About the author: Doug Giles

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  • Croco Dile

    In the twentieth century after the traditional advent of the Son of the Jewish Yahveh on earth, the religion which is built around that event persists in a congeries of primitive cosmological notions, which modern knowledge has made totally obsolete. The Hebrew, and ancient primitive, notions of the architectural scheme of their very limited universe were intimately related to, and an integral part of, their scheme of theology and of eschatology, or after-life affairs as they conceived them. Their notions of God, of heaven, of hell, and of after-life, were adapted, and were adaptable only, to the narrow limits of the universe as imagined by the ancient theologians. And present-day Christian theology adopts wholly and wholly rests upon the ancient Hebrew revelation of earth and heaven and hell – with fire later kindled in the last.
    According to this ancient Hebrew revelation, the earth is flat and four-cornered; the sun moves around it as a center, and on occasion can be made to stand still in its course. No great distance above the flat surface of the earth is a solid arched “firmament,” in which the sun, moon, and stars are somehow set and on which they move. Just within this firmament, which is a solid something which “divides the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament” (Gen. I,7)

    Priests ruled the ancient world and kings superstitiously did their crafty bidding. For centuries priests dominated the modern world and made kings superstitiously grovel before them and don and doff their crowns at their command. Priestcraft to-day proclaims itself vicar of Yahveh God on earth, and strives yet mightily to impose itself on the minds and consciences of men, through their superstitious fears, invented and imposed by priest and clergy, and through the awful but anachronistic authority of the “keys of heaven and hell.” It is all the same old priestly game, very little modernized.

    • chamuiel

      Uh Huh. Are you doing drugs?

      • Croco Dile

        No. Why do you ask ?
        Are you a junkie yourself ?
        Or do want to sell something to me ?

    • herdzcatz

      Now I guess it’s those who are the “kings” without priests (other than those spectacularly loving imams or mullahs) who get to dominate and manipulate the masses. Great. See where that’s getting us. Oh? EPA has declared my land the habitation of an endangered species? I blindly believe the new priest class and move out, and get to “suffer for Barack” as I lose everything I’ve built. Oh? I get to keep my doctor? I blindly believe the new priests in the land and buy the policy, lose my identity in the process, and have a $6000 deductible while paying $250 more a month. But Praise to Science and Progressives, I get to suffer for Barack. There’s more, but I need to update my FB page–the NSA is hungry. All hail the power of Science and Progressive politics, let peasants prostrate fall. Jesus the Christ? Please–only backwards, unevolved beings believe in HIm. Oh, the mythology of it all! And I do embrace that “mythology” boldly and unashamedly. And when I die, if I was wrong, it doesn’t matter a lick. And when you die, if you were wrong, it’ll matter–a hell of a lot.

      • Croco Dile

        A lot of confusion in your brain…..

        Why don’t you bring order in ?

        What do you want to understand, religion and politics ?

  • Mario

    I can’t, and won’t even try to speak for God, and Hoffman isn’t coming to my place – so I guess wherever it is he will be going isn’t my concern. I can only take care of me and my failures, and triumphs, and sometimes – that’s plenty hard enough.

  • chamuiel

    I don’t think they bypass Hell. I think that is wishful thinking on the part of Liberals.

    • KC135TopBoom

      Liberals are incapable of thinking, wishful or otherwise.

  • Chris P

    Doug – you are a grown adult (well I assume that). Why do you still believe in a magic God and an impossible heaven or hell? Don’t you know any science or biology?

    • KC135TopBoom

      Then why do you libs call Obama the messiah?

      • Chris P

        I am not aware of very many people calling him that – especially liberals. He is too far to the right – implementing Republican policies.

        • willythegeek

          It sounds like you don’t know your right from your left.

        • Threemarie

          Check out Barbara Walter’s comment about Obama. She believed that he was the second coming of Jesus Christ. She admitted this a month or so ago. I don’t know if she is still of this opinion or not. The Bible clearly warns of false prophets and false messiahs. People believe they can fix the world’s problems and save themselves when clearly they cannot. Many, like Mr. Hoffman turn to pharmaceuticals for help. This never works. Jesus Christ is the only answer, but sadly many reject Him in favor of human answers. Sad.

          • Chris P

            Why do your give so much credibility to a celebrity like that who is close buddies with Fox’s Ailes?

            Jesus does not appear to be the answer to billions across the planet. I have met many who don’t believe and most seem to live just fine.

          • wiggumc1

            They may live just fine, the problem is, what happens when they die? How will they be living then?

      • Jabsdna

        Excellent question ! They do not think beyond the moment, well to tell you the truth they do not think at all. They just expect the world to follow them directly to destruction and still be praised just like Ovomit. That’s just how IGNORANT they are :)

    • http://2wheels2lanes1camera.blogspot.com/ Ryderwriter

      He doesn’t believe in a magic God. That’s a childish belief. He believes in the one true God. Got a problem with that?

      • Chris P

        Which one is that? So many religions all with made up stuff and Doug hasn’t managed to convince the others that his version is the right one.

        • http://2wheels2lanes1camera.blogspot.com/ Ryderwriter

          How many religions?
          How much is made up?
          How much is true?

          • Chris P

            Well – there are thousands and only one can be the one true religion. So statistically they are pretty much all made up and none are true.

          • http://2wheels2lanes1camera.blogspot.com/ Ryderwriter

            If you’re right and I’m wrong, then we both win. If I’m right and you’re wrong, you lose.

          • Chris P

            You are losing already by spending time on what is non-proven goal. If you knew more about how your body worked and stored information it would be clear that there can be no afterlife. Alzheimer’s sufferers are a clear and factual proof of that. A steady decline in brain function that at some point stops them from being able to recognize even their own relatives let alone a “God”. In normal death of the brain this process is just accelerated. There is no memory or function to allow doing anything.

        • Jesus is God

          The God we measure time by, Jesus.

          • Chris P

            No – that is not an answer. Which religion is the right one.

          • Jesus is God

            No religion can save you, only Jesus can.

    • shelly

      Science changes regularly….in the 70’s the globe was cooling and we were all gonna die, now its supposedly warming and we’re all gonna die. One day science says eggs are a wonder food, the next they are basically poison to avoid. How many medicine s has science given us that are “wonder drugs” that turn out are hazardous and kill people. Asbestos was great and good for everything according to science….ask my neighbor with mesothelioma what he thinks about that!
      MY POINT IS….I find it silly when ppl claim science to shame those of us who believe in God. If anything, at least our God is more consistent than your science. I won’t and cannot judge you, but I do humbly ask you to give Jesus a chance before you put your trust in supposed “science”….I use the quotes because I trust in Jesus and find that that in no way goes against sound and proven science. I’m not looking for an argument, I just want help, so I again humbly ask, give Jesus a chance. Ask God, whether you believe He hears you or not, to reveal Himself to you if He is real and keep an open mind. If I’m wrong, no harm and no foul. If I’m right, you are in for the most real love you’ve ever known, and oh yeah, that awesome bonus of eternal life in a healed place with no sin, pain or death. Jesus is Lord!

      • Chris P

        I don’t want eternal life, it makes no sense. I have designed a whole load of stuff and have passed on a load of information as a mentor. I cannot see how a “heaven” or “hell” would be of any use to what I as a person would want to do.

        • Jesus is God

          That’s your choice. If you do not want eternal life, so be it. Just beware that what you have chosen is eternal condemnation.

          • Chris P

            I haven’t chosen anything.

          • Jesus is God

            God has provided a means to be saved, faith in Jesus Christ. You say you don’t want eternal life, that is making a choice.

          • Chris P

            There is no choice. Once your brain is dead – things are OVER.

          • Jesus is God

            So your choice is to deny God. God tells us that we have an eternal soul. Matt 25:46 Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.

          • Chris P

            My choice is to learn how the human body works and understand that what you are saying is not possible.

        • wiggumc1

          It doesn’t matter what you want. Everyone will live eternally after death. The question is where, heaven or hell?

          • Chris P

            Clearly you have no clue how your own brain works. Hope you find out before you waste more time on your fruitless gaol.

  • Carlotta Tradebare

    I am just not sure where in the bible it says that if someone is a moron and uses heroin and dies he has to go to hell. Jesus would have accepted him

  • sbruce1154

    I don’t about you people but in my teachings of the Bible I never saw anywhere where it said if you entertained us you got a pass on all of your bad deeds. I think that might fall under the premise that it is between you and God, and if you haven’t yet redeemed yourself with Jesus than you might have a problem.

  • Politiwars

    The fact is that the biggest, most Godless, pro-drug and pro-violence group is the entertainment industry, and it has been for literally decades. They will not get a pass just for being entertainers.

  • higgy01

    Whether they self destruct or not is a moot point. Entertainers, so-called stars, have no redeeming social or any other type of value. They make no positive contribution to society they just suck up resources and do so with arrogance. Someone working on a production line makes a far more positive contribution but never gets recognized.

  • jb80538

    I don’t think so! It’s not what they have done, it’s what they believe. Most are totally immoral in that they engage in immoral sexual acts with members of the same sex and promote the murder of innocent unborn babies. Why would God allow them to spend eternity in Heaven for that?

  • http://yahoo.com/ peter kirk

    hell no!! they just lead the way for all the other commie/prog’s who already have their one way ticket!

  • Jesus is God

    Jesus tells us that whoever believes in him goes to heaven and whoever does not believe in him goes to hell.

    • Watchman on the Wall

      Not true. You give an incomple example of what it takes to receive salvation through Christ Jesus. GO back to school and get the full example… unrepentant sin does not get anyone salvation. Your example is of the apostasy of hyper-grace.

      • Jesus is God

        Repent means to change your mind. It is changing your mind about Jesus that must take place. The only way we are saved is by grace.

        Eph 2:8 For it is by GRACE you have been SAVED , through faith-and this is not FROM YOURSELVES, it is the gift of God.

        Sounds to me lie salvation is solely from God’s grace. But maybe you’re right.

        Gal 2:21 I do not set aside God’s grace, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing.

        No, you’re wrong. The bible tells us that we cannot save ourselves by anything we do, only God can save us and God tells us it is by believing in Jesus.

      • http://2wheels2lanes1camera.blogspot.com/ Ryderwriter

        School not needed, unless it is a requirement to read the Bible. Unrepentant sin does not keep one out of Heaven. Have YOU repented of everyone of the thoughts you thought so far today that are not Godly thoughts? Considering you may have had as many as 10,000 thoughts today, and if only 1% of them were sinful thoughts, you’d be pretty much like an angel, 99% good and only 1% sinful. So, have you repented of that 1% of ungodly thoughts? That would mean 100 moments of repentance, and to repent means to not repeat nor return to that of which you have repented.

    • Yukon36

      Whoever believes in him and does the will of the Father. Doing drugs is not the will of the Father.

      • Jesus is God

        John 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

        So according to Jesus, he did not come to condemn the world, (means everyone0, but to save the world, and salvation would be THROUGH HIM.

        So how does this occur?

        John 3:18 Whoever believes in him is NOT CONDEMNED, but WHOEVER does not believe stands condemned already because they have not BELIEVED in the name of God’s one and only Son.

        Nowhere does Jesus say there are any conditions to being saved other than believing in Him.

        Of course, you probably know better than God.

      • http://2wheels2lanes1camera.blogspot.com/ Ryderwriter

        So, I guess there has not been one single moment when you have NOT done the will of the Father, and therefore you say you have no sin. Indeed doing drugs, eating too much, or judging others is not the will of the Father. But of course you’re perfect and you’ve always done the will of the father.
        I believe the will of the Father is to believe on the Son, is it not?

        • Jesus is God

          Since when is eating too much a sin? Jesus ate all the time, in fact they called him a glutton and a drunkard.

          Luke 7:34 The Son of Man, (Jesus), came eating and drinking, and you say, “Here is a glutton and a drunkard.”…..

          • http://2wheels2lanes1camera.blogspot.com/ Ryderwriter

            He was also called a drunk but that does not make it so.

          • Jesus is God

            No, but they did call him a drunk, because he drank. They called him a glutton because he ate, a lot.
            Are you saying Jesus sinned?

          • http://2wheels2lanes1camera.blogspot.com/ Ryderwriter

            Proverbs 23 warns us, “Do not join those who drink too much wine or gorge
            themselves on meat, for drunkards and gluttons become poor, and
            drowsiness clothes them in rags.” “Put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony.” Proverbs 28 declares, “He who keeps the law is a discerning son, but a companion of gluttons disgraces his father.”

  • grandmal006@yahoo.com

    God is the judge and jury. If they are immoral and they do things god does not approve of, when judgment day comes, God will pass judgment. I believe he will ask why they did those things.

    • Jesus is God

      Romans 3:10 As it is written, “there is no one righteous, not even one.”

      According to your belief all will be condemned, no one will be saved.

      Romans 4:5 However, to the one that does not work but trusts God who JUSTIFIES THE UNGODLY, their faith is credited as righteousness.

      Thank God that he justifies all that believe in Jesus.

      • b glad

        The unrepentant will have judged themselves and found unworthy. God’s judgement is for the church, whether our deeds are found worthy of reward.

        • Jesus is God

          Is that in the bible? Cite the verses.

          • willythegeek

            Luke 13:3 has what you are looking for.

