About the author: Doug Giles

Doug Giles is the Big Dawg at ClashDaily.com and the Co-Owner of The Safari Cigar Company. Follow him on Facebook and Twitter. And check out his new book, Rise, Kill and Eat: A Theology of Hunting from Genesis to Revelation.

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  • RhondaOR

    This column is rubbish. Noah is sinful and not be watched by Christians as Glenn Beck instructed us. Glenn Beck knows more than Doug and he watches out for us. Unlike this smart alleck.

    • Dan

      Lmao!

    • Saltporkdoc

      WHAT?????!!!!!!
      Glenn Beck telling us how to live vs an ordained minister?
      I agree with you Dan! (Below)

      • Alison

        Glenn Beck or ordained ministers, hmmm.

    • ansonheath

      I have no idea who you are, Rhonda, but judging by your other posts that I have seen, this article by DG sort of addresses you and your compatriots – the pietistic society! You know, like the Pharisees.
      BTW – I like Glenn Beck, but he is not my consultant on theology.:)

    • dmbunce

      I will decide for myself, thank you.

    • Alison

      Glenn Beck is a Mormon.

      • Revere

        Glenn is also a moron!
        A clever one but a moron nevertheless.

  • knight2

    It is said that The Lord God works in mysterious ways. Even having an atheist make a movie of the Almighty to get His Story and Word out to the masses. Sure, the
    atheist will make a ton of money using God, but what good is it to gain
    the entire world only to lose your soul? Bottom line, who wins? God
    wins….always!

    • Saltporkdoc

      My dad, an ordained minister, once was challenged by a known atheist following a scandal involving a well known (then) evangelist. Dad was asked what he thought about a God who allowed such behavior from one of His spokepersons. My father’s reply was, in my opinion a classic. “As I understand it, God makes beautiful music even with a broken instrument.”

      • medivac

        Semper Fi, Doc !! Or should i say CORPSEMAN as obama said it ??

      • William Hudson

        Yes, I can see how God may turn what was meant for evil into good as He does in many cases. All of the controversy may drive those who are not too lazy to read the Word of God for the first time in their lives to read it in search of the Truth.

    • garysvent

      The problem is that the unchurched will see the movie and think that all Christians believe this Hollyweird tripe because they don’t know the difference between this balderdash and the real thing. Which also means, they will think Christians are nuts, because this movie is like a science fiction version of Genesis written by Mel Brooks.

  • Richard Diaz, Sr.

    When it comes to making Biblical movies, Hollywood seldom gets it right.

  • Al

    Saying Noah isn’t accurate is like saying Disney didn’t depict Snow White correctly. It’s a made up story. You may not see it that way but so what? You don’t own the bible and don’t get to dictate what people draw from it. If it offends you then you will spend your short time on earth time being offended. Spend you time however you want but I prefer to enjoy life.

  • warpsix

    If they were going to keep God out of Noah they should have told the story of Gilgamesh.

    • RockyMtn1776

      Most people today have no idea who Gilgamesh was. They don’t read, don’t think and appear to be quite happy that way.

  • Angelfire4280

    A Socialist, vegan, environmentalist – Noah. You might be surprised, Doug.

  • 4lifeandfreedom

    Erick Erickson called the movie hysterical and a fantasy, I believe. It was stated by someone that the producer is an atheist, so what does a Christian expect!

  • Winston

    Here’s a question: since when does the written Word of God need to be portrayed in movies when it stands alone in strength for over 4000 years? It’s the money grubbers who impose movies upon us. There are those who view the Scriptura only from stories told them when they were children in Sunday school. So, for those and others who dare not venture into reading God’s Word and movies are all they’ll ever really know about God then how will they enter Heaven? Likely not.

  • 80s Rocker

    Actually there have been good Christian movies that have been successful, include 2 current films.

    1. Facing The Giants
    2. Courageous
    3. Fireproof
    4. Flywheel
    5. The Lion, Witch and Wardobe
    6. Prince Caspian
    7. The Passion Of Christ
    8. God’s Not Dead
    9. The Jesus Series, soon to be movie

    And personally I like the left behind series and wish they had done the complete series. Plus, the fact that they never were shown in Theatre’s and only on DVD was another mistake.

    IMO, Christians should not show any support for a movie that is not biblically correct. The best way to show support is by going to see it. So I will not go see it and hope next week the sales drop for this dramaticaly

    • fearlesskris

      You forgot veggie tales. Because listening to talking veggies most closely represents the audience here.

      • 80s Rocker

        You are right Veggie Tales are very well made and great for kids. Offers good stories with God centered values. Better than most of the new secular cartoons they are coming out with now. Yes, I do watch Veggie Tales with my kids and enjoy the time together.

        Why do you have to be so condescending in your reply. It just shows how intolerant you are of others views. There was no reason to attack anyone on this forum or suggest anyone is stupid for how they feel. Your post added no value to the discussion.

