SEXING UP YOUR KIDS: Here’s What A School Has for Your 4th Grader

Here is a book called “It’s Perfectly Normal” that is on the UT extension web site as recommended reading.

https://utextension.tennessee.edu/publications/documents/SP681-C.pdf

Textbook Advocate Karen Bracken says, “I have no doubt these books are in our schools, we just don’t have any real hard proof.” Karen continues, “When I do my presentations on Common Core I bring this book with me because the National Sexuality Standards are strongly influenced by Planned Parenthood and It’s Perfectly Normal is written by Robie H. Harris who is associated with PP and PP endorses this book. So it is my ASSUMPTION it will be a recommended book for children 10 years and up when the National Sexuality Standards are implemented…I have been given second hand stories of parents from TN that stated this book is in the schools.”

The author of the book is Robie H. Harris, she  is a member of PPFA’s National Board of Advocates, and Planned Parenthood people helped her write the book.  After it was written, PP endorsed the book and even held book signing parties for Ms. Harris.

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IMG_7175-e1392848115593Cartoon Pictures of Different Types of Naked Bodies

IMG_7166What male sex organs look like

IMG_7169This page teaches how to use a condom

IMG_7176-e1392848249619How to Masturbate

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  • Marge

    Dear God…are you kidding me. And why do 4th graders need to be aware of this… they not only want our kids addicted to drugs (prescription included) but they want them addicted to sex making them base animals with no self control.

    • A Yankee in Texas

      Ignorance is what they’re fighting. And why would anyone (liberals, conservatives, or moderates) want to encourage addiction? To believe so is idiotic.

      • Ben Name

        Empowerment is a very scary thing to the people who wield the power.

    • Rajun Cajun

      “making them base animals with no self control.”

      That’s what the left want.. They are more easily manipulated and controlled. They create the perfect Democrat robot voter..

  • Stephen Foster

    My first class of sex education was in 9th grade. The class lasted a few days only,
    and it covered all of the important topics, like how a female became pregnant,
    what sperm was, what venereal disease was, etc. Just a few days and it was
    finished.

    • Deb

      Mine, too. Grade 9. Matter-of-fact, a few illustrations that were non-sexual, done. Girls and boys were separated for this class so we couldn’t get all giggly and awkward with each other. Some of us asked some straightforward questions that were answered well and respectfully.
      Never thought I’d think of the ’80s as the good ol’ days.
      Think of how much money would be saved if this common-sense approach was used everywhere, instead of that creepy Common-core.

      • Steven DePriest

        If you think the 80′s were good, you should have been here for the 60′s!

        • Deb

          Wasn’t born then. Heh. But I guess the ’60s hadn’t fully infiltrated all its wackiness into the ’80s yet. Now they have.

  • IRAMARINE

    Perfectly
    Normal Masturbation is taught to 4th Graders! That should land them a high
    paying minimum wage job!
    No wonder they don’t have time for
    the 3 Rs reading, writing and arithmetic
    when you being taught to Masturbate in the 4th grade!

    • wiggumc1

      They should call it the yank, spank, and wank class.

      In all seriousness, this is yet ANOTHER reason why we are homeschooling one daughter with the other in private preschool. She too will be homeschooled with a classical education.

  • phil62

    This cannot go on and it can be stopped. It is past time for Christians to sit back and remain PASSIVE because Jesus said to love everybody. He said to love everybody but NOT the sins they commit. And did He fight back physically when he lost His temper (yea- Jesus has a temper and so does God – uh-news flash). It is time to stand up and physically fight back OR maintain your passivity and allow the sin to expand until they raise enough children to do away with any and all forms of open Christian morals and worship.

    • A Yankee in Texas

      Not everyone is christian. And morality is not the exclusive domain of christians.

      • Ben Name

        ahhh, according to Christians it is. Their way is the only way to get into Heaven.

        • Robert177

          Look. Since the majority of non-Christians in the USA are atheists, then why even worry about it? Atheists seem to “know” there is no God and no heaven. And, if there is none, then they are not missing out on anything, are they?

          • Ben Name

            I think you are referring to Agnostics, not Atheists.

  • Freedom?

    Smacks of immorality.

    • Stephen Foster

      They are taking the place of the parents. It is the authority of parents’
      that they are trying replace.

  • Sunny

    What!? How can anyone believe this is good for a child to see!? Can’t they enjoy childhood past age 8 or 9? Trust me, they figure things out all in good time.

    Recently, I was elected to our local school board in PA. The good news for PA, we did not adopt Common Core’s content. The folks here had the breaks put on at the state level; thanks to our Tea Party…who has not stopped fighting the good fight. With that being said, we must stay vigilant, the enemy is prowling and he seeks to destroy.

  • gotcha1988

    People! Get your kids out of these damnable public schools! Homeschooling is your right. It is a joy. And the best thing: your kids absorb YOUR values and beliefs, not those of the godless state.

    • ClicknConnect Clubs

      I loved Home Schooling!! It was the BEST time of our lives!

    • JackJacks0n

      so indoctrinate your kids with your personal bias, great idea..

      • gotcha1988

        Darn right Jack. Someone will indoctrinate my children and you can bet it will be me: THEIR FATHER. It’s my job. Of course, you probably don’t know anything about being a responsible dad. That’s the difference between a man and a boy. I’m willing to man up and take responsibility.

        • JackJacks0n

          I don’t think the word “indoctrinate” means what you think it means. glad to hear you admitting that you’re not a responsible father either, so I’m not alone here.

          • gotcha1988

            Indoctrinate-
            1 : to instruct especially in fundamentals or rudiments : TEACH
            2 : to imbue with a usually partisan or sectarian opinion, point of view, or principle
            Don’t argue with an English teacher.

          • Alex M

            “Don’t argue with an English teacher.”

            Especially one who has the Oxford English Dictionary :

            Indoctrinate [ɪnˈdɒktrɪneɪt] : Teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs uncritically

            The last word is the important one.

          • JackJacks0n

            ah you got me, keep on trolling. good luck at that! :)

          • gotcha1988

            Merriam-Webster is the English teacher. Doctrine is teaching. To indoctrinate is to instruct in a particular set of beliefs. Why a parent would want to turn his children over to someone else so the other person can indoctrinate them- that has always been a mystery to me.

      • ClicknConnect Clubs

        I wasn’t aware that parents “indoctrinate”…parents are to train up a child in the way that they should go….oops, that might be too Biblical for you.

        What “doctrine” do YOU think children should follow? Secular socialism? Is that more your speed?

        Schools are for: READING, WRITING AND MATH!! Of which they are failing at miserably!

        • JackJacks0n

          if you only present singled out information and only your personal views: yes. that’s how he stated it.
          a child deserves an open mind to make its own opinions about certain things.

          so taht’s are the three things you want to teach in school? no history, physics, chemistry, biology, religion, ethics, sports, politics, languages?
          I don’t know how what schools in your country look like, but with all that missing it will go broke.

          • ClicknConnect Clubs

            Wow….just trying to read what you wrote…CASE IN POINT! Schools need to teach the BASICS and NOT porno!!

            With all those classes you listed, there is NO time for porno is public schools….

            PS: Maybe you should go back to a PRIVATE school and learn how to write and spell….just a thought.

            And, if you don’t want to do that…go put your raincoat on and tour the parks you “ding-dong”….

      • ClicknConnect Clubs

        Yes, it IS a GREAT idea!

  • fliteking

    As predicted, this is aggressive recruitment of kids into the perverted sexual world of the leftist liberals.

    Clearly the liberals want access to kids.

    Clearly a teacher 30 years ago would have refused to teach this information.

    Your country is being stolen, your kids childhood is being stolen, your silence is approval.

  • محمد عمر

    The delivery of the information in this form to the child is to destroy the purity of the same, I think most worthy of pulling the book from schools

  • texas57

    2 words, HOME SCHOOL

    • Ben Name

      two nouns too.

    • MyRoseHasTHORNS

      Homeschool :)

      Both are actually correct though!

  • Doug

    The parent’s job, NOT the schools! Good grief.

    • Ben Name

      Yeah, even if they are a single parent of five kids while working two jobs and waiting in long lines for government freebees.

      • ClicknConnect Clubs

        Feeding kids this kind of filth is what produces SINGLE PARENTS in the first place! Get a clue.

        • Ben Name

          what do you have against single parents? Should they stay with their mate even if it isn’t good for them or their children?

          • ClicknConnect Clubs

            Nothing.

          • Ben Name

            Since you have no issues with single parents then you must really have no issues with what makes them single parents then.

          • ClicknConnect Clubs

            Then, you’re crazy.

          • ClicknConnect Clubs

            Of course not…I didn’t. Your comment to Doug didn’t make any sense. What were you trying to say?

          • Ben Name

            My point is very clear. Some parents do not have luxury of time like other people. How is that difficult to understand?

          • ClicknConnect Clubs

            So, you use “luxury” as an excuse to TEACH FILTH to 4th graders???

            Like I said, you’re crazy.

          • ClicknConnect Clubs

            Maybe they should spend valuable school time to teach READING, WRITING AND MATH!

            Not porno.

    • http://nortonzone.symantec.com/ Pike Juan

      Yup. All education should be in the hands of parents. Heck, just get rid of public education altogether. I don’t want my kid to think the Earth is not the center of the universe!

  • smartypants

    Yeah, just keep them in the dark so they can start popping out babies in 7th grade. They are doing it regardless at least you know you educated them properly before they make these decisions. And no, I’m not a democrat you crazy hillbillies.

    • Pauline Wolak

      Or here’s a crazy thought, let parents teach their children about sex and leave the other stuff to the school. You know, things like reading and math and science. Our schools, it would seem, have their priorities out of whack. I’m perfectly capable of teaching each of my children about sex in the way that I want them taught. I don’t need to show them 20 cartoon pictures of naked bodies to do it. And if a fourth grader really needs a lesson in condom usage, we have bigger problems than this book. Please, for the love of God, get back to the three R’s. Leave the rest of it alone.

      • Deb

        And another point: teenage pregnancy has gone up despite decades of sex-ed and free condoms. It doesn’t work, this stupid creepy stuff. It’s more like a recruitment tool for leftists obsessed with our kids.

        • Robert177

          I hate to point out the difficult part, but the vast majority of the “teenage pregnancy” occurs in inner cities, among poor minority kids. Not out in the suburbs and/or among middle-class non-minority kids. The typical conservative “white” communities have a very LOW teen pregnancy rate. This should tell you that they are doing a darn good job already on the way THEY teach sex-ed to their kids.

    • Michele L Clark

      Ugh yeah I would say you are a definite liberal by calling other people hillbillies. Sure kids should be educated but the material is never run by parents and guess what the schools and state don’t own our children and sensitive materials be it sexual, drugs or Religious need to be brought to parents first. The AGE they are teaching this is inappropriate period.

      • Ben Name

        Yeah, because most conservatives here would never call someone a name.

        • Charie

          Well, you certainly added a lot to the conversation.

          • Ben Name

            Well, at least you didn’t call me stupid, buttwipe, idiot, jackass, tool or worst of all troll.

        • Robert177

          While both sides sometimes call names, from my experience the liberals are usually the first to do so while exchanging views. Many, if not most libs I know have very short fuses and tend to do quite a bit of venting, shouting, and trying to drown out the opposition.

          • Ben Name

            thanks for admitting that you know it comes from both sides. You should really take a look around here at who is slinging names first because my experience is absolutely the opposite of what you see as what is occurring.

    • Ya Dont Say?

      10 year olds have no business getting sexed up…and that is ALL that book is doing.

    • Jill

      You are also not familiar with rhetoric, sentence construction, or basic grammar. Do you expect to be taken seriously when the greatest weapon in your intellectual arsenal is a weak ad hominem?

    • Charie

      They’re already doing this faster and faster and in more quantities than ever. We’ve had all the sex ed for the past 30 years in schools and it hasn’t stopped one damned kid from getting pregnant. If a student didn’t get pregnant it’s because they had parents who taught them about sexual morality at the proper time.
      You can talk like that because you seem to be aiming for Chief Moron. Teachers in a public school should not be teaching this. Is it any wonder our children are being less and less well-educated when they waste so much time being involved in sex ed. This only sexualizes children. and serves no good purpose at all.
      Those of you who are using this forum to make snarky comments about Christians might just want to use the brain you’ve got and understand that, even though Liberals have convinced you otherwise, there is such a thing as morality in this world and those who don’t or forget that will soon see our culture sink into barbarism.

    • Robert177

      Why the insults? Why call perfect strangers “hillbillies”? That is soooo uncalled for. People such as you deserve no respect, as you give none.

  • http://natzrim.blogspot.com/ Ronnie James

    “Your holding it all wrong… who holds it like that…”(Just another big word, eh)

  • SN0man

    And we have to pay for this at gunpoint.

  • ginger blue

    I agree this does not belong in a school house, but back when my oldest was 5 one day he saw dogs humping and said, “They are getting married.” His little friend had told him that humping was getting married, so obviously that sparked a conversation regarding marriage and sexual conduct and where do babies come from. He was a very matter of fact kid so I bought a book by this same author called It’s Amazing and found it really helpful AT HOME (still say this doesn’t belong in school). We flipped through and talked about things that interested him, skipped what didn’t. Once in a while he’d open it up and look at it on his own… but it was handled at home, I’d be upset if my kids saw this at school. All my kids have understood the basic biology of reproduction from a young age through our pets and livestock but this helped answer how that transcends over to humans.

  • Guest

    Nothing wrong with teaching kids about sex. It’s not dirty or immoral to masturbate. Good Lord what are you people puritans?
    One if you deny it it does not go away.
    Two if you think the kids don’t already have ideas about this please think again.
    Three better to be informed then lead by some idealistic fantasy.
    I home school my kids but not because of books like this more because I want them to think on their own and stay away from the kids who have parents like ones who posted here.

    • Stephen Foster

      Keep thinking the Puritans didn’t have any fun. For over 200 years’
      the so called Puritans lived in New England and hardly any immigrants
      except from England came there. But by the time of the Irish Famine
      the Puritans had managed to increase their numbers by many times over.

      • Nici Davis

        they also murdered innocent people claiming they were witches. . .

    • gtm615

      I don’t mind teaching my children this. In fact I believe it is my responsibility as a parent. But, this is flat out obscenity. And as for teaching, it is my job. I disapprove of it being the schools. Just as an example of the wrong in teaching like this, I wish to provide the example of the school I attended. In the year I graduated from high school there were 0 unwed mothers produced. One year after introduction of sex education in that school there were 9.

    • GEAH

      “Nothing wrong with teaching kids about sex.”

      It’s age-inappropriate, plain and simple. How can you not get that?

    • revwillie

      Forth Graders ? As in, before 14 years old ?? Why not wait til 11th grade or 12th grade when NORMAL kids start experimenting ??

      • Deescusted

        Are you serious? Have you not heard of teenage pregnancy? Crawl back in your hole.

        • GEAH

          How many 4th graders get pregnant? Or were you a teenager in 4th grade, which would explain a lot.

          • Deescusted

            You’re right, we wouldn’t want to PREVENT it….we can just kill it after it happens….right?

          • GEAH

            Why does a 4th grader need graphic instruction on condom use and masturbation?

        • Jill

          Why reference teenage pregnancy when the person you are responding to clearly referenced fourth grade children. My own two children were eight and nine in the fourth grade. Eight and nine doth not a teenager make.

          • Deescusted

            Let me guess….you starred in “Idiocracy”? Good luck to you and your head in the sand mentality, Grandma. My kids will graduate BEFORE becoming parents.

          • Ronald Green

            You hope.

      • Michael Silvia

        LOL… you think kids don’t start experimenting until 11th or 12th grade… how quaint and idea… lol… you must live in the little house on the prairie… While you can argue the appropriate age to introduce these subjects to kids, you cannot argue the message. IMO 6th or 7th grade is probably a more realistic time to expect kids to start “experimenting” with this sort of thing and broach these subjects.

      • Ben Name

        What do you mean by normal?

        • Charie

          Obviously, not you.

          • Ben Name

            please then, what is normal so I can strive for it?

          • Guest

            Its called the Bible Ben and I highly recommend you read it before it is too late. I sincerely mean this. Jesus loves you and wants you with Him always, but it is your choice to make.

    • http://twitter.com/Lady_Liberty10 Heidi Ulrich

      It’s NOT the Governments job to teach children at school how to masturbate and what is good and bad sex. They are not allowed to touch or give innocent hugs in kindergarten but this is ok? No wonder these kids grow up confused no boundaries everything is getting blurred

      • Ben Name

        touching oneself and touching another person are two different things. Though I agree with you, if that is what is happening, it is a mixed message.

    • nldel5

      YEAH its not wrong. WHAT is WRONG is they dont know how to spell, read, write or do MATH yets have the time for this JUNK? Get real and move back to earth!

      • Ben Name

        That’s just the athletes.

    • Jill

      It is all in the presentation. Within the framework of rudimentary biology, generally taught at this age, anatomy and reproduction lessons cross no lines.This book, on the other hand, is not. Hence why such topics are not generally taught until a child has entered the formal operational stage of intellectual development. As for your rationale for home schooling, I would say that segregating your children and not allowing them to encounter dissent is doing them a grave disservice. You are literally homeschooling for all the wrong reasons.

      • Ben Name

        So you are saying 4th graders are stupid?

    • Sam

      It is not appropriate to teach such garbage to little kids or anyone’s kid.

      • Ben Name

        It’s not appropriate to leave them homeless on the streets, but it happens. Which is worse? Which would you rather change?

        • SiRobertson

          That’s an irrational question…apples and oranges.

          • Ben Name

            No it isn’t. We are talking about the safety or our children. That’s the real issue not this crap about books.

    • Barbara Schold Kiser

      Its simply NOT age appropriate. 6th grade maybe 4th grade NO!

    • mom

      There’s nothing wrong with teaching kids about sex. But it’s not the school’s or the government’s job to do so. Regardless of the material.

  • AR154U

    I’m really surprised they didn’t make this a pop-up book !!
    Photo is inner city children having condom races,.. for FUN at camp !!

    • Ben Name

      Ha Ha. No it isn’t. It’s African teen girls (ages 15-17) taken by a peace corps worker in Limpopo where AIDS is a real threat to children that are forced to have sex by men. The whole workshop’s goal was to empower women so they know they do not have to have sex with men or, if they choose to, that they do it safely and smart.

  • Brosky

    Get your kids out of the regime’s brainwash camps!

  • Dwayne Newton

    You libtards are so stupid!! So you think it’s appropriate for 7 and 8 yr olds to learn this stuff to just turn around and experiment? Then you end up with an expecting 7 or 8 yr old. Get a brain people!! Or a vasectomy or whatever, b/c dummies like you shouldn’t breed!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/Lady_Liberty10 Heidi Ulrich

    I also noticed that it points out that “some religions call masturbation a sin” but it’s perfectly normal…. they are pitting small children against the parents

    • Grammy

      Its all part of their cult-like agenda Heidi, if they can turn the children from their conservative parents when they are young and impressionable, they have them right where they want them…brainwashed.

  • http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzVjnbyQ2Nqy9LlBHL_vi-A Prof. Phil

    Sorry but, damn… They even have crippled pussy! lol

  • nldel5

    Yet they can not read well nor write much…such a shame!

    • Ben Name

      They are in 4th grade.

      • Jill

        Nationally, test scores indicate that children are losing ground in both reading and math, when compared to their international peers.

        • Ben Name

          Are you sure it’s losing ground or are kids in other countries getting smarter because their schools are getting better?

      • Grammy

        Good point, it is public school we are talking about after all.

        • Ben Name

          That’s right everyone! See that! “Good point.”

  • GEAH

    Upon reading that book in class, I think a boy should stand up, pull his pants down and start spanking his monkey, claiming it’s perfectly normal.

  • Ben Name

    Next think you know “Everyone Poops” will be banned.

  • Sam

    This book is outrageous! It doesn’t belong in ANY classroom. While it may be “normal”, it is up to the parents to talk about such things with their kids. The teachers have no authority to teach this garbage. Kevin Jennings is the school safety “tzar”. He is a homosexual pervert appointed by obama. The founder of NAMBLA wrote the foward to Jennings books called “The Queering of the Schools”. Don’t allow the school to warp your child’s brain or make them uncomfortable with pornography, which is what this book is, in cartoon form.

  • Sam

    This trashy book is being taught but the children are not allowed to sing Christmas songs.

  • DrRGP

    And another fillip to home schooling and private schools, increasingly leaving government (a.k.a. “public”) schools to “educate” (a.k.a. indoctrinate) those who cannot escape.

    • Ben Name

      because parents can’t indoctrinate?

  • kah_cherub

    I see nothing wrong with this… it’s nature, it’s natural!

    • dnav

      If you think schools are responsible to teach their doctrine on sex to 4th graders, there is something wrong with you — you are a part of the problem.

      My kids all knew what anatomy was by 4th grade, I taught them. My kids don’t need to know about masturbation until they reach puberty, I’ll teach them.

      My kids are taught that full intercourse is reserved for the marital relationship and why fidelity is important until they are ready. That’s my guaranteed right by the Constitution of the US. Just because you or others think it is okay to hop from sack to sack with a condom and birth control, that does not make it right.

      So yes, there is a serious problem when our educational system thinks they have the right to indoctrinate our kids the way they want to.

      I also teach my children this. My kids answer the questions in school and give the right answers that the school expects, I taught them to do that, but they also know better and know that the school systems endeavor to indoctrinate and can propound lies.

      My kids understand the Constitution because I teach them, my kids love their American heritage and are ready to maintain it when called upon.

      I know the likes of you will say that I’m indoctrinating my kids — well, duh? That’s called freedom. We came to America to have the right to teach out kids values, remember.

      So if you want to teach your kids how to jump from bed to bed, go ahead, but the school has no right and I have a right not to.

      • Massgopguy

        You won’t have to teach your kids about masturbation when they hit puberty. They’ll figure it out. BTW, your Water Bill will be going up.

        • dnav

          Yeah, you’re right.

    • Gagal24

      Yes it is natural…but NOT for my 4th grade child!!!

      • Co2

        Yes, natural … so when daddy or mommy or uncle or aunt or babysitter comes into the bedroom at night, the child is acclimated to “normal”?

      • GigsUp

        please see my other comment. I’m not sure if it’s above or below lol.
        the injection of another person not performing in a nurturing role (not the parent) almost guarantees UNnatural behaviors.
        yes a child naturally learns and feels sexuality, but the injection of others interpretations, beliefs, etc. actually prohibits the “natural” course of events.

        • Gagal24

          I am so glad that my state can see the horror of common core and will not alow it to be tought to our children.

    • kysunflower

      not for 9 year olds it isn’t, it sexual abuse.

    • LW

      Of course you think that. Look at your profile pict!

    • GigsUp

      I think you need to go get educated on “nature”. I think you also need to get educated on “nurture” as well. Actually teaching anything to do with sexual behaviors is and causes the OPPOSITE of “natural”.

      Apparently these topics are not longer taught in schools?

      This is NOT nature or natural it IS PERVERSION.
      “natural” as used in your noun form applicable to humans:
      any person or thing that is or is likely or certain to be very suitable to and successful in an endeavor without much training or difficulty.

      “natural” as used in your adjective form applicable to humans:
      not supernatural or strange: natural phenomena
      not constrained or affected; genuine or spontaneous
      not affected by man or civilization

      “nature” isn’t even applicable to humans:
      the material world, especially as surrounding humankind and existing independently of human activities.

    • Grammy

      Then there is something seriously wrong with your way of thinking. This is not appropriate for young children to see.

  • rockcut

    The book is disgusting and should be remvoed.

    • Ben Name

      barf. all those unattractive body types.

  • JT1964

    Ooy Vay. We need to show/teach our kids this? I think not. Just a great way to sexualize more children at a younger age. Boy, do we have a moral and ethical problem in this country.

    • Shifty

      show?

    • Jacob Aud

      SPEAKING OF MORALS …
      http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201311/moral-values-enrich-life/

      Moral Values That Truly Enrich

      In 2008, researchers in the United States interviewed hundreds of young adults about their views on moral values.
      “What’s disheartening is how bad they are at thinking and talking about moral issues,” said David Brooks in The New York Times. Most felt that rape and murder were wrong, but “aside from those extreme cases, moral thinking didn’t enter the picture, even when [they were] considering things like drunken driving, cheating in school or cheating on a partner.”

      As one young person put it,
      “I don’t really deal with right and wrong that often.”

      Many viewed the matter this way:
      ‘If it feels right, do it. Go with your heart.’

      Is that thinking wise?

      The human heart, while capable of great love and compassion, can also be ‘treacherous and desperate.’ (Jeremiah 17:9) This sad reality is reflected in the world’s changing moral landscape—a trend the Bible foretold. “In the last days,” it said long ago, “people will be selfish, greedy, boastful, and conceited,” as well as “unkind [and] violent.” Also, “they will hate the good” and “love pleasure rather than God.”—2 Timothy 3:1-5, Good News Translation.

      Those realities should move us to question our own heart, not blindly trust it! Indeed, the Bible frankly states:
      “He that is trusting in his own heart is stupid.” (Proverbs 28:26)

      Like a compass, our heart needs to be calibrated with sound values if it is to serve us well.

      Where can we find such values?

      Many look to the Bible itself, appreciating both its wisdom and its candor.

      • http://nortonzone.symantec.com/ Pike Juan

        Wait… What?

    • Jacob Aud

      Here is some real, practical and loving (and chaste) advice for young-ones…

      (I really would of been happier/healthier if I had this book when I was young…)

      REAL HELP FOR TEENAGERS: (“How Can I Keep My Mind Off Sex?”)
      http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/teenagers/ask/keep-mind-off-sex/

      Shun immoral entertainment.

      Much of today’s entertainment is designed to arouse improper sexual feelings. The Bible’s counsel?
      “”Let us cleanse ourselves of every defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in God’s fear.”” (2 Corinthians 7:1)

      Steer clear of entertainment that stimulates sexual desires.

      http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/teenagers/ask/keep-mind-off-sex/

    • Jacob Aud

      A VERIFIABLE AND SCIENTIFIC EXAMPLE OF PEOPLE’S MORALS/CONSCIENCE BEING MOLDED BY EXTERNAL FORCES:

      Human Conscience VERSUS Killing/Hurting Other Humans (and animals)

      I heard a talk at a Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses about how healthy humans are born with a natural God-given Conscience that makes killing another human being very difficult for a person to do. However, by doing things in our mind (TV, video games, meditation etc…) we will greatly affect people react to things in real life and will change their conscience …

      One of the examples given was in WWI the military scientists would investigate the battle field after a battle… they found that a large portion of these young men did not even fire ONE SHOT! They found that the reason was their conscience was not letting them kill a stranger/another human being…

      So, they developed training exercises to TURN OFF THIS NATURAL CONSCIENCE – the “games”/drills where the soldier walks through a simulated battle field and dummies/mannequins dressed in the enemy clothes would pop-up… BAM BAM BAM – pull the trigger, this is only a dummy and not a real person… easy enough…

      So by changing it into a game, getting the soldier acclimated to not associating this with murder of a human but rather with a game of ‘shoot those with the other colored uniform’ they were able to DEAD THEIR GOD-GIVEN CONSCIENCE… So once this trained soldier is on the battle field he does not think about ‘killing another human’ it is more of following orders and that game.

      As humans, we would rather eat, play, exchange stories, discuss culture, art ANYTHING but kill another human… So these war scientists had to turn that off… NOTE – ANYONE that enjoys killing another human is termed a Sociopath… THIS IS NOT NORMAL and is why so many veterans have serious mental issues…

  • c69101

    This is ridiculous!

  • sgtshel

    Truly time for home-schooling!

  • AG Dot Com!

    A major part of the problem here is that we as citizens have allowed bohemian academia redefine what “education” means since the late 1960s. Things like self-respect, dignity, discipline, loyalty, modesty, and anything else to do with being decent are shoved aside in our schools now. Math, reading, science, and life skills are no longer the subject of education, but just another set of vehicles to teach a progressive/socialist agenda based on the cultural void that is collegiate academia now. 1) it is our fault. 2) we can fix it. Get into PTA meetings. Get into school board meetings. Show some spine. The great majority of these socialist idiots are cowards. They back down at the first sign of aggressive action.

    • Massgopguy

      “Bohemian Academia”, that is GOLD!

      • AG Dot Com!

        Go hang out at U of M Ann Arbor for a weekend – you’ll see what I mean immediately.

        • Ben Name

          Or you could go over to Hope College for some good old Christian fun.

          • AG Dot Com!

            Ahhhhh Dear ol’ Ben. How are you this fine day?

          • Ben Name

            day’s looking brighter now that you have responded. How’s MI these days? Is Saline still a hotbed for redneck racists?

          • AG Dot Com!

            I believe you’re thinking of Fowlerville. I don’t know – why don’t you dress up in blackface and carry a rainbow flag down there after dark – I’m sure you’ll find out right away!

          • Ben Name

            Nope. Saline. I know Fowlerville. My Grandma lives there. It’s a pretty tight community and votes republican every year yet they still seem to love everyone.

            Are you from Saline?

          • AG Dot Com!

            I take it you don’t get over to Fowlerville very often… Nope, not from Saline.

          • Ben Name

            You take is kind of….wrong, as usual. Sorry, you seem like you would be from Saline.

          • AG Dot Com!

            You take is kind of…” – are you trying to make ethnic jokes, Ben? Are you being racist? You do have family in Fowlerville… and you are either pretending not to know, or don’t know, what’s from there… it’s pretty infamous…. my guess is you’re a closet racist, Ben….

            No, Ben, not Saline.

          • Ben Name

            I know you aren’t from Saline, but I’m not sure why you adamantly deny it. Care to expound?

            Ha ha, what troll logic brought you to the conclusion I was making an ethnic joke? Is it that I know your claim is wrong and that you are just making stuff up? Probably, but as my best bud around here I’ll look the other way like I do with some of your “personal” matters.

          • AG Dot Com!

            Because, Ben, I’m not from Saline. That’s the way reality is sometimes. You’re asking the wrong questions, Ben.

          • AG Dot Com!

            This is classic libtard “logic“, by the way folks… Ben asks me three separate times if I am from Saline, MI. I answer him each time, “no, I am not from Saline”. What conclusion does Ben come to? “I know you aren’t from Saline, but I’m not sure why you adamantly deny it…“.

            What Ben is trying to do here, kids, is connect me to a place (Saline, in this case) he associates with “Redneck racists” so that he can “win” his imaginary argument that, because I am a conservative, I must also be a racist.

            When he can’t do that, he is forced to re-tool his argument and insist that I must be hiding something, simply because I answered the same question the same way multiple times. This is flawed-logic “Argument from Silence” coupled with “Shifting Burden of Proof”, a common liberal/progressive couplet.

          • Ben Name

            I only asked you once if you were from Saline. The other time I said it sounded like you were. What are you reading?

            “What Ben is trying to do here, kids, is connect me to a place (Saline, in this case) he associates with “Redneck racists” so that he can “win” his imaginary argument that, because I am a conservative, I must also be a racist”

            No one listens to you except me and probably other people when you are yelling at them.

            “… I am a conservative, I must also be a racist” Ahh, you admit it!

            “…I must be hiding something, simply because I answered the same question the same way multiple times.”

            Again, I only asked once.

            Your Conservative brainwashing has led you into thinking that I am trying to trick you when it is you who is misleading people. Asked three times. Balderdash!

  • Stacie Hamilton Blair

    I would never make my children ashamed of their bodies and masturbation is completely normal, but I don’t want it being pushed on them! If they want to talk about stuff like this it should be with the parents at a higher age too. 12-14 years old or when puberty starts, not at 9-10 years (unless they start puberty at a younger age). My child is 9, fixing to go into 4th grade. This is highly inappropriate for her and her mindset. She is not old enough to comprehend this. I have had age appropriate sex talks but this is out of line. She knows what boys “look like” because she has a baby brother who is almost 5 years younger than her. She has seen him when she would help change his diapers or when he went through his streaking stage and pull off his diaper and fly through the house laughing. She knows they are different but this is absurd. Ok, Rant over.

    • kysunflower

      demonstration sex to 9 yr olds is sex abuse, and it is not normal.

    • Susan

      This destroys dignity and modesty in children, which strips sex of morality and meaning and, since kids are immature, they will be teasing and making fun of the bodies which are not relevant or the passions understood at such an age. It reduces sex to just an animal act and people as animals, like dogs, where no intimacy and romance is possible.

      It is necessary for normal sexual identity formation for children to have “Awe and Mystery” involved to produce a “dignity” in human sexuality. Without innocence—essential in Latency (6-13) when it is UNNATURAL to be focused on sex organs (only if sexually abused or incited by outside sources).

      Sexualizing our children is a modern thing and it has stripped sex of meaning and dignity and reduces it to a doggie act with no morality. We are reduced to godless animals—as Marx wants. Google Sex Ed /Lukacs/Hungary. It is intentional to destroy Virtue in children—to destroy morality and collapse cultures.

  • Barbara Braim

    I think these pictures are porn, and child pornography. The person who drew these pictures, and the teacher who showed them to the kids, should be arrested for child pornography! Also if a child decided to act out this, after being told it was normal, they would be suspended from school. 5 year olds can’t give a little girl on the cheek, without being suspended.

    • Co2

      Won’t this lead to titalizing role play on playgrounds and so on? What’s next?
      Role play between teachers on beds in front of students?

    • Jacob Aud

      Barabara Braim:
      If you think that is bad… Check out this “Common Core” reading list and contents…

      http://politichicks.tv/column/warning-graphic-common-core-approved-child-pornography/

    • Aaron Scott McKay

      So education on sex is child pornagraphy?

    • http://nortonzone.symantec.com/ Pike Juan

      There is a difference between porn and education. This is a book about sex education. Would little stick figures make you feel better?

  • Aleuicius

    No problem with a couple of pages showing the body, but anything after is “ask your folks”.
    Particularly angering tho, is the “it’s OK” regarding sex practices. Sorry academics, but you don’t have that right to determine what is “OK” for my kids. Regardless of any disclaimers, do you really think you’re not telling 9-year-old kids that SEX IS OK?

  • Gaines Bruce

    Boy education sure has changed since the formation of the Department of Education. who would have ever thought that math, English, penmanship, spelling, and writing should be a priority.

  • Co2

    Cannot a child remain a child for a few years making forts, doll houses and just plain playing before the onslaught of ‘grow up fast’ doctrine?

    • Grammy

      Apparently not as they are just too busy masturbating and having sex these days thanks to their public educations.

  • Jill

    Now maybe we can teach these kids how to handle guns in a safe manner. Have a class showing all the different kinds of guns and show them it is common for people to own these guns.Show them how to be safe while handling a gun etc. After all “It’s Perfectly Normal” to own guns!

    • Ben Name

      couldn’t agree more. It’s a good thing to know how to point a gun at another kid and mean it.

      • Jill

        No but it is good that kids understand the danger of a gun and if a friend takes his dads gun out he can check to see if it is loaded. It is good if they are tought to handle a gun in a safe manner so if they do find a gun there will be no accidental shootings. You assume all kids want to kill. In the 60s kids would take their target rifles to school in NY on the subway.

        • Ben Name

          You assume too much about me.

          “In the 60s kids would take their target rifles to school in NY on the subway.” How do you know this?

          • Jill

            You need to do your research! I do mine and you need to do yours. It is common knowledge! Your lack of knowledge is what makes you dangerous to freedoms. I assume nothing about you. I go by what you post!

          • Ben Name

            please, if you are so all knowing educate me rather then spouting nonsense.

          • Jill

            I posted 2 articles one states kids carried their target rifles on NY subways until 1969.

          • Ben Name

            I saw that and said thank you. What more do you want?

          • Jill

            I want you to become educated on the gun issue because it is the uneducated that are following the the Billionaires and Democrats to ban our guns. Below is something I sent to another person. They have just banned all long guns that hold more than 5 rounds in NY. They had been registered and the people are being told to turn them in. Read below.

            As you can see the slope is very,very “slippery”. That is why we must fight “all” gun control because the Democrats and their Billionaire friends want to disarm the common man and woman! You can not trust the courts because they do not come from the common people ,the masses. They are the elite and will stab us in the back. This has gone on throughout history. That is why the Founding Fathers gave us the Second Amendment to protect us from these tyrants. It is now 5 rounds for long guns. This means all .22 hunting rifles that are magazine fed will be banned do you realize what that means? All bolt action rifles that hold magazines are banned. All shotguns that are magazine fed are banned. Also the ones that hold 8 rounds for home defense in the tube. These guns have been “registered” and the people are getting letters to turn them in! Once all guns are registered you will not have the choice of just taking them on of state. They will be “CONFISCATED”. Get it now?

          • Jill

            want you to become educated on the gun issue because it is the uneducated that are following the the Billionaires and Democrats to ban our guns. Below is something I sent to another person. They have just banned all long guns that hold more than 5 rounds in NY. They had been registered and the people are being told to turn them in. Read below.

            As you can see the slope is very,very “slippery”. That is why we must fight “all” gun control because the Democrats and their Billionaire friends want to disarm the common man and woman! You can not trust the courts because they do not come from the common people ,the masses. They are the elite and will stab us in the back. This has gone on throughout history. That is why the Founding Fathers gave us the Second Amendment to protect us from these tyrants. It is now 5 rounds for long guns. This means all .22 hunting rifles that are magazine fed will be banned do you realize what that means? All bolt action rifles that hold magazines are banned. All shotguns that are magazine fed are banned. Also the ones that hold 8 rounds for home defense in the tube. These guns have been “registered” and the people are getting letters to turn them in! Once all guns are registered you will not have the choice of just taking them on of state. They will be “CONFISCATED”. Get it now?

          • Ben Name

            Still don’t agree. People can provide by other means. It’s time to join the present world.

          • Jill

            Your statement makes no sense

          • Ben Name

            most people claim they have fire arms for either providing food for their families or providing protection against intruders. We have other modern means for food supply and the police are there to protect us.

          • Jill

            I am glad you posted this because it shows you want all guns confiscated because people have no need for them. It means you do not believe in the right. I use people like you to show where gun control is going. Not just background checks but your agenda is confiscation. So I tell people don’t open that door because of where these folks are going.We just renewed our NRA memberships today. The lady told me that the NRA has signed up 1,500,000 new members since the Sandy Hook shooting. It is in large part because of people like you admitting where you are going with gun control.

          • Ben Name

            No, I believe that people are better then guns and that we should rise above the need for them by providing for ourselves and find ways to rid our societies of violence and crime.

            Clearly you do not understand either of those notions.

          • Jill

            You have proven you want guns confiscated. I have your statement. The reason I led you through this is to prove people that are for background checks on private gun sales also want to take your guns. I am just using you to build the NRA to defend our gun rights.

          • Ben Name

            No, once again I have to say it again. I believe that people are better then guns and that we should rise above the need for them by providing for ourselves and find ways to rid our societies of violence and crime.

            I do not see confiscated anywhere in that statement. Nor have I even suggested a method of collecting firearms from people. Please stop making things up that I said to justify your archaic point of view.

