QUESTION: Does anyone go to Hell anymore?

Does it strike any of you as strange that rockers, movie stars and regular Joe’s can abuse drugs and live lives of utter disdain for God and his principles and then, upon expiration from some drug-induced death, everyone says, “Well, at least now they’re at peace.”  Or, “I guess God needed them more up there than he did here”.

Look, I know we’re all sinners, but some stars openly mock him with their lips and lives and then, when they die a disastrous and selfish early death which destroys their spouse and kids, they magically morph into a saint.  I call bullsh*t.

Check out Doug on Tim Constantine’s radio show:

DO DRUG ABUSING STARS WHO O.D. GO TO HELL?: Doug Giles and Tim Constantine Discuss This Heavy Topic

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  • Croco Dile

    Hell, as it comes first in time of discovery, or revelation, or invention, claims first our fearful attention. In the genial doctrine of the gospel of love, hell is the goal of the soul which dares even to doubt, which is the unpardonable sin. Here we are not vexed with scientific or mathematical speculations of time of transit. Dogma, which so admirably complements the shortcomings of revelation, has set its fatal sanction on the assured fact of instantaneous translation, and sundry other congenial incidents.
    The souls of those who depart in mortal sin, or only in original sin, go down immediately into hell.
    We learn that it is “into everlasting fire” that we go; and once landed safely in it, “the torments of the damned shall last forever and ever,” as Holy Writ of the dispensation of God’s love and mercy so often reassures us for our warning.
    To St. Paul we are indebted for the first glimmer of inspired light on this affair, in the lucid passage where he is said to say, in substance and effect, that in the three days – or one and a half – between the Crucifixion and the resurrection, the redeemer of mankind occupied his time in a trip to hell (Eph. IV,10). This valuable information is illumined further by St. Peter, who relates that while there, the Master “preached unto the spirits in prison” (I Peter III,19).
    Inspired revelation warns us that the souls of the Christian damned in the Christian hell, “are never released, notwithstanding the mass for dead souls” (probably meaning souls of the dead) – no, “the soul that sinneth it shall surely die.” Why then torment dead souls?

    • Hombre

      …your reply is steeped in the wisdom of men, which as the Bible notes, is weaker than the foolishness of God.

      ‘…For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men….’ 1 Cor 1:17-25

      …secondly, you cite Ephesians 4:10 incorrectly.

      The verse you’re looking for to support your argument is Acts 2:27, which references the messianic prophecy in Psalm 16:10:

      ‘…Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption….’

      Both verse are rendered incorrectly in the KJV, which should actually read ‘Sheol’, NOT ‘Hell’. Sheol was the place of departed spirits of the righteous dead prior to the resurrection of Christ. The place of departed spirits of the wicked is termed ‘Hades’. There is no one in ‘Hell’ at present although I’m certain that ‘Hades’ is no Sunday picnic. ‘Hell’ or ‘Gehenna’ is the final, eternal place of torment where the wicked will be tossed upon their final hearing at the Great White Throne Judgement by Christ. ‘Wicked’ being defined as those who have not accepted the atoning sacrifice of the Lord God Jesus Christ Himself for their sins.

      The idea of Christ ever going ‘to Hell’ is an absolute error and a heresy that denies the Doctrines of God and Christ….and yet is popular today among the unlearned due to false teachers…that is their foolishness.

      Thirdly, you have an erroneous idea concerning what a ‘soul’ is. A ‘soul’ is not some disembodied part of a human that has a separate life by itself. YOU are ‘the ‘soul’. Man is 3 parts. Body, soul ~ YOU, the part that thinks and feels, and spirit, or the eternal life essence given by God. The body obviously dies, while the soul, YOU, returns unto it’s maker for disposition. The soul isn’t dead…however according to Revelation 21:8, a ‘soul’, can suffer a second death, by being tossed into the lake of fire and brimstone, which would be what is popularly known of as ‘Hell’ It is the rejection of God, the maker of life itself, which is what condemns a person to an eternity outside of God and life itself…..THAT is a terrifying thought.

      Fourth, you make the assumption that the Catholic Mass ceremony has some sort of Biblical basis in fact, which it does not. There is NO ‘purgatory’. There is NO second chance after death. There is no Hindu reincarnation by which one can get a second chance to redeem themselves. There is NO prayer for dead people that will absolve their sins and get them into the Kingdom of God. Bodily death is the finality for a person’s eternal disposition.

      ‘…it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment…’ ~ Heb 9:27

      See also, Luke 16, ‘The parable of the rich man and Lazarus’.

      Your obvious ignorance of the scriptures I do not blame you for, that is a problem that is related to our culture and the present lukewarm church whitewashing what the Bible says, as well as the many error strewn religious and secular organizations that have propagated un-Biblical beliefs…however, you are now responsible for what you have learned.

      My advice for you, is to recognize your woeful inadequacy, and accept the sacrifice of Jesus Christ for the atonement of your sins, and receive in it’s stead, eternal life.

      ‘…whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God….’ ~ John 3:15-18

      ‘… Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again….’ ~ John 3:3-7

      ‘…Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved….’ ~ Acts 4:10-12

      ‘…if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved….’ ~ Romans 10:9-13

      ‘…Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation….’ ~ Acts 2:38-40

      • Croco Dile

        The Hebrew Deity himself, as quoted by Jeremiah, avers : “the prophets prophesy lies in my name” (Jer. xxiii, 25); and this prophet adds: “The false pen of the scribes hath wrought falsely” (Jer. viii, 8, Revised Version).

        • Hombre

          That is God’s rebuke to those who speak in His name falsely, like you for example.

          • Croco Dile

            You must be very confused, Hombre !
            Those are quotes from the Bible. Check out !

          • Hombre

            …apparently you think that lifting any scripture out of context and then supposing it’s mere recitation will result in your justification will somehow win an argument?

            No Crocodile, you have just demonstrated that you have no idea whatsoever what those verses are about.

  • The Carpathian

    You call “bullsh*t?” Is that a calling? Or is that just recognition of the byproduct of their wasted lives?
    Adolf Hitler was a great housepainter and a snappy dresser. Does that excuse his genocide? No. Mussolini got the trains backon schedule. Does that make him patron saint of railroads? I think not. Kim Jung Un … well….
    We all get what’s coming to us. Our triumphs should be recalled, buy our sins should not be forgotten or excused — just put into perspective. And if the death impacts on spouse or children, then the overall life ends on a hurtful, callous, and some might say, cowardly manner.
    Tell you what: I’ll let God sort them out. No childborn of woman is qualified to judge.

    • chamuiel

      Let me get this straight, if someone murders someone, you are not qualified to judge them?

      I bet the defense attorneys love you.

      • The Carpathian

        The subject is “DOES ANYONE GO TO HELL ANYMORE?” It is not “does anyone go to prison any more?”
        On a criminal charge I can judge fact. There is no need to be ambivalent when a perpetrator is standing over the body with a bloody axe in his hand repeatedly screaming “I wish I could have killed you twice, you bitch.”
        But when it comes to consigning someone to hell, God tells us THAT particular “vengance” belongs to HIM alone. And regardless of how many times the ladies groan “oh, my god” during the night, I know that I am NOT god … so I am not qualified to consign anyone to hell

    • SmirkPyrite

      By their fruit you know them.

  • Peter Osroff

    No one deserves grace.

    • Nestor Nagel

      Including you? Get that chip off your shoulder before God knocks it off.

  • David Mills

    If you want to find the biggest God-haters, go to an Abortion friendly website with comments. Here’s and example:
    “Jesus served ABORTIFACIENT miracle wine to the Cana bride and whipped
    money changers instead of midwife-ABORTIONISTS. That tells me what we
    need to know.”
    Wow, just wow.

  • chamuiel

    Doug, I agree.

  • tom cook

    Hell? You jest, right? Hell is the most juvenile inventiion ever devised to scare the mentally deficient into submission. It is the device of the priestly class to get meat from the droves of bovine believers. Time to grow up pal. There is no god–watch George Carlin on YouTube–and believe: Joe Peci gets it done.

    • beachmom H

      George Carlin is your go to guy for a professional knowledge of God and Heaven and Hell?
      Who do you reference for financial expertise, Bernie Madoff?

      • sudsy

        So you do believe that their is a poor Catholic guy “doing eternity for eating a beef jerky on a Friday”. Sadly and quite unluckily for him, the gravity of that sin changed in the church only a week later!

    • turfbarn80

      You cite George Carlin as the ultimate source of knowledge and then claim other people are mentally deficient?

    • Hombre

      The fool has said in his heart, there is no God. ~ Psalm 14:1

      …when you eventually reach the end of yourself and are standing at the door of eternity with abject fear in your heart, remember the name of Jesus, there is no salvation in any other.

    • PC

      Hey Tom Cook, there’s no Hell? Do you believe in “Justice”? Why or why not? If there is no Hell, where is Hitler at this moment?

      • Croco Dile

        He is good friend with Churchill and Stalin drinking whisky and vodka….. somewhere.

        • Gundog

          One word…Moron!!!

    • spatcher

      When your time comes Tom think of Gomer Pyle…Surprise, surprise, surprise!!!

  • jeffnkr

    WHERE IS YOUR COMPASSION? I DON’T CARE WHAT KIND OF LIFE SOMEONE LIVED; GOD IS MERCIFUL AND GRACIOUS; SLOW TO ANGER AND ABOUNDING IN LOVINGKINDNESS AND TENDER MERCIES (PSALM 1O3:8). God said, in His Word, “And whosoever was not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:15).” I don’t want to see ANYONE go there! But God looks on our hearts. A life characterized by indulgence in sin and rebellion against God does indeed take its toll; those who do so are very, very unlikely to convert to God through Jesus Christ, at the very last minute. BUT IT IS POSSIBLE, however unlikely.
    Thinking that one can wait until the last minute, to ask Jesus Christ to be one’s LORD and Savior, is foolishness. One’s last moment on earth, in this life, cannot be known. It is something for which one must be prepared, AHEAD OF TIME.
    It is a wonder that God loves ANY of us, at all, in the first place. God should throw us ALL into Hell! NONE OF US DESERVE HEAVEN! But on top of His love for us, God decided to do EVERYTHING necessary to secure our redemption. Not one proverbial stone was left unturned. When someone says, “YES!” to God, through Jesus Christ, we should be throwing a party so big it makes a Superbowl winning team party look like an afternoon tea. The angels in Heaven rejoice over one sinner who repents; so should we.

    • Hombre

      …on one hand you are 100% correct, on the other however I would be forced to say that exceptions only prove the rule. If there is no evidence in someone’s life to support the idea that they have given their lives to Christ, then there is precious little reason to believe that they have done so…in fact to support the idea that they are ‘in heaven / at rest/ at peace with God’ is to perpetuate the idea to all, that living outside of the will of God is acceptable.

      MAYBE the guy had a moment of realization before he died, but that is an unknown to us at this point…best to just remain silent and not delude others into thinking they can eschew God and be rewarded with eternal life than to attempt to justify someone that shows no evidence of God in their life, let alone to be as the unbelieving world and media in glorifying the person as someone who is outstanding….and that is the point that Mr Giles is making, I believe.

      • jeffnkr

        I’m glad God looks on our HEARTS! He knows our true nature! There will be multiple millions of people who, in our estimation, are in the wrong place. But they’re in Heaven, because God could look into their heart, and He could see that they looked to Him, through Jesus Christ, trusted the sacrifice of Jesus, and asked God to do in their hearts that which only He can do.
        There will be multiple millions of people in Hell, because they DIDN’T do that, even though they were in church “every time the doors were open”.

        • Hombre

          …sad but true.

  • Hombre

    ….sick of the whole self-righteous argument steeped in false humility and twisting the oft-quoted and yet mis-quoted statement of Jesus in the Sermon on the mount regarding judging. Fact is, Gods word is full of absolutes like for example, accepting the offer of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ for the atonement of one’s sins, or if you choose not to, then to put it nicely, you have no entry ticket to the Kingdom of God.

    If they reject God while they’re living, there isn’t a second chance after death. People have their entire lives to decide whether they want to have the Creator of the universe as their friend, or their enemy through their own self righteousness and selfishness. People have no clue what they’re missing by not having God as their friend….always searching for some new thing to fill the void in their lives that is tailored for God.

    …but what saith the Bible about judging?

    ‘….But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ…’ ~ 1 Cor 2:14-16

    …to think that we as men must simply become dumb at the sight of wrongdoing or evil because all have sinned is absolutely absurd. That is a breeding ground for wickedness. If there is no moral standard, then there is no morality. THAT is what is wrong with this nation: the shouts of foul play and unfairness by the morally profane and destitute of the truth outnumber and muffle the cries of the penitent who have acknowledged the truth.

    • justsayin

      Excellent

    • Croco Dile

      It is easier to believe, than to reason, and people prefer the marvels of romances to the simplicity of history. – Charles Francois Dupuis, 1742-1809, a french professor

      • Hombre

        It is NOT easier to believe. Your professor is not only dead, he’s dead wrong.

  • DonRS

    The sustained adoration of the majority of uneducated, unskilled (other than play acting), drug infested, immoral, Hollywood types, all too frequently suffering and dying of drug overdoses is a scandal. These creeps are as praiseworthy as a a heart attack!

    • olddawg1

      Absolutely! I heard two statements last night on the news regarding the actor (I can’t think of his name) who died of an apparent heroin overdose. The first statement mentioned that he was found with a syringe still stuck in his arm. The second statement was a “tweet” from another actor proclaiming the deceased to be a “genius”. I have a hard time reconciling “syringe in his arm” with “genius”.

    • barb patton

      Whew that says it all!!

  • RAS0503

    Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
    We do not judge, although some think they can or do. There is a clear path to Heaven and a clear path to Hell. It doesn’t take much to see that and to choose which path they will take. God sits in judgment not you or I. I can pray that god will be merciful and unfortunately that is all you or I can do. Like I have heard before, “There but for the GRACE of GOD go I”.

    • Barry

      Jesus said it best in John 14:6: “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father but by me.” God is merciful, but He expects us to take action and ASK for forgiveness of sins and allow Him to run our lives. If we reject Him, He rejects us – it’s that simple.

      • NSunkel

        So, because you are lukewarm–neither hot nor cold–I am about to spit you out of my mouth. Revelation 3:16

      • RAS0503

        Exactly!!! What strikes me funny but sad is, they, for the most part do not believe in God but must believe in Heaven. I do not think you can have it both ways. So, when they say he/she is in a better place they must believe covered in 6 feet of dirt is a “better place”. i want my “better place” to be in Heaven. Period!!!

    • justsayin

      That’s wrong. Christians are called to judge not sit back and say do whatever you feel is right. If you do not judge no one would ever witness to anyone.

      • taliesin319

        No man can judge the soul of another. Behavior however, can should and must be judged in any society which wishes to live in harmony one with the other. Noone is forced to view crime and say, oh well, who are we to judge ? We have the faculty which enables us to know that certain actions are deleterious to us all and must act to correct this.

      • Jane18

        We are not to judge to heaven or hell, but, we are to discern(think about, meditate over, and then make a decision)about the wrongness or rightness of a situation or a person.

    • Tom Harlander

      “Test the spirits if they be of God.” If they live an ungodly life, then they are not of God.

  • razz

    God judges…. and He will not be mocked.

    • spatcher

      Jesus is coming and boy is he pi$$ed!

  • AR154U

    Doug you forgot to mention the memorials and alters set-up outside their homes, studio’s or where they died in a fiery “accident” (usually breaking the law) by their fans or fellow actors. If believers of God are dumb, silly and disgusting,.. then why the need to canonize these entertainment types by our media?

  • betty

    Why would anyone want to wait until the last minute? You might not be concious. Some have heart attacks and drop dead. Life here is about 70. Years. Eternity is forever. And the final must be made before you die.

