America the Multi-Cultural? Coca-Cola’s Saddening Super Bowl Serenade

I always look forward to Super Bowl Sunday, regardless of which teams are squaring-off. It reliably provides something to look forward to: time spent with people I care about, eating snacks, subs and chilli; a bright, highly-touted event to break-up the resolute New England gloom during this bleakest part of the year.

And 2014’s Super Bowl XLVIII proved no exception.

The Seahawks have seriously impressed me all season — but I flatly didn’t expect the clinically ruthless hammering they visited upon the hapless Broncos during this outing. I admit to a post-game shiver of relief it wasn’t the Patriots on the receiving end of Seattle’s roughing-up. Perhaps Peyton Manning and the Boys did Brady’s Bunch a favor shutting them out of the evening’s Big Show? I couldn’t help but wonder.

While I was somewhat neutral on the outcome, I felt genuinely sorry for Bronco quarterback Manning at contest’s end. The frustration must be nearly unbearable for him. One of the greatest QBs ever, but only one Superbowl win notched on his belt — sort of a Dan Marino redux scenario.

I have to imagine advertisers were pulling their hair out as millions started clicking off the TV or hopping over to another channel halfway through the blowout’s third quarter.

Candidly, before the fourth quarter lapsed even I bailed and sped home to catch Downton Abbey with my lovely wife. (I’m not ashamed to disclose that decision – these are the kinds of things devoted husbands do – particularly easy once it becomes clear the Big Game’s conclusion is set in stone.) Turns out I got the time wrong, so missed Downton anyway; but the point is I’d had enough, so it wasn’t difficult for me, presumably like many other viewers, to prematurely tune out this commercial-heavy broadcast.

And about those advertisers pulling out their hair? One of them has me tempted to do likewise. Yes, I was initially only mildly unsettled by the Coca-Cola promotion featuring “America the Beautiful” crooned in a farrago of foreign  languages. After the Coke feature screened, one of the ladies watching in the room with me — a soft-spoken, rather un-political personality — quietly murmured, “Hmm. I didn’t like that.” Otherwise, not a lot of immediate, vocal reaction from the football enthusiasts surrounding me, but I did passingly pick-up on her remark.

The more I’ve pondered the beverage behemoth’s blurb, however, the more objectionable it is becoming to me. Radio talker Laura Ingraham put it well the morning after: ” ‘America the Beautiful’ is meant to be sung in English.”

Her observation should be obvious, shouldn’t have to be articulated, right? I mean, that’s rather the entire point, isn’t it? 

Yet, Coke’s Super Bowl spot reminds us that contemporary pop culture disgracefully dictates America can’t be unvarnishedly celebrated as America, any longer: English-speaking, Judeo-Christian- based, Constitutional-Republic-endorsing America, period.

No, that’s bad form, we’re scolded. Grubby parochialism. Jingoism.

How much more effectively would Coca-Cola’s attempted blast of lyrical patriotism have landed had it shown a panoply of newly christened U.S. citizens, decked out in their native clothing,  rendering that  glorious hymn in their unique, heavily-accented English? It would have premiered as that singularly American ideal of the “melting-pot” incarnated in a colorful, hummable package. Instead, the feature quietly showcases a corrosive societal dynamic which, ultimately, might pan-out as the nation’s undoing.

Beaming, freshly sworn-in Americans reverently belting out Katherine Lee Bates’ 1895 composition? That would have been an exhilarating home-run – or, more appropriately, touch-down – for Coke. In its place, we were subject to the musical equivalent of the Bronco’s game-time performance.

Thud.

It was an incongruously saddening moment in the midst of the evening’s otherwise enjoyable festivities. 

Though, I’ll concede, the promo for 24‘s upcoming season managed to perk me up a bit.

Image: Courtesy of: Screen Shot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8iM73E6JP8

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  • fliteking

    AmeriKa is hardly multi-cultural, there is no room in the rainbow for Asian;s, Native American’s or white males.

    But hey, let’s not step outside our preconceived notions as a nation, most white males today own slaves, right? And it’s OK to take away one’s chances of advancement based his skin color even when that person is the most qualified, right? Ahhhhh, we are one big rainbow . . . minus certain colors.

  • StingRay

    Steve, you nailed it. You said what every typical, white, European heritage person in this country thought (which is still the majority). The dissenters: the liberal news media, criminal alien invaders, and Ted Kennedy immigrees loved the damned thing (as, I’m sure, Obama).

  • jubilee

    i think its sickening to show G.A.Y. parents, and even some homosexuals believe ALL KIDS NEED a MALE AND FEMALE PARENT…
    and equate it to biracial black/white MARRIED parents. they COMPLETELY HIJACKED the civil rights movement..especially when they aren’t needed anymore

  • IRAMARINE

    Now the Coke Diversity AD is that DADS make better mothers for daughters!

  • sudsy

    I’m happy to say I didn’t watch it but what the heck were they thinking?

  • Tree Dweller

    Trolled? Ramzpaul posted a video on YouTube saying we are being trolled to trick someone into reprehensible behavior. He has a point.

  • SparkleBaby

    “How much more effectively would Coca-Cola’s attempted blast of lyrical patriotism have landed had it shown a panoply of newly christened U.S. citizens, decked out in their native clothing, rendering that glorious hymn in their unique, heavily-accented English? It would have premiered as that singularly American ideal of the “melting-pot” incarnated in a colorful, hummable package. Instead, the feature quietly showcases a corrosive societal dynamic which, ultimately, might pan-out as the nation’s undoing.”

    Wow. Yeah. Right on!

    I am honestly frightened that the culture I live in is changing before my very eyes. In some parts of the country (like Texas) I start to feel like a foreigner because I don’t speak Spanish. Many jobs nowadays in public service require someone to be bilingual. Why? Why must we adjust to accommodate them when they were the ones who chose to come here?

    I don’t hate these people and I appreciate their desire for a better life, for the American dream. But I would never move to a foreign country and expect them to accommodate me while I refuse to learn their language. That’s extremely selfish, at best.

    • mountaine

      You are so right…..it’s up to us to set this straight ! We have to speak up and NOT put up with this !!! We have been so busy working, trying to make ends meet and letting it up to our ( now, no good ! )politicians ! In fact the politicians that are in d.c. belong in prison !!! They have broken every law possible, most of all T R E A S O N !!!! It is “WE THE PEOPLE ” who have to correct this injustice !!!

    • bluejacket472

      The immigrants are given instructions in their own language, by our government, on how to “game” the system. Seems our government is anxious for more Democrat voters.

  • jdbixii

    “a corrosive societal dynamic which, ultimately, might pan-out as the nation’s undoing.” Americans need to understand that there is nothing more causal of insecurity than the failure to communicate. Liberty is interpreted as the right to do as one pleases in the context of one’s own cultural milieu. America is increasingly lacking in commonalities, i.e., factors which actually unite us as a people who are actually representable by the people we elect to our governing bodies. Our differences make the formulation of coherent policies nearly impossible and our differences are stark proof to the rest of the world that common things such as language, religion, ethics, morality and culture transcend the more trivial differences of race, ethnicity and country of origin, but that the latter are significant issues if the former are not unifying factors giving a sense of security in community.

  • AmericanIcon

    Yes, the United States is a nation – not a bunch of balkanized ethnic communities, but a nation – composed of legal immigrants from all over the world, united by a common belief in ‘the American dream’ and a common language: ENGLISH. The ‘message’ would have been more effective if the song was sung by all, in their ‘native costumes’, in English.

    • mudguy1

      Yes it should have been sung in ENGLISH by all of the ethic gropes.This just encourages immigrants not to learn english. Learning english is one of the first steps on becoming an AMERICAN.
      My grandparents immigrated here from Norway and Sweden in the late 1800s and started a family. They spoke their native language until my father and the other siblings started to understand and speak the language. When that happened the refused to speak their native language and spook only English. Because they wanted their children to become AMERICANS.
      This add dose not encourage people to become AMERICANS. That concept is being destroyed by this add.
      Wonder how other countries would have a group of people sing their national songs in different languages?