        • fearlesskris

          Have you responded in similar fashion to all others who have differing views? Who are completely trashing the film industry without regard to the fact that truth/fiction in biblical matters is a pretty silly discussion for human beings? I’m not trying to be condescending, just pointing out the futility of trying to determine what is “correct” – if we were truly meant to know god’s plans or thoughts, we’d know. I am glad you enjoy the show with your kids – I preferred Mr. Rogers for some of the same reasons. He showed grace and acceptance for all without disenfranchising those with different religious views or beliefs. This is one of Giles’ more funny/honest pieces. I hope he enjoys Noah. Sounds like an epic! 10 Commandments will be on next month – I watch it ever year. I am not confused about the truth or falsehood of the movie representation, lol.

          • Rich2741

            FEARLESSkris –

            You will be afraid, horribly afraid, at what is in store for you in the end moments of your life. Then you will know, but it will be too late.

  • RockyMtn1776

    Probably not, Noah is a work of fiction and must be taken as such. There really was a flood and this fiction story was done around that. I do not think Noah will be the money maker they expected as many Christians will refuse to pay to see it.

  • PatHenry

    Save your money and see a top quality Christian move “God is Not Dead” , it’s a wonderful movie worth the wait !!!

  • Bakertoytoy

    I am a born again Christian and I of course I will not go and pay my hard earned money to watch God and the bible be blasphemed, God will be the ultimate judge and judge HE will.

    • Rich2741

      Tell everyone you know “DON’T see this movie” (I have, and was really hoping it would at least be decent). It is an affront to all people who believe in The Bible; it was made that way on purpose.

      I want this movie to fail worse then any movie ever made; it is that disrespectful.

  • medivac

    I look at Hollyweird as fantasy land anyway. I take nothing they put out as truth but as entertainment of some sort and actors as just that, actors. A few good in morals but most lacking morals.

    • Rich2741

      You are missing the point with -this movie- though. It is an affront to all people who believe in The Bible; it was made that way on purpose.

      I want this movie to fail worse then any movie ever made; it is that disrespectful.

  • Dale Mcginnis

    At one time the church was involved in hollywood and most movies portrayed Christians in a good light and the movie had a good moral to it. Then the church got the brilliant idea that it shouldn’t be involved in hollywood and hollywood and our culture has gone downhill since. No I am not saying that we should spend our money seeing all the tripe that comes out of hollywood. But we should encourage Christians to get involved in the industry and support the decent movies as few as they are. And no, I have no interest in seeing Noah

  • kenhowes

    I went to see the movie, open-minded. After the opening scene, which gave a pretty accurate summary of the Creation and Fall, things went downhill in a big hurry. The Nephilim of Gen. 6 were turned into weird rock-creatures. The voice of God never spoke. Noah and his family didn’t really build the Ark; the rock-creatures did. The metal-working descendant of Cain, Tubal-cain, who is never said in Genesis to have met Noah, is Noah’s chief enemy. Remember in Genesis that Ham and Japhet brought wives onto the Ark? Nope, not in this movie. Ham finds a girl, but she dies without being able to get onto the Ark, and Japhet is still a young boy, far from marriageable age. Shem does get a wife, and begets on his wife twin daughters, who aren’t mentioned in Genesis. When those daughters are born, Noah decides he’s going to kill them, driving Shem, his wife, and Noah’s own wife frantic for the babies. After Noah and his family got onto the Ark, God shut them up in the Ark; they didn’t shut the Ark themselves. Nobody else got into the Ark. But in the movie, Tubal-cain sneaks into the Ark and makes Ham into a confederate.

    Too bad. Russell Crowe and Emma Watson are good actors and Anthony Hopkins (Methuselah) is a great actor; but this movie is mediocre as film and poor as a telling of a Biblical story. Apparently the producer of this movie is an atheist and bragged before its making that this would be the “least biblical biblical epic ever made.”

    There is a certain amount of permissible artistic license in these things. “The Ten Commandments” had Nefertiri cooing “Oh, Moses, Moses,” at him, trying to get him to cast his lot with Egypt and the Court against the Hebrews. There’s nothing in Exodus saying that happened; but there’s nothing saying it didn’t. That can be done in a film without doing violence to the text. And two different episodes can be conflated into one (the Golden Calf and the revolt of Korah and Dathan). That’s fine. They were in fact separate incidents, but they did both happen, and both represented revolts against Moses’–and God’s–authority. If there’s going to be any liberties taken with the text, they should be relatively minor ones like that, which basically fill in blanks in the text, not things that actually contradict the text.

    But there have been movies that have done a very good presentation of Biblical stories. “The Passion of the Christ” had a few things added in for dramatic effect, but it is a very accurate and vivid account of the Crucifixion, right down to have all the characters speak the languages that they would probably have been speaking, variously Aramaic, Greek and Latin. “The Gospel of John” was a very careful, meticulous retelling of that book. “The Greatest Story Ever Told” was a good portrayal of the life of Jesus as told in the Gospels, with Max von Sydow in one of the most convincing portrayals of Jesus ever–he conveyed the sense that Jesus transcended nature. There have been others.

    So don’t make it out that Christians have fallen down on the job of making good movies about Biblical texts. Add to that excellent movies about great Christians since then, such as “Quo Vadis”, which tells of the end of St. Peter, and a couple of movies about Luther.