          • Jill

            You are for confiscation and you said so. Why would an anti-gun person like you even post here? It is obvious that you are trying to act like you just want a little gun control that will lead to confiscation. Why else would you post on a pro-gun place?

          • Ben Name

            You are still trying to fit the square peg in the round hole.

          • Jill

            You are anti-gun and anti- freedom!

          • Ben Name

            Nope. You just want to label me that. If that is what makes you feel better.

          • Jill

            Why do you post on a pro-gun page?

          • Ben Name

            Because I can. It’s called freedom, you know, the thing everyone who writes here has told you that you lost.

          • Jill

            The only thing that makes sense is you are an anti-gun plant trying to look like you just want reasonably gun control. What you really want is to get the beginnings of gun confiscation. Give me a reason why you post on a pro gun page when you are for gun control?

          • Ben Name

            No. you can not logically make that conclusion even in Crazytown.

            And once again, I can post here because I can.

          • Jill

            You don’t answer the question because you are an anti gunner that is trying to confuse the pro gun public. It is obvious! I have exposed you!

          • Ben Name

            You: Give me a reason why you post on a pro gun page when you are for gun control?

            me: Because I can.

          • Jill

            You are a phoney! An anti-gun plant! Can’t even answer a basic question because it would expose you for what you are. Another question. What state do you live in or I should say what country do you live in?

          • Ben Name

            I told you I never said I wanted confiscation. I respect your choice to believe what you want, I just disagree. Why can’t you respect that? Why do you need to corner me into a fight?

          • Jill

            You never answered my other questions! What state or country?

          • Ben Name

            I live in Kooskia, Idaho, United States of America. Now you want to judge me a little more?

          • Jill

            Why do you post on pro-gun page?

          • Ben Name

            because I can.

            how many times are you going to ask me?

          • Jill

            What is your reason in posting here? What are you trying to accomplish by posting on a pro-gun page?

          • Ben Name

            Just hanging with my pals, like you are.

          • Jill

            Ben’s own words! Anyone can see he is against all guns so why does he post on a pro-gun page. Read what Ben said below.

            “most people claim they have fire arms for either providing food for their families or providing protection against intruders. We have other modern means for food supply and the police are there to protect us”.

          • Ben Name

            A very true statement. Thanks for reposting it.

          • Jill

            You have proven you want guns confiscated. I have your statement. The reason I led you through this is to prove people that are for background checks on private gun sales also want to take your guns. I am just using you to build the NRA to defend our gun rights.

          • Ronald Green

            You’re wasting your time with this lib/prog. a$$hole. He’s only here to aggravate people who are actually trying to accomplish something and are more intelligent than him.

          • Jill

            Actually we need to expose people like Ben Name. There are some pro-gun people that see no harm in background checks for private gun sales. So when people like Ben post saying this is a good thing we can tell them Ben has posted he is for confiscating all guns. We can show them that even Ben sees this as a first step to take your guns. Many gun owners do not understand these checks are to register your guns. Some may even believe Ben’s propaganda. It is our job to expose the end game to all gun owners. It is the only way we can win the battle. Making Ben and people like him admit he wants to take all our guns is the best way to educate the public.

          • Jill

            I have also heard it went into the 60s.

            Dr. John Lott, author of “More Guns, Less Crime,” reports that until the 1960s, some New York City public high schools had shooting clubs where students competed in citywide shooting contests for university scholarships. They carried their rifles to school on the subways and, upon arrival, turned them over to their homeroom teacher or the gym coach and retrieved their rifles after school for target practice. Virginia’s rural areas had a long tradition of high-school students going hunting in the morning before school and sometimes storing their rifles in the trunks of their cars that were parked on school grounds. Often a youngster’s 12th or 14th birthday present was a shiny new .22-caliber rifle, given to him by his father.

          • Ben Name

            thank you for making your point fact. It is appreciated.

          • Jill

            You just don’t have the facts so your conclusions are flawed. Unless you study an issue you should not be posting because it makes you look real bad.

          • Jill

            Professor John Lott wrote this below!

            it was common for schools to have shooting clubs. Even in New York City, virtually every public high school had a shooting club up until 1969. It was common for high school students to take their guns with them to school on the subways in the morning and turn them over to their homeroom teacher or the gym coach so the heavy guns would simply be out of the way. After school, students would pick up their guns when it was time for practice.

          • Michael

            I know that I used to take my .22 to school in 3rd grade and all the boys went out “hunting” during recess and this was late 1970′s in Oregon… and I don’t remember anyone ever having a problem even on the bus. Today the swat team would be called. Society is in the toilet.

          • Ben Name

            Then flush it.

  • mperkins2

    If anyone else showed pictures like this to children they would be arrested for giving pornography to minor children. That is what they should do to all of those who masterminded this junk down to those willing to show it to their students. It seems like they are trying to make children into mindless perverts. They teach very little of anything to truly educate our children but they seem to think this is right and good for them. Parents should be knocking down the doors to this school and any others who would peddle this trash demanding they change to a curriculum that will teach and prepare our children for when they step out into the real world. There is no educational value to this type of garbage at all.

  • Richard Day

    What is next porn stars in the class room to demonstrate how to have sex in all types of relationships. Surely sex is more important than teaching them history so they do not know F.D.R. did not die yesterday.

  • Susan

    This warps and destroys the Awe and Mystery and Innocence of children, which is necessary for normal sexual identity formation.

    It corrupts their worldview of the body—focuses on sex organs, which strips morality from sex and the intimacy and privacy which is demanded for modesty—which is a Virtue.

    Lukacs (Cultural Marxist) designed Sex Ed to destroy morality in Hungary’s children. It destroys normal formation which HAS to have innocence (Rousseau) and as Freud stated the Latency period (6-13) should NEVER be interrupted with focusing on sex organs. It warps the Worldview of children and how they “see” others, their parents and people different (opposite sex). At immature ages, they are programmed to not “like” differences. It is NATURAL for the immature to like the “Same”. It is necessary for maturity so that people GROW to accept “The Other”. This destroys normal sexual identity formation and could fixate them in a immature homosexual stage—since Latency like the “same”….since it is an immature stage.

    This puts immature kids in a position of supreme humiliation and objects of teasing ONLY. They have a “herd instinct” and differences are ALWAY traumatic to children. It takes maturity to accept and ADMIRE “the Other”.

    • Debra Carey

      This is called ‘grooming’ by law enforcement when they investigate
      child molesters. Get a child comfortable with nudity and talk about sex
      and soon touching won’t seem WRONG or DANGEROUS. This is exactly what is
      taking place and parents need to stop allowing it to happen.

      • Susan

        Fathers would have seriously hurt people who exposed their school age children to this, even 20 years ago.

        It is child abuse and a destroying of innocence in children through unnatural methods. Public schools are evil….Local parental control needs to happen YESTERDAY—-and only parents pick “textbooks” which don’t have to be censored of God and Traditions and our true history.

        This is the promotion of the religion of paganism/Occultism/Satanism/muslim. They ban Christianity and its worldview, but it is the only “Faith” not allowed to shape curricula.

      • Barbara Braim

        I was a foster mother for many years. I was taught that early masturbation was a sign of sexual abuse.

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    This is Marxism to destroy morality (Virtue) in children. http://centurean2.wordpress.com/2010/12/16/radical-georg-lukacs_to-achieve-the-communist-utopia-lukacs-launched-a-graphical-radical-sex-education-program-promoting-free-love-and-promiscuity/

    The ONLY reason for education is to promote Virtue. (Excellence/Wisdom/Courage/Temperance/Justice). Socrates.

    Without Virtue, Freedom dies—-immoral people can NEVER form a “civil” society.

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  • Mys77

    What the h…? Burn this book and hunt down the pervert who puboished and designed this. This is beyond the curriculum for fourth graders, and really NOT what schools role is! I think this nothing but some pedophiles dream come true to pervert innocent kids, sexualize them early for them to fantasize about.

    • Brett MacDonald

      … You are jumping to some strange conclusions friend. Is it inappropriate? Yes. Slightly. Should they be educated on anatomical changes that will take place just around the corner in their lives? Yes. Teaching 4th graders to put on condoms is extreme and teaching them some of the other stuff mentioned is also out of line for their age. But to say the author published this for some malevolent end and that we should burn the book and hunt down the author is equally extreme and out of line. — You are violating 1st Amendment rights. It’s a slippery slope.

      • FrankC

        Your entire reply, and your attitude, condemns our children to be the targets of perversion. THAT is what this is, teaching this material to 4th grade CHILDREN is perversion. I sincerely hope there are no children relying on you for guidance, they will have a hideous experience.

        • Nelly Bear

          Perversions have existed LONG before this book was published and will continue to exist long after ~ it is unfortunate, but it is human nature. Is it better to have your children live in ignorance of what might happen to their bodies or to educate them so that they will be prepared?

          • FrankC

            So, exposing them to perversion is good? Children in the 4th grade need to be exposed to nudity, masturbation, and condoms? Any children this young, or younger, looking to you for guidance are going to be seriously messed up CHILDREN.

          • GigsUp

            It is NOT HUMAN “NATURE”, it is human PERVERSION.
            Perversion MUST be called what it is, and it must be PREVENTED.
            Try as you may to excuse it? YOU CAN’T or I should say, you SHOULDN’T.
            It is not your place to decide when to teach, who to teach, and how to teach someone else’s child about human “sexual” nature.
            Human “sexual” nature is curriculum that we should ONLY SEE in advanced studies at the collegiate level IF someone is working towards a BS/BA or masters in human studies, psychology or similar major/minor course of study… IF THEY CHOOSE THAT once they are adults.
            ENOUGH of this ideology that the state or federal government can indirectly REMOVE and TAKE AWAY the parents rights in this regard.
            WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH.

      • Mys77

        Do you know the author, the people behind this, the people who came up with the idea, the money used to publish it, them tax dollars used to buy this, without approval of parents? Yeah, my friend, you don’t know, so zip it. And it is time to burn trash when we see it… that is my right to decide what is appropriate and normal for children in my school system. Yeah, slippery slope…lol, more like a black hole of perversion. People lije you so desensitzed to evil, soon are the pushers and in denial of what is normal and helping children to act with respect and restraint!

      • Matthew O Stroben

        Your not too bright. The children are neither yours nor the governments. They are our children, and we have the “say so” on what they learn. Your of the mindset that the government needs to teach our kids and somehow that will make society better. The’re doing that in North Korea right now.. You want to move there? Think things through all the way. You know the hypocrisy of parents. They say one thing and do another. The look good is more important today then to really do good. Parents that are too lazy to take the time to really teach their children are the ones with pregnant teens. It has nothing to do with how much money you have or your level in society. Taking time to be with your children and teach them is hard work and unfortunately most people are lazy nowadays.

  • jennifer w

    now we know what is wrong with this country – all the uptight prudes who have a problem with teaching kids that their bodies are beautiful no matter what shape or form. it’s no wonder so many kids are having sex and getting pregnant, no one wants to face reality.

    • Jeff Horton

      I think teaching isn’t the problem here. It is the age and some parents want it to be THEIR choice when sex is discussed with their children. Not all kids age mentally at the same rate. It is a freedom to choose when your kids are told about sex. Freedom is about choices. And that choice has been taken away here in this case.

    • dragonflash

      That is a PARENTS job and there are PLENTY of responsible parents out there that are capable of making the decision of when and what to teach there children.

      • dragonflash

        before the grammer Nazis get here, it should be THEIR.

      • Nelly Bear

        You are correct, it SHOULD be the parents job, but so many do not or will not teach their children about body changes, sex, masturbation, that it now falls to the schools. If you do not like what the children are learning, we live in a country that allows us to express our thoughts, just as you have here.

        • BKennedy

          Please do make the argument assigning positive value to teaching children that masturbation is morally neutral and physically desirable in a classroom setting.

          We all want to hear it. It’s in an entirely different category than teaching the functions of the reproductive system and the fluid dynamics of the urinary tract.

        • Grammy

          You are wrong, it does not fall to the schools to teach this. The schools are interfering into a parents responsibility because it is part of their liberal agenda to do so and not out of necessity.
          If parents to not want their children to be taught about this type of perversion, and that is what it is, they can opt to pull them out and homeschool them which is something I strongly urge them to do.

        • dragonflash

          Just because some parents don’t know how or want to educate their children does not mean it is okay for this to be taught to 4th graders. NO child in the 4th grade should be exposed to this. Maybe in the 8th or 9th depending on the child.

    • Deb

      Yeah, all the STDs, teenage pregnancies, abused and suicidal kids and predatory pedophiles masquerading as teachers are the fault of “uptight prudes.”
      Leftist logic.

      • Matthew O Stroben

        I called her a slut. She probably is one that will have a pregnant teenager.

        • Deb

          And you and I will be paying the taxes for their upkeep.

          • Matthew O Stroben

            True the way the system is right now, but it is unsustainable. If I had it my way then the families would have to pay for it themselves. Welfare should be a temporary fix. Both parties though are allowing free trade to take all the jobs that those without education could have other then at fast food places. this needs to be changed. We just have to weather the storm.

    • Sharon

      It is not other people responsibility to teach MY children about sex.

    • Matthew O Stroben

      You know whats wrong with this country? YOU! People like you who truly have no beliefs or are just so plain stupid they don’t understand. So in your mind the children deserve to have sex and we are just mean? Well I will let your slutty family teach that to your children. Through the ages we always had sluts, never thought they would try and teach our children to be one. Please leave mine alone!Messed up people like you have no business trying to tell the rest of us what to do.

  • Guest

    Everything about this book is disturbing and just downright ugly. How much longer are parents going to allow school officials to continue to academically rape and molest their children? No child should have to be forced to look at a book like that. Any parent that doesn’t see anything wrong with this must be void of any feelings and is merely a “walking dead” cold person. Liberals have become so obsessed with their crotches, it’s as if they’re sexually OCD and from the looks of this book, whoever wrote and illustrated this trash is very much sexually and mentally disordered. Sad that children are having this garbage shoved down them at younger and younger ages.
    Parents really ought to be teaching their kids about human sexuality not the government schools. Parents who are squeamish or shy, need to grow up and get with the program. If these dimwits are having sex they should be able to talk to their kids. It’s a ridiculous notion that such an excuse was ever allowed in the first place to introduce “Compulsory sex education” because now it’s pushing homosexuality and gender bending distortions and lifestyles that do nothing but confuse the heck out of school children.
    To borrow a line from the “That’s so gay” commercials airing all over the place, hey so-called educators and liberals “KNOCK IT OFF” and leave the kids alone! This book is “So gay.”

  • Me Again

    all morality has to be destroyed under totalitarian governments geld & emasculate the men, morally degenerate the girls, I TOOK MY KIDS OUT OF PUBLIC SCHOOL FOR THIS REASON

    • bdaniel230

      Read the planks of the American Communist Party in 1960. It is all there, Glenn Beck is a bit of a loon but even a blind squirrel will find an acorn from time to time.

      This is a link for the Representative from Florida, Jan 10, 1963. Back in the 60′s PBR would broadcast the doings of the House and Senate for a period of time every week. This was on one day and I remember hearing it in my social studies class.

      http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

      • Me Again

        ACP WAS CHANGED TO PROGRESSIVE CAUCUS WHEN CLINTON WAS IN OFFICE, I HAVE READ THE TEN PLANKS OF MARXISM, WHAT REALLY GETS TO ME IS HERE IN AZ WHERE I LIVE GRIJALVA IS A CARD CARRYING COMMUNIST & NO ONE CARES, THE INDOCTRINATION STARTED IN THE ’60S I WAS IMMUNE TIL THEN AS I WENT TO CATHOLIC SCHOOL

        • bdaniel230

          My parents were very involved in government, both had worked for local and federal bureaucracies. They took me to a lecture, argument, between a Conservative and a member of the ACP. When it was over I realize just how screwed this country would be if one of them were ever elected to the Presidency.
          Can you say Obamunist? I knew that you could.

      • Me Again

        Grijalva & Ellison r the spokesmen for the Progressive Caucus and these are the same goals for the progressive party PPL NEED TO WAKE UP, ALTHOUGH KIDS R INDOCTRINATED FROM BIRTH AND PARENTS ARE STUPID

  • Sillysally

    Wow. When I was in 4th grade, as a very quiet little girl, this would have been like being raped. It is the same as being raped in their minds. What is wrong with parents and teachers today?

    • bdaniel230

      Laziness and the willingness to see Progressivism put into every corner of society. Teachers because they are told by the unions that this is a good thing, administration because it is a way to get more money out of the Federal Government, Parents because it is easier to just ignore what the schools and government does than to fight for your children.

  • cmbubbles1103

    I would be enraged if this was in my daughters school at such a young age. There are just some things kids don’t need to know. WTF are we teaching our kids………So help the school system if I ever catch them trying to teach my child about masturbation…. In my opinion parents should still have the right to have “The Talk” with THEIR kids, when they find THEIR kids are ready for it. How dare the schools decide what is best for OUR children….INSANITY….I am disgusted by this

    • dragonflash

      Oh this is NOT the worst that common core has. The reading for junior and high school is horrible! it talks about pedophilia, rape and incest in great detail. This crap has to be stopped. Even if you don’t think this is in your school, please go and check to see what is in classrooms and libraries!

      • blueyedone13

        I’ve been trying to fight this battle w/little success so far. When I learned abt the book they were reading in my son’s class I spoke w/the teacher (lib of course) & he’s like,”well, this keeps the kids interested and deals w/the problems of today,” the book dealt w/a lot of racial crap including the “n” word (my son’s 1/2 black btw) and lots of other language. Then they studied a rape case where 5 black guys were accused of raping a white woman and I guess it was unjustified or something..but my son was afraid to even tell me abt that one..and I’m like wtf am I supposed to do when the damn people at the school either don’t see a problem w/it or just give u some b.s. line abt it being approved by some group abv them? I even talked to the principal..like talking to a damn programmed brick! I can’t homeschool cuz I work and my son dsn’t really want to be homeschooled..we did try it once and it didn’t work..my son has 4 yrs to go..I’m so afraid of what’s going to be taught in H.S.!!

        • Grammy

          That is awful sick stuff!! Please do not give up on homeschooling your son. He may not be interested but as parents we have to make decisions for our children that we know are best for them whether they realize it or not. We go through Connections Academy which is a public school but online. Anytime we come up on a questionable subject, we explain the truth about it or just skip over it. We know what the topic is about before my granddaughter sees it. You can even sit down with him and do it after work. There is no set schedule when you can do the work. This way you can monitor exactly what he is doing. Anything is better than what he is learning now.

  • ed28

    The idiots who pushed this material onto 4th graders should be dragged into the streets and beat with baseball bats.

    • AG Dot Com!

      That thought should upset me … but, it doesn’t ….

      • Ben Name

        retracted.

        • dragonflash

          look who the reply was too. wasn’t about the CHILDREN

          • Ben Name

            thanks!

        • AG Dot Com!

          Nobody likes you, Ben………

          • Ben Name

            ahh, if you mean by the majority of people who post here then you are right. Should that make me have a sad heart? no.

      • ed28

        War is war!

    • Grammy

      Better yet, remove all the liberals from society to a deserted island and let them drive each other crazy until they all die off.

      • ed28

        Yep! That too.

  • khsmith

    As I have spent time in gender studies at school, I have seen this book for years. It was primarily originally promoted by Planned Parenthood (see link here). It is not difficult to see the connection and unfortunate agenda at play.

    http://www.plannedparenthood.org/parents/its-perfectly-normal-30412.htm

  • Nasty

    If Parents could be trusted to teach this information, then the book is not needed.
    Sadly, parents cannot be trusted to teach their own children.
    I had to figure all this out on my own. My parents were useless when it came to this.
    I have a friend that wasn’t taught about the changes to her body until her first period.
    Just a bit LATE don’t you think.
    I understand that this will outrage many. Likely the same parents that would FAIL to teach their own kids.

    • rosepetal57

      It’s a bit too graphic, and TMI @ too early an age. Maybe 6th grade? … and although many things are “normal”, SOME are NOT, and I think the teaching should be kept to basic anatomy & biological functions, purely FACTS. I think this type of thing would be a diversion to learning w3hat they critically need to learn at that age for many.

      • Nasty

        A good example of the problem is that I have written the name for the offending organ here, and it is awaiting “moderation”. This is a Problem.

    • jake

      If you think that this book is ok for 4th graders you are definitely sick…Get help.

      • Nasty

        I pity your ignorant and uneducated children.

    • Laticia

      Who can’t trust the parents to do their job. I didn’t take anything other than the basic you are going to get a thing called a period when I was 10 years old. My mother was in the classroom with me and we talked about it later that night. I didn’t take about number classes and opted out of every e and my parent streaked when the school decided that boys and girls needed to be together in sex ed in Ninth grade so I missed that on as well. Guess what…I didn’t get pregnant before I got out of high school and even managed to get my degree and get married before I had my first child. I was not the only kid that missed those classes. Just so you know…none of us had any issues with teen pregnancy or STDs. However all teen pregnancies in my high school were by kids who did take the sex ed classes. Go figure.

      • Nasty

        You had good parents! congratulation.
        Your Mother was with you. You should count yourself as onr=e on=f the fortunate few.
        As I stated, I received no such instruction.
        My friend received no such instruction.
        Now for people like my friend and myself, our parents did not teach us.
        We had no classes of any kind.
        I learned about sex by trying it out at 18.
        My friend didn’t know about a “period” until she started bleeding on herself at School.
        What do you have to say about our Parents?
        My point is that not all people have it as good as you did!
        What about US?
        What about those like us today?
        Do you simply condemn us to fall through the crack?

    • Matthew O Stroben

      Speak for yourself. If the parents aren’t teaching this it should be brought up to the parents and they should be the ones to make a choice. The government doesn’t own our children. They will find that out at the point of a gun if need be. And you say because of one friend? That’s the luck of the draw. its not the teachers place or government to teach are kids inappropriate things. Seems society did much better before your type of thinking. And you know I taught my daughter this stuff way before. If you want to help raise our children let the community do it not the government. Surveys still show 75%-85% of the people in this nation consider themselves Christians. It’s just our educated socialist minority that thinks they can fix things using the government. They seem to have the biggest mouths and control the media.

      • Grammy

        Exactly! If Nasty and all the other liberals want to help raise our children, I need money for shoes, clothes, college, sports activities and many other things. You want to help…help where its needed or stay the hell out my business!

        • Matthew O Stroben

          I was going to say that too. I understand I was being pretty mean when it comes to the friend of his that didn’t know about her period. Truth is we can teach them that in separate classes in school. I was going to say life is unfair and some children have rich parents and some poor. Should we even the field and give the poor children’s parents money and food.. Sounds like socialism. Still don’t think he will understand your analogy though.

      • Nasty

        I do speak for myself. If YOU knew how to read you would have been able to figure that much out.
        How is it going to be “brought up” that kids are not getting the info at home? Humm.
        How are YOU going to know?
        Again, if you understood English, you would have understood that some parents do not teach at home.
        So where are their children going to get this information?
        —————————————-
        So you condemn those with bad parents (you know some) to remain uneducated and ignorant?
        That is your answer? ————– It is the luck of the draw?
        My friend didn’t find out that she was supposed to have a “period” until she started bleeding in the hall of her school !
        Your answer is that it is the ——— “luck of the draw”?
        Her Mother was a Christian. My friend left the faith BECAUSE of her Mother and what she did to her.
        ————————————————
        Oh and as for people “like me”—–
        I voted for John McCain. I voted for Mit Romney.
        I have voted for the “Republican” ever since Jimmy Carter made a fool of himself in the 70s.
        —————————————————
        So I am very likely a lot like YOU.
        ——————————————-
        I’m likely a great deal more intelligent however than you, judging by your answer that —- “it is the luck of the draw” —- and you are just FINE with children remaining ignorant if their parents are also ignorant.
        ——————————-
        YOU give Conservatives AND Christians a bad name.

        • Matthew O Stroben

          If I know English? Doesn’t seem you know any. Is this your second language? People with limited understanding like you should not try to argue with those that know what they are talking about. You completely missed the point on everything. Really not worth arguing with you as you seem somewhat stupid. Do you Know what analytical thinking is? We have to fix the parents not the children. The best we can do is teach them better tools to deal with life. You really shouldn’t blame Christianity for what one person did. You sir think too much of yourself! You are not very bright. have you ever had an IQ test? You made good decisions on who you voted for but I wonder if you just voted the party line. Many democrats do that to. You simply do not understand that it is not your place to teach my children (family) your morals.

          P.S.
          you should take some writing classes.

          • Matthew O Stroben

            If you still don’t understand I will try and make it simpler for you next time.

          • Nasty

            I see no difference between you and the uneducated Liberals that I argue with.
            Is that simple enough for you to understand?

          • Matthew O Stroben

            Listen we are in an argument that is very simple to fix. Do you believe in communism? Socialism? Then why do you believe children are ignorant? My daughter is 12 and they taught her about periods at school. that is fine. They this in grade school. What we don’t want is our schools teaching them how to masturbate or how to use a condom.

          • Nasty

            As I stated above, I was a Soldier for 20 years. 1985 until 2005. What your take away from that is this; most of that time was known as the “Cold War”. This was a time when Communism was the enemy.
            Let me be more direct. Communism is the enemy. Socialism is the enemy. Simple enough? I believe in a small Federal Government and separation of Church and state.
            That is the answer to your first question.
            Why do I believe children are ignorant is your second question.
            Because as children they don’t have the needed experience to be thought of as educated. For this conversation, “educated” is the opposite of “ignorant”. I was in charge of “adults” during my time in the Army. Many of them could also be called “ignorant” (your word) judging by how many of them made simple mistakes and got themselves into trouble.
            I have just answered your two questions.
            You interjected that we don’t need “our schools teaching them how to masturbate”. I agree with you on that. After all, you pretty much figure that out on your own. So we also agree about “masturbation”.
            By problem with you is this; you condemn an entire program because you disagree with one part of that program.
            I did not receive any education when I was in school about sex education. Nor did I get this needed training at home. I am not a “special” case.
            Based on that, I believe that sex education is needed. Not all parents are willing or able to give this education. It is good that you are, but not all children have good parents. Surely you understand the truth of that statement. If you don’t, then you haven’t looked outside your own family. My parents were good people. They were just not good at passing on education. As I said before, I am not a “special” case. Your answer was that “some will just fall through the cracks”. I find that to be unacceptable.

          • Matthew O Stroben

            certainly teach it as a science perhaps but boys and girls should be in different classes to save them from embarrassment. And the age should be more like 7th grade. I have neighbors that are idiots but they still know to use a condom. My question is what didn’t you know that harmed you? Like I said in earlier posts most children already know about protection and that sex gets them pregnant.. btw I went into the natl guards in 82′. wish I would have gone reg army though.

          • Nasty

            I think the age should be about 10 or 11. Absolutely no later. They are still young enough to see it as a lesson to be learned. At 12 or 13, they have some understanding and you are fighting that.
            I don’t know if it could be said that I was “harmed”. But I was held back from a fuller understanding of what the future would be. I was raised by two parents that were Southern Baptist. (nothing wrong with that) Dad taught me how to work hard. No “talks” of any kind, about anything, other than work hard. Mom “kind of” gave me a “talk” when I was EIGHTEEN. Basically she told me that I was going to start getting interested in “girls”. (she meant well but she was many years too late for that talk)
            Then she scared the (____) out of me by saying that “we are Southern Baptist and we get married only once, so we are careful picking a partner”. Fine. All fine. But I didn’t know anything about “girls”. How am I supposed to “pick” anything with no background knowledge what so ever?
            I was woefully unprepared for life by the time I finished high school. Since I didn’t like the idea of being forced to stay with the wrong person (if I picked wrongly) I never married, until just last year for the first time at 57. Wish me luck.
            I’m going to put a line down here, because I want this to stand out from the rest. I’m not writing a book here, I’m having a conversation. I took English comp I and II in college.
            ——————————————
            On more than one occasion I have thought how different (better?) I and my life would be, if I could go back and visit myself in high school once. Just one conversation with the younger me. It would have helped. I did not have a mentor. Basically I learned how to interact by watching TV when it was still B/W.
            If it hadn’t been for Football in high school, I wouldn’t have had a social life at all. That was back in the 70s. Just one conversation with someone that could have told me just exactly what was life supposed to be after high school, as in what to expect in general. I had NOT A CLUE.
            My wife wants a “baby”. I’m not “young” at 58. So if she and I bring one into this world, I am damned sure going to make sure that (he or she) has a full knowledge base by the beginning of the teen years. And quality time with Daddy is going to be lifting weights (boy or girl). Just some thoughts on the future.

          • Matthew O Stroben

            I think we can agree on that. just more of a medical “how we make babies” and what people do so they do not have one when not ready.Good luck on having a new baby. All I can say is make sure you stay healthy and don’t listen to everything the doctors say if you ever get something they call a autoimmune disorder, I have pretty much kept myself healthy even though I have had hep c since I was 14 and all the cells that produce insulin are destroyed. Worse thing is the type one diabetes now. but even at 50 I have a 12 year old daughter that needs me, and I don’t want her to be fatherless even when she’s in her 20′s.

          • Nasty

            We do agree. Thanks for the encouragement and good luck to you and yours. Take care!

          • Nasty

            Sorry, but this program does not understand when I indent four spaces at the beginning of a new paragraph. That was the reason I used the lines. I would have thought you bright enough to figure that one out. Seems I gave you too much credit.

          • Matthew O Stroben

            You don’t need to indent. These are comments. You just need to make what you are saying clear.

          • Nasty

            So tell me what you did not understand.

    • Dale H Brown

      Nasty—Who do you think should be the “Supervisor” to parents to make sure they explain to their children the facts of life , sex and their bodies?? Some gov’t bureaucrat like the present administration would assign so the kids of this country can be good little follow the BS they are now spreading in the USA??
      It is no one’s business what parents choose to teach or not to teach their kids about sex and the rest–

      • Grammy

        Very well said Dale, you used much more restraint than I would have. Its people like this that are confusing the next generation of children.

      • Nasty

        Parents should not NEED to be “supervised”.
        But the sad fact is that some should be. Mine should have been.
        My friend that didn’t know she was supposed to HAVE a period, until she started bleeding in the school hall…HER Mother should have been “supervised”.
        When we talk – to this day – it comes up in conversation.
        She is in her 40s and I’m in my 50s.
        Both of us wish we had been taught SOMETHING about it at an early age.
        The older boys were MY teachers.
        Is that BETTER for you?
        I was referring to those parts of the body by their slang terms through high school.
        Is that BETTER for YOU?
        ————————————————–
        So it is no one business if some people don’t get a correct education?
        OK.
        I see you are in favor of continuing ignorance of the next generation.
        I have nothing to add to someone that enjoys ignorance as much as you do.

        • Dale H Brown

          Nasty –you can call me ignorant if you want to, but just because you are upset at your parents for not teaching you about life , you shouldn’t insult people with different opinions–For your info I am 80 , will be 81 in April,, Have lived much longer than you , my parents did not have that big talk about the facts of life with me either ( by the way I am a male), however I did not become a teacher to any teen age girl either not did I experiment when I found out about all the feelings I had concerning girls and sex– if you experimented in those days, it was because you wanted to , it was not your parents fault or anyone else’s–you could have said no—please don’t blame everyone else for your failure to say no—

          • Nasty

            I did not “call” you ignorant. You must be precise. I said that you enjoy ignorance. Two very different meanings. How is my differing opinion, an insult. That is what happens when two people express differing opinions. You have not lived “much” longer than myself. I am 58. Will be 59 in October. You are the same age as my Mother.
            I see you are confused. “my failure to say “no”‘? I am a 58 year old MAN. I am not a woman. (nothing wrong with being a woman).
            I did not “experiment” in those days. I’m not even sure what you mean by that statement. You must be more “specific”. What do you mean?
            It is obvious to me that you have no clue what or who you are talking to.
            The “older boys” that I referred to were the guys I played Football with. I was a Nose Guard and sometime Linebacker in High School.
            I spent 20 years in the Army and retired.
            ———————————————————–
            If you thought I was a “girl”, then you really needed to have some sex education, many years ago.
            ———————————————————-
            It is quite CLEAR, that your parents did not have that talk with you. It is also quite clear that you never had that talk at all, with anyone.
            Which also means that, as I said before, you enjoy continuing this ignorance. It is obviously your way of living.
            I am absolutely amazed that you thought I was a “girl”. You proved my point for me.
            Sex education is very much needed, and has been for quite a few generations.
            I am just amazed!

          • Dale H Brown

            Nasty–Sorry I mistook you for a girl– but the way you wrote your post you sounded as though you were –and my sex education had nothing to do with my interpretation of your post–
            No, My parents did not have that talk with me , but I don’t blame them for that –things were much different socially when I was growing up–I doubt if any of the kids I grew up with had that chat with their parents–
            You don’t see any difference in our ages ?? you will be 59 in Oct and I will be 81 in April–to me that is quite a difference in age –22 years is quite a difference –in my opinion–By the time you were born I had seen combat in Korea with the 1st Marine Division and was back in the States after serving in Japan and had a 2 year old daughter and a baby son–so you are not the only one that has been around a little bit—Anyway , I do thank you for serving our country and retiring after 20 years –I only served 10 years , but that was enough for me –
            I don’t think my post proved any point on sex education at all –if you had written it more form a viewpoint that sounded male then maybe I would have seen it –but ti really did sound like it came form a female — specially the info about that friend of yours–
            Ignorance ?? I don’t think I have lived all these years without learning a few things–specially about sex and all that is combined in that one word—but at my age it is not very important to me — so I will l continue living in ignorance as long as the good LORD will allow me–one thing though Nasty–why don’t you use your real name when you post –I do –

          • Nasty

            Dale, you are the only one that has thought I was a girl. You are not the only one that I have responded to.
            So it is you Dale..
            Older boys teach younger boys Dale. They don’t teach “girls”.
            You must learn to be “specific” with your words Dale. I did not say there is no difference in our ages.
            The difference is not large.
            Oh and since you “assumed” I was a “girl”, we cannot assume there is any inherent “wisdom” connected with simply not dying, or getting older.
            My Mother is a great example of this. She is a sweet woman at 82. But she has zero experience with anything unless it is baking or flowers. So outside of those two areas, she has the knowledge base of a 10 year old.

          • Dale H Brown

            Nasty –Where I came from older boys did not teach younger boys-it was the girls, –as for your opinion of your Mother’s knowledge , you should be ashamed of yourself for ridiculing her like that –with your attitude she is probably the only one that cares about you-
            22 Years is quite a difference in age , as I have said before , if anyone gets smarter by living longer , I don’t know, don’t care much one way or another—
            I can see 20 years I the army didn’t do you any good what so ever–I would bet you were not too well liked by your fellow soldiers-I am glad I did not have to serve in the same outfit
            Are you homosexual??your older boys teaching younger boys seems that is kind of in that way—Just asking-not accusing—one thing too I don’t have
            female friends that discuss their periods with me , that is why I figured you were a female in you post–
            One last thing–you did choose the right name for yourself—is it for your attitude about everyone else or s because you are just a nasty person in all ways ??
            I don’t think I will waste any more time on you or your posts–you have too much hate I you –

          • Nasty

            Dale I like sex with women. You seem to be really lost on the subject of sex.
            I have a wife so she is absolutely not.
            I received the “Good Conduct” award every time I was eligible for it. Plus numerous awards for achievement.
            “Teach” refers to what the guys talk about in the locker room after Football practice Dale. You seem to have some “issues” of your own. Do you not know any “normal people Dale? It doesn’t sound like you do.
            So what (exactly) were you teaching these “younger” girls Dale? Hummm…
            Feel free to take your ignorance and personal issues elsewhere Dale. It is obvious that your experience level is less than “desirable”.
            It is encouraging that you had an older high school girl teach you about sex Dale H. Brown. Did this happen in the “playground”? I only had the help of a girl “my own age”.
            Goodbye.

          • Dale H Brown

            Nasty –I was not going to bother with another post , but will waste a little more time with you
            You told one poster your were not married and now you say to me your are ,which of us are you lying to ??–
            You waited til you were close to 30 years old to join the army?? Sounds fishy to me —I doubt that you ever did retire out–
            Issues ?? no, no issues here , the only issue I have is what that Kenyan is doing in DC and his stooges —Normal people, all the folks I know are normal,, compared to a lot of folks who are not , but then I am no headshrinker like you pretend to be –
            It sounds as though you have an inferiority complex and so being with a nasty attitude about everything it makes you feel better about yourself–
            I have read some of your other posts and they are the same as you post to me –negative as can be –
            Good conduct awards –nice , but that doesn’t mean you made many friends if you were army–Cold War –yes I know about it –not a lot of combat in it though, unless you were Special Forces , SEALs or Marines—
            You and I are from different times Nasty–you weren’t even a gleam in your old man’s eye, when I was already experiencing life to the max—that was in Korea carrying a BAR–so I can’t see any advice from you would do me any good at all –
            You should try to be a little less nasty , you might make a friend or two along the way –

  • Lisa Whytock

    I would be so pissed off as a parent and just not allow it. I homeschooled at the right time. I took my kids out of the school system early.

  • pastoredsmith

    Oh. My. God. This is totally insane! Let’s over-sexualize our kids and help them screw up their life (pun intended). Get them sexually active at a young age, remove the “mystery” of human sexuality in marriage; thereby stealing the real pleasure between a loving man and woman in marriage. Those who likened America to Sodom and Gomorrah are being proven correct.

    • Deb

      Those poor kids are never going to be able to “un-see” what the teachers are showing them. Some commentators below are right on the mark when they call this “recruitment” or “grooming.”

  • Michael Keplinger

    I don’t know why everyone is so upset by this. In my opinion its a good thing. 4th graders are at the point where they are going to be hitting puberty soon. They need to know what nude bodies are going to look like and what kind of desires they are going to start to have aka “sex”. Nudity is such a natural thing but yet society makes it into a taboo. If children are exposed to this earlier than their awkward years won’t be as awkward.

    • Big Giant Head

      Jerry Sandusky agrees with you.

    • Sharon

      School is exactly the WRONG place for this. Nobody has the right to tell someone else’s children what is right and/or wrong about their body.

    • Mumoftwo

      I think these are discussions that are meant for the parents and the child not the teacher and definitely not in a classroom setting like that. There is a difference about learning of the human body and puberty versus showing 4th graders how to put condoms on and how to masturbate. Again those are conversations for the parent and child to have. I would be beyond pissed and infuriated if my son’s teacher taught him these things without my knowledge. That is inappropriate discussion for the teacher to have with my kid or any kid that isn’t their own.

    • Ashley

      It’s the PARENT’S JOB to educate about sex. NOT strangers.

      • Matthew O Stroben

        Right on!

    • Johnny

      4th graders are only 9 years old. This belongs in Junior high more like the 8th grades, when children are at the beginnings of the teen years.