          • Jesus is God

            Luke 13:3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.

            What does it mean to repent?

    • http://2wheels2lanes1camera.blogspot.com/ Ryderwriter

      Entry in to Heaven is not on the basis of which is more abundant, your moral or your immoral acts.

      • Chris P

        In other words there is not a set of coherent rules.

        • http://2wheels2lanes1camera.blogspot.com/ Ryderwriter

          I certainly do not believe that. Nor did I say that. If it’s “in other words,” it’s not my words.

          • Chris P

            No – it’s not your words – it’s the fact that your version differs from others and is not definitive or measurable.

  • SkySoldier

    To answer the banner headline question – NO! Just look to the Biblical example of Sodom & Gomorrah which was all about self serving entertaining straight to hell. Also, the Bible warns everyone (not just believers) about using drugs – pharmacai in Galatians 5:19-21: “Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time
    past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”

    • b glad

      Some of the most self serving entertainment I’ve seen lately is going on the pulpits of our churches, whether Mega or mini.

      • SkySoldier

        Absolutely correct. Most church leadership today is apostate to Biblical Christianity. Pastors set themselves up as the sole authority (Nicolaitan) over what the Bible teaches for “plurality of elders and deacons”. Many sincere Bible believing Christians have stopped attending church because it’s become mostly religious humanism and socialistic. The Bible warns about the Great Falling Away and it is here. Many professed believers have become “universalists” and “man-chasers” rather than sincere followers of Christ Jesus. Jesus condemns the seven churches in Revelation…even the only two who were not what they seem to be.

  • Coloradotim

    Sadly so true, not everyone gets to heaven, one can never be sure about someone else but if he was a horse I wouldn’t bet on him

  • Denver Kitty

    Has everyone forgotten that HEROIN is ILLEGAL??? It always astounds me that wealthy Hollyweird liberals are such perverts and lawbreakers.

    • X501st

      But, But,…..did not Our Leader recently compare the use of his favorite illegal drug the same as having a beer? Therefore, can using the illegal drug heroin be much worse than a drinking, say a martini, or smoking a cigarette?
      (Sadly under the Leader’s reign , our Nation has turned more away from God, and has been embracing his god). There will be a price to pay!

    • TXSoldier254

      So true!! Some of them are Satanists/Illuminates.

  • bob machaffy

    It seems the public worships & go out of their way to morn & makes all kinds of excuses for these actors & actresses who commit suicide by drugs on a higher level than the average Jo and/or Jane who commits suicide by overdosing….. they forget these are the people your children worship & use as an example to live their lives, see how successful he was & he used drugs. How many have died in the past 20 years, that were great, but the demon of drugs took control them from the first smoke, weed to harder drugs, because higher never gets high enough & their is always that next trip that they don’t come down from.

  • Mys77

    As far as I am concerned, actors and actrsses love playing characters, and say vile things, depict murder and perversions and call it art and entertainment. They get paid very well for playing prostitutes, killers, sexual deviants…. and love doing it. But God is watching, seeing the friuts of their labor. Sees how they live for the flesh and the money, and not Him. They don’t glorify God, they ridicule Him, and the only time they mention God, is at the death of some addict. The mind of an actor lives in a fantasy of make believe, where there are no consequences, and no reality. It use to be actors were little more than prostitutes, now I think they are even lower than that. This guy chose to live the life, choses to play the roles he did, did he ever think about God and his judgement?

  • Joe

    People like Hoffman are just plain selfish. They think or care about those they hurt. They are protruded like the saints they’re not.

    • http://2wheels2lanes1camera.blogspot.com/ Ryderwriter

      Did you know him well enough to attribute to him those qualities?

  • McFerguson

    Most liberals subscribe to the moral philosophy of “If it feels good, do it.” The concept of right and wrong, good and bad is simply set aside for the next high, whether it’s
    from booze or drugs, or some orgy they attend because they can. And of course, nobody’s responsible for anything. Not when your young, wealthy, stupid and clueless.

    For Hoffman, himself, you were a great actor and a lousy human being. Hope you finally got over yourself.

  • Susan

    All “Just” governments promote Virtue in the people. Justice is the Queen of Virtue. It is the only reason for a “Justice System” which can only exist in a “Civil” society.

    Socrates stated without Virtue, you can have no Free Republic. This is proven over and over in history. Once a people promote Vice and dysfunctions to their children 24/7–actually glorifying evil and making people “wealthy”while they are doing evil—-then those children will get a warped perspective of Reality—and destroy all their own relationships and future by copying their role models.

    Rotten Cultures will collapse—like the vulgar Weimar Republic did, and Rome and Greece and Sodom and Gomorrah, etc. etc. etc.

    Virtue is necessary for Freedom. Vice makes people slaves of the flesh and material world. It is nihilism.

  • Al

    This is just what I have been saying for years. We are no longer aPersona God fearing people. When we lose sight of God as the Father on high we let ourselves go thinking no matter what we do it is fine by Him so long as we do something nice once in a while. Personally I think we need some sign from God to straighten things out, but remember what Jesus said to Thomas, “Blessed are you for you have seen and believe, but more blessed will be those who have not seen and believe.” He wants us to come back to Him, but only by faith. Not by His interactionl

  • pissed of conservative

    doug arnt you a felon?? how can you own guns?? from being this drug addict you talk about being?? i believe you are saved as am i..but ive heard you were a felon?? correct me if im wrong

    • TRex

      Giles isn’t a felon. BTW, try spell checking your ramblings.

      • pissed of conservative

        yes sir here is a word or two i can spell..[dick head aka you] i was asking if he was a felon ..obviously you cant understand when people voice a ?

      • pissed of conservative

        i have been listening to Giles.. for a while and im a saved CHRISTIAN..HE IS VERY JUDGMENTAL.. and very arrogant.. and T REX FU.. YOU MUST BE ONE OF THOSE DUMB TEXANS..OR DRINK THE giles cool aid.. or both.. iw ould say your a dumb texan and a giles kool aid drinker..and his cigars suck too..just like you t rex

  • http://2wheels2lanes1camera.blogspot.com/ Ryderwriter

    Doug, in your library, do you have the Lamb’s Book of Life? Do you know where Hoffman is right now? Are you saying that because he died with a needle in his arm, he is now in Hell?
    As much as I agree with most of your thoughts, The Bible teaches that a person’s addictions, habits or activities will not keep them from Heaven, nor will they usher one in to Hell. It’s possible for true born again believers, “the elect,” the blood-bought sinners of the world to do bad things such as drugs — and still get to heaven. It’s possible that moral and ethical people of high-standards will go to Hell. After all, it’s a contract bought in blood — not mine. It’s by grace are you saved, not by works.
    Condemning drug addicts, entertainers and others who are self-destructive narcissists completely puts you in the place of the judge, and we know you are not the judge nor are you the Justifier.

    • TRex

      You missed the point Giles was making. Reporters and commentators were saying Hoffman’s ‘at peace now’ and what Giles was saying was how do we know? He could very well not be at peace and his hellish, destructive lifestyle, is not a good sign.

      • http://2wheels2lanes1camera.blogspot.com/ Ryderwriter

        Ahhh…but Doug does not say that. He rails against a lifestyle, perhaps because of his own disappointment with his own previous lifestyle. Using the death of someone to cast such disparaging remarks and blanket condemnation speaks not of a sinner saved by grace, but of a man with a past he condemns when he sees it in others and assumes they are dead in their sin.

  • Az

    Hey Doug-Sounds like you have been in my head and wrote everything down!!!

    • Colleen Phillips

      Too bad for you!

  • redtag501

    It is not for the righteous to judge others, even Philip Seymour Hoffman. Most of us, including his family, only know of him what they have seen, heard and read about him. We don’t know what was in his heart. He had an addiction. A disease. And it killed him. Jesus associated with addicts, prostitutes, tax collectors. The lowest of the low in society. He knew of their suffering and he knew what was in their hearts. And he judged them not. The best, most law abiding, the cleanest, the most selfless amongst us is not without sin. We are no more secure to the Kingdom of Heaven than anyone else for the trash we store in all those secret little places in the heart that no one knows about. By Grace alone are we spared the eternal damnation and that by way of Jesus’ sacrifice, not ours.

    • cris

      “By their fruits will you know they are my disciples” His ‘fruits’ were rotten and they gave away his spiritual identity….

      • Jesus is God

        That’s not what he said.

        John 13:35 By this everyone will know you are my disciples, if you love one another.

  • Michael Skok

    I really don’t know anything about this Phillip Seymour Hoffman. That’s how much TV I watch or go to the movies. Jesus told us what kind of people go to heaven and what kind go to hell in Matthew 25:35-46. “Then shall the King say to them on his right hand, ‘Come, blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me meat, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you took me in, Naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison, and you came to me. The righteous will answer by asking him when they did all these things to him. And the King shall answer and say to them, ‘Verily I say to you, Inasmuch as you have done it to one of the least of these my brethren, you have done it to me.” And he will say to the ones on his left that they did not do all those things to him. And they will answer when they didn’t do those things to him. He will answer, ‘Inasmuch as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.” And these shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into life eternal.” Those who help other people have nothing to worry about. That doesn’t sound like Phillip Seymour Hoffman from what I’ve read on this site so far.

  • medivac

    Most of the Hollyweird bunch seems to already have bought their one way tickets to hell wnen they lost their way to earth and put themselves on their narcissis way to where ever they thought they should be !!

    • Evan White

      But there is victory in the Lord i say Victory in the lord cling to the Father and his holy name and don’t go ridin on that long black train!!! – Josh Turner song

    • Colleen Phillips

      They lost their way to earth? What planet did they occupy to begin with? I thought Hollywood was a city on Earth. And what is a “narcissis way?”

  • Threemarie

    The problem as I see it is that people are unwilling to repent of their sins.
    Jesus Christ died for the sins of all, and because of His sacrifice, and ONLY because of His sacrifice, we who repent and believe in Him as our only Savior have been made right with God. But we cannot continue living sin filled, unrepentant lives. Hell is very real. People who reject Jesus and His saving grace will find themselves there. We are to keep God’s commandments. We are to honestly repent of our sinful ways. We are to live Godly lives. Did Mr. Hoffman truly repent as he lay dying? Only God knows. Only God knows what was in this man’s heart. But it is wrong for people to go around saying that people who have died are in Heaven or are in “a good place,” when the deceased has never had a relationship with God, and has not led a Christian life. They say these things in order to comfort themselves and others.
    Isn’t it strange: people who reject Jesus and His laws for living oftentimes try to convince themselves that they will be just fine after they die, even though they have been courting Hell and the devil during their lives.
    It’s not too late for anyone to come to Christ for forgiveness while they are still alive. After that, according to the Bible, their chance is over.

    • Bob Martin

      2 Chronicles 7:14-16 speaks volumes when we all remember that God, our Creator, has told us all what we need to do to have His favor again through what He told Solomon son of King David.
      Each of us need to do what He said personally, as well as, collectively to receive His blessings and his salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.

  • P Marz

    As a Christian who used to be very judgmental as to who goes to Heaven and who goes to Hell I have learned over the years of serving the Lord that I am uniquely UN-qualified to make such a judgment. I can tell you what the Bible says and I can share what my beliefs are in respect to salvation from my sin which I do whenever the occasion arises,but I also know the God looks upon the heart of a person and Jesus His Son is the only One that can make such a judgment because that was given to Him by the Father. Only He knows what’s truly on a person’s heart at the moment of their death and because of His great love,mercy and grace,He is not willing for anyone to “perish” and I believe gives them until that very moment to repent and ask forgiveness even in their hearts. Only He,Jesus knows when or if a person will or has done this. I know all the arguments and reasoning’s that go with this and all the Scripture as well and have studied them for over 30 years now and believe what they say is true and a fact regardless of what we try to make them say. In my opinion.

    • cris

      That’s why he gave us Matthew 20….deathbed conversions are available to all…But the problem is you might not have that chance if you are killed in some sort of accident, etc..

      • P Marz

        Very true cris and I agree.The point I was making is not to put ourselves in that place of judgment. Rather I think we should share our experience(s) and say what the Bible says about salvation.God’s Word will do all the convicting and judging needed to lead a person to repentance. It is our responsibility to do this in love which I realize is not always easy but very,very necessary.

    • David

      The judgement we CAN make is that we should feel compassion for those that think they can get to heaven by just being a good person. Christ came for one purpose, to give us a way from going to hell, because he wants us to know his perfect love.
      Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

    • Jesus is God

      Hbr 9:22 ….and without the shedding of blood there can be no forgiveness.

      Hbr 10:18 And where these HAVE BEEN forgiven, there is no longer any sacrifice for sin.

      Jesus died once for all sin, he is not going to die again. Without a blood sacrifice there is no forgiveness for sin, therefore there is no more forgiveness to be had. If you are dead spiritually when you die physically then you perish. If you are alive spiritually, then you will never die.

      • P Marz

        Beyond the obvious,what’s your point? The point I was making in my initial comments is not to place ourselves in a position of judgment that rightfully belongs to Jesus and Him alone and in subsequent comments that we are to speak the truth in love.