  • Ray Sheehan

    The Lord shows His mercy to those in Christ Jesus, and His judgement to those not in Christ.
    I would wish Hell for no one, however, God shows His love for us in this, while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

    • Croco Dile

      The Christ of the gospels is in no sense an historical personage or a supreme model of humanity, a hero who strove, and suffered, and failed to save the world by his death. It is impossible to establish the existence of an historical character even as an impostor. For such an one the two witnesses, astronomical mythology and gnosticism, completely prove an alibi. The Christ is a popular lay-figure that never lived, and a lay-figure of Pagan origin; a lay-figure that was once the Ram and afterwards the Fish; a lay-figure that in human form was the portrait and image of a dozen different gods. – Gerald Massey, The Historical Jesus and the Mythical Christ

      • Ray Sheehan

        Faith, my friend, faith.

        • Croco Dile

          Ray, Faith will always be deceived !
          You will be deceived.

          • Ray Sheehan

            Faith is the evidence of things not seen

          • Croco Dile

            “The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means, and the people love to have it so” – then, and all through human history.
            Professional priests undeniably devised all “revealed” gods and religions; professional clergy are yet the propagandists of these ancient myths as “religion” of God, as “articles of faith necessary to salvation” – with damnation as the alternative.

          • Ray Sheehan

            However, if you are right, and I am wrong, we go poof! when we die, and that’s all there was. If I’m right and you’re wrong…..
            I like my odds better than yours, I’ll stick with my faith in Jesus.

          • Croco Dile

            Ray, I understand your position.
            It is a result of the most basic instinct of all living beings – the instinct of self preservation.
            Those devilish priests, the promoters of all religions, know to stimulate it and to instill fear in the minds of good human beings to gain control of our minds (and our money).

          • undeRGRound

            Excellent short form of Pascal’s Wager…

          • cris

            You, Croc, are the one being deceived….

            “Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction;”

          • Croco Dile

            When you say God what or who is on your mind ?

            A possible Infinite Creator or this Jewish tribal crook and mass murderer Jahveh ?

          • David Mills

            U.C. Berkeley?

      • Gundog

        What a croc, Crock!

      • razzy1492

        Croco dile read John 3:16. Instead of the croc you read. You need a brain laxative to cleans your brain of all that crap.

        • Croco Dile

          Thank you, razzy, your suggestions is sweet :-)
          I had to put out a lot of effort to fill my brain :-)

      • Alleged Comment

        LOL!

        • Croco Dile

          Thank you for this very sophisticated comment !

  • Al Chemist

    Doug, you are absolutely correct to call Bullsh*t on this one. I am pretty sure that at least some of the Hollywood crowd consider themselves (at least) Demigods. That means, of course, that they should be worshiped during their hedonistic lives and great monuments built to them when they die (no matter how they die).

  • me

    Boy the population of hell is going to go up with the dirty politition, the big businessmen, the bankers, the elite and all the others which have robbed and pillaged the world for their own gain. On judgement day there will be a very long line of them going down there. St. peter will take no bribes.

    • Hombre

      ‘…Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:…’ ~ Matt 7:13

  • Lever Gun will Travel

    They have to say that the dead druggie is going to heaven, and is ‘at peace’, otherwise it might require a judgmental look at their own lives.

    • Jane18

      These people really believe their own lies. They know there is a GOD, a heaven, but don’t want to admit if there are these two, then there must be a place called Gehenna. It is really the bad side of the gulf in Heaven, bad on one side and the children that accepted and loved GOD on the other-Luke 16:19-31. The rich man was burning with embarrassment of the degrading place he was in and tormented by the fact that he could and should have been a good man. With him being where he was, those riches had to be from ill-gotten gain, plus he ignored his fellow man and their lowly(sick and poor) lives. He was not a good guy…

      • Nestor Nagel

        Well, getting rich by playing music – even if it’s loud and incomprehensible to some – is a lot better than being a crooked banker who plays poker with other people’s homes, causing them to lose them, or a factory owner who knowingly exposes people inside and outside the plant to cancer-causing substances. Those latter 2 are the ones who’ll burn in Hell, if anybody will.

        • Lever Gun will Travel

          There’s plenty of evil to go around, lots of folks from all walks of life are riding the luge to a bad destiny.

          Of course assuming a banker is corrupt or a factory owner wants to destroy the environment is a victory of it’s own kind of stupid. Just like assuming an entertainer is virtuous and deserves to be glorified.

  • sgt.greywolf

    I’ll see that Bull S#%t and raise one HORSE S#%T! I think Scripture is pretty plain about what happens to folks who mock God. And it doesn’t have any thing to do with peace.

  • 1marksman

    The Holy Bible is clear on the path to heaven. Jesus said ” I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father but by me. It pains me to see so many people in our nation turning away from Jesus and embracing the Secular beliefs. I see churches turning from God and embracing sin such as homosexuality. Gods word says he is the same yesterday, today and forever. Gods word doesn’t change, people just drift away from the truth thereby condemning themselves to eternal torment. I have a great many friends and relatives that have fallen into this trap and I grieve for them. I pray every day that they wake up to the truth of God and come back into his fold. This nation has kicked God out of almost every aspect of our lives such as Schools, government, and even some of our churches. People wonder what has happened to our nation, with school children being murdered, unborn babies being murdered, and morality being a thing of the past. People ask where is God when mass shootings happen. God is the perfect gentleman, if you kick him out he leaves. So when these evil things happen if we want God to step in and help we have to invite him back into our lives. God says, If my people repent and turn from their evil ways I will heal their land. This is what I pray happens. This Nation was built on Christian Values and Principals. Because of this our nation has been the greatest nation of all time. We have enjoyed the blessings of God like no other place on earth. If we want to continue to enjoy the blessings of God, we must return to him. Father in Heaven, I ask that you pour out your Holy Spirit on this nation. I ask that you convict the hearts of your people so they might return to you and once again experience the Joy, Peace, and all your Blessings that are offered to us through Jesus Christ your Son. AMEN

    • Greg

      Wonderfully stated!

    • taliesin319

      52 % of the Nation’s electorate did just that in a public forum which denied him 3 distinct times and expressly told him- we don’t want you anywhere near us.
      He had no problem with that. How’s the weather ? seen a lot of killer tornadoes, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, lately ? Yeah, so have I.
      Hubris is a word ancient Greeks used to define an act of defiance directed at
      a god. It was worse than overweening pride, was always punished. Couldn’t happen to us of course, we are way too bright for that. Right ?

      • Nestor Nagel

        The extreme weather is the indirect result of global warming. That’s mankind’s real sin. The rest is all just sour grapes from old folks who didn’t get enough pleasure when they were young.

        • Mikebark

          God does not exist and neither does global warming

          • Dave the Retired Marine MSgt

            Well then, at least you’re right about the Global Warming scam.

      • Trish P

        When I heard them deny God 3 times I immediately felt like I got hit in the gut. I wouldn’t be surprised if a great percentage of Democrat voters even know that those at the Dem convention tried 3 times to remove God from their platform. So many of them are clueless and pay little attention (and don’t try to find out alternative news sources) and are ignorant. Of course, the media is complicit.

    • Jane18

      You got it marksman! HE promised blessings for our great country and people if we would trust in HIM and do what HE said. But, there were cursings also, that we, as a nation, brought on ourselves because of our own personal failures, poor leadership for our country, a liberal supreme court,and soooo many false teachers of HIS Word.

  • Ridley

    My Grannie always said she had already lived in he ll by being on Earth with so many idiots, so she was going to heaven. I agree.

    • Alleged Comment

      Yeah, the Catholics like to scare people by telling them you going to hell. Hell is right here on earth! And believing Catholics was the proof.

      Look how many boys they raped. One of the most DESPICABLE acts by grown men. And not any grown men, but men who claimed they work for god!

      PURE EVIL was staring at you when they said that!

      • ort

        You need to sort yourself out. You are wrong on so many points. Hell is a very real place that Jesus/God said was “prepared for the devil and his angels.”
        However, humans who don’t repent and accept the free gift of salvation provided by Christ’s death on the cross, will die lost and will end up in hell forever.
        It’s just that simple.

        • Alleged Comment

          No you are wrong here! Simple things are for idiots.

          The Greek word, aionios, the Greek translation for that word means AGE LASTING not ever-lasting meaning during the 1000 year Sabbath millennium Satan and his demons are held in restraint or the bottomless pit.

          • ort

            So you completely missed Revelation 20:10 then…….
            “And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown in the lake of burning sulphur, where the beast and false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.” AFTER his 1000 year imprisonment in the pit, the devil will be released for a short time. But his eternal destiny will be the lake of fire. Him and the rebellious angels and the unsaved will spend eternity there.

            Keep it simple.

          • Alleged Comment

            No, you are wrong here… AGAIN!

            Satan is again cast into this “lake of fire” that eventually engulfs the entire planet (in the renewal).

            Satan is a spirit being cannot be harmed by fire. Instead the torment comes from seeing the renewal of the earth after the lake of fire engulfs the entire planet has been purified by this fire.

            And because this renewal is the everlasting kingdom or rule of God Satan’s torment will be forever as his kingdom is destroyed PERMANENTLY before his eyes and replaced with God’s righteous rule.

            Got anymore simple ones again?

          • ort

            Your “exegesis” came off a gum wrapper. That is possibly the stupidest thing I have ever read. I am so done with you.

          • Alleged Comment

            Sorry, got a little more complicated then you could understand and I understand you do not want to reveal how simple you are.

          • Ridley

            So you are a satanist… you seem to know quite a bit more about evil than you do of God and decency.

          • Alleged Comment

            God’s kingdom or rule will be everlasting, or there will be no end to God’s rule. It will be forever and ever and the only people fit to be in it are those with everlasting life, not dead people.

            Satan’s kingdom or rule on earth is about to end, with the above in mind, we see how he will be tormented day and night forever and ever, as is it written.

            This is the most egregious of punishments I can think of, but I do agree, your ignorance comes darn close!

          • Croco Dile

            He is clearly a victim of this terror instilled by priests in soft heads of naive people……

          • Ridley

            Ancient Greeks believed in gods and goddess’ and monsters… not God. You can not equate aionios to God.

          • Alleged Comment

            The Greek word, aionios (from which comes the English word eon), translated “everlasting,” means “agelasting.”

          • Ridley

            Hence… a Greek word and obsolete at that. Point made moron.

          • Alleged Comment

            What? Ignorance is not obsolete as you prove with every post.

        • Ridley

          Very correct ort… Grannie always said as long as we gave our lives over to the love of God we would end up in heaven with him.

          • Alleged Comment

            Dear Idiot,

            Can you show me any verse in the Bible that says anyone is going to heaven?

        • Croco Dile

          The great dogmatist of the faith, Paul, thus states and restates his doctrine, of which he is the originator : “For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.” (I Cor. XV,22) This theorem he elaborates at great length and with much iteration in others of his letters, of which this is a fair example : “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, … even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression…. Through the offence of one many be dead. For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.” (Romans V,12-15,19)
          And to cap his direful dogma, he emits this positive assurance : “Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law.” (Gal. III,13)
          Human language is inadequate for comment on the fearful fatality of these fatuous sentences. The fairest part of the earth has been under their blight for nearly twenty centuries; what an awful enormity of falsehood !
          A childish fable of a talking snake and a muddled “curse,” about as pregnant of the sense of “original sin” and eternal damnation as “chops and tomato sauce” are of breach of promise of marriage, are warped and twisted and tortured by the adroit Sergeant Buzfuz of Christianity into the priestly doctrine of eternal damnation in hell fire for all humanity! As there never was any Adam, it cannot be true that “in Adam all die”; therefore its corollary that “even so in Christ shall all be made alive” cannot follow. As it consequently is not true that “by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin,” the superstition of “original sin” is false, as it is likewise false that “so death passed upon all men,” in the sense of the soul’s “death by sin” of Adam inflicted upon all succeeding generations by a “curse.”

          • Nestor Nagel

            Yeah, Ol’ Paul was just another angry guy on a power trip – along with Obama, Bush (Sr & Jr), Clinton, and on down the line through the kings and queens of Europe (with the possible exception of Louis-Philippe) to the first b*stard that used fear and distrust to get power over other people.

          • ort

            God’s Word is 100% true. It is “Theopneustos”–“God breathed.”
            If you do not take God at His Word, then you cannot know for sure if you are saved. Personally, I don’t think you are. You have a reprobate, apostate mindset.

      • Jane18

        AC, did you know that rape, just like murder(premeditated and/or criminal homicide)was to be given the ultimate judgment here on Earth? They, the offenders, were supposed to be executed and GOD would take care of their soul and spirit when HIS time came with them. But no, we have a bunch bleeding hearts, democrat and republican, that think they know better than GOD. And people wonder why we have so many rapes and murders…the men and women(rapists and murderers) do not fear our laws anymore. We need to go back when a death penalty meant a death penalty!

      • Ridley

        My Grannie thought anyone who thought like a liberal was the hell we all lived with on this planet Alleged… I am assuming that you are one of those people she would have been completely disgusted with on all counts. As a Rape survivor I take offense to what you have posted and I know every other one would as well. My Grannie was Catholic, my mother is Catholic… I am not. I was never confirmed because my Native American Father would not allow us kids to do so.

        Every single human being has their faults; however, if we give ourselves over to the love of God we will be forgiven for our transgressions. That is what my Grannie knew to be true.

        • Alleged Comment

          No, some will not be forgiven. That’s pretty scary, otherwise there would be no need of the lake of fire, right?

          • Croco Dile

            And there is no lake of fire !

            All horrific fantasies invented by devilish priests to conquer soft heads of naive human beings.

            Free yourself off this terror !

          • Gundog

            What a croc…Croco! Brilliant, Cupcake! And you have personal knowledge about this? You have to
            be so much smarter than millions of Christians and Christ himself. Thank you for
            setting everyone straight. Jesus spoke more about Hell than he did about Heaven. The Son of God must have thought it was important.

          • Croco Dile

            Looks like mass psychosis…… a known phenomenon.

          • Alleged Comment

            Correct, but only after all unrepentant sinners perish in it. Bye-bye!

        • John C Edwards

          Yes, we should give ourselves over to God’s love, but that isn’t enough! Jesus said clearly that not everyone who calls him Lord will be granted eternal life, unless they do the will of the Father. As I see it, that means (1) forgiving those who hurt us; (2) asking forgiviness of those we hurt; (3) helping the poor, the widowed, and the orphaned; (4) being baptized and partaking of the sacraments, God’s physical means of grace; (5) worshipping God in spirit and in truth; (6) repenting of our sins daily to God; and (7) telling others what God has done for us. That’s the short list – tthere’s more. Grannie was sweet, but she isn’t God and she can’t save you.

        • Wingedgodd3ss

          Thank you for providing some logic. I am sorry for what you have endured….I’m happy you believe in God and so you have His love to comfort you. God bless.

        • Nestor Nagel

          This has nothing to do with being liberal or conservative and you know it. You may not follow your Catholic faith, but don’t condemn those who do. There’s many roads to salvation, and only God can tell us if we’re on the right road, and He’ll do that when we see Him face to face. But one key to false religion is preaching hate and exclusion. Turn away from those who of, even if they’re the editor-in-chief (yes, Doug, I mean YOU).

          • Ridley

            It has to do with being a decent human being. We teach our children not to lie, cheat, steal or hurt others with words or actions unless their lives are threatened. They are taught forgiveness of others and themselves for any wrongs they are done or do. They are kind, honest, helpful, caring decent wonderful kids. Liberalism is not intelligent, sensible or good. It is intolerant and ignorant.

          • Nestor Nagel

            You simply plug in the term “liberalism” and hang on it everything you dislike. If you consider yourself a Conservative, or a Christian, you probably wouldn’t like it if people did the same with you. I’m neither, myself, so I see these things. You are doing a good job with your children. But don’t teach them to condemn all the believers of some religious or political belief system. If you do you’re the one who’s intolerant. And I know you’re not. So as I say, this has nothing to do with liberalism or any other “ism” or “ity”, and everything to do with giving your neighbor a fair shake – being a decent human being, as you say.