      • SparkleBaby

        The Coke ad is really disrespectful to people like your grandparents, who worked hard to learn a new language and assimilate into the culture they chose to live in. I have mad respect for immigrants who come here and ASSIMILATE and learn to speak English.

        But those who refuse to are destroying my culture so that *I* am the one who feels like a foreigner. Where can I go to fit in and speak English after my culture has been completely destroyed? Should I move to Canada or the U.K. or Australia? Why should I have to be considering that?

        • mudguy1

          Thanks for your comment. I grew up in Southern California and when I go back to visit it feels like going to a foreign country with all the foreign languages spoken. Our culture and heritage is being destroyed. Back in 2003 Gov. Lamm of Colorado ( a Democrat) gave a speech on how to destroy America.

          “I have a plan to destroy America” — by Richard D. Lamm

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          By Michelle Malkin • February 9, 2008 08:17 AM

          Dick Lamm (left); Mike McGarry of the Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform (center) and me, Jan. 8, 2003, Denver, Colorado.

          I have had the pleasure of speaking and debating alongside former Colorado Gov. Dick Lamm. In Colorado five years ago, we took on an open-borders contingent that was pushing for the illegal alien ID card known as the matricula consular (which I’ve blogged about extensively here.) He’s a true maverick–a Democrat who has long presaged the self-destructive impact of open borders. In 2004, Dick Lamm gave a now-famous speech at one of the Federation for American Immigration Reform’s conferences. The incisive speech, “I have a plan to destroy America,” went viral. I still have at least one or two readers e-mailing it to me every week. I’m reprinting it today.

          It’s more timely than ever as the differences between the two major political parties on these fundamental issues blurs and as open-borders activists on both sides of the aisle work to marginalize critics and redefine all dissent as “hate.” You will not, after reading and digesting Lamm’s speech, feel like “calming down.”

          ***

          I have a plan to destroy America

          by Richard D. Lamm

          I have a secret plan to destroy America. If you believe, as many do, that America is too smug, too white bread, too self-satisfied, too rich, let’s destroy America. It is not that hard to do. History shows that nations are more fragile than their citizens think. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and they all fall, and that “an autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.” Here is my plan:

          1. We must first make America a bilingual-bicultural country. History shows, in my opinion, that no nation can survive the tension, conflict and antagonism of two competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. One scholar, Seymour Martin Lipset, put it this way: “The histories of bilingual and bicultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension and tragedy. Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with its Basques, Bretons and Corsicans.”

          2. I would then invent “multiculturalism” and encourage immigrants to maintain their own culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal: that there are no cultural differences that are important. I would declare it an article of faith that the black and Hispanic dropout rate is only due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out-of-bounds.

          3. We can make the United States a “Hispanic Quebec” without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently, “The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved, not by tolerance, but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically, and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.” I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with a salad bowl metaphor. It is important to insure that we have various cultural sub-groups living in America reinforcing their differences, rather than Americans emphasizing their similarities.

          4. Having done all this, I would make our fastest-growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50 percent dropout rate from school.

          5. I would then get the big foundations and big business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of victimology. I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was all the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population.

          6. I would establish dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would “celebrate diversity.” “Diversity” is a wonderfully seductive word. It stresses differences rather than commonalities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other–that is, when they are not killing each other. A “diverse,” peaceful or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together, and we can take advantage of this myopia.

          Look at the ancient Greeks. Dorf’s “World History” tells us: “The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshiped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic Games in honor of Zeus, and all Greeks venerated the shrine of Apollo at Delphi. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet, all of these bonds together were not strong enough to overcome two factors … (local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions …)” If we can put the emphasis on the “pluribus,” instead of the “unum,” we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo.

          7. Then I would place all these subjects off-limits–make it taboo to talk about. I would find a word similar to “heretic” in the 16th century that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like “racist”, “xenophobe” halt argument and conversation. Having made America a bilingual-bicultural country, having established multiculturalism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of “victimology,” I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra –”because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good.” I would make every individual immigrant sympatric and ignore the cumulative impact.

          8. Lastly, I would censor Victor Davis Hanson’s book “Mexifornia” –this book is dangerous; it exposes my plan to destroy America. So please, please–if you feel that America deserves to be destroyed–please, please–don’t buy this book! This guy is on to my plan.

          • StaunchAmerican

            OMG!

        • StaunchAmerican

          The Prime minister of New Zealand declared a few years ago that the official language of New Zealand was, and would stay, English. Period.

      • Shermer

        English is a foreign language. Only a handful of individuals among the European settlers bothered to learn the local language or customs.

        The inscription on the Statue of Liberty does not say “Bring me your white, Christian, English-speaking masses”.

        • mudguy1

          If one wants to become an American they will learn ENGLISH.

        • StaunchAmerican

          Nor does it say “Bring me your tired, your poor, your hungry yearning to be free so they can speak the same language and practice the same cultural ways of the places from whence they came.”

    • mountaine

      You are 100% correct !!! That would have been the right way to discribe us as AMERICA !!!!! Once you are here LEGAL and a citizen of U.S.A. we are all
      AMERICANS !!!! Stop with the native Americans, African Americans, green Americans, purple Americans, black Americans—– WE ARE AMERICANS !!
      INPLAIN ENGLISH !!!! S T O P WITH “PRESS ONE FOR ENGLISH ” !!!
      YOU DON’T WANT TO LEARN ENGLISH….GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM !!!!

      • AmericanIcon

        As to that: “Press 1 for English. If you cannot or will not learn English, hang up and go back where you came from.”

  • antiliberalcryptonite

    If you come to America to live here, either melt into society as an American, or we will scrape you off like slag and send you back where you came from.

    slag/
    noun
    1. stony waste matter separated from metals during the smelting or refining of ore

  • Colleen Phillips

    What can you expect from Coke? Have we forgotten the fruity feel good “I’d like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony. . .” I didn’t like hearing immigrants singing that beautiful hymn in their native languages either, but was more disgusted by the spot with Jill Biden and Michelle Obama. I didn’t have my glasses on at that moment, and all I could see was a big person with a big ugly head on the right sitting next to petite blond Jill Biden. And then I knew it had to be her. The Obamas can’t resist sticking their mugs into every major sporting event. Haven’t they ever heard of overexposure? Of course, any exposure is too much as far as I’m concerned.

    • lizaz

      Agree!! Why do we have to endure this political crap when we’re trying to enjoy a sporting event??? Can’t they just butt out for a few hours???? And the commercial itself was disgusting…it reminded me my daughter told me she recently called the U.S.Passport Office and was greeted by “press one for English” !!! REALLY????

      • Ben Name

        Why get mad at a company who is trying to just sell their product to as many people as possible?

    • Ben Name

      Colleen, they weren’t singing about about people singing together as much as they were singing about people drinking their soda.

  • Tom K.

    Political Correctness in POISON to a FREE America. P.C. gives you those buzzwords like Multi-Culturalism and Diversity. P.C. Propaganda leaves out the all important concept of America – the MELTING POT. Coca-Cola, stop buying this trash, fire everyone in marketing that thought this was a good idea or America will stop buying Coke products. This is worse than ” The New Coke ” from years ago.

    • RockyMtn1776

      Have you read some of the comments over on the Huff Poo? They think anyone who does not agree with them are not worth being alive.
      There’s one thing I respect about the Libs, they NEVER compromise on their principals no matter how bad they are.

      • Susan

        …. they are pure, hard, core Marxists who want total control of every thought and action of the ignorant worthless masses. And they will kill the “useless eaters” as they do their own genetic offspring, when they have programmed ALL the kids with Common Core (Wundtian programming to wipe out Reason and Virtue).

        Don’t let the public schools have the minds of your children and throw out the TV.

        • Ben Name

          as apposed to hard-core Capitalists who don’t want to control the thoughts and actions of the “ignorant, worthless masses”?

    • Ben Name

      respect homogeny!

  • RUKIDDING

    There is nothing more unifying in a nation than language, I never understood that English isn’t the official language of the United States. When I fist came from Germany to America in 1988 my English was terrible. However, it was my highest priority to learn the language and assimilate to my new home.
    It sickens me to meet people who are here for years and can’t speak English, or when the PC police tells us we need to be more accepting to the cultural and religious needs of new immigrants. They got it wrong, whatever the reason you came here, if you are not willing to become a member of AMERICAN culture and society just go back where you came from, period.