    • blueyedone13

      That you would even think it’s ok for another person to teach your child abt sex to this level is absurd and the problem with a society that has lost it’s morals..this is so disturbing and yet u see no problem w/this..it’s completely disgusting

    • Matthew O Stroben

      If they don’t know they are dumb as a brick or have the worst parents ever. The point is we don’t show these things to children that age. There is such a thing called propriety, if we show children these things we are teaching them morals many parents don’t believe in. Do you want the schools teaching your children things you don’t agree with? Most teen pregnancies are because of parenting not knowledge. They see what their parents do, what they believe in and what parents allow children to do. We give them rules to protect them not to be mean. Parents need to stop being children’s friends.

  • Big Giant Head

    This is sexual abuse/grooming. Nothing more and those promoting this should be prosecuted.

    • raythemixer

      I think you meant executed

  • jake

    Is it any wonder why so many Americans are now home schooling their kids? But I’m surprised a state like Tennessee; which has an overwhelming majority of great and decent Americans would allow this crud in any school within their state’s borders. Maybe it’s time to raise up the Confederate Flag again.

    • RLJR1

      THEY DONT KNOW THE TEACHERS ARE TOLD TO SHUT THE FUC* UP OR LOSE THEIR JOBS BETWEEN THE GOVT. AND THE UNIONS THIS COUNTRYS SCREWED

  • bdaniel230

    Could this be a reason we need Planned Parenthood and state provided contraception for young ladies and no parental approval needed.
    Nahh, that is just right wing stupidity, what was I thinking? The reason we need State Provided Contraception and Planned Parenthood is because we aren’t teaching masturbation correctly.
    Liberals are destroying our society and everyone is buying in because they are too damn lazy to be parents and citizens.

    • grannaj

      Ditto bdaniel !!!

  • Criss Bossert

    Ok? I learned bout this when I was roughly 14. It’s nothing new and nothing that isn’t on the street,tv,movies,music hell even Facebook.

    • Ashley

      That doesn’t mean it should be pushed in public education. What you watch is up to your parents. Sorry they don’t care you watch garbage or moderate your activity on FB. It’s the PARENT’S JOB to educate about sex. NOT strangers.

      • ChristianParent

        I totally agree with this. All my kids knew (and know) that when they will be attending “Family Life” I will write them a note to have them excused. But it’s tough to stay on top of all the crap shoved at them in public schools. Time to go back to homeschooling.

        • Grammy

          Amen! Way past time.

      • Criss Bossert

        Most parents today don’t watch their children. Most parents today are children themselves. There is nothing wrong with a educational building doing what they are suppose to do. Teach.

        • Grammy

          I am a teacher and my job is to teach academic subjects such as math, science, language arts and so on. Not sexual or moral matters such as this. Public schools have decided they have a right to raise other peoples children and force their own agenda’s on them and it is not right and should not be allowed. Parents have every right to rally against this type of so called education of their children.

          • Criss Bossert

            Ok wait wait wait lemme make sure I have this straight.

            It is perfectly fine to teach students the wrong meanings of the Bill of Rights,To give up on certain students,To not try to help those that are having issues,To punish students that actually did the right thing,To allow the actual bad students to run free.To allow a bully to keep on bullying others and then punish the student that defended a victim.

            Oh even better. It is perfectly fine to tell a concerned parent that if he hits one of your students because another student pushed him/her out infront of your truck.

            Or allow me to quote the wonderful officer and school officals that I reported it too.

            ” Oh well you hit them. Should not have been playing in traffic. ”

            But it is not alright to allow students to view a book that has a dick in it?

            Or is it just not allowed when it doesn’t pertain to history?

    • RLJR1

      ARE YOU CRAZY ITS A 4TH GRADE BOOK PUT INTO THE SCHOOLS BY OBAMAS DEMOCRATIC COMMUNIST PARTY OUT TO DESTROY AMERICA AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU THINK ITS OK

      • imblonde22

        this book was first published in 1994 well b4 Obama became President

        • Della Thorne

          So? Now it’s going to be used on a grand scale. I’m not blaming #obama, I am however blaming liberals and perverts thinking this is acceptable. Now, who was president in 1994 and just who stands to benefit from this travesty called a presidency?
          Look who is the “secretary of education” and be honest with yourself on who he is, what he has said, and what he wants and tell me this wasn’t in the liberal wings just waiting to bit us all in our collective asses..because we the United States is dying and a remark such as this shows you don’t even get it. *shaking head*

        • ChristianParent

          So … there is all sorts of crap that was developed decades ago. But it’s who is facilitating it’s entry into the schools NOW … that matters. So this doesn’t excuse this administration at all. He is promoting all sorts of sick causes that were developed when he was a kid … ever heard of Saul Alinsky? I don’t believe he ever met him, but he’s certainly his advocate.

          • imblonde22

            Sounds like a horrible guy……..
            In the course of nearly four decades of political organizing, Alinsky received much criticism, but also gained praise from many public figures. His organizing skills were focused on improving the living conditions of poor communities across North America. In the 1950s, he began turning his attention to improving conditions in the African-American ghettos, beginning with Chicago’s and later traveling to other ghettos in California, Michigan, New York City, and a dozen other “trouble spots”.

          • Sunnydaze

            LOL Love to see WHERE you got that quote from. Oh nevermind I found it, on WIKIPEDIA. That explains everything.

    • Paula Perry

      well, hopefully, you were not 14 in the Fourth Grade.

    • Ann Francis

      Criss Bpssert Schools are supposed to be a place of learning, not picking up street smarts.

  • RB

    Liberals pushing deviant lifestyles.

  • futurelife

    and you wonder why we have teen pregnancies and rape of our youth… perverts are being created by our government schools systems.

    • imblonde22

      i would argue that teen pregnancies happen because people dont know the proper way to protect themselves because no one ever told them

      • Sunnydaze

        And I would argue that teen pregnancies happen because abstinence is not taught. That and being an unwed mother is socially acceptable now. Show me the stats where this type of education prevented a pregnancy. I would further argue that teaching this to an 8 year old only increases their natural curiosity thus the younger and younger pregnancies. The blame lays with the parents, no doubt, but it is still not within the school’s purview to decide that this is acceptable curriculum. Combine this type of book with the new gender nonspecific restrooms and I predict major problems.

    • Nici Davis

      In Europe they teach young teens (tweens) this way, they have less of everything you named. Teaching kids to respect and know their bodies and others bodies is not a bad thing. Teaching that masturbation is wrong, or sinful, can make teens feel as though they are dirty and wrong, it messes with their mind and screws them up.

      • Ann Francis

        Nicci Davis, again, some evidence please.

        • Nici Davis

          Uhm. . . how about actual Germans and Europeans telling me. . . Plus why don’t you google it??
          Seriously thoguh, foreign studies makes the common American not seem like an idiot.

      • Ima Independent

        It should be up to parents what their children are taught outside of reading, writing and arithmetic! It is not the schools job nor the governments. Liberals have brain washed you into thinking they know best and you are willing to give everything over to them. That is tragic.

        • Nici Davis

          You don’t know me, nor do you know my life, or my struggles. I speak from personal experience, I speak from living 18 years in a house hold that repressed me so much I am STILL learning to be independent. I am STILL struggling to shake off the brainwashing I received! I was actually brainwashed into the Conservative side, right of right of right. Got my ass beat for arguing that gay people had the right to get married. Got my ass beat for disagreeing with anything that I voiced that was not in accordance with “conservative morals”. I learned respect boy-howdy but at a cost for my own personality, for my own thoughts. Brainwashed into a stupid, uninterested, over pampered American.
          I’ve seen how people who are ignorant end up, I’ve almost experienced the worst of it.
          As soon as I moved out and started to think for myself that I realized that. . . “Hey as a fellow human being I disagree”
          So as a person with a conservative past, with now, an open mind. I tell you this is a good idea.

      • Alleena

        Do some homework Nici. Check and see how bleak the future of Europe is. I would not want to live there.

        • Grammy

          Exactly! Europe is very liberal minded and I would never want or encourage anyone to emulate them or people of that type of mindset.

        • Nici Davis

          And that is why most of Europe not only has less STD’s, but also less teen pregnancy, more stable mental health in general and just plain happy people.
          Plus most of Europe is out of the repression too. . . like seriously. Germany alone has been out of the ‘repression’ for about two or three years. I’m not entirely sure where you are getting your information from. . .
          Oh and plus. . . repressed people = perverts. When people are repressed and confused it becomes frustration then anger. . . then violence . . . unless they are sick.

      • Sunnydaze

        Nici you have every right to your opinion but when you start making statements as fact you are doing a great disservice to everyone. And your credibility ends up in the crapper. You really need to do some research before making statements of fact.

        • Nici Davis

          Like what? “Most adults masturbate”
          “Europe is a better place”
          “Sunshine grows unicorns in fields of assure flowers and tiny kittens”?
          I can only speak from personal experiance, I do not go around spouting lies. I know for a FACT Europe teaches Sex Ed young. I know for a FACT they have less teen pregnancy. I know for a FACT that there are countries who are MUCH better off than America is. Not just with sexual health, but also mental.

    • Ima Independent

      You are so right. 90% of sex offenders admit to viewing porn on a regular basis. The other 10% probably just don’t admit it. Ted Bundy blamed his killings on violent porn. He says it’s what got him started thinking in that direction. people need to realize that their brains are extremely malleable and they are easily manipulated by what they see on the internet, TV and what they hear in school. Something that at first was shocking becomes normal to them. That doesn’t, however, make it right.

  • imblonde22

    This book is on the banned book list meaning that you cant use it in schools. Its on the book shelf but teachers cant teach out of it. And the 4th grade curriculum doesn’t have any bit of sex ed in it. I’m in school to be a teacher. People need to do some background checking before they start spreading crap around that isn’t true.

    • kevin Golike

      book shelf in the class room or library?

      • imblonde22

        The bookshelf in the Library

        • Paula Perry

          and you don’t see a problem with that?
          I would think that this book would be even worse, for kids to look through on their on, than it would be to teach from. If a parent want’s to buy this book, for “The Talk” that’s fine. It is inappropriate for school in any way, form or fashion.

        • kevin Golike

          yep and every kid in school knows exactly where it is!

    • Ima Souperconservative

      So you are calling this teacher a liar? Can you explain why a book like this is even in an elementary school library?

      • imblonde22

        im not calling this teacher a liar Im just wondering when this book was last used. This may have happened but WHEN? and the books recommended age isnt even 4th grade its 10 and at 10 most ppl are in 5th grade. Im jsut saying people need to research before everyone thinks this is true and starts a big stink about something that isnt happening. lots of banned books remain on bookshelves. They are banned from use not from being on a bookshelf

        • callmesillybut…

          5th grade? This is still inappropriate for 5th grade.

          • Paula Perry

            Do we really think kids only look at books for their “recommended age”?

          • Paula Perry

            Actually, I was replying to imblonde22 and Boy, is she ever!

    • ChristianParent

      Here’s the problem. “It’s on the bookshelf but teachers can’t teach from it”. Isn’t that like banning candy for children but leaving it in their ‘cubbies’ …. I mean really …. if it’s in the library, there is no question kids are going to be exposed to this crap. A real ban means it’s not even there.

      • imblonde22

        Heres the top 100 banned books I especially like #99 Its people that get books banned for whatever reason. Children are being deprived of wonderful books because people are too stupid to see other wise.

        1. Harry Potter (series), by J.K. Rowling
        2. Alice series, by Phyllis Reynolds Naylor
        3. The Chocolate War, by Robert Cormier
        4. And Tango Makes Three, by Justin Richardson/Peter Parnell
        5. Of Mice and Men, by John Steinbeck
        6. I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings, by Maya Angelou
        7. Scary Stories (series), by Alvin Schwartz
        8. His Dark Materials (series), by Philip Pullman
        9. ttyl; ttfn; l8r g8r (series), by Lauren Myracle
        10. The Perks of Being a Wallflower, by Stephen Chbosky
        11. Fallen Angels, by Walter Dean Myers
        12. It’s Perfectly Normal, by Robie Harris
        13. Captain Underpants (series), by Dav Pilkey
        14. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, by Mark Twain
        15. The Bluest Eye, by Toni Morrison
        16. Forever, by Judy Blume
        17. The Color Purple, by Alice Walker
        18. Go Ask Alice, by Anonymous
        19. Catcher in the Rye, by J.D. Salinger
        20. King and King, by Linda de Haan
        21. To Kill A Mockingbird, by Harper Lee
        22. Gossip Girl (series), by Cecily von Ziegesar
        23. The Giver, by Lois Lowry
        24. In the Night Kitchen, by Maurice Sendak
        25. Killing Mr. Griffen, by Lois Duncan
        26. Beloved, by Toni Morrison
        27. My Brother Sam Is Dead, by James Lincoln Collier
        28. Bridge To Terabithia, by Katherine Paterson
        29. The Face on the Milk Carton, by Caroline B. Cooney
        30. We All Fall Down, by Robert Cormier
        31. What My Mother Doesn’t Know, by Sonya Sones
        32. Bless Me, Ultima, by Rudolfo Anaya
        33. Snow Falling on Cedars, by David Guterson
        34. The Earth, My Butt, and Other Big, Round Things, by Carolyn Mackler
        35. Angus, Thongs, and Full Frontal Snogging, by Louise Rennison
        36. Brave New World, by Aldous Huxley
        37. It’s So Amazing, by Robie Harris
        38. Arming America, by Michael Bellasiles
        39. Kaffir Boy, by Mark Mathabane
        40. Life is Funny, by E.R. Frank
        41. Whale Talk, by Chris Crutcher
        42. The Fighting Ground, by Avi
        43. Blubber, by Judy Blume
        44. Athletic Shorts, by Chris Crutcher
        45. Crazy Lady, by Jane Leslie Conly
        46. Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut
        47. The Adventures of Super Diaper Baby: The First Graphic Novel by George Beard and Harold Hutchins, the creators of Captain Underpants, by Dav Pilkey
        48. Rainbow Boys, by Alex Sanchez
        49. One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, by Ken Kesey
        50. The Kite Runner, by Khaled Hosseini
        51. Daughters of Eve, by Lois Duncan
        52. The Great Gilly Hopkins, by Katherine Paterson
        53. You Hear Me?, by Betsy Franco
        54. The Facts Speak for Themselves, by Brock Cole
        55. Summer of My German Soldier, by Bette Green
        56. When Dad Killed Mom, by Julius Lester
        57. Blood and Chocolate, by Annette Curtis Klause
        58. Fat Kid Rules the World, by K.L. Going
        59. Olive’s Ocean, by Kevin Henkes
        60. Speak, by Laurie Halse Anderson
        61. Draw Me A Star, by Eric Carle
        62. The Stupids (series), by Harry Allard
        63. The Terrorist, by Caroline B. Cooney
        64. Mick Harte Was Here, by Barbara Park
        65. The Things They Carried, by Tim O’Brien
        66. Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry, by Mildred Taylor
        67. A Time to Kill, by John Grisham
        68. Always Running, by Luis Rodriguez
        69. Fahrenheit 451, by Ray Bradbury
        70. Harris and Me, by Gary Paulsen
        71. Junie B. Jones (series), by Barbara Park
        72. Song of Solomon, by Toni Morrison
        73. What’s Happening to My Body Book, by Lynda Madaras
        74. The Lovely Bones, by Alice Sebold
        75. Anastasia (series), by Lois Lowry
        76. A Prayer for Owen Meany, by John Irving
        77. Crazy: A Novel, by Benjamin Lebert
        78. The Joy of Gay Sex, by Dr. Charles Silverstein
        79. The Upstairs Room, by Johanna Reiss
        80. A Day No Pigs Would Die, by Robert Newton Peck
        81. Black Boy, by Richard Wright
        82. Deal With It!, by Esther Drill
        83. Detour for Emmy, by Marilyn Reynolds
        84. So Far From the Bamboo Grove, by Yoko Watkins
        85. Staying Fat for Sarah Byrnes, by Chris Crutcher
        86. Cut, by Patricia McCormick
        87. Tiger Eyes, by Judy Blume
        88. The Handmaid’s Tale, by Margaret Atwood
        89. Friday Night Lights, by H.G. Bissenger
        90. A Wrinkle in Time, by Madeline L’Engle
        91. Julie of the Wolves, by Jean Craighead George
        92. The Boy Who Lost His Face, by Louis Sachar
        93. Bumps in the Night, by Harry Allard
        94. Goosebumps (series), by R.L. Stine
        95. Shade’s Children, by Garth Nix
        96. Grendel, by John Gardner
        97. The House of the Spirits, by Isabel Allende
        98. I Saw Esau, by Iona Opte
        99. Are You There, God? It’s Me, Margaret, by Judy Blume
        100. America: A Novel, by E.R. Frank

        • Ann Francis

          imblonde22. Who has banned these books that you list and where are they banned information please.

        • Alleena

          You are suggesting that parents have no right to object to the content in the books their children read in public schools. How appropriate it is to read a book depends on the content and the age of the child reading it. I do not know all of the books on that list. Of the ones I know, I feel that some of them should never be read. What is or is not appropriate will vary with time and the values of the local community. Schools are there to educate children, not to replace parents’ values with those of liberal educators.

  • lizaz

    It shouldn’t be ANYWHERE in the school…”bookshelf or otherwise”. Disgusting liberals…….

  • Doc Holliday

    Teachers giving pornography to small children. What’s are schools coming to ?
    I don’t know about you, but if my kids went to this school, I would want this teacher tared & feathered. I think the teachers are becoming perverts.
    Oh, yeah, the union will back them too because if they get fired the union loses a paying dues mamber.

    • Dr.R. Clavan

      “pornography”…. WHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You poor prude American. You have never even SEEN pornography or you wouldn’t label this book as such. Besides, there is NOTHING wrong with pornography. I’d rather have my children watch real pornography than one of the many movies in which people get killed, shot, blown to pieces, eaten by monsters, decapitated, tortured etc. Those kind of violent movies seem to be ok with most ‘Muricans. It should be the other way around. Remember the public outcry when we could see Janet Jackson’s nipple? RIDICULOUS! Nothing wrong with the human body. Show it! It’s only natural.

      • Ima Independent

        90% of sex offenders admit to viewing porn. many serial killers start with violent porn. It changes people, gives them ideas, desensitizes them and warps their minds. It’s disgusting and unbelievable that it is allowed on TV and the internet.

      • Alleena

        What are arrogant person you are! You call people names instead of reasoning with them which is typical of people on the left. Liar, no one said there was anything wrong with the human body. You try to take the moral high ground, but you live in a swamp. The only thing ridiculous is your arrogance. America is a democracy, but not in your world. You think you are superior and have a right to force your values on others. You are a bully.

        • Grammy

          And a sick perverted liberal!!

  • y.a.

    It’s pornography for children. It’s unthinkable and appalling. When are you parents going to get out and get involved??? I’m a teacher and parents always say they are too tired to do something. But I notice they are never too tired to go to a sports game. Particularly the Dads. GET YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT.

    • Grammy

      I agree, talk is cheap. I post to all of my social networking sites to educate families about the dangers of public schools and what they are doing to our children. If everyone started doing the same, I really believe it would make a huge change. The loudest voices will be heard.

  • Renee E. Dorsey

    Just reason 452 why I am home schooling now.

    • Bob Isbell

      Wow, our reason 452 as well !!!

      • Grammy

        Ours too. We would never consider sending ours to one of these sick indoctrination centers, we love her way too much for that!

  • JuliesOK

    When I was in 4th grade, and as a girl, I was already masturbating. I think this would have been a helpful book to pick up at the library. Informative and definitely not shocking, gross, or lewd.

    • Ann Francis

      JuliesOK I’m sorry you were not taught to respect your body and your person.

      • Patrick O’Sullivan

        I don’t know who you think you are to tell anyone they don’t respect their body, but its obvious you’re mentally under developed, and I’m glad this all disgusts you that way you will never procreate and raise another ignorant person.

        • John Grey

          It’s your kind ofliberal attitude that has this country screwed up today.

          • Patrick O’Sullivan

            right I’m the reason the country is screwed up because I think this mental midget that decides to degrade others should stop speaking. And by the way a child learning about their body isn’t screwing up a country, its helping it. Now kindly go find a life. K thanks.

          • holdenf

            One can always identify the liberal: the one that wants to silence the voices of opinions that differ from their own.

          • Sunnydaze

            By accusing the different opinion of the very tactics he uses. But then it’s Bush’s fault and you’re a racist. :P

      • Stephanie Brewer

        Masturbation is a healthy and normal part of the sexual maturing process. Making someone feel dirty, wrong or in any other way bad about touching their own body only underlines and emphasizes what most kids (girls especially) are already being taught: Our bodies are not our own. We don’t get to say what happens to them. Our bodies are something of which we should be ashamed. It’s damaging at best.

  • thompsoj

    Are you kidding me…….4th grade. The inmates are now running the asylum. The school board and teacher should be fired immediately. And we wonder why 12 year olds have sex with their teachers. Look what they are being taught.

  • Nici Davis

    Children and tweens see so much more than this on FB, tv, YouTube, ect. Why is it so bad to teach children about different bodies before they feel sexual about it? This is showing different kinds of bodies and builds in a neutral and educational way. Instead they grow up to be confused, with an unrounded education in a subject that is EXTREMELY important, sometimes leaving them confused and even sexually frustrated.
    Why is it bad to teach teens that masturbation is wrong when most adults do it?

    • Ingrid Prestegaard Royster

      No one said it’s wrong but it’s not the schools place to teach this. Try parental responsibly.

      • Deescusted

        If the parents did do it they wouldn’t have to teach it in schools.

        • Ann Francis

          Deescusted , Why does anyone HAVE to teach this????

        • Sunnydaze

          Whether the parents do or not the schools not only don’t have to, it is not the school’s PLACE to teach someone’s kid how to masturbate.

    • JMacinSJ

      Because it is not the place of the school – Would you like them to raise your child too? That IS where thay are headed.

      • Nici Davis

        They technically do. . . children spend 7 hours a day minimum at school. They feed your children, teach your children, your children confide in the “institution”, they experience their first bits of freedom in schools. Schools are horrible, but sometimes children need to learn this way because their parents refuse to give whole and well rounded education in this feild

    • Ann Francis

      Nici Davis “most adults do it?” Just curious what your source of information is.

      • Jude

        LOL, my favorite part is the ridiculous notion that most adults DON’T masturbate.

      • Nici Davis

        Probably porn sites. . . or something. . . definitely not personal experience. . . or the sheer number of men that have “secret porn” the funny part is “the notion you think they don’t”

    • Grammy

      There is so much evil and sickness in this world. Does this mean the public school system should be teaching fourth grade children about all of that as well just because its out there and happens? The next thing you know, they will be teaching them its ok to have sex, get pregnant, and then have an abortion. No big deal, just all part of the new liberal lifestyle right?

      • Nici Davis

        Yes because its ALL the liberals fault. Lay off that button.
        And this book is teaching children that not everyone is the same, that everyone is different and that is fine. Its also teaching that it is normal to feel aroused when you reach puberty, that it is not a dirty, horrible thing.

        • Grammy

          Yes it is the liberals who are promoting these types of things in the public school system, it sure isn’t good conservative minded people such as yourself (That’s sarcasm in case you missed it)
          By the way, dirty and horrible are your words, not mine. My point is that this is a subject that should be taught by parents, not strangers in the public school system.

          • Nici Davis

            And yet, like mine, parents make the subject so SOOOOO taboo that don’t dare ask questions. Parents don’t know HOW to teach this subject and make a mess of things. It makes children to grow up being confused and repressed (WHICH IS A VERY VERY BAD THING)

            This NEEDS to be in schools so children don’t have to go through what I had to. They need to know being different is beautiful. Being different does not make you a worthless person, that everyone is different!!

    • Sunnydaze

      The point is Nici, responsible parents also monitor those social medias. And bringing masturbation into a classroom and showing them how to do it is unacceptable especially at 8 years old. And when the hell did it become acceptable to normalize some old man standing around naked?

      • Nici Davis

        Then tell them that its inappropriate, this book is by no means telling them that sex at a young age is fine, its just showing them that being different is ok. That there are different body types.
        Also parents that work 40 hours a week cant constantly monitor what their children are doing either.

        • Grammy

          So since work is obviously more important than their children, just give up and send them to the pack of wolves to raise any way they see fit? That is the easy way for some parents that are just too tired after a long day at work to be bothered with raising their own children. That makes perfect sense.

          • Nici Davis

            Not all parents are invested in their children. This does happen. It happens all the time. I don’t know why you think it doesn’t. . .

    • Medic01

      Children and tweens do NOT see on broadcast TV, etc., as much as is shown in “It’s Perfectly Normal.” That cable and FB, etc., violate wholesome standards is another matter which is typically a choice of the tween watching it since such programming is restricted to some degree. And if the child/tween ignores the ratings the onus in on the child/tween. Regarding different bodies, whether and when and how children lean of the intimate details of them is up to mom/dad, not Miss Teacher. And such a subject as sex is only extremely important because of the dissonance created by public authority and advertising figures conflicting with parental standards: “Miss Teacher, mom says I can’t watch this stuff. You say I can and make it freely available to me.” The bottom line is that any sexual contact, conduct or activity (including with the self) outside of a monogamous heterosexual marriage is sinful. You appear to be a minor child yourself and I am not a counselor or psychologist so above is all I will say to you. If you find conflict in what I have shared with you, seek the wisdom of your parents for resolution.

      • Grammy

        I also sense that she is a young brainwashed child that is uninformed about reality.

      • Nici Davis

        “The wisdom. . . of. . . my parents. . . .” Hmm. . ..
        Well I would, if they were competent.
        Instead they let me fester in A WORLD OF CONFUSION AND SHAME as I tried, ever so hard, to convince myself I was not a disgusting freak for my body. My parents REFUSED to give me the most basic of education on this subject. And many MANY other parents do the same.
        I am twenty years old, I have lived, and seen, and experienced some things in your religion that would curl your toes off. I have trusted and learned and had revelations. And none of that helped me with the raging inferno that was inside of me, because of my incomplete education.
        Where in your bible does it say that sexual relations with ones self is sinful?

  • truthdefender

    Victoria’s full article is filled with tons of inaccuracies and misinformation that are easily google-able. I don’t trust that this is being used in a fourth grade classroom, because so much of what she rights seems to be purely made up out of thin air. May the book be present in the school library? Maybe…I remember this book being in my public library.

    • Patrick Henry

      It says it is on the reading list. Does not mean the teachers passing it around.

  • Mark Fonner

    Is this serious?

  • Dave

    When in the hell are you Christians going to finally get it through your heads that public school is destroying our/your youth? At what point are your kids going to be more important to you than are your material possessions or your status in the community? When will you make the necessary sacrifices to get them out of the gov’t indoctrination centers? When I pulled my kids out of the indoctrination centers years ago, it was the Christians that gave me the most $#!t about my decision. I just don’t understand, why it has taken Christians of all people so long to get it, or why they aren’t pulling their kids out of these cesspools in droves.

    • Randy131

      This stuff is being pushed by the liberals, Democrats, and teacher unions, and all of them claim to be Christians. I’m an Independent registered voter, because I didn’t want to have an allegiance to any political party, but wanted to vote for the best man or policy, owing no allegiance to have to vote for. But now I cannot vote for any Democrat, because of what they stand for, abortion on demand and special preferred rights for homosexuals. Anyone who truly knows what an abortion is, and what the aftermath is like, is truly an evil person for supporting abortions, and why I think most of those who support abortions are ignorant of the procedure and it’s aftermath, and should be required to watch the procedure and what is left over after it is done. Also what Obama’s promised ‘CHANGE’ for the USA has been is to make us into the image of Sodom & Gomorrah, which is now completed with the help of all the liberals, progressives, socialists, communists, Democrats, and the mainstream media. All this shows is that all who claim to be Christians, are really not, especially Democrats. True Christians have really become a minority in the USA, thanks to the Democrats, and why all this is being accepted without any righteous indignation, exactly what Jesus said was required to be able to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

      • Dave

        I understand your point of view. However, it was actually politically conservative Christians that gave me the most grief over my decision back in the day.

        • Randy131

          Like I said, all who claim to be Christians really are not. This nation is now another Sodom & Gomorrah, and it took compromises, over and over again, until those who have said compromise is good finally got their way, and duped all the others into the situation we now find ourselves. You can’t compromise GOD’s precepts and be a Christian, for GOD decides who is and who isn’t a Christian, and He doesn’t compromise. Why do you think Jesus questioned His disciples about whether their would be faith in the world upon His return? You don’t compromise your faith, or if you do you don’t have any. Jesus saw all this coming, and those who stay faithful will be rewarded, not those who claim to belong to Him and fail to keep His Father’s precepts, which he said about them, “I do not know you”, to answer their claim of, “We drove out Demons and cured people in your name.”

    • Guest

      It’s because many Christians here in America have conformed themselves not to the holiness and beauty of The Eternal Living God, but have conformed themselves to the wickedness,greed and selfishness of the world. Many Christians today might wonder why they ended up eternally separated from God when they leave this world. Christians have become so wishy-washy and complacent that they do not know God or His Son Jesus Christ. But they sure know everything about sports and shopping. Instead of selflessness and sacrifice for their kids, they sacrifice their kids to the false god of public school MISEDUCATION and convenience. This is why the Catholic Church in the U.S. has been in trouble since the 60′s. When Catholics see nothing wrong with voting Democrat and voting for a treasonous tyrant and fraud like Obama, it shows that the church is failing to impart true faith and morals to each generation. Liberal Catholic colleges and churches, priests and nuns are leading Catholics astray and right into their eternal demise. What a mess.

      • Dave

        I think that Christians, both Protestant and Catholic, have became lazy and complacent. They not only ignore evil, but in many cases they aid and abet it, even within their organizations.

    • Hello Dolly

      There isn’t a Christian I know that supports the public schools now. Not sure who you are referring to. Seems to be the liberals that enjoy sex ed in kindergarten, child molester and prisoner rights, voting without ID, drug importers. illegal aliens, legalized drugs and pot, welfare and food stamps.

      • Dave

        If you know of no Christian that supports public school, I would have to draw one of two conclusions. The first one would be, that there are no kids in the public schools with Christian parents. The second one would be, that you live in a very sheltered environment. I’m not putting you down as I do know some people who lead very sheltered lives and I don’t necessarily view that as a bad thing. Sometimes I wish that I lead such a life.

      • Erin Ashley Hedges

        Oh no, not legal weed, welfare, and food stamps, what will we ever do with those? It’s not like they’re meant to help people who actually can’t help themselves, or anything, right? It’s not like weed is safe, or anything, right? No, not at all. Weed has a 0.00000% death rate compared to any other drug including alcohol and tobacco, and basically only ruins lives because it’s illegal to begin with, and for no legitimate reason anyways, but we shouldn’t legalize something people use to relax, right? Why should the disabled who legitimately can’t work, which, by the way, is the majority of welfare recipients, or people who work, but still don’t make enough to support their families, which are the majority of food stamp holders, get any help from the government? Let them starve, right? That’s the christian way, right?

      • Debby Lacher Griffin

        Not all teachers are non-Christian, and not all schools are bad. I’m a Christian, and I teach in a public school. Yes, there are some things that I don’t agree with, but there are many Christian school teachers and we’re there because God put us there.

    • Medic01

      Money, my friend. Money. And daily transportation. To and from. By the way, ‘pubic’ schools have been wrecking that which is wholesome for years. Yes, I spelled it ‘pubic’ school and for a reason I doubt I need to explain.

      • Dave

        Which is more important money or the future of one’s children? I worked from 8pm until 4am for many years. Being that my job was 54 miles from my residence, I would get home at a little after 5am. At 7:30 am I would get up and take my kids to school which was about 18 miles from the house. At 2:30 pm, I would make the trip again to pick them up and bring them back home. At 6pm, I would have to get back up and get ready to head back to work and do it all over again. As to the money situation, I had to choose between a nice house and car or my children’s education. There is now the option of homeschooling for children, which is much less expensive than what I did. A child is further ahead to have no education than to be thrown to the wolves that are devouring them in our “public” schools.

        • Medic01

          Hardship stories abound, son. But if you do not have the money, it can’t be done. Period. So your attempt to belittle with trying to shame by invoking a child’s worth is moot.

          • Dave

            Homeschooling can be done at less expense than sending one’s children to the brick and mortar public school. Therefore your point about hardship stories is moot. There was no attempt on my part to belittle, perhaps you are a bit thin skinned. Also it would be impossible for me to be your son, as I do know who my father is. I would have to say that you are the one that is attempting to belittle. Is that the way you Christians are supposed to act when you disagree with others? Then again, I do remember you telling me that you were finished with me and would reply no more to me. Also that you were leaving me in God’s hands. It would be best if you would simply keep your word.

          • Medic01

            The stem of your “therefore” does not support your argument. And you are lowering your intellect by copying the words of the one with whom you are trying to argumentatively defeat — failing so do so I might add. And if denial (about your attempts to belittle) makes you feel better, go right ahead and deny, everyone who read your tirades knows. And about disagreeing. I am not disagreeing with you: you are disagreeing with me. That was YOU with whom I ended my involvement!? Now that I know that I can keep my promise — and will.

          • Dave

            So you say. One has to appear to be lowering their intellect in an attempt to communicate with you on your level. Do you realize how immature your statement concerning the subject of disagreeing is? Your excuses for leaving one’s children in the public school system are weak at best. As to the rest of your replies on this and other threads, you have done an excellent job of invalidating your Christianity to me. Whichever one of the over 30,000 brands it is, I will pass.

  • coastx

    The information isn’t so bad as the way it’s being presented in competition with the indigenous. It’s really Jew socialization crowding out Christianity partly because Americans are so phony in their own faith. Character development via the family doesn’t work in the US, and Tennessee proves it. Fact is what’s being presented in the book is reality, just it’s presentation in a public school classroom w/o parent involvement is pretty typical of a predatory administration. So it’s not really addressing the need for information so much as being a source of indoctrination opportunistic for child exploitation by perverted adults. Reason? Shock, dumb fxxks! Good God people are stupid!

    • JustaMom

      This has nothing to do with Jews you anti-Semitic phony Christian idiot.

    • anAmericanByChoice

      What are you talking about, ” It’s really Jew socialization crowding out Christianity” — What on earth does this have to do with Jews?!

    • Medic01

      Then it is okay with you that your kids know what you look like nude?

  • maxemax

    This is outrageous to present to 4th graders. No wonder there are so many unwanted pregnancies. It is because of liberal BS like that makes it ok to screw around.

  • Name

    … if i saw that in fourth grade i would be scarred for life…. *shudder*

  • VictorLandry

    I’m 65 and it made me blush. Disgusting!

    • Medic01

      It made me nearly puke.

    • The Doctor

      if it made you blush then maybe you need to learn about being an adult…65 and cant handle cartoon penis…sad

  • Michael Cichorz

    Quit complaining and do something about it. Operation American Spring May 16th D.C.
    Join the Revolution. Quit being a couch commando and stand up for American values.

  • concern00

    When you control the nation’s children, you control the nation.

    • Medic01

      True, but sex education of our youth is not a matter of control but is a matter of guidance.

  • Tom Townsend II

    You know, sex ed is sometimes valid when kids’ parents do not want to be parents and have this talk with their children; or when said parents are afraid of an over aggressive Child Protective Services coming in and throwing these parents in prison and taking away their children because these parents did the right thing and sought to educate their kids on this subject rather than leaving it until the schools do it (which really should have no part in education on this topic) or until these kids end up facing young pregnancies or diseases. As to the writers, publishers, distributors, school board members and educators, as well as parents and others who are promoting this and similar kinds of materials as educational materials, can anyone repeat with me, “child pornography and contributing to the delinquency of minors (multiple counts on both, along with a whole host of other related charges)? I would highly suggest that someone check into and very actively pursue this. After all, just consider, if any adult had this kind of material in a book or in any other way in their home or office, they would be put in jail, facing these and even worse charges. Why should those writing, publishing, and otherwise taking part in providing these pictures and related materials be exempt from the same laws and the lawful appropriate treatment? I look forward to seeing the news of these people being arrested, charged, and eventually ending up individually and personally, in prison.

    • delahaya

      Somehow, people had sex and children were born before explicit sex education in schools happened. People have been able to figure this out since, well, there were people. Since the advent of explicit sex education, we have had skyrocketing STD rates and teen pregnancy rates – ironically some of the very things sex ed proponents claim to be combatting.

      • mturnwall

        Actually teen pregnancy is on the decline. Also states that lack sex education or only teach abstinence have higher birth rates.

        http://www.hhs.gov/ash/oah/adolescent-health-topics/reproductive-health/teen-pregnancy/trends.html

        It’s a strange coincidence that the bible belt has the highest teen pregnancy rate.

        • Medic01

          Maybe teen pregnancy is on the decline but teen pregnancy is still m-u-c-h higher than before public school sex ed.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Doesn’t mean the two are related. Note how quickly it went up when parents started to refuse to allow the kids to be taught this, and started pushing for any place that backed up teenage education to be shut down?

          • Medic01

            Yes, it does, Erin. You are speaking of an aberrant microcosm of the big picture. I am not. Teen pregnancies increased BECAUSE of such promiscuous content of pubic education. In other words, sex ed backfired. That is not arguable. Speaking of inarguable, I will not engage in a ping-pong argument with you. Having dealt with so many folks who support sexual irresponsibly behaviors, I have a very good idea of where you are and where you will go if I were to humor you and continue to reply to your defenses of sexual immorality.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Where is your proof, then? Ever think it could have been the fact that the moment kids go home and tell their parents they learned about condoms, the parents told them condoms were wrong, and the kids were afraid hto use them as a result? Teach a kid something, and then have it drained after school, and of course disaster will follow

          • Medic01

            Where is YOUR proof? And “disaster” would be less likely if the child is taught to wait until marriage to do what you speak of instead of using contraception. In other words to make it more simple, don’t teach that condoms are wrong, teach that sex outside of a monogamous heterosexual marriage is wrong.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            When was the last time you actually listened to a parent’s every word when they say don’t do something? Telling them not to is just going to make them want to do it more, in most cases. This is the single most common cause of rebellious teenagers, for gods sake. Teaching them that condoms are an option if they do decide to do something, at least when do decide to act on totally natural urges, there’s a 99% chance of it leading to them realizing “wow, that was fun, glad I almost certainly didn’t get you pregnant”, instead of “wow, that was fun, hope you’re not pregnant, bye”. My proof is that kids that are taught proper sex ed have a statistically far lower chance of getting a teen pregnancy than the ones who aren’t. You want proof? Here’s a little bit of fact for you. The bible belt states, that don’t have state sponsored sex ed in schools, that leave it up to the parents, have a far higher teen pregnancy rate than any other geographical region of the country.

          • mturnwall

            Not true, teen pregnancy was on the rise in the 50s before sex ed was prevalent in public schools. Sex ed at that point was restricted to teaching military guys about STDs and college kids. People fought sex ed in public schools all the way to the 80s until HIV came on to the scene. At that point proponents of sex ed really gained momentum and sex ed became mandatory in some states during the 90s. The teen pregnancy rates have steadily fallen since the mid 90s.

            http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db58_fig1.png

            Kids are going to have sex whether you teach them about it or not. Why not teach them how to be responsible about it and how to prevent early pregnancies and disease transmission. Why do people fight this?