        • Jesus is God

          My point is that you said we must repent and ASK FORGIVENESS. According to the bible there is no more forgiveness. All the forgiveness for sin took place at the cross where Jesus took away the sins of the world once and for all. That leaves only one sin to repent of, not believing in Jesus.

          John 16:8,9 When he comes, (the Holy Spirit), he will prove the world to be in the WRONG about sin and righteousness and judgement: about sin,because people DO NOT BELIEVE IN ME…..

          Not believing in Jesus is sin, according to Jesus. If you are going to be a believer in Jesus, then you need to believe what he said.

          • P Marz

            Again,my point is about people being judgmental and that we should not be,especially Christians. I was not initially speaking about sin and forgiveness and I agree with most of what you’ve written here and would’ve left it there but you have made one POINT which is not correct and I disagree with so I will address that POINT. First this;
            I am a Christian,I believe the Bible is the inerrant Word of God and strive to live according to His Word.I believe that Jesus is the Son of God and died for my sin,rose again and is seated at the right Hand of the Father. I have been and am still a student of His Word for over 30 years under some Godly,anointed men throughout these years. Here’s the issue I have, you say that people only need to be forgiven of their sin of not believing in Jesus and that there is no forgiveness beyond that. You back that thought with the scripture form Jn 16 vs 8,9. All well and good but to suggest that we don’t need to be forgiven our sin except to believe in Jesus is,to be kind,mistaken at best and flat out WRONG at worst. We are directed to ask for forgiveness (see Math.6:9-13,a.k.a.The Lord’s Prayer) as well as to confess our sin(see Ps.32:5,1st Jn.1:9-10)and to repent from them. I could go further into this but I won’t here. Suffice to say that while I am saved and forgiven of my sin and sealed by the Holy Spirit with a promise sin still resides in my flesh and there in lies the daily battle. It is also why I know it is only because of God’s most merciful grace that I am able to continue to live in this life and endeavor to be an example of His love,mercy and grace for my children and all whom I come in contact with.I hope this helps you. I don’t usually respond like this on/in these sites and forums but since I had the time this morning I thought it couldn’t hurt. Peace and God Bless.

          • Jesus is God

            You are correct when you point out that Matt 6:9-13 tells us to seek forgiveness, but read on Matt 6: 14-15 For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father WILL NOT FORGIVE YOUR SINS.

            That forgiveness is conditional and was before the cross of Jesus. At the cross, God reconciled the entire world to himself, not counting people’s sins against them. 2Cor 5:18,19

            The death of Jesus put into effect the will of God, the New Covenant), whereby God declares that he will remember our sins and lawless acts no more. Hbr 10:17

            After the cross, under the New Covenant, the forgiveness issue has changed. Eph 4:32 Be kind and compassionate with one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God FORGAVE you.

            God forgave you at the cross, it is no longer a matter of getting forgiveness based on the condition that you have to forgive others. Instead God tells us to forgive them just as God has forgiven, (past tense), you.

          • P Marz

            One final response,again, this whole discourse has gotten far away from my initial point. However, I’ll say this one last thing about forgiveness and sin. Mathew 6:12… “forgive us our debts(sin) AS we forgive our debtors(those who sin against us)”. This is a CONTINUAL and on going process. We don’t have to continue to ask forgiveness for past sin that we have truly repented of but we will continually need forgiveness as long as we live on in this world in the flesh. Thank God for the Blood of Christ which cleanses AND covers us.Otherwise we would not be able to come before Him and He would have to ‘look’ away just like when He,the father had to ‘look’ away from His Son,Jesus when all the sin of the world was paced upon Him while He was on that cross so many years ago.I do NOT believe in “once forgiven,always forgiven”. That is Calvinism and is not compatible with the entirety of Scripture.Peace,God Bless,I’m out!

          • Jesus is God

            If you do not believe that God has forgiven the sins of the world, means everyone, once and for all, then you do not believe in Jesus and remain condemned. Read the verses I cited and tell me that God DOES remember our sins and lawless acts. Tell me that God DOES count people’s sins against them.

            Hbr 10:29 How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?

          • P Marz

            Listen brother or sister,I am not judging you or even arguing with you. I am disagreeing with you. I know that past sin that Jesus forgives is forgotten and remembered no more but to say that I or any Christian should not continue to ask for forgiveness for present sin is wrong. I am aware enough to know that my sin is ever present before me in that while my spirit is willing my flesh is weak and if through that weakness I repeat sinful behavior I need to confess that,acknowledge my weakness and pray for strength to do better. Jesus knows better than anyone that I/we are not perfect and never will be until we are with Him in glory.Like I said before,thank God for His marvelous grace.I’m letting this go now. Peace to you and yours.

          • Jesus is God

            You are disagreeing with God. The bible is the word of God and it is truth.

            Hbr 9:25,26 Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But he has appeared ONCE for all at the culmination of the ages to DO AWAY WITH SIN by the sacrifice of himself.

            Jesus died for the forgiveness of sin once and is not going to do it again. Without the shedding of blood there is NO FORGIVENESS. To say that you must seek forgiveness over and over again is to say that Jesus failed to do what he came to do which was to DO AWAY WITH SIN.

            Continue to walk in unbelief in Jesus and you will perish.

          • P Marz

            OK, now you’re just being a judgmental jerk! I am NOT disagreeing with God or His Word. I AM disagreeing with YOU. This may be hard for you to hear but YOU are NOT God. Further more, it is Christians like you who cause others to turn away from Jesus altogether because of your my way or the highway,judgmental attitude. I was merely speaking the truth in love but you just can’t accept that and I would have left it there except for that last comment you made was personal and I have NO problem rebuking baby Christians when they spout off with half truths and errors. It doesn’t matter how long you have CALLED yourself Christian your are still an infant in your faith and understanding of the Scriptures. Fortunately, I have only met a handful of people like you over the past 30+ years. I pray that the Holy Spirit reveals to you the error in what you say and how you say it and that you would be humble enough to hear Him, repent and yes, ASK FOR FORGIVENESS! Peace to you and yours. Good Bye!

          • Jesus is God

            I am not making any judgements. Unlike you, I am accepting what the word of God says. I say it would not be “loving” to tell people things that are not true.
            I am not making any of this up, it is right there in the bible. You say the bible is not true, that is calling God a liar and you cannot be saved and call God a liar.
            God loves you and wants to save you but the only way is to believe in Jesus. How that would turn anyone away from salvation is beyond me.
            If you disagree with what I have said then demonstrate it with scripture. Everything I have said I have backed up with the word of God.

          • P Marz

            Just for the benefit of anyone else who may be reading this discourse I’ll respond one last time.
            WHERE the Bible is not true and the only inerrant Word of God? What words have I written that are throwing you off? Is it “inerrant”? That means there are NO errors and is wholly true. WHERE have I called God a liar? I quote Scripture only to explain what I say and point out which I have done if you were able to see anything beyond your own understanding. I have known many,too many, people how quote Scripture to “back up” what THEY say and too many times while being sincere they are sincerely wrong. You can wrench Scripture out of context and or twist the true meaning of what IT says. I do not feel I have to demonstrate anything to you as whole truth seems to be lost on you.

          • Jesus is God

            I quoted Hbr 9:25,26 to demonstrate that the bible says there is no more forgiveness available. This was in response to your poistion that you must seek forgiveness from God. Again, if God says He remembers your sins no more, and you say He does, that is calling God a liar.
            You have made 6 comments and only once have you quoted scripture. The fact of the matter is this, it does not matter what I say or what you say or what anyone else says, all that matters is what God says.

            Since you will not, or cannot, defend anything you have said with scripture I can only assume that you do not know the Word of God.

          • P Marz

            I noticed that you were a little more respectful when responding to Carmen A. Cantalupo who identified himself as a Pastor. I wonder if you would have been as respectful to me if I first told you that I, too, am a Pastor. I quoted Scripture throughout and within my comments. The fact that I did not give their reference does not mean they are not there. I can tell by your juvenile attempts to discredit what I have stated because I disagree with YOU not the Word of God. You are obviously young in your faith and not very mature at all concerning God’s Word and matters spiritual. You are a very judgmental person and THAT is what turns people away from Christ. It is not enough to just be able to quote Scripture to “back up” your position and prove yourself right,which you are not in this particular issue of once forgiven always forgiven. The folks over at WBC also quote Scripture to back up what they say and any fool knows there is no genuine love in their hearts when they do what they do. Love is over everything we can say or do. if we do not have love we are nothing, we become as a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.(see 1Cor.chpt.13 a.k.a.The Love Chapter) When you judge me for disagreeing with YOU are you doing so out of love or to satisfy some selfish need to attempt to prove yourself right? Think about that and stop being so judgmental.

          • Jesus is God

            I replied to Carmen once and he has said nothing to me. My responses to you have been based upon what you say. I quote scripture that is very clear and yet you say that it is not true. I don’t care if you are the Pope, if you say something that is wrong then it is wrong.

            So I ask you again, If God says that He remembers our sins no more, what does that mean?

          • P Marz

            The Word God means what It says,you however do not. You keep saying that I say the Bible isn’t true and yet any fool with even a limited ability to understand the English language can see that I have not and that I have emphatically stated otherwise. God forgive me for saying this but you are an argumentative,self righteous,judgmental fool and I will waste no more time responding to you on this or any issue.

          • Jesus is God

            So, once again you will not answer the question. As a child of God, God’s will is my will. If I believe I am speaking to someone that is error, I use the word of God to correct. I do not condemn them as a fool and tell them they are a waste of time.
            As a pastor, I would think that you would want to do God’s will, but then again, I don’t think you know the Lord.

    • Colleen Phillips

      Apparently Doug Giles considers himself qualified to judge -

      • P Marz

        I don’t know. Don’t know the man well enough to say either way. I hope for his own sake he knows better.

  • mellie

    Of course not. “Entertainment” gets no one into Heaven; saving our souls is what does that. That’s the reason God puts us on this earth; what we need to do is pray for those who need it – everyone.

  • 2Shadow2

    How could they go to hell when the were obviously already in it?

  • TXSoldier254

    The point is, is that the mainstream media is glorifying this man whom was a drug addict. In a sense, Hollywood and the media are judging Philip Seymour Hoffman to be good as they are putting him on a pedal still. We are all sinners and have to repent, however we do judge each others content of character. Philip Seymour Hoffman’s character was that of a drug addict whom ended his life with a needle in his arm, and left his children fatherless.

    • Colleen Phillips

      What is a “pedal still?” Please explain -

  • monacall

    These people do not live in the real world not until they die.

    • Colleen Phillips

      So it is when they die on this Earth that they live? Silly me! I thought life and death were mutually exclusive concepts in the literal sense – but then, I’ve heard that logic is vastly overrated.

      • Jesus is God

        Actually, death is simply the absence of life, which is the condition of all mankind until they cross over from death to life through their faith in Jesus Christ.

  • Evan White

    If you are a Christian why do you own a Cigar company??? Just wondering???? And why do you use the b word in your writing is not that blastphamie?

    • TRex

      Since when did cigars become sinful? And what is ‘blastphamie’? Giles also hunts. Is that evil? is it ‘blastphamie’? CSLewis, Chas. Spurgeon both smoked cigars. Are they ‘blastphamists’? Good luck with your temperance movement.

      • cris

        Cigars…not exactly respecting /treating God’s body like a temple

        • TRex

          Neither is being overweight.

          • MeanGene155

            Neither is being progressive, liberal, etc.

          • cris

            Eating is necessary for life….Smoking is not….Big difference

            (I will agree there are many Christians who are overweight which may border on gluttony)

          • Jesus is God

            They called Jesus a glutton and a drunkard, because he ate and drank.

    • cris

      Good questions I would like to see Doug answer….Love his site/writings

    • dmbunce

      Just because liberals say its bad doesn’t necessarily make it bad.

  • usmc1063

    It’s all meant to be a point of comfort for all who knew him. As for what he done in essence he was responsible for his own death. Which unto Gods law is considered a mortal sin IE: “Thou Shalt Not Kill”. That is a simple fact nothing more nothing less. Yet no one can know the Heart of God and if he forgave him at the time of his death. That is something we will find out when we are called home.

    • Warwagon

      Actually what God said was not Thou Shalt Not Kill, but Thou Shalt Not Shed Innocent Blood. This command got Israel in trouble and Judah later as well.
      You kill an intruder, that does not violate God’s command. You enter to rob and steal and kill, this does violate God’s command. If a soldier kills in war, the command has not been violated. The Centurion whom Peter was told to go to is one example of a soldier coming to salvation. Another example is the Centurion who asked Jesus to heal his servant.

      • usmc1063

        You Are correct in your statement. But taking ones own life is still a grievous sin. “Everyone is responsible for his life before God who has given it to
        him. It is God who remains the sovereign Master of life. We are obliged
        to accept life gratefully and preserve it for his honor and the
        salvation of our souls. We are stewards, not owners, of the life God has
        entrusted to us. It is not ours to dispose of.