          • Ridley

            We don’t teach our children to “hate” anything, we discuss things with them and at their ages they make up their own minds regarding things. And sadly enough, people do it to me on a daily basis. I am a country girl whose husband moved her to a suburb. I do not fit in here and women can be very nasty regardless of their religion, ism’s or whatever else. We have been here for over 16 years and I do not have a single “friend” in this area. They have numerous reasons for pointing, laughing, ridiculing me out loud to their “friends”. We were members at our local ymca, a place where I thought people would be nice. No, they were not, they called themselves Christians and yet they said rude, horrid and filthy things to me because I was in better shape than they. I am no longer a member there. I wear my felt in the winter and people point and laugh, apparently they don’t realize they live in Texas or that on any given day I am off to my Mother’s ranch to help with the cattle, run fence or numerous other jobs. Nor do they know that I train horses and dogs and I dress the way I do because it is who I am and how I was raised. They do not realize that while they are having lunch I am outside in the cold/heat working my rear off helping others. I don’t charge for my training services because I help abused animals. And yet they seem to think it is fine to sit in judgement of me while they walk around with earrings in their faces, marking their bodies with tattoos or driving around in their foreign cars spending more money on clothes and shoes in a week than I do in years because they think those things make them somehow “better” than me. I have 5 more years in this he ll hole and I am returning back to the sticks where decent people treat you with respect because they know it must be earned to receive it. So, yes, I will continue to equate liberalism in this area where I live to ignorance, intolerance and hate because that is how they have treated me. Not one person has ever taken two minutes to get to know me, who I am or what I am about and yet they still think they may act in the manner they do. I want to get so far away from Austin that I never have to think about it again unless I am standing on the steps of the capital with my weapon slung across my back supporting the 2nd Amendment. Austin is filled with filthy, disgusting liberals who moved here from somewhere else and think they have the right to mock, ridicule and criticize how Native Texans choose to live. They all belong in he ll.

      • Wingedgodd3ss

        Not all Catholics raped people-that is ignorant to even imply much less say. So all Penn state coaches raped too right? All of them in the history of that school? How idiotic.

        • Alleged Comment

          Hundreds, if not thousands of cases are being brought against the Catholic church, but only ONE coach?

          And don’t even get me mentioning the history on the Catholic church on this. Could go up to the hundreds of thousands.

  • Gundog

    Memo to Jesus… You wasted your time coming to Earth and dying and being raised again just to redeem us and save us from Hell. No one goes there anymore. Right? Heaven must be a crowded and swinging place with all the sinners there.

    • Hombre

      ….sad thing is that is what the world thinks at this point…or at least what they want to believe, since they’re busily rewriting the Bible to suit their particular fancies.

  • cris

    Unless he had genuinely accepted Christ as Savior earlier in life or somehow repented and asked Jesus into his life as he was shooting up, then……….

  • Warrior of God

    There will be a lot of people, living what they consider the high life, partying until they die, only to find they will be living in HELL for ETERNITY. You might not believe my words, but why take the chance of being a lost soul destined to burn in Hell.

    • Alleged Comment

      No, you are wrong here. They are granted eternal life for SINNING???? The penalty of sin is DEATH, not life.

      The Bible says eternal punishMENT not eternal punishING!

      • Jane18

        You are correct, AC. They will be gone…eternally! And we will live eternally with The Father. Gonna be a great time!!

        • Nestor Nagel

          Will we be able to watch the Superbowl? Without commercials?

          • Jane18

            Nestor, football or not, whatever we have in Heaven with GOD, will be so much better than anything our little minds can think of…

      • ort

        Revelation 20:10. Read it.

        • Alleged Comment

          I did reat it, correctly. You are not reading it correctly.

    • Jane18

      When the Great White Throne Judgment is made, then will be the “Lake of Fire–Hell”, for those that did Not choose GOD! Right now, Satan has been the only one by name, that has been condemned to death. That Lake of Fire will be the death of the soul and spirit, the final death. There will not be all this burning into eternity, what would Heaven be like if all these souls and spirits are just burning and burning? Think of that fire like this: set fire to a piece of paper, what happens? It is destroyed with a little smoke going up from it. That’s what will happen to those that reject GOD now and after Jesus comes again. The people on the on the wrong side of the gulf in heaven(now-Luke 16:19-31) that never heard the Truth have that chance to choose HIM. As my pastor says, it is not a second chance, they never had a chance to start with, because of what is taught by false teachers, pastors, priests, imams, holy this’, father that’s and so-called reverends! . You would think every soul and spirit of that soul would naturally choose Jesus, but even then some will not…much to their damnation!

      • ort

        You cannot change the Word of God. It clearly states that torment is “forever and ever”.

        • Alleged Comment

          Humans do not have everlasting life when they sin. This is obviously about the Devil.

          • Dave the Retired Marine MSgt

            Why would Satan punish those who do his work?

  • Wes

    Right on, Doug. There’s a highway to hell but only a stairway to heaven.

    • Alleged Comment

      Whaaaa? No escalator??

      • Wes

        Correct. No escalator.

        • MyronJPoltroonian

          Not up on his classic rock and roll, is he?

          • Alleged Comment

            Ahh yes, it is by The Doors, of course!

          • Wingedgodd3ss

            You just can’t fix stupid

      • MyronJPoltroonian

        Not up on your classic rock and roll are you?

        • Alleged Comment

          I do. I think it is a Johnny Credit song?

  • taliesin319

    You call it correctly and can lay the blame squarely on Priests, Ministers, Rabbis etc, who have for the most part have become so non judgmental of behavior that self destructive behavior is touted as a sad disease the cause of which cannot be discerned. All addictions are diseases which unlike Cancer and Myasthenia Gravis and the like are diseases for which the person afflicted volunteered. The way to destruction is broad and alluring at first glance but that is an illusion. We are given the impression that God is some sort of doting , totally ineffective dad who no matter what you do, or who you take the trouble to harm will just love you. Moreover, they all seem to think that His Justice will allow His errant children to skate into glory without giving even a random thought to the Ten Commandments. The Decologue was written in stone by the Finger of God to be internalized. The first and most effective teachers of morality are a persons parents, then their religious teachers. Political correctness is the new Universal religion prescribed by all of Western Civilization and its killing us.

  • Paladin67

    I CALL BUL….. nutz.. beat me to it..
    As a Christian, I am supposed to feel sympathy.. but when someone has everything going for them, money, fame, power…and then kill themselves while indulging in wrong things, I can’t feel sorry..
    I just don’t have it in me.. that stinkin’ human nature thing…

  • Alleged Comment

    Those that sin now and are godless are only in danger of CONDEMNATION. One step away from being judged and deactivated forever and their personal code destroyed permanently.

    Everyone will be judged in EVERYTHING both good and bad, even the secret things. If you are found wanting, see above.

    Only those in Christ (passed requirements) are saved at this time.

  • John Duckner

    Hell is Real

    • Croco Dile

      Are you hating your kids so much ? Your friends and relatives too ?

  • victorbarney

    YES: OBAMA! Here’s the kicker folks, self-proclaimed “Anti-Christ”(Marxist) “Obama” not only is Revelation’s 11’s “Anti-Christ,” but also the scriptural “scapegoat” for u.s. Anglo-Saxons & Jews, who are to be judged first! I just can’t make this stuff up folks! However note: Only 144,000 Anglo-Saxons & Jews will survive the prophetic two-witnesses of Revelation, chapter 7 & 11, which still MEANS 11% DEATH! OUCH!

  • Sam

    If you don’t take Jesus into your hearts as Lord and Savior, then you are going to hell. The Bible says so. If you don’t believe in Jesus or God, then you are still going to hell. If that offends you, then you will still go to hell. It is what it is. God is still in charge, not the lying liberals.

    • John C Edwards

      Spot on! I would add:
      Not believing in the Bible won’t make its truth go away
      Not believing in sin won’t make one’s sin go away
      Not believing in Satan won’t make Satan’s temptation go away
      Not believing in hell won’t make hell go away
      Not believing in God will, however, make God leave you alone…in hell
      Hell is where God is not – no light, no warmth, no love, no hope, no future, no joy, no end to misery, no peace, no blessing, no rescue, no redemption, no salvation, all because that is the because the people in hell don’t want what God freely offers
      Great future, wouldn’t you say?

    • Nestor Nagel

      From the way you talk, it sounds like you’re in charge, not God. That’s a sin of pride. See you in Hell, pal.

  • Proud2bfromtheUSA

    PC speech wont let us call sin sin anymore so I guess they don’t know what sin is and If you tell them they are sinners you are accused of judging people. Well guess what the bible tells us to judge others we are supposed to be the salt of the earth a preserver of what is good and a destroyer of what is bad. we are supposed to judge righteously and with and through the lens of the Christian faith. His word lays it out very plainly how we are to judge the world we are to be a light to the world showing others his way and the path to salvation. Christians have failed because we don’t stand up to others and say rightly go and sin no more. repent and be forgiven. No we tell the lie that if you confess your sins you are forgiven. You have to confess your sins and repent and you will be forgiven.

    • Nestor Nagel

      Well, my grandad stole some paint. I might add he was dirt poor, this was the Depression, and he had 10 kids. They told him he had to go confess the sin to the priest. He did, and the priest said, well you have to make restitution. What does that mean? Well it means you have to give back that paint. How in Hell am I going to give that paint back? It’s all over my kitchen ceiling! So he didn’t make restitution. But he was a fine man who worked hard all his life, and anybody who say he belongs in Hell is a sanctimonious hyprocrite.

  • Eric Haulenbeek

    Anyone who doesn’t believe in hell has a real wakeup call coming.

    • Alleged Comment

      Been there, done that, huh?

      • Freddy Neat Shee

        Yep, and the t-shirts are *highly* over rated :-P

    • charlie

      hell is the place of departed souls and is NOT the lake of fire to which you are actually referring

      • Eric Haulenbeek

        Rev. 20: 11-15

  • WASP

    I’m sure the fascist-democraps and other retarded libtards hope not. Satan is going to build an annex to hell when this herd of vermin mercifully croaks.

    • cbj

      Satan does not own Hell, does not control Hell, is not in charge of Hell. Hell belongs to God; Satan will be on the receiving end in Hell.

      • charlie

        nothing happens to anyone in hll. you must be confusing it with the lake of fire where judgement is given

        • Ralph

          “Don’t fear the one who can destroy the body, but beware of the One who can throw both body and soul into hell”… Jesus

  • goldenvessel

    ! Cor. 3:15 explains this issue and will help your understanding of, “Just Saved.”
    John 15:7 is for those who have repented and seek the face of GOD through HIS Son, Christ Jesus. The difference between being saved from hell and being saved from yourself. What price one soul?? Jesus paid in full for all those who come to HIM. How much do you owe HIM if it is a gift and is free?? Saved from much and you will love HIM much, if saved from little you will love HIM little. Once you are HIS you are in HIS hands and HE is not going to let you go. HE will chase you till HE catches you for HE never gives up on us! Keep praying for those who have strayed and give GOD something to work with, Ps. 103:20! To many of GOD’s Holy Angels are waiting to be put to work! Matt. 18:18-20 will cause a ripple in the realms of evil and set captives free! o/ o/ o/ o/ o/ o/ o/ o/ o/

    • dclach

      This is incoherent nonsense and, even at that, doesn’t pertain to those have lived and died while openly denying the existence of God or the reality of heaven.

      • Nestor Nagel

        What if you say you honestly can’t be sure, but you try to live by the Golden Rule? Do you still go to Hell?

        • dclach

          According to the Bible, without faith in Jesus Christ, trying to live by the Golden Rule won’t do it. Salvation is by faith in him and not of our own works. Besides, even if salvation were by works, only actually living a perfect life would suffice; simply trying wouldn’t be enough.

  • Mark Robn

    Good Point — Successful actors and rock stars get rich and party hard — and have a good time doing it — and then they die… Then, people say: well, at least they are in a better place. —- If they were a dirty rotten person on Earth, partying, drugging, with money to burn, how can Heaven, where you worship God in His majesty, be a better place than where you were? —- I believe Heaven is better, because I know what sin and evil is, but looking at it through their eyes, Doug has hit this one on the head!

    • Nestor Nagel

      …and your recap of his “article” is longer than the article itself. You should get that fat paycheck from the Propaganda Bureau instead of Doug.

  • jjkrjw

    I never hear about Hell anymore, even at church. All I hear is that we have a loving and forgiving God. But as a child, it was made clear in church that God knows everything you think and do, and to break any of His Commandments meant you were going to Hell. So even if I was tempted to lie to my parents, that fear of going to Hell kept me on the straight and narrow because God knew all.

    • charlie

      because the church system has been taken over by the evil we are warned about in scripture. Very few church leaders these days are truly Christians. They are hirelings. They are in it for what they can get out of it, unlike a true Christian leader who is in it because of love and commitment to Jesus. Men truly called of God are not welcome in most churches because they preach about sin and its consequences and people dont want to hear that. But a man truly called of God cannot escape bringing truth whether it is welcome or not.

    • HappyDog1

      Then you are in the wrong church or the elders need to fire the pastor and become Biblical leaders. You are right because most pastor/teachers do not preach sin because they may offend Luke warm members. Do not. Sit in a pew and be a man-follower – be a sincere follower of Jesus and him alone.

  • Rich

    Well, here is what I wish for all rappers, male or female, white or black that use fifth in their songs? (if you want to call rap music, music); habitual abusers of drugs; rapist; child molesters; and every person associated with the anti-American, anti-Christian Obama Administration burn in hell

    • Nestor Nagel

      Fifth? Augmented or diminished? If it’s diminished, I agree. It’s the Devil’s own music.

  • redbird

    maybe they were all babtists and their reward just won’t be as big .

    • MyronJPoltroonian

      “Babtists”? “Holy Molar! Bruce Wayne’s sidekick’s sunk his eye teeth into this one!” Better tell the Baptists to look out.

  • NoRINO

    Philip Hoffman found that out, no doubt.

    • listentome

      you don’t know that -

  • Kevin Crowley

    Doug, wow, you’re so right on.

  • ceecee

    Live what you are here and you will die what you are here. There is no salvation after your last breath for those who do not believe.

    • Gundog

      Brilliant, Cupcake! And you have personal knowledge about this? You have to
      be so much smarter than millions of Christians and Christ himself. Thank you for
      setting everyone straight. LMAO

      • ceecee

        Scripture declares this…you live one life, you die and then the judgement. It doesn’t matter what I think dear sir.

  • RB

    I believe Obama signed a Presidential Decree stating that only Republicans will go to Hell, leaving Eric Holder to enforce it.

    • HappyDog1

      BHO, EH, and all reckless mockers of God are followers of Satan whether they realize it or not; yes even the neo-con, left-leaning Christians, because they follow the created and not the Creator.

      • RB

        Chill out ,Happy dog, don’t drive that stake in my heart?

  • al ferrari

    Wanna bet ceecee…I was a coma patient unlike Stonewall Jackson, who crossed the river (his last words) I stood on this side of the river. Say what you want now, but some day soon you will be in for a rude awakening.

  • truth in righteousness

    You bet Hell is a real place, and many will discover that one day. But also remember that we can not know who goes there or who doesn’t – that is God’s business. WE should concern ourselves with out own eternity and share the gospel with all who will listen. Those that are bound for Hell, we should pray for. And especially pray for those preachers of all faiths that do not preach about Hell. All are not saved and all will not be saved. Some were created for destruction and some have denied the Cross. All will perish – where will you be? Careful……………………

    • Nestor Nagel

      “Some were created for destruction”

      Sounds like predestination – a dangerous doctrine. Please preach it elsewhere.

  • Brian P.

    I love your raw honesty.

  • John Hasse

    YHVH’s covenant is clear. Obey and live or disobey and die (the second death in hell) You are very correct that ‘Heaven’ (actually the earth made new) will NOT be a crowded place…. and that ‘Hell’ (actually, the lake of fire where the wicked are destroyed) will be quite crowded for a bit.