    • Dave

      As to your last sentence……… good luck with that. I look forward to seeing BO imprisoned. I think that you and I are in similar boats.

      • Dalton

        Dave for once I agree with you, not fully Obama will never see a day of imprisonment unless it’s done by force, and the government unfortunately won’t have that he still would retain his presidential protection. Besides it’s the whole entire government liberal and conservative that are to blame for the whole mess we are in. Power corrupts absolutely after all he is just the face of the operation not the real perpetrator.

        • Dave

          I agree to some extent. I’ve been saying for decades that the Republicans are not really fighting the Democrats, because at the end of the day they both have the same goal, (ie) eradicating our individual freedom and rights.

    • withouthope

      You’re right, of course. The only thing is the courts, as well as the media, are populated by liberals. The conservative population of this country has been stymied everywhere they have turned since the 1960′s. There doesn’t seem to be any front we can fight on that is not in control of those who are bound and determined to destroy what was once a good and moral country. Letting the demographics be changed by mass immigration has destroyed any chance we had of maintaining a moral and decent society.

    • Medic01

      Just FYI for you Tom. I had served as a foster parent for 40 kids over 18 years and if I had shown even one of those pictures from that book to any of the foster children I could have been brought up and charges of sexual abuse, As in a dirty old man showing ‘pictures’ to adolescents. Yet when it comes to showing those ‘pictures’ to children in the name of education ……. Besides, what is “perfectly normal” for our kids is up to you and I as parents, not public schools.

  • EMKAY

    Looks perfectly reasonable to me!

  • Dalton

    I’m sorry to be the barer of bad news, but a lot of teens are starting to have sex about 11 so this book actually makes sense. Fourth grade is when most school districts start sex ed, so it makes sense for the school to give your children the tools of safe sex. Sense none of you have the guts to stop your children from having sex at least they will know to cover there peter before they greater

    • BrassRing

      Well dummy, did you stop to think that MAYBE teaching kids crap like this is WHY they’re having sex at 11?
      jerk

      • JustAsking

        Because there’s no other possible way to learn about sex other than school, right?

        • Dalton

          At least someone understands that it’s the parents job to enforce what your child is doing, whether they are 9 or 17. It will always be the parents job to say “You will not have sex for as long as you live under my roof.” So thank you for being an intelligent adult.

          • Medic01

            A command such as “You will not have sex for as long as you live under my roof” makes me doubt whether you are a parent.

          • Dalton

            You are right I’m not but that is because I didn’t spend my childhood having sex i spent it going to school Including Health and sex ed, learning discipline respect and to think for my self from my military step father, my Olympic gold medalist martial arts teacher and my ancestors you know those heathen Celts and those savage natives.

          • Dave

            I guess that you are just another “expert” on parenting, all without any experience on the subject.

          • Dalton

            No I’m not an expert far from it I’m just product of modern parents ones that didn’t force a bible and old way thinking down my throat. To be honest I have chose not to be a parent because the United States is crumbling beneath are feet and most are to self absorbed to realize that it’s because of this old way of thinking.

          • The Dude

            I think you just became my spirit animal.

          • Dalton

            I’m glad I can be a role modal of forward thinking

          • Dave

            You are one of how many Americans? Every child is different, what may have worked for your parents may not work for other parents. Until you have raised children, it would be a service to the ones of us who have, if you would cease pontificating on the subject of child rearing.

          • Dalton

            The sad thing is I’m the one that has to deal with your children long after your gone, in fact the people you are putting down the most, those educators yea that’s my future. In fact I taught children respect, discipline, honor and self defense whether indirect or during my time as a martial arts instructors assistant. Also besides the fact that i learned respect, honor and discipline from a step parent I really didn’t have a strong rearing and I was able to grow up morally sound and yet more intelligent then most of the students at my high school.

          • Dave

            That reply shows that you are a self aggrandizing fool. The sad thing is that you are one of the self absorbed people that are causing the nation to crumble and you don’t even see it. My children are more than likely older than you are, so lucky you, you will never have to “deal” with them. You are on your way to becoming a legend in your own mind.

          • Dalton

            More like average, I just went to a school with a 25% drop out rate due to teen pregnancy and drug use I am just a man who wants to see this nation succeed but it is very much so failing my ideals I have learned the hard way what with a very backwards republican father and drop out mother. My passion in educating is what drives me, the youth are our future and the past is pulling them down. I suppose you are the type of person that says humans where created from clay and and that eve was from the rip of Adam which screams cloning to me.

          • Dave

            Between your many grammatical errors in your posts and your immature point of view, I have to conclude that you would be doing more for the future of America if you would not become an educator. Find another line of work. As to your last sentence, you are jumping to conclusions. It is my belief that neither theory is provable. That being said, why are so many of the educators so afraid of a theory that they claim is a fairy tale being taught alongside the theory of evolution?

          • Dalton

            The fairy tale of religion is being taught alongside the theory of evolution due to the united states having the highest amount of ignorant religious people and that work in the field of science. One is fiction one is fact. Yea I have i have issue with grammar but due to my haste of typing and that i generally write the good old fashioned way with paper and pencil. We also have a higher unemployment rate then in the great depression, due to the fact that are government is crumbling under it’s girth of pockets and debt. We are number one in the amount of people who belive in angels and by a very large percent.

          • Dave

            WTF are you smokin’? Name one public school in the US that teaches “the fairy tale of religion” alongside the theory of evolution. Also you call it the THEORY of evolution then turn right around and call it “fact”. If it was a proven fact then it would no longer be called the THEORY of evolution, it would be called the LAW of evolution. You are full of $#!t as to your excuse for the host of grammatical errors in your replies. If you are the future of education, our country is finished.

          • Dalton

            I wasn’t referring to literally referring in a public school it is actually illegal to teach religion in public schools due to the separation, of church and state. I put evolution as theory because there are so many people that like you that would get angry about it being called true fact may i point out the Evolution vs. creationism debate that Bill Nye and Ken Ham. The debate sumerization and link to the whole debaet are bellow http://youtu.be/dgkvu0P4KUA http://youtu.be/_04S0fYU7FI

          • Dave

            Even in the world of science it is still referred to as the theory of evolution. Until it is proven, it will remain just that, a theory. I still do not see anything wrong with teaching both points of view. Neither are provable.

      • Dalton

        More like because you allow your children to run wild have sex do drugs and commit crimes at there pleasure and not laying the line in the sand and properly discipline. Also it’s due to there ignorant parents who keep thumping there bibles like only Americans can and explaining sex and why they need to wait till adult hood.

        • Medic01

          Dalton, do you actually expect anyone to take your diatribe seriously when you try to defend sexual immorality with things like “there ignorant parents?” You need to go back to 4th grade and re-learn the difference between “there” and “their.” And it is not that sex should wait until adulthood. Sex should wait until marriage. Indeed, any sexual contact, conduct or activity outside of a monogamous heterosexual marriage is sinful. Whether you (OR I) believe it or not. Whether you like it or not. Whether you care or not. And, yes, whether I say so or not. I did not write the Rules. Neither did you.

          • Jazmyne

            “Sex should wait until marriage. Indeed, any sexual contact, conduct or activity outside of a monogamous heterosexual marriage is sinful. Whether you (OR I) believe it or not. Whether you like it or not.”

            You’re stating this as a fact based on your own personal beliefs. It isn’t something you can prove outside of “the bible” or “believing in God”, take a good look around you….. mammals of all kinds reproduce without a “certificate of marriage,” and they are considered God’s creatures yes? To this you will throw back we are more intelligently based, which is also something NOT true. Due to having a different way to communicate doesn’t give us the right to be on the pedestal of Life. Some mammals, creatures, and insects will stay in one relationship all their lives, while others will have multiple partners. Here is another fact for you as well, some mammals, creatures, and insects either kill their partner after reproducing, others leave parenting up to one of the partners, some actually conduct in homosexual activities, and yet others actually change sexes. Without putting a “belief system” into such as religion, there is NO ARGUMENT on what should be “right” or “wrong”. Dalton out of anyone has the best argument available which isn’t religious based.

          • Dalton

            Thank you Jazmyne I try to see things like this logically. not religiously or emotionally.

          • Medic01

            Yes, his disatribe is “religiously based.” Anti-Christian. So is yours. Your soliloquy seems to equate animals, insects and humans being equal? You may be but I am not. And the reason the Bible does not apply to animals and insects in this arena is they do not have souls. Only humans have souls.

          • Dalton

            I’m sorry but there was a history channel special today, you literally can’t prove that there is such a thing as a soul. There is no proof and I thought we all are gods children. plus the cockroach is the closest thing your going to get to perfect, at least when it comes to survival. Actually I wouldn’t call it religion based, it’s common sense based. When I refer to religion it is in reference to state that you can’t look at something like this rigorously and not be biased.

          • Medic01

            You literally cannot prove there is no such thing as a soul. There is no proof that we are not God’s children. And if the cockroach is your standard of perfection …….

            About religion, I am not a religious man. I am Christian.

          • The Doctor

            did you know attacking a persons grammar in a debate is considered a logical fallacy because you lack the ability to attack their points.

            let me know when this nation is ruled by our bible and i will allow your argument to be taken seriously.

          • Medic01

            My arguments ARE taken seriously … by many, son. Just not you. And that does not bother me. By the way, a “logical fallacy?” Woooo. I am impressed. Correcting grammatical errors does not indicate an inability to address points made, son. It means I chose to say something about what so many thumb warriors under 21 do to the written word. Y’know. The ones who can’t tell the difference between “than” and “then?” The ones who seem to have broken shift keys? Etc.

            BTY, who taught you to be so arrogant? You will allow? LOL. LOVL.

          • Dalton

            Have you thought that my spelling mistakes are not due to stupidity but due to the way I write. the fact that my mind is faster then my fingers causing more mistakes in a haste to catch up with my very intelligent train of though.

          • Dalton

            Yea nether did a catholic or a Jewish person nor did someone who believes in any modern religion most of the bible is stolen from pagan religions such as Sumerian, ancient Egyptian, Celtic and ancient Greek what a coincidence huh.

          • Medic01

            I didn’t believe anyone could be wrong so many times in a single paragraph … until now.

          • Debby Lacher Griffin

            Preach it! :D

          • Dalton

            Thats the whole issue with what he is saying he is baseing his opinion on religion not fact.

          • http://thebetterpc.com Shawn Mullins

            I don’t see how teaching kids about their bodily functions and natural biology is sexually immoral in any way… Perversion tends to come from too much ‘shame’, prob a good explanation of why so many priests and other figures turn into pedos.

        • chris

          Your wrong Dalton!

      • http://thebetterpc.com Shawn Mullins

        Kids will be talking about this and trying to figure these things out for themselves by 4th grade anyways. Is it better for kids to hear foolish non-sence from their immature peers or be taught in a mature and responsible way from an adult? Stupid. Such stupidity it astounds me,

    • Medic01

      “…a lot of teens are starting to have sex about 11 so this book actually makes sense.” This “book” promotes and encourages such immoral behavior, Dalton. That the sexual revolution of the 60s and 70s, the framework for such educational poison, has decayed man’s sexual and moral posture does not make it morally acceptable to the One who spent three days in Hell so you and I would not have to spend one moment there. The “tools” in that book do NOT provide for “safe sex”, son. The ONLY safe sex is abstinence.

      • Dalton

        Actually it is promoting safe sex and sexual education. It’s your unwillingness to lay down the law that makes promiscuous children possible. Granted most of the people on this website are bible thumping tools. Intelligent man realizes religion has set human society back 2000 years. About the abstinence tell that Jesus’ mom you know the virgin Mary your quoting a story book.

        • Jeffrey Fiess

          This might be the most stupid comment I have ever read. You clearly haven’t read the bible or even know what is in it. Sex ed is fine, but promoting promescuity is not. Liberal idealogy is what has set society back 2000 years. If you had even one brain cell, you would understand that.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Tell that to millions who were murdered throughout the past 2000 years in the name of the christian “god”, only for believing differently, and attemting to understand the world around them. Tell that to the scientists who were killed by the church for trying to explain that not everything could be explained simply with “god made it that way”. You know, the people who’s ideas wouldn’t show up for often another 700 years or so?

          • Dalton

            One tiny issue I’m not Liberal, I fight for my right to bear arms just hard as any American on Republican side. I just think that maybe it’s a smart idea we catch up to the rest of the world you know those people who live across the pond that believe that angels exist who and who realize that sex ed isn’t teaching promiscuity. What set us back was us blaming angels gods and demons on what was going on around us, and not finding the real reason.

      • Erin Ashley Hedges

        Ok, don’t tell kids condoms exist, and let them find out the hard way what can happen if you don’t use one. For that matter, why not tell them masturbation is wrong, too. Let them know from a young age that what they decide to do in the privacy of their own bedrooms is unnatural and wrong, right?

        • Debby Lacher Griffin

          Sounds good to me! If you tell them masturbation is okay, then you end up with a society like the one we currently have. Grown men who have no morals, have no control over their thought life, are addicted to porn, are child molesters, and are bound to spend eternity in hell.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            You really think that’s how those people develop? I can probably find billions of examples worldwide that prove you wrong, but it wouldn’t do any good, you’d still argue it

          • Medic01

            She would still argue it because Debby is right. And you are wrong. And whether, when and how kids learn of such things as condoms is up to mom/dad, not Miss Teacher.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            How is she right, when literally all the evidence on the planet says otherwise?

          • Medic01

            Prove it.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Prove I’m wrong. Do it without using the bible, using only real world facts, and I will admit defeat

          • Medic01

            You will “admit defeat” One day whether I say so or not. In the end there will be no denying the Truth.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            People have been predicting “the end” for over 2000 years. I said prove me wrong without using the bible, You couldn’t prove me wrong without using the bible. Your argument has no logical standing whatsoever. The bible is not a word for word history of the human race, whatsoever, and nothing in it should ever be taken literally. Considering 90% of it is scientifically proven BS, I wouldn’t take it as much more than a guide on how to be nice to people, at the most

      • The Doctor

        I agree with Medic in a theocracy like ours if Jesus wouldnt approve we shouldnt do it…is the sarcasm thick enough…also abstinence isnt a type of sex you moron unless no car is a type of car i can own.

        • Medic01

          I didn’t say abstinence is a type of sex, kid. Now who is the moron.

    • chris

      No!

    • THX-1138

      A lot of “teens” are having sex at “11″? I don’t think you know what, exactly, the definition of “teen” is. ThirTEEN, fourTEEN, fifTEEN, etc.

      • Dalton

        I was making a point eleven is technically preteen but 11 is the average of when most kids are having sex sorry to say

    • Guest

      You’re kidding right? What you wrote made no sense whatsoever! Public schools fail to educate kids properly and have successfully dumbed down generations of Americans. And if the liberals have it their way, will render our society into a genderless mess of perverted barbarians, molesting anything that moves. Schools should be shut down, what a waste of taxpayer money but what a shameful disservice they do to all children and teens. Public schools don’t teach kids HOW to think but WHAT to think and to live lives in such foul, obscene and violent ways that will only bring misery and disease to their lives. The media, Hollywood entertainment industry and Democrat Party perpetrate this mess; force, shove and bully their way into people’s lives where they have no right or business. Violating our rights and the Constitution.
      Yet people like you defend this kind of obscenity and insanity. Welcome to the liberal, communist U.S.A. Where the innocence of childhood is being ripped away from kids all in the name of “hope and change” and instant sexual gratification that degrades and demoralizes.

      • Dalton

        Those liberals like Abe Lincoln, who freed men from shackles. Like the people who brought you woman rights. Are country hasn’t been dumbed down by liberals it just has been damned and shackled to a rock of old thinking slowing are rate of progress. Also it was liberal thinking made rape and molestation a crime.

    • Debby Lacher Griffin

      Nope! You are DEAD WRONG about this! By the way, 11 year olds aren’t teens, and the correct word in your last sentence is “since” not “sense”. What Medic01 says is absolutely true!

  • adsicks

    American children are so stupid they can’t even figure out how to masturbate?

    • Name

      apperently, though i think some of themfigured out enough to get pregnat as a teen, the parents alone should tell THEIR children about procreation, and mastrubating and all of it, the school’s job is to teach what the parents allow them to, not to decide that 9 year olds need to know how to put on a condom… if they do, well god bless those parents

  • Doc

    Another example of what teachers today ARE. With overwhelming support from the teachers unions they propagate sexual promiscuity, socialist conduct, and immorality (except Muslim values of wife beating, child rape, and sodomy are just fine) and that the individual liberties GUARANTEED by our constitution don’t apply to them. They terrorize and intimidate children; especially if it concerns the Second Amendment, and they justify their conduct with socialist agenda answers. Leaving your children in public school is an act of child endangerment.

    • Kaye

      Not ALL teachers!

      • Wombat319

        No, Kaye…not all teachers. Just the ones who go along with this crap and don’t PROTEST doing it!

      • Doc

        You are correct. But, you must admit, if you are honest, the majority of teachers, especially inner-city and large metropolis cities are following a national socialist agenda. For those few who refuse to terrorize their students (children), my apologies. The rest will likely be hung when the war comes.

        • roadking2000

          My dad loved teaching at the High School level, but quit after 12 years because he refused to continue paying union dues to the NEA, an organization that was extremely left-leaning and would not listen to the conservative teachers views. The liberal push was very strong & he wouldn’t go along with it. That was in 1979

        • Erin Ashley Hedges

          And what war would that be?

          • Doc

            Kindly just admit you have so little to live for that you troll these sites just to agitate. You can reply but I have your number and will ignore you, well, at will.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            No seriously, what war would you be talking about? I actually have a fairly good life, I just try to educate people who still seem to be stuck back in the stone age. So seriously, what war do you seem to be under the impression is coming?

    • The Doctor

      you clearly havent studied islam. and clearly dont know what SOCIALISM is.

    • Erin Ashley Hedges

      You really want to go into muslims? Their beliefs basically require charity to the poor, as well as avoiding anything that harms women or children. The people who commit atrocities are an entirely different brand of islam, one that goes against everything actual muslims believe

      • Doc

        Boy, you sure have swilled your portion of the Koolaid and must have imported some mid-east sand to bury your head in. Muslims talk about their decency but the truth is they rape children on a regular basis. The beat and torture their children. They beat their wives. They murder their wives. They kill innocent women and children on a regular basis. They slaughter virtually anyone who disagrees with them. They REFUSE to tolerate any other religion. They pray for the extermination of all Jews and Israel. They regularly blow up women and children, including more Muslims than Christians in the name of THEIR faith. Christians generally forgive them. Try examining the truth if you have the capacity.

        • Erin Ashley Hedges

          You’re talking about extremists, and people who live in countries where the government flat out sponsors terrorist schools, like Saudi Arabia. Want to know the incredible part? Just like so many so called “Christians”, these people are not remotely following their religious beliefs. You want to know why there’s so many issues between them and Israel? After WWI, when the Jews started returning to the region, it was agreed that both sides would be respectful of each other’s boundaries. When it happened, though, the people behind the whole thing went back on the deal, and the brittish government helped force millions of arabs out of the land. the arabs saw this as a betrayal. This is actual world history, by the way, not conspiracy. As for refusal to tolerate other beliefs, that’s mainly Saudi Arabia, again. The only place where religion is mandated. The rest of the nations are somewhat open to people of many faiths. Please, don’t get me started here, I’m actually studying this stuff at this point. And don’t get me started on “Christians”. They follow Paul more than the actual teachings of Christ, despite the fact that Paul never once met the guy, or had any involvement with him whatsoever, and was basing his entire writings on assumptions. Never once does he actually refer to anything Christ did or say, yet modern “christians” hang on to his every word, and throw the original teachings of Christ to the 4 winds. You really want to complain about how they treat us? Look at it this way. You just helped someone win a major war going on in your region, because they promised you independence from former rulers. They then proceed to completely and totally colonize you, and stripmine you for your natural resources, all the while ignoring any and all cultural significance to the area. They move through the region like packs of wild dogs throughout the years, attempting to wipe out your civilization in an era spanning across 600 years. They never once give you a reason to trust them, and then they claim your land as their own. Sound messed up? I hope so, cause that’s what your so called “good christians” have been doing to the region for the past 1000 years

    • Debby Lacher Griffin

      That’s not at ALL true! I am a teacher, and I don’t know any teacher who would teach this crap! Maybe there are some, but I sure haven’t seen them. Any sane teacher would know that you can’t teach this crap to kids in school and then expect them to do well. Their minds will be elsewhere……just saying! Not to mention, It’s morally wrong. Yes, there are some schools and teachers who are idiots, but not in my school system. They have more intelligence than that – at least for now!

      • Doc

        Perhaps you need to expand your view. Millions of teachers are members and followers of the teachers unions. If you don’t believe teachers teach this you haven’t seen Common Core. You haven’t seen the news about children being threatened for playing war, or cowboys and Indians, or biting their pop tarts into “threatening gun shapes”? If you are an exception then good for you, but if you think I’m wrong without seeking the truth and seeing the big picture then you are limiting yourself, and your students by ignoring facts. I have seen exactly what I am speaking of in three different schools and thus home schooled my son (although I admit my wife did most of the hard work and teaching) who is now an honest, fair minded and patriotic citizen. Teachers today are, by a wide margin, liberal and socialist; and that, Madam, is a fact.

  • bill45colt

    I guess I need to go back to the 4th grade and repeat. I might have missed something all along and not been doing it right all these years.

  • anAmericanByChoice

    You must be freaking kidding me!?… We have to get rid of these morons!!!

    • me

      no different than whats on tv. i watched 2 and a half men once. miley cirus !

      • Vanessa

        go away, weirdo.

      • Debby Lacher Griffin

        And that makes it okay? Just because a bunch of OTHER morons create and/or watch that crap, it doesn’t make it okay!

  • Medic01

    Another sign of the times, folks. I pray you are ready.

  • theBuckWheat

    The liberals (er, “progressives”) who push this will not be happy until there are no sexual boundaries for children, and then no adult-child sexual boundaries. This indicts a whole generation of what used to be an honorable profession.

    Homeschooling yet? At the very least, it is time to get government out of the business of sexing up our children. Parents should have vouchers so they can send their children to any school they please.

    • The Doctor

      yes explaining to kids how their bodies function is totally the step towards pedophilia being ok…you are an idiot.

      • http://thebetterpc.com Shawn Mullins

        The sheer idiocy of people thinking this is so ‘bad’ or ‘gross’ blows my mind..

      • theBuckWheat

        I see the broader context, and that context takes us to a very horrible world, but one that progressives seem “hell-bent” on taking us to, no matter how much some of us might object.

        When government is involved, there are no options for people who have a different opinion and who peacefully want to approach the subject according to the morality they have developed rather than the morality of a secular state with distant bureaucracies who cannot know what is best.

        Progressives are even more fearful about Christians imposing their morals on everyone else. (Never mind the morals of the Muslims they seem to like today.) It is just time to get government out of the moral education and the moral enforcement business entirely

        In that vein, government needs to get out of the business of determining who is married and who is not. Return marriage to the private sphere where it belongs.

  • Tom R. Williams

    If I had drawn pictures like this in 4th grade, or any grade for that matter, I would end up in the principals’ office. This is disgusting. 9th or 10th grade? Maaaybe. 4th grade? Heck no.

    • me

      we drew pictures like that at the catholic school i went to in the 3rd grade. lol ! the other 3rd graders knew more about sex then i did. i didnt know anything ! lol ! i was a moron ! still am ! lol ! however in the 6th grade public school we were taught this and our parent were informed before.

      • Liberals Are Trash

        And you turned out to be a sex offender. Why am I not surprised?

        • http://thebetterpc.com Shawn Mullins

          maybe if he learned from a responsible teacher rather than his peers at such a young age he would had turned out differently… I think its much more safe for kids to be exposed to this stuff in a responsible way rather than be subjected to their silly peers

      • Debby Lacher Griffin

        I remember an incident that happened when I was in the fourth grade.
        There was a cute little boy in my class, and we were in the cloak room (really old schools had those – they were for hanging up jackets and things). He brought out some sexually explicit – porno photos – the likes of which I’d never seen before. He was laughing about them and evidently his uncle had given them to him (or he had stolen them from his uncle.) I still have a very clear picture in my head of the content of those pictures, and I’m now 60 yrs. old. I wished I had never seen them. This sort of filth doesn’t belong in the schools or anywhere else for that matter. It’s NOT okay to masturbate, and no one should teach children that it IS! That’s why now we have so many nutcases running around who never learned to control their sexual urges. SEX IS FOR MARRIAGE, AND MARRIAGE ONLY – AND THAT- BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN! This society needs to return to God! ASAP!

  • yaki534

    No boundaries whatever. Soon we will see people fornicating in the parks and the streets.

    • The Dude

      People already fornicate in parks, on the streets, in cars, alleys, and on benches. It’s called prostitution and it’s been around for a very long time.

      • http://thebetterpc.com Shawn Mullins

        I think I have fornicated in each of the places mentioned and it never involved prostitution… Didn’t hurt anyone or scar anybody. What is wrong with these people?

    • http://thebetterpc.com Shawn Mullins

      Big deal? It’s totally natural. I believe its the big shroud of mystery and forbidden that turns a lot of folks into pervs…

      • yaki534

        Ah a person with no morality has shown up. I will pray for you, my liberal friend. May He have pity on your soul. God bless.

  • Erin Ashley Hedges

    I remember something like this when I was a kid. What’s wrong with telling them their bodies are perfectly natural, and it’s ok to explore?

    • Wombat319

      Probably because it is NOT the GOVERNMENT’S JOB! It’s the PARENTS’ JOB! Get it now???

      • Robert Firestone

        then take your kid out of public school. If you submit your kid to public teaching then deal with it. IF you don’t like it then go to a private school or homeschool. You get it now?

        • DONNA

          YOUR SICK TOO…

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            You’re just outdated

          • http://thebetterpc.com Shawn Mullins

            LOL!!!! ^^^ Yea people, its not 1950 anymore.. Knowledge is power and I honestly STRONGLY believe that if kids were taught about sexual health and biology in a mature and responsible way that it would be a huge step forward for society. There should be nothing ‘secret’ about the natural functions of our bodies. I remember when I was that young a lot of kids didn’t even know what the other genders parts looked like and those were the ones who were more overly curious than say kids who had siblings and saw their parts growing up.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Don’t try to get these people to be progressive, they still think it’s ok to stone the gay people

          • Sunnydaze

            You know for a well educated, more intelligent than most, college student you sure do make a lot of assumptions. Has studying for all those multiple degrees not taught you anything about assumptions? I suppose I could presume from what you’ve posted that you’ve spent way too much time in a liberal indoctrination center to see any other point of view. In spite of all your supposed education and intelligence you still revert to derisive and dismissive comments when someone else’s opinion differs from yours. At all of 23 you still have much to learn. BTW at 23 most kids think they’re superior. Eventually they grow up.

          • AL, Orange Park, FL

            and you need to see a doctor about that brainless tumor you are trying your hardest to work with

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            I could argue that my intelligence is rated well above the global average, closer to the top 80%. I could point out that I am currently studying for multiple degrees in physics, astronomy, world history, and archaeology. I could basically prove every single argument you could ever post on this site wrong with a couple well worded sentences, but it will never change the fact that you have been bred from birth to be ignorant and stupid

      • Dalton

        THEN DO IT!!!!!!!

      • The Doctor

        we tried leaving to the parents…it didnt work.

        • Erin Ashley Hedges

          Doing that only made things worse, actually

      • Erin Ashley Hedges

        I stuck with government approved schooling, and here I am, 23, in college, a potential carreer in high level sciences ahead of me, aspirations of getting into the space program. I learned sex ed when I was 12, and I never once got screwed up because of it. Where is your argument now?

        • Sunnydaze

          So basically what you’re saying is you were not an average child. Don’t you think perhaps being more mature than your peers had as much to do with the way you turned out than at what point you started masturbating or had sex ed?

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Most of my class ended up doing fairly well in life, with the exception of the ones who came from highly religious families. At last count, when I was in high school, not one single student who took part in the school’s sex ed program in 15 years had a teenage pregnancy. The students who’s parents opted out of it? More than half got pregnant by the time they were 17

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            And the thing about those students? They came from religious families. See a trend, yet?

      • Womyn2me

        For the most part, you parents are doing a poor job of it. http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/publications/597

    • DONNA

      YOU ARE AS SICK AS THE PERSON THAT WROTE THAT BOOK..

    • The Parrot

      I agree Erin. Girls more so than boys are beginning to develop younger and younger, body image issues, eating disorders, etc.

      • Erin Ashley Hedges

        It’s not because of education, its the crap people call “reality TV”. That’s the poison, and yet I don’t see any of these people trying to shut that down

        • zoostation

          I agree that TV in general is the poison, but as a parent, it was my job to monitor TV programming. Neither of my daughters even watch TV anymore. I don’t need someone to shut it down for me.

    • Debby Lacher Griffin

      Fourth graders????? Really! I’ve been in education (public and private – but mostly public) for about 20 years, and I’ve NEVER seen anything like this. If they teach this to fourth graders, they’ll be sitting on the pot during school masturbating instead of being in class! They won’t be able to concentrate on their school work, and they’ll be more likely to become sexually active at a really young age. I’m guessing many more young girls will be raped because they don’t have the maturity to say no to boys and men. You and anyone else who thinks this is OK need to have your head examined.

      • Erin Ashley Hedges

        There is no science to back up your argument, whatsoever. It’s almost as ridiculous as the people who argue against the transgender bathroom bills

        • zoostation

          How about common sense? Teaching about bodies is one thing, but condoms and masturbation are inappropriate at that age.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            I didn’t need school to tell me about masturbation, I knew it felt good when I was 10. What the school did was teach in sex ed that it was perfectly ok, and that it was normal. Care to guess how many students thought otherwise when they said that? Half the damn class, because their parents decided it was better they never do it at all, despite the fact that it’s really none of the parent’s damn business

          • Sunnydaze

            Missy at 10 years old everything you do is your parents business.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Masturbating is none of your parents business, I say again.

          • zoostation

            I agree Erin that it is none of the parents business. On the other hand, I had a lot of things on my mind at 10; masturbation sure was not one of them. Just saying…

        • Fed Up

          Transgender bathrooms are on my ‘argue against’ list. Really?! Born a boy/girl…use THAT bathroom. Once you reach the adult age and COMPLETE any operation you want to have to finalize your ‘transgender issue’, THEN use the appropriate bathroom. In school, boys have a bathroom, and girls have a bathroom. Stop friggin’ making people look ridiculous for not letting ‘sexually issued’ people have their way about everything. Being ridiculous is catering to every whine and whimper from people with their own personal cause, who expect special treatment. I’m left-handed and blonde…you never heard me ask for special treatment, even with all the jokes and right-handed dominate classrooms. Grow up and let the family raise the family, with God at the center, and not the gov’t. Please, if you are voting liberal, stay home on voting days…you are helping destroy this nation and families.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            The incredible part is, all the research that has ever been done on the subject says your argument against trans kids is totally wrong. At least you didn’t try to use the argument that kids will lie just to sneak a peek in the opposite room, that’s quite possibly one of the most idiotic arguments against it in existence

        • AL, Orange Park, FL

          and YOU have science behind your ridiculous assumptions … right!?

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Yes, I do. Mountains of documentation, in fact. I could argue that there is not one single example in the history of the bill of kids trying to use the “temporarily trans” excuse to get into the opposite bathroom. I could cite the parts of the law that specifically prevent that from happening, too. I could point out that bathrooms have locked stalls, and that people don’t go in, strip down completely, and strut around naked, for that matter. But you know what the most damning piece of evidence against the arguments is? You have to be officially diagnosed as trans in order for the law to apply to you, or be recognized in the school system as living full time as the opposite gender. The very instant some kid tries to abuse the situation, he will be suspended from school

      • http://thebetterpc.com Shawn Mullins

        I remember being in 4th grade and the great shroud of mystery about sexual functions – its all the boys talked about in the lunch room and none of us had any clue what we were talking about! I think being formerly taught in a mature way is MUCH safer than going on what your peers say!!

        • Kenneth Stout

          So you think the book shown here is a mature way?

          • cl0ckw0rk

            It shows it in a way that’s easier for kids this age to understand.

          • Kenneth Stout

            Your sick! Get’s some help buddy!

    • Dianna Zerbe

      sex is something a parent should talk to a child about.
      in the 4th grade it shouldn’t be taught in classes with girls and boys together.
      some children are still innocent and things like that embarasses them.
      yes sex is natural

      • Erin Ashley Hedges

        When some parents try, the kids end up more confused than ever. Like kids who are gay, who’s parents start beating them the moment they start asking questions, or parents who tell their kids that masturbation is wrong, or harmful. Or how about the parents that make their children so terrified of sex that they avoid it at all cost for life?

    • Sunnydaze

      What’s wrong with that being the decision of the child’s PARENTS? And what happens when you add telling them it’s ok to explore to gender neutral bathrooms?

  • AnOldTimer

    The School board should be brought out to the public to explain why this is being allowed in their school system. What 4th grader needs instruction in masterbation?

    • Sunnydaze

      What child of any age needs instruction in masturbation???

  • Balkandeputy

    We took a financial hit when we decided to Home school our Daughter, and we’d do it again in a New York Minute.

    • stephen

      6 years later….and that’s why she is socially awkward now.

      • changed777

        Yeah, Stephen…the kids in public schools that huddle together with their shoulders hunched with insecurity, all dressed alike that can’t even dump their lunch tray without someone walking with them…..that’s not awkward.

      • zoostation

        Define socially awkward stephen. Based on what I see in schools, a bit of social awkwardness is not a bad thing. If the kids are not sheep-like, are more creative, and have higher standards for how they treat others and expect others to treat them, then yes, socially awkward is a good thing.

      • Katelyn

        Actually, I have a good friend that home schools her children and they are involved in more social activities than most public schooled children. They are required to do outside things such as P.E. per state curriculum. Please educate yourself before making ridiculous, snide comments about others’ children.

      • Tinaroll

        You know nothing about homeschool if that is what think of it.

    • bamcintyre

      And she will probably not be able to get into any first level university.. but can always go to Liberty University or one of those. Actual knowledge of science and such isn’t required there.

      • zoostation

        Actually, as far as percentages are concerned, home schooled and alternative schooled children do better on their SAT and ACT tests. You are making a generalization of a subject you obviously know nothing about.

  • Amy O’Brien

    As a former teacher, 12 years in the classroom to be exact, I have never ever seen anything that remotely resembles a book with content such as shown here. I am going, right now, to do some research with teacher-friends of mine in Hamilton County. I would be shocked if this book were actually on a “reading list” for 4th graders in TN. A reading list implies required reading. I could be wrong, and if I am, I will be the first to admit it. However, so many people on social media circulate articles without researching them first.

  • Rob Cunningham

    And biting a slice of pizza into the crude shape of a gun get’s a kid expelled?

  • The Dude

    Calm down, people. It’s a informative book on sex. Probably shouldn’t be in a fourth grade class and parents should be asked for permission, but it teaches them about reproduction, anatomy, safe sex, and that masturbation is normal and the proper way to go about it so they don’t harm themselves and end up in an embarrassing hospital visit. I don’t think they should have used sentences that encourage the behavior out of a group of 9-10 year-olds.When I learned about it in 5th grade the teachers split up the boys and the girls and we learned about our own bodies, masturbation, and changes that will occur over the next few years, and in sixth grade we repeated that, learned about the opposite genders body, more information on sex, having safe sex, the reproduction process, and birth. The thing is, it’s already all around them and this is something that informs them more as a precaution before they find out themselves in unsafe and awkward ways, not material in getting your kids to have sex at a young age. And if you do feel like they’re teaching it wrong, then maybe you should talk to your children about it, but try to be as informative as possible.

  • Dianna Zerbe

    Lord help me JESUS! that book is pornography! who decided to put that book on the reading list? I’d throw that book in the trash if my grade school grandson brought it home! then I’d start calling the principal and all the school board members and then I’d start calling all the preachers in town! Help me JESUS! this one’s got me fired up!

  • David McElroy

    The NWO folks know no bounds, and this sort of stuff has no place in elementary school. Of course, they are even pushing the pro-homosexual propaganda down to the kindergarten level. But speaking of abstinence until marriage is forbidden!

    • bamcintyre

      That worked so well for Sarah Palin and her daughter…

  • http://thebetterpc.com Shawn Mullins

    I don’t really see a problem with this. Kids should be educated about their bodies and our natural functions.. I think the earlier you teach children about these things and the less “mystery” that is involved, the less likely the kids will turn into perverts or hide themselves in shame. You people are ridiculous. Its our bodies, we should be comfortable with our natural functions, nothing to have such ‘shame’ over.. You people are so close minded!

    • AJames

      Sound like a liberal, Shawn. Do you really think anybody “needs” to be educated about their body! What the hell do you think people have been doing for thousands of years, all without the “benefit” of progressive immorality!! You’re the ridiculous one here, thinking this is about shame. And you’re the one closed-minded – closed-minded to what is proper and decent. I’m tired of such moronic arguments as yours!!!

      • Yves450

        You mean like how the ancient Greeks would have older men have sex with young boys to teach them? Is that the thousands of years you are refering to? What about the devout religious newlywed populations in North America who go to their doctors to find out why they aren’t getting pregnant, only to find out that anal sex won’t do the trick. Yeah, sex ed is stupid. *rolls eyes*

        • http://www.19252907008.com Details For Me

          No, he’s talking about the recent discovery in no less than eight European university studies on muslim families that over 70% of the population admits to having been molested by older relatives. Islamic incest seems to be the norm in that culture and that is how they are teaching their kids. Wait until muslims enter your community to get the disturbing news first hand.

      • Erin Ashley Hedges

        Human race was around a good few million years before your concept of morality, so where does that leave all them?

        • AL, Orange Park, FL

          you have your dates wrong friend
          no one proves the “human race around a good few million years ago” all supposition NOTHING more
          guess you’re just trying to justify yourself in your own head
          good luck with that!!!!

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            That’s the argument against your own belief, not mine. I have piles upon piles of proof that science is right on this. I’d explain it, but I think Bill Nye did a better job in his debate a couple weeks ago. Just look up BHill Nye/Ken Ham debate, you might actually manage to learn something

          • cl0ckw0rk

            Well, no, I agree with the stuff about Bill Nye and evolution and what not, and I’m a darwinist. Modern humans haven’t been around for millions of years, fifty thousand years at most.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            There are signs of human life far older than that, where do you think we got the “millions of years” number?

          • cl0ckw0rk

            We got the “millions of years” number from drawing conclusions based on scientific evidence and research. Our evolutionary ancestors have existed for millions of years, but the modern human- like you and I- have not.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Not according to the earliest dated human remains. At a minimum, our species, as we are today, has been dated from remains to about 195000 years

          • Jerry

            Around 200,000 years ago homo sapiens started to evolve to what we are today. It was not millions of years ago. If you are willing to stretch the truth by a few million years on this, what else are you willing to stretch the truth on? Want people to believe what you are saying? Stick with the facts and you will be more believable. Stretch the truth and no one will believe anything you say. .