    • Ben Name

      Do you still know german?

      • RUKIDDING

        Yes, I still speak German. I was in my early 20’s when I came to the US. With my husband being a veteran of 24 years we were 2 more times stationed in Germany. However, I must admit that my English is better than my German.

        • Ben Name

          Would you ever consciously give up knowing german?

    • StaunchAmerican

      Rukidding: Well said.

  • Susan

    This add was quite beautiful in many respects but would have been perfect–had they sang in English—-to UNITE all groups that they portrayed. America is the greatest, most free country—-because of the melting pot. Marxists are trying to create a divided culture—-group everyone to create distrust……and hate.

    All totalitarian cultures need to promote hate and fear–no trust. Focusing only on differences (grouping everyone) naturally creates emotions of envy, resentment because of the nature of man and ethnocentric ideology (the herd instinct). People need to be ethnocentric to a degree to survive. It is natural.

    America has always been about an IDEA and melting pot of freedom-loving people—not an ethnic group. This Marxist ideology that the tower of Babel is “Good”—is to collapse culture–as it did Babel. Unity is essential—One Language is the only thing that unites us now, since the Marxists have promoted slavery as “Good” to kids for decades and destroyed their ability to “understand” anything with their Wundtian psychology. Freedom and Individualism is undermined in schools on purpose. Can’t have a “collective” and kill useless eaters with the Christian concept of “Individual Rights from God”.

    Classical Education has to be taught for children to “Know” anything. Otherwise, they believe all the irrational Marxist cr*ppola that they are fed by the NWO goons who control all the institutions now. Take back the minds of your kids. They need true education not brainwashing.

    • Ben Name

      Yes, They could have chosen only children to sing the song in the beauty of their family’s historical language. Oh, they did that.

      • Susan

        It is America they were celebrating with the America’s National Anthem. It is UNITY which allows a nation to flourish.

        All those other “historical” languages are beautiful, I agree, but why would you celebrate countries which killed millions of their own citizens—-where people STILL flee to escape slavery and cartels, etc.?

        • wallawalla

          “Millions of own citizens” White people from the USA slaughtered and enslaved millions of Native Americans, yet you don’t find it OK if they have a commercial where Native American related languages are used?

          • Ben Name

            Actually if you look at the “revised” history books it was the “savages” that attacked first and the “settlers” were just defending their claim to free land that wasn’t owned by Europeans.

          • Susan

            You are saying that the Aztecs and native American indians didn’t have slaves, rape, cannibalism, sodomy, transgender confusion, and kill other groups for conquest of “America” or land/power/slaves? They were perfect????? LOL

            That is revisionism, “that Noble Savage” ideology.
            As if ALL groups don’t create their “own” history and all groups have evil people and irrational, racist, sexist cultures like the indians.

            Shock! Not all ideologies are equal. Some ideas are superior to others. Some cultures promoted more freedom for a more diverse people than other cultures. USA is alone in that—and exceptional. No other country had as large of a middle class of the most mixed races in the history of the world. No country has reached the creativity and innovation and power of this nation.

            This country is the least racist country in the history of the world–where countries still have slaves and pederasts as “normal’ and “Good” and most countries don’t even have a diverse population like China and Japan, etc.

            We need to celebrate English and the USA—the most exceptional idea in the history of Man.

          • Ben Name

            “You are saying that the Aztecs and native American indians didn’t have slaves, rape, cannibalism, sodomy, transgender confusion, and kill other groups for conquest of “America” or land/power/slaves? They were perfect?????”

            No, but how have you come to this conclusion? How can you then justify the Colonizing Americans similar behavior acted out on an “evil people”?

            “…all groups have evil people and irrational, racist, sexist cultures like the indians.” Exactly the point. Why is English speaking people allowed to be any better than others than?

            “No other country had as large of a middle class of the most mixed races…” So, it’s okay to deny them their heritage? It’s okay to build our country on their backs and not recognize what makes them human beings?

            “This country is the least racist country in the history of the world…” Maybe where you live or from your point of view. By denying the simple right of people being able to express themselves in their ancestral language is denying their existence. That is racist.

            “English and the USA—the most exceptional idea in the history of Man.” Except that neither of those things were invented by Americans. English comes from England and is actually developed from German a mutation of Arabic and Latin and the USA was founded by Europeans with an idea that they didn’t want to be a part of Europe anymore.

          • Susan

            Because the genius of the “English” was creating the Age of Reason, and the Enlightenment and the ideas of “Science”. The ideas of “Justice” and “Truth” was superior to all other ideology (and proven by the flourishing and freedom that Christian cultures created.

            Christian ideology rid the world of ideas of classism, Slavery, Sodomy/pederasty/child sacrifice (all popular practices in other cultures other than Jewish).

            “Justice” is a Virtue which elevates and should reward Merit/hard work/virtue and Freedom of the “Individual”.

            That Good Samaritan idea of dignity and worth to EVERY SINGLE person on earth–even the unborn and weak and old and people of other races/ethnic groups.

            That didn’t happen in any non-Christian cultures where some of the most racist countries where women are treated like cattle, and slavery was common (including in Indian tribes) have been the Chinese/Japanese.

            “Collectives” societies are only tyranny of the Individual which usually kills off the useless eaters. No private property makes humans beings slaves of whomever controls the food and money.

          • Ben Name

            Is that why the people of Great Britain rejected the Age of Reason?

            Is that why it took english speaking countries 200 years to adopt the Enlightenment’s ideologies?

            Is that why the principles of mathematics were first developed by Arabic speaking countries?

            Fighting against Christianity was one of the primary reasons for the development of the Age of Reason, The Enlightenment and of Science. If Christianity had it’s way science would not have developed at all. All those early scientists had to put their lives at stake for their beliefs because what they believed in was apposed by the ruling class, Christians. Christians during the periods of human life you talk of were actually creating classism and slavery. I would wager they were doing the other things you claim they rid the world of but little proof exists since they were the ones writing history at the time.

            The idea of the Good Samaritan comes, as you know from a parable in the Bible. The person Jesus speaks of, the Samaritan, is actually a person not of Christian faith nor even a follower of Christ at the time. So, Jesus’ example that you are following comes from behavior of people with beliefs even older than Jesus himself.

            I know you know that less than 150 years ago slavery was legal in the USA and practiced solely by people claiming to be Christians and that in the name of Christianity, racism was still outwardly expressed as recently as 50 years ago. My own Grandmother, a practicing Catholic was overtly racist because of her Christian beliefs.

            Collective societies are only the tyranny of fear and misunderstanding. Misunderstanding and fear are the tools of control. We live in a collective society. We have a voting structure. We have an economic structure. We have religious structures that all rely heavily on collective behavior. If we all were truly individuals society wouldn’t exist because we wouldn’t know how to relate to one another; we wouldn’t have empathy nor sympathy because everyone would have a singular point of view unique to themselves.

          • Susan

            Pythagorus and Euclid weren’t “arabic”, you idiot. The ideas of the Greek and Romans took all great ideas from anyone they conquered and that is the legacy of Western Civilization which developed the English one. And don’t confuse the muslim/zero lies about the contributions of “math” by “Arabs”. Persians, Assyrians, were not Arabs.

            From Wikipedia no less: “Assyrians initially experienced some periods of religious and cultural freedom interspersed with periods of severe religious and ethnic persecution. As heirs to ancient Mesopotamian civilisation, they also contributed hugely to the Arab Islamic Civilization during the Ummayads and the Abbasids by translating works of Greek philosophers to Syriac and afterwards to Arabic. They also excelled in philosophy, science and theology (such as Tatian, Bar Daisan, Babai the Great, Nestorius, Toma bar Yacoub etc.) and the personal physicians of the Abbasid Caliphs were often Assyrian Christians such as the long serving Bukhtishu dynasty.[56] However, non-Islamic proselyting was punishable by death under Sharia law, which led the Assyrians into preaching in Transoxania, Central Asia, India, Mongolia and China where they established numerous churches. The Church of the East was considered to be one of the major Christian powerhouses in the world, alongside Latin Christianity in Europe and theByzantine Empire.[57] ”

            You better throw OUT everything you were programmed—most of it is distorted because of Dialectic Materialism.