  • Reelman1946

    On the surface, Fidel and Hitler should “burn 4ver” with millions of others…
    on the surface of most all “human thinking”…

    The best ever religious – spiritual quote:
    “An understandable God is no God at all”….

    think on that…
    think of us as merely clever ants…
    think of why the “chosen people” jews killed instead of accepted Jesus…
    think of life as a mystery…like algebra to a dog…
    yet many think they know the mind of God…

    (BTW, I go to Church every weekend as I have for over 60 years)

    • futurelife

      You go to church every week end? Guess you have never open His Book, the Bible. LOL God is judge, must face judgment, either with Christ beside you or without Him beside you. That is, Christ is going to talk for you or your on your own. Luke 16:19-31.. there is no hell at this time but there is a “gulf” to separate the believers and the non-believers. Then 1000 years then “hell”, which those will be erased forever from the rest of us.

    • Memphis Viking

      We are incapable of fully understanding God, but we can understand what God gave us to understand by writing it in His Bible.

      • willhen50

        What Bible are you referring to? King James, New King James, Koran, Torah, PTL with removable commandments etc????

  • charlie

    sad sad– look at these people talking about hell as if it is the lake of fire, into which ,hell, satan and all unGodly will be cast after the judgement. A good example of the teachings of hirelings and not scripture truths.

    Rev 20:10-15 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
    11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

    • Ralph

      The second death is the judgment unto eternal condemnation for the non believer. You must be born again (from above through faith in Jesus) to enter the kingdom of heaven. All others will endure that which was not intended originally for humans, hell… “where the fire is never quenched and the worm never dies”. Isaiah 66: 24 Before that and while we are yet in this world awaiting the next, the Scriptures speak of vultures circling the dead. How about this… the media in a fawning and feeding freenzy over the ‘fallen’ dead as though the end of the world has come… Sadly, as stated above, the end has come for some from whence there is no return… or opportunity for salvation. Good talent does not afford eternal rewards of the heavenly type…

      • charlie

        this is not talking about hell, it is the lake of fire–big difference

        • Ralph

          Yes, hell properly understood is the place where (originally designed for Satan and the fallen angels) the spirits who disobeyed long ago are held unto the day of judgment and then, when judgment is pronounce, hell and those in it will be tossed into the lake of fire. Both, hell and the condemned (because they refused Jesus as Savior) will be there. It will be eternally painful as described Isa. 66:24

    • Gail

      As a Believer in our Lord God. My discription of Hell, after we die, would be the Eternal Separation from God and our souls will know if we are accepted or rejected by our Lord God!

      • HappyDog1

        Yes, much more than that.

    • willythegeek

      What you are saying (Rev 20:10-15) hasn’t happened yet. Revelation 1:19 puts the book into 3 parts, what he has seen, what is, and what will be (the vision). Chapters 4 thru most of 22 are things that will happen in the future. He that hath an ear, let him hear (understand).
      I highly recommend a good up to date translation like the CEPHER or the HEBRAIC ROOTS Bible and read carefully. Don’t let someone else choose your path. Dr. Chuch Missler’s expositional commentary on Revelation is also a good study. If there is no Hell, there wouldn’t be a need for YAHWEH or YAHSHUA or A bible.

      • charlie

        of course it has not but I never said it did. Did you even read what I wrote? Hell and the lake of fire are two totally different things, if you understand scripture. No one was talking about now all were referencing after death. Hell is but a holding place,after the judgement then as the above scripture shows all the evil ones go into the LAKE OF FIRE along with HELL.

  • sisgp

    Maybe Actors need to be on a drug screening program like us transport workers.

  • willythegeek

    First off.
    Judgment day hasn’t happened yet. The population of Hell may not include humans yet.
    Second.
    Revelation 1:19 puts the book into 3 parts, what he has seen, what is, and what will be. Chapters 4 thru most of 22 are things that will happen in the future. He that hath an ear, let him hear (understand).

  • Chet

    The Devil is extremely adept at confusing the masses into believing all die and go to Heaven regardless of the Holy Bible’s “Wages of Sin”. He knows most people will not dismiss the very existence of God so his efforts focus on an imaginary being who is likened to one sitting in an old wooden rocker on a Southern style front porch who just idly rocks day in and day out while occassionally peering over the side to look at us Sinners. All the while he gives us an approving wink and a nod. Thus, all is well.

    There are two standout reasons why the Devil is able to pull this off: (1) Preachers, by and large, are running scared of political correctness and stopped calling SIN SIN. They prefer to take the nice and easy approach at teaching elementaries of the Holy Bible. Many indeed favor focusing on being all one can be along with gaining much in terms of personal wealth as an entitled child of God. Evangelizing the lost has pretty much been relegated to history with tent meetings and stadiums in the rearview mirror. (2) For some time but especially in the last five years the government has become Satan’s newest ally in the damning of men’s etrnal souls. They promote sexual promiscuity, i.e., fornication, adultery and homosexuality as the swinging alternative. And when taxpayer subsidized rubbers and birth control pills fail, abortion is readily available through the smoke and mirrored guise of taxpayer subsidized PP. Then, there’s promotion of vulgar and female degrading rap music and bed hopping TV aimed at teens and twenty somethings. Again, no penalties associated.

    Therefore, in addition to all dogs going to Heaven, so too do men and women regardless of whether or not they ever repented of personal Sin and turned to the lovingly outstretched arms of the Christ of Calvary. It is He, alone, who is able to forgive and save their eternal souls and provide for their entrance into the streets of Glory called Heaven…

  • http://www.il-ccw.com/ Paladin

    I don’t watch movies or TV or listen to music starring people that I know are habitual drug users, spouse abusers; folks that had it all then died stupidly of a drug overdose. In other words, I basically don’t watch TV or listen to music all that much.

    Belushi, Candy, Presley, Farley, Jackson the list goes on and on… idiots all.

    • Nestor Nagel

      …not to mention Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, da Vinci, Picasso, DeQuincy, Coleridge, Baudelaire, Faulkner, and a lot of others I could name.

  • mrsbarb

    Tragic!!
    If truth be told, and it must! Mainstream Churchianity is to blame. Believers should be the salt of the earth, the light of the world. In the last century we have become mere observers and even participants with the lawbreakers. Most pastors when officiating a funeral for some unknown, maybe the uncle, mother, friend of a parish member will utter the same words. How does he know? Where was their fruit? I find the idiots of the world making ignorant statements less guilty than the clergy who make similar outrageous statements. Hell is real!!
    yes

    • Croco Dile

      All horrific fantasies invented by devilish priests to conquer soft heads of naive human beings.
      Are you terrorizing your kids with this ?
      Free yourself off this terror !

      • Chet

        The one and only remedy is repentance towards God and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Once Christ is received into one’s heart, Hell need no longer be feared, It’s the place for Christ rejector’s, for play actors, for pretenders, for people who said they were Christians and knew they weren’t saved.
        However, it was not created for men but for the Devil and his angels.. Yet, most men will go there due to willingly rejecting the Truth – Jesus Saves! No church, no religion and no synagogue, only the Holy One of Israel…

        • Croco Dile

          Chet, you really have a lot of fantasy !

      • mrsbarb

        which priest, please?
        Clarify

        • Croco Dile

          The original Greek/Jewish/Roman priests who invented Jesus and created the legend we don’t know the names. They were working for Herods and the Alexanders, ultimately for Rome.

          Those later priests, who continued the “development” of the Gospels, you can find in the Catholic Encyclopedia.

          I can recomend you good researched books :

          IS IT GOD’S WORD ?

          AN EXPOSITION OF THE FABLES AND MYTHOLOGY OF THE BIBLE AND OF THE IMPOSTURES OF THEOLOGY

          by Joseph Wheless – New York 1926

          and

          FORGERY IN CHRISTIANITY

          A Documented Record of the Foundations of the Christian Religion

          by Joseph Wheless 1930

    • Gail

      Just because someone claims to be a minister of faith, does not mean they are! Their are many in wolfe’s clothing standing on pulpits preaching who are the Devil’s Minions!

  • willhen50

    The mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are

    leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let’s look at the different Religions that exist in the world today. Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle’s Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added. This gives two possibilities:

    1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter
    Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell
    breaks loose.
    2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in
    Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.

    If Hell has frozen over, it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore,
    extinct…leaving only Heaven

    An Engineer’s Definition of Hell – anonymous

    • willythegeek

      As an engineer I appreciate your humor, LOL. Laughter is the best medicine.

    • Croco Dile

      An Engineer should know this does not exist and was invented to scare gullible people :-)

      • Jane18

        I knew it was too good to be true…Croco showed up!

        • Croco Dile

          I’m sorry to crash your fantasies, Jane !

          Now you are 18, but some day you may understand.
          Young heads are usually not ripe for fundamental knowledge.

    • Chet

      They learned more and more about less and less till they learned everything there was about nothing…

  • Arizona_Don

    Perhaps obama is not the most liberal president (although I tend to think he is) however he certainly has the most desire to overthrow our Constitutional Republic since FDR. Several of the past presidents were not very good for instance Wilson, FDR, Johnson and Carter however none have been even a small fraction of as divisive as is he. I think we can all agree he is divisive, so should we not be asking ourselves why is that, what could be his purpose? Can we also be honest about what he does. Even the liberal progressive communistic democrats should be able to tell a lie from the truth if not we are in more trouble then I had first imagined. We have all seen his speech declaring we were five days from fundamentally transforming the United States of America and yet he claims he didn’t say that. Everyone seems to proclaim him very intelligent. If that is fact how can he then look us in the face and outright lie when we can prove without a doubt he said it. Everything being relevant is he intelligent because he considers us ignorant? Seems to be the only plausible answer.

    However, my final question here is why should anyone wish or need to watch a speech given by a liar? What is the purpose beyond seeing what his lie of the day is?

    • Nestor Nagel

      Wait… Does this have something to to with whether rockstars should be said to be at peace when they die? I think your automatic comment writer/poster software is on the whack.

  • usmc1063

    All that is a point of comfort. Poor Joe now he’s at his rest God called him home. Even though Joe committed every sin in the book and a few others. For some reason people think that at the very last possible second of their life they can repent and suddenly go to heaven. I don’t know about anyone else but I’m not going to take that chance.

    • Dave Phelps

      Amen to that, If and only if a person repents and accepts Jesus’ death on the cross, and is born again will he/she enter into the presence of a Holy God. It matters not when, but if he/she does it, but if they die without confessing that Jesus is Lord before their last breath they will go to hell, however at the White Throne Judgment every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord, but it will be too late, and they will know their loss as they are casted into hell, knowing their loss, so if they do not confess Him Lord befroe their last breath, there is no hope for them, best to do so before the last breath. John 3:16-17

    • Tom K.

      @ usmc 1063: Joseph Stalin lay on his death bed for several days and had time to repent and accept Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior, but chose not to do so. Moments before he died, he looked upward toward heaven, sat up in bed and as he looked up, he raised his fist and angrily shook it, collapsed and died – defiant to the end. I’m just guessing he is in hell. God WOULD HAVE forgiven him for his many sins had Stalin asked. God gave all of us free will. The rest is up to us.

    • CherryAnn1000

      What about the thief on the cross? He repented at the last moment, was NOT baptized (this has nothing to do with salvation), and Jesus told him he would be with Him in paradise.

      • usmc1063

        You are correct one thief found his faith, yet the other thief mocked Christ at his hour. It showed two sides of the coin so to speak. God is willing to forgive the truly repentant there was nor will there ever be any doubt to that. Yet for those whom mock or challenge God may not have time to ask for his forgiveness. Their hour may come in a flash and since no-one can say how their time will come, isn’t it wiser to truly be repentant before? Now I cannot say what state of grace anyone will be in when there time comes, even the righteous have their moments. I just hope that I’m prepared.

  • Preacher

    Jude 1:22, “And some having compassion making a difference.” Where is the compassion for these souls hat are dying and going to hell. Then after the Great White Throne Judgment death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. Hell is a place where people find themselves before the Great White Throne Judgment. Luke 16 reveals the rich man in HELL! Once Christ died and shed His blood the place called Paradise was no more and Christ led the saints there into heaven. Hell then expanded into where the place called Paradise was. No need for Paradise for Jesus Christ arose. Men now enter into the Kingdom of God, heaven. But what I noticed in all these comments is lack of compassion for the souls Jesus Christ died for. If Jesus can have compassin on the most wicked of hem what abot us? Saul was a murderer of Christias and yet God had grace and mercy on Saul and change his name to Paul. Wat is the worlds problem with Christianity? Lack of love. If we don’t love the truth is not in us, John tells us.

    • Old Patriot

      Where is the compassion, eh? I’ll tell you where the compassion is: It’s in the hearts of those who truly pray for others, who try to live their lives according to God’s will. There’s that little word “repent” that keeps getting mentioned in the Bible — turning away from wickedness. All the compassion, all the good works, all the blathering in the universe by OTHERS won’t change anything if the SINNER doesn’t repent. People aren’t FORCED into Hell — they choose it. That’s THEIR choice. It’s not like there aren’t millions of us who actively pray for those who do not believe to open their hearts to God. It’s not like the Word of God is denied them. It’s that Society itself is filled with wickedness that calls some people, and they turn away from God and what is best for them in the long run for immediate gratification and self-satisfaction. Sorry — God has said, the wages of sin is death. God, through His Son Jesus has offered forgiveness, but it has to be ACCEPTED. If a person doesn’t accept God’s forgiveness, the responsibility lies with THEM, and no one else. Of course, mentioning personal responsibility is now a social no-no, which is what got us all into this mess in the first place.

      • Jane18

        Very good Old Patriot! Repenting, asking forgiveness for all sins, doing a 180 degree turnaround with your life, talking(praying) to the Father, and loving HIM and HIS word, that’s what it takes! (asking forgiveness everyday, because we all think, say, or do something we shouldn’t, even if we don’t realize it)

    • taliesin319

      There are such things as The Corporal Works of Mercy, and The Spiritual Works of Mercy. Among them we are exhorted for love of God and of our neighbor to among other things, Instruct the ignorant, and in charity to admonish the sinner. That does not mean to speak harshly to sinners, it means to beg sinners to refrain from behaviors that threaten body or soul, so that they may benefit from the goodness of God. These are considered good works among all Christian Religious groups. Even Priests, Ministers and Rabbis now act as if they have no right and indeed duty to discuss such things with their Congregations.

  • jb80538

    I’ll bet yes on this. But I will not be one going there to report on it!

  • Al

    I see the problem as being no fear of God in God fearing Christians. Look the majority of priests and ministers now tell their congregations that all that is needed for salvation is to proclaim the Lord as your savior. I know many who profess this, but cheat on their spouses, abuse their bodies and others. Steal, lie and commit other sins. Giles has it nailed because we tend to forget what God did to Sodom and Gomorrah, casting Adam and Eve from the garden of Eden, sent the great flood, and gave us the Chicago Cubs.
    Also the secularists who have taken over the public education system in this country and world. I know one teacher in rural Minnesota who is a practicing Wiccan. She does not allow Christmas celebration in her classroom. We as a nation have caused this by allowing teachers so much power over our children
    So parents take back your children and put them into private schools or home school them. Quit allowing them so much unchecked viewing of morons of entertainment. I have seen both the public school system and now a private school. I know one family that does not have a TV in their home. They subscribe to news services on the net, and not the weird ones either. Their kids are now in very good colleges on full scholarships.

  • Nestor Nagel

    What, is that it? That’s an article? You’re not telling me you get paid for writing stuff like that! At least you’re not preaching hate like you usually do. Now _that’s_ a sin that’ll land you in Hell!

  • sovereigntyofone

    Some say that your ” Heaven or Hell ” is right here on earth.
    If this is true, I wonder what unforgivable sin I committed in a past life to deserve this Hell ruled by Obama.
    Just my 2 cents worth.