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            You said 55000, so I don’t see you doing much better. Homo sapiens is the current evolution, Homo Sapiens is modern humans.

          • Jerry

            Really I said 55,000? I think you have me confused with someone else. I stated above in my only comment about this that it was 200,000 years ago. Here is a link to educate yourself on Homo Sapiens and when they started to evolve in to modern humans. I am guessing that reading and comprehension is not your best subject, http://anthro.palomar.edu/homo2/mod_homo_4.htm

        • Grace

          Just curious Erin ~ if humans have been here for a few million years, why did we sudden start writing only 6,000 years ago? Why can’t we date civilizations beyond that? And why only 7 billion on earth now? Should there be more? One would think if after millions and millions of years that we’d be crawling all over each other.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            You do know there are cave paintings older than you think the earth is, right? Art is a form of communication. You were aware of this fact, right? There are trees older than you think the earth is.

          • Grace

            So our only form of communication for millions of years was cave art which is believed and not proven (because it can’t be) to be millions of years old. …. and we only started writing 6K years ago ~ that seems to be a rather lengthy amount of time to not be documenting anything and a difficult way to run a city ~ The oldest civilizations can only be dated back 6K (and yes, I am aware of the cave art.) I use to believe all the evolution stuff too, but found it took more faith to believe in it than in God. He has totally rocked my world.

    • changed777

      No one has any business educating anyone else’s children about this, Shawn. You not ‘seeing a problem with it’ is just that: Shawn doesn’t see a problem with it. It doesn’t mean that problems don’t exist with it.

    • Cliff Johnson

      Are you kidding me? FOURTH GRADERS!!! And public school is NOT where this discussion should be taking place! PARENTS are responsible for this information being passed to their OWN kids at a time when THEY feel it is appropriate!

  • Ali

    Wow, this is the book my mother gave me when I was ten or eleven – I’m 19 now and I’m not a sexual devient – I don’t get what the issue is. It was educational AND also explained that the best way to prevent pregnancy and the spread of STDs is to remain abstinent. Children should be taught these things – it’s a lot better than getting your period one day and having no idea what is happening!

    • cl0ckw0rk

      Thank you.

    • Motherof 2

      Yes they should be taught these things but not by a school teacher and not forced on them until their parents feel they are old enough. This book is nothing but kiddy porn and you two are what is dumbing down ruining what was once a great nation. Go back to your mommy’s basement and enjoy your own hand-y work.

      • bamcintyre

        I guess that Sarah Palin never thought her daughter was old enough to learn about sex? That’s why her daughter is a mother.

        • Sunnydaze

          You’re repeating yourself. Like most liberals you latch on to a talking point and can’t let go. How is it that you know anything about what Sarah Palin taught her daughter. Just one more example of progressive mudslinging.

  • http://www.politicalpolicy.net/ Dennis Gallagher

    Don’t kiss another student or have a plastic key chain gun but it’s OK to have pornography dumped on our kids by these hate-America socialist, atheist idiot teachers and their unions. God forbid God is mentioned in school, but let’s teach kids how to masturbate. And we wonder why there are Columbines and Newtowns.

    • cl0ckw0rk

      THESE EVIL SATANISTS, DARING TO TEACH OUR KIDS HOW TO MASTURBATE, WE’RE STRAYING AWAY FROM GOD! THAT’S WHY WE HAVE SHOOTINGS!

      That’s right, I’m back. This isn’t pornography, it’s teaching kids that sex is a normal part of life. Which SHOULD be taught. There shouldn’t be a social taboo regarding sex. Nor should there be regarding masturbation. People are built to want to reproduce, we get urges, we masturbate to satisfy those urges. What’s wrong with that? Oh, besides I guess a two thousand year old book tells us it’s bad.

      You’re an idiot.

      • http://www.politicalpolicy.net/ Dennis Gallagher

        Hey folks the house atheist is here. Come one, come all to see it spout it’s moral relativism to justify it’s amoral lifestyle. Yeah he thinks all this is normal. Hey Mr. Atheist based on your inane logic I think the kids should all pee and crap in the classroom. I mean it’s, how did you put it, “we get urges”, so I think since peeing and crapping is an “urge” the kids should as you also say “satisfy those urges” and pee and crap in the classroom. Right? What say you? Given you’re atheist, hateful, intolerance, closed and small mindedness, and amorality I’m sure you identify with the Newtown and Columbine shooters. All these kids were taught this crap in America’s crummy public schools instead of values which are based on religion. Except they didn’t get to take advantage of your new idea of having bio breaks right in the classroom, right? Unfortunately you’re a product, or better yet, a casualty of an atheist public school education and you’re remarks are your tell.

        You would have to grow a brain cell to even begin to become an idiot.

      • http://www.politicalpolicy.net/ Dennis Gallagher

        Oh by the way I bet you have “urges” all day. Keep your pathetic, atheist, sick beliefs away from our children. Your the reDon for Columbine and Newtown,

  • Erin Ashley Hedges

    I’d just love to see where you people stand on the transgender bathroom bill

    • AL, Orange Park, FL

      so you like to peek in the bathrooms huh?

      • Erin Ashley Hedges

        Show me a single shred of evidence that your argument has any weight whatsoever in the physical world, and I will side with you

    • Cpl Pun

      It is disgusting. How’s that for to the point?

      • Erin Ashley Hedges

        And you can back this up with sources outside of personal bias and fox news, right?

  • Joe Mosley

    This is B S !

  • Saltporkdoc

    There is a tremendous problem with this! Yes, children need sexual education and demystification, but not in public schools. This is a function of the family and parents which has been abrogated by those same families and parents because they are too embarassed and/or “best friendly” to discuss sex frankly with there kids. Further, the morality or immorality of sexual practices are issues for the individual family and church to teach, NOT a public school teacher!
    Maybe if there were less of this type of teaching going on teachers would have time to teach truly educational matters such as math, reading and writing! Gee, maybe that would mean the end of Common Core AND an improvement in educational scores for US students!

  • AL, Orange Park, FL

    oh my gosh
    and we in the USA wonder why our Nation is collapsing
    these things are unbelievable but true none the less and of all places Tennessee
    one of the most Christian states in the Union at least it was when I lived there about 10 years ago
    and so goes the USA …. “to HELL in a HAND-BASKET”

  • jenersea

    You know this is being promoted to get everyone on board with the thought that everything is okay as long as you like it. I am surprised that there were no homosexual freak show circus acts shown, to convince the kids that it is okay to have a sexual identity disorder and you can wear dresses when you are a boy, because after all you fall into the new homosexual hero status as a transgender.

    • Ashley D.

      They’re just clothes. Boys wearing dresses is perfectly fine. Not too long ago women were not allowed to wear pants. And little boys wore dresses and had long braids with bows.

  • Helena

    This does NOT belong in the hands if children. I think the earliest would be like 14 or 15. I think it’s AMAZING how far we’ve come and what we allow to be taught to our children in schools.

    See, to me, it’d be different if there was a class that was incorporated into health or something that briefly went over STDS, and that if you were going to choose to have sex, you should always use protection. If it also showed a baby growing, etc, I think THAT would also be very useful, and HECK what REALLY happens when someone gets an abortion, instead of insisting repeatedly that it’s “just a blob of cells”… when really, it’s not. It’s not a booger for goodness sakes.

    But that’s not what Sex ed is. It’s totally off the wall now days AND it’s not regulated at all. I have friends who have HORROR stories about what they were “taught” in sex ed. Which honestly makes it no better than “learning at home”… because one teacher is teaching hardly anything, while another is basically putting up two people “doing it” to show what goes on.

    How comfortable would everyone be if an elderly gentleman walked up to a group of twelve year olds and started talking to them about their bodies and sex? Not too comfortable, right? Well, wait, that man is a teacher! … is it any better? Why do we let it happen in schools?

    Why not just the very basics in a single day every semester about STDS, pregnancy and the fact that one should use protection?

    The very idea that kids need to be “TAUGHT” about sex is ludicrous. They’re GOING to figure it out, and they’re GOING to do it.

    I was taught entirely at home, (home schooled) I was in a religious family, and they told me all about sex. I figured out masturbation ALL on my own AND I was a virgin until I was married as was my husband.

    So yes, there are instances in which teaching at home works out just fine, I actually have about fifteen friends who are all in the EXACT same boat. They were raised in religious homes, and they either waited until they were married, or waited until they were OLDER than 16… So, I don’t know where these studies come from that “teaching at home doesn’t work”… I think the problem is that the REASON that it doesn’t work is that RECENTLY (for the last twenty or so years) parents have gotten lazy because they think the schools are doing it FOR them… when in reality… every single person that I knew growing up who was home schooled and lived in a “RELIGIOUS HOME” had a VERY healthy view of sex, commitment, and all kinds of things… And as I said, they either waited until they were married, or they waited until they were old enough to make that decision.

    So I really don’t know where these tests and “studies” come from… But I call bogus.

    • Liz

      It doesn’t I got in trouble at the bookstore at 9 or 10 when I was laughing at the book

    • sara

      14year olds are wayyyy beyond this book. they are having babies, giving blow jobs under stair wells and are contemplating giving away their virginity to an older guy so he will look their way twice. I say about 5th or 6th grade level

  • Tinaroll

    I just love how people without kids or did a poor job raising their own kids are trying to tell parents this book is fine for 4th graders. It is the parents job to talk about these things NOT the government. This is proven by the poor job the government has done with everything else.

    • bamcintyre

      That reminds me of what a great job Sarah Palin did with her daughter…

      • Sunnydaze

        Typical liberal rhetoric.

      • Tinaroll

        What does Sarah Palin have to do with ANY of this. Oh I forgot when you have nothing intelligent to say lets start throwing out insults. Typical liberal response…….

  • kate

    This is really gross they shouldn’t learn about sex until 7th grade like I did if they are teaching this to fourth graders can parents sue the school

    • Billca

      I agree that it’s inappropriate for 4th graders. I will, however, say that it might be appropriate to introduce this topic as early as 6th grade (11 yr olds) in a milder form and expand on it in 7th & 8th grades when youngsters really begin to notice there are two genders.

      • akitty77

        When I was in 6th grade, the girls learned about menstral cycles and their reproductive organs. The boys were separated and learned about their reproductive organs. That was enough. This book goes way beyond what is appropriate.

        • Billca

          What I object to is their “everything is normal” attitude. While masturbation is cheap, clean, convenient and you don’t have to go home in the cold it is up to the parents to each what is acceptable and what is not within their family.

  • Gloreen Andersen

    this is totally inappropriate for a 4th grader. This is sexing up a child to explore well beyond their years into what they will , in time , ask age appropriate questions.. This book is more for the 12-14yrs .

    • bamcintyre

      That’s why there are so many 12-14 yr. old mothers.

  • Antonio T De Angelis III

    From what I can tell, there is nothing wrong with the book. As long as it is for Sex Education. Plus talking to kids early as possible about this stuff should help with courage to ask parents about it. I remember being in kindergarten and being afraid to ask questions like these and spent most of my youth trying to figure it out on my own.

    • Cpl Pun

      Most of your youth was dedicated to sex? Wow. How did you have time to be as ignorant as you are? No one is this stupid without practice.

    • akitty77

      This goes way beyond sex education and is totally inappropriate for a 4th grader!

  • Ali

    Book is totally wrong. Black men are waaaaaay bigger than that

  • David Michael

    In 4th grade? Not, at least, until 8th grade. That’s frikkin ridiculous.

    • cl0ckw0rk

      Kids start masturbating by sixth grade, from what I know.

    • sara

      I was in 4th grade when ee had our first exposure about puberty and stuff. I believe it was in 5th grade when masturbating was a topic. if you honestly think these kinds of things should wait until 8th grade… I’m sorry to inform you but the sexual concepts and pressures have already worked their way into the psyche. pages with the naked individuals serve to inform children that bodies come in all shapes and sizes, therefore helping self image concerns.

    • SAgirl

      4th grade sounds good enough, my 5th grader was caught watching bangbros, having learned about it from fellow classmates and having the sex talk with me at age 9.

    • bruces girl

      By 8th grade they are already having sex and getting pregnant.

      • Sandy

        yah, because they are being taught by adults it’s okay – that’s the problem…

  • Frank Mercuri

    Who are the pedophiles that cast these lures? Why else introduce a innocent child to the knowledge of sex when it is beyond their comprehension?

    • cl0ckw0rk

      I had the “sex talk” given to me by my dad in fourth grade, I comprehended it. Fourth graders are able of comprehending the idea of sex.

      • Cindy

        And the sex talk should be up to the parents in my opinion if they want it known this early. My children did get it from us but that was our choice. We wanted them hearing it from us rather than some stranger teacher or from other kids who didn’t know what they were talking about either.

        • cl0ckw0rk

          So you’re saying that only you can comprehend the idea of sex well enough to teach it to your child? I’m pretty sure (at least it was in my school) that schools send home papers asking the parents if they’re okay with a sex ed class being taught to their children.

          • Cindy

            What I am saying is that I would rather teach my child than a stranger. They are my children after all.

          • cl0ckw0rk

            Fair enough, but as I said before, most schools that I’m aware of send papers home with their children regarding the topic, and ask if their parents are okay with it or not.

        • Kristen

          What if the parents are uncomfortable talking about it? Taking the personal family factor out of it can make kids more comfortable with hearing about it. Sure, I’m sure there’d be talk about it on the playground, and giggles and jokes, but to be open and honest and take the taboo out of bodies and sex can only really serve to keep children understand, come to terms with, and be knowledgeable about their bodies and what they look like/do. We tell our children about all the other parts of their bodies and what they do. Why do their genitalia have to be a mystery? What purpose does that serve?

          • Cindy

            I don’t see how a teacher is any different as far as giggling is concerned and really in today’s world I can’t imagine there are many parents out there that are uncomfortable with sex. I mean it is in every single tv show, movie, book, you name it. Why, if you don’t watch what your kid does, he probably already knows more than you. Still, it is more positive coming from a parent. Now in my day, it just wasn’t done but we all survived and the planet went on. I think we can still keep it out of school.

      • Tinaroll

        Point proven that it is up to the parents not the job of the schools.

        • cl0ckw0rk

          I’ll state this again, most schools send papers home with children saying that there’s going to be a “sex ed” class in their school, and the parents must sign it if they are okay with it, much like a field trip permission slip.

  • Cpl Pun

    This is beyond disgusting.

  • Dwightmannn

    The Liberals are the pedophiles and the sex criminals. They need to be repressed. They want to be like Muslims, and marry 4 year old girls. . . 6-6-Sicks

    • cl0ckw0rk

      They’re pedophiles for wanting to educate children about sex, a normal and completely healthy part of life.

      10/10

      • Sandy

        no, they are recruiting kids….it’s sickening….let them have their innocence….what’s the matter with you?

        • cl0ckw0rk

          Let them have their innocence? So, let children be ignorant to the world? You’d rather have our children be ignorant to the world around them than have them be educated. Knowledge is power. And if you think you’d rather have children be innocent because “it’s cute” or something, than, you obviously aren’t a very intelligent person.

          • Sandy

            so you are in favor of kids drinking and doing pot? What about child soldiers? Isn’t that part of “the real world”? Let kids be kids….you don’t burden them with adult things at that young an age….they need to learn reading, writing, and arithmetic, not sex in 4th grade, and it’s the parents responsibility, not yours….you have a great deal to learn.

          • cl0ckw0rk

            No, I’m not in favor of kids drinking and doing pot. That should be regulated. They should be educated however the harmful effects that drugs can have on your body, and that it’s kind of a dumb idea to do them. And they should be learning about the world, as it is, things don’t need to be sugar-coated. The world is a cruel place, and while compassion towards children should be shown, you can’t teach them that the world is a place full of happy people and rainbows. THAT is cruel. You’re lying to them, and you know it, and it only causes further problems for them later on.

          • Sandy

            you don’t seem to understand that you should be teaching academics and showing kids how they can become successful, not sexual at that age….since sex ed was introduced in the 70′s, we have tripled the number of unwed and single mothers in this country….sex is for adults. Get over it.

          • cl0ckw0rk

            So? Unwed and single mothers happen. Get over it. They aren’t teaching kids to be sexual, they’re teaching kids how sexuality works.

          • Sandy

            no, authority figures are telling kids how it works, and that it’s okay to do it at that age…

          • LoveInsanity

            Except it’s already established that sex education prevents pregnancy. The more the sex ed, the lower the pregnancy rates. No sex ed or abstinence only leads to higher unwanted teen pregnancies. Where is your data from?

            Also simple question: who is more likely to get pregnant? The woman who knows about sex and prevention or the one who knows nothing about it?

            http://thenationalcampaign.org/data/compare/1701

          • Sandy

            total BS….abstinence was taught long ago, and there were fewer single and unwed mothers then…nice try, lib…

          • LoveInsanity

            No evidence. No data. No source. No facts. Just imaginary assumptions, the inability to answer a simple question and name calling. How typical and cliche.

            There were fewer unwed and single mothers long ago because women were expected to marry, have kids and be housewives. If a woman got pregnant, she got married. That has changed. Now women are more independent and fathers are more absent. It has nothing to do with sex education. If women with unwanted children knew more than “don’t have sex” then they wouldn’t be pregnant in the first place.

            Uneducated states (red) have the highest unwanted pregnancy rates. The most educated states (blue) have the lowest rates. Google “states with highest unwanted pregnancy rates.”

            What’s almost comical is that the red states are also the ones whose leaders want to outlaw abortion, defund planned parenthood and block women’s access to contraception.

            If you live in one of those states, guess who pays for all the government services that go to support the poor young mothers and foster programs that are needed due to lack of sex education? You do with your tax dollars! These tax dollars could instead be used for… wait for it… EDUCATION! But instead they’re going to pay for welfare for people who didn’t get an education, both academic and otherwise. What a productive cycle.

            And you say “lib” like it’s supposed to be an insult. Hilarious.

          • Sandy

            yes, lib is an insult…weak, feckless, pilow biting and bowing to the state…non-self reliant….you arguments are equally non-sensical…. and as for the subject, I lived when they taught abstinence, and it worked for the most part…..you’d better wake up out of your “hope and change, yes we can” stupor….you are a useful idiot for Obugger…..

          • LoveInsanity

            Let me guess. You were absent when debate was taught in school? So you think that name calling makes a valid point? If I strip away all your meaningless dribble from your response I get: “I lived when they taught abstinence, and it worked for the most part,” and that’s merely your opinion of your limited personal experience. You have nothing but name-calling so I guess I can sort of understand why you rely on it.

            They still teach abstinence. It’s taught in the states with the highest teen pregnancy rates. So, it actually doesn’t “work for the most part.”

            Tell me what exactly about my response didn’t make sense to you? You sound like Rick Perry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWlbN2b1PGg …and just as convincing.

          • Stryder51

            Some things they don’t need to know until they’re older. And then it’s up the PARENTS, not the school to explain things to them. This is just some sort of twisted indoctrination

          • Glen Saunders

            And you are obviously not 16. You are a liberal troll running up and down this thread creating hate and discontent. Go back to your play room and ask your Mommy for your picture books.

          • Sandy

            AMEN, brutha….

          • cl0ckw0rk

            Actually, no, I am sixteen. Nor am I a troll. I am stating my opinions to people.

  • Admiral America

    OMG I can’t believe this is even real! They never even gave us anything like this in high school sex ed! What’s next real naked photos? Then sex videos to teach the kids? Then the pervert teachers get hands on?

  • Cindy

    Let’s just throw pot at the kids, let them have sex all day and so what if they get pregnant, we can take care of that too. Oh and they don’t even have to work! Why grow up if you don’t have to? Oh and by the way, be sure and pull that lever every once and awhile for the democrat.

    • cl0ckw0rk

      What?

      I don’t understand what your point is. Are you saying that legalizing pot would be a bad idea, as well as lowering the age of consent?

      First of all, regarding pot, make it legal. But tax it and regulate it like alcohol. Have similar laws, “no smoking and driving” and “you must be age X to smoke.” Then, tax the hell out of it so it makes money, too.

      About lowering the age of consent, a book meant to educate children (that isn’t even forced in their faces, it’s on the RECOMMENDED reading list, not the FORCED reading list) is going to cause children to start having sex at an age way too young. No, not really. I was fully aware of what sex was and what it did by fifth grade, and I still haven’t had sex. I’m sixteen.

      • Sandy

        …and you are far too young and naive to know what these liberals are up to….

        • cl0ckw0rk

          I am? Because of my age, I can’t know what these “EVIL LIBERALS” are up to?

          These “EVIL LIBERALS” want to educate children. They want to TEACH them. Not have sex with them. You’re blatantly denying that, figuring you’d rather have children be ignorant than exposed to something considered socially taboo.

          That’s kind of anti-intellectual, is it not?

          • Sandy

            yes, they want to teach them about something they should be doing as adults….why do they NEED to learn about sex in 4th grade? It’s because liberalism is a mental disorder. anti-intellectual? The school systems currently ARE anti-intellectual……they are indoctrination centers for liberal thinking….booze’em up, sex’em up….nope….this is in-appropriate at this age, and it s the PARENTS’ responsibility – NOT YOURS and NOT the school systems….

          • cl0ckw0rk

            Kids start masturbating by sixth grade usually, and kids are naturally curious about sex because adults keep it under wraps. It’d be best to have kids learn early on about things so that when they start doing them (which WILL happen, whether you agree with it or not- kids have sex in middle school and high school,) they don’t mess up and hurt themselves somehow.

            And how the hell is a school anti-intellectual? You’re saying that when kids go to school, they’re served beers with a side of hookers. No, they’re educated, and if they must be educated about beer and hookers because it relates to a topic in class, let them be. You’re saying that IGNORANCE is GOOD, which is technically anti-intellectualism by definition.

            Not only this, you seem very confused on the definition of “liberal.” By definition, “liberal” means “open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values.” Sometimes, you need to be liberal. Not all traditional values are great, holy objects that save us. Most traditional values are actually detrimental- racism, sexism, and bigotry are or were once “traditional values” among Americans.

          • Sandy

            wow…thatis truly a twisted arguement, and it shows your ignorance with history. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

          • cl0ckw0rk

            It shows my “ignorance with history?” And then you say “liberalism is a mental disorder,” besides having no scientific evidence to back that. In the nineteen fifties, and before sexism, racism and bigotry WERE commonplace. You need to read a book.

          • Sandy

            no, you need to read books about how civilizations decline, and the breakdown of the family is a communist tactic…sexism, racism, and liberal bigotry are at an all time high because of liberals….

          • cl0ckw0rk

            Oh, so I’m the sexist, racist bigot? What? That seriously doesn’t make any sense at all. Because my political ideas are more on the left wing, which, keep in mind means “willing to try and accept new ideas” pretty much, that means, I’m a racist sexist bigot.

            I’m not following your argument.

          • Sandy

            they aren’t “new ideas”, like Marxism….these “ideas” have been tried and failed….liberals are the racists and bigots to the ideas that have worked for hundreds of years…

          • cl0ckw0rk

            Liberals are the “racists and bigots” to the ideas that have worked for hundreds of years? I think you’re trying to say that we’re prejudiced against them, but your horrendous English skills make it difficult for me to comprehend.

            Nonetheless, the idea that sex shouldn’t be a taboo subject isn’t necessarily new, but it’s gained prominence among society within the last twenty years or so. And, being pro-intellectual isn’t exactly new, either, but, it’s gained more prominence since the renaissance and the age of enlightenment first began. Before, society was superstitious, stupid, and overly-religious.

            Keep in mind that Marxism could work, it’s just that past or current attempts at it weren’t pure, they were motivated by greed.

          • Sandy

            checkmate….match….Marxism can NEVER work….exactly what every uneducated non-history reading liberal thinks, and they goose-step along with their lord and saviour, Obugger, straight to the gulags..Marxism, fascism and NAZIs=national socialists – right of Stalin, but still left wing, killed 110 million people in the last century, and continue to do so. UNBELIEVEABLE…..why don’t you try reading “The Aquariums of Pyongyang”…the matriarch of that family said exactly the same thing years ago….and they spent the rest of their lives in Camp 19 in North Korea except for the son who escaped, and he was debriefed by our intel community…..you are as wacky as Dennis Rodman….

          • Reebie

            clickwork: 4th graders are way too young for all those pictures and subjects. Start with how babies are made in a softer, gentler manner. All they are going to do at that age is read the book, make fun of the pictures, and regard it as porn because they are CHILDREN! The liberals won’t allow some well-known books in the schools but they want our children seeing this trash! I am 68 years old, and over the years I have seen liberals become a low-class, low morals, low standards group of sick people. Us law-abiding, God loving, moral citizens need to wake up start fighting them and put them “down” where they belong. MY OPINION

          • mountaine

            It sounds like you’re only 16 by the way you speak. I happen to be 73, come from a family of 13. When I wanted to know about sex, I asked my mother. What she didn’t tell me, I found out from my sisters. The number one rule that was in our house was….we weren’t told certain things until we asked about them. To me and the way I was brought up is sex is expressing your love for the “special” person you want to marry and live the rest of your life with………not every Tom. “DICK” or Harry in town ! These young kids are way too young to understand any of this !!! Their “childhood” is being taken away from them !!!
            We’ve been married going on 53 years now. Four kids, and 9 grandkids ! So it has worked out fine !!!
            Sex is suppose to be special, and I can’t see this ending up very good !!!

          • cl0ckw0rk

            Their childhoods are being taken away because they’re LEARNING about things that are completely natural? What?

            “Knowledge is power, and knowledge can be the difference between life and death.” – Francis Bacon

          • Z0317

            Sex in fourth grade is completely natural?? No it is not, but obviously soon will be when the schools are providing this type of information and there are so many that think it is ‘perfectly’ fine.

          • cl0ckw0rk

            Learning about sex in fourth grade is FINE. Puberty in children often begins in fourth grade. Hell, it started for me in fourth grade. Children aren’t going to have sex automatically because a book tells them how to, and what sex is what it is. They’re not even giving us the full idea of this book, they’re taking snippets of it that they feel we need to see and letting us discuss about it. Who knows if this book has a section on consent, and what not?

      • Cindy

        I am saying and since you are sixteen I hope you can understand, since I know sixteen year olds usually don’t care what goes on in the world around them, is that certain people in one political party seem to be making it ok to be slackers and isn’t that just wonderful. No more work to worry about, just let us take care of you. Switch from mom and dad to us the government and we will take care of you. We only ask one little thing from you and that is too keep us in power. It is an age old philosophy.

  • Johnathon

    This is my responsibility to educate my kids for this subject matter. I would expect to be asked permission to relate this material. Like others have stated, we remove God from school but it’s ok to introduce this without discussing it with parents. I just found out they are covering situations that are more social regarding sex and I certainly wasn’t consulted about that. They’re forcing parents to open dialogue on these issues earlier than they should have to worry about it. Wheres the science or evidence to show that it has to be covered so young. My daughter is in grade 6 and just starting to get curious about this stuff. It wasn’t even on the radar in grade 4!

  • bamcintyre

    If 4th graders are too “innocent” for sex, then why is that the preferred age for muslim brides and fundamentalist preachers?

    • SAgirl

      There is a HUGE difference in Americans and muslims. Muslim children have no knowledge about any of that and are taught its taboo for far too long. Which of course, I believe, leads to the horrible rapes and mistreatment of women (4th grade brides).

    • Lynn Page

      Because they are a perverted as the idea of having this as “normal” education for 9 year olds….

  • Tiffany

    I learned about reproduction – in school – in 3rd grade, with handouts and a movie, in 1978. 14 or 15 is WAAAAY too late to broach this subject, as a significant number of kids will already be DOING it, having figured it out on their own. Do you really want them to have the self taught knowledge WITHOUT the STD and Pregnancy warnings?!

    • James

      I was worried that there we no one with any common sense, since majority of the people in this thread seem to think that this is a bad idea, they also probably still think “rock and roll” is the devil, that’s anyone who doesn’t believe in there hebrew god is horrible and a terrorist and that teaching sex is the same as pornography. Republicans think Democrats are trying to take over the United States and Democrats think that Republicans are trying to take over the United States.

      • Sandy

        no, SOCIALISTS are trying to take over the United States, and the moral breakdown of the family and replacing parental teaching is the way it is done…try reading any books on Communist takeovers…heck, watch the middle scenes of the “Killing Fields” where kids are being indoctrinated to not follow their parents but to follow the State….get educated….

      • Reebie

        Both parties want “power” and that is all they care about. they have somewhere come together and mainly are fighting for the power between themselves, nothing to do fighting for us or the Constitution. This book is a little TOO much for 4th graders. It should be more gentle by just explaining how babies are made, not all the masterbation, pictures, etc.

    • Sandy

      try abstinence….oh, no, you can’t do that!!! “they will do it anyway”….so we should also have parents be facilitators for drinking and drugs too?
      Liberalism is a mental disorder…..

      • the new guy

        Says the most hostile person here

        • Sandy

          boo hoo hoo….metrosexual….

          • Tiffany

            So it’s finally devolved to name-calling…

          • Sandy

            yah, a little trick we picked up from all the Alynsky-ite Obama lovers….

    • EEKKK

      Apparently, Tiffany, you like too many others are not taking responsibility for your children’s education. On this subject and many others the burden of education is the parents responsibility not the governments. If you want the government out of your bedroom then you better step up.

      • disgruntledatheist

        I take responsibility everyday with my daughters education, I make sure that God is out of school and that they teach evolution and only real science

        • Sandy

          oh, such an intellectual liberal…NOT….science is fungible…GOD is not….this country has gone so far downhill since we eliminated GOD in the schools, and you are a perfect example. “Religion without science is blind;science without religion is lame”. Albert Einstein

          • disgruntled liberal?

            “Don’t believe a word I say because you can’t back it up” – Jesus

          • Sandy

            want to give the passage from the Bible on that? LOL….

          • Sandy

            tick, tock, tick, tock

          • Westnile

            But didn’t god teach us not to be ashamed of our bodies???
            Oh wait, I forgot, god is a fairy tale and you are a moron.

          • Sandy

            Nooo, because that is not what GOD said, moron…try reading the Bible…oh wait, that would mean you would actually have to read instead of goose-stepping with your lord and saviour, Obugger….

          • Tiffany

            “The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.” ~Albert Einstein

          • captinislam

            awesome, God is alive and strong in Muslim countries as well and look how good they are…. So you support Islam? Allah is the Hebrew God, Christans worship the Hebrew God. You are one and the same

          • SupportMcCarthyism

            “a”llah is the Hebrew God? Where did you get your facts from?

          • Sandy

            that is the most intellectually dishonest arguement tonite…unbelieveable….food good, fire hot…got it, lib?

          • Murray Smith

            “It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.”
            ~Albert Einstein, 1954

          • Sandy

            He didn’t believe in a “personal GOD”…like Jefferson…he didn’t deny GOD….liberals…ROTFLMAO

          • Murray Smith

            Actually he did, despite your ardent desire to believe otherwise. And ad hominem does nothing to bolster your already weak and specious claims as to what Einstein believed. But it seems to be the preserve of the religiously deluded to misquote and insult when proved wrong.

          • Sandy

            yah, I guess that’s why he said that at the end of his life…he did believe in GOD, not just on a personal level, much like the Deists like Jefferson……religiously deluded? No, atheists are just so arrogant that they just can’t believe that there is something greater than themselves…they only think of earthly things…..too bad….you all think that the universe “just happened”…very sad….so what happens when you die, and you will? The Bible has been verified in many archeological digs in the past 200 years, or were those Dead Sea Scrolls just made up? Tey just found Caiphus’s tomb – the preist who put christ on the cross? Gee, just an anomaly? try going to mcleanbible.org all the scientific backing is there….

          • Murray Smith

            My reply is simply a refutation of your penchant for misquoting Einstein. But it seems you are clairvoyant as you now claim to know what I believe and now want to flay me with your religious tomes. What I believe and my political stance (if any), is irrelevant and completely unknown to you. I would suggest your tendency toward generalization and assumption is what has landed you in this religious pickle you now feel compelled to defend at every opportunity in the first place. Have a good day.

          • Sandy

            your political stance, ahem, is completely transparent….ahem…and that wasn’t a misquote of Einstein, ahem….why don’t you try going to that website and learning something….the science of Christianity is all there…if you dare….I hope you will…..it’ll change your life…

      • Sandy

        yep…keeping the gov out of our bedrooms…isn’t that what these libs want? Not really…they want it THEIR way…..bossy liberals who think they know what is best…like their lord and saviour, Obugger….all stuck in the “yes we can, hope and change” stupor.

        • james

          you say they wanted their way yet you’re totally trying to impose your way, and you don’t see an issue with that at all?

          • Sandy

            no, because it was the “way” that was done for 200 years until liberal activists took over the schools….you have a great deal of growing up to do….and reading….

          • thatoneguy

            so what about the other 13.6 billion years, those don’t count

          • Sandy

            no, they don’t……this is America…..

        • Tiffany

          I don’t HAVE any kids (not able to) thank you very much. However, I think you have me in the wrong pigeonhole, sweetheart. I don’t think sex is a “sin,” but I also don’t want the government to tell me I have to buy health insurance or be taxed, or to try to take my guns.

          In fact, I can’t really BE pigeonholed. I’m agnostic, believe that Marriage should be between two people who love and respect each other regardless of gender, believe wholly in the Constitution, with especial emphasis (my own) on the 1st amendment (religion and speech), the 2nd amendment, the 4th, and the 10th.

          I believe that outlawing Big Gulps is stupid, and that the War on Drugs has FAILED miserably.

          I believe that the current government is WAY to big, and would love to see the current man in charge IMPEACHED.

          So don’t presume that you know me from one simple paragraph in response to one issue. If I had kids, they would have probably had this very book in their hands, at home, with the requisite “Talk.”

          But for those parents too squeamish, religious, or just indifferent who DON’T talk about the issue at home, I feel that this is necessary information for a child to have, early enough to keeo them from getting “caught,” either by a pregnancy, or a case of the “never-get-overs.” i.e. herpes.

          • Sandy

            well, there is hope for you, but, this material is nothing but having kids say it’s okay to have sex because “they are teaching it”….hmmmm…..

          • Tiffany

            I NEVER said it was ok for kids to have sex because they are teaching it! I said that kids will, whether we want them to or not. If we educate them on the risks, then they are less likely to get in trouble if/when they DO decide to do it.

            I was 8 when I learned about the birds and the bees. I was 18 when I put that knowledge into practice.

            As I understand it, the book also says that abstinence is best. Not that Abstinence Only education works either…

          • Sandy

            teaching abstience is better than having authority figures who are strangers teach it, therefore legitimizing it….

      • frabn

        Apparently, EEKKK, you like too many others do not have the common sense and basic intelligence required to realize that teenagers rebel against their parents. On this subject and many others, teenagers will not listen to their parents no matter how well they educate them on the subject, and go right ahead and have sex at a young age. Or have you lived under a rock your entire life?

        • Kelly Johnson

          OH and teens listen so well to school teachers too. I seriously put teachers and parents in the same category at that age and so did many others.

        • Sandy

          yep, so just quit…quit trying to be good parents…the liberal way always is to throw your hands up and have someone else, the schools, do your parenting…yah, good job….

        • Brian

          We are not talking about teens. These kids are 8-10 years old depending on their age starting school and their ability to learn. Our kids do not need to be taught to masterbate by the government at 9 yrs old? They should be locked up for sexual abuse! If you sat down with your child at 9 yrs old showed them pictures of people masterbating and told them it was normal and this is how you do it most Child protective services would remove the child from you and prosecute you as the parent
          for sexual abuse.

          • Sandy

            so why should the schools be teaching it, HMMMM????? It’s the same arguement….strangers teaching kids to masturbate is better????? What the hell is wrong with you?

        • msueh

          Please don’t fall into the old trap of stereotyping all teens :-) Not all rebel so overtly and negatively as you seem to imply. Mine were virgins on their wedding nights :-)

          (I know, the high school kids I teach don’t believe me, either, but that’s ok. The boys all want to know if I have any more daughters available. Chastity still is desirable & admired because it’s such a rare thing.)

      • Tiffany

        EEKKK, I have no children (unable to.) But judging from my own past behavior, I’d have told them myself about 3rd grade, and found a good set of props (pamphlet, book, video, whatever is out there now that I had read/watched and vetted as appropriate myself.)

        Having learned about reproduction myself at 8, when asked at 12 by three 8-9 year olds where babies come from, I gave them as much of the “talk” as I could, without props, but with correct terminology.

        Since my own kids would have already had this “talk” from me, I have no problem with further education done at school.

        And not only do I want the government out of my bedroom, I want them out of my gun safe, and out of my health insurance. They have proven, time and again, that all they’ll do with health insurance is screw it up and make it more expensive, and fewer people will end up covered.

        My beliefs lean more toward Libertarian than anything. Freedom, rather than security. I take responsibility for my own safety, as does my husband.

    • nathan

      shouldn’t that be a parent’s responsibility to educate their children about sex?

      • Tiffany

        Had I been able to have kids of my own, they WOULD have learned about it, from me, about a year earlier.

      • LoveInsanity

        It should be but they don’t do it or they don’t do it properly.

  • james

    everybody needs to start thinking for themselves here,teaching a child about sex is completely normal. We all got here because of sex its been happening since humans and all other species in the universe started reproducing and to be scared of it is ridiculous

    • Rachel R

      Yes, we did get here because of sex, but I for one want to be the one to talk to my girls about what is and isn’t appropriate and about their bodies WHEN it is time! My 9 year old doesn’t need to know how to put a condom on a man or what masturbation is! This is completely inappropriate for their age and maturity level. My 9 year old would run crying from the room because she doesn’t like being embarrassed and this would definitely embarrass her!

  • Brad Harvey

    It’s a waste of time. Who needs to learn how to masturbate? Sooner or later, you figure it out for yourself.

  • Guest

    I actually think education like this is important, even at a young age – if, of course, parents were to agree. Learning about the human body and your own development shouldn’t be seen as dirty because these are all natural things and the more clued up we are, the better! I remember in primary school we covered puberty a little towards the end of the final school year and then in secondary school the sex ed was very sparse. Puberty, hormones, sexual impulses and everything else which falls in to your lap during the time of being a teenager (or sometimes even younger) is very scary and confusing and I know that if, I for one, had better sex ed, I wouldn’t have found the whole puberty adventure quite so scary. It’s just biology and I don’t think having a little understanding of your own body takes away your innocence.

    • Charles

      I was also taught about the human body in school. But there is a big leap between and teaching how to masturbate! Are you kidding? In school books? C’mon!

      • Kelly Johnson

        I agree! I don’t think anyone needs to “learn” how to masturbate! 4th graders don’t’ need to know how to put on a condom.

    • Kathleen Hawkins

      I remember in 6th grade learning about reproduction and how to take care of yourself. That was enough I don’t agree with teaching kids about masterbating at all and this coming from the parent of school age kids.