        • Warwagon

          Every sin is grievous. Both murderers and liars share the same death. The liars death is not less then the murderers death.
          Sorry, but salvation is not for the soul, but the spirit of man. In death the body and soul of man is given to the ground, to the dust of the earth. But in death the spirit departs the body and also the world, returning heavenward. The spirit is our true selves in creation. The body is but an instrument through which God’s plan of salvation is given.
          The body is but a house. A temple. A place of dwelling. It is not the dweller, but place in which the dweller resides until that home is destroyed. In this case, by death.
          There two drugs men partake. One is that which is beneficial for the body. The other is beneficial for the psyche of man. The misuse of drugs is a furtherance of one’s rebellion against God. Some think that after betraying Christ that Judas remained under a state of salvation. But this is so wrong. One must examine the actions before and after Christ was turned over to the authorities and later death.

          • Jesus is God

            Judas was never saved, because salvation is crossing over from death to life and no one did so until the day of Pentecost, long after Judas had died.

  • sovereigntyofone

    What is a ” star “: a ball of white hot gas, that eventually implodes on it’s self.
    Just my 2 cents worth

  • LK

    I do believe that it would be impssible to escape from where the majority of them came from without receiving Jesus Christ.

  • Thomas Gladden Wilson

    Just a thought or two, one old anecdote from my parents generation, “The Pot calling the Kettle Black” resonate with anyone? In my own experience everyone has the potential to become “a good pharisee” (not saying your a member of that sect of Judaic persuasion but rather one could have the innate potential to become the most loathed of all partakers of the potent cocktail of religion read the christian-Judeo ethic) and that is a self-righteous hypocrite. the Son-of-Man in the Sermon-on-the-Mount enjoins us all to remove the speck of sawdust from our own eye (or the lumberyard) and then we will see clearly how to help our brethren to remove the beam from out of their own!

  • 820 REDHORSE

    Problem is, there’s still too many celebs polluting our nation ! Need to see more of’em head off into their “happy medium”!!!

    • Colleen Phillips

      Wishing people dead? How lovely, how Christlike of you!

      • Jesus is God

        Have you not read that when Jesus returns, it will not be to bear sin, but with a sword. He will destroy all of his enemies.

  • Steve Tanton

    Thank you Doug. My thoughts exactly…finally someone said it.

  • refuse2lose

    You don’t hear much about hell anymore because for one, most of our “churches” don’t even bring it up… they don’t talk about Revelation either.

    • Jesus is God

      That is why you shouldn’t rely on churches to teach, most do not know the truth. Read the bible yourself, and ask God to teach you.

  • Charles E Hoy

    I agree with the article. all these coroners reports coming back with, ‘Accidental’ heroin OD’ Well of Course it’s accidental!!!!, BUT, it doesn’t mean that anyone gets a Free Pass!!! That person has destroyed Themselves, and there’s an Express Train to Hell, waiting at the station. I had a nephew kill himself with an ‘Accidental’ OD. 38 yo. breaks my heart every time I think of him. A whole life wasted, for a couple hours of pleasure, that you don’t even remember. I’m a ‘Recovering’ Alcoholic, and will be for the rest of my life, but I love the fact that when I wake up in the morning now, at least I know what I did yesterday. It’s becoming a pretty sad world we live in today, because no one wants to put ‘Limits’, on what we can or cannot do, ergo, no Responsibility, which will be the downfall of our country.

    • CapeConservative

      Exactly! Personal responsibility is nowhere to be found these days. There is always some excuse to give a pass for one’s wrongheaded decisions.

  • rubiws

    I agree, but in the end, its between God and him. They get away with hero status because Americans give it to them. A homeless vet falls and a superstar falls, which one does the crowd run to help? Which one will the camera think are better? Its news when Americans make it news.

    • CapeConservative

      It’s news when THE MEDIA make it news. We law-abiding Americans have absolutely NO say in the matter.

  • Warwagon

    Why do we assume one goes to heaven and another to hell. Why is it that only a few of the scriptures are used to formulate a doctrine, particularly of hell. The result of sin is death. Pure and simple. No eternal torment in a fiery place, but death in the lake of fire. Examine the scriptures. Christ spoke of there being two deaths. We know of the first as all of us feel its sting. But not all are given to a second death. The first death is sorely for the flesh of man. The second death is for the spirit of man.
    Examine the scriptures. In death the body and soul of man is given to the ground. It is the spirit of man that rises from the body and return before God. Christ spoke of a beggar named Lazarus and a rich man. If you are familiar with that which Christ spoke, both died and both returned. Lazarus is the picture of the saved, while the rich man is the picture of the unsaved.
    Where do you think the separation of the wheat and tares are made, the separation of the sheep and the goats are made. It is not here, but upon the return of each in death.
    Christ is Spirit and and such is God. God became flesh to fulfill the promise of salvation. Which by the way was given before the world. Who then was given the promise. Those in need, or those who had no need.
    Hell is the lake of fire. The lake of fire is that which the judged are cast. Death is the result of the judgment. Should the unsaved also be participants in eternal life as the saved have been promised. Surely not.
    Examine the scriptures.

    • Thomas Gladden Wilson

      The doctrine of Heaven, Purgatory, and Hell are byproducts of the “Christian” faith as was dissimenated by the Roman Catholic Church which throughout it’s history was notorious for canonizing pagan superstition as part of it’s dogma and doctrine. The College of Cardinals canonized the works of Dante Allegheri “La Dvina Comedia” also known as “Dante’s Inferno” into what is commonly accepted as Christian Doctrine of Heaven and Hell today!

      • Warwagon

        Yea, and the Protestant churches teach the same or similar doctrine. But is is not scriptural. Read Ecclesiastes for starters.
        Christ spoke of a second death. Death is to be absent of life. As I said the first death is known throughout the world and we are witness to it. But there is another death. The body is not resurrected to be given to a second death. The second death is reserved for the spirit. Yes, there is a spirit within all men, it is the light. It is the flesh of man that resists the spirit and which struggles daily, as Christ spoke of.
        Why, do you not know that in spirit, you were before the formation of the world. That you and every one born into the world are given to it that you can have reconciliation with God. The God whom all born into the world rebelled against, thus bringing God to create the physical. That without the physical the spiritual cannot be given salvation. That salvation is not for the flesh of man, but the spirit of man. That salvation cannot be given except through the flesh. This is why we have become flesh and God became flesh.

      • MeanGene155

        Au contraire.

        • Thomas Gladden Wilson

          au contraire …. quoi? Vous ne parvenez pas à réfuter une chose et ne représentent qu’un superficielle

          la connaissance du français, le Fils de l’homme était juif et enseigné à partir de ce qui existe

          Écritures de son époque qui où le Tanakh, qui signifie La loi, la

          Prophètes et les Ecrits, regardez tout ce que vous osez et vous ne serez pas prouver quoi que ce soit

          de la vie éternelle qui vous confirmer!

  • DaCoachK

    It is the Left that is creating the news stories, so,of course, there are no words about sin or the devil. First, the Left is Godless, like Ann Coulter wrote about. Secondly, the Left believes being judgmental IS THE WORST thing in the world to be. They are immoral people who think it is perfectly okay to do all those vile things you mentioned. Look at their stance on homosexuality, a disgusting and filthy existence. The Left loves homosexuality and praises it every chance they get.

    • sandraleesmith46

      The left isn’t godless, they actually have MANY gods: wealth, fame, beauty, power… to name a few. What they do NOT have, and fervently reject is THE God, Creator of all things, including themselves. They prefer hedonism, narcissism, and,ultimately, the deceits of Satan. God allows each of us free choice, and He will not cross that, even to save our very souls, or the lives of innocents those choices may cause to be harmed.

    • cris

      “Secondly, the Left believes being judgmental IS THE WORST thing in the world to be….”

      All while judging conservatives with diligent fervor!

    • Colleen Phillips

      So, it’s okay for the almighty Right to pass judgment on “immoral people?” I thought that was supposed to be God’s job, not yours -

      • DaCoachK

        Yes. You people are heathens, and it is up to us to try and bring to the right side of things. Left to your own devices, you do what you do: celebrate homos, do tons of drugs, abort your children, steal from the productive, and leech off those that do. Glad to help.

  • Lawrence Behr

    I do not feel sorry for the guy, you have all the fame, creature comforts, the many things that most in this world will never know or have and you die of a heroin overdose??? “he was a giant actor” WTF he is a drug addict, a loser, a rich loser that is missing the one thing money cannot buy…. a personal relationship with GOD.
    You might not agree with me and that is ok but when you grow up you must accept whatever happens in your life and not hide in a bottle or high on pot or even zoned out on heroin until your problems seemingly go away…they will be there waiting for you to deal with, he might have been a good actor but as a human being he missed the cut.

    • Colleen Phillips

      Would that you are judged with the same measure of mercy as you’ve afforded Phillip Seymour Hoffman. Your “personal relationship with God” seems to be insufficient to keep you from judging Hoffman and declaring that “he missed the cut.” Not your job, my flawed and sinful friend. Arrogant much?

  • John Hand

    Well written. I guess Hoffman was a great actor, because he had me fooled. I saw him in BOOGIE NIGHTS, and of course in CAPOTE, and I, all these years thought he was actually gay. Then, after his death out comes this attractive wife and the two or three kids, and he was straight? He had a family to hold him together and still, the drugs got him. Truly tragic. Sometimes you hear of an actor dying from an overdose and his/her career was on the skids, but Hoffman was on top, had several movie roles pending. So it would seem that drugs have no preferences, drugs take everyone. Some of us are very fortunate, life itself is high enough. If we have the God of Jesus Christ, so much the better.

  • bluealiendevil

    I think the same thing with the one’s who commit suicide. They make these stars out like angels also. aka Monteith

  • Syl

    I am glad I am not the judge. If I were, no one would make it to heaven. I see devilish faults in everyone. I thank God that He looks past our faults and sees our need and rescues those who will accept His gift of salvation. I don’t know about this particular guy’s earthly baggage. I hope he was saved in spite of it. Personal friends might know more.

  • rayperry4@aol.com

    I do not claim to know if this man was among the redeemd or not, but it seems unlikely and has NOTHING to do with him ‘entertaining us’.

    • sandman

      Entertainment has no redeeming qualities, only helping those who need it, or loving those in need of love are truly redeeming qualities!

  • NoRINO

    Hollywood people should go “entertaining” Lucifer.

  • 124andmore

    Doug, you seem to be very certain of some things that can’t be proven. One thing we can be certain of is that Philip Seymour Hoffman is very dead, and I don’t think he’s going anywhere. I don’t know much about addiction because I’ve never been an addict. However, I doubt if he wanted to die. He was too weak to overcome his addiction, and it killed him. Maybe his death will scare some people enough that they never try heroin. Maybe it won’t. Life goes on.

    • Jesus is God

      Hbr 11:1 Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see.

      We are saved by grace through faith.

      • 124andmore

        If that’s what you believe, it’s OK with me.

        • Jesus is God

          Hbr 11:6 And without faith it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God….

          • 124andmore

            Really? Don’t you think that’s somewhat unGodlike?

          • Jesus is God

            That is exactly God like, because it is describing God from the Bible.
            However, it does reveal your condition, that you do not believe in God.

          • 124andmore

            I don’t believe in the Easter Bunny either.

          • Jesus is God

            Yeah, but the Easter Bunny can’t save you from destruction.

          • 124andmore

            Here comes Peter Cottontail, hoppin down the bunny trail…..

          • Jesus is God

            God has provided a way for all to be saved. If you reject that salvation, that is your will, not God’s.
            God loves you and does not want you to perish, but perish you will if you continue to reject Jesus.

    • Colleen Phillips

      Finally! Someone who does speak truth and actually deals in facts. Logic and common sense lives! Thank you -

      • 124andmore

        Thank you, Colleen. The fear of death is what fuels religious belief. I wish I could believe that there is a heaven, but common sense and the total absence of evidence won’t allow me.

        • Jesus is God

          Hbr 2:14,15 Since the children have flesh and blood,he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might break the power of him who holds the power of death-that is, the devil- and free those who all their lives were held in slavery to the fear of death.

          So, you see, born again children if God do not fear death because we know that we will never die.

          • 124andmore

            JiG: If you think that makes sense, and you want to believe it, it’s OK with me.

          • Jesus is God

            It makes perfect sense. People are afraid to die, God became a man so that he could die and then be raised from the dead breaking the power of death.
            Now, anyone that has received Christ is no longer subject to the power of death, thus , we no longer fear death.

            Do you not see the sense of that?

          • 124andmore

            If that is true, why aren’t more “born again children of God” sky divers, cave divers, alligator wrestlers, race car drivers, bomb squad members, and bouncers in biker bars?

          • Jesus is God

            You don’t understand, death is the absence of life. It is God’s spirit that gives life. The man without God’s spirit is dead already, To be saved means God’s spirit has come to dwell in you making you alive.
            As for you examples, how do you know there aren’t?

          • 124andmore

            I just checked my pulse, and I’m not dead yet.

          • Jesus is God

            A man is made up of three parts, body, soul and spirit. The soul is the mind thoughts will and emotions, it is what makes an individual who they are. The body is just a container where that soul lives. When somebody is brain dead, they are called a vegetable because, like the vegetable, their body is alive, but their soul has departed. The same is true of the spirit, even though your body is physically alive, your spirit is dead.

            John 6:63 It is the Spirit that gives life; the flesh counts for nothing.

            These are the words of Jesus proclaiming that if you do not have the Spirit of God living in you, then you are dead. You do not believe because you do not have the Spirit.

            1Cor 2:14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned through the Spirit.