            Your puerile analysis is not worth commenting on since you believe that human nature is “Good” and in Marxist revisionism—-that man is “not” corrupted by power and greed. That Hindus had a CLASSLESS culture???? What cr*p are you talking about—Christians creating “classism”…….ideas that existed WAY before Jesus lived on the earth.

            Read the New Testament!!!!!! The Good Samaritan and Jesus intermingling with prostitutes and poor and lepers was REVOLUTIONARY ideas to ALL cultures. This ideology of TRUE CHRISTIANITY revolutionized Western Civilization–the brilliant ideas of the Greek Masters. You don’t know that “Greeks” had slaves (creators of that “democracy” idea)—that Africa probably originated slavery before the Greeks and Slavs, AND STILL HAVE SLAVERY and POLYGAMY and PEDERASTY.

            Your lack of understanding history and ideology is not worth my time. YOU need to READ and study and throw out the Marxist ideas that Hobbesian ideology perpetuated and then Rousseau projected—which created the French Revolution which was horrific and where the godless people did homoerotic things in Catholic Churches and with the dead headless bodies.

            No matter how “dark” Christian history is—-it is FAR better than ALL OTHER histories—-with the Mother Theresa’s and St. Francis’s and the St. Paul’s which IS true Christianity. Just because immoral people pretend they are “Christians”, doesn’t make them so. But there is no other PERFECT idea than: Every single (individualism) person has dignity and worth and should be their own MASTER—not the SLAVE of the STATE. THAT DUTY demands selflessness—and the necessity of being RESPONSIBLE for ALL ACTIONS…..that is the SOCIAL CONTRACT—-that has to be JUST and enforced by RULE OF LAW—-NOT RULE OF THE STATE OR MAN.

            We know that power corrupts and government is ALWAYS POWER and EVIL. It is COERCIVE. Rule of Law means that JUST LAWS determine the social contracts, not some Hitler or Stalin. Christianity is about JUSTICE—Rule of Law (higher power)—never Rule of Man (Hitler/State).

            There is NO better system…..it can be corrupted like ours is today—which gives “special” rights (which is unconstitutional, etc. ) Don’t compare Marxism with Christianity. They are opposites. Marxism states that the Slave owns you and your minds–(actually they don’t think Free Will exists ==you have no Soul—you are just an animal–“useful idiot”. Read the Communist Manifesto….and understand the dehumanizing ideology which has the State own the person and mother, father, all biological connections is eliminated—even male/female. Can’t dehumanize more than stealing the basic identity of a human being, their male or female nature. Of course—this is what “gender” studies do—to destroy Reason and Logic in children and remove Truth/God.

            That Satan owns this world—-that is understood by Christians. Man is NOT perfect but some ideologies are better than others. Marxism is dehumanization and reduces man to little babies, who can’t do anything for themselves, no freedom/Choice, or own any private property, so they are total slaves and beggars of the State.

          • Ben Name

            “Your puerile analysis is not worth commenting on…” Ha Ha Ha. Yet, that long tirade was for what?

            “Pythagorus and Euclid weren’t “arabic”…I wasn’t referring specifically to geometry.

            “The ideas of the Greek and Romans took all great ideas from anyone they conquered…” So, you are basing English speaking nations on the lessons these bully nations stole from other more intelligent nations?

            “Persians, Assyrians, were not Arabs.” Nor were they Christians.

            “You better throw OUT everything you were programmed—most of it is distorted because of Dialectic Materialism.” There is no way you can conclude this by anything I said. This is what I have heard others call a strawman. It is lame to generalize about other people not to mention behavior of a bigoted mind.

            “…man is “not” corrupted by power and greed.” I never said anything remotely like this.

            “That Hindus had a CLASSLESS culture…” I never said anything like this either.

            “……ideas that existed WAY before Jesus lived on the earth.” I do not deny this either. Yet, you cited that Jesus learned ideals from corrupt people then and so did the English speaking countries. thus, Jesus and English speaking countries built their foundations on polluted information. Building a house on a bad foundation only means it will eventually crumble.

            “You don’t know that “Greeks” had slaves…that Africa probably originated slavery before the Greeks and Slavs…”

            No you are right, I do not personally know and I said as much. But, just as I do not know, you do not know either. If you had lived in that time then you would know. I would bet that it was more likely that slavery was going on in all of those countries and all of those continents.

            “Your lack of understanding history and ideology is not worth my time.” And yet, you go on…..

            “No matter how “dark” Christian history is…” So you admit that Christianity has it’s share of problems and misdeeds.

            “…OTHER histories…” By labeling them OTHER histories you denigrate millions of lived experiences. How rude to not care about all people. How…unChristian.

            “Just because immoral people pretend they are “Christians”, doesn’t make them so…” How can you look away at a few bad Christians and then condemn an entire religion for it’s few misguided people? God and Jesus do not like hypocrites, but satan does.

            “Every single (individualism) person has dignity and worth and should be their own MASTER….” Yet you still deny other’s their rightful place on the earth for not speaking english, deriving their their culture from english speaking nations and following the Christian word of God. You are denying them their individualism and being master of their lives. You are enslaving them to the notion that if they do not choose christianity they are less than human.

            “We know that power corrupts…” Religion holds power. thus, by your statement is corrupt.

            “Don’t compare Marxism with Christianity.” I never did. You are making false assumptions about me.

            “Read the Communist Manifesto.” first, I think you should reread my comment above. You are blindly associating me with Communism. You have no facts that I am coming from a Communist point of view. It maybe your feeling and that is fine but your feelings do not allow you to jump to such a conclusion. You should be more responsible with your actions.

            “Man is NOT perfect…” probably the best thing you have said thus far.

            “Satan owns this world” As a Christian, I do not subscribe to this fear laden position. Fear is what is determining too many people’s minds. Fear is driving a wedge between people. Fear is making people choose a side rather than stand side-by-side. Fear is causing an “us and them” mentality. Christians, following the true words of Jesus and God would not fall prey to this kind of mentality. A good christian looks beyond faults to see the human and love them unconditionally. I suggest you pray on your points of views and ask God if the devil has infiltrated your mind.

          • Susan

            Are YOU saying that God/Jesus tells you NOT to judge evil acts/behaviors? You tolerate evil? Pastor Bonhoeffer (a practicing Christian) stated about “religionless” Christianity in Germany that “Silence in the face of evil, is itself evil. God will not hold you guiltless. To not Speak, is to Speak; to not Act is to Act”. “Fear” is a Marxist construct—as Montesquieu stated—“Totalitarian systems need to promote Fear. Republics need to promote Virtue.”

            You don’t think I know that our Founders (most Christians) created a Republic and they stated Rule of Law (Higher Laws than man-made ones) needed to promote Virtue–which is also the ONLY purpose of Education (Ideas which go back to Socrates.)

            Do you think that great ideas are NOT built on Great ideas—which NO culture is exclusive of some great ideas—BUT the Wisdom of a people is who can be humble enough to know Superior ideas when they see them. That is the brilliance of Rome and the Greeks—and the Christians.

            The muslims stayed a hell-hole because of keeping inferior ideology when better ones made cultures flourish with large middle class and freedom like in no other times of history.

            You are correct—-that “fear” is what is being promoted “24/7″ by our culture and government. I threw out my TV decades ago because I understood the Dialectic Materialism that was forcing the culture in this diabolical direction.

            I do not “fear” Satan. I love God. I am not “fearful” of the government. I was taught the Classical definition—that Government is always force and evil and has to be limited.

            I do believe in the Checks and Balances that were stripped away—to where we are living in a Socialist State and the government is trying to get total control and they have enslaved my children……so I deal with REALITY…..I do what God commands me to do…..

            Carry the Sword for Truth. That is all. If you don’t see that this country was the “Shining City on the Hill” and a beacon to a lot of slaves and the persecuted in other countries…..who still flee to this country, even as it is being destroyed and torn apart from within….then, I can’t help you. Sorry. Go pray for Enlightenment.

