whack job pretending to be a patriot; it is time to start seeing these Tea Party folks for what they are: selfishly dangerous to the well-being of our democracy and of the collective good of the country.

  • Mark J Biberg

    another right wing whack job pretending to be a patriot; it is time to start seeing these Tea Party folks for what they are: selfishly dangerous to the well-being of our democracy and of the collective good of the country.

  • Mark J Biberg

    another right wing whack job pretending to be a patriot; it is time to start seeing these Tea Party folks for what they are: selfishly dangerous to the well-being of our democracy and of the collective good of the country.

    • Robert C Dare

      collective good…thought Karl Marx died, guess not. first of all adam isnt right wing, secondly the USA isnt based on a democracy , its based upon the republic, similiar to Rome. thomas jefferson hated democracy.

  • celador2

    Thanks for the address. He is not gone and forgotten. How long is his sentence and for what crimes(s) is he serving time?

    • Brian Jeffs

      He hasn’t been tried or convicted, and the judge won’t grant bond because he is so “dangerous.”

      • vicki

        He is dangerous. VERY dangerous……To tyrants.

        • Jim Aroyo

          Yes, about the same as a roach would be.

      • vicki

        He is dangerous. VERY dangerous……To tyrants.

    • Brian Jeffs

      He hasn’t been tried or convicted, and the judge won’t grant bond because he is so “dangerous.”

  • E.J. Burger

    pot head yes librarian no. more of an anarcocapitalist

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism

  • E.J. Burger

    pot head yes librarian no. more of an anarcocapitalist

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism

    • Orah Tipton

      He’s no librarian, that’s true. He does like books, apparently! Anarcho-capitalist, what’s not to love?

  • The proper Gato

    2ND this.

  • Linda Gonzales

    “Let’s cut through all the crap and admit that Adam Kokesh is guilty of violating a federal law that shouldn’t exist.”

    Well stated! Let’s hope Jury Nullification can save the day :-)

    • vicki

      Jury Nullification. One of the boxes given to us to protect liberty.
      http://www.fija.org

    • vicki

      Jury Nullification. One of the boxes given to us to protect liberty.
      http://www.fija.org

    • vicki

      Jury Nullification. One of the boxes given to us to protect liberty.
      http://www.fija.org

    • Jim Aroyo

      Maybe jury nullification will also allow a few deranged mass murderers loose, too.

  • Linda Gonzales

    “Let’s cut through all the crap and admit that Adam Kokesh is guilty of violating a federal law that shouldn’t exist.”

    Well stated! Let’s hope Jury Nullification can save the day :-)

  • alicelillie

    I am still praying for Adam on a daily basis. And you are right. Adam today, you or me tomorrow. So it is a good idea to be prepared in whatever manner you can.

  • alicelillie

    I am still praying for Adam on a daily basis. And you are right. Adam today, you or me tomorrow. So it is a good idea to be prepared in whatever manner you can.

  • sovreigncitizen

    Lets all hope and pray the current judge, illegally denying his freedom meets a most unfortunate accident, and Adam gets assigned a judge who will follow the law and not political pressure.

  • sovreigncitizen

    Lets all hope and pray the current judge, illegally denying his freedom meets a most unfortunate accident, and Adam gets assigned a judge who will follow the law and not political pressure.

  • Rational Voice

    FREE KOKESH!! FREE MANNING! FREE EMERY!! FREE ALL OF THE NON-VIOLENT POLITICAL PRISONERS!

  • Rational Voice

    FREE KOKESH!! FREE MANNING! FREE EMERY!! FREE ALL OF THE NON-VIOLENT POLITICAL PRISONERS!

  • SeRiOuSLy!!??

    i want to keep my 2nd amendment rights and appreciate all who fight for it in a smart, well informed, conscientious manner and well represents law abiding gun owners. not one that gives those opposed to it fuel to add to the fire. this is not somebody i want speaking for gun rights because he will just show everything wrong and convince more restrictions be made.