    • Jane18

      I know where you are coming from, and it’s understandable(and a good laugh too!). No, this isn’t hell, but one day this will be Heaven, all made over as GOD had it one time(age) before…

  • FLChristyB

    The people you are talking about lived lives not believing in God, so it stands to reason that those they left behind have no clue either. They tell themselves whatever will help them sleep at night, what ever makes them feel better. They have no idea what is in store, for the departed, or for themselves, because they were never taught, and are not around others who might clue them in.

    • Ann Wilson

      Yes, that is why we are to go forth and preach the good news of Salvation through Jesus Christ. It is then up to them to accept this precious free gift or not. Don’t push it on them. We are to tell them and let the Holy Spirit do it’s work.

  • Chris P

    No – because there isn’t one and cannot be one. Your brain dies and its contents are lost – clearly demonstrated in slow motion by Alzheimer’s sufferers. Not able to recognize their own relatives let alone a mythical Satan or St Peter. Doug needs some biology lessons.

    • Linda

      Chris, then ESHAD

      • Chris P

        Is that as silly as NOTW – some religious abbreviation?

        • MyronJPoltroonian

          Try my favorite: “WWMD?” (What Would Mohammad Do?” (Notice the “W[W]MD” in there?) Don’t start any fights over religion now – or “You Can’t Handle The Truth” will become a way of life (and death).

    • Tom K.

      @ Chris P: Don’t bet that there isn’t an eternal hell – what if you are wrong ? Eternity lasts LONGER than time itself. Jesus Christ conquered sin, death and the grave. Give Him your life and trust in Him.

      • Chris P

        I don’t bet. I work on facts. Who would ever want to spend an “eternity” anywhere?

        • Jane18

          I don’t care where Heaven will be(but it will be here on Earth), just like it started out, but the main thing IS WHO I will be spending it with!! Since you “work on facts”, Chris, it seems you would want to check out the Bible. Also, check out Chinese history about the time of Noah’s flood(approx. 5,000 to 6,000 years ago)…

          • Chris P

            There was no Noah’s flood – the whole thing would be impossible and no mechanism for how it would have worked has been given. How can you “spend time” with someone when you have no brain left containing any memories.

          • Memphis Viking

            There was a Flood. The whole thing is possible, and several theories as to how it happened have been postulated.

          • Chris P

            None that have any grounding in facts. I’ve looked at them and they don’t say how the water got here or where it went. Total fiction. Unsupported by any feature on the planet.

          • Memphis Viking

            How the water got here? It was created here. Where it went? It’s still here. You are simply dismissing it because you don’t want to believe it.

          • Chris P

            No – I’m dismissing it because I am a fluid dynamics expert and the whole scenario cannot work and there is zero evidence of it.

          • willythegeek

            Ah, the problem, a fluid dynamics expert says it can’t work because he doesn’t believe the evidence in the bible which is more than zero evidence. Also, not in all bibles, Jubilees 5:23 and following gives a detailed explanation of your fluid dynamics (7 floodgates of heaven and 7 fountains of the great deep both emptying and refilling after). Interesting read, none the less, even if you don’t believe it.

          • Chris P

            There is no science in the Bible.

          • willythegeek

            You are right, just truth.

          • Croco Dile

            There is just nonsense and fantasy !

          • Dave the Retired Marine MSgt

            Hey, Crispy Critter…….
            Why didn’t you ask him how Noah imported all of those marsupials from Australia? Or, how did he get them back? Not to mention those pesky Polar Bears from the Arctic, and the Grizzlies from North America; those Jaguars from South America?
            Since water seeks the lowest level, you might have asked where all of that water, the millions of cubic miles of water, which covered all of the land masses and existing seas equally, receded to? Why didn’t all of those inconvenient salt water fishes die when they were overdosed with fresh water? But then, I’m sure that the “believers” will rationalize something miraculous that they can believe in.
            What’s really miraculous is that I didn’t call you anything derogatory, well, except for the “Crispy Critter” thing.
            Peace?

        • Memphis Viking

          You work on facts, but believe that Alzheimer’s has any relation to anything that happens after death.

          • Chris P

            There is nothing after death and with no memory or brain left – exactly how would an afterlife work?

          • Alleged Comment

            You seem to be familiar with it right now. Yet you have no clue?

          • Chris P

            Having had a general anesthetic I can tell you that iit would be just like that except that you don’t wake up. How would it work otherwise since you appear to be so knowledgeable about the subject?

          • Alleged Comment

            Because anesthesia is quite different than dying. I see you are alive yet you claim to be an expert on death!

          • Chris P

            Please enlighten us because from what I have read it is not well understood and very little separates it from “dying”. What is different?

          • Alleged Comment

            Easy! Death!

          • Chris P

            Thanks for playiing

          • Dave the Retired Marine MSgt

            So sayeth Crispy Critter the ☭ommie.

          • Chris P

            Aren’t you a bit old to have your mouth washed out with soap or are you regressing to being a teenager again.

          • MyronJPoltroonian

            Are you writing this from the recovery room? Remarkable.

          • Chris P

            When are you going to recover from your religion?

          • MyronJPoltroonian

            “My Religion”? Well, I suppose, since it’s not exactly yer ordinary, ” … Garden of Good and Evil” approach to religion, one could consider it, “My Religion.” I’ll post my question: “What Is God?” now, 06:30 P.M. PST, in the “Join The Discussion” box. As they say Down South: “See Ya!”

          • Memphis Viking

            Why do you think the physical brain has any bearing on the eternal spirit?

          • Chris P

            It doesn’t, because there is no such thing as eternal spirit. Nobody has defined the abilities or functions of this fictional thing.

          • Memphis Viking

            Since you have never died and ceased to exist, there is no way you could know if there is or isn’t an eternal spirit, therefore you don’t work on facts, you just reject that which you don’t want to believe.

          • Chris P

            Please tell me what facts support this “spirit” and what are its supposed functions. There are none that can mean anything. Your brain contains all the useful information about your life.

      • charlie

        well only if you believe scripture can you say Hell is not eternal as scripture clearly says hell is also thrown into the lake of fire. So sad, most who profess to be CHristians do not understand the difference between hell and the lake of fire. They are not the same and the difference is as night and day. Looks like a lot f people nedd to learn to undersatnd the scriptures esp those who call themselves “pastor”

  • Doc Holliday

    Hey, I just told someone to go there only yesterday.

  • AR154U

    Nihilism is the belief that all values are baseless and that nothing can be known or communicated. It is often associated with extreme pessimism and a radical skepticism that condemns existence. A true nihilist would believe in nothing, have no loyalties, and no purpose other than, perhaps, an impulse to destroy. While few philosophers would claim to be nihilists, nihilism is most often associated with Friedrich Nietzsche who argued that its corrosive effects would eventually destroy all moral, religious, and metaphysical convictions and precipitate the greatest crisis in human history.

  • Tom K.

    Joseph Stalin lay on his death bed for several days and had time to repent and accept Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior, but chose not to do so. Moments before he died, he looked upward toward heaven, sat up in bed and as he looked up, he raised his fist and angrily shook it, collapsed and died – defiant to the end. I’m just guessing he is in hell. God WOULD HAVE forgiven him for his many sins had Stalin asked. God gave all of us free will. The rest is up to us.

  • Ann Wilson

    49 This is how it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous 50 and throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Matthew 13:49-50

  • AR154U

    THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HEAVEN AND HELL ~ by George Carlin
    In HEAVEN . . .
    The Italians are the lovers,
    The French cook the food,
    The Swiss run the hotels,
    The Germans are the mechanics,
    And the English are the police.
    In HELL . . .
    The Swiss are the lovers,
    The English cook the food,
    The French run the hotels,
    The Italians are the mechanics,
    And the Germans are the police!
    …. I love this one!! I miss old mean spirited George, he had something to anger ALL and make ALL laugh !!

    • MyronJPoltroonian

      “Thank you. Thank you very much.” -Elvis Presley

  • RockyMtn1776

    Of course they are still going to Hell, they just do not come back to tell us.

  • EL

    One can’t prove there isn’t a hell just as they can’t prove there is. One would think that anyone with a brain, wouldn’t take a chance, though. Live a good life just in case there is. I, for one, wouldn’t want to live an eternity in hell. The brainless take the chance. The brainless also conclude there is no hell without having any way to prove they are right.

    • Chet

      It’s receiving Christ that matters. Only he can forgive Sin and cleanse every Sinner whiter than snow via his precious cleansing blood. He’s already paid the price for the Sins of every man, but man must come to him on his own free will.

  • Ann Wilson

    19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. Galatians 5:19-20

  • thirdarmy

    I am sure that one of my past bosses is going to hell. That’s one motivating factor for me to live as straight as I can. I don’t want to see her again.

    • Jane18

      thirdarmy, the scripture of “judge not, lest ye be judged” was written for comments like yours. Please tell us you were kidding…

      • thirdarmy

        No, I am not kidding. And you haven’t had the pleasure of meeting this person yet so don’t judge me.

        • Jane18

          Please excuse me for caring about you thirdarmy…

      • thirdarmy

        And I don’t want to spend eternity with folks like Hitler, Stalin or Richard Speck. Sorry, I guess I can’t judge those guys according to you.

  • Don Sr.

    Here are the facts according to our Bible. There IS a Heaven and there IS a hell. No one who has ever been born or will ever be born that has the power to escape one or the other. God gives us insight into the lives of others through disernment, Some people have NO diserning ability. This is because they reject God. How can you look at someone like Billy Graham and then look at a drug crazed rock star and see any similarities. Life is not so difficult. Who would you want around your children at their dying moment…Billy Graham or the drug indiced rock star? I rest my case.

    • CherryAnn1000

      Billy is no better than the druggie; the only difference is that Billy made a conscience choice to follow God. If the druggie does the same, he, too, will be saved.

  • Mark Robn

    @ Nestor Nagel — If what I said merited payment based on the number of words I typed, my words would have little value. If what I said merited genuine consideration from the wise because my words were based upon sincerity and the real state of affairs, those words would carry truth.

  • Claudia

    Time to reintroduce Keith Green’s “They Don’t Believe In Me Anymore.”

  • homer1057

    “The Party in “HELL” is cancelled due to the “Fire”! We all have a choice to go to heaven or hell: but in the end, it is your choice, NOT Jesus Christs choice! He made hell, and he made it for the devil and his angels and not for any man/woman! So, “IF” YOU go there you do so on your own choice! A “WAY” has alraedy been made for you to get out of Hell, put you have to take that way or…you die in your sin(s)! 1 Peter 3:18 KJV

  • fred

    when we die we are dead no heaven. doesnt the bible say we sleep in the grave and know nothing? these sinners will get a second chance to repent in the second resurection 1000 years after Jesus returns. then if they dont they will burn up in the eternal fire and be gone forever.

    • FRED1953

      No, it says absent from the body, present with the Lord in spirit form. Later we will get a new spiritual/glorified body similar to Christ’s resurrected body and the glorified bodies of Elijah and Moses on the Mount of Transfiguration.

      • Jane18

        But that is not the end of it, Fred. That was a real situation and a lesson for us to know what happens to us when we pass away in the flesh. Actually, we don’t know where the rich man is now, remember that Jesus went back and taught and ministered to them on the wrong side of the gulf–after He was put in the tomb from His crucifixion. All souls belong to GOD, and when we are absent from the body(die fleshly)we are present with the LORD, soul and spirit.

    • Jane18

      Sure there is a Heaven, Fred. There are two sides there with a gulf(abyss) between them. You need to read Luke 16:19-31. “Sleep in the grave” means dead in the bad side of the gulf. There are “sinners” as you call them, that will hear the truth just like you said, after Jesus’ return, some of them never heard the truth, so it isn’t a second chance, it’s their first time to hear it. Your last sentence is correct.

      • charlie

        actually you described Hell

  • EnemyoftheState

    People wake up:

    Revelation 22

    14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.

    Now read this – probably one of the most famous sermons ever preached and ask yourself if the Joel Osteens of this world are preaching the True Gospel or a false one – SINNERS IN THE HANDS OF AN ANGRY GOD – that won’t show up on TBN.

    http://www.ccel.org/ccel/edwards/sermons.sinners.html

  • disqus_44JbsFzgKV

    Do not follow in their foot steps, only God knows who is and who is not. Only God knows the heart of a man. This is the true measure of “judge not lest ye be judged”. In life we judge people according to their works and this is as it should be, but in death, only God can judge. Leave this alone.

  • James Maxwell

    Considering how many have died from drugs, alcohol and other foreign chemicals
    they ingested plus other violent acts I strongly suspect they have already been
    to hell. That goes for a lot of people on earth. Their very lifestyle to me is
    pure unadulterated hell on earth. We have all, at one time or another, made
    mistakes in our lives and paid for it. If we were fortunate enough we survived
    and changed direction to get back on the right track and live a long productive
    life.

    • Iorgos

      Your first comments sound a little PC too actually. I think the Hell described in the Bible is much worse. The second part…I’m with you.

  • Mike_Travis

    Our government is doing far worse damage to our nation by virtue of 50 years of planning to surrender our sovereignty to the UN. Here is the proof:

    http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/arms/freedom_war.html

    Since JFK began this program, every administration and congress, except Reagan, has worked to implement this plan which will ban the manufacture of ALL weapons, as well as the possession of all weapons, putting us all under control of the UN “police” which requires the destruction of our Constitution for them to pull this off.

    If we do not arrest the traitors in the WH, the administration, and congress, including those in BOTH parties for they have ALL been a party to this plan, America is finished. But don’t take my word for it. Read the document yourself then research it more. I guarantee you it will astound you at the depth of treason our own government has sunk.

    • disqus_Ed8LYkU7q2

      The USA GOVERNMENT has murdered Reagan, John F. Kennedy and Robert Kennedy. That was the start of action by the Bankers of the World Government Regimes taking over America. One change of Law was the creation of the Federal Bank Reserve.

    • sandraleesmith46

      It began long before JFK; in fact, it was integrated into our nation from its very inception, by those who financed the colonists to come here originally; and integrated into our Constitution and government from the beginnings; the history we learned in schools has been a fabricated fairy tale essentially. This program was started in 1540!

  • CherryAnn1000

    The ones who go to hell are all those who refuse to acknowledge Jesus Christ as Saviour and Lord. I think people are going to be real surprised at how many don’t make heaven after all. Being good just doesn’t do it. And Christianity is ill served by so-called “Christian” pastors in mega churches telling us all not to worry–no one goes to hell in the end. I suspect they will be leading the parade.

    • Jane18

      Don’t you know most of these people have not read that judgment will begin with them?1Peter 4:17

      • charlie

        amen or think they are above it and it does not apply such as them

  • disqus_Ed8LYkU7q2

    As soon as I saw Hoffman on TV talking about how much he respected acting, after he got the award, I thought, “Now they are going to kill him.” And now he’s dead. The “drug” was probably too strong or had something added to it or someone else forced it into him. Of course The Domestic Terrorists, with their connections to drugs might have offed him too from their usual jealousies.

  • ramesaz

    The sad part of all this is after these celebrities live a life of sin and corruption, then die from use of illegal substances, we, as a society tend to eulogize them and make saints of them. Just because they have the ability to “pretend” (called acting) we think of them as hero’s or something else. In reality, most of them have never produced a thing of value or contributed in anyway to the betterment of society. Sad situation.

    • Jane18

      Did you know that a “hypocrite” is a “play actor”? They claim to be a Christian, but are of the world, and say and do worldly things.

      • Ralph

        So, actors are hypocrites? True! Do most of them live up to the standards they want everybody else to follow? No! And most do not claim to be Christian. Christians who claim Jesus do so knowing (hopefully) that they are sinners in need of salvation through faith in Christ alone. There is nothing hypocritical about that or for a Christian to state what God desires for all people: to repent of your sin and turn to God for forgiveness because of Jesus. The Church is a hospital for sinners…. so there is nothing hypocritical about a confessing Christian…

  • Christopher Federico

    It’s funny when you think about it how many Christian in name only churches there are out there who claim that you will be forgiven with a quick deathbed proclaimation of faith or just believe that you’ll be saved and it will happen.