            Are you really ignorant of the Assyrian Christians and their history and their persecution and annihilation by muslims? Sickening you are.

          • Ben Name

            The bible states that it is God’s realm to judge.

            Fear existed long before Marx.

            Education goes way beyond Socrates.

            “Do you think that great ideas are NOT built on Great ideas..” No. Great ideas are built on good ideas. Good ideas are built on okay ideas. Okay ideas are built on mediocre ideas. and so forth. Whether something is great or not is only measurable in its only place and time. The future will see it with all its flaws.

            “…the Wisdom of a people is who can be humble enough to know Superior ideas when they see them.” True so long as they do not usurp another people to obtain that knowledge.

            “The muslims stayed a hell-hole because of keeping inferior ideology…” Please take this view point out of the safety of these forums and go to your local muslim neighborhood and tell them you think their ideology is inferior. That’s a principle of learning.

            “I do not “fear” Satan.” Christians are the only religion with Satan.

            “I was taught the Classical definition—that Government is always force and evil…” Really? I had no idea that an evil government was a classic definition. How far back in history is that?

            “…they have enslaved my children…” really? how?

            “If you don’t see that this country was the “Shining City on the Hill” I would never, every claim this. This is simply arrogant to think that the USA’s way is the best way. God speaks of humility in his flock. This statement is not humble.

            “…the persecuted in other countries…..who still flee to this country…” There are still many times more people who are left behind in those countries and still many more who go to other countries. The USA is not the only country taking in refuges from dangerous countries and the USA is certainly not taking in the most.

            “Go pray for Enlightenment.” All in all, you exhibit that typical, arrogant American “knows better” behavior that everyone else in the world is disgusted by. I have pointed out the flaws in your logic and point of view and yet you still have the audacity to tell me that I need enlightenment. God must be ashamed of his Christians.

            “Are you really ignorant of the Assyrian Christians and their history and their persecution and annihilation by muslims?” Yes, I must be since I have never gulped that “Christian” propaganda pill. Please, “enlighten” me with your proof.

            “Sickening you are.” Only because I’m probably right and that is what makes you ill.

          • Susan

            Such an ignorant liar you are. Do your own research. I don’t have time baby-walk you, when any 6 year old can find anything they can type on the internet in a second. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_genocide

            “Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.” (Thomas Paine)

            “Government is not reason. Government is not eloquence. It is force. And, like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.” (Washington)

            “Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.” (Bastiat)

            “Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man. There has never been a really good one, and even those that are most tolerable are arbitrary, cruel, grasping and unintelligent”. ( Mencken)

            Quote by the brilliant genius Newton (so argue with him):

            “If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.”

            Great Minds are created from Great Minds—not mediocre ones. Socrates created philosophy and was thousands of years ahead of his time. Aristotle is the Father of Logic and shaped only from genius minds like Socreates, Plato and Sophocles and Pythagorus, and his ideas were not surpassed or improved upon until brilliant minds like Boethius and St. Thomas came along the writings of the ancient geniuses.

            If you had a brain, you would understand why Egyptians did the same old cr*p for thousands of years…..and same in India/China/Africa/Americas where their civilizations didn’t “progress” for thousands of years for dearth of geniuses—like in the West.

          • Ben Name

            Susan, just because someone said something doesn’t make it an absolute truth. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn’t mean you have to personally insult them. If these are the things that those great minds have passed on to you then you have misinterpreted everything they have done and proved my point.

          • Susan

            Oh, Benny, I have no respect for Marxists, since they spout “Lies” as “Truth” and force their evil ideology on the “Children” to corrupt and warp their normal identity formation.

            LOL. I believe in God, so I understand “Truth” which Marxists never can grasp with their artificial Reality of slavery to flesh and State. You would do well to read the biography of Pastor Bonhoeffer who stated:

            “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”

          • Ben Name

            Susan, you know that’s not what I said. Stop bending the truth into something you can justify your anger over.

          • Susan

            Yes, Benny, I know how twisted tongues work. You evidently don’t realize I am a fundamental Christian, who is only filled with great Joy! : ) I told you, I believe in God/Truth–and that is profoundly so. I even “love” you and that is why I waste my time (just in case) to jog a brain cell. But I understand the Bible, which states that few are “saved”. Most live in Plato’s Cave, so to say.

            I hate sin (as commanded) and believe in lifting the “Sword for Truth/God” always. There is nothing more important than confronting Lies and Misinformation, especially “for the children”.

            If I use harsh words—sometimes—it is to jog people out of their ignorant stupors and drug-induced comas. But I do intend to offend the evil alway.

          • Ben Name

            Filled with joy, yet you speak down to me by twisting my name into the way you would speak to a child. That kind of behavior is certainly not Christian.

            You do not “love” me because you do not respect that fact that I have an equally valid but opposing opinion than you. You also, “waste” your time with me showing you are superior which again is not a Christian behavior.

            If you hate sin then you should reexamine your behavior and pray for God’s forgiveness. Pride: you have too much faith in your own opinion that it keeps you from seeing and understanding other people’s view of the world. Wrath: you feel it is your duty to forcibly change people’s minds. To take from your beloved Dante, vengeance is “love of justice perverted to revenge and spite”. Lust: you chose to belittle me in a personal way to gain control over me. Gluttony: your selfishness fuels your need to convert other people to your way of thinking. Sloth: You fail to do the right thing which is to engage in a meaningful and respectful conversation with me.

          • Susan

            Yes, I am filled with Joy : ) Your warped “thinking” “thinks” a godless worldview is equal to the Christian one which created the Age of Reason, The Enlightenment and the USA. Nothing can compare to the ideology which got rid of “slavery and pederasty and homosexuality as a “Good””.
            Ha….history proves which ideology created the most free, loving (hospitals/orphanages/universities, etc) and flourishing centers and Art and Cathedrals. No culture can compare to the freedom provided by Christian cultures.

            So, there is no “equal” opinion—to the Christian ideology. None. BTW, it is NOT MY OPINION–it is Fact, and St. Thomas Aquinas’s and other geniuses like Machiavelli. I don’t take credit for the “thinking’ of the greatest minds in the history of man, just because I am an avid reader. LOL

          • Ben Name

            You are a sinner and it has been shown. Now you deny your own evil doing. I will be the good Christian here and pray for your savior.

            Oh, wonderful and almighty Jesus Christ, please look in favor of Susan and cast away the venomous thoughts she means to pollute other people with. She has been misguided by evil means and knows not what she is doing. Cast your beautiful, guiding light down on her lighting her way back to the flock. In Jesus’s name, Amen.

          • Susan

            Ha ha. Your god, Ba’al, can judge all he wants! YOU can’t judge, and you don’t know my heart. LOL.

            Pray to your god (Lucifer)—if you want.

            I do believe in Prayer, but only to the One True God, who commands us to carry the Sword of Truth, at ALL TIME. There is Absolute Truth! That we will be hated for following Jesus, and proclaiming Truth—well, it is written, we were told the Truth will be reviled, but know, the Truth will set you Free.

          • Ben Name

            ha ha. Because I have opposing views to you you deny me choice to be Christian. God must be proud of your hateful heart. You represent our faith well.

          • Susan

            LOL You are so irrational. I don’t deny YOU anything.

            You have “Free Will” (if you believe in my God). That you don’t believe in “Absolute Truth” (God) and carrying the “Sword for Truth” and are afraid to promote “Truth” of the Word of God in the public square, and won’t freely proclaim the Truth (because of this absurd warping of scripture to “not” Judge!!!!!) HA! You are talking about not using Reason and discerning “Good and Evil” in the public square. How evil! WE are commanded to confront evil and shun sinners and the corrupt

            People, who are afraid of proclaiming the Truth in the face of evil, (as Bonhoeffer stated) are “not” real Christians, and it is this refusal to confront evil, that led to the Nazis annihilation of 6 million men, women, and children.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Islam spawned algebra and the concept of 0, you stupid twit

          • Susan

            Tell that to the Mayans and Indians and Akkadians and Persians—stupid.