    • vicki

      Since adam did not shoot anyone. Did not threaten anyone other then the tyrants in government, did not mug anyone, what again did he do that would give fuel to the anti-gun crowd?

    • vicki

      Since adam did not shoot anyone. Did not threaten anyone other then the tyrants in government, did not mug anyone, what again did he do that would give fuel to the anti-gun crowd?

  • SeRiOuSLy!!??

    i want to keep my 2nd amendment rights and appreciate all who fight for it in a smart, well informed, conscientious manner and well represents law abiding gun owners. not one that gives those opposed to it fuel to add to the fire. this is not somebody i want speaking for gun rights because he will just show everything wrong and convince more restrictions be made.

  • SeRiOuSLy!!??

    i want to keep my 2nd amendment rights and appreciate all who fight for it in a smart, well informed, conscientious manner and well represents law abiding gun owners. not one that gives those opposed to it fuel to add to the fire. this is not somebody i want speaking for gun rights because he will just show everything wrong and convince more restrictions be made.

  • dthemajor

    If Adam is revealing the rigged prison system to inmates who have never had the education to understand on his intellectual level I think the authorities are soon going to realize the huge mistake they have made…Go Adam!

  • Guest

    Whoever wrote this article is a Douche Bag!

  • Tj Vance

    Hes and idiot!! What he did was stupid and makes people fighting for the 2nd A look bad!

    • vicki

      Civil disobedience makes us look bad how?

    • Xi’an Black

      First thing first. I don’t trust Kokesh. That being said. He’s the ONLY one doing what WE ALL should be doing. The ‘Open Carry’ march would have been the CORRECT way to protest the ILLEGAL laws imposed in DC. However, his march fizzed because MOST people prefer to HIDE behind the 2nd amendment instead of understanding it and using the right as it was intended.
      As for calling him and ‘idiot’, I suggest you look in the mirror. Definition of idiot –
      1. an utterly stupid or foolish person.
      2. A person of profound mental retardation having a mental age below three
      years and generally being unable to learn connected speech or guard
      against common dangers.
      What Kokesh is doing is what ALL Americans should be doing. Standing up for their rights and protesting against the illegal laws passed against us.

    • Xi’an Black

      First thing first. I don’t trust Kokesh. That being said. He’s the ONLY one doing what WE ALL should be doing. The ‘Open Carry’ march would have been the CORRECT way to protest the ILLEGAL laws imposed in DC. However, his march fizzed because MOST people prefer to HIDE behind the 2nd amendment instead of understanding it and using the right as it was intended.
      As for calling him and ‘idiot’, I suggest you look in the mirror. Definition of idiot –
      1. an utterly stupid or foolish person.
      2. A person of profound mental retardation having a mental age below three
      years and generally being unable to learn connected speech or guard
      against common dangers.
      What Kokesh is doing is what ALL Americans should be doing. Standing up for their rights and protesting against the illegal laws passed against us.

  • Tj Vance

    Hes and idiot!! What he did was stupid and makes people fighting for the 2nd A look bad!

  • Tj Vance

    Hes and idiot!! What he did was stupid and makes people fighting for the 2nd A look bad!

  • roscoet

    Not if but when

  • roscoet

    Not if but when

  • RED1958

    Kokesh is a Patriot!! But he is a Loose Lipped Fool!!! He has no concept of OPSEC, which when playing his kind of Game is a Dangerous thing!! Being Foolish as he is will get you ONE of TWO things……….Imprisoned and Forgotten About OR Dead and Disappeared!!!
    If you play Stupid Games, You Win Stupid Prizes!!!

  • RED1958

    Kokesh is a Patriot!! But he is a Loose Lipped Fool!!! He has no concept of OPSEC, which when playing his kind of Game is a Dangerous thing!! Being Foolish as he is will get you ONE of TWO things……….Imprisoned and Forgotten About OR Dead and Disappeared!!!
    If you play Stupid Games, You Win Stupid Prizes!!!