        • Colleen Phillips

          For over 20 years of my adult life, I studied the Bible and thought I had sufficient evidence on which to base my faith, and then a combination of factors led me to ask some very hard questions that Christianity couldn’t answer. Like you, I really wish I could believe, because it would be a tremendous comfort to believe that “all things work together for good,” and that everything happens for a reason according to some sort of Master Plan. I would love to believe that this isn’t all there is, and that my deceased loved ones are waiting for me in Heaven, happy and healthy and whole. Wouldn’t that be something?! Fear of death does fuel religious belief, as well as fear of eternal torment in a perpetually burning Hell. I think there’s way more of Salvation by Fear of Hell rather than Salvation by Faith in Christ.

          • 124andmore

            Very well said.

  • WES

    I’m sure you don’t go to heaven because of your acting ability and I do feel there is a hell but where this man went is up to the good Lord. The Bible says judge not lest ye be judged

    • MeanGene155

      Of course, as usual, you took scripture out of context.

    • cris

      The only scripture simpletons of this era can quote….It used to be John 3:16…..How far we have fallen

  • HollandArc

    It is better to live as if there is a God and find out there isn’t than to live as if there isn’t a God and find out there is.

    • hellohello

      Then believing in god is irrelevant. If you simply believe god out of fear then what’s the point.

  • hijalibre

    Doug, I may agree with what you say, but it is comments like yours that give conservatives the reputation of being HATERS. This is a time to be sensitive to those who loved this actor, not pontificate about how he deserves hell. If you want to use Scripture, doesn’t the Bible say, “Weep with those who weep, mourn with those who mourn”?

    • sandraleesmith46

      In one sense, I see your point, but in another Doug is correct. It ISsad for the chidren who lost their father, and other kin. But as a former addict like Doug says he is, or anyone who has dealt with addicts as medical professionals, as I have done, knows, this is often a teachable time in the lives of those who may well be following his same path in life, and need to realize there isn’t a “peace” or “happy” ending to such a life; that those choices, whether he intended to die at this time or not, put him in direct opposition to God’s Word and laws, and God is JUST, as well as merciful; both must be satisfied, so when His mercy is snubbed and rejected, all that’s left IS His judgment, which is what such choices lead to, regardless of what the world thinks of the deceased individual. It’s not particularly kind to allow them to believe fairy tales that are not born out in fact, with respect to what God accepts, or doesn’t. Especially if they ARE heading to the same horrible destination. It could well be THEIR last chance to hear that truth too! None of us knows when our last brrath may come, even children!

    • bodica

      And for those who are ‘excommunicated’ from the industry because we will not deny our Faith, Hoffman becomes a symbol of the industry itself – dying with a ‘needle’ in its arm, infected with drugs and secularism, producing clone after clone of previously done scripts but with the s and v and ‘darkness’ amped up to unwatchable proportions.
      He was playing a dark character – Heath Ledger o’d’d while playing a dark character – having previously compromised his personal integrity in Broke Back Mountain…Hollywood thrives on and is titillated by CORRUPTIOn…

    • Jesus is God

      We don’t send anyone to hell, they send themselves. God’s will is that not one of us perish, but that all of us are saved from that fate. It seems to me that not warning people of that fate is real HATRED. why do you hate them so much?

  • Busdriver Bill

    Last time I checked, God forgave us before the foolishness. “I know that my redeemer liveth.”

    I say a prayer for Phil Hoffman, that he finds his own redemption, as I know him to be forgiven.

    • cris

      “…that he finds his own redemption” Too late

    • Bulldog74

      IF Phil Hoffman came to his senses in his last moments of life, and God granted him a last few seconds of consciousness to realize what he’d done, repent of it, and call on the name of the Lord to be saved, then he’s sitting at the feet of Jesus right now. Same goes for anyone who’s ever lived.

  • Sylvester Jones

    Only if they were Born Again Christians before they died.

    • Warwagon

      What does it mean to be born again to you. What you understand on your own accord and not what the churches tell you.
      To be born again is not truly to be baptized by spirit and water according to the teaching.
      To be born again is to be born of water and spirit. If you understand what preceded salvation and the purpose of it, a picture will formulate of what was meant of those words Christ spoke to Nicodemus.
      First, you were born (given life) before the world. You were created as the angels. And no, you didn’t have wings. Because the angels are spiritual in their creation, you also were made spiritual. Ah, but something happened that brought you down, caused you to fall, as so many others also fell. It is word more common and one of the oldest and its name is REBELLION.
      You must be born of water and spirit. This is where you are born spirit. Now what lay within the womb you are forming, A water sac. Now you are being born of water.
      But not every son who rebelled is born of water. Satan and the third of the host will not be born of water as many others have and will be. They are beyond salvation because for salvation to do its work one must become born of the flesh of man.
      I could go on, but then it would take up too much space. But I will tell you this. Your current belief and understanding of hell is in error. If you believe along the line of that taught within the churches.
      But what is a church. What is a temple. Are they not one and the same. Are they made of stone, wood and iron, or are they made of flesh, blood and bone. For the churches have fallen away from the truth. This is the falling away Christ forewarned. If they have not fallen away, do they all teach the same doctrines from one to another. No, they do not. They are divided. Can it then said that the church is a house divided.
      Both Jeremiah and John were told that before they formed in the womb that God knew them. God knew them because God made them and made them as all were made. Spirit. Neither sin nor repentance is nothing new. Only to this world. Sin and repentance also preceded the world as you and I preceded the world.
      The body of man was made for salvation’s purpose. Salvation is not given to the body, but to the spirit through the body. For this, we who were guilty of rebellion were deserving of death. But God did not desire that any should perish.

      • Michael

        Man was made in the image of God, not angels.

        • Warwagon

          The word of God is likened to a table. On the table are many foodstuffs, Why pick one morsel from the many and feed upon it, leaving the remainder unconsumed.
          God made many creatures, many beasts. Man is solely the one creation bearing the image and likeness of God.
          Who appeared before Abraham. Was it not God and two angels. Did God not speak to Moses declaring, I Am that I Am. Was Christ not God manifest in the flesh of man.
          What is the body. Is it not a place of dwelling wherein the spirit resides in the hope of reconciliation through the salvation of God. Can salvation be given and received without the body. But which is recipient of that salvation. The body or the spirit which dwells within that body.
          In death, am I to go back to the earth to await the resurrection and until then am no more but dust. Or is there more that I should know. That which is given through scripture and not through the churches. Has there not already come a falling away.
          Has any man laid eyes on an angel. Surely Abraham did. Surely Daniel did also. Do angels change appearance as some shapeshifter. Do all angels appear the same as if a man stood before many mirrors and peered at his many images reflected. Is one angel unique in creation from another as one man is unique from another.
          According to Daniel, he was led captive to Babylon the third year of King Jehoiakim. Jehoiakim reigned for 11 years. When then did Daniel refer. The third or eleventh year.
          The Bible is easily read and understood. This is what too many have come to think and too believe. Yet the opposite is quite true.

      • Sylvester Jones

        Your delusional.

      • Sylvester Jones

        Your spiritually dead and don’t understand God’s Inspired Word to Humanity, the Bible.

        • Warwaagon

          Perhaps in your eyes and perception I am delusional and spiritually dead.
          Tell me this. That which you know, how has it been given to you. By God or by man.
          If I am beyond understanding, let me ask this one simple question of you.
          Daniel wrote the time that he was taken captive to Babylon. He wrote that it was the third year of Jehoiakim, King of Judah. Jehoiskim reigned 11 years. At which time during this reign did Daniel refer.
          If you cannot answer this simple question, how then can you know the more deep things.

          • Sylvester Jones

            The bible tells me the Holy Spirit will teach me all truths.

          • Warwagon

            Can’t answer so simple a question by one who is fed from the the hand of God and not the hand of man. After all when you are dependent of the Holy Spirit, you are dependent of eating fro the hand of God rather than man.
            In any case the answer is the 11th year.

          • Sylvester Jones

            Your a moron, spiritually dead.

        • Warwagon

          If the question of Daniel and the time of his captivity is too difficult, then answer this.
          The promise of salvation was given before the foundation of the world. To whom was that promise given.

          • Sylvester Jones

            To God’s Elect.

          • Warwagon

            And who are the elect. And when were the elect told this.
            Why Sylvester, are really that far removed from the Pharisees that you make accusation as to the spirituality of another.
            The elect were before the world. God did not give his promise to one, or any who were to come, but were not. But to the fallen.
            God knows who the elect are. God knows who are his and who are not.
            Now, if the elect were before the world, who then were they. For surely the words of the promise of God did not fall on deaf ears. Nor to ears of them not needing a pathway back before God.
            Of that which you know. Who has fed you, God or man. If you say man, through God’s word that is not sufficient an answer. For there are many men, who as shepherds, do not teach the truth, but what seems to be the truth. They have iron in their possession, but prefer clay. But you having the Holy Spirit know this already.
            To one who is delusional and dead in the spirit, where can I find the church that is not the Mother of Whores, nor one of the many Daughters of the Mother Whore. Oh, I used the word whore. And it may have offended you. Let me say then. Harlot. Does not the Mother and also the Daughters display the mark and sign of the Beast.
            The feet of the statue in Nebuchadnezzar;s dream, having ten toes and made of mixed iron and clay was and is and will remain until the end of things.
            Why do you beat another with a slat removed from a pulpit and pummel another all the while shouting praise to God.
            If an angel were to appear before you this day, you would not know. If he were to say something outside your comfort zone of knowledge and wisdom, you would do to him what you would no to another who speaks outside your zone.
            Examine yourself, examine your own teachings, you own beliefs before thrashing another with the whip of self pride.

          • Sylvester Jones

            Your spiritually dead.

          • Sylvester Jones

            Quit talking out of your rectum, you delusional fool.

  • Thomas Sharp

    Speaking the TRUTH is indeed love. Thank you Mr Giles for your commitment to both.
    Just because one doesn’t like the facts, does not change the fact, regardless of the liberal fairy dust that gets blown in the direction of the gullible masses.

    It is sad when someone passes in an embarrassing manner indulging in selfishness that brings shame on their entire body of work. Sadder yet, when a hero is forgotten by these same fairy dust addicted morons because the only source of information they choose is the biased liberal mouthpiece that is the Old Liberal Media of today.
    Wake up people, the wolves are at the door.
    Time for the sheepdogs to kill the wolves, and protect the flock. Even the gullible fools that keep opening the door and letting the wolves inside.
    Thanks for keeping it real Doug.

    • Colleen Phillips

      Facts? Sheepdogs? Wolves? Door? Flock? Perchance the fairy dust is coming from your general direction?

  • David Taylor

    Several things, Doug. You do entertain, and you cause justly thought, but who hasn’t lied about the Dearly Departed? We lie about someone to cope, and that’s what the community that just lost Hoffman is doing. This person, this actor, is in God’s hands, and while we should speak about what happens if one does not embrace the Salvation Jesus Christ has offered us, judging the individual is God’s domain. Speculating about where Hoffman ended up borders on gossip. Remember, Great minds talk about concepts, average minds talk about events, small minds talk about each other.

    Second, we’re talking the Hollywood crowd. The overwhelming majority have stridently renounced Jesus and the concept of God. Mention Jesus and they groan with disgust. Rubber Science and Mother Gaia is the closest thing you’re going to get to faith in that sub-culture. Hindus in India know more about Jesus’ life than this bunch. While you might have a platform to preach to them, I believe you would do better to point to the death of a relatively young man and ask them if they honestly believe if this is all there is. Hoffman had success, had a wife, kids, but something was missing, something so deep he filled it with a needle in his arm. Could he have filled it with faith?

    • sandman

      You can bet he did fill his life with Faith now!

  • Harry Rainey Jr.

    The second they die, their spirit passes from one dimension into another, its a one way trip. Are they in Heaven or Hell, I don’t know, it is not my place to judge. Everyone will die one day, question is When. Then you will stand before your Creator and they will replay your entire life from birth to death whether you died with a needle in your vein, a gun in your mouth or 5 pounds of TNT strapped to your chest or from natural causes. And God’s finger will be on the button that sends you to Heaven’s Reward or to Eternal Damnation into the Lake of Fire. There will be no appeal. Even those who claim they are born again may find out the real truth. Your lives are merely a puff of smoke.

    • Colleen Phillips

      God’s finger on the button – that’s an interesting visual. Or maybe it’s like a thumbs up or thumbs down like in the Roman Colisseum. Or how about “Get the hook,” like on the Vaudeville stage? So you’re up there without a defense attorney? What happened to your Advocate, Jesus? And replay your whole entire life, for 70 or 80 years? Sitting in court all day is near enough to an eternity, isn’t it? Are you claiming that Jesus died for puffs of smoke? You have a very creative concept of final Judgment, I will credit you that -

  • Defend The Constitution

    Since moral standards, customs, and traditions form the basis of our liberty and prosperity, their destruction undermines the civilized culture that has evolved upon them.

  • sadnana

    I really enjoyed his work. There was just something about him that translated to the screen and made all his roles special. It’s so sad that his gift, apparently, didn’t give him enough joy and satisfaction to compete with heroin. He appeared to have everything but was in reality a pauper in the most basic sense.