          • DLKeith

            You are close on some of those concepts, Christian beliefs, Christ, and historic events. You might be misunderstanding a few facts, such as many slave holders were not “Christians,” as well as ignoring the many Christians fought against slavery by the teachings of Christ and Jewish scripture. The parable mentioned is a parable with a lesson, not a report. We could go on but you are smart enough to get the point.

          • Ben Name

            ha ha. What a joke, slave holders in the USA were not Christians. I bet they practiced Christianity and that during their time were accepted by their churches.

            Yes you are right, that some Christians fought against slavery too. There’s no denying that.

          • DLKeith

            You said it at the end. They didn’t want to be a part of Europe anymore. They assembled political & economic improvements & many of them practiced the language in use to promote participation in those improvements. I don’t think that that shows “denying the simple right of people being able to express themselves in their ancestral language” by the government of the society. Many families chose to not practice it but they are not denied the chance to in their in their homes.

          • Ben Name

            Context DLKeith. Follow the subject, don’t just interject at the very end of something. Denying the way this song was produced is denying that those languages are spoken in our country. If those homes are in our country.

            If you, personally, don’t want to hear those languages then you should avoid all those places where you might just hear them. That’s the best solution for you because foreign languages in the USA is not going away anytime soon.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Brought to you by PFNTMEBSCST (People For Nuking The Middle East Because Some Countries Support Terrorism)

          • Susan

            Ya—go play with yourself and kids, like the arabs, such a loving “free” “enlightened” worldview which treats women like cattle and children worse. http://www.examiner.com/article/afghan-pedophilia-a-way-of-life-say-u-s-soldiers-and-journalists

          • Susan

            You sound so racist with that “White people”!!!

            Most indians weren’t slaughtered–they died from diseases. Learn your history.

            Are you saying Aztecs, Mayans and indians didn’t kill, enslave, and conquer other tribes–or wipe them out or steal and rape woman, and practice polygamy, cannibalism and pederasty and child sacrifice? Indians were so “noble”, especially the heart-ripping out Aztecs who killed little children for sacrifice to their gods.

            Some ideas are superior to others. The USA idea of Justice and Civil government was far superior than any other political document in the history of man which led to the most free, most productive, most creative culture with the most diverse population in the history of the world.

            The USA is less racist than any other country in the history of the world….the ideas of “Slavery is Bad” came from Christianity—not Indian “beliefs”. The ideology of Christians made pederasty and homosexuality and child sacrifice “Bad” for the world. All ideas were widely practiced through-out all the world.

            “Individual Rights from God” is a Christian concept which led to the Age of Reason, the Enlightenment/Science and the USA. All humankind have enslaved and killed for land and power. In America, at least, we at least tried to limit this killing and demonize it like no other country in the history of the world and established “Rule of Law”.

          • wallawalla

            Diseases that were intentionally giving to the Native Americans in order to kill them swiftly.

          • Susan

            Well, yes, there were insidious evil whites. Most of the deaths were just accidental, since most Europeans had no concept of germs/diseases of that time and the “germs” which were deadly to the Natives. You know that millions died from the diseases brought over to the Old World, by the New World explorers (so God is Just).

            But, oh, how Truth will set you “free” of your warped perceptions. You do Know the Wittgensteinian use of Language, that Marxists control (Dialectical Materialism), to control all YOUR perceptions to create “hate” between all groups–even men and women and women and their own genetic offspring, normalizing killing their own babies. Promoting “Rights from God” to kill human beings.”

            But, I digress, there are insidious evil people in ALL cultures. Marxism is the most insidious, evil ideology on the face of the earth–the most dehumanizing.

            Free Market Capitalists/Private Property believers, at least on paper, unlike any other culture, have devised a government (FIRST TIME IN HISTORY) where ALL people are supposed to be “equal” under the Law. Rule of Law and Justice for cohesion/unity.

            That humans are NOT perfect????? Well, some cultures are superior to others–the measure—“Middle Class”, Diversity of Population, Freedom, Rule of Law–not Man and the “flourishing” of people. Virtue is Excellence.

            It is true–our government is hijacked by Marxists, so we are Post-Constitutional……and have discarded “equal” under the law (God’s Laws) and are like ALL OF HISTORY AND OTHER CULTURES—-where we are under Rule of Man—Slaves of the State!!!

            Throughout history—evil men (like Roosevelt/Rothschilds have warped the law and bought off judges. We used to have SOME safeguards, but no longer. Truth/Justice means nothing to the Supreme Court now.

            Wake up. Words mean something. Christian teaches everyone to LOVE all people, even the sinner, but FIGHT EVIL and Vice. NEVER be silent during the “Trail of Tears” or whatever INJUST LAWS show their EVIL HEAD.

            My five children are part Cherokee by the way—and they owned slaves…..how is that for diversity?????

            Promoting Evil or Vice is destroying “Justice” which is ALWAYS a Virtue. Just Law has to promote Virtue always–then we would have treated all indians like the Quakers—-who gave them dignity and worth and respected their land “rights”.

          • DLKeith

            Research a few years ago ( I wish I had record of the source) reported to have found insufficient or no evidence of that intent.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Diseases the settlers infected them with, to kill them off, completely on purpose. We drove them out of their homes, sacked their villages, burned their culture to the ground, and forced them to give up traditions that were older than christianity. Before the settlers, they had a culture spanning nationwide, with a population comparable to 1900 America. Note how your example of native american brutality is from tribes local to South America?

          • Susan

            Such a liar. Some evil white people, yes. (like in ALL cultures where slavery existed and was normal). ALL cultures conquered weaker groups. It is the history of man since cave men times.

            Blankets with Small pox? Absolutely….but “most” deaths were unintentional—because of little understanding of germs/disease at that time. Lots of Europeans died from the germs bought back from the New World–but, so what—that’s Life.

            BTW, my kids are part Cherokee.

            No group is perfect. The idea of “Noble Savage” was canned and romanticized for “perceptions”/money ONLY—it is a fairy tale.

            Some ideas are superior to others like the polygamous, pederasty, slavery, cannibalism, head-hunting ideology/paganism of many of the native tribes. All tribes—no, some had superior notions of “Justice” than others.

        • Ben Name

          According to some around here the USA is killing it’s citizens too, the difference is a slow death versus a quick death. Killing is killing, quick or otherwise.

        • MARYANN33

          One nation under God makes America…..

          • Susan

            Exactly!

            —but the Democrats “booed” God three times (LOL) at their last Demonic convention. Guess they are Marxists, who don’t believe in “God” and they enshrine pitting every group against each other, fomenting hate between all, even between male/female and mother/child.

          • MARYANN33

            I remember that boo…Not very wise of them…God is answering back now…

        • Erin Ashley Hedges

          Are you kidding me? America the beautiful is not our national anthem, you need to take a serious look at yourself if you believe it is

          • Susan

            It is “America the Beautiful” and is one of the “National ” hymns taught to all Americans, since its inception. A national song—of course. An anthem to America—-absolutely!!!! You need to refer to the definitions of both words. “The” national anthem—well, no.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            National anthem is the Star Spangled Banner. And guess what? This song that you seem to worship was written by a lesbian, by the way

  • larrynotthecableguy

    The Coke ad was diversity indoctrination. It celebrated the doom of America as a white-majority nation. And the melting-pot meme is a tool for white displacement.

    The constant hammering on the “nation of immigrants” cliche is also a propaganda tool designed to weaken cohesion of the white remnant of a former majority of 85-90%. This nation was founded and built by an overwhelming majority of white Europeans. Thanks to the open-door policy we have foolishly followed since 1965, we are an increasingly divided nation and apparently a conquered nation.

    • BonusGift

      The devil would be proud; what was an iconic American company celebrates our genocide.

    • Ben Name

      Long live whitie!

    • wallawalla

      You are aware that your an obvious racist right?

  • Evan White

    bazzareist ad ever.

    • Ben Name

      Most bizarre response to an ad ever.

  • Shermer

    Wasn’t that song written by a lesbian?

    • Ben Name

      yes.

    • Chuck Chuckson

      I’ve seen that assertion all over the place. Which website posted it and how is it relevant?