  • RED1958

    Kokesh is a Patriot!! But he is a Loose Lipped Fool!!! He has no concept of OPSEC, which when playing his kind of Game is a Dangerous thing!! Being Foolish as he is will get you ONE of TWO things……….Imprisoned and Forgotten About OR Dead and Disappeared!!!
    If you play Stupid Games, You Win Stupid Prizes!!!

  • foryourprotection

    Night of the long knives… part 2

  • foryourprotection

    Night of the long knives… part 2

  • foryourprotection

    Night of the long knives… part 2

  • David

    Anyone who breaks down my door can “Say Hello to my Little Friend”.

  • tonya

    Kidnapped by the feds.

  • tonya

    Kidnapped by the feds.

  • tonya

    Patriot

  • fliteking

    I admire many Libertarians . . . . but Kokesh is a turd.

  • fliteking

    I admire many Libertarians . . . . but Kokesh is a turd.

  • down south

    I am thinking if we evolved from apes would we not have a strong craving for bananas.

  • down south

    I am thinking if we evolved from apes would we not have a strong craving for bananas.

  • Robert C Dare

    Ok let me chime in and im sure I will make so many people mad, but thats ok. There is nothing wrong with being an atheist. Im not an athiest( although in my eyes atheism is a religion as it has a foundation, core belief system and a label), im an Epistemologist. Secondly i believe most laws regarding the 2A are unconstitutional under 18 USC 241 and 242(different story) amongst this is self defense as a fundamental human right. Actually governance over a people i think isnt right in general. We elected slave owners with term limits pretty much (except congress). While i believe in Adam Kokesh and what he did, I have to aknowledge how stupid it is. Let me clarify that. I support Civil Disobediance for all issue and laws, but i dont support anouncing it to the world and saying “look at me make an example of me”. You can have C.D. yet be incognito, quiet and educate others in different ways. Now acting upon that in a public way is just bad for business as their is no guarantee you will escape prison. A patriot cannot continue to be a patriot and effectivly educate people in prison as its in a controlled emviroment. I think Adam is right in his message but how he did it wasnt really smart. you cant effect change in a cell very well. Might be different if he was in his home and defended against that SWAT team by counteracting force with force (although death is imminent) and then in prison. Now that is a huge event that will cause quite a stir. if your going to get in prison might as well make it a big event in doing so. because like i said before, no guarantee of leaving prison

    • Don Hawkes

      The majority of prisons only use cells for punishment or protection. Adam is apparently in population so has the opportunity to share his beliefs . I think his purpose in getting himself arrested was self promotion . He wants to lead a revolution and unfortunately there are many who will follow him. I suspect he is an agent provacateur . His rhetoric reminds me of the Weather Underground guys I met while serving in the USMC . Considering that the communist always move a society into a state of anarchy before they gain control and that our national government is controlled by those “Progressives” whose ideology is compatible with communism , I think it possible Adam may be working for the man.

      • Steve

        Unfortunately this was my conclusion also.

        “The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.”

    • Don Hawkes

      The majority of prisons only use cells for punishment or protection. Adam is apparently in population so has the opportunity to share his beliefs . I think his purpose in getting himself arrested was self promotion . He wants to lead a revolution and unfortunately there are many who will follow him. I suspect he is an agent provacateur . His rhetoric reminds me of the Weather Underground guys I met while serving in the USMC . Considering that the communist always move a society into a state of anarchy before they gain control and that our national government is controlled by those “Progressives” whose ideology is compatible with communism , I think it possible Adam may be working for the man.

  • David Koresh

    What was he doing when W. was committing all of his tyranny? The only good thing about him is that he is an atheist. The rest is suspect. People, beware of who you follow.

    • Jensational

      he was in Iraq fighting an unconstitutional war. I think.

    • Jensational

      he was in Iraq fighting an unconstitutional war. I think.

  • MHSnider

    ALL gun control laws are Unconstitutional.