    • Amfer Ferg

      He was an ‘addict’…..very sick. I choose to believe he couldn’t fight and win. I also believe God does not condemn those who die from illness whether it or not it was accidental. Our God is a forgiving God – and loves us.

      • sadnana

        I agree that he couldn’t fight and win his battle with addiction in his own strength. I think it takes a power outside of ourselves to overcome addiction and many addicts have done that with God’s help. And I also agree that God doesn’t condemn anyone who dies from illness. No matter what causes our death we go to heaven or hell based on whether or not our sins are forgiven. 1st John 1: 19 says: If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

  • Tweety58

    Satan convinced people he doesn’t exist.People do not believe in sin nor it’s consequences.Who are America’s Royalty ? Archbishop Chaput,Billy Graham Sr.Pro-lifers who endure insult,beatings and Martyrdom ?

    Catholic and non-Catholic Christians who see the world through Christian eyes and imitate Christ out of Faith.Those brave unsung souls who are the Voice,Hands,and Face of Christ to the poor,helpless,sick and hurting ?

    No-it’s the AMORAL Patricians of Hellywood ,the music industry and television,who fornicate,drug,sexualize our children,create Satanic Golden Calfs for the credulous to worship.Not to mention Caesar who hates Christians.You’ll find Caesar in EVERY government especially the Presidency.I bow to no Caesar but I prostrate myself before Christ.I am a poor sinner but am AWARE of that.These people like Adam,Eve and Lucifer want to be GOD.

    Pride was the Original Sin and those guilty of that sin which leads to all other sin will be brought down low.

    Nancy Pelosi,Biden,Sebelius,Boxer all claim Catholicity but they do not remotely resemble the good people I go to Mass with and obey The Word-Christ-they are complicit in the murder of MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of innocent babies in the most dangerous,once the safest,place in the world,THE WOMB.They have the blood of Slaughtered Innocents on their hands and those Innocents cry out to Heaven for JUSTICE.

    Matthew 7:13-14 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

    There is a chastisement coming and the rain will fall on the good as well as the evil.

    I welcome it.

    • bodica

      But He will separate the wheat from the chaff…

      • Tweety58

        Luke 16:19-31

        New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)

        The Rich Man and Lazarus

        19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day.

        20 And at his gate lay a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores,

        21 who longed to satisfy his hunger with what fell from the rich man’s table; even the dogs would come and lick his sores. The poor man died and was carried away by the angels to be with Abraham.[a] The rich man also died and was buried.

        23 In Hades, where he was being tormented, he looked up and saw Abraham far away with Lazarus by his side.[b]

        24 He called out, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am in agony in these flames.’

        25 But Abraham said, ‘Child, remember that during your lifetime you received your good things, and Lazarus in like manner evil things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in agony.

        26 Besides all this, between you and us a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who might want to pass from here to you cannot do so, and no one can cross from there to us.’

        27 He said, ‘Then, father, I beg you to send him to my father’s house— 28 for I have five brothers—that he may warn them, so that they will not also come into this place of torment.’

        29 Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; they should listen to them.’ 30 He said, ‘No, father Abraham; but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ 31 He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the prophets, neither will they be convinced EVEN IF SOMEONE RISES FROM THE DEAD.’

        • Colleen Phillips

          I’m not sure what your point is, but you might want to study before you throw Bible verses. Hades = the grave. This story is a parable and not intended to be taken literally. If there is such a great “chasm,” how is it that Lazarus can see the other side, and even have conversations Abraham from Hell? And indeed, if it were true that if people won’t listen to Moses and the Prophets, and would not be convinced if one should rise from the dead, then what would be the point of having Jesus come and rise from the dead? According to Abraham, it would be pointless. Parables are not true stories; they are fables that teach a spiritual lesson. Quoting Bible verses does not give you a pass to throw all logic and common sense to the wind.

          • Tweety58

            “Quoting Bible verses does not give you a pass to throw all logic and common sense to the wind.”

            Really…if you’ll read further ALL will be explained as it seems you are rather illiterate when it comes to Holy Scripture and Exegesis by trained Theologans whose company you are not within.

            The point is that most who are living their heaven on earth will not heed ANY warning over their PROBABLE destiny.

            A ll parables in the Bible are True Illustrations of the Teachings of Jesus Christ.They are NOT meaningless fables but object lessons of Divine Truth.

            Ignore them at your peril.

            BTW Hades does NOT= the grave.

            Read THIS-you won’t…….but it explains the “chasm”,that you cannot comprehend.And yes(sigh) it’s cut and pasted because it supercedes my ability to articulate an explanation that you MAY POSSIBLY understand:

            “Hell is not a pleasant topic. Today many preachers (Catholic and non-Catholic) seem to be silent about it. Some Catholics and other Christians—including entire Christian denominations—even deny that hell is real or, short of that, deny its eternal nature. Many ask, “Why would a good God create such place?” and “Would God really damn anyone forever?” An initial look at Scripture might seem to support the denial of such a place or the fact of its eternity.

            In the Revised Standard Version of the Bible the word hell appears only thirteen times (Matt. 5:22, 29, 30; 10:28; 18:9; 23:15, 33; Mark 9:43, 45, 47; Luke 12:5; Jas. 3:6; 2 Pet. 2:4). When we consider that three of those occurrences (Matt. 5:29, 30; Matt. 10:28) are arguably repeated in parallel passages within the synoptic gospels (Mark 9:47, 43; Luke 12:5), the word is used only ten times. Among those ten, multiple uses of the word within individual passages (Matt. 23; Mark 9) bring the total number of times the word occurs in separate instances down to seven. Hell would hardly seem, therefore, to be a major theme in Scripture.

            As a result, many Christians today rationalize that teaching about hell is unimportant. But, if we take a closer look at the concept of hell in Scripture and trace its development through history, we find that it is indeed a major theme, which would be foolish to ignore.

            Our Choice, Not God’s

            Let’s start by defining what Catholics mean by hell. The Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) offers the following explanation:

            We cannot be united with God unless we freely choose to love him. But we cannot love God if we sin gravely against him, against our neighbor or against ourselves . . . To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God’s merciful love means remaining separated from him forever by our own free choice. This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called “hell.” (CCC 1033)

            This definition presumes what Christians—indeed, most anyone who believes in God—agree on: that the true life and happiness for which we were created can be found only in God’s presence. Separation from God means the loss of that life and happiness and thus results in suffering. This is one reason why hell is always depicted as a place of torment.

            But we must understand that hell is a choice. To experience hell, one must die in the freely chosen state of mortal sin. The Catechismexplains that mortal sin is “sin whose object is grave matter and which is also committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent” (CCC 1857). Such an act is contrary to the love we owe God so, in essence, the state of mortal sin is the freely chosen state of not loving God. If one dies in such a state, God honors that choice and allows such a soul to remain separated from him.

            God did not create hell so much as he allowed for its possibility. By permitting us to love him freely—or not—he allows for the possibility that we will choose to separate ourselves from him. But God does not will this for anyone. The Catechism states,

            God predestines no one to go to hell; for this, a willful turning away from God (a mortal sin) is necessary, and persistence in it until the end. In the Eucharistic liturgy and in the daily prayers of her faithful, the Church implores the mercy of God, who does not want any to perish, but all to come to repentance. (CCC 1037)

            A final point before we continue: Hell is indeed eternal because the soul’s state at death determines its state for eternity. If person dies in the state of mortal sin, God honors that choice forever. The Catechismexplains, “If it is not redeemed by repentance and God’s forgiveness, [mortal sin] causes exclusion from Christ’s kingdom and the eternal death of hell, for our freedom has the power to make choices forever, with no turning back” (CCC 1861).

            To sum up,

            Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, “eternal fire.” The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs. (CCC 1035)

            Now that we’ve examined the Catholic understanding of hell, let’s take a look at how this understanding developed over time.

            A Brief History of the Afterlife

            Before Jesus’ time it seems that God had not yet clearly revealed much about hell.

            Even so, evidence shows that at least some Jews believed in an eternal afterlife which was good for some, bad for others. For example, Daniel records, “Many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt” (Dan. 12:2).

            The Hebrew word Sheol and the Greek word Hades were often used by the Jews to refer in general to “the abode of the dead.” These words are sometimes loosely translated into English as “hell” (e.g., in the King James Version of the Bible), however, in these instances, the word may refer to either the abode of the damned or the abode of the just, or it may broadly refer to both. Similarly, the Greek words Phulake andParadaiso may be translated as “hell.”

            Jesus’ parable of the rich man and Lazarus helps us to understand this better as it gives us insight into the afterlife as it was understood in Jesus’ time:

            There was a rich man, who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. And at his gate lay a poor man named Lazarus, full of sores, who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man’s table; moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried; and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes, and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus in his bosom. And he called out, “Father Abraham, have mercy upon me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am in anguish in this flame.” But Abraham said, “Son, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and Lazarus in like manner evil things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.” And he said, “Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father’s house, for I have five brothers, so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.” But Abraham said, “They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.” And he said, “No, father Abraham; but if some one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.” He said to him, “If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be convinced if some one should rise from the dead.” (Luke 16:19-31)

            From this parable it seems that all who died prior to Jesus’ Resurrection went to “hell” (Hades); however, the just went to a particular part of hell referred to as “Abraham’s bosom” where they would be comforted until the gates of heaven were opened while the damned went to a place of torment. A great chasm separated these two parts of hell and no one in either part was in heaven.

            The Catechism explains,

            Scripture calls the abode of the dead, to which the dead Christ went down, “hell”— Sheol in Hebrew or Hades in Greek—because those who are there are deprived of the vision of God. Such is the case for all the dead, whether evil or righteous, while they await the Redeemer: which does not mean that their lot is identical. (CCC 633)

            A good example of this general rendering of the word “hell” is found in the Apostles’ Creed which states that, after Jesus’ crucifixion and death, “he descended into hell.” How are we to understand this?

            He Descended into Hell

            St. Peter tells us that Jesus “went and preached to the spirits in prison” (1 Pet. 3:19). “Prison” (Greek, Phulake) here refers to hell in the general sense of the place where departed souls rested prior to Jesus’ opening the gates of heaven. The Catechism explains that “he descended there as Savior, proclaiming the Good News to the spirits imprisoned there” (CCC 632).

            After his death Jesus descended into hell to deliver the righteous who awaited him. The Catechism explains,

            The frequent New Testament affirmations that Jesus was “raised from the dead” presuppose that the crucified one sojourned in the realm of the dead prior to his Resurrection. This was the first meaning given in the apostolic preaching to Christ’s descent into hell: that Jesus, like all men, experienced death and in his soul joined the others in the realm of the dead. But he descended there as Savior, proclaiming the Good News to the spirits imprisoned there . . . It is precisely these holy souls, who awaited their Savior in Abraham’s bosom, whom Christ the Lord delivered when he descended into hell. Jesus did not descend into hell to deliver the damned, nor to destroy the hell of damnation, but to free the just who had gone before him. (CCC 632-633)

            I should also note here that “Abraham’s Bosom” was sometimes referred to by the Jews as “Paradise” (Greek, Paradaiso). This might explain why Jesus told St. Dismas, the good thief, “you will be with me in Paradise” (Luke 23:43). A Catholic Commentary on Holy Scripture explains, “‘Paradise’ . . . signified for the Jews the abode of the blessed. Here, if taken literally in its context, it signifies primarily the limbo of the just, to which Christ’s soul was presently to descend” (968).

            So the word hell can be understood and used in a variety of senses. We also can see how our understanding of the concept of hell has developed over time.”

            Do ya get it now ?

          • Jesus is God

            The point is not that no one will believe even if someone rises from the dead, it is that there are those who will not believe no matter what.

            Matt 7:13,14 Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the path that leads to destruction, and MANY WILL ENTER THROUGH IT. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few will find it.

          • Colleen Phillips

            Interesting that you would bring up this reference. I had a conversation with a pastor once who preached that it is easier to be saved than it is to be lost. I gave him Matthew 7:13,14, which to me clearly indicates that it is much easier to be lost than to be saved.

      • Tweety58

        Matthew 5:45

        New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)

        45 so that you may be children of your Father in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the righteous and on the unrighteous.

        AFTER the Chastisement(Remermber the Deluge) He will gather his grain and burn the weeds Satan has strewn into his growing crop.

  • Michael

    This is a true story, so take note. I was googling a church (Christian) story over the weekend and not having any luck finding it. Well a link to the Church of Satan came up, that being LaVay’an Satanism. So I thought I would glance to educate myself. What Mr. Giles describes and basically the humanist secular tenant that is so popular today with our culture and political ruling class is basically the same tenants with a few differences as the Church of Satan that was established in 1963. Think about that for a moment and let it sink in.

    • Jesus is God

      There is only one Truth, one God, one Savior, there are many “religions” that point you away from Truth.

      Think about that.

      • Michael

        I thought it was clear that I was a Christian. Of course there is only one God and only one path, Jesus, to Heaven. I was simply pointing out that since 1963 our culture has basically taken on the tenants of actual Satanism.

      • 124andmore

        OK, I thought about it. Now I think I’ll have a plate of nachos and a beer.

        • Jesus is God

          Luke 12:19 And I’ll say to myself, “…Take life easy; eat drink and be merry.

          For tomorrow you may die.