      • Shermer

        Almost every biography mentions it. It’s an interesting point given that a lot of the patriotic folks who post here seem to think that gay people are intent on destroying everything America stands for.

        • Chuck Chuckson

          I didn’t ask if it was in a biography, I asked what website that people like you frequent, made an issue of it.

          Gays aren’t intent on destroying everything America stood for, they are just used by those who do, just like Black people and third world immigrants.

          • Shermer

            Nobody’s made an issue of it, I just think it’s an interesting detail given the view many people have of homosexuals. But I’m sure they’re glad that you don’t hold them personally responsible.

          • Chuck Chuckson

            I’ve read that not-very-interesting detail on numerous comment forums, and since it’s not in any relevant to the forced browning of America, I’m just curious which leftist website thought it was any kind of response to the anti-White superbowl ad.

            So for the 3rd time, which little leftist cult-website gave you your irrelevant talking points? The Daily Kos, HuffPo, Democrapic Undersewer.?

  • Chuck Chuckson

    Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians< White Countries for EVERYONE!

    "Diversity" is just an anti-White Genocidal Scam.

    • Ben Name

      yep.

  • Out WithThe New

    People who want to be U.S. citizens should required to serve a minimum of 4 years in the military (with no combat training) before they are granted citizenship!

    They will learn to read, write, and speak English properly. They will do the everything that is required of a U.S. serviceman. They will learn and earn the “true” meaning of Patriotism.

    But before they can just be thrown into the military, they must pass a rigid screening test. At the end of their 4 years, they will be combat trained and required to serve 2 years active duty in a war zone like Afghanistan.

    This is real “Immigration Reform”!

    Vote for me in 2016!

    • Erin Ashley Hedges

      This is just embarassing. You do realize this country was founded by immigrants stealing land from natives in the first place, right?

      • BlueMtMom WA

        Tell me one country in the WORLD that is inhabited by it original “owner”. Grow the hell up & stop with that old song & dance. Liberal muff….

        • Erin Ashley Hedges

          So you’re saying it’s perfectly ok to drive people from their homes, killing thousands in the process, and then treat them as second class citizens in their own land? You are a horrible person. That’s what it says. A horrible person. We weren’t even testing for that.

          • Chuck Chuckson

            That’s what you’re promoting – White GeNOcide.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            To even say something like that just points you out as believing white people are the superior race. Just a reminder, that’s blatant racism

          • Chuck Chuckson

            No one who opposes the genocide of the the Indians gets called an “Indian Supremacist”. No one who opposes the genocide of Africans in Sudan gets called an “African Supremacist”.

            But if I object to the genocide of MY race, I get called a “White Supremacist” and a “racist”.

            What other proof do you need that “anti-racist” is just a code word for anti-White.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anti-racist_is_a_codeword_for_anti-white
            And I completely outed a white supremacist. my work is done

          • Chuck Chuckson

            The time when people ran away from the anti-White Thought Police are over.

            ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

            Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

            The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

            Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

            What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

            How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

            And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

            But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of
            genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

            They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
            Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white

          • SiRobertson

            She’s a typical prog moron.

          • SiRobertson

            You’re outed as an anti-white….just shows your ignorance and brainwashing.

            I’m white and VERY proud of it.

          • SiRobertson

            The civilizations created by the different colors prove that superiority can be proven. Any dumbass can look at the demographics in any city and see that.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            So you mean to tell me people who have the exact same human genome as you are less than you because their culture didn’t advance as quickly as yours?

          • SiRobertson

            You need to do some study. NO, they don’t have the exact same genome. All races have 2-4% Neanderthal except for sub-saharan blacks and Aboriginese. Thus, the lower I.Q. collectively. NO, they don’t advance like the light races. Duh, don’t you know anything?

          • SiRobertson

            I see you’re having to look it up…good, maybe you’ll learn some REAL facts for once in your prog life.

          • SiRobertson

            Where are you, Erin, the ignorant? Don’t have anything remotely intelligent to answer with?

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            You’re the one posting racist drivel. You haven’t won, you’re just too stupid to argue with

          • SiRobertson

            What exactly is wrong with admitting that races are different and that they all have their superior/inferior characteristics? It’s true whether you admit it or not. Only an idiot can’t see it.

          • Tracy Michelle Hargett

            You’re kinda comparing apples and oranges. At the time when the first colonists from England, France, and the like came here there were no property laws. The Indians sometimes fought amongst themselves for land but other than that there was no, “This is our land and YOU, white man are going to pay us for it.” God even if they did, where would they use the money? They had no store. Their way of life was vastly different than ours. So, if you want to say we made a mistake by running all over their country and establishing property laws, capitalism, commerce, schools, hospitals, you go right ahead. Since the Indians did not really have any cohesive laws in place preventing them from doing what they did, I’m sorry but they did not have much of a leg to stand on. Those laws are in place NOW because we – Americans – put them in place.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Ok, so let’s justify forcing ancient cultures off their lands, just because they didn’t have laws against it, and ignore the fact that millions of natives died as a direct result of European settlement

          • Tracy Michelle Hargett

            55 million people have already died as a result of abortion being LEGAL and we all know and are WELL AWARE of the harm that abortion can do to the mother and does do to the baby, er, fetus. (Hint – it DIES.) 3,000 MORE babies die EVERY DAY as a result of abortion being legal. So if you are going to talk about lives lost, NO ONE THING has taken MORE LIVES than abortion.

            But I digress – There is something to be said about people who “don’t know any better.” America as we know it was in its infancy when the settlers came. For America to continue in the was that it was – tribal, undeveloped, wild – is that really progress? Do you really and truly think that God intended for the USA to look like that TO-DAY or do you think in your heart of hearts that God makes no mistakes even though men do and that America – the shining “city on the hill” that it once was was NOT meant to be and it was the biggest mistake this world has ever seen? I think that even though the settlers were not good people to the Indians what we have in return is better than what could have been.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            First off, where are you getting those numbers? Second, how can you remotely say anything about what your god intended for the US? By the way, here are a few things the Native Americans had before we arrived:

            oldest democratic system in the world:
            http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/6Nations/

            traditions more ancient than christianity:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States#Pre-Columbian

            A deep found respect for the world, and nature

            a deep respect for all life, honoring even those killed in conflict, and the lives of animals slain for food

            Now for some things that the continental US would be without if europeans hadn’t invaded:

            Nuclear weapons
            pollution
            environmental waste
            gang war
            deforestation
            soil degredation
            loss of viable agricultural lands

            See the problem? A european civilization model is built upon getting what you want through deadly violence. That’s not the way we as a species were meant to survive

          • Tracy Michelle Hargett

            Oookay. So you answered my question. The Indians had it ALLLL Right. So I guess what YOU need to do in order to stick to those principles of yours is move OUT of your apartment, make your own clothes from fur, shoot your own food with bows and arrows and forgo running water and electricity forever and ever amen. And no moving in with the Amish – that’s cheating. Good luck with that!

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Let’s see about that. I actually know how to hunt and live off the land. Have since I was 8. I’m not the one who would die in the first weeks after total civilization collapse. They had it right for their lifestyle, and we forced them to abandon all that, often in the most violent way possible. I swear to god, if I was ever to meet you face to face, and you tried to tell me we were in the right forcing them to abandon everything they had known since before the dawn of any modern religious belief, I will beat you with a history book. America’s hands are far from clean in our history. We treated people as property, forced the thousands of surviving natives from their ancient homelands, bombed two Japanese cities with nuclear weapons in a colossal show of force, in a time when the government was prepared to surrender. Just to clarify that last part, all the stories about how the Japanese were going to fight to the last person were totally false. There are official testimonies from the imperial government stating they were offering their surrender before the bombs were dropped. The war was already over, they were a few days from official surrender, and we bombed them anyways. Try telling me we have clean hands now.

          • Tracy Michelle Hargett

            Why don’t you move to Iran. I’m sure they would loooove you over there. Better yet, Syria. You wouldn’t last 2 minutes.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Ah the standard “move to the middle east, see how long you last” argument. yeah, I’m definitely moving to a country that is extremely well known for major human rights violations. That’s totally happening

          • Tracy Michelle Hargett

            Well??? You hate America; they hate America. It’s a match made in heaven until they realize that you are, indeed, American.