    Guess what, live a life of sin and earn that fate… Point blank… No amount of faith can compensate.

    • anoesis

      JESUS said “If you love ME you will keep MY commandments”. You cannot say “JESUS I love you. Save me” and then live like a heathen. FAITH is the only thing we have to keep us looking for ‘that blessed hope’ that is the Rapture. Without Faith we cannot see the Kingdom of GOD. If that deathbed proclamation is sincere it is just as good as being a saved Christian for 50 years. The problem with it is you never know when you’re going to die and you might not have the time to make that decision. No one Knows whether anyone is truly saved but the HOLY SPIRIT. HEAVEN is going to many people in it that we didn’t think were going to be there.

      • charlie

        there is no rapture the blessed hope is the return of Christ for His church

        • sandraleesmith46

          There is a rapture; it’s described as the snatching away or catching up; but that’s what is being referred to by that term “rapture”.

          • Croco Dile

            Sandra, again you come up with this nonsense !
            This fantasy of yours will never materialize….

          • Jane18

            Do you know what the word rapture means? It is when the blood to your brain is not working correctly…you have no sense at all when affected by this… If you think anyone is going to be “snatched away” you are wrong. When Jesus comes back at His 2nd Advent, He is coming with a “cloud” of saints, an army of them, and He will “choose” those of us that have waited for Him. The “air” you think is atmosphere, is breath of life in our SPIRITUAL BODIES. Changed just like that! You need to go on over to 2Thess.2:1-12 and read what Paul wrote to the Thessalonians about them not understanding about the Coming Of Jesus…and who would come first pretending to be The Christ.

          • sandraleesmith46

            First of all, I have NO idea where you got that “definition” of the word rapture; I’ve never heard anything remotely like it medically or otherwise, not even “rapture of the deep” fits that precisely. Second of all, I’ve read ALL Paul had to say, what John had to say, what Isaiah and Ezekiel and Enoch had to say, and yes, even what Jesus Himself had to say, many times, and the “atmosphere” isn’t “internal” it’s the same air over which Satan is presently the prince. The breath of life can leave a body and return, but NOT bring the spirit back with it;’ I’ve seen that happen with resuscitations enough times to recognize the difference when it happens. And the words “caught up” or caught away” MEAN just that! Might want to widen your scope of understanding a mite….

          • Jane18

            Sorry to get your feathers ruffled, I can see you are truly a believer of the rapture theory(and I am sorry about that too). Right back at you about “widening your scope of understanding”. Good-bye

      • sandraleesmith46

        There may be some “surprises” but I suspect there are many more who are expecting to go there based on what they’ve been erroneously and deliberately taught, who are going to be sorely disappointed. I also suspect that those who down marked you are those who either don’t wish to believe or are stuck in the doctrine of works.

    • Ron Ursery

      Your comment is contradicted by scripture. The thief on the cross was saved when he believed. We will be judged on our decision to accept or reject the sacrifice of Christ for our sins. One sin alone is sufficient to doom one unless they have accepted the sacrifice and are covered by the blood of Jesus. Salvation is a gift. It can not be earned.

      • Jim

        Ron,

        Christopher F’s comment does not contradict scripture, but he needed to add a line to complete the statement. It would be this: live a life of sin “and die in that sin” and earn that fate.

        The thief on the cross was “justified by his faith,” but he was not “saved by his faith alone.” He defended Jesus, which is an action, he took responsibility for his sins, which is required (did you skip that part of scripture that says he is faithful to forgive when you confess your sins?), and he asked Jesus to remember him, which is an “act” of faith. He did all these things showing himself a “friend of God”.

        • charlie

          the theif on the cross was under the Old testament not the new. We live under the new which did not come into being until AFTER the death and resurrection of Christ.

          • Jim

            I did not say his “faith saved him.” Your faith saves you, according to all examples in scripture, when the act, or the “works,” which are our deeds pleasing to God, also occur–this is Biblical faith. He was Justified by faith when he said yes to Gods Grace, in his gift of love. The Bible has justification in three tenses: justified, being justified, will be justified. Faith is a gift which we must open to receive. He received an initial justification by faith, first tense; he was saved when “his works completed his faith.” He was being justified, second tense, in his obedience to God’s Grace in his actions, he was finally justified, saved, fully sanctified with God in heaven.

          • charlie

            give me scripture to back up your claim that it was his works.

          • Jim

            James 2:24 “See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.”

            You like most people, are repeating what some preachers told you, but ignoring what the Bible says. You are confusing What Paul said about being “justified by faith and not by works of law,” and our work through, with, and in Christ. “Works of law” = the Jewish 600+ old Testament works of law. We must live our lives in a pleasing way to God, and our deeds must comport with the Grace he gives us.

            Also: “those who disobey will not see life” “only those who do the will of my father in heaven will be saved.” You must bear fruit or you will be cut from the vine, you will wither and die, people will throw you in a pile and you will be burned up.”

          • sandraleesmith46

            NO sir; works are EVIDENCE of the inner change brought about by salvation through faith, NOT in any way a part of being saved ever; it was established that way so we could NOT take credit in any measure for our salvation! There’re no “tenses” either; you are or you’re NOT; that simple! As we grow in the faith and knowledge of the Lord it’s a natural reaction that we should do works pleasing to our Father in Heaven, but all the good works in the world, even martyrdom, will NOT in one whit save us, or contribute to our salvation!

          • Jim

            Sandra, The Bible from front to back is about doing the will of God in obedience, and repenting from sins.You like most people, are repeating what some preachers told you, but ignoring what the Bible says.

            The only place the bible says “justification by faith alone” is in James 2:24, where it has the words “not by” right in front of it.

          • sandraleesmith46

            Ah, another one whose reading comprehension level is iffy; so if it doesn’t say those exact words repetitively, the message is missed. No preacher ever “told” me that; I read the BIBLE and let GOD tell me via His Holy Spirit! And that is the message; it’s consistent from Genesis forward clear through Revelation. Salvation is by FAITH, through the grace of God’s free gift to us in the form of the shed blood of Jesus, that NO man may claim it was of HIS works but only that of Jesus! The works follow as a natural outworking of the changes that salvation brings about in our hearts, as the outward evidence of the inward changes but they won’t save us; and those who either haven’t the time to follow through because they die or are unable to do so for some other reason are still saved by their faith, not by works. Never take a single verse or passage of verses out of the context of the whole to formulate a doctrine on; it doesn’t work.

          • Jim

            You are putting man made doctrine over the bible when you read it. That is why you misinterpret it.

            The Old Testament, points to their sins as not pleasing to God, note, Jesus too, pointing to their sins as not pleasing to God. The answer? “Love your Lord God with all your heart mind soul and strength and love your neighbor as your self.” Why? because “love covers a multitude of sins.”

            St.Paul writes about highest the virtues: “faith, hope, and love, but the greatest among these is love.” Notice it is not faith, and it is not the right kind of faith, it is love. He delineates the virtues, not trying to operationally separate them, but it seems, to clearly make the point that if you don’t have love, you have NOTHING.

            “if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.”

            The prophets read throughout: their sacrifices were not pleasing to the lord, because they were not “pure.” This points forward, topologically, to, Jesus, pure sacrifice.

            The point throughout the old Testament is they bring their best sacrifice, in faith, and love of God. “Love your Lord your God with all your heart mind soul and strength” is Jewish! They must also bring the best animal, the one with great value to give up.

            Faith was required in the old Testament too; note Abraham’s example.

            Now look at the letters to the churches in the Book of Revelation, all the way at the other end. What is the first thing Jesus says in his letters to the Churches after describing who he is? “I know your works.” Yes, Jesus is saying he holds not doing their works in the love they had at first, but he is pointing out their works in love!

            Those works in faith hope and love are required, they are not optional, and the works complete your faith; the bible says it.

            The Lord is the perfect judge of hearts heart, but it all must be there as the bible says.

            Again, I bring up James 2:24. “See how a person is justified by his works and not by his faith alone.” Some translations say, “perfected by his works and not by his faith alone.” Which is a great way to say it. Notice, if your man made tradition, which comes originally from a man named Martin Luther, was correct, the Bible would say the opposite.

            It would say, the faith perfects the works, but you are following an errant priest who was clearly wrong…and your whole theology stems from it.

          • sandraleesmith46

            No sir; you have the order backwards; NOWHERE does it say any saint was justified by love; that it was his faith that imputed righteousness {justification} to him; LOVE is the OUTWORKING of that justification by faith as we emulate our Lord and Savior; but it NEVER comes before that faith, and you cannot achieve salvation by love, EVEN if you might, by some inexplicable chance, be capable of agape love BEFORE you became saved! Love MUST be part of the “fruit” of the saved one, and is the best of those; but it CANNOT come first or it’s false!

          • Jim

            The order? I can see you have been well indoctrinated into Calvinism.

            I assure you, Calvin was only a man, yes a man who believed he was a prophet. Do you remember Jesus said beware of false prophets?

            I never said anyone is saved by their own love alone. You need a straw man?

            If you want an order, okay, faith does not come first, but God’s love always does.

            ALWAYS! In the form of HIS GRACE.

            Gods’ Grace ALWAYS COMES FIRST.

            Rev 3:20: Behold, I stand at the door and am knocking; if any one hear my voice and open ….

            Then we respond accepting the love and indwelling Grace or we turn away.

            1 Tim. 2:3-4, “This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.”

          • sandraleesmith46

            Being deliberately obtuse and stubborn won’t change my response; you do it your way, and I’ll do it God’s way, and we’ll see who ends up where.

          • Jim

            “…deliberately obtuse?” LOL. You have got to be kidding. You have not supported one thing you have said with any Biblical support, but I have. You just assert things!

            You only speak hard man made doctrine.

            Sandra, read the Church fathers and see if you can find your theology there. Read Ignatius of Antioch, who was St. John the Apostle’s top disciple. You can Google it and read his letters.

            Read St. Augustine’s doctrine fully. You will not find your theology anywhere until a few hundred years ago!. The fact is, the apostles, the people who wrote the Bible didn’t teach it; they didn’t teach it to their immediate disciples.

            Read Ignatius of Antioch, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas, and right up the line. You won’t find it until you hit Luther, who was a rebellious crazy man!

          • sandraleesmith46

            People who “went off the rails” before the end of the first century even are better “authorities” than the Word itself? Wow; that’s a new twist. I read the Word of God, not a bunch of other men! JUST maybe if that’s what some of them saw in there as well, they were seeing truth too…. I wasn’t and won’t look for some other man’s theories on what is or isn’t what God “meant” by what He says, thanks. When something doesn’t make sense to me or doesn’t fit with the rest of the Scripture, as it reads I ASK the Holy Spirit for clarification, which He provides, usually from another portion of the Word. Now if you’re done offering what sound very like RCC “explanations” for what is or isn’t in the Word? Especially your disparagement of those Reformers with whom you obviously disagree…

          • Jim

            Look at how many points of view there were within 20 years of Martin Luther making his break! You read scripture and believe the Holy Spirit tells you the truth, but there were something like 40 different denominations within a few decades. Look into the differences too. Calvin thought one had to have a proper understanding of the Lords Supper to go to heaven, yet Luther totally disagreed with him about it, and Zwingli believed something else that was very different. All of them thought the others might well be doomed.

            Late in Luther’s life, he said, “My God what have I done. Now there are as many theologies as there are heads, and they can all go to hell together.”

            You say the Holy Spirit is talking to you but what you say is popular modern Protestant interpretations…which the “reformers” mostly would be shocked by. So when is the Holy Spirit right?

            Yes, I went back to the Catholic Church a few years ago as an adult because after much scrutiny, they have “the deposit of faith” right.

            One of many evidences is how much they are slandered. In all the Protestant sermons I have heard, when talking about the Catholic Church, they never get the theology right and they are often just a huge slander. These guys are bearing false witness from their pulpits!

            Anyway, the church fathers can tell you a lot. For example, when John wrote his Gospel, he was writing it, especially Chapter 6, to respond to Cerinthus, who was his arch enemy and a Gnostic leader. It seems John wrote so much about Jesus divinity for this reason.

            You talk about RCC “explanations,” I say you shouldn’t be afraid to understand the fullness of the faith from their point of view.

            Go to: catholic.com read or go to Radio drop down and listen live to Catholic Answers. Call in and challenge them.

            You can read what they actually say, or read the Catholic Catechism; you can get it free on line.

            I ask you not to get caught up in hate, but to understand their point of view. I understand all the things you are saying, you should not be afraid to understand from someone else’s point of view. It might make you a stronger Protestant, or you might become Catholic like so many Protestant ministers have in the last 20 years or so.

            You will find the purest Christianity and the fullness of it.

          • sandraleesmith46

            SO much is explained! Sorry, but that doesn’t fly with me; I grew up surrounded by RCC and its doctrines and practices; as an unchurched KID, it was painfully clear that something was VERY WRONG with that system; and when I grew up and began studying various religious systems, besides Christianity, I began to understand what I’d known as a child, for all I couldn’t articulate what it was or why I knew it. Now I can; and the RCC is NOT a repository of the pure faith, unless it would be the “pure religion of Lucifer” some segments of that institution are eager to bring forth to the world. However, suffice it to say, Christianity doesn’t incorporate elements of paganism and call it the Way Jesus taught; the RCC does. As for what I believe that “resembles” the teachings of reformers, just maybe it’s because they and I see the same things IN the Scriptures that your teaching has obfuscated and distorted or denied outright for centuries, independently of their teaching me. BTW, it’s the RCC that is responsible for the myriad denominations, because the hierarchy refused to “fix” the things they pointed out as broken and excommunicated them, forcing them to move on to worship elsewhere; that is, the ones they didn’t simply murder.

          • Jim

            “Religious system?” Why would you use typical Calvinist jargon and give pure Calvinist doctrine if you didn’t get your theology from it. So you where surrounded by sinful family members growing up and that proves something?

            The truth is, in your “system” you ignore what the Bible says:

            Baptism: Mark 16:16 “Whoever believes and is Baptized will be saved…” 1 Pet 3:21 “This prefigured Baptism, which saves you now.”

            Confession: James 5:16. “Therefore, confess your sins to one another…” John 20:23 “Who’s sins you forgive are forgiven them, who’s sins you retain are retained.” Mat 18:18 “…whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in Heaven, whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

            Communion: John 6:53 “…unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.”

            Confirmation: Confirming as an adult your baptismal vows. See above.

            Marrage: Mat 19 “…have you not heard from the beginning the Creator made them male and female…”

            Holy Orders (is in several places but just one): 1 Tim 4:14 “…conferred on you through the prophetic word and the imposition (laying on of) of hands…”

          • patriciamlewis

            The person who said he believed, however, and went away and sinned over and over again afterward is not destined for a happy future!

          • sandraleesmith46

            The message of the Bible didn’t change from one testament to the other; it’s the SAME message all the way through. Salvation by faith through grace. The rest is kind of window dressing. But in both testaments, reverting to sin, and/or persisting in it will NOT get you saved, no matter what you profess and the sins didn’t change either.

        • jeffnkr

          Salvation is by grace alone through faith alone in Christ, alone. The dying thief’s defense of Christ was as the result of his faith in Christ. It was not a necessary work he had to do in order to be saved.

          • Jim

            “Salvation is by grace alone through faith alone in Christ, alone. ” This is 100% the traditions of men. These words do not appear in scripture. You can twist other words to try to match it, but mere men can up with that formulation within the last few hundred years. Your teaching is not Apostolic.

          • sandraleesmith46

            The specific WORDS may not appear as such in scripture; but that is the MESSAGE of the Bible from Genesis through Revelation; and if you missed that because Paul or Peter or one of the others didn’t SAY it specifically that way, then YOU missed the message of the entire BIBLE! And that is the bottom line.

        • sandraleesmith46

          He could have defended Jesus until he was blue in the face; that would never have SAVED him; it was his faith alone that accomplished that; the defense was an OUTWORKING of his faith and salvation not a component of it!