    • eemc2k

      Kids are going to figure out how to masturbate on their own at whatever age they start…you can’t stop it. My son asked me to explain things when he was 8 years old…so I did. Because he asked and he was ready and he thought there was something wrong with him for wanting to “touch himself” because it felt good. Parents need to deal with this subject and be HONEST with your kids…use proper names of things and answer their questions. Hopefully, with me being very opened and willing to discuss everything on his mind, he won’t screw up his teenage years as badly as I did!

    • sd

      There is a big difference between a 9 year old and a teenager. 4th graders are young children, not teenagers. They have not even gone into puberty yet, so there are no sexual urges or menstrual periods at that age. The only thing that would be scary or confusing would be presenting these children with the soft porn materials the Libs are passing off as educational materials.

  • Donna

    Showing kids how to masturbate is appalling and you are idiots if you condone it! That is totally unnecessary and to have a picture of a boy handling himself putting on a condom is ridiculous. Teaching children about sex needs to handled a WHOLE LOT more delicately that this. Whose idea was this to teach children how to masturbate? How low can we go??!!

    • texasgirl46

      In Tennessee, my guess would be common core…

      • sd

        more like common porn

  • texasgirl46

    I’d go ballistic……

  • Elizabeth Downey

    I think it is a good idea to teach kids about their body and what the other sex looks like but how to masturbate? REALLY? CHILDREN? OMG this is beyond disgusting…give the boys and the girls one of those real baby dolls that wakes you up multiple times a night and it is programed to record how you take care of it…that will fix the having sex when a teen…I know it would me bc I like my sleep too much…

    • stonemike

      Liz, you’re wasting your time discussing this subject with “progressives”, they are ALL LIARS ! To bring up masturbation just begs these “liars” to lie to you! Believe me, these perverts have much more on their minds than the welfare of children !

  • David Wiley

    According to reviews at Amazon.com, the book also teaches about anal sex, abortion, aids and that the homosexual lifestyle is perfectly normal. This book is obviously the Leftists continued attempt in continuing to push their Liberal agenda and dogma and if you want to change the future, start with the youth! The Nazi party did this with absolute perfection! For those that have children in school, ask for a list of the books they are teaching with.

    • Leif Andersen

      If you knew anything about history you would know that the National Socialists in Germany RESTORED sexual morality to society. Under the Wiemar government Berlin was the most deviant city in the world filled with prostitutes and decadence. The NSDAP encouraged social conservatism.

      • stonemike

        You are correct, but Wiley seems to be correlating the “propaganda abilities” of these marxists and the Germans! People who deny TRUTH refuse to believe the Nazis did anything positive for the German nation , they understandably think only of war crimes !

        • msueh

          (have to upvote you, even though my German Jewish grandparents emigrated to the US d/t running from hitler…)

          • stonemike

            I certainly dont denigrate early immigration, we needed these people, many of them journeymen of great ability! No one can tell me we need millions of immigrants, millions who “hate America, when we have gillions of Americans laying on their assss living off welfare! My ancestors were German-Irish and they came in the late 1600s, we love this country and despise the govt !

      • David Wiley

        Strawman attack and adds nothing to my original statement.

  • TWBFMarkII

    Brought to you by the same people that think children should never see a gun (even one nibbled out of a pop tart) or learn anything about firearms, because….
    “protecting the children is important.”

  • Brian

    We are not talking about teens. These kids are 8-10 years old depending on their age starting school and their ability to learn. Our kids do not need to be taught to masterbate by the government at 9 yrs old? They should be locked up for sexual abuse! If you sat down with your child at 9 yrs old showed them pictures of people masterbating and told them it was normal and this is how you do it most Child protective services would remove the child from you and prosecute you, the parent for sexual abuse.

    • mountaine

      OMG ! What is the matter with these assh0les ????????? Just because this is their way of life doesn’t mean it has to be for our kids !?!? Are there any decent people out there ?!??!?! When I was growing up this was known as “private” parts ! Does anyone know what “private” means ?!?!!? Means it’s none of your business ! This isn’t teaching them anything GOOD ! It’s teaching them how to stay home and play with themselves or a friend ! A lot of education that will get them !

    • stonemike

      Thank you Brian !

  • SupportMcCarthyism

    Brought to you by the same people who support Obama. Need I say more?

    • Sandy

      AMEN…and Joe was proven right…”the Venona Papers”…..

    • stonemike

      I love your handle, if we had criminalized “marxism” of all kinds in the 50s, we wouldnt be under the “dicktator Interloper !”

      • msueh

        I was gonna say that; you beat me to it! :-D

      • SupportMcCarthyism

        How true.

  • lillianel

    Well, this is just one way to learn about this…the others are at school, from “the talk” with our parents, on the internet, or from the magazines you males keep in your sock drawers…or, as I did, on the bus ride to and from school listening to younger girls’ experiences!!!!!

  • justme476

    What the crap!? Who needs to see these things in the FOURTH GRADE! Most kids in the forth grade haven’t even figured out they are a sexual being, much less learn about masturbation! What in the world.

    • stonemike

      Just your usual progressive acceptance of perversion and exploitation of kids! Hhhmmm, sounds a lot like islam !

  • Buzzbw2

    Is this for real? this seems way too far fetched! Especially in the south. And esp for 4th graders!

  • Jerry

    Somethings are better off left up to the parents. With that said, sex ed class should be cleared with the parents first, If the parent agrees that the school would be better for them to learn it from, then they can agree to let the school teach it. If the parent does not agree then the child should be excused from the class and the parent will teach the child when they are ready. It is not he governments job to teach this subject matter without the parents consent. As for it being taught in the 4th grade, Again that is for the parent to decided and the school should fist get an okay from the parents before teaching it.

    • Erin Ashley Hedges

      In my school, It was. Every year. The parents that said no were the ones who ended up having the most grandchildren by the time the kids were 17

      • Jerry

        Please show your proof that backs up your claim. Anyone can claim anything they want is fact, But without any proof you are just a troll spreading your personal opinion as fact. Stop wasting our time if you are not going to prove what you say is true.

        • Erin Ashley Hedges
          • Jerry

            You made a specific statement that in your school every year the parents that said no were the ones that had the most grandchildren by the time they were 17, Please show the study done on your school that shows this to be a fact. the link you posted has nothing to do with what you claim happened ever year at your school, This seems to be just your opinion of what happened at your school. The study you showed does not prove that parents that teach their own children about sex is any less or more likely to be grandparents then those that let the school teach them.. You are confusing a study about abstinence verses sex ed being taught in school to parents choosing to teach they own children verses schools teaching it. Once again, please show proof of what you claimed is fact.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            There was no study done at the school, it was a matter of students paying attention to what was going on. Students, faculty, everybody watched, and people noticed.

          • Jerry

            That is still just an opinion. It is not a fact. There is no proof that being taught about sex at home is less or more likely to lead to having grandchildren at a younger age. . Now not being taught at all is another thing altogether .I knew many girls that got pregnant also, But I have no clue if they had sex ed or if their parents taught them or not. I am sure you did not either. You are just making an assumption that what you say is what happened. But you really have no proof one way or the other. My point is your comment is not based on fact, It is only your opinion. Lets not confuse people with opinions. Lets educate them with facts. Thanks and have a nice evening.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            I’m not just making an assumption, though. I was in a semi small school, of less than 800 for a graduating high school class. It was easy to remember “hey, there’s that girl who’s parents said she couldn’t take sex ed, and she’s pregnant now. Studies have proven that abstinence only programs are horrible for kids, if a parent refuses their child for sex ed in school, that means they disagree with what’s being taught. Which means they are likely only teaching their children abstinence only, which, as mentioned multiple times, is a somewhat horrible sex ed program. Telling your kids not to do something is often comparable with flat out saying “do it wrong, because I didn’t tell you any way to do it safely”.

          • Jerry

            You seem to assume way to much without any proof. You do not know what their parents taught them or not. As for abstinence, I agree it is a failure. When the time is right which is what the article is about, all options should be put on the table. But it is still the parents choose as to when and where to teach it or not to teach it at all. It is not the nanny state which you also seem to be happy to embrace job to teach it. Right or wrong it is the parents that has the final say on raising their children. Not the governments.

  • todd

    when you work at a hospital and have to go ask the 11 year old what she plans on naming her 2nd child by a kid that is 10 years old, it makes you wonder who should be teaching these kids. the parents aren’t doing the job, the school didn’t do the job, so i’m guessing they are finding out from their friends. Somebody needs to be telling these kids something. i know we, my wife and i, started talking about it when our kids were about 9 or 10 years old, because i had already seen what happens when you don’t start soon enough.

    • Renie

      agreed and if we dont speak to them about this stuff then some little cretan in school will . I had my 7 year old daughter discussing her friend kissing her boyfriend last night … what happened did we stop buying our children toys !!!??? ahhhhhhh 7 and 8 year olds shouldnt even be worried about boy friends and girls friends just friends would be nice. So sad that they feel the need to grow up so quickly… Where has child hood gone :( . We talk openly about anything and everything in our household and our kids KNOW what they need to know and probably that bit more in hope they are aware and will just slow down a little

    • msueh

      Ya, I started about that time with mine, also, with some tastefully-illustrated books, and they had ME to question, in PRIVATE, not a government ninny in a classroom full of about two dozen boys AND girls. It should be a private discussion, one-on-one, when the children are intrigued enough to ask. The information should never be forced upon them as these “educational materials” will be doing. Kids mature at different times and what interests one will embarrass another.

      • stonemike

        Good, sensible post !

    • sd

      Most females I know, myself included, didn’t even get our first period until we were 13. So, a pregnant 11 year old would be a rare exception.

    • stonemike

      Teach ‘em anything you want, the problem is parents are not around! They abandon these kids except on “check day” from govt !

  • mlo

    You got to wonder what the underlying motive is. Whenever I see crap like this, I think back to reading about how pedophiles are misunderstood. MISUNDERSTOOD? Really What’s the real agenda? I kind of see it as opening the door to pedos molesting kids, except, since they’re misunderstood, it’s not molestation … and it’s like telling kids, it’s ok, and if someone touches you, that’s ok too. These are 4th grdrs. They don’t need to know masterbation from some book the government THINKS they need. Child exploitation needs to end, and crap like this does not help at all. Whatever happened to parenting? Oh yeah, the government thinks they can do a better job. Afterall don’t they want to own your kids? This country’s morals are certainly taking a nosedive deeper into the abyss on a daily basis.

    • stonemike

      Many, many of the politicians, teachers, and parents who back this crap ARE PEDOPHILES, theyre getting off seeing kids exposed to it! If you think about it, these perverts are pretty much in line with “muslim pedophilia !”

      • mlo

        that’s why there is BIG money in child exploitation. How deep does the rabbit hole go? Unfortunately, child porn and child sex brings in the big bucks. Let a young child think it’s ok to explore at a younger age, opens up to adult perverts expoilti-’er exploring the child.

        • stonemike

          Kinda my point , its far better to protect a fourth grade child from these progressive perverts than allow the ‘derangement of progressivism” to ruin their whole life!

      • mlo

        if you haven’t check out http://franklinscandal.com/ And wonder why child porn/sex is on the rise.

        • stonemike

          Sad , to me child molesting should be met with death !

  • Holly Jackson-Ogle

    The visual representations given in this book are completely INAPPROPRIATE!!! A teacher giving a young child this book IS NO DIFFERENT than handing them pornography! This can not be allowed. I am disgusted, enraged, and offended by this!

    • Erin Ashley Hedges

      Porn is sexualized images of nudity. How is this that?

      • merryinfidel

        Showing a boy and girl masturbating is sexualized imagery dip $hit.

      • jones

        Oh it’s not sexual at all to show images of people masturbating… are you delusional or ridiculously ignorant???!?!?

        • Erin Ashley Hedges

          The only way I could show you the difference between this and porn would be to post an actual porn photo of masturbation, but I’m pretty sure that would get me banned. Porn is not in any way educational. This is meant to be educational. This does not inspire feelings of sexual arousal, whatsoever. At least it doesn’t for me, if you’re getting aroused by a children’s book, though, buddy, I have some bad news for you

        • stonemike

          Erin is both of your inquiries !

      • stonemike

        Hoe are nude pictures of bodies not sexual? Boy , you must be a VERY COLD FISH !

    • stonemike

      All teachers politicians and parents who condone this mess ARE PORNOGRAPHERS !

  • SFCRetired

    I’ve heard far too many parents say, “Oh, we don’t want to teach them about sex. It’ll just make them curious.” Then they wonder why little Mary winds up pregnant at eleven or twelve or why little Johnny has his second case of STD.

    • Penny Mulligan

      Funny no one “taught’ me about sex and I managed to figure it out okay. You want you want your kid to be having sex at 11 & 12 fine, teach them whatever you want but leave my kids out of it!!!

    • Trina

      It’s one thing to share the birds and the bees but lines are crossed into religious issues. Some religions aren’t okay with birth control or masturbation for instance. Here are 4th graders learning it! Fourth grade is much too young. Schools have too much power. If an 11 year old gets pregnant there is a much bigger problem than a school not educating her. I’d say the problem is more like the parent isn’t around, hasn’t taught them to have morals or the kid has too much freedom etc.

    • Grizzly907

      This is exactly how little Mary winds up getting pregnant at 12. You didn’t have little Mary getting pregnant in the fifties and they didn’t teach this crap!!!! Little Mary starting getting pregnant at 11 once the sixties radicals took over!!!!!

  • Lara Lohne

    Proper and age appropriate sexual education is not going to turn children into sex-crazed, mindless, monsters who only think about sex and masturbation. Quite the contrary, actually. If you take away the ‘mystery’ so to speak, the curiosity to express in potentially harmful ways won’t happen anymore. They will know how to experiment in safe, natural and harmless ways. And there is nothing sinful, wrong, immoral or unnatural about expressing sexual curiosity!

    Really? Have you all forgotten that this is the age where children begin to change physically? I was in 4th grade and already have arm pit and pubic hair and was beginning to develop breasts. THIS is the age to teach children about what is going on in their bodies. Not when they are already there and their bodies are screaming for sexual release. THAT is what causes teen pregnancy, lack of education, lack of understanding.

    Get off your moral high horse. Christian values are not wholesome, they are antiquated and backward and meant to create slaves who only act as they are told and never question. Live that way if you wish, but don’t try and push that way of being on me, or my children!

    We need to accept that we are sexual creatures and there is nothing wrong with being such. And our children, if they learn about their own bodies, and other people’s bodies also, they will feel less shame about being a sexual creature. Or is that what you want? Your children to feel shame for being sexual? There is nothing wrong with it, it’s normal, it’s natural and understanding that is the first step to learning how to control it.

    • msueh

      It’s not shame that children feel, it’s an “anything goes” attitude that doesn’t separate human beings from animals. Actually, we’re not far from there now; animals have more “rights” than people. Look at the more concern for animal protection than protection for BABIES in the womb….

      • Lara Lohne

        I am not against abortion if a woman finds herself in a situation where she is expecting but knows she will be unable to care for the child, and cannot just give it to someone else either (I couldn’t have done that). So really, your argument has no force for me. What we need to be protecting, if you don’t want abortions to happen, is unwanted pregnancies and that begins with proper education about sex and sexuality. And that needs to start at the age where children begin to change, and that is 4th grade. Deny it all you like, it doesn’t make it less true. And really, I see nothing in how people are that makes them any more than animals. So that argument also has no substance with me. Got anything else?

        • msueh

          If a woman weren’t so selfish she couldn’t control herself & keep her panties up, maybe she should be sterilized before putting herself in a position to conceive. Got anything else?

          • Lara Lohne

            You really think that going there is going to give your position points? Forced sterilization has been practiced upon people in the past. There are some organizations that would like to continue that practice. Why is your right to have sex any better than someone else’s right just because they happen to be more fertile than you are and so birth control doesn’t work? (after all, there isn’t any form that is 100% successful.) Yeah, I speak from experience in this regard.

            Oh, we could start practicing genital mutilation on new borns to keep them virgins. Would that make you happy? How about we stop seeing our children as ‘precious little snowflakes’, and start seeing them as their own thinking, feeling, individuals who have their own desires, needs, etc. that may be different from our own?

            For the record, your choice of words is very much approaching support of rape culture. You might want to rethink that, unless you feel all rape victims are to blame.

          • msueh

            WHO said anything about forced sterilization???? And I don’t think someone else is “more fertile”; I had absolutely no problem conceiving each of my five young’uns.

            And, wrong, there is one way that is 100% successful: Keep your panties up if you don’t wanna get preggers! Whoops, is your middle name sandra?

            No support of rape culture here; I had this same discussion with my own mother way back when. Rape is a horrible act, but it wasn’t the fault of the possible conceived infant – not fetus.

          • Lara Lohne

            “…maybe she should be sterilized before putting herself in a position to conceive.”

            Forgive me, but when I see these words, I see nothing about her making the decision to sterilize herself, just that she should be sterilized. To me, I’m a black/white thinker, that would be against her will, therefore, forced.

            I had no problem conceiving my six children. But I sure did have trouble NOT getting pregnant, even after my doctor told me I’d need fertility treatments to get pregnant again. She told me that just before I got pregnant with my fifth child. I tried multiple forms of birth control, and they didn’t work. I even ended up getting pregnant with twins once while on the pill, and losing one before I knew I was pregnant (yes, spontaneous abortion of one twin is possible, though rare.) After my sixth was born, I had myself sterilized (tubal ligation) because I was 36 years old, and I figured six children was enough and if I didn’t take things into my own hands, knowing birth control doesn’t work for me, then I would most likely end up pregnant again.

            My older sister though had to try hard for each of her six children. She actually stated once that she wished she could get pregnant at the drop of a hat, like I could.

    • Penny Mulligan

      It’s your types that are pushing your views on our kids. Keep sex “education” out of schools and let parents teach values and moral – or in your case No values or morals.

      • Lara Lohne

        You think I have no morals? And how do you know me again? Oh! That’s right, You don’t. So I’ll thank you to keep your judgement off of me.

        The schools are taking on the task of educating children about sex because parents aren’t. I have taught my own children as it was appropriate. And yeah, I first spoke to my oldest child about where babies come from when she was 4 and asked me. I went into greater detail when she was 9 and started to show signs of development. Oh, and that was 4th grade. She witnessed the birth of her younger sister just a year later. She wanted to be there and I didn’t see any problem with it. She at least knew what to expect when it came time for her own child to be born.

        Do you have a real argument against my stance, with data? or are you going to hurl another strawman attack at me?

        • Penny Mulligan

          Hey, you were the one that said:
          “Get off your moral high horse. Christian values are not wholesome, they are antiquated and backward and meant to create slaves…”
          Your statement made it seem as though you were opposed to morals. I stand corrected.

          • Lara Lohne

            Morals and values existed long before Christians came along. You don’t hold the patent on morals or values. And given that I’ve been treated extremely badly and seem highly hypocritical attitudes in so called Christians, really, calling yourself that, is no different, to my view, than calling yourself a bigot. And you’re proud of it, that’s the saddest thing of all.

    • stonemike

      I seriously people like Lara and the progressives pushing this are ‘perverts” and are getting sexual gratification by seeing little kids exposed to this trash, these fourth graders are the property of their parents, not the state !

      • Lara Lohne

        No child is the property of anyone. My children are not my property. They don’t belong to me, or to anyone else. They are their own beings. Anyone who thinks their children are their property needs to re-read all the historical information about slavery and why it’s a bad thing!

        • stonemike

          What derangement, you favor govt taking total control of American kids yet you believe if parents dont bow to marxism, they should not control theirkids! You screwball progressives are doomed, you believe you can overpower nature! You cant, kids are part of the parent and until they grow up, parents should make all major decisions for them!

          • Lara Lohne

            Where in my statement did I say any of that? You are reading a lot that isn’t there. I’m not speaking, or typing, in metaphor. I speak plainly. There is nothing to read into what I have said, so stop adding things that I didn’t say.

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            People tend to put words in the mouths of those they disagree with on this site.

      • Eduardo

        You own your kids? I see…

        • stonemike

          I DO, do you prefer deranged marxist govt?

    • Angelz

      “Sexual creatures” without self control or discretion turn into animals. How about we let our kids be kids without burdening them with inappropriate and oversexualized content. Virtue…it actually gets you somewhere in life and after.

    • Anonymous

      That’s the problem with you loony Liberals… YOU HAVE NO MORAL VALUES!!!You are some kind of freak if you were in puberty at that age because it doesn’t happen for another 4 or 5 years. 4th graders are 9 and 10 years old. They are children. They are not ready for all that sexual material, much of which is inappropriate. There is no reason to present a book with naked people to these kids. It’s the parents job to talk to their children about sex when they feel it is the right time.

      • msueh

        I am far from being a liberal, and have taken stands against this writer in other posts here, but, unfortunately many kids ARE developing much, much earlier these days. I put it down to all the hormones and such in the foods – mostly meats – the population consumes today. As a very conservative teacher, I see this and have been appalled seeing “little” girls in 3rd grade being MUCH more developed (& menstruating!) than I was in 9th grade!

      • Lara Lohne

        I’m a freak of nature because I began developing breasts at 9 years old? Look it up, that isn’t unnatural. I had pubic hair, armpit hair at 8. I started my period at 13. I’m not a current generation child. I’m 43. My daughter began developing at the same age I did. Not unnatural. But thanks for calling me a freak of nature.

        For some light reading on the subject of female development: http://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/gradeschool/puberty/pages/Physical-Development-Girls-What-to-Expect.aspx

        First paragraph: “The first visible evidence of puberty in girls is a nickel-sized lump under one or both nipples. Breast buds, as
        these are called, typically occur *around age nine or ten, although they may occur much earlier, or somewhat later*. In a study of seventeen thousand girls, it was concluded that girls do not need to be evaluated for precocious puberty unless they are Caucasian girls showing breast development before age seven or African American girls with breast development before age six. It is not known why, but in the United States, African American girls generally enter puberty a year before Caucasian girls; they also have nearly a year’s head start when it comes to menstruation. No similar pattern has been found among boys.”

        That would be fourth grade.

    • Mikayla Hootinanny Num Num

      You are entitled to your views on Christianity, abortion, sex education, parenting, etc. And so am I. Children should be taught this sort of thing from their parents. The parents can decide how much to tell and how to tell it. It is not up to the school to teach topics like sexuality or morality. That is the job of the parent. Otherwise, modern day parents are just people who pop you out, feed, and clothe you. Parents used to teach their kids things not just dump them off at day cares and let schools put whatever the state wants in their innocent minds. Crap like this is why so many parents are homeschooling now.
      It is obvious you and I would disagree on just about everything but certainly we could agree that it should be the parents teaching the children these things. That way no “Christian values” or crap like this It’s Only Natural book would be infiltrating the kids minds. It would be whatever the parent wants. I will teach my children virtue, morality, modesty, Christian values etc. But that is my choice as a future parent.

    • iResist

      Before I get labeled as a “Christian far right wackobird”: I’m not religious and quite liberal socially. I believe abstinence is a joke. I believe couples should be required to live together before they actually marry.

      That said, I feel this is wrong wrong WRONG. Because this book doesn’t just teach kids about biology (which would’ve been fine). Yes, it’s perfectly normal for a 12 year old to touch themselves and wonder why they’re suddenly sprouting hair around their pee-pee. It’s NOT perfectly normal for a 12 year old to learn how to put on a condom and have sex. It’s not “taking the mystery out of it” that turns kids into sex-crazed maniacs, it’s the notion that since sex is “perfectly normal” it can therefore be practiced at any age, with whomever, however many times you like, and with no repercussions or long-term effects. Kinda like riding a rollercoaster – hey, it’s fun, if it feels good do it, go as many times as you like, and as long as you wear the seatbelt, no one gets hurt, right? You might say I’m being ridiculous, but this is just how young kids feel. You don’t teach a 12 year old how to have sex for the same reason you don’t let him/her drive a car or drink liquor.

      Last but not least, government shouldn’t be anywhere near subjects like sex, politics, or religion when it comes to education. It’s my damn business and responsibility to talk to my kids about birds and bees, and my right as a parent to do it anyway I damn well please.

  • Nick25

    We are absolutely crumbling— and it’s all accelerating. Where will all this end?

    • Sandy

      May 16th…D-Day…Washington DC…be there….

    • cl0ckw0rk

      “WHAT?! YOU WANT TO TEACH OUR CHILDREN ABOUT SOMETHING COMPLETELY NATURAL?! THIS SURELY WILL LEAD TO THE DOWNFALL OF ALL OF ‘MURIKA”

      - you.

      That doesn’t even make sense, your argument is “education = downfall of ‘murika.”

  • mlo

    And … it only furthers the agenda that it’s all about ME ME ME. Please yourself, that’s all that counts. Kids these days have no idea what a relationship is about, there is NO LOVE, it’s ALL sex sex sex, and only for themselves. Not about the other. There is no 50/50. Romance is dead. There is no intimacy. I read a while ago, that STD’s affect about 50% of our teens, and that’s even STD’s of the throat. Imagine that. STD’s are spreading like wildfire, and so now let’s get ‘em at an earlier age. The gov can KMA too. I’m sick of the liberals agenda, especially exploiting our youth at such a young age. Come near my future grand-baby and see how far you get LIBTARD. Sorry, but crap like this really steams me.

    • NastyNate

      Kids who can please themselves are less likely to engage in sexual activity with others. The media has oversexualized them at a younger age and hiding the truth from them is how they end up making mistakes. Sheltered kids are stupid kids. Compare the std and teen pregnancy rates in the bible belt with the rest of the country.

  • Anita

    We need to do away with the Dept of Education and turn the education of our children back to the state and local parents.

    • NastyNate

      If parents taught this stuff at home, then the schools wouldn’t have to. Would you rather them learn this from a teacher of strangers on the internet?

  • Grizzly907

    WTF!!! This is extremely inappropriate and WRONG!!!!!!!!!! This is why people need to to home school their kids. Not to mention the fact that they might learn something that will be of use to them once they are adults.

    • stonemike

      That is what my son is doing with his kids, but what should be done is for parents to mob these schools, are these parents so”damn sorry” they wont even protect their children?

      • Alexia Jones

        no they are just tolerant of allowing a school system raise their children.

        • stonemike

          Sorry Alexia , but tolerance is rapidly turning into slavery and suicide in our country ! It is not tolerance to allow yourself to be subjugated to oppression !

      • Grizzly907

        Parents have abdicated their role in teaching their kids and have pawned them off on the schools-the thing that commieprog liberals desire the most. The sad thing is that many parents (liberal) treat their kids like accessories instead of kids and they want to be their kids friend instead of their parent.

  • stonemike

    ALL PROGRESSIVES (marxists) should be forcibly removed from ALL POSITIONS in govt and in our schools! What will Americans fight for, if they wont protect their own kids?

    • Danielle

      Progressivism does not equal Marxism.. in fact, they’re quite different. Take a polisci course, or hell, just look up the definition.

      • stonemike

        Take your own course or just open your eyes”militant progressives” have become a potpourri of different special interests, but in reality the “all encompassing intent is “global socialism” ! Read all the political theory you want, you’ll find abstract definitions never really define what goes on in “any movement”, especially “deranged, anarchy laced progressivism”!

  • Katie

    I had this book when I was a kid. It was great, and I don’t see the issue with it. Parents just feel uncomfortable because of the topic. Don’t you see, the book is the solution for you in that case, because your kid will run away and hide to read it! LOL

    • Gabrielle Alyse

      I think what they have issue with is the age at which children are learning about this in school. I wouldn’t see a problem with it if they were a tad older… perhaps 6th grade. I do agree that books like these do more good than harm, however. Kids are curious and need to know these things but a lot of parents struggle with the topic

      • wandamurline

        But it is still the parents’ right and responsibility to teach their own kids about sex and this book is a little over the top….we are not talking teaching sex here, we are drawing them pictures of it. When did it become the school’s responsibility to teach sex education in the first place? Morality is being lost in the US and our schools are helping the loss. Maybe kids would not be interested in sex at the age of 9 or 10 if the schools were not showing them articles and pictures about it…of course this is covered in the communist manifesto of the 50′s….the commies have been patient and it has taken them 60 years, but they sure have a hold on America right now….overload the system, take Christianity out of everything, teach lower morals and pornography and introduce mind altering drugs all the while keep telling the sheeples that it is for their own good. This is another reason that we have so many unwed mothers….no responsibility….the book should teach that if the boy gets the girl pregnant, then he is responsible for financially taking care of the baby….of course, now no one has to worry about pregnancy…abortions on demand….don’t worry about taking responsibility and the pill, just murder the baby. Wake Up America.

      • Katie

        I had this book when I was younger than those kids. My mom explained where babies came from when I was 2. Every child is different. But when you’re a year from hitting puberty (or already hitting it in some cases), it’s time to learn these things.

  • Katie

    Also, I find it hilarious anyone would think a 4th grader would “learn” masturbation from this book. YOU MASTURBATED IN THE WOMB. GET OVER YOURSELVES.

    • Sandy

      really? we masturbated in the womb? and your evidence is…what? Oh, just threw it out there to see if it stuck…typical uneducated liberal…wake up from your “hope and change, yes we can” stupor…how are those doubled premiums and tripled deductibles workin’ for ya? It’s libs like you that are the cause for our current problems in America….and if this isn’t “teaching kids to masturbate”, then why is it a subject in school? HMMM?

      • cl0ckw0rk

        Look it up, it’s proven fetuses masturbated in the womb. And I like how you keep going back to the whole “liberal” thing. Politically, I’m much more close to a liberal than a conservative, yet, I believe Obama is a bad president, and I always knew he would be. You’re bringing up completely irrelevant things in a discussion about sex education – you’re sidestepping the actual debate.

        • Sandy

          no, you are a liberal plant…

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            Do you have a counter-argument or just immature “insults” to hurl?

          • cl0ckw0rk

            No, most likely not. I’m used to it on this website, though.

          • Sandy

            try reading the other posts….

          • cl0ckw0rk

            See, the thing is, I already disproved all your points in past posts.

          • Sandy

            sure you did, lib….

          • cl0ckw0rk

            If you were actually capable of rational thought you’d realize I’m right.

          • Sandy

            no, yours is not rational thought…the definition of insanity is doing the same wrong things over and over thinking that “this time, we’ll get it right”…you deny history….but then again, all liberals are arrogant in thinking the same way…

          • cl0ckw0rk

            I deny history? And I’m arrogant now? And, I’m not thinking rationally? You don’t even have a point any more, you’re ignoring all of what I say, and denying clear evidence.

          • Sandy

            no, you are incapable of understanding it….but again, that’s the liberal way…you deny history….”can’t happen here”….it’s happening, and libs are the problem….

          • cl0ckw0rk

            What’s happening here? The downfall of society? The downfall of society because of education, a good thing? That doesn’t make sense, and I’m restating what I said before pretty much. Give me an example from history where society fell because children began to learn more things than they did previously, at an earlier age.

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            Ah, so only when you’re proven wrong do you resort to hurling insults. Got it.

          • Sandy

            so you can’t read? Gee, must be a product of the public school system…

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            Exhibit A. LOL.

      • Katie

        funny, because it was a republican’s idea
        http://theweek.com/article/index/245768/can-fetuses-masturbate

        • Sandy

          sure it was….

          • Katie

            read the article.

            also, you can’t teach kids what they already know. that’s the implication in my first post

    • cl0ckw0rk

      Thank you.

    • Lisa Forrester

      Yes, it’s true, I have ultrasound pics to prove it!!

      • Gabrielle Alyse

        THAT is hilarious.

  • Paul Smith

    Ironically, if you pulled something like this up on your computer at work you’d get fired for being offensive in the workplace. And if you have it on your computer at home, you could get arrested for possessing child porn. But by all means, let’s put it in textbooks given to young and impressionable children…

    • mlo

      Not really. Just recently a school staff member in WI watched porn at school and were fired/should have been fired??, but the libtards had a fit and I believe he’s still there. See how f-d up liberals are. No morals no conscience. Everything goes in their world. AIDS and STD’s are climbing in numbers every single day. But that’s ok … liberals think we’re overpopulated anyhow.

      • NastyNate

        Is that why std’s and teen pregnancy are highest in the more religious states? Sheltered kids are stupid kids.

        • Sandy

          really? and your proof? Oh, that’s right, you have none..abstinence doesn’t work….

          • Gabrielle Alyse
          • Sandy

            LOL…a Soros funded website…riiiiight……

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            Well if you don’t like my source, I’d suggest you look it up for yourself, but I’m sure you won’t.

      • Shawna Crickett

        For the record, he was actually watching porn…NOT EDUCATIONAL MATERIAL

    • Sandy

      best comment all night!

    • njhm

      It’s the 3rd in a series of educational books for kids. You can order them off of Amazon and I’m pretty sure I’m not going to have the local law visiting my house for “child porn” for ordering EDUCATIONAL books. Don’t be silly.

  • njhm

    My high school boyfriend saw porn for the first time when he was 7 years old. And that’s not as uncommon as you people might think. I got my first period when I was 10 years old and my mother had already had “the talk” with me (though it was a very general, frigid, one-sided conversation). I think this is a perfectly good age for kids to begin learning this, and to be taught about safe sex AND about STD’s. Teaching abstinence does NOT work. I am a prime example- my school taught nothing but abstinence and STD’s (trying to scare us into not having sex) and I got pregnant at 18 because my parents refused to put me on birth control, even when I ASKED for it. Condoms will only do so much for you. I don’t know anyone who’s parents talked to them about anal or oral sex- we all learned it from each other, from blind experience or from porn. I’m pretty sure this book is a WAY better teacher than pornography or your kids’ friends would be. THINK ABOUT IT! Sex has such a taboo stigma that nobody wants to talk to their kids about. There’s so much more to it than “where babies come from”, and adolescents need more than the basics, especially in this day and age. I’d lastly like to add that I think it’s AWESOME that it has all different body types. Teach kids at a young age that there is no one shape or how someone is “supposed” to look. So important!! I’m going to order it for my little one.

    • CaptainUSA

      You got pregnant. But you blame your parents. 4th grade is to young ya sicko.

      • njhm

        I used condoms. I got pregnant anyways. It happens. I have a wonderful husband and a beautiful child whom I plan on giving a GOOD education about things when I feel that she is ready. Will she be in 4th grade? I don’t know. But it’s not that much younger than I was when my mother gave me the talk. There are children who CAN and DO get pregnant at 10-12. Why do you think that is? A lack of proper sex ed perhaps? Most schools don’t give sex ed until the end of middle school or even high school and by then the kids could probably teach the teacher. And let’s leave the name-calling in 4th grade, k? I’m assuming you’re an adult but maybe that’s too far of a reach.

        • CaptainUSA

          I think most parents now are to selfish and don’t spend enough time raising their kids. They let the State do it. Most of the kid’s today are to dumb to even know the Bill of Rights. And most Parents know more about Ball games than the important things..So your Mom gave you the talk way to early and you indulged. I was born in 68 and I wish I could have a refund of my education and now it is even worse.. Charlotte Iserbyt wrote a book called the “Deleberate dumbing down of America” …Looks like it worked. But this explains why homeschooling enrollment is growing fast. I would not send a child to a State school. You confirmed my thoughts for sure. But Hey teach your kid when they mess up to blame you or someone else. Sounds like you don’t know it was YOUR fault and that is a greater importance than sex ed, Accountability for actions. maybe I should not have called you a sicko, but what if you are and don’t even know it. Jeffrey Dahmer blamed his folks to by the way. maybe they should have taught him not to kill young boys have sex with the body then eat it and dissolve the Bones in acid. Then again maybe he was just evil.

          • njhm

            Pretty sure I never BLAMED my parents. They didn’t make me have sex. I agree most don’t spend enough time and effort with teaching their children. I don’t feel that “the talk” should be one single conversation, it should be an ongoing thing as the child grows. Btw, I was homeschooled and in private christian school all of my life. I never once blamed anyone for my getting pregnant. I took responsibility for MY actions, I paid my own medical bills and am raising a very wonderful little girl, who if she ever opens up to me about sex, tells me she is sexually active and needs birth control, I will not deny her that extra protection. Simple as that. Please stop acting as if you know me and my story and background. Ooh, and thanks for comparing me to a serial killer though; right after retracting you sicko comment.. that’s SO much better. Totally applies. You’re right about one thing, suppression often to leads to much more unhealthy fetishes and obsessions. Remove the taboo stigma, make it a known, natural, normal thing and then it’s not such a big damn deal.

          • CaptainUSA

            Your “School scaring you” Maybe the Christian school you attended thought you should wait to have sex till you were married? Maybe the thought that would be after you were 18? Maybe your Parents thought so too?

    • Grizzly907

      They taught abstinence in the 40′s, and 50′s and you didn’t large numbers of little girls getting pregnant. Young girls started getting pregnant after the 60′s radicals took over.

      • liketheorphan

        Um. Girls have been getting pregnant in their teens since forever. Except, in the 20′s, 40′s and 50′s, your parents either sent you upstate to visit an “aunt” (the baby up for a very closed, private adoption), or you got an abortion. Might want to check up on your history…

        • njhm

          Yes!

    • Storm Smith

      I agree kids need to taught how to deal with stuff and abstinence isn’t the best thing, didn’t work with me, but it’s not the schools job to do this, it’s the parents and 4th grade is a bit too soon!

      • njhm

        I agree it should be up to the parents but far too many parents won’t do it! I do think that the parents should have been notified before hand, rather than be blindsided.

    • Evan White

      Don’t know about y’all but think I wait for sex till marrage. Then i will not be the cause of the ruin of some poor damsel.

      • njhm

        Ruin some poor damsel? I got pregnant when I was a freshman in college, still got married, finished school and am a pretty awesome parent and wife. I was not in the least bit ruined, and was not then nor now “some poor damsel”.

  • CaptainUSA
  • LoveInsanity

    Interesting that “liberal” is being thrown around like a bad thing when it comes to this topic. Rather than reacting emotionally, try looking at the data. States that have “liberal” sex education have the lowest teen pregnancy rates. States with “abstinence only” and more conservative or lack of sex education have the highest rates.

    States with highest teen pregnancy rates: New Mexico, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Arkansas, Texas, West Virginia. (Rick Perry on abstinence only: “It works. I’m not sure how it works. It just works.”) Except, it doesn’t work. At all.

    Lowest teen pregnancy rates: All of New England plus Minnesota.

    So basically the ones crying about how damaged their kids are going to be from this topic are also the ones most likely to be a grandparent before they’re 40.

    I learned all of this in second grade when my parents gave me “Where Did I Come From.” I was fascinated. Give your kids some credit. Mine did and I turned out just fine. I also managed to avoid any and all unplanned pregnancies.

    • cl0ckw0rk

      Thank you. Really.

    • NastyNate

      You can’t use facts on conservatards. They’re immune to them.

      • cl0ckw0rk

        Pretty much.

    • LoveInsanity
    • yup

      your name fits you Insanity. lol

      • LoveInsanity

        Why is that? Because I backed up the end result of thorough sex ed with facts and data? Aren’t conservatives the ones who always accuse liberals of “thinking with their hearts instead of their brains?”

        This page is full of people not thinking with their brains and only thinking with their hearts.

        Oh the irony.

    • njhm

      Thank you. Real intelligence.