            You say, “yeah, I’m definitely moving to a country that is extremely well known
            for major human rights violations. That’s totally happening.” Well, um, where are you going to live if you cannot stomach the thought of living somewhere that has a clean slate in that area? Antarctica? (Hell, that’s not a bad Idea – round up all the liberals and stick ‘em on a reservation down in Antarctica and see how long before they all kill each other. Never mind the cold, they will find SOMETHING else to get mad about.) My point is that EVERY country in this world has committed SOME human rights violations. We are doing it NOW with abortion! Syria is doing it NOW with Christians. People are being KILLED by Muslims just for being Christian and no other reason whatsoever! Do you care? No, you care about something that happened 150-200 years ago and is over and done with.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            You really thjink the treatment of native Americans ended 150 years ago? They’re still treated like second class citizens. Not quite as badly as before, but have you seen reservation life? Those places are still downright god-awful

          • Tracy Michelle Hargett

            1.) They are alive. Christians in Syria are dead. Aborted babies are dead. A crap load of Ukrainians are about to be dead. Over 3,000 Americans died on 9-11. As long as a person is ALIVE they can do something to improve their situation.
            2.) If they don’t like the reservation, they can MOVE. They might have to pay taxes, but oh well. Indians, since they are indigenous people and were “invaded” do not have to pay taxes. Did you know that? My, my – our government recognizes it might have made a mistake.
            3.) Why don’t you TALK to some of these people? Why don’t you see if they hate America as much as YOU do. I’m sure the Cherokees who own the Harrah casinos like America quite well.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Don’t try to use the casinos as an example of how much they love the government, in places, that’s the only income they have. By the way, that’s great that you think they can just up and move, just like that, but move where? And how? Most don’t make enough to be able to.

          • Tracy Michelle Hargett

            I said “America,” not “the government.” Big difference. America is the everyday people that Americans come in contact with every day. You’d have to have NO BRAIN in your skull to LIKE the government we have now. BHO needs to go, go, go to PRISON. And no, they nor a lot of people have the money to just “pick up and move.” That’s why you get jobs and save up your money and move when you can. Duh.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Unless you live in an extremely low income area, and can’t get a decent enough job to do so. Funny part is, that’s exactly what reservations are.

          • Tracy Michelle Hargett

            Want to complain about no jobs? That would be OBAMA’S fault and all his sycophants. I voted for him NEITHER TIME so I am/we are suffering the consequences of all the low-information voters’ stubborn need to elect a Black president. Mitt Romney would have been a 100x’s better president than the clown we got in there now. He would have got us jobs – regardless of RACE, location, creed, whatever. Obama so loved the poor that he made millions more.

          • Tracy Michelle Hargett

            Ha!! Look at this! From YOUR source: “From the 16th through the 19th centuries, the population of Indians sharply declined.[35] Most mainstream scholars believe that, among the various contributing factors,[36] epidemic disease was the overwhelming cause of the population decline of the American natives because of their lack of immunity to new diseases brought from Europe.[37][38][39][40]” This is not something that I thought of and it is certainly not something that the Europeans could help, at least not at first. The Europeans also brought Catholicism which some tribes readily adopted without force. I am Catholic and happy; this would not be possible if the Europeans had never come here.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            So you just admitted that European intervention led to disease running rampant and wiping out most of their population, an event that would have never happened if we had never come. You claim that the natives readily accepted catholicism, however, the writings of actual native Americans who learned the English language at the time says something completely different. The very fact that it became mandatory for reservation residents to accept catholicism and give up their culture completely in order to assimilate into this new American society is an undying testament to this fact. Species of animals have gone totally extinct. Thousands of years of ancient culture was wiped almost totally from the face of the earth, and the people who were here to begin with were treated like illegal immigrants from china, only there for near slave labor, not to be treated with any measure of equality until the American civil rights movement. I completely and totally fail to see how what happened is better than just leaving them alone from the start.

        • SiRobertson

          Liberals are such idiots.

  • Miko

    Do you want multicultural??

    Blacks:
    13% of the general population
    86% of the crime
    64% of the prison population
    Blacks.
    Please post and repost!!

    • pete

      then why are the prisons over 55 %latino 25% blacks 20% white

      • Miko

        where did you read that?

        • Ben Name

          bathroom wall I suppose.

          • SiRobertson

            Your ignorance is showing, as usual.

          • Ben Name

            Just because I check a book out of your favorite library doesn’t mean you can call me dumber then you are.

      • SiRobertson

        No they’re not.

  • pete

    @miko you are not even american you POS go back to your country

  • Erin Ashley Hedges

    Never mind the fact that the only reason America is a mostly white nation is because of immigrants to begin with, but no, if you dont speak ‘murican, get out. Am I right, guys?

    • Chuck Chuckson

      The only reason there IS an America is because of White people, English speaking White people to be precise.

      • Erin Ashley Hedges

        That’s part of the problem. Look at all the people who had to be driven from their homes in order for it to happen. What about the people who were killed to make this happen? American history isn’t pure, it’s built on blood and lies

        • Chuck Chuckson

          You want to punish White children because hundreds of years ago, their ancestors conquered a continent filled with stone age tribes and built the most advanced civilization in the world.

          You support White Genocide SIMPLY because you’re anti-White.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            We didn’t build the country from the ground up, we used democracy from France, law from Britain, and know how from thousands of years of civilization. Add to that in order to do so, we had to destroy a civilization that has existed since the Ice age. And I’m not punishing anybody, by the way, I’m saying we don’t need to wipe other cultures out completely, rather preserve them. Their past has as much significance as the rest of world history

          • Chuck Chuckson

            There was no civilization here, so our ancestor BUILT a civilization in a wilderness using their cultural inheritance, and you think that justifies DESTROYING their descendents through mass third world Immigration.

            The US government set up reservations (space for Indian communities) for the express purpose of preserving the Indians. Today that same government forcefully forbids White people from being allowed to live in White communities.

            http://www.ihatethemedia.com/feds-accuse-california-marin-county-of-being-too-white

            Diversity is a code word for White GeNocide

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Some of the worst places in the US, set aside specifically for people the government flat out stole land from to begin with. Seriously, you’re just proving your stupidity at this point

          • Chuck Chuckson

            “Blah blah blah. White people bad.”

            You know how you’ve heard about how mean old White people enslaved the Africans and “stole” the land from the peaceful in-tune-with-nature Indians. Everyone else has heard that too, but unlike you WE’VE outgrown those dumb fairy tales.

            White Guilt is for chumps.

            Quit justifying White GeNOcide.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Ok, so I guess 150 years of slavery leading up to the Civil War never happened, then? We were always here, right? America just boomed into existence right before the revolutionary war?

          • Chuck Chuckson

            “Blah blah blah Slavery, Blah blah blah Indians”

            EVERYONE has heard your excuses their entire life.

            No one’s promoting Turkish Genocide because Turks enslaved White Europeans for hundreds of years.

            No one’s promoting Zulu Genocide because they conquered land from the Bantus.

            These arguments are ONLY ever made to justify White Genocide.

            “Anti-racist” is a code word for anti-White.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            You get that from the same site as the rest of your drivel?

          • Chuck Chuckson

            For the love of Zog, will you please remove the picture of that transvestite from your profile pic!

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Sorry *sshole, not censoring myself for your sake

          • Chuck Chuckson

            Don’t do it for me, do it for the children. Wont anyone think of the children!

            Seriously, your posts are bad enough, no one wants to see an ugly tranny too.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            By the way, your white supremacist is showing big time. Where are you copy-pasting all this stuff from? I found it all word for word on a site on how to identify white supremacists

  • karren

    I did not like the Coke ad . So i will not buy Coke products . The only language a big business like Coke really cares about is the one their bankers speak . So that is how i will answer Coke .

    • Ben Name

      yes, don’t support those capitalistic liars!

  • Coffee Fiend

    Since we can’t predict civilization a century from now, it is incorrect to think that progress simply depends upon applying today’s ideas.

  • Hima Layan

    Here’s some food for thought while riding the long train of abuses and usurpations: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0094KY878

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