          • 124andmore

            Finally! A bible quote I can agree with!

  • bodica

    Bravo, Doug! On the article and on your recovery! Thank God!

  • Oldchopper

    Personally I find it difficult if not impossible to claim much as entertainment coming out of Hollywood. Even the History channel will distort or just ignore the truth when it doesn’t fit their ideology. They push the political and unscientific weather agenda of global warming, the ungodly and also unscientific agenda of evolution and an overpopulation agenda by means of abortion and euthanasia. So where’s the entertainment? Even their cartoons have been formatted to accommodate the ignorant adult. Entertainment’s now extremely violent, has children speaking profanity, uses naked men and women doing things adults should be ashamed of.
    Even true stories that would normally lift your spirits are filled with edits that add more bloody action or profanity that puts it over the top to get a higher than “G” rating to be more appealing to the adult population. You may say that’s more realistic and I sadly agree. We’ve become a nation of violent adulterous and ignorant people.

  • Colleen Phillips

    And so, Doug, what is worse? To believe that Phillip Seymour Hoffman ends up in heaven, or to believe that Jesus, who alledgedly loves Hoffman, prefers to send him to an eternally burning hell, maintained by God for the sole purpose of torturing and tormenting for eternity the souls of those who lost their way during life on this Earth. Never could comprehend why we are horrified at the thought of someone torturing another human being, yet it’s perfectly alright for God to torture humans without any reprieve and without an end. By maintaining an eternal torture prison, God perpetuates evil and gives sinners a form of eternal life. How can you worship a God like that?

    • WesTexan

      The so-called god you describe is not the God that Christians worship. That’s just your own twisted version to make yourself feel good. First, God loves the world, i.e, all of humanity. All of humanity is born in sin; if you die in your sins, you will be separated from God for eternity. However, God was incarnate as a man named Jesus. This man took on Himself the sins of the world, including yours and took them to the cross in his own flesh—sin and our sinful nature was crucified with Jesus. He died, was buried and rose from the dead. He returned as the Life-giving Spirit who can take up residence in any human who accepts him. And there’s the rub. You must repent of your sins and receive him. That’s your choice, not his. God even offers repentance as a gift; it’s not even something you must gen up. It’s offered free, but you must accept it and exercise it—which means turning away from your sinful life. It’s sad, but that’s the sticking point for so many, so like you, they must demonize the God who is real and invent something to take His place so they (you) can sidestep repentance. That’s why the truth—not the lie—will set you free.

      • Colleen Phillips

        Thank you for trying to educate me, but I was an evangelical Christian for most of my adult life. Doug Giles is the one who believes in an eternal Hell run by God where He torments lost souls forever -

        • WesTexan

          So what? That’s just a title. There are a lot of titles with “Christian” tacked on. The title doesn’t have anything to do with your choices. Quit hiding behind Doug Giles and some title you once claimed.

          Hell is separation from God—and that’s by choice. Now Satan, on the other hand, has a standing reservation.

          “And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning
          sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will
          be tormented day and night for ever and ever.” Rev. 20:10

        • Jesus is God

          Everyone is headed toward hell unless they accept Jesus. If they believe in him then they will never die. If they reject him then they will be condemned forever. It is their will, not God’s.

          You “were” an evangelical Christian? What did you proclaim? I take it you are no longer a Christian?

          1John 2:19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.

      • 124andmore

        WesTexan: You say that “All of humanity is born in sin”. You also believe that God created us. Couldn’t God have saved Jesus from a lot of agony if he would have created us without sin? If I were Jesus, I would be very angry with my father.

        • WesTexan

          Humanity was created without sin, but chose differently. Now, all humanity is born in sin. I guess I should not be surprised at the level of ignorance (lack of knowledge) concerning the Christian worldview. The Bible used to be taught along with other great works of literature, and I think most people in the Western world had an elementary knowledge of the storyline. Unfortunately, now the basics seem to be out of reach for the man on the street. As far as your last statement, Jesus is God the Father incarnated in the flesh. Find a Bible (old Testament)—any translation and read Isaiah 9:6 (or Google it)—all one and the same God.

        • Jesus is God

          Perhaps he should have said, “Since the fall of mankind, man has sinned”.

          Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned…

          Jesus suffered for us because of his great love for us.

          Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this; while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

        • hicktown gal

          If God had created us without the ability to sin, he would also have made us without free will….more akin to an animal or a robot. Would the love of your flesh and blood child be worth more to you than the blind obedience of a robot?

          • 124andmore

            If our brains were computers, and good programmer could have programmed us to be unable to sin. I assume that the God you pray to is more talented than Bill Gates.

    • Warwagon

      There is no eternal torment in hell as you have been taught and have come accept and believe. In the end there is life and death. For the save: life. For the unsaved: death.
      Do you recall that Christ spoke of a second death. Well, this where many false teachers will find they are given. According to Christ the blood of many is upon for heads all because they did not teach the truth, but instead taught fallacies and outright lies. They deceived others.
      The lake of fire is where the judged are to be cast. Not quite the eternal hell as too many have been falsely taught. Read the scriptures. The result of sin is death. This has been reiterated many times throughout the scriptures.
      Quite accepting the teachings of men, but read into the scriptures for yourself.
      Death is the absence of life. And God has every right to bring death and destruction upon any of his creation that he so chooses.
      Does the builder not have the right to tear down what he built up. Does the painter not have the right to throw to the fire what painting he so chooses. Does the digger not have the right to leave open the pit he has dug, or to decide the depth and width of it.
      You have little or no knowledge of God, or you would not have made accusation against the one who brought forth life and has the right to remove what he has made.

      • Jesus is God

        Matt 10:28 Do not be afraid of those who can kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

        Jesus believed in hell, why don’t you?

        • Warwagon

          Because the result of the judgment is death.
          Yes, there are scriptures which would suggest just that which you believe. But then there are scriptures which suggest what I have come to believe. You see, I once believed as you regarding hell. However, there are other scriptures which support this. The wages of sin is death. Can’t be more simpler than that.
          Salvation gives one eternal life. Should the unsaved also share in eternal life.
          When a man dies, where does he go. Does he go to hell if he is unsaved. Is the body of man delivered to hell in death. Or perhaps the soul of man. This is not scriptural. It is written than man has no advantage over the beast in death. As the flesh and soul of the beast are delivered to the earth in death, so is the flesh and soul of man. But man has advantage over the beast in that man is spirit as well. Which the beast is absent of. So too were the giants, or Nephilim of the Genesis. Being the product of an unholy union between women and the fallen sons, children were produced. These abominations before God were as the beasts in that they had flesh and soul, but no spirit.
          I have said this before. And I say it again. God’s salvation is not for the flesh of man, but the spirit of man. Satan, who has not come as flesh cannot receive God’s salvation.
          Salvation is given to the spirit through the flesh. This was God’s plan in coming to this world as the Son of Man. We, who were made spirit first cannot receive that salvation without being given to flesh.
          Where is hell. What is hell. Is it but the lake of fire to which those judged are cast. Will not Satan also be cast into the lake of fire. This is hell. But it is not for eternal torment, but death and destruction.
          Jesus spoke of a second death. To what then did Christ refer to a second death. Surely a man does not come to death, buried and resurrected, then judged are delivered to hell. Where then is the second death if that man has seen but the one death.
          Man as flesh and blood is subject to one death. And only one death. How then is the second given if not for the flesh of man. Simple. The spirit of man shall stand eternal through the salvation of God. But the spirit of the unsaved is delivered up to the second death.
          If you cannot fathom what has been given you, how then can anything else be given that you might know the truth in hell.
          Lazarus was delivered to the bosom of Abraham. The rich man was of great thirst and asked that Lazarus dip his fingers into the water and touch his lips. Dis the rich man thirst for the water required of the flesh, or another water. Is Christ not the river of life and is not a river likened to water.
          There will be men of renown, distinguished men who have taught and preached, who will be the ones to go to Christ. They will say, did we not cast out devils in your name, teach in your name and do all manner of things in your name. Christ will tell them to depart from him, that he never knew them. Why. Because they taught not the truth, but what seemed to be truth. Only their truth will deliver many to the very hell I have spoken.
          You say I belong to this church and another says he belongs to another church, yet another says he belongs to yet another church. If the three enter a house which differentiates from teaching of doctrine, are they members of the same church. Or has that church become divided against itself. Can it them be said that it a house of Christ, divided. Surely not.
          What I know, you cannot know, unless it is revealed. You will not find it spoken within any of the houses. You may disagree, but if you peer into the many scriptures given throughout the Bible, you should then understand this.
          I and all born into this world through the womb were created in the first creation. This creation was restricted to the spiritual realm. Many sons were made. Countless sons. The number of which is known only but to God. Billions upon billions were created. Many of us rebelled and fell away. As Satan rebelled, we also rebelled. For this, God set forth the plan of salvation. Salvation required the creation of the physical. This being the world and man and woman. That though the water of the womb the spirit would be delivered in the flesh. That God would come into the world, born through the womb, become the Son that salvation would be fulfilled
          In essence, we are all born again. In death, we give up the spirit that had been given to the body. We each return back to God. But there is a division, a separation one from another. The saved are established to the right hand of Christ and unsaved to the left hand. One cannot go from left to right, nor right to left. Here is where the wheat and tares have been separated. The sheep and the goats.
          In closing. If you believe the Bible to be easily understood, you are so very wrong. To many it is a stumbling block. To them they rely on being fed the food of the gospel and they are held by unclean hands. God does answer, but answers according to his time plan. Not ours. I did not come to know this overnight, but by much asking, not of men, but of the one gave it.
          I surmise that you may not have identified the Harlot who sits upon the Beast of Revelation. Who is also Babylon the Great. She is well known throughout the world and she is well established, having many followers. She has daughters, who are not unlike her in that as mother deceives, also do her daughters.
          All I can tell you is peer through the scriptures for answers.
          Finally. The promise of salvation was given before the foundation of the world. To whom was the promise then given. Those having no need, or those in need. Who then are the needy and how then is salvation given.

          • Jesus is God

            1John 5:12 Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.

            God tells us that if you do not have Jesus, then you do not have life, if you do not have life then you are dead.

            That means everyone that does not have Jesus is dead. Jesus came to give us life.

            John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.

            Yes the judgement is death, but that judgement is on all of mankind until you are made alive in Christ.

      • Colleen Phillips

        Hey Warwagon, I’m not the one who believes in eternal torment; it’s all these other people who do that I’m arguing with. I am well familiar with the term “second death” and its meaning.

        Here is the reply I just posted to Mr. “Jesus is God:”

        Explain this then:
        “For behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as
        an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be
        stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of
        hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.” Malachi 4:1
        “And
        ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles
        of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.”
        Malachi 4:3
        What part of “stubble,” and “burn them UP” and “ashes” do you not understand?

        • Warwagon

          I believe what I posted is in line with what you addressed. I never said there was eternal torment, but death as the result of judgment.

        • Warwagon

          My comment concerned what seemed by your manner of post, condemnation and judgment concerning God.

          In part, your comment: another human being, yet it’s perfectly alright for God to torture humans without any reprieve and without an end. By maintaining an eternal torture prison, God perpetuates evil and gives sinners a form of eternal life. How can you worship a God like that?

          If that was not your intention, you not fair well in the presentation. And I still stand by my comment.

    • gladdrial

      You really are clueless, ‘aren’t you’.

      • Colleen Phillips

        And you obviously have nothing to useful to say, do you?

    • Evan White

      Hey, are you one of the phelps from WBC who preaches God Hates Fags and God Hates America

      • Colleen Phillips

        What are you talking about? What are “phelps?”

    • Carmen A. Cantalupo

      Humans are given a free gift of choice we are the ones that pick where we are going God Gave us His Son to free us from Hell we whom pick Christ live and those who do not go to Hell their choice!

      • Colleen Phillips

        Not my point at all – Does God or does He not maintain an eternally burning place of torture where He purposely torments the lost? If so, then you excuse that horror by claiming that people choose to go there? Sorry – no cigar!

        • SeaDragon

          God doesn’t choose to send people there, He gave us free will, and it is up to us to choose Him, or not. When we reject Him in everything we say, do, or think … that is us telling Him “I want nothing to do with you. If we don’t change He will be hurt by losing us, but He gave us free will and will let us go where He isn’t. IT IS YOUR CHOICE. Please make it a wise one.

        • Jesus is God

          Mark 9:43 If your hand causes you to stumble,cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where THE FIRE NEVER GOES OUT.

          Jesus believes in hell, why don’t you?

          • Colleen Phillips

            You might want to check the Greek on that. It actually means that the fire burns as long as the nature of the subject allows; in other words, until it is completely consumed, and there is nothing left but ashes. And I suppose you expect me to believe that Jesus is instructing you to literally chop your hand off if it “causes you to stumble.” People are pretty cavalier about what they want to take literally and what they consider to be figurative or symbolic. Whatever, suits your purpose, I guess.

          • Jesus is God

            The purpose of the ministry of Jesus, was to clarify the law. There were those that suffered from self righteousness, the belief that they were righteous when in fact there is none that are righteous. Rom 3:10
            This is why he said that if you get angry with your brother, you will be subject to judgement, just as the murderer is. Matt 5:21,22
            The self righteous, believing that they are righteous already, do not seek salvation, because they believe they are not condemned.
            But the whole world is condemned and in need of salvation.
            Hbr 10:27 …but only a fearful expectation of judgement and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
            The purpose of his ministry was to save people, not condemn.