      • master of sinanju

        The thief was the exception Christ had not yet died and not arisen from the grave. Study the word in depth and learn something. Everybody else needs to confess with their mouth that Christ is the son of God and be baptized, buried in water, not sprinkled.

  • Susan

    What is worse, Satanic Hollywood promotes all these evil, dysfunctional people as “role models” for our little children, making them into multimillionaires. They glorify idiots and evil ideology with billions of dollars, creating Toxic Culture like the vulgar Weimar Republic.

    Virtue used to be promoted even in our MSM, but that ended in the late 60s—and Kinsey and Hefner’s marginalized ideology was forced into our school indoctrination systems and mainstreamed….to flip Good and Evil in the minds of little children. Our public schools and TV destroy Virtue and sexualize our children with destroys morality.

    Parents need to unplug their TVs and take back the formation of the minds of their children. Parents are so concerned about food for the body—but the more important part of the human being—the mind–is ignored. Virtue is taught. If parents give their children up to day cares and institutions to “shape”, they will get little programmed zombies who are addicts and godless and have dysfunctional sad lives because the needed loving role models of true family with memories of family in childhood which are not embedded in their minds To be “human” means to be humanized by being surrounded by loving caring people when a child. Sorry to say, institutions never can replace a mother and father and biological connections which give true understanding and meaning to child.

    • Watching_and_Waiting

      Wow, that really hit home. My spouse is a teacher in public schools, and she has been so complicit in twisting our child’s mind to fit in with this world and the immorality of it all… and she refused to let him go to a private school, and she was always fussing about him not eating enough so she bought him all sorts of candy & snacks so he’d at least eat something. Now he only eats snack food & not real food. And now more & more he seems to be totally going down the road of the worldly immoral and godless liberal… because she was more concerned about making sure he had junk food to eat, and junk reading material to read if he wanted it, rather than feeding his soul and his character on virtue. She claims to be Christian, but does not act like it at home. God is not mocked… Many claim His name but do not really know Him. Those who know Him and are known by Him will be found out on Judgment day. I pray that my son will repent before then.

  • tarbella

    Yes, many are going to get away with much…for now. But, when they die, their spirit goes back to God who gave it. No, they are not going to a hell yet, as they will have one more chance to change,,,during the 1000 year period and there will be help for them. NOW, if they don’t change, ask for forgiveness, then they will totally die, never to be again, as ift hey were never born. No, they won’t go to a hell that we’ve always been told about, as God has mercy. They will just die,never to be again.

    • Ralph

      It is appointed for man to die once and then face the judgment. Hebrews 9: 27 after death it is too late…. today, if you hear His (Jesus) voice, harden not your hearts…

    • 094870

      tarbelle, where in the bible do you read that you good to GOD and have another chance? I find it no where in the Kink James version. So will you please sent me the address so I can read it for myself. I think that you are misreading the WORD of GOD.

      • sandraleesmith46

        I’ve read the KJV, NKJV, NIV, RSV, Jerusalem {a Douay-Reims approved RCC version}, Amplified, and am working on the Geneva translations, cover to cover and haven’t seen that in any of the versions I’ve read, and studied.

      • tarbella

        These are the ones that will have a chance to change and get to know God…Ezekiel 36 and 37. These will be in the second resurrection. And these are not just talking about Israelits, but also others that have either done wrong or just never knew Christ. Revelations 20:1-6 is the first resurrection and are the ones that died in Christ. They have already made it and will be changed [ into spirit beings ] and will be in Gods kingdom. This is a study for sure and is the plan of God. When you study and research, watch for certain words, evem commas, itallics. I also work with english version of the Greek and Hebrew words of the bible…which too helps.

    • sandraleesmith46

      “It is appointed unto man ONCE to die and then the judgment”. That doesn’t leave any room for changing their minds after death, as I understand it, either and is a companion to the Matthew scripture Sonpower gave. Revelation also talks about the judgment after death; and there’s not anything about the already dead having another chance during that millenium; that refers to those who manage to survive the 70th week of Daniel’s prophecy, also known as the great tribulation or Jacob’s trouble; a 7 year period we stand now on the very brink of seeing begin, which will be kind of a preview of hell but here on Earth, at least from what the Word says about it. John tells us had that period not been shortened there would no life have survived it; so there will be some who DO survive that period, and THOSE are who will yet have a chance to repent and turn to Jesus, not the dead.

      • Jane18

        Jesus SAID the tribulation of Satan would be shortened-Matt.24:22, Mark 13:20, “but for the elect’s sake, whom He hath chosen, He hath shortened the days.” That means we, the saved and unsaved, are going to be here on Earth(no rapture except from satan(the antihrist, who comes first, and will be saying “I’ve come to rapture you out of here!” So many will be deceived…

        • sandraleesmith46

          The UNSAVED will be here through the entire 70th week of Daniel’s prophecy, which corresponds to the “tribulation” period; and we who are among the saved may or may not be here through part of it; there are 3 schools of teaching on that, of which I lean more toward “mid-trib” but the Word is reasonably clear that the Church will NOT be on Earth through the “judgment” phase of that last week of years. We aren’t subject to judgment, any longer. And the Word tells us “as it was in the days of Egypt” and ” as it was in the days of Noah” with reference, which could mean we’ll be here, but shielded from it as were the Hebrews in Egypt and as Noah and his family were in the ark. Either way, WE aren’t appointed to judgment, because that was already covered on the cross at Calvary. The descriptions of the catching away are pretty clear as well. But that’s in God’s hands and timing. The judgment is for the UNSAVED only.

          • Jane18

            I’m thinking you are talking about GOD’s Great White Judgment, if you are, then you are wrong! GOD’s children that followed HIM, loved Him, repented from our sins, will be judged on our Righteous Acts(Works), and receive rewards. That’s hard to imagine isn’t it, what better reward could there be than to live with HIM eternally? For every negative, there is a positive, and we are, and will be HIS positive!

          • sandraleesmith46

            No; there are 2 separate events; the Great White Throne Judgment is 1 and the “awards ceremony” for believers is the other; and the 2 groups don’t mix, according to the Word. I already have the best 2: salvation, and God’s peace, nothing more needed. There are indeed positives, sometimes even in the midst of “negatives”! Amen to that! :-)

      • tarbella

        True, man has been appointed once to die…a physical death…g oing to sleep, awaiting the ressurrection. Look at Ezekiel 36 and 37, These are the ones that will be in the second ressurrection…those that were evil and those that did not know Christ or his father… Revelations 20:1-6 is the first resurrection…those that died in Christ. They will be spirit beings right away. The others will have a chance to change and make it into Gods kingdom. Those that won’t make it are the ones that hate God, won’t listen to him, etc.

        • sandraleesmith46

          The resurrection is only for those dead in Christ, whether OT or NT saints; the dead not in Him are simply dead to choice and will “awaken” only to judgment and final disposition. That’s what the Word tells us, repeatedly. There aren’t “second” chances after physical death for any. The time to make your choice is before that death occurs.

    • LuvUSA2

      Not sure where you found this about death being a nothingness.

      • tarbella

        Luv, go back up to sonpower and you’ll get the answer that I explained to him.

        • LuvUSA2

          Obviously we do not read the same Bible. Or, we interpret it differently. I would guess you are a JW. Eternal has no ending and no beginning. Unless you have re-written the dictionary. My Bible was written by men listening to God’s guidance, not men changing it to sound better and not make us feel bad. Death with no existence is a cop-out. A physical body can be destroyed by fire, but the spirit will always be. We both have our opinions, so I won’t continue to argue. We have to be on the same book.

          • tarbella

            Luv, I’m truly not arguing with anyone. I’m just answering a quuestion. A spitrual body can be destoryed if God wants to destroy it, especially if that body has not been changed yet, to live forever. You can’t just read the bible, you have to do much study and research toget answers. And no, I’m not a JW

        • LuvUSA2

          Obviously we are not reading the same Bible. The dictionary explains eternal as no beginning or end. My Bible was assembled by men guided by God. He is the author. They were the ones who scribed the words. I would guess you are a JW in thinking that those sinners who die as such, will evaporate into nothing. Fire will consume or destroy the physical and not the spiritual. Everlasting fire and punishment is eternal. We cannot debate unless we use the same Bible and then we begin to interpret. I will not continue to argue on this. My Bible does not evade eternal punishment for those who don’t wish to be with God. He does not force His will on us. He just tells us the consequences. Our choice. His arms are open wide for those who wish to be with Him.

  • Sonpower

    tarbella, I must be reading a different bible than you are. Here is what God’s Word actually says about Hell:
    Matthew 25:46
    “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

    • tarbella

      Yes. Now look at the word, ETERNAL punishment. When you put a match to a piece of paper, it burns all up and then is gone like the wind…gone. That’s what eternal punishment means…gone forever. Get your bible out and look further into this…watch for certain words.

  • Paladin

    The Bible states that “all nations that forget God shall be turned into hell. Anyone who fails to accept Christ and has not experienced the New Birth during this life here on earth is destined for Hell. No man wil be justified by his works.

    • charlie

      please give the scripture for this statement

      • patriciamlewis

        From the Letter of James (http://www.usccb.org/bible/james/2):

        14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him?i
        15 If a brother or sister has nothing to wear and has no food for the day,
        16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, keep warm, and eat well,” but you do not give them the necessities of the body, what good is it?j

        17 So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

        18 Indeed someone might
        say, “You have faith and I have works.” Demonstrate your faith to me without works, and I will demonstrate my faith to you from my works.
        19 You believe that God is one. You do well. Even the demons believe that and tremble.
        20 Do you want proof, you ignoramus, that faith without works is useless?
        21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered his son Isaac upon the altar?k
        22 You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by the works.
        23 Thus the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him
        as righteousness,” and he was called “the friend of God.”l
        24 See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.
        25 And in the same way,
        was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she welcomed the messengers and sent them out by a different route?

        26 For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.

      • sandraleesmith46

        Never pull a verse out of the context of the whole Word to create a doctrine; in fact that’s the lesson from Genesis through Revelation; that salvation is by FAITH in the work Jesus did on Calvary, through the grace of God’s provision and it’s FREE; we can’t “earn” or “buy” it! For the OT saints like Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David and others, they were looking forward to that event for their salvation; whereas we today look back to it, historically speaking. Their faith was in what they KNEW God was going to do, because He’d promised it, while ours is in what God DID, as He promised, but it’s that same single event that gave us that free gift of salvation if we’ll accept it on His terms. WE cannot dictate the terms of that gift, although many people and institutions try to do so, to their own hurt in the long run.

  • The_American_Way

    I don’t know if there is a hell and I don’t know if you go to hell and yes, I do believe in God. What I do know is that I will try to live my life according to Christian Principle. I will try to help when I can. I will be honest with other people. I will never knowing hurt someone or be cruel. Then when I die what ever happens happens.

    • 1patriot4u

      Sorry , just believing there is a God won’t cut it. Even the devil believes there is a God. You must believe in Jesus Christ and what he did on the cross. “No one goes to the Father except through me”. said Jesus.

  • Dal Sirany

    I believe the answer is contained in Word’s Christ uttered, for they are Dogmatic. “Not all who call me Lord, Lord will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but ONLY he who does the Will of My Father.” That sounds pretty clear and concise to me.
    So, does that mean those who “gamble” on the “common” (short cut) thought that one has only to accept Christ, and “They’re in”? Or, is Christ saying there is more required?

    • patriciamlewis

      More is required. At least for Catholics, the original Christians. Some breakaway groups may well think otherwise, and I think some of them do.

      • Croco Dile

        Nothing is “required” !

        There is only ONE thing – try to be the best human being you can be.

        That’s it – no more !

      • Nobody

        Hmm you need to study more. The original Christianity is the Orthodox Christianity. Any objective Catholic priest can confirm that.

        • patriciamlewis

          I knew someone would come along and say that. The point is disputed. All the more reason we should reconcile our differences and reunite. That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it.

          • Nobody

            That means that you already knew that :) Well I don’t believe that Vatican wants that. It is so hard to abandon that much eartly power and admit that you were wrong :) Any way we are out of subject and definitely we are not enemies. God bless you.

          • patriciamlewis

            And God bless you!

    • sandraleesmith46

      We are saved by grace through faith in the work of the cross on Calvary; but once saved God does expect us to work at conforming to His will, even though He knows we, while still human in this body, cannot succeed in doing so. But He has a remedy for that also; repentance, and keeping the channels open, by doing so. Our lives should show growing conformity to His example in Jesus, as time passes; but that isn’t necessary to become saved, it’s a consequence thereof. Because when one is saved, the desire is to please the Father, and that’s how we please Him. Other than turning to Him in repentance and seeking His forgiveness and asking Him into our hearts, by faith in His grace and free gift, NOTHING we do, be it good works or baptism, or any other action we as humans can take, will save us, because it’s NOT by our power or might that we’re to be saved and that was set in place before the first humans existed; before the Earth itself existed!

  • razz

    You’re right. There is no hell because people don’t believe in hell. You might as well aver that the earth is flat. If really believe it, it must be so. There are rules for everything under the sun: physics, mathematics, chemistry… only human behavior is left to us to ascertain what’s right and what’s good. You know: I’m Okay; You’re okay… why meddle? But if you believe in God and heaven, then there are certain requirements. God is a God of Rules; that’s His job! What about God’s compassion? You have to bring something to the table: ask Him for forgiveness and promise to amend your life: you will try to avoid evil ways. And if you fail, then you again beg forgiveness. Furthermore, you must surrender yourself to Him. Not easy. When you come to think of it, that’s not much of a heady requirement. But it’s our nature to hold back and maintain our independence. It’s the Devil’s Whisper…

  • regulus30

    LIBERALS DO ; THEY JUST CAN NOT REACH ACROSS THE paranormal divide and scream ;”give me some cold water”.

  • patriciamlewis

    You are so right, Doug.

    • Evan White

      I take it you are Catholic?? well, Catholicism is not ” the true Christians ” sorry. unlike catholics believe, saint peter could not have been a pope. Popes are not allowed to get married but Peter was married. The bible says so. I could debate for hours about Catholicism being a lie but this is not the right place to debate. If you want to chalange me to a debate about Catholicism go to Debate.com

  • regulus30

    liberals should never me totally eradicated ; they must be held up as the example of why America never should go down the libocrat road; it is a disaster/failure; review the last 50 years and see their twisted sick way of destroying their host body; as most parasites always do..

  • John 3:16

    This article reminds me of all the black churches across America that have worshipped that Godless evil communist Barry Ovomit and his obsession with killing babies in the womb and letting them die if they survive an abortion attempt…and his pathological lying. Then every death that happens with these devil worshipping racist..their funeral is called a home going…and claims are they are in a better place.
    God is not mocked.Thy must be born again Period!

  • Evan White

    cause she’s buying the stairway to heaven…..

  • Rose Annabelli

    They are used to having it all with no consequence just like our politicians!

    • 094870

      THEIR DAY WILL COME JUST AT THE TIME WHEN THEY LEAST EXPECT IT.

  • 094870

    YES, People WILL GO TO HELL WHEN JUDGEMENT DAY COMES. sO IF ANTONE TELLS YOU WHEN THAT DAY WILL COME, TELL THEM THAT THEY ARE CRAXY, FOR no man KNOWEST WHAT DAY THAT WILL BE SAYETH THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY.

  • MyronJPoltroonian

    I thought that when you had a debate, you needed some sort of definitional common ground. LIke: “What Is Creationism”, and “What Is Scientific Proof”? It seems that both sides should be discovering: “What Is God?”