  • mom58

    the commies now have it out in the open instead of hiding in your room with your Playboy mag
    one more way of tearing down the family and morals

    • NastyNate

      How has masturbation hurt your family?

      • Erin Ashley Hedges

        Musturbation destroys muh freedums

        • cl0ckw0rk

          “Now, as a GOD FEARIN’ CHRISTIAN I believe in complete and ABSOLUTE freedums. That’s why abortion, masutrbation, and same-sex marriage should be illegal.”

          - most people on this website

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            No crap

    • cl0ckw0rk

      Ditto from nastynate, how has masturbation hurt your family?

      And what even is your point? You’re bringing up communism, which has no relevance at all to this debate.

    • liketheorphan

      I agree! You should totally hide your sinful, lusty habits in the bedroom! Where they belong, like any good and moral Christian knows! Amiright or amiright?!

    • Thomas Gearjammer Marlowe

      The three people I know that are gay are in loving monogamous relationships. 80% of straight people I know that aren’t married (and some that *are*)are sleeping around, have multiple children with multiple women/men and are complete DRAINS on the welfare coffers. I think the gays might have it right.

  • Mark Cline

    It has already worked in making our children think that homosexuality is normal. They get on television. Now let’s see if we can get them all worked up on sex by the time they are 9 years old.

    • Erin Ashley Hedges

      But being gay is perfectly normal. It’s scientifically proven at this point, all you have is your silly little book, with it’s extremely old ideals. Do you support “beating the gay away”?

      • myopinion

        how is being gay perfectly normal? There is no science behind that. People and animals alike are made simply to reproduce. You will not find to animals of the same sex trying to reproduce. The pieces just don’t fit. I’m not bashing here either.

        • NastyNate

          You should really do some research. Homosexual behavior has been witnessed in thousands of species. Yes it is true, and yes it is backed by science.

          • myopinion

            your right, there is one species of frog that has the ability to change sex so that it can keep surviving.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Completely different subject

          • NastyNate

            And slugs have both male and female sex organs. But we aren’t talking about asexual or hermaphroditic reproduction. We’re talking about homosexuality. There’s a pretty big difference.

          • Evan White

            Depends on your defenition of normal. Is your defenition of normal being something that no animal in history has done

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Jesus christ, dude, he just gave you evidence that you were flat out wrong

          • Evan White

            Heck no!!!! Jesus Christ said that gay is a sin !!! Jesus Christ was not gay. In the Bible the phrase Loved All Men and Died for all men means men women and kids men can mean mankind which is the human. Jesus Christ’s teaching are coorected. Ya’ll Athiests have existed since the begining of time and you will always be wrong

          • Danielle

            … and wearing mixed fabric is also an abomination, but I can bet something you’re wearing is a blended fabric.

          • Evan White

            Btw, 1 peter chapter 3 verses 2-6 at that point of time Jewlry and certian kinds of clothing were not allowed cause the gold jewlery was used in pagan religions. Some verses in the Bible applyed to the society of tjose days.

          • Danielle

            So only the parts that apply to today are relevant? Who decides that?

          • Evan White

            In mathhew 5:17 Jesus said He came to fufill the law and prophets the law could not be kept. So jesus came in a fufilled it

          • Evan White

            The Bible uses lots of Metaphors, Similies, Irony, and connotation so often verses like mean somting totaly idffernt than what it says. Mark 7:15-16

          • Danielle

            Hmm.. you’d think a book written by a bunch of people channeling the word of an omniscient, omnipresent being would be completely straightforward and wouldn’t require thousands of revisions and versions.

          • Danielle

            … and eating shrimp.

          • Evan White

            Levidicous – deuteronomy were book about laws made for Jews Jesus never said anything about not eating shrimp.

          • Danielle

            .. Matthew 5:17?

          • Evan White

            Mathhew 5:17 ” don’t think I came to abolish the law or the prophets i have not come to abolish them but to fifill them” matthw 12:1-5 . The law = Ten Comandments. Leviticus was not the law it was merely rules to keep the Jews safe shrimp was called unclean cause there was no cure for diseses related to crawfish and pork those day.

          • Danielle

            “the law” he was referring to were the laws of the OT…all of them.. not just the 10.

          • Evan White

            Wrong!!!! Matthew 7 says otherwise

          • Evan White

            Look, I do not have all day long to argue about religion. You ain’t a Christian and only those who believe in Christ will become citizens of heaven. JEsuS SAV e s!!!!!

          • Evan White

            Repent while you still have time. Anyway it goes gays aren’t Christians so they will unless change, burn in hell along with Ahteists, Hindus , Buddahsts , Muslims, moromons, Jehovahs witnesses , Catholics, and everyone who does not become a Christian

          • Evan White

            So you should repent before it is too late

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            I have someone sitting right next to me who was raised in a Jehova’s Witness family, who had to study the bible every single day for the better part of 18 years of her life. She says you are wrong, that Jesus never once said anything about gay people whatsoever. Where are you getting your information from? Cause this girl knows the bible cover to cover, and says you are dead wrong. I’m not even going to attempt to argue on a religious basis, because it would be totally pointless. I’m talking about the guy you responded to.

          • Evan White

            Bible. 1st Cornitians.

          • RJW

            I don’t you understand the concept of proof, stating something in print does not make it a fact

          • Danielle

            peer-reviewed scholarly articles, though…

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            How do you show physical proof of anything on a webpage? It is physically impossible. I could show you science articles, but you’d argue it. I could show you videos, but you’d call it staged porn.

          • NastyNate

            You’ve never seen 2 male dogs hump? Here’s just a short list of 1,500 species that have been confirmed to exhibit homosexual behavior. http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx

          • goodgrief

            2 male dogs humping is not about a homosexual act, its about dominance

          • NastyNate

            Says you. Tell me more about what dog’s are thinking. It must be awesome to be psychic.

          • getyousome

            psychic is about predicting the future. Keep on track now. also, vets and other animal specialists is where that comes from.

          • NastyNate

            Okay. Now go ahead and debunk the 14,999 OTHER species that exhibit homosexual behavior. After you’ve done that you can start proving that gay humans aren’t just into it for the ‘dominance’ aspect.

          • devilsadvocate

            ok, but, it might take me a few minutes to go one by one.

          • NastyNate

            Fair enough. Just do the first 20 or so.

          • Sandra Wiches

            Or never heard of parthogenesis either. Smart bunch up in here.

          • Sandra Wiches

            Not to mention parthogenesis! Beat that, the ability to change your sex organs in some organisms. Ex. Some species of Lizards. Then there’s asexual reproduction. Smh. Variables people, variables and God created it all. You might not understand why, but he did. Accept it.

        • Danielle

          You obviously have never heard of bonobos (a type of primate), who use sex as a social and hierarchical tool… all kinds of sex (oral, anal, vaginal) have been documented between both sexes of bonobos (both hetero- and homo-). Bonobos don’t use sex as aggression (as some other poster stated) but to resolve conflict, communicate that food has been found, as social bonding, etc.
          http://www.eva.mpg.de/primat/staff/fruth/pdf/Hohmann_Fruth_Use_FunctionOfGG_Pp_AnimBehav2000.pdf

          National Geographic also covered homosexuality in the animal kingdom in their documentary series “Wild Sex”

          • justgoteducated

            you are right I have never heard of them and will take the time to educate myself on that. Thanks.

          • Danielle

            No problem. I’m always for education.

      • kady772

        You must have some interesting definition of “scientific” because, in fact, there is scientific evidence to the contrary and absolutely no evidence supporting. The idea that people are “born that way” is complete propaganda and has nothing to do with science.

        • NastyNate

          So if being gay is a choice, then being straight is also a choice. When did you make the choice to be straight? I never chose to be straight… I was ‘born this way’

          • kady772

            All I said was that there is nothing scientific about the theory that people are born gay and that science shows that people are not born gay. The only other option is that it is actually a choice. Sorry if that upsets you, but those are the facts.
            And no, logic does not dictate that if one chooses to be gay, one must also choose to be straight.
            One purpose of sex is reproduction. In order to reproduce, you must have a male and female (aka a straight couple of people). Therefore being straight is normal/necessary. Being gay does not enter the equation.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Science has proven you wrong constantly. Science has even proven your statement of no scientific proof wrong, in fact

          • kady772

            Really? What specifically in science proves your opinion? Calling something scientific, does not make it science. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Good bye.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Genius. People have posted your proof a hundred times already, all you have to do is read half the comments in this part of the thread

          • Evan White

            WARNING!!!! NEVER TRUST ScIENCE!!! Science can’t prove look to the history of science and you will se many a thrown out science law that was discarded due to flaw.

          • NastyNate

            Science doesn’t claim to be infallible. It is constantly revising itself, but it has never done a ’180′ like you seem to think is has. Science gave you the computer you’re using to sound stupid on the internet, which was also produced by science. So if you can’t trust science, get off the internet, sell your computer, your car, your phone, any medicine you have. And enjoy your science free existence.

          • cl0ckw0rk

            That’s because we’re constantly learning more, and replacing old ideas with newer, more rational, and proven ones. We can’t always be one hundred percent sure, because we constantly learn more things, but, we by now have a decent idea.

            Besides that, ditto everything nastynate said in reply to you. again.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            It was thrown out because it was proven wrong. Science can’t prove? It proved the earth was round. It proved the earth wasn’t the center of the universe. It proved flat out, using irrefutable fact, that there trees older than you people think the earth is. Face it. Science is the only thing that consistently is able to prove anything in the world, you are wrong. get over it

          • Danielle

            Scientific law isn’t what you think it is. They don’t get “thrown out due to flaw”. Please reference:
            http://www.livescience.com/21457-what-is-a-law-in-science-definition-of-scientific-law.html

          • Danielle

            … and you likely mean hypothesis.

          • Evan White

            Why do you se the phrase science has proven cause science can’t prove I thought you’d have learned it by now. Gay. Rights is a danged choice the gays from the 80s wanted Sexual preferance I can give resorces to backup my claim it is a preferance.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            You can give absolutely no scientific evidence short of what it says on christian run websites. That’s hardly proof

          • foxx

            lmao..and at one time science said the world was flat.. that the sun revolved around the earth and that being black was a disease.. shall I continue?

          • cl0ckw0rk

            Science is constantly changing itself, revising itself, expanding, and evolving. Simply because we believed it at one time doesn’t mean we believe it now.

          • NastyNate

            Actually it was science that corrected those mistakes.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Science didn’t say that, christianity said that. When science said otherwise, christianity tried to have science murdered. It’s all history. The Romans had the circumfrence of the planet pinpointed to near within a few hundred miles, until christianity spread like a disease, and started wiping out anything that was remotely different

          • NastyNate

            So you didn’t choose to be straight… You were born that way. Interesting

        • Erin Ashley Hedges

          Where are you getting your information? The creation museum? There are literally thousands of species with documented homosexual behavior, actual geneticists have pinpointed the imbalance that causes it. There are countless studies proving you wrong without a doubt

          • kady772

            Again, it’s called science. Those countless studies? Name one?
            What people perceive as homosexual behavior is usually aggressive behavior. For instance, dogs will seem to exhibit that type of behavior, but in reality it is a fight for dominance and has nothing to do with sex.

          • Danielle

            Scientists have been researching a genetic/biological component to homosexuality as early as 1940. http://journals.lww.com/jonmd/Citation/1940/07000/Studies_on_the_Genetic_Determination_of.8.aspx

          • Danielle

            once again, science doesn’t care what you think.

          • Danielle

            scientific evidence to support that claim?

          • njhm

            THANK YOU!

          • phil62

            It’s amazing that this is always the comeback but I have never seen the proof beyond a doubt (and never will) that people are “born” gay. You all came out of your so-called closets and let the world know that you are gay so why is it so damned hard for you to just admit that you “choose” to be that way. I will admit beyond a doubt that some men are born more feminine than others and the same for women, but I do not believe the “I was born this way” theory. That is because I have seen several people that were turned on to homosexual behavior by child molesters and they grow up thinking they are that way because somebody forced them into it. My heart and my beliefs come from God and God does not make mistakes by making some people to be homosexual when He clearly says how much He HATES the action – but NOT THE PERSON. But, that is my belief system and not yours and you are entitled to your own opinion and I will stand by you on that. I have family members who are gay but I still love them. My only rule is that they will not sleep together in my house.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            That’s your own god, not mine. It wouldn’t be so hard to admit we chose to be gay, if we actually chose to be gay. How is that such a hard concept to figure out?

        • iResist

          Have you ever seen a straight male get sexually aroused by another male? It’s impossible. In fact, a straight male would rather die than have sex with another male. Same for women, I couldn’t “choose” to be physically attracted to another female if you put a gun to my head. So how in hell IS your sexuality a choice?

          • LoveInsanity

            I can tell you first hand that not all straight males would rather die than have gay sex lol! Just because I go on vacation to Mexico doesn’t make me a Mexican.

            I totally agree that sexuality is NOT a choice. I identify 100% with one gender in my sexuality. Doesn’t mean I haven’t gone on vacation to see the world. Same with some friends and same with some sexual partners. Nothing wrong with exploring curiosity.

          • iResist

            If a man has sex with another man without serious damage to his psyche, or even considers having sex with another man, he’s not straight. Period. “Bi-curious” is a silly word for people who won’t admit they’re uncomfortable with their sexuality. It’s not “curiosity”, it’s bisexuality. Your metaphor is also silly because everyone is curious about seeing the world, some just aren’t able to do it due to finances or what have you. But if having sex with a person of the same gender was mere curiosity, then everyone would be doing it. More often than they go to Mexico, I daresay, because it doesn’t involve paying hundreds of dollars for the opportunity.

          • LoveInsanity

            I’ve had enjoyable sex with both genders and I am in NO WAY bisexual. I have friends in the same boat. And I’m not bi-curious because my curiosity has been satisfied.

            One person’s (your) experiences, feelings and opinions do not hold true for the entire gender.

            One doesn’t have to be disgusted with the thoughts or the experience of sex with the same gender to be heterosexual just as a gay person doesn’t need to be disgusted by straight sex to be gay.

            My analogy is saying that actions that we take once or twice don’t define us based on those actions.

            I got into a rather drunk homoerotic situation with a (very redneck) friend of mine. He’s not the best groomer so I was shaving his head, then he wanted his beard trimmed. Then we both got covered in hair and shaving cream and the shower was right there so… you get the idea. It progressed. It was different but not disgusting. Actually brought us closer and more comfortable around each other. We still joke about it. It will never happen again and it won’t define who we are. We’re not bisexual. We just don’t have typical hang-ups.

          • iResist

            First, I’m a woman. But I’ve spent my life around men (as colleagues as well as friends). I’m not “disgusted” with gays, I don’t know where you get that from. What I’m disgusted with is BS and lies. I’m sorry to burst your bubble, but majority of straight men can’t all be wrong. It’s like Andrew Dice Clay said… “you either suck d*** or you do NOT suck d***”.

        • Danielle
          • Danielle

            voting this one down because you can’t handle scientific evidence? lolz.

          • BADMOJODADDY

            People will believe anything if you tell them science discovered it….. LOL Morons

        • NastyNate

          You’re referring to the absence of a ‘gay gene’ and you’re correct. How could there be a gay gene when gay people don’t reproduce? There would be no way to pass on the genetic information. That study only proved that homosexuality wasn’t genetic, but anyone who understands how genes work already knew that.

      • you’re stupid

        Shut Up, Fag! If It Was Ok,You Would Be Able To Reproduce

        • NastyNate

          Somebody is butthurt.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Just a little

        • cl0ckw0rk

          I kind of like how you automatically think that because she’s defending homosexuality she must be a homosexual.

          I’m bisexual, I know plenty of straight people who support LGBT rights.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            I’m a lesbian, doesn’t mean I’m taking this guy at face value

          • cl0ckw0rk

            Well, alright then, I’m fine with that. I’m just saying it’s kind of stupid to automatically assume someone is homosexual because they’re defending homosexuality.

          • NastyNate

            I’m one of them. Gay sex is disgusting to me, that’s why I don’t have it. Broccoli is disgusting to me, so I don’t eat it. I understand that some people ejoy gay sex and that fine with me. Have fun. And some people enjoy broccoli, knock yourselves out. Why do people get so crazy just because somebody else is doing something that makes them feel icky.?

          • cl0ckw0rk

            Fair enough, I agree with your point.

          • Thomas Gearjammer Marlowe

            PERFECT. My point exactly!

          • foxx

            maybe it because those people keep telling us we have to accept it and like it…that’s why.

          • cl0ckw0rk

            No, LGBT rights is for people who ARE into it. If you don’t like it, you don’t have to do it. Simple as that.

          • NastyNate

            Nobody is telling you to like it or even accept it. You just have to tolerate it. It’s not that hard

          • Jesse Jones

            And gays need to tolerate those who find homosexuality repulsive. Not gonna happen.

          • Jesse Jones

            Broccoli doesn’t claim you’re a bigot if you find broccoli disgusting.

          • http://annieorganie.com/ Anne Roshkind Temple

            I happen to be one of them.

        • liketheorphan

          So….what about heterosexual couples that can’t reproduce. What’s your argument there? Is it bad that they are having sex, too? “You can’t have babies therefore it’s wrong!”

          • Jesse Jones

            The difference is, NO homosexual couples can reproduce. ZERO. Who cares if they’re having sex, just give up on trying to claim it’s ‘natural.’

          • Sandra Wiches

            Exactly! ^

        • Merlinzbeard

          This is hilarious!!!! I am sorry but this logic is infallible!

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            He created an account called “you’re stupid” just to scream his point. If that doesn’t scream internet troll, I don’t know what does

        • Thomas Gearjammer Marlowe

          Yes, and all the single mothers out there with no baby daddy were also able to reproduce, doesn’t mean they should have.

        • Kaja Knudsen

          Why is this such a big deal to you? Why can’t you just let people be? Why are you so afraid of people who are different?

        • Sandra Wiches

          Hey genius, that’s why God created so many variables, so many possibilities and why HENCE there are still babies being created. It’s not like reproducing is going to come to an end, actually the opposite, we are over populated you ignorant, myopic visioned shell of a human. Sure god is proud of you. Smh. You think you live in his vision? You propagate hate in the name of God. Go on, keep going in the name of God.

      • FFTN

        Show me the science.

        • Erin Ashley Hedges

          Pretty sure multiple people in this thread already have

        • NastyNate

          You want us to do your homework for you? No thanks. I grow weary of hunting down articles and statistics just so some moron can go “Nuh-uh!”

        • Thomas Gearjammer Marlowe

          Watch heffers in a field some time. Watch bulls in their own corral. Watch dogs when they think you aren’t looking. Can’t show it to you because I don’t have a video of it.

    • cl0ckw0rk

      As Erin said, homosexuality IS normal. And there’s nothing wrong with it. You’re simply stuck living off of past ideals.

      • BADMOJODADDY

        So a man sticking his Johnson in another mans rectum that was made for getting rid of human waste is normal? LOL RIIIGGGHHHT

    • http://defendrightsnow.blogspot.com/ Tom Anderson

      Homosexuality is perfectly “normal” for homosexuals, just as heterosexuality is “normal” for heterosexuals.

      • Jesse Jones

        Biologically, there is nothing ‘normal’ about homosexuality. It’s tolerated by society, but by any definition, it is not normal or natural.

        • NastyNate

          If it occurs in nature, it is natural by definition. Here’s a short list of 1,500 species that exhibit homosexual behavior. Checkmate
          http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx

          • Jesse Jones

            LOL .. An 9 year old article by one zoologist in Norway is your source? There are several articles that debunk his claims. Here’s another one of his quotes: “Orangutans are especially inventive. They make dildos out of wood and bark.” What a joke.
            Checkmate

          • NastyNate

            Except that they have been seen making and using dildos. I don’t know why you’re laughing, because it’s not a joke. Several articles you say? I’m waiting.

          • Jesse Jones

            Google his name. I’m not doing your work for you.

          • Kaja Knudsen

            Where are the articles that debunks this Norwegian guy?

        • Thomas Gearjammer Marlowe

          Sorry. Homosexuality exists in just about every species in the animal kingdom… your argument fails. The fact that *I* personally find it repugnant does NOT diminish the fact that these people are PEOPLE and deserve the same rights you and I have. Period.

          • Daryl Watson

            They already have the same rights, they just want to be special.

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            Not all of the same rights and not everywhere.

        • AdinaKay

          You clearly know nothing about biology. Quit while you’re behind.

        • Alexz Graves

          Your arguments against homosexuality are old fashioned and written without any viable evidence/proof. You are just stating your opinions, which is fine for you, but I feel sorry for you. You might want to read up and reeducate yourself before you go spewing thoughts over correct statements.

          • Tabatha Chachulski-Morgan

            And your arguments for homosexuality are just as old fashioned and written without any viable evidence or proof. So what exactly is your point?

          • Alexz Graves

            I’m sorry how is supporting people who are maybe a little bit different from you “old fashioned”? My point is that people should not be slinging their beliefs around and trying to pull them off as “what is right” or “Natural”. That’s not for YOU to decide. You are not a scientist, a behavioral psychologist, or any sort of profession that can tell me what is “natural”. And you want proof?

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

            Here’s a Wiki article, it may just spell it out for you.
            I am not saying you have to believe it, but arguing with science, proven facts, doesn’t really give you any credit.

          • Dennis Murphy

            spewing thoughts over correct statements. WTF? Want to smoke poll fine enjoy, eat tacos, go for it, want a 4th grader to learn how to do over my dead body.

          • Alexz Graves

            I learned that stuff when I was in 4th grade.
            And I am a very normal functioning human, and I also have never had a pregnancy scare because- woah now- I was taught about SAFE SEX. It helps.

          • Daryl Watson

            Safe sex keep your knees together till you are married.

          • Alexz Graves

            …Except for the fact that “keeping your knees together”isn’t really a realistic request in today’s society. And it certainly isn’t the ONLY thing we should be teaching kids in school. Because then that leads to upwards numbers in teenage pregnancy because nobody knows what a condom is!

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            Condoms aren’t 100% reliable and teaching abstinence doesn’t work. Any more suggestions?

          • Dennis Murphy

            Well isn’t that special, did your daddy teach you or mommy?

      • Mark Cline

        Because it has been portrayed to be so on television and in the movies doesn’t make it normal. If you look at a Sociology Text book from thirty years ago, Homosexuality is found under deviant behaviors. Nothing has changed but pop culture.

    • njhm

      Homosexuality is observed in hundreds of species. What are humans but part of nature. Thus, NATURAL.

      • Jesse Jones

        Complete BS. A dog will hump your leg. Does that make it ‘natural?’

        • Alexz Graves

          That makes absolutely no sense… And is completely irrelevant to any “argument”. A dog humping somebody’s leg is not only an act of sexuality in unneutered and unspayed dogs, but it’s also a sign of dominance over an object. So if your question is: “Is a dog humping your leg “natural”?” Then your answer is, yes, yes it is.

          • Ben Name

            tell that to my schlonged terrier.

        • Jason Mann

          Actually, that is normal behavior for dogs. It is usually attributed to dominance!

        • AdinaKay

          ” A dog will hump your leg. Does that make it ‘natural?”
          Yes.

        • NastyNate

          If it is observed in nature it is natural by definition (That’s where the word natural comes from)…. So, yes.

          • Skeptical_Boomer

            Mental illness is natural too. Doesn’t make it normal or desirable.

        • Ben Name

          Maybe on your leg it is.

      • dforbes111

        Nope, it’s just sex between 2 males of any species. Procreation requires genetic material from opposite sexes, which naturally produces offspring.

  • AdinaKay

    I masturbated once. The next day, I went bankrupt.
    Say no to wanking, kids.

    • msueh

      :-D

    • Ben Name

      I doubt that was the real reason.

  • Cheyenne

    What.the.fuck.ever….

    • wynder

      Classy.

      • Ben Name

        That’s conservatives for you. Classy all the way.

  • liketheorphan

    Sex is bad, mmkay.

  • Dan Watson

    Every homosexual has heterosexuals to thank for their lives.

    • NastyNate

      And every heterosexual has homosexuals to thank for the fashions they use to attract other heterosexuals. The computer and internet were also invented by homosexuals. So it looks like you’ve got some thanking to do of your own.

      • Ben Name

        Thank you?

        • NastyNate

          Don’t thank me, I’m straight.

          • Ben Name

            Oh, no thank you then.

      • Sandy

        paaaleeese…..gay men dress..like gay men..horribly…….fashion? ROTFLMAO….gays invented computers? hmmm…more “gay arrogance”…Bill Gates was/is not gay….and your hero, Al Gore, who claims HE invented the internet, is not gay….so get back to the arguement….

        • NastyNate

          Bill Gates didn’t invent the computer and Al Gore didn’t invent the internet. I’m talking about Alan Turing and Tim Berners-Lee. The actual inventors of the computer and internet respectively. Both are gay. (Although the internet can’t be credited to a single inventor, it was a group effort that didn’t involve Al-Gore)

          • Sandy

            the internet was developed by the military, although gore took credit for it….as for computers, Bill Gates invented MS-DOS….until then, no one used them except the government labs extensively. Also, why should we care if they were gay, if they were? Why is it that they have to exclaim that constantly?

          • NastyNate

            They don’t exclaim it. They simply exist and small minded people try to persecute them for it. So Bill Gates invented a program that ran on….. a pre-existing computer. Why do you mention him again? Without Turing’s invention Bill Gates couldn’t have written a program to enhance it.

          • Sandy

            they don’t exclaim it?? Are you living in a cave?? Everyday, “I’m the first openly gay football player…I’m the first openly gay singer on american idiots, I’m the first woman to swim from Cuba, and I’m openly gay…and the list goes on and on…You are trying to minimize Bill Gates and Steve Jobs for brining it to life in America’s homes…please….

          • Sunnydaze

            God I love it when people make statements that have no basis in actual fact although I admit your inventors come a lot closer than Bill Gates and Al Gore.

            1936- Konrad Zuse invented the Z1 Computer. This was the first computer that was freely programmable

            1943-John William Mauchly and J. Presper Eckert, designed ENIAC, the first general purpose electronic digital computer, as well as EDVAC, BINAC and UNIVAC I
            1945-Alan Turing began the development of a machine that would logically process information. He worked first for the National Physical Laboratory (1945-1948). His plans were dismissed by his colleagues and the lab lost out on being the first to design a digital computer.

            And while Tim Berners-Lee is credited with the hyperlinks that created the world wide web creation of the internet is credited to Vinton Gray “Vint” Cerf and his colleague Bob Kahn.

            While Alan Turing was imprisoned (and later pardoned) for homosexuality, contrary to your assertion, I can’t find anything to support that Tim Berners-Lee was homosexual. I did find that he was married twice, has two children and is now in a relationship with Rosemary Leith, although I fail to see what their sexual preference has to do with anything.

            I really wish that people who make statements of fact would actually have facts without making them up as they see fit. I find it hard to believe that you care so little for your credibility. It’s shot, no one can take what you say at face value.
            Incidentally, your statement about how without Turing, Bill Gates couldn’t have written a program to enhance it? That’s one the most ludicrous, asinine statements I’ve seen. The same can be said about EVERY invention ever made. Those that come after the first make enhance it in some way. That in no way takes away from the invention or the improvement.

      • dotherightthing4

        And every homosexual should thank every heterosexual for the privilege of EXISTING!!!!

        • Ben Name

          Existing in this comment section is no privilege.

          • Combat Veteran Seabee

            So why are you here?

          • Ben Name

            For the laughs.

      • wynder

        Holy crap! That paragraph is loaded with some of the most egregious (look it up) revisionist “history” I’ve seen in quite some time. Thanks for the laugh!

        • Ben Name

          you must not be white.

      • Dennis Murphy

        WHO CARES

      • Bwahaha

        LIES, while I have nothing against whatever sexual preference one chooses, we all know that Al Gore created the Internets!

  • Zanzikahn

    Like really. Get over yourself. Kids need to know before they find out on their own. You have an issue, don’t let your child take the class. If you are a prune that cannot accept that your child needs to learn it anyways, then tell the teachers to exempt your child. Stupid, stupid notion, to fight against teaching this to children.

    • Sam

      Firstly, the word is prude, not prune. Furthermore, sexuality is something that parents should teach their children when the parent deems it is appropriate. The schools should not parent the students.

      • NastyNate

        If the parents taught this stuff the schools wouldn’t have to. But parents don’t teach this stuff because it makes them uncomfortable. They would rather have a pregnant teen than a nervous conversation.

        • Jay

          generalize much?

          • NastyNate

            You might have the time to cover every possible scenario, but I’m busy teaching morons how the real world works. So for the sake of time, generalizations must be made. If you don’t like what public schools are teaching, don’t put your kid in public schools. There are other options available.

        • Jerry

          You are making a generalized statement when you say parents do not teach this stuff. My parents did. I was much younger and was very curious about it and started asking questions. I was around 5. My dad told me how we reproduced and the difference between sexes. But they did not teach my older brothers and sister until they were around 12 or so when it was more appropriate for them to learn about it. So saying parents do not teach their children is a false statement. Now lets fix that and say some parents do not teach it. Either way it is still the parents job and not the nanny state which you seem to happy to embrace.job to teach it.. If their child gets pregnant then it is their problem to deal with for failing to teach them. And yes I know not all parents are willing to deal with it and that leads to more problems. But that is another issue in itself. We are talking about parents rights verses schools duty to teach. It is and should always be the parents choose as to when and where.

          • NastyNate

            I never said I wasn’t generalizing. But there’s know way of knowing who’s parents are giving ‘the talk’ and who isn’t So we have to teach it to everyone. Most people have enough sense to get insurance on their cars. But some people aren’t, so we had to pass laws making it illegal to drive without insurance. Teaching kids about the risks of sex is just ‘insurance’ that they will be equipped with the knowlege for when the time comes that they do become sexually active, whether or not their parents have enough sense to teach them at home.

          • Jerry

            , The government has no right getting involved in how a family raises their children, If you think they do then please move to a Communist country where they have it that way. Here we have rights and the government is limited in what it can do. What parents do or do not teach their children is their right. It is not up to me or you to tell them what they teach their child. I mean who the f are you or anyone else to tell someone how or what to teach their children. The problem we have here is some people seem to think it is their right to tell others how to live. You do not want me telling you that you can not marry another guy or telling a woman she cannot have an abortion, So what makes it alright for you to tell me how to raise my child. You cannot have it both ways. either you are for freedom of choose are you are for the nanny state. Which are you for? I am going to assume the nanny state the way you are talking. I am not even going to touch on auto insurance. That we can leave for another discussion and I will just stay on topic.

    • Joshua Justice

      4th grade… come on

    • dotherightthing4

      They are 9 years old. 9 years old. Not 16 or 17. What trash you are.

      • NastyNate

        By the time they are 16 tey are already sexually active. Sheltered children are stupid children. The need to be made aware of the risks they face.

        • Ben Name

          right on!

        • dotherightthing4

          9 years old!!! Our entire culture is stench!

          • NastyNate

            And the only way to fix that problem is through education.

          • dotherightthing4

            Clean up our music industry and programming. They are exposed to far too much far too soon. Kids need a zone of innocence.

        • Combat Veteran Seabee

          Let’s see, are you a muslim? Just asking because mohammad said to marry a girl at 6 was okay, but no sex until they are how old? 10 is the answer. Is this what you are condoning?

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            How in the world did you get THAT out of “NastyNate’s” post?

          • Daryl Watson

            Then he didn’t follow his own teachings, he had sex with his 9 year old “wife”

          • NastyNate

            Yes, that is exactly what I’m saying. Do you even read bro?
            I’m not dumb enough to believe in a mythical being.

    • Jay

      spoken like someone without children…or God for that matter.

      • Ben Name

        Yeah, there is no God.

        • Jay

          I respect your beliefs.

          • Ben Name

            No you don’t. you just called me a moron.

          • Jay

            you have me confused. I have only posted here for the first time.

          • Ben Name

            look above.

          • Jay

            sorry man, Im clueless on this one. but sorry if I offended you none the less.

          • Ben Name

            dooh. My bad.

        • Larry TheComputerGeek

          1. There is a God.
          2. Ben is not him.

          • Ben Name

            Thanks for at least conjuring up the notion that I could have been God before you concluded I wasn’t. That’s flattering.

          • Larry TheComputerGeek

            You are delusional, Ben.

          • Ben Name

            If I am then you were for think for a moment that I could have been God.

            The logic is there you just have to understand it….which clearly you do not. It’s okay not to be as smart as someone else. It happens all the time.

          • Larry TheComputerGeek

            Only in your dreams, Ben Name. Only in your dreams.

          • Ben Name

            No Larry, in your reality. Only in your reality.

          • Larry TheComputerGeek

            You’re just a mocker, Ben. Enjoy your delusions.

          • Ben Name

            Only in your reality.

    • Dennis Murphy

      IN 1982 Liberals in Cambridge Mass foughr to remove sexual education from 9th graders. Now in 2014 these same tools want to teach your 4th graders that have no sexual knowledge at all , WOWOWOWOW, No the good news they will be ready to marry their Islamic husband at age 10 so lets add these all together. one thing after another ffffffffffffffffffffffffff

    • Jack Mahogoff

      Don’t take the class? It’s 4th grade. I suppose you think allowing kids to drop out of school and releasing 3rd grade graduates on society would be more intelligent? I’m not a prune, or a prude, for that matter. There’s a time and place for everything, and this has no place in 4th grade. 8th maybe.

  • dforbes111

    If homosexuality/lesbianism is so normal, why aren’t 2 people of the same sex able to produce off-spring?

    • Ben Name

      They are. It’s called artificial insemination and adoption.

      • iwasfreeonce

        Seriously, that is such a moronic statement, they still did not produce anything.

        • Ben Name

          You are a moron for calling me a moron because it takes one moron to know another moron.

          • Tabatha Chachulski-Morgan

            And you just showed your age

          • Ben Name

            And you yours by recognizing it. Maybe we are in the same class?

          • Combat Veteran Seabee

            Childish!

          • Ben Name

            uhm. look at Sandy’s comment above.

          • Sandy

            nana nana boo boo

          • Ben Name

            he he he. I made you talk baby talk.

          • Sandy

            well, I could put on my interogator voice….but you might be a scared….

          • Ben Name

            Ha Ha. That’s funny because this is a text only comment section.

      • dforbes111

        As both your examples require genetic material from both sexes, which in my thinking is “natural” in a reproductive sense. Who is able to define what’s “normal” as it’s definition is subjective?

    • Jenell

      You do know there are some female and males that aren’t able to produce offspring…. infertility issues. So using your logic, they shouldn’t be allowed to couple either? The fact remains that I did not choose to be straight, I just am. Did you choose to be straight? Those who are gay have the same strong feelings towards their own sex as we do with the opposite sex.

      • iwasfreeonce

        Being straight comes naturally, being gay is a learned behavior, and those who learn it can never be convinced that they have been taught it through their upbringings and personal experiences and decisions in life. The other thing would be chemicals within their environment that can detrimentally effect neurological function and reasoning. Mercury is one that has been proven through scientific study to cause homosexual characteristics in birds Chemical exposure at early developmental stages compounds this effect, and this includes what your mother is exposed to while carrying you. Most of sexual mutations such as transgenderism can be traced to chemical or biological exposure from environmental sources, and exposure to certain chemicals can change thought processes within the brain. All these behaviors can be explained on a chemical level.

        • rjgwood

          Please source your silly assertions

      • redrover

        No Jenell, they are mentally off and make those choices for themselves, which is against acceptable humanity! They can still be as they choose but they have no right to expose their lack of morality and human decency on everyone else, nor have special rights that go against all of time and human decency and faith!! They will never be what is acceptably right for humanity and if so- we all will have arrived in hell for all time!! I detest seeing their evil and think them pathetic! They should stay in their ‘closets’, be private as they belong and shut up, as they used to! Most certainly they should not expect normal people to accept their evil or make special laws detracting from what real marriage is, or humanity is, for instance or normal- decent behavior……they are sick and need mental help!!!

      • dforbes111

        @Guest, No one should be condemned for their sexuality, likewise, no particular sexual preference should be defined as “normal” as it’s subjective.

      • Sunnydaze

        Sure and pedophiles will always tell you they can’t help themselves that just the way they were born, they didn’t choose to be that way. Those who are pedophiles have the same strong feelings towards children as we do with the opposite sex. Hmmm doesn’t sound nearly as acceptable when you use that argument elsewhere does it?

    • NastyNate

      If heterosexuality is the only way, then why aren’t all straight people able to have children?

      • Tabatha Chachulski-Morgan

        I can guarantee more heterosexuals can have children then homosexuals.

        • NastyNate

          Trust me. If we need anything, it’s less kids. Or have you not been into a walmart lately? I can guarantee you that fewer gay couples have children running around unsupervised causing trouble. If parents took responsibility for their children, things like this would get taught at home and we wouldn’t have to teach it at school.

          • Ben Name

            Just when I thought you were funny the last time. This is awesome! I’m LOLing all over the floor.

          • NastyNate

            It just suck that it’s getting late and I can’t do this all night.

          • Ben Name

            As my favorite red headed girl once said, there’s always tomorrow.

        • Combat Veteran Seabee

          slammmmmmm! : )

          • Ben Name

            To quote a couple hundred conservatives here, you are stupid.

        • Andrew

          Homos can’t have children without a third party..that’s a guarantee!!

          • Ben Name

            ahhh. no it’s not. but you won’t understand why.

      • Combat Veteran Seabee

        Guess your lack of education is showing! Anatomical problems, hormonal imbalances, reproductive short comings, but wait, all of the above are still in a body of either sex that are capable of having procreation before these challeges or conditions show up becuse it takes heterosexuality in normal circumstance to procreate. Can’t say that with the fudge packers or labia lickers, it takes 2 distinctively different sexes or the products of, to have children!

        • NastyNate

          So you’re implying that the only reason for sex is to reproduce? You’ve NEVER done it for please? I feel bad for your partner. Forced to raise a child every time they want have sex.

          • Ben Name

            Best comment of the day. thanks Nate!

          • Ben Name

            I wish I could give you 100 upvotes.

      • dforbes111

        NastyNate, I’m a believer in fate, maybe it’s not meant for everyone to have children. I wanted another child, it didn’t happen, I excepted it and moved on.

  • jim

    most of did not have or need this crap why do kids need it now

    • NastyNate

      Because teen pregnancy and std rates are growing out of control. Hiding the truth from them only leaves them unprepared for reality. If we DID have this stuff, we wouldn’t be in the shape we are currently in.

      • Combat Veteran Seabee

        No! Becuase of the loss of a moral compass is why we have teen pregnancy and exploding STD rates

        • Gabrielle Alyse

          … and lack of education.

        • T

          The teen pregnancy rates are the lowest they’ve been in years. STDs are prevented through awareness and education.

        • NastyNate

          They why are the pregnancy and std rate highest in the bible belt? If it were about morality wouldn’t you expect the opposite?

          • Patriot1

            That’s your b.s. story and it proves nothing, even if it is true, which I doubt. The destruction of the nation’s culture is not bound by geographical borders. It is done through the all pervasive crappy pop culture of which you and your ilk are so darn fond.