          • Colleen Phillips

            Yup, the key phrase here is “raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.” That means it burns until there is nothing left to burn, and then it’s over. “Who ONLY hath immortality. . .” Timothy 6:16. “For the wages of SIN is DEATH, and the GIFT of God is ETERNAL LIFE through Jesus Christ our Lord.” Romans 6:23. I can quote Bible verses, too. According to the Bible, only God is immortal by nature, and he confers the gift of immortality on the saved, not on the lost so he can inflict eternal pain and torment on them without end. The wages of sin is permanent death, from which there is no resurrection; The wages of of sin is NOT eternal life in hell. So often, people misinterpret those terms like “unquenchable fire,” which really translate to mean that the fire can’t be put out until it stops burning because there is nothing left to burn.

          • Jesus is God

            Again, I am not saying that God torments anyone for an eternity, but they do go somewhere after they leave their mortal body and the bible tells us that it is heaven or hell.
            That is the question posed in this blog.

          • Colleen Phillips

            Explain this then:
            “For behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.” Malachi 4:1
            “And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.” 4:3
            What part of “stubble,” and “burn them UP” and “ashes” do you not understand?

          • Jesus is God

            Hey I never said that anyone is going to be eternally tormented, I just quoted Jesus who referred to hell as a real place. And by the way, my apostolic Greek translation translates as “the fire inextinguishable” .
            I am fully aware that when Jesus returns he will destroy all his enemies.
            However, until that day comes, those that reject Jesus go to hell. This conversation has to do with what happens to those that die.
            Do you deny that hell exists?

          • 124andmore

            Bubba 8:27 Eat the pizza while it’s hot, and don’t drink more than your share of the beer.

        • Dewayne Pippin

          John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

      • 124andmore

        Carmen, please try using some punctuation once in a while. Also, please explain “God gave us His Son to free us from hell”. How does that work? Are you saying that I don’t have to worry about going to hell because the Romans beat the crap out of Jesus and then murdered him?

        • Dewayne Pippin

          What carmen is saying is..John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

          • 124andmore

            DP: “He that believeth on him is not condemned.” I assume your meant ‘in’ not ‘on’. Are you saying that if the now executed Juan Carlos Chavez believed in God at the time of his execution he would not go to hell? If that’s true, God must be a Democrat.

          • Jesus is God

            King James version “on”, NKJ “in”. Same difference, WHOEVER believes in Jesus will be saved. The bible tells us that if you have ever sinned, the least of sins, that means you are guilty of all sin, and the bible tells us that ALL have sinned.

            That means you and I are as guilty as Juan Carlos Chavez and any other sinner.

            That is why God sent Jesus, to save the WORLD, which means everyone.

          • 124andmore

            You, sir, are an idiot.

          • catnap

            You may want to look in a mirror before you start calling others idiots. Whether you like it or not, sin is sin. There is no ‘better’ or ‘worse’. Sin is sin. Please read the Bible before calling others names. It isn’t nice and it is not necessarily correct just because you throw it out there. Common courtesy seems to have gone by the wayside.

          • 124andmore

            catnap: You say “sin is sin”. I assume you mean that stealing a piece of candy is the same as raping and decapitating a child. if that’s what you believe, you are an idiot.

        • catnap

          Punctuation does help – as does proper grammar. As for ‘how that works’ – check the Bible. It is spelled out there in great detail.

    • Jesus is God

      2Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness, he is patient with you, NOT WANTING ANYONE TO PERISH, but everyone come to repentance.

      So God does not wish anyone to be destroyed, tortured or burn in hell. He wants to save everyone from that fate. Therefore, only those that reject God’s provision for salvation end up condemned, it is THEIR WILL not God’s.

    • 124andmore

      CP: I wish I had said that, but I probably wouldn’t have said it as well as you did.

    • catnap

      I love something C. S. Lewis said about hell. “Heaven is with God. Hell is without God. Hell must be cold.”
      CP – you are using the touch-feely emotion-laden reaction that has no relationship to the word of God. Please educate yourself before trying to speak intelligently (and failing) on this subject.
      As to whether anyone goes to heaven, that is between that person and God – no one else. CNN, TMZ & Hollywood are not the arbiters of who does and does not go anywhere after they die.

  • disqus_Eh7aK6ca5A

    No, they do NOT bypass Hell unless they ask God for forgiveness as they are dying. THAT is a Hollywood machination. If they took the READ the Bible–the REAL one, not the one they CREATED IN HOLLYWOOD– they would KNOW this.

  • Evan White

    The only Celebrities i can think of that are Christians are the Robertsons who host that Duck Dynasty show and my favorite all time favorite country singer Josh Turner

  • Carmen A. Cantalupo

    As a Pastor No they do not get a free out of hell card! No one does unless one repents of their sin(s) Excepts Christ in to their lives they go to hell Not my words God’s word Jesus said onto him I am the way the truth no one comes to the Father except by me! John 14:6 He does not get out of Hell sorry the bust your bubble!

    • Jesus is God

      Pastor, they believe he is in heaven because they do not know God. They think of themselves as good people. Jesus tells us that no one is good but God.

    • catnap

      I agree with you – in everything except using the word ‘except’ instead of ACCEPT. One ACCEPTS Christ into their lives.

  • ONTIME

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  • foxxybey

    He and those he intertained won’t like the heat but, that is what they wanted and that is what they will receive by choice. Enjoy the heat, it only last forever.

  • Christian Gains

    Madelin O’her(sp?) Murrey was the “Beginning of the end”…and now, here we are, just steps away from the Rev.18 “END OF DAYS”….And “KILL’IN CHRIST-ians” is the new “en vogue”….It just hasn’t gotten HERE yet…yet…(they’re HERE…just not kill’in yet)….

  • Jesus is God

    Judging from a lot of the responses posted here, I would have to say the reason why so many think their dead icons are in heaven is because they don’t believe in hell. That is too bad because Jesus believed in hell and you really can’t be a believer in Jesus if you do not believe what he said.

  • Mark Marquis

    Dead, so called Stars go to a place kind of like a movie theater where their Earthly films are playing continuosly over and over and over for eternity and on a table next to them is a loaded handgun and the only way to make it stop is………………… well you know.

    • P Marz

      In Hell they would only wake up to have to repeat this scenario over an over for eternity. Sort of like Groundhog Day but only much,much worse.

  • Todd Anderson

    Mother Theresa was probably a bad example to use as someone who went to heaven. It was revealed in her diaries that she lived every day of her adult life in terror of God and unless in her final moments she relied on Christ’s righteousness alone to save her instead of her own outward pharisaical ‘righteousnes’ then the same fate awaited her that awaits all who reject the finished, completed work of Christ for them on the cross. There is still only One way…

    • Jesus is God

      1john 4:18 There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment.The ONE WHO FEARS IS NOT MADE PERFECT IN LOVE.

    • Arcel1970

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    • Jean

      NOT TRUE.

  • AR154U

    Liberals want to believe that Jesus is much like George Carlin,… some new age hippie that will accept everyone only like themselves?? That somehow drugs are ok because God made them, that all sex (even sick twisted sex) is good, because God made it, and finally do what you want that feels good, because God made you!

    • AR154U

      DNC Protester!

      • Jesus is God

        I guess this guy is not aware that when Jesus returns it will be with a sword and that he will destroy all of his enemies.

        • 124andmore

          If Jesus is such a tough guy, how did he end up on the cross?

  • talonspoint

    To answer the question in your header; No (as you would clearly agree by your article)

    It is appointed for man to die and face judgement and the singular way to find God’s peace in eternity is through accepting his Prince of peace as Savior here on earth.

  • soanonymous

    Well, what did God say? If you believe in Jesus you will be saved. It’s possible for someone who lived a wretched, messed up life to repent 5 minutes before dying. Does that mean that person is still going to Hell? Is anybody born saved?

  • calmo

    It’s entirely possible that the American public has become so obsessed with entertainment and entertainers that they can’t view them from the perspective of reality and logic. We have no way of knowing what’s OK with God without reading his express words. And according to his express words, “He that believes and is baptized will be saved; he who doesn’t believe will be damned.” Further reading proves a continued life of service to Him, ON HIS TERMS, is necessary to be among the saved. (Almost everyone now seems to think they can dictate the terms to God.) And, further, nobody is in heaven (except the hosts of angels who were created as angels, and are not morphed from human beings) until Jesus returns on the Last Day and separates the saved from the unsaved. Matthew 7:13-14 says: ” Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.” (The archaic definition of “strait”: a. Narrow. b. Affording little space or room; confined. c. Fitting tightly; constricted.)

    • Jesus is God

      You say that nobody is in heaven other than angels. That is not true. In 2Cor 5:6-8 Paul speaks to the fact that when we are in the body we are away from the Lord, but that when we are away from the body we are with the Lord. We know that the Lord Jesus is in heaven, therefore those that have passed are also in heaven.
      1Ths 4:14 tells us that when Jesus returns he will bring with him those that have died.
      Jesus tells us that no one comes to the Father except through him and the Father is in heaven. John 14:6
      Matt 7:21 Jesus tells us that only those who do the will of the Father will enter heaven. Has No one done the will of the Father?
      There are many more examples, but I hope you get the point.

  • Somekindofpatriot

    That’s right folks, even Mother Teresa needed Jesus blood sacrifice to make the cut.

    Of all the Christians in the world, Mother Teresa must rank near the top. She must have the longest list of good works behind her name. She must have the largest number of good deeds. Within the grade book of heaven, she has more gold stars behind her name than any other name. Within the grade book of heaven, she has more 100% and more perfect papers than any other saint who has ever lived. Yet, she too was given eternal life and salvation. She didn’t earn it. She doesn’t deserve it. I repeat: Mother Teresa does not deserve eternal life…although you and I waffle a bit and think she does. We think to ourselves: “Mother Teresa has loved the dying people in Calcutta so much; surely, Mother Teresa deserves eternal life.”

    The Bible is very clear on this: All people have sinned. All people have fallen short of the glory of God. No one is saved by their good works before Almighty God. We are saved by grace, through faith, in Jesus Christ. Salvation is a gift, it’s for all and any willing to believe on Jesus. We can’t earn it and we certainly don’t deserve it.

    The Apostle Paul writes in Romans 3: “All people, (including Mother Teresa) all people have sinned and all people fall short of the glory of God. No one will be justified before God by their good works. Instead, all people are saved by grace, by mercy, by forgiveness, that we would have faith in Christ whose blood cleanses us from all sin. Therefore no one can boast. No one can brag about one’s good works. No one can brag about one’s faith. The only thing that we can boast about is the goodness and mercy and grace of God. If you want to boast, boast of Jesus Christ and his blood which cleanses us from sin.” What a classic passage, here are a few more.

    “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.” -Ephesians 2:8-10

    “Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no
    flesh be justified.” -Galatians 2:16

    Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; -Titus 3:5

    “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”
    -Romans 1:16

    Acts 10:43 states, “To him give all the prophets witness, that through his
    name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.”

    The GOSPEL (defined in 1st Corinthians 15:1-4 as Christ’s death, burial and
    bodily resurrection). We are ALL sinners deserving of hell-fire. Jesus Christ
    (the Son of God) paid for our sins with His blood; Jesus DIED; Jesus was BURIED
    and Jesus ROSE from the dead for our justification.

    The gospel frees us from having to be saved by our good works, hey if Mother Teresa can’t make it into heaven by her good works than most certainly neither can you or I.

    Hopefully Mr. Hoffman had accepted this wonderful gift of Jesus Christ Gospel.

  • catnap

    I love all these ‘God fearing’ folks that are being nasty to each other. That is, I’m sure, the way Jesus would approve of. Come on people! Folks will disagree. Why be nasty and try and show how very ‘educated’ you are while denigrating another? Please! It is counterproductive.

  • Claude M. Dionne

    Regarding the Hollywoodian world of rock musicians, mainstream and porn movie per-formers, it seems awfully clear to me that a lot of these ‘spoiled’ humans are ‘hedonistic’ enough that they don’t any savior to derail their “fun-filled” experience, but perhaps they would gladly invite some aliens who flew the Milky Way on their flying saucer to either come crashing at their party, or else, have a deep conversation about where we did co-me from, where we are headed/(ing), and where we may end or not end. Finally, re-
    garding the tragic impact of drugs, it has predominantly claimed thousands of writers, playrights, beatniks, musicians, singers, actors/actresses, porn star performers, pro-athletes, and the list goes on, and, and on… that includes ‘The 27 Club': J. Hendrix, B. Jones, and too many more to mention. Personally, I am NOT a ‘Bible-thumper’, but I try not to self-destruct both my body and my mind. I have known at a very early age that neither ALCOHOL nor DRUGS are the ULTIMATE answer to countless perplexities in life. JUST THINK ABOUT IT!!

  • Harry Rainey Jr.

    Question about our lives are smoke or a vapor. Look up James 4:14, it’s right there in the Bible.

    • Shofar threading

      In this life we choose God or we choose satan. Heaven or hell. He’s made his own choice.

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