    I have said the following before and then, in reply to several, severely tolerance-challenged, intellectual atheist’s, I had to post a reply. Both follow:

    Just so the “Self Anointed Purveyors of ‘Truth”, don’t get their jammies in a wrinkle:

    So many divisive questions, so many divisive answers. When I was 17, having been raised to understand that “You don’t have to be in a building, to believe in God”, I decided that “God is Energy, after all, It’s everywhere”. Now, some five plus decades later, scientists in the field of “Quantum Physics/Mechanics”, with “String Theory”, have postulated that there indeed may be vibrating “Strings” of energy everywhere. Not only in interstellar, but intergalactic space as well. The other half of my postulation rests on the question: “What is thought?”. In it’s purest form, it is merely an inexplicable bit of energy. If that is also true, then that, I believe, coupled with string theory, is the mind of God. How presumptuous is mankind to believe he can truly understand the mind, let alone interpret the will of God. If I may quote Puck: “What fools these mortals be”. Beyond that, you may ask: “Does he believe there is a God?” Yes, I do. Well then, “Does he believe Jesus (of Nazareth) is the Son of God?” Again. Yes, I do, as is every (hu)man a child of God. Well. How then does he explain all the different names of God and ways of worshiping Him? As Tom Sullivan (when he was still broadcasting on the radio from Sacramento) once related, he has an Egyptian friend who noted: “There is only One God, but many different ways of worshiping Him”. “Intelligent Design” came up and how silly it is (for believing in unprovable precepts such as “Gods Hand Created the Heavens and the Earth”, which is based on unprovable, blind Faith). And this from the same crowd who believe (as do I) that the universe was created from a “Cosmic Egg” that came from they know not where, yet just was (but wasn’t for very long), that suddenly went (”Big) Bang!” and voila! We are (eventually) born. No “Leaps of Faith” there. Nope, none at all. Oh yes, their “Resurrection Theology?” “Entropy!” That’s where the energy of the “Big Bang” eventually “runs out of steam”, if you will, and everything collapses back in on itself and, “Guess What?”, it starts all over again – maybe. And they talk about “A Leap of Faith?” indeed. “What Fools We Mortals Be?” “You Betcha!”

    [The Reply to the "Tolerance-Challenged" Atheists follows]: It is strange to me that so many pass through this mortal coil with blinders on. What is as plain as the nose on my face (and a proud proboscis it is indeed) is that I’m merely trying to point out that because I was raised to believe that “You don’t have to be in a building to believe in God” (even though my middle name comes from the French for Christmas because my parents met singing carols on a Christmas Eve), “The only thing I have against ‘Organized Religion’ is that it’s so ‘Organized’ ” (and you can quote me on that). Because my father had a beautiful baritone and was always in great demand to sing at various congregations, I would sometimes go with him to rehearsals and got to see the good church folk without their “Sunday”, or “Church Face” on. Which means I came to the realization that almost all overtly religious people were all coming from the viewpoint that only their particular interpretations were the “One, True Way” regardless of what those otherwise perfectly good “Church Folk” down the street, and around the corner believed. (Sort o’ like Northern Ireland, or, and more immediately, the “Religion of Peace” vs. the rest of humanity today.)

    As to the science and cosmology of discovering not only the “how”, but, and to me the equally important of “why” the universe works: In my late adolescence and early teens, I was reading Bertrand Russell and Fred Hoyle amongst several others and was opening a wider view of man’s place in the universe in myself. It was a time when discoveries seemed to be coming at a furious pace: “Big Bang, “No Bang”, “Steady State”, oops, “Big Bang” again, “Entropy”, et cetera … . Then came Sputnik and the Space Race was on. Then came the questions: “What is God?”, followed by, “Where is Heaven?”; then: “How big and how old is the universe and how long will it last?”. To me, it was a logical conclusion to meld the two. Everyone praises Einstein’s genius (especially for his era), yet gloss over his spirituality. Especially in his later years.* It strikes me odd that so many, the “Learned” of our day pooh, pooh the very concept of something greater than themselves. Usually they pause for the briefest of moments, drawing a deep breath of of something they cannot see (yes, yes, yes, I know it can be felt, measured, etc.), letting out the weariest of sighs, and then proceed to talk down to the rest of we mere mortals, explaining how what they cannot prove nor explain fully and completely is “The One True Way” to look at the universe.

    We of today look back several centuries and chuckle at the learned fools of the day who were fervently arguing about “How many Angels can dance on the head of a pin?”. Who indeed can predict how the learned of a few centuries hence will view us? In other words, everyone has blinders. It’s up to each individual to open his own eyes and see. Curiosity, after all, is in Man’s Nature. Whether it’s the scientist or the hunter, we all want to know “What’s on the other side”. We should never stop asking. We should never stop searching. Most importantly, we should realize that we will never find all the answers because there’ll always be another question to answer, another hill to climb and another river to cross.

    * Well, since I wrote the forgoing, it appears that the “Big Bang” is once again relegated to the trash bin of formerly iron clad “Scientific Consensus”. [Or has it been resurrected again? I'm going to start calling it the "Chuckie of the Universe."]

    ** Sir Fredrick Hoyle’s “Steady State Theory”, by the way, postulated that stars (and, by extension, galaxies) simply “Appeared” to fill the void left between them by a steadily expanding universe. I.e.: “Think of a balloon’s surface with dots on it. As it expands, the distance between the dots grows further and further apart. I believe that new ones simply appear to fill the void between them”; (May I suggest Googling: [BBC Universe - Steady State theory challenged the Big Bang]).

    By the way: “Intelligent Design” doesn’t challenge the “How” of the universe, just the “Why”.

    *** At the time of writing these words, I was not aware of the exact quotes. Here is an excerpt from a Time Magazine article dated: Thursday, April 05, 2007. Quote: ” … Einstein did, however, retain from his childhood religious phase a profound faith in, and reverence for, the harmony and beauty of what he called the mind of God as it was expressed in the creation of the universe and its laws. Around the time he turned 50, he began to articulate more clearly–in various essays, interviews and letters–his deepening appreciation of his belief in God, although a rather impersonal version of one. One particular evening in 1929, the year he turned 50, captures Einstein’s middle-age deistic faith. He and his wife were at a dinner party in Berlin when a guest expressed a belief in astrology. Einstein ridiculed the notion as pure superstition. Another guest stepped in and similarly disparaged religion. Belief in God, he insisted, was likewise a superstition.”

    “At this point the host tried to silence him by invoking the fact that even Einstein harbored religious beliefs. “It isn’t possible!” the skeptical guest said, turning to Einstein to ask if he was, in fact, religious. “Yes, you can call it that,” Einstein replied calmly. “Try and penetrate with our limited means the secrets of nature and you will find that, behind all the discernible laws and connections, there remains something subtle, intangible and inexplicable. Veneration for this force beyond anything that we can comprehend is my religion. To that extent I am, in fact, religious. … .”

    As a dear, but now departed, friend used to say: “Great minds travel in the same rut”. (Even yours and mine.)

    • Croco Dile

      “this force beyond anything that we can comprehend is my religion”

      Yes, no human being can comprehend the Reality, but because we have a brain and want to know, people started to invent gods.

      But this concept of gods has nothing to do with Reality.
      Reality does not ask to be believed, it just IS.

      For gods you need Faith, and Faith will always be deceived and abused, as the Reality of past Millenia shows us.

      • Bob K

        Because mere men always wanted to “bend the truth” as God originally gave it to us…. He said that to belong to HIM as HIS PEOPLE, we first had to try and obey the RULES. If we did not want to obey THE COMMANDMENTS, then we don’t belong! – And God does NOT LISTEN TO THOSE WHO REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT FACT! Does NOT even listen to their prayers even (John). SO, RELIGIONS are man-made organisations, that reflect any one of a thousand or so ideas spouted by men with LITTLE ADHERENCE TO THE TRUTH OR FACTS! – And thus, NO CHURCH can save anyone, as we have to individually come closer to God ourselves, until we UNDERSTAND the SIMPLICITY of HIS WAYS! suggest you read FaceBook’s “Kamaut Longbabilon” who teaches and rebukes even the ones who call themselves pastors and priests….

    • Bob K

      That is why The angel who spoke to MOSES said that NO MAN could ever look on the FACE OF GOD and LIVE! – Think… if He is OMNIPRESENT and OMNIPOTENT all around and everywhere…. and he can see any one of us where-ever we are in the universe, then we must be INSIDE GOD (theory yet)… and if we ever could, as mortals, travel so far out into space as to see the “face of God” then by that time we would have run out of food, air ,and our lifespan… indeed – we’d be DEAD! – maybe look at the Fbook page called Kamaut Longbabilon” as he talks about such things as well!

  • DrSique

    Does anyone go to hell anymore? No room at the inn. SRO. At least, almost everyone involved in government will still be keeping each other company. Dante has a special place for Eric Holder, with a hot tub to bath in all the blood that he has spilled.

  • COMMANDER58

    There have been those in the past who have taken God’s word and majesty lightly. John Lennon put his music above Jesus, We all know what happened to John Lennon. A latin American singer blew out some smoke and said “God this is for you” he died a horrible death from complications relating to AIDS. The captain of the Titanic proclaimed that even God could not sink it. A past President elect of Brazil proclaimed that if elected even God could not remove him from office. He got the votes but died before he could take the office. Finally from Britian a girl was going out to party with her drunken friends her mother told her to be cautious and go with God. The girl responded that if God goes with them he would have to go in the boot (the trunk). The car was involved in a bad wreck and all the young people killed yet when the looked in the trunk the found an unbroken carton of eggs.
    Truth is that people may mock the concept of hell and eternal punishment but they should realize that hell is a very real place. Many people are going to be in for a rude awakening if they do not repent from their sins.

  • sandraleesmith46

    God will not be mocked; He’s still both loving and RIGHTEOUS, and both aspects of His character must be satisfied. Even many who believe themselves “saved” and that they’re “living good lives” will find Jesus saying to them “I knew you not”, and sent off to the left. Churches have been infiltrated by agents of Satan, the “gospels” they preach distorted, diluted, by ecumenism and “tolerance”; by allowing those who practice blatant sins routinely to remain within the body, forgetting the lessons from the OT that Israel’s history is meant to teach us about allowing sinners to remain in the body. Of course, we are still all sinners; but those who willfully practice sinful behaviors, be they sexual of any sort outside the union of marriage between a man and his own wife, or otherwise, should not be permitted to remain within the body while actively practicing whatever that sin or sins is {are}, as Paul told and showed us. Think of sin as a contagious disease; of course sick people need to be cared for even when they have highly virulent and contagious diseases, BUT there’s a proper way to do so, so that you DON’T spread the contagion, and bringing it HOME Is NOT the way to do so. There’s a thing called isolation technique, and a form of that would apply when dealing with active sinners as well as with say smallpox, or plague, because whom do you help by succumbing to the disease yourself and exposing others to it as well?

  • MARYANN33

    Deception of the devil to make people believe there is no penalty for sin and that there is no devil and no hell…By then it is too late and the devil will have much company in hell.

    • Bob K

      Thank the Lord for not causing any torture, even to the evil ones… where HELL is actually the GRAVE! – But the permanent fire that will consume those TRULY evil people, is after THEY have been taken out of their graves, to stand trial, and condemned to a final death by a fire that can burn even Satan and his angels… I suggest that may be a type of atomic disintegration, where even the quarks will be destroyed… rendering a long “Flash” of fire lasting minutes or hours… looking like a “Lake of Fire” … but a quick disintegration of every atom and quark all at once in those evil people, would be painless… showing yet again God’s mercy… and then releasing us of those evil influences for ever. Those famous rock-stars and Film-stars are making their OWN”curses” of the 2nd. Commandment, by ignoring, insulting, disobeying, dishounouring, mocking, God The Creator, who made the rules SO SIMPLE, and easy for us, yet we made priests and pastors to look after us with incredibly complex FABLES that dont come anywhere NEAR what God taught us!

      • MARYANN33

        That is not what the word says…Hell with eternal burning and torment…..

      • Alex M

        “a quick disintegration of every atom and quark all at once in those evil people, would be painless”

        What will happen to the Higgs Bosons?

  • Thomas Sharp

    I say, Good call Doug.

  • Bob K

    Well, I have said all along in these columns, that very FEW people actually PRACTICE and BELIEVE GOD in what HE requires of us anyhow… Jesus compared our last days here as like what NOAH had to face… and there were many hundreds of thousands of Noah’s relatives that drowned in the flood, but only Noah and close Family BELIEVED what God told them! – AND DID the WORKS of that FAITH! – The answers lie in Gen-2 and Exodus 20, and Matthew 5-17 etc… and check your calendar that reads S-M-T-W-T-F-S(Shabat)… it WAS also meant for Christians, according to The Bible, and no buts about it. John said that if we did NOT follow God’s Laws, then God ignores us, and wont even listen to prayers from those infidels. Make you THINK? – it did for me… and repentance only works, IF we are truly wanting to follow AS REQUIRED to BELONG TO HIM (constitutionally as well)…

    • shelly

      Are you a Seventh Day Adventist?

  • AG Dot Com!

    Put pretty plainly, the greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was to convince man that he did not exist – and just like that, he was gone.

    My guess is there are quite a few rock stars and actors spending the rest of eternity very confused in their special little place in Hell.

  • Mobetta Jenkem

    You called it RIGHT, sir.

    • Phishhed44

      Abdulziz Muh Dik agrees! ;D

  • Alamoses

    Watch “The Forbidden Book: History of the English Bible” on YouTube. The Word of God hasn’t always been available. Most people, even those who wax philosophical, have not studied what the Holy Bible says. What a shame that people claim to know and tell others what they think without bothering to examine the source. Laziness and discomfort are the real reasons for not reading the Bible when statistics show how much television people watch and how political correctness disagrees with God’s law. Jesus said the only way to the Father is through himself, Jesus. God’s Word doesn’t recognize the diversity claims of the inclusive ecumenical community.

  • kimber1911

    Right on the kinipopo !!!

  • Phishhed44

    I’ve been there, and back. It is more frightening than man can imagine. I died and came back…lucky me (to be here? I am now reborn and washed clean in the River Jordan…praise be to Yahweh!!!!

  • Marsha

    They will be in hell if they don’t or won’t change their ways!! Eternal fire and damnation awaits those who deny God and disobeys his commandments!!

    • JaundicedView

      Hell is reserved for those who deny Christ and the Salvation by Grace that the Sacrifice on the Cross represents. Sinning does NOT damn one, as ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. “There is none righteous, no, not one.” Not that we are to sin all the more because of Grace, but that we have forgiveness through Grace. “If we confess our sins, God who is faithful and just, will cleanse us from our sins and all unrighteousness.”

      • master of sinanju

        You are half right, baptism must be performed also.

        • Denise

          Actually baptism is not a part of salvation. It is the outward expression of it. Remember the thief on the cross? He wasn’t baptized, but Jesus told him he would go to heaven when he died because he believed that Jesus was the Christ and he was repentant of his sins. Some people misinterpret John 3:5, “unless one is born of the water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the Kingdom of God.” If you continue reading vs. 6, you will see vs. 5 explained, “That which is born of the flesh is flesh and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. ” This correlates water with flesh. It refers to our physical birth, not of baptism. If baptism were a part of salvation, it would involve some action on our part, but Jesus says salvation is a GIFT from God, and not of works that we have done. We can do NOTHING to gain our salvation. Jesus paid it ALL. PRAISE GOD FOR HIS INCREDIBLE GIFT!

          • ChristianMan

            The thief on the cros was not baptized because Christ had not died yet. You can’t be buried with hrist and rise up an new man if there was not a burial. This has been an ongoing debate for wuite some time, this is my belief.

      • Terrya

        Understood, but you can tell by someones life that they are not living for the Lord. The judge is Christ but they are not examples of someone who is changed.

  • Dan S.

    I couldn’t have said it any better than that.

  • Ben Name

    AG Dot Com will come back from the dead and confirm that there is a heck.

  • Terrya

    Well said Doug. Christians are known by their fruits and when these Hollywood celebrities pass away after being known for drug use and riotous living, people deem that they were great people. They will go somewhere. I think it’s a place where they will see many of their friends.

  • JosephHyde

    This will be some of the best reading that you’ve ever done.

    Choo Nam Thomas.

    http://choothomas.org

    Hope this helps.

    Mike Peralta

    https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/138255

    This too!

  • MARYANN33

    You better believe there is a hell…You have to choose to go there by your actions and choices.

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