          • NastyNate

            My ilk? Please tell me more about myself, you must have such insight. And don’t bother checking the std/teen pregnancy rates for yourself. By all means, just dismiss it and keep being wrong. It’s easier for you.

          • Marqui

            Because NastyNate, The bible belt happens have some of the poorest states in the US when it comes to median income. Poverty always begets troubles like teen pregnancy and std rates. Perfect example, look at third world countries. The bible preaches morality but that does not mean people follow it. One of the reasons christianity is so popular among the less fortunate is because it preaches a message of hope. People in bad situations love hope. You can see the attraction. I still don’t think the connection you’re drawing is very strong. It’s a bible belt state sooo they should be on better behavior than everyone else? Alaska has the number 3 ranking in violent crimes in the entire US even though they have the 4th smallest population out of the states.. Some things just don’t make sense.

      • Jack Mahogoff

        4th graders are about 10 years old. Puberty is still a few years away, and these kids aren’t able to understand adult relationships yet. They do NOT need this yet. Focus on teaching them how to be responsible in other areas of their lives first.

        • njhm

          I got my period when I was 10… plenty of kids are developing by then.

          • Daryl Watson

            So you got your period that means you have to have sex.

          • NastyNate

            Biologically yes. Psychologically, no. But since their bodies a re physically ready, it’s important that they know about the changes they are going through and the risks of sex.

        • Charity Farmer

          Puberty is a few years away? Ask my 9 year old with breasts and pubic hair if puberty is a few years away. I don’t like the book myself, but I’ve been responsible and been slowly talking about this stuff as they grew up based on their age and need to know. Mostly I just answered their questions honestly but age appropriately, but around 9, I find it important to talk about the basics of sex and reproduction. For one, it is easier when they are not embarrassed by their bodies and thoughts, yet. Second, I want my daughters to know where babies come from so that if they are molested or raped, they will know it is important to come to me. Parents expect to have one “talk” and that will cover it all, but it should really be a series of discussions at intervals over childhood and before puberty is even something they are worried about.

      • diana harrell

        And if parents actually acted like parents others wouldn’t believe it their duty to throw this crap in the face of 10 year olds.

        • NastyNate

          How many pregnant 12 year olds do you need to see on television before you realize that 10 is the perfect age to teach this stuff?

          • Patriot1

            The problem is the utter immorality with which you and your ilk have saturated and brainwashed this society and which has destroyed its underlying culture. Now you want to solve the problems you have created by adding more immorality. Go sell your idiocy elsewhere. We are stocked up on that here all thanks to you and your kind!

          • NastyNate

            “My kind” Lol check the STD and teen pregnancy rate in the bible belt. If anyone is immoral, it’s ‘your kind’

          • Patriot1

            It’s pretty clear who the immoral kind is here.

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            It’s not immoral to teach about natural ways of life.

          • NastyNate

            He was delivered by the stork don’t you know!

      • Diomasach

        Quit lying dude, nobody believes you. All it takes is 2seconds to go to Google and go to the HHS website to show you’re lying and rates are declining.

        • NastyNate

          You know why they’re declining? Because of sex ed. SHOCKER!

          But that’s not to say that they aren’t a problem. I’ll choose my wording better in the future, thanks.

          • Diomasach

            No, they have been declining steadily for decades. In fact other than a brief spike in the “free love” 60′s they have been declining since before WW2.
            Sex end had nothing to do with it, and showing porography to kids sure as hell didn’t.

      • Diomasach

        Again, except they arent “growing out to of control” they have been declining since long before we had this vulgar crap in the classroom.

      • jim

        but don’t you have to wonder if we have gone too far?
        schools are passing out condoms to 9-10 year olds

        they are tell even younger kids about sex and how it’s done

        I don’t know about you but they had told me this below the age of ten I would have been trying to have sex with the little girl across the street

        and all you have to do is go to just about any forum site with kids and teens to see they are messed up

        it’s scary how many are asking how to figure out what their sexuality is many say they are watch are trying sex with both sexes to try to figure out what they are

  • Larry TheComputerGeek

    Government sponsored immorality. This will add billion$ in busine$$ for Planned Parenthood.

    • NastyNate

      Actually it’s going to reduce the taxpayer cost. Or haven’t you noticed that the most religious states have the highest teen pregnancy and std rates? Waiting till marriage didn’t work for your generation, and it’s failing even harder today.

      • Jacob Schmidt

        A majority of marriages are failing in our generation not from religious reasons, but rather secular ones. You noticed how marriages are failing even harder today too huh? That’s funny. It seems to correlate with an all time low attendance record in the church and a decrease in self proclaiming Christians (according to national surveys on whether they considered themselves christian). Logic could make a reasonable leap and assume that due to a weakening of christian morals in our country, marriages have been failing more often. Studies on secular attitudes of the country have further helped bridge that leap. Our generation is more self centered, taught that we’re “special” and important and deserve the best. You get my point ;)

        • NastyNate

          Christian morality includes owning slaves. (Read Exodus 21, and no it’s not an indentured servitude. That stipulation only applied to other Jews, everyone else could be owned for life or even sold to another person)
          So you can keep that garbage.

          The decline in church attendance also coincides with a drop in racism and an increase in human rights. So do churches promote bigotry and hate? Certainly not. Not all statistical trends are corollary.

          • jacob Schmidt

            A lot of people like to mention the old testament. That’s great and I’m glad you read it. However the New testament is what you should be focusing on when it comes to messages because that is the story and message of Christ and… I’ll be! we’re CHRISTians. Christians are about Christ, and we are about what Christ brought to the table. Christ did not once condone slavery. Christian morality does not include owning slaves. Christian morality is following Jesus and what he taught. You can pretty much read this verse and it sums up the entire new testament and what Jesus taught his entire life. Mathew 22: 35-40. Not tryin to preach lol. If you focus on only the old testament and not the new, then you’re really talking about Judaism and not Christianity at all ;)

          • lilyred

            Blacks don’t have a monopoly on being “slaves”. Get over it.

      • Larry TheComputerGeek

        That is ridiculous.

        • Larry TheComputerGeek

          I have seen how well teen & child sexual promiscuity and children without fathers has worked in the inner cities. The Bible condemns sexual immorality because sexual sin is never contained to 1 or 2 people. Sexual sin always negatively impacts multiple lives.

  • iwasfreeonce

    Evolution will always lead to a loss of morals and sense of right and wrong in this world.

    If you believe yourself to be an animal, then you will act like one.

    • AllReligionsAreFairytales

      Yeah, and if you emulate the behaviors of a psychotic deity you’ll happily commit genocide in the name of your imaginary parent.

      • diana harrell

        The Clock Is Ticking!

        • NastyNate

          You can’t scare us with your boogie man. Now go be a good little sheep and drop a dollar in the shiny plate.

          • iwasfreeonce

            what are you even talking about? shiny plate?

          • NastyNate

            I’m talking about the donation plate that you church passes at any given opportunity, and then doesn’t pay taxes on the money it ‘earns’

          • Sandy

            yah, it goes to paying the Pastor’s salary as well as taking care of those who are in need in our church….but you would rather let the government do that, right?

          • NastyNate

            You mean your church uses money from other people to help the less fortunate. But isn’t that *gasp* SOCIALISM?!
            Funny how you thinks it’s a good idea when it’s helps out people you know.

          • iwasfreeonce

            No because it is voluntary. In my opinion Socialism only happens when it is forced by a government.

          • NastyNate

            Socialism is defined as: “a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.”

            Your ‘opinion’ of what socialism is… Isn’t actually socialism. It’s closer to Marxism. There are key differences.

          • Diomasach

            No. The key part of the definition you are choosing to ignore is “control.”.
            If I CHOOSE to give to the needy, that is Charity. Because I am giving what I control, freely.
            If something is taken from me by force and gives it to someone else, then it is outside of my control. That is Socialism.

          • Merlot sauce

            The difference is only in the amount of control the government has. When the government controls the redistribution of all wealth, it is considered Marxist. When it controls only a moderate amount (like the US) it would be considered Socialism. However everyone knows that the government takes a mile when given an inch. If someone allows one program to redistribute a little bit of wealth, well… then another one is okay to enact, and then another, and another, and before you know it, you got yourself a snowballing effect of socialism on it’s way to Marxism. Republicans are not afraid of socialism, they’re afraid of what it can easily become. More control to the government = more control to the politicians. And you better bet your bottom dollar every single one of them didn’t scratch and claw their way to the top only to decline an opportunity to have more power or control. You’re right though. People should help everybody, not just those they know. My only beef is that I should be the one in control of how much of my own money or my own time, that I give to them.

          • Sandy

            no onionhead, it’s called charity. Do you even know what socialism is?

          • iwasfreeonce

            Oh I don’t attend any churches.

          • NastyNate

            Good on you mate! Biggest scams ever.

          • John Doe

            he is referring to giving money to the church. Normally, on a sunday during service, the church will pass around a basket, plate, or some other container to which people put money in (IF THEY WANT). I guess his insinuation is that people should not donate money to causes they believe in and if they do, they’re sheep because they help financially support institutions that they agree with. Weird. But then again, expected from someone called NastyNate.

          • Sandy

            wow…such an intellectually stimulating arguement….but then again, you think gay men are the best dressed….LOL….Queer Eye for the Straight Guy….total disaster….try Brooks Brothers or other MEN’s stores….

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            I think he made it clear he was talking about gay male clothing designers.

          • Sandy

            ah yah…! Who do you think they were?

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            …what?

        • iwasfreeonce

          their is no clock

      • iwasfreeonce

        Deity? You sire have no idea what I believe, how presumptuous.

        • Ben Name

          I think the point is that all deities are crazy.

          • iwasfreeonce

            I agree!

      • Sandy

        and your proof that GOD does not exist? Science? Science is fungible, GOD is not. In the last 200 years, the Bible has been verified by archeology several times. The bible said the earth was round – the “scientists” of the day said it wasn’t. go to: mcleanbible.org and learn something “Religion without science is blind;science without religion is lame” Albert Einstein and before you tell me he was an atheist, he wasn’t. He believed in GOD, just not in a personal way, much the same as Deists aka Jefferson. the evidence is here. Don’t be a “denier”….

      • redrover

        If you are referring to God, you are in for a real surprise and are a fool to not know that God created you and is far above you in actions and mental thoughts….but does love you no matter what you think or do…….you will not be in heaven, if you do not believe in Christ as your Savior but will reside in hell for eternity for your ignorance. While you have time seek the truth!

        • AllReligionsAreFairytales

          Yeah that’s cute, your stupid sand ni99er prophet has nothing to do with people of other religions far older than yours. I wish Vishnu would show up and slap you with every hand he has.

          • iwasfreeonce

            Read the book of Enoch and you will understand that of which you speak. Stories from all religions are correct. Flood stories appear in texts from over 300 cultures world wide, even the American Indians had stories of the flood. Don’t let your disdain for religion blind you to the spiritual realm that lies just beyond the curtain. That man you called names sought to abolish all religion. The ancient world was much more than what you think it, and modern archeology is proving this. We have been beyond this level before, but the slate was wiped clean (nearly). You probably believe a species like the triceratops died out millions of years ago, yet the “Ica stones” have numerous carvings of these animals and other large reptilian creatures that strikingly resemble things we call dinosaurs today. One guy was literally riding a triceratops. Ancient Persian kings had their chariots drawn by dragons on special occasions. The word dinosaur did not exist till 1841. Any large reptile before that time was simply called a dragon, and most didn’t fly or breath fire. I’m not saying to blindly follow a book, but at least acknowledge the evidence that we have, with out and prior reservations of thought.

          • SmartL

            “sand ni99er”? WTH is wrong with you?

          • AllReligionsAreFairytales

            What’s the matter? Can’t admit that teabagging religious nutcases worship a Middle Eastern guy they’d be uncomfortable sitting next to on a plane? The only difference between a Christian and a Muslim extremist is their choice in rifles, otherwise they both love to commit genocide in the name of the same psychotic deity with control issues.

    • iwasfreeonce

      The argument over religion is mute since all this is an illusion. On the sub-atomic level there is nothing but light and energy waves, there is no solid, everything we see is an illusion of densely packed energy waves. To believe what you see with your eyes is a fool’s errand within the great illusion. Gotta love quantum physics!

  • Larry Major

    It is the end of days people, the great tribulation is dead ahead!

    • NastyNate

      Go be crazy somewhere else. We’re full here.

    • njhm

      What?

  • Dan Watson

    NastyNate, your a hoot, dude! Berners-Lee and Turing were certainly important contributors but computers existed long before them. And I dont think every good designer is homosexual although many are. What about Babbage?

  • Renee

    As a teacher, I have mixed feelings about this. However, as the parent of a 10-year-old boy, let me ASSURE you that 4th graders are already talking about this stuff. The questions my son has come home and asked are proof that even in a rural, largely Christian community in East Tennessee, kids are talking about sex much, much earlier than parents think. I absolutely agree it is the parents’ responsibility to teach their children about sex, but when, I see such an alarming number of teenager mothers in our mid-sized county, I know it isn’t happening as it should. Our school has its first pregnant 8th grader (13-years-old), and she is due in May. I’ve also had to explain that one to my son!

    • Meg leo

      I agree with all of this. Maybe there should just be a consent form like the are for watching certain movies in school.

    • Just Me

      That only shows how decayed is North American society, is awful, is Nasty is what you parents created.

      • hating ignorance

        Are you kidding me?! Your mentality is that of the fictional mother on the movie ‘Carrie’. Analretetive and sheltered…

        • iwasfreeonce

          That response is odd, who else are you, gov troll?

    • iwasfreeonce

      They are talking about it because parents think people like Beyonce and Katty Perry are role models for their children. This problem goes far deeper.

    • lilyred

      With all this crap on tv, I’m not surprised. It’s like sex is all people think about. Little minds. Glad to say, never had any preggers in my school. What a hoot.

  • Amanda Lynea Cartwright

    Have people forgotten that many kids were married in the old days by 13? Parents shelter their children and then wonder why they have anxiety and more in life. Many children are also afraid to ask their parents about their sexual organs due to the parents reactions to it. Geez people. Don’t underestimate a child and the knowledge or intellect. You’d be surprised what they know.

    • Sandy

      so you are saying we should go back to kids marrying at 13? Authority figures, strangers, teaching what you as parents should be teaching? NO…not in school…..

      • NastyNate

        If this stuff were getting taught at home, it wouldn’t need to be taught in schools. But parents are waiting too long and the kids are finding this stuff out for themselves the hard way. And by the time they have ‘the talk’ its too late.

        • Sandy

          it is being taught at homes, and it isn’t for you to be telling me what I should teach my kids nor what the schools should be teaching….the need to learn academics, not sex…

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            Evidently not.

          • Sandy

            yeah it is being taught…we don’t need libs like you teaching our kids nor shoving your ridiculous socialist ideas down our throats…

          • Amanda Lynea Cartwright

            And I don’t need more welfare mouths to feed. But, you know, you gotta start somewhere!

          • NastyNate

            They only care about fetuses. After the child is born and needs care they cry socialism.

          • NastyNate

            How is sex ed linked with socialism? Grasp at straws much? If you’re so against socialism, stop using roads paid for with tax payer money. That also goes for the local police and fire service.

          • Sandy

            basic services is not socialism…paying for other people’s healthcare is socialism…paying for people who won’t work is socialism…the government telling me that we can’t have GOD in the schools is socialism…the beginnings of radicals who want nations to be socialists is the breakdown of the American family, and teaching sex in 4th grade by strangers who are authority figures is immoral. You’d better wake up – it’s 1934 all over again…

          • NastyNate

            If you don’t like what the public schools are teaching, then don’t put your kid in public schools. You have other options. But the taxpayers are tired of funding the ‘mistakes’ caused by not knowing the risks. So they’re doing something to prevent them from happening.

          • Diomasach

            I don’t subject my children to the government schools.
            But since the government siezes money to pay for them whether you do or not, and refuses to give you a little of it back to the parents who take thier kids out of them, it isn’t an option for the poor.
            But who cares about the poor anyway?

          • NastyNate

            Conservatives don’t care about the poor. That’s who.

          • Diomasach

            Actually conservatives generally support school choice to help free poor kids from the government schools.
            They are also consistently shown to be more generous in charitable giving.

          • Amanda Lynea Cartwright

            You are taking this as a personal issue against you. It is not. You are one of very few who teaches your kids correctly, I assume. One of MILLIONS of people who don’t! This is for the ones out there who do everything BUT parent.

          • Sandy

            so all should just throw up their hands and quit parenting…let the schools do it…NOPE…..liberals are quitters….

          • 80′s Baby

            Sex education falls under the umbrella of “academics”. Is it acceptable to teach young folks about themselves, sure. Even guided discussions are acceptable in my opinion, so long as the information provided is objective and based solely on scientific facts.

            However, this is too subjective (in my opinion) and suggestive. Plus, the pictures serve no practical purpose. I’m sure there are some much better alternatives for lesson material.

          • Sandy

            sex education is not “academic”….please…

      • Amanda Lynea Cartwright

        No no no, not marry at 13 again. I was just saying, I think we have forgotten that. If I went on that subject I would go on about kids doing chores, helping the household and more, like they did. Which is why they married so young then. Family. But, that is not the point. Honestly, teachers are given no choice anymore but to “raise” kids. If many parents would stop and smell the roses, we wouldn’t have be having this conversation.

  • diana harrell

    There are some really sick people in this country. Kids are not allowed to be kids any more. If parents were actually parenting this stuff would not happen. I just think it’s disgusting to lay this crap on the kids at such a young age.

    • Ben Name

      Just watch out for AG Dot Com. He touches kids inappropriately.

  • ukrichard01

    Bunch of Pedophiles man, it’s Alfred Kinsey, Wilhelm Reich and Sigmund Freud at work here. There should be NO Sex-Ed, kids should have ‘The Talk’ with their parents and that’s it.

    • NastyNate

      If parents were having ‘the talk’ with their kids, it wouldn’t need to be taught in schools. This is a response to the rising std and teen pregnancy rate in our country. Parents are afraid of an uncomfortable conversation and they end up with a pregnant kid.

      • ???

        Nasty Nate loves to Masta Bait

        • NastyNate

          I’m the best lay I ever had. I don’t have to wait until my hand is ‘in the mood’ and my feelings don’t get hurt if I don’t feel like cuddling or talking with myself afterwards. I can’t get myself pregnant, or give myself a disease.

          I’m the freaking bomb. It’s a shame that other people aren’t as lucky.

          • Dorsett Scott Peake

            Dude!!! Almost peed myself!!! Aside from the rightwing banter I’ve read in response to this, that comment is the funniest thing I’ve read all day!!

          • lilyred

            Yeah, real funny. Ha ha ha

      • Diomasach

        Except teen pregnancy rates have been steadily declining for decades.
        But hey, facts don’t matter right? Its all about pushing the progressive agenda right?

        • Gabrielle Alyse

          Could that be because children are being taught about (safe) sex in schools? Who’da thunk it?

          • Diomasach

            Except that the rates have been steadily declining a long time. Long before we started showing vulgar stuff like this to kids.
            Try again…

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            What about this is vulgar? ALL of it is completely natural/normal.

          • Diomasach

            Telling a fourth grader that touching themselves feels “sexy” while showing them naked images of people masturbating is vulgar.
            I’m sorry if you don’t feel that way, but the standard under the law is a “reasonable person” and you hardly qualify as that.

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            Masturbation is a part of life. Nearly everyone does it. It sounds like you’d rather shame your kids than let them know it’s completely normal.

        • NastyNate

          Interesting how the decline in std’s and pregnancy coincide with sex ed being introduced into public schools. Must be a coincidence huh?

          • Diomasach

            So they’re going up, which means we need to show pornography to kids.
            But they have been going down for decades, so, it must be because we’re showing pornography to kids…

            Something tells me you’re just looking for an excuse to show pornography to kids.

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            If you view this as “pornography” you’re the one with the issues.

      • ukrichard01

        You need to get familiar with the work of Dr Judith Reisman and see what she has to say about sex ed, it’s not about the parents refusing to talk with their kids.

  • redrover

    It is a good thing my daughter is no longer in the public school system, for if she were to show me such a book or tell me about it, there would be some very real issues with the school and the district!! I would not stop until that kind of thing was stopped if I had to knock on every door in town!! Such a topic is NOT for the schools to be dealing with and is a private issue altogether. What the heck is the matter with sticking to the education that really teaches students how to have brains and be intelligent and able to hold down a job?…..butt out of the bedroom, sex and anything that is not part of academia. That is why we have so many students graduating and do not have the brains of flea and unable to compete in the world of work because they are ignorant….oh but they know how to have sex and involve themselves in immoral behavior! Real intelligent alright….outrageous!!! What anyone does in private is their business, but what is public IS public and should be in keeping with what is decent and appropriate. That is why homosexuality is an abomination to all that is moral and has nothing to do with rights….rights are the reaccepted human dealings of all time- not just a special group that does not know how to be decent normal human being who have a mental disorder rather and need medical help!! It is a life style choice they have made that most of us think is disgusting. I would raise so much stink that school district would be sorry they reached out of the lines they should with education!!!!! They are idiots to do such things and are only making our children’s lives worse than they already are! What the heck is the matter with some schools and people who decide what is to be taught….they are certainly NOT teaching what they should be, nor stand for what the truly good educational system used to be in this country. No wonder kids are so messed up these days and why so many parents are making sure their children are in private schools where they know what is taught and are a solid part of their children’s education. For those parents that do not care what their kids grown up like, just let them keep on attending public schools that indoctrinate children to evil and anti-American governmental issues…they are not even taught our history anymore or how to have a decent handwriting because they think everyone is stuck to a computer all the time and don’t need decent hand writing….ridiculous! People your children are the future of this nation and if they continue on the permissive and unhealthy way that the schools are heading they will be that way in the future themselves and have no foundation for themselves or children they have…..it is terrible! No faith, no sense, no manners, no discernment, no honor, no morals and no direction…..

    • masturbatinlesbianproabortgirl

      blow it out yer ass. it’s 2014, not 1953. smh.

      • A Romulus

        and what does the calendar have to do with what is right or wrong? A perv is a perv no matter what year the calendar says it is. Try this in a place where respect is still practiced and you will be taught the error of your ways.

      • redrover

        Class, decency, faith, maturity, education and intelligence are timeless and ageless; does not matter when it is in age, time or history! If gays cannot be decent they need to stay where they always have been in time; quiet doing their own thing and not pushing it on the rest of us!! You have all the human rights there are so why push for ones that are not anything to do with gays? Just makes you all look even more ill and pathetic than you are! I feel very sorry for anyone who has made such a choice…you do not have to be as you are, but you CHOOSE to be! I would choose NOT to be pushing my afflictions on others to have to accept, when no one should be put in the position of having to publically! Class, breading and intelligence would tell anyone like that to keep it to themselves or others like them.

      • BADMOJODADDY

        Case in point ^^^. Kill yourself and do the world a favor.

  • rjgwood

    Great book! Really excellent information for kids – perhaps some adults here?

  • Jean Rice

    I wish this book had been available when my kids were younger. I had something similar, but the bodies were all “model perfect.” I love the idea of having something that shows reality.

  • me

    your article holds no merrit. you go to the towns recommended reading list and its not on it.
    and as far as sex ed and sexually provocative books. there all in schools and no one takes them out. I dont agree if this were true. but were are your facts. i click on your page and it told me to enter to win a gun you need to make your page more credible if your trying to make changes

    • Dorsett Scott Peake

      Seriously dude, learn the English language and use it properly! Grammar, punctuation, etc. Not bad enough our education system has failed to provide quality sex education, but clearly it has failed to teach people (i.e. you) proper language skills.

  • Mart Hall

    How dare they try to raise less sexually dysfunctional people! How dare they.

  • David S.

    My how times have changed! Needless to say, they didn’t teach this back when some of us went to school. That was something that your parents taught you at home (it was called “the birds and the bees”.) Go back to teaching science, math, English, history, etc. and save this type of teaching for home when the child is old enough.

    • NastyNate

      The problem is that a lot of parents aren’t teaching this stuff at home.

      • dnhook

        Then they shouldn’t have kids.

        • Bemmy

          That’s how they got kids, nobody taught them

          • dnhook

            That is the parent’s job, not the state.

        • NastyNate

          Well if they had been properly educated, they might not have. But I completely agree with you.

    • dp

      Wasn’t that their original task and charter? To teach science, math, English, and history. Manners, morals, honesty, sex, truth etc. were all to be taught at home.

  • momnlovinit

    Honestly I think the schools should just educate the parents who cant teach their children about what they need to know about sex. I disagree with this book being forced down the throat of a fourth grader because it doesnt agree with what I believe. However, I DO talk to my kids frequently about things of a sexual nature so I am less than worried about what my children will get out of this. PARENTS one great way to counteract this thing is to make sure they have strong teaching AT HOME!! Don’t complain about what the schools are teaching until u are ready to teach them yourselves what you expect as far as sexual behavior, as far as their changing bodies, and their changing feelings. Its uncomfortable sometimes , sure, but its OUR responsibility as parents to provide that information.

    • NastyNate

      You’re doing it right. Thank you. If all parents were like you then this stuff wouldn’t need to be taught in school.

      • momnlovinit

        Maybe mandatory sex talk preparedness course for parents? Lol

        • NastyNate

          Seriously. Sometimes being a parent means uncomfortable conversations. But many parents today try too hard to be their kid’s pal, instead of their mentor.

          • momnlovinit

            Amen to that !!! Or they’re just so involved in their own lives, too busy doing what makes them happy , that they’re not involved enough with their kids to pick up on the cues of when they need to discuss something(sex, drugs, bad friendships, etc) …. so sad…

          • momnlovinit

            Amen to that!! Or they become so involved with what makes them happy that the childs need for instruction cannot be met…ive seen that waaay to much , not hating on anyone, but especially the thirty-teen crowd..(.where mom or dad feels like being a teenager again because the kids are half grown and now they can have a life again) smh

  • Jeorgia

    This is fantastic. We’re really showing our colors as a Puritan and Victorian influenced society when we hate on this. Would people rather their children get the wrong info from their friends and the web? I was lucky to have a mom openly talk to me about these things but many children are not.

    • Betty

      Sex education is very important, it should come from home not the schools and definitely not taught to fourth graders. This in my opinion, would only lead to exploration

      • Gabrielle Alyse

        What do you think not being educated about sex leads to?

        • iwasfreeonce

          Not thinking about it in most case.

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            Keep lying to yourself.

          • Keruc

            The issue really isn’t whether or not children should be educated. They should, but at an appropriate age and by the parents. This is a poor substitute, and not what most decent parents would agree with.

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            How can we monitor whether or not parents are teaching their children about sex? And if they’re not, where/how do you think kids will learn about it?

          • snowmaggedoned

            Wow….I don’t know how on earth mankind has proliferated throughout the centuries without sex education.

            They never taught sex education to children in school until after the 1970′s. Guess nobody learned how to screw until after those classes to the children.

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            Surely not every child learned about sex from their parents before sex ed. in schools. Some learned from friends, some from the internet, some from their own experience. When I have children of my own I’d rather them be educated and make smart decisions. When I have children of my own, I won’t be too scared or embarrassed to talk to them about sex like many parents are today.

          • snowmaggedoned

            Of course not every child learned about sex from their parents.

            I didn’t get talked to about sex from my parents, and I didn’t have a promiscuity problem as a teenager.

            It didn’t cause me to have sex issues as an adult.

            I figured sex out for myself without adults preaching to me about it either. Most people figured it out on their own and older generations still didn’t run up the teenage pregnancy rate the way kids are now.

            In fact, I’ve noticed that teenage pregnancies and unwed mother rates became more prevalent because of more and more introduction of sex education to younger and younger kids.

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            I suppose we should just agree to disagree.

          • Jerry

            It is not your job or anyone else’s job to monitor what parents teach their children. I mean who the f are you to tell anyone what to do. I am so sick of people thinking it is their right to tell others what to do. We are a Republic and a free nation with the right to freely choose how, what and when or not to teach our children. It is none of your business. If you people want to live in a nanny state then please pick one of the many that the world has already and move there if you think it is any better then what we have here. But stop trying to turn the USA in to one.

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            I suppose you’d rather have a bunch of hormone filled kids running around knowing nothing about sex? Kids need to know about sex, as it is a natural way of life. If their parents struggle with talking to them about it (and MANY do), I think it’s just fine for schools to teach about it.

          • Jerry

            Oh Please, No one is saying not to teach them. I am saying let the parents decide how and when. Just because a few parents are uncomfortable discussing sex with their child does not give you or anyone else the right to butt in on how everyone deals with this issue. I have no problems with schools teaching it either as long as the parent is asked first. If the parent decides it is not for them then it is their right to say no. But it is not the governments right to overstep the parents right to choose what and when their child learns something of this nature.

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            Where I’m from, parents are asked for their consent beforehand. I think that’s a good idea that should be practiced in all schools.

          • Jerry

            I am glad we can agree on this. I am in no way against this being taught. But I strongly believe it is the parent that gets to choose when. how and who gets to teach it. We need to be very careful how much we allow the government to get involved. Most adults are smart and can decide for themselves what is right for their child. Some maybe not so much. But we are a free nation, or at least supposed to be and it is still their right to choose.

          • iwasfreeonce

            Some children learn about sex early on, usually through parental neglect of pornographic material, or some kind of sexual abuse. “Most” children at that age have no idea what sex is, and have no sexual urges. For some it is good but for most it actually introduces sex for the first time. Everyone is born with no knowledge, everything we know has to be taught to us, so if it is not discussed, it is not known. I was taught sex, and I remember it, and i rememebr how it changed my life and the way i thought about everything. but some knowledge is better left unknown until questioned. And if the child is afraid to ask the parent, then there is obviously a parenting fail happening.

          • Jeff

            yea right, your the expert!

          • Gabrielle Alyse

            And you are?

          • NastyNate

            That might be possible in a world without the internet. But in todays world, they are going to be exposed to this info. You can’t be over their shoulder 24/7. It’s better that they learn it from somebody who can teach them properly, instead of a stranger in a chatroom.

        • Betty

          In fourth grade, most kids haven’t even thought about sex yet, put that book in front of them and they are gonna think about sex. I also stated that sex ed is very important.

    • DrWayner

      People would rather teach their children about these matters in the privacy of their homes and in the manner in which their beliefs are based. When anyone uses the “hate” word it points out how simple and brainwashed they are. If you would look a little deeper you would see the real problem is that which causes children to not have parents who are loving and attentive to the facts of life. This is no place for government influence especially this government and you are ill advised and give bad advice.

      • Jeorgia

        Are you speaking for all people here. ALL of us. You know what everyone wants? Censorship is often a slippery slope. I, as one of these “people” you speak of, am fine with my 7 and 13 year old kids reading this book. I’m not for censoring children. As a mom, I will guide my children by explaining and warning them about the world around them.
        Calling me “brainwashed” and “simple.” These are not debating methods of an educated individual. I my be a faceless person online but I am still a person. Please refrain from personal attacks or “hating” on me. It takes away from one’s credibility. I mean, like, OMG, she’s, like, using the lingo of her generation. She MUST be derp-tastic! “Especially this government.”We elect this government and it reflects that! “You are ill advised and give bad advice.” These are merely my opinions and you are again judging me and using personal attacks.
        Pfft…nice try but change comes from constructive thought and actions.

        • DrWayner

          Jeor, I said people not “sheeple” and you have a very conflictive argument going on here, “you are fine with the book, but you will advise your children as you see fit.” My point is your latter one. Sheeple who use the “hate” word as well as those who attempt to disqualify by claiming personal attack are among the zombie set we have too many of posting liberal crap they do not have a firm grip on. The simple fact of the issue at hand here is the government is way to invasive in our lives and needs to butt out. And, if you can’t take the heat, stay the flip out of the kitchen.

          • Jeorgia

            Ah, I see now. “Sheeple,” “zombie,” “liberal crap.” These are all fantastic buzz words. And that’s DrJeor! Btw, you’re totally twisting my words, DrSpindoctor. Baah!

          • DrWayner

            Not just ‘buzz words’ young-un, they have meaning and actual points attached to them which many seek to avoid. Un twist your words for me, please.

    • dp

      No, I think not. We just would like the opportunity to raise our children and not allow the State to train a future convict that has no respect for themselves or others.

    • redrover

      No, it only shows ignorance and the fact that there is little to no faith in this nation anymore. Many are wondering why we are failing as a nation and if not careful we will be a communist one at that soon. It is pathetic that Americans have turned on faith in God…once most went to church and understood what was acceptable behavior and what was needed where. Education of all types is important at the right time and in the right way. Parents have failed their children for some time now…but then if I had a smart mouthed pot smoking lazy trashy kid like most are today I might not want to or have the chance to be a decent parent to the likes of kids today…sickening! They have no respect for themselves, no honor, no decent speech or manner’s, no thought for anyone but themselves and no plans for the future…just thinking they can be as they are and make it in the world. Ah would love to be a fly on the wall to see toughs that think the way they do when they cannot get on in the world because they have no intelligence or personal sense!

      • Jeorgia

        Yeah, not all kids are awful. Mine are a great example of that. Smart, respectful, great grades, fantastic selection of friends, open minded, and kind. Oh, and EEK! we’re not Christian! Good values come from good people. Not all children have parents with good values. Who else will step in and teach them?

  • Frank_in_Spokane

    Somebody please tell me again, WHY is it that parents keep sending their kids to the public sewers … er, SCHOOLS?

    • dp

      Expensive baby sitters I’m thinking. Used to be that a parent made a choice to be a parent and not elect for a career till the kids were gone.

  • Zechariah C. Petersen

    WTF Does putting on a condom and wacking off have to do with a 9 and 10 year olds education .. this is perversion and is not normal teachings, for this age group!! twisted indigents!

    • NastyNate

      Masturbating satiates a sexual urge. Condoms prevent pregnancy and std’s. Kids are having sex at a younger age and ‘waiting till marriage’ is failing harder than ever. Then need to me made aware of the risks. If a better solution is found, I’m all for it. But until then, education is the key.

      • Jeff

        In 6th grade, NOT 4th grade!!!

        • NastyNate

          Kids aren’t as dumb as you would like them to be. They get on the internet, they watch tv. They get curious. I would much rather have this stuff explained by teachers than strangers in a chatroom.

      • dp

        Stick it in your ear, not my kids head.

        • NastyNate

          If if would reach my ear, I would have a job on the internet doing webcam shows. But alas, I wasn’t that blessed.

          • dp

            Sorry bout that NastyNate. Maybe someone upstairs tried to tell you that your short comings in anatomy might just be a blessing for us all.

      • jmark80

        I have an 8 year old and an 11 year old. My 11 year old is just now reaching the age where he is getting curious. So we have had the sex talk, and he also knows that if he has any questions, he can ask me anything and receive an honest answer.

        My 8 year old is not even remotely interested in sexual function, and as her father, I do not feel that now is the appropriate time in her life to expose her to sex. She will have the rest of her life to deal with that.

        The point being, is that as a father it is up to me to decide when this extremely delicate subject is broached with my kids, and in what manner it is to be done in. I would not approve of either of my kids looking at a book with an illustration of a girl and a boy masturbating. I think we all did quite fine figuring out how to do it without vaguely pedophilic images being shown to us.

        I agree with education being the best route to a healthy view of sex, but this book being shown to 4th graders is too much too soon.

    • LadySheDevil

      Speaking as one who started masturbating even before 9 or 10, I think educating them about it is infinitely better than telling them “no, that’s dirty, don’t do that ever again” and making them believe that it’s not normal and disgusting like I was taught. Though putting that in schools is questionable. Better for a parent to have that on hand instead. It could be a valuable teaching tool though.

  • Diomasach

    So…
    Showing naked pictures to kids is a felony in all 50 states. So why aren’t the teachers being thrown in jail?

    • NastyNate

      Showing pornography to kids is a crime. This isn’t pornography. Are you actually turned on by this stuff?

      • Patriot1

        Who is paying you to troll and post this tripe? No one is buying it and I am sure you have probably already earned your Obama phone, food stamps and government contractor income equality wage, so just buzz off and go troll the next conservative blog on your list!

        • Gabrielle Alyse

          He’s sharing his opinion just as you are. Do you think you have the authority to tell people whose opinions differ from your own where and what to post? Ha.

      • Diomasach

        No, but it certainly meets the standard of the law for pornographic content, particularly where children are concerned.

      • George LeBlanc

        You should open a bait shop, Nate.

    • Bemmy

      They are not naked pictures of real people, they are drawings and not of real people. We had the same books in school but all the pictures showed outlines of perfect people. I was in school in the 60′s and early 70′s. I think you might be offend because they are not drawings of “beautiful” people

  • Patriot1

    We all have different ideas about what to teach our kids when and as parents we have both the right and the responsibility to teach them about sex how wand when we see fit. It is not the government’s place to do that, but we have to battle our government for our every God Given right now and this is no different. The problem of teen pregnancy has its roots in the utter immorality which government and pop culture have actively promoted. Morality in America has its roots in the Judeo-Christian theology that secularist fools are so quick to denigrate and dismiss. The lack of this morality has destroyed the underpinnings of American culture and led to the destructive behaviors that are plaguing us. Now government and their statist allies in Hollywood want to solve the problems they have created by adding more immorality. No thanks! My kid has already learned what he needs to know from me and he is out of your corrupt communist education camps aka public schools.

  • Demosthenes

    This is fantastic. I wish I’d had this at that age, instead of being taught shame. Put it back and keep it there!

    • redrover

      There is no shame to be a sexual being, but there is shame when it is not done at the appropriate time, in an appropriate and acceptable way, proper place and age. The trashing of sexuality in every way possible has made it dirty and used as anything but what it is supposed to be; a cherished means to love your husband or wife…..not before. And certainly NOT taught to as a very young child. There is no place for such until a much older age;..let kids be innocent kids and teach them accordingly when it is time to- as their parent. If it is not comfortable for you to tell your child, you take them to the doctor so they can!

      • Demosthenes

        The age they’ve got this, which is about 10 or 11, is the average age at which children begin having a lot of questions about their bodies, their sexuality, and their identities. A good proportion who weren’t told it was ‘shameful’ began masturbating around this time. An honest, open, understandable book is an amazing idea. For one – this is a book. I’ve been around teachers my whole life. Something on a ‘reading list’ isn’t curriculum. It’s on the bookshelf. It’s in the library. It’s available. I remember the ‘sex’ books my parents bought me at 10 or 11. They gave them to me so I’d have the information when I was ready to read them. I don’t see this much differently. Right around this age is where boys steal their father’s pornography and girls steal their mother’s Harlequin novels. The percentage of kids at 12 or 13 who are sexually active is -astounding- and terrifying. I would rather see more information and open discussion than yet another unintelligible rant from the elder generation of how ‘wrong’ they are. We didn’t listen at their age to our parents telling us how degenerate we were, and they won’t either. They’re only going to pay attention if we have something real, something useful to say.

        Re: Miley Cyrus, we’re actually on the same page. There’s having a sex-positive view on relationships and life…then there’s -that-.

  • Troyboy

    Why not let th