  • israeltucker

    #911truth will get you out of jail.

  • Tadeusz Kościuszko

    Adam exposed one thing the appearance of the second amendment is not the same as the second amendment. The Future will show how the fear based mind control for the masses was used and( the mind controlled in your face NAVY was a skit) that ADAM is not dangerous to freedom but, its conduit. Adam is risking his life to save your children’s future to restore balance to D.ivide and C.onquer.

  • Tadeusz Kościuszko

    Adam exposed one thing the appearance of the second amendment is not the same as the second amendment. The Future will show how the fear based mind control for the masses was used and( the mind controlled in your face NAVY was a skit) that ADAM is not dangerous to freedom but, its conduit. Adam is risking his life to save your children’s future to restore balance to D.ivide and C.onquer.

  • nichole

    so what about the swat members again? I think we were cut off by individuals bringin up religion or something…

  • nichole

    so what about the swat members again? I think we were cut off by individuals bringin up religion or something…

  • Anonymous

    I just wrote a blog about Kokesh on 19 September. He is not going to change anything. He is sitting in a federal prison awaiting charges for rebellion and insurrection, which prevents him from ever running for an office within the jurisdiction of the United States if and when he is convicted…ever. Those who “aide and support” Kokesh also run the risk of violating 18 USC 2383. Be vigilant and smart!

  • Anonymous

    I just wrote a blog about Kokesh on 19 September. He is not going to change anything. He is sitting in a federal prison awaiting charges for rebellion and insurrection, which prevents him from ever running for an office within the jurisdiction of the United States if and when he is convicted…ever. Those who “aide and support” Kokesh also run the risk of violating 18 USC 2383. Be vigilant and smart!

  • willc4

    This is a legal issue not a lawful issue. You must learn the definition of “Firearm” if you want to defend yourself from the criminals in government. Go to the US Code and get educated.

  • Jesse Farmer

    Some of you people are a little delusional. If some dude was walking around your town with a shot gun, you’d all be like, oh, it’s cool. It’s his 2nd Amendment right.

    Get real.

    And what happened to states rights? How hypocritical are these Libertarians? It’s states rights if some bosses don’t like unions, but if Washington DC wants to pass a law to prevent loon balls from running around town with guns, then it’s time for outside intervention.

    • dinkster

      States don’t have rights, only the people have rights.

  • jholderbaum

    Adam is indeed a Patriot. They better let him out of that prison before he converts the entire G-pop to Libertarianism. :o)

  • jholderbaum

    Adam is indeed a Patriot. They better let him out of that prison before he converts the entire G-pop to Libertarianism. :o)

  • Andrew

    An armed march doesn’t sound peaceful to me.

    Guns are weapons, their purpose is violence. A responsible gun owner will probably never use them against another human. A very few will be forced to to use them to protect themselves or others.

    I’m fine with responsible gun ownership and support it. Bringing guns to protests is not responsible, and is not peaceful.

  • flyfisher405

    did you know u.n. troops are already here.

  • flyfisher405

    did you know u.n. troops are already here.

  • Guest

    this has got to be the most idiotic article I have ever read….it’s laughable…..

    • http://mikevo.wordpress.com/ Mike Van Orden

      and why? At least back up the things you say

  • Guest

    this has got to be the most idiotic article I have ever read….it’s laughable…..

  • Christopher Rico

    Skip, you might want to reconsider linking to the AVTM investment page. There are a lot of signs that something fishy is going on there.

    http://shieldmutual.com/2013/09/adam-kokesh-longer-customer/

  • Ronald Peterson

    So Mr. Kokesh has you fooled too. This guy is a liberal govt. plant. bought and paid for by the U.S .Govt. Every one of his stunts is either to try to “spark” the “revolution” that will allow the fed govt. to declare martial law , or just plain out grandstanding. He is just like Obama in that he will tell you what ever he thinks you want to here. and he is supported by Code Pink ! Next time you want to glorify someone , at least make sure they are worthy.

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