    As a Lutheran, I’d like to see a movie made of “Zion on the Mississippi”, the story of the Saxon migration to America.

    • Rich2741

      Very well written… but -I- would go even further in condemning it.

      I flat-out say DON’T see this movie (I have, and was really hoping it would be decent). It is an affront to all people who believe in The Bible (which was its purpose)

      I want this movie to fail worse then any movie ever made; it is that disrespectful.

  • Joken Joe

    I’ll wait and watch it when it gets to amazon prime. My guess is it will not take long.

  • http://www.grizzlymom.com/ grizzlymom

    I don’t care if it’s biblically accurate. I just don’t care to be lectured about global warming and all the related leftist agenda points, so I make it my mission to steer clear of anything designed to do that, and I certainly take great care not to pay for it!

    • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

      As we all know the world we live in has turned upside down.
      What is good is now called evil. What is evil is now called
      good. God’s Word is now called “hate material” and talking
      about God’s laws is called “hate speech.” Lawlessness is
      increasing at every level. The wicked continue to push their
      evil upon us. Christians are being persecuted, arrested, beaten
      and jailed. Many Christians are being murdered in cold blood.
      Our liberties are being taken away from us. We are moving into
      a One World Government.

      Pastor Kirk DiVietro and I have created a website that explains from
      God’s Word what is going on and where it’s all leading to.
      Our website is called: itshallcometopass dot org

      Respectfully, Ray

      • Rich2741

        Post on your website to NOT see this movie (I have, and was really hoping it would be decent). It is an affront to all people who believe in The Bible.

        I want this movie to fail worse then any movie ever made; it is that disrespectful.

      • TexasJester

        Hey, Marine, long time no see!

        Remember Bizarro World (not the modern comic strip)? Everything was bass-ackwards. I think we’ve become that odd place…

    • Winston

      You lost me with “I don’t care if it’s Biblically accurate”.

      • http://www.grizzlymom.com/ grizzlymom

        I admit I should have worded that better. What I meant is that I can deal with something not being to-the-letter as long as it doesn’t insult and demean the people it is portraying and the spirit of the story, and I personally enjoy seeing Biblical heroes depicted as badasses, but when I hear characters in these movies espousing leftist talking points, I consider that insulting and demeaning.

    • selahgreene

      It is disappointing. I too do not expect anything out of Hollywood to be Biblically accurate, but close would be nice. Director Darren Aronofsky, ardent atheist, promised to make the “least Biblical of all the Biblical movies”. And he did. He portrays Methuselah as a drug peddling shaman; God is not mentioned in the movie; Noah does not hear from God but has a drug-induced hallucination telling him to build the ark; Noah hates all females; blatant Darwinian evolutionism is presented; there is the ultimate climate change, Gaia worshiping dogma (kill all humans because they are mean to mother earth). Hollywood is making a fortune from Biblical stories while mocking the very Bible they come from at the same time. That is why I won’t spend good money on this film.

      Doug is right in that it’s past time for the American church to put its considerable wealth into some actually Biblical movies, and make some accurate Biblical blockbusters. If Mel Gibson can do it, why can’t the filthy rich church invest some of its resources into impact films? Maybe some of the ultrarich televangelists could sell a mansion or two apiece and invest in a Christian epic of Noah, and show the real story of God’s reaction to out-of-control sin. But, that is a sacrifice that the good TV Christians are unwilling to make; they really need those second and third mega-mansions.

    • Rich2741

      I saw it and it’s not based in ‘global warming’ at all.

      DON’T see this movie (I was really hoping it would be a decent Biblical story). It is an affront to all people who believe in The Bible.

      I want this movie to fail worse then any movie EVER made; it is that disrespectful.

  • Chris P

    Doug – how can you tell if any version is correct since they are all fiction. The flood is impossible any way you do any calculations and there is zero evidence for it.

    • selahgreene

      Actually there is much more evidence for a global flood than there is for an old earth – global flood strata; fossils found at the top levels of the Himalaya mountains; etc.

      • Chris P

        Rubbish – there is no evidence for a global flood just people that don’t understand plate tectonics. Either way a flood like that would be impossible.

        • picnicfun

          Go for entertainment not some reality. Just like going to see “Independence Day”. If it works in its environment, fine. If its a generally crappy movie, not fine.

          • Rich2741

            DON’T see this movie (I have, and was really hoping it would be decent). It is an affront to all people who believe in The Bible.

            I want this movie to fail worse then any movie ever made; it is that disrespectful.

    • picnicfun

      Chris, the same way you can tell if a Superman movie is correct. Read the book.

      • Chris P

        I did – I have read many books on the history of this planet and fluid flows. That sort of flood is impossible. Next.

  • Ken Cooley

    This fall a new movie that is coming out in theaters will be different in that it is not just another drama but an action adventure from a Christian film company. Look for this movie, “Beyond the Mask” and look it up on line before then and tell all of your friends. This will prove to be a great product from a solid Christian group who hired professional actors who have been seen in Indiana Jones and Lord of the Rings.
    Give it a look see.

    • Rich2741

      I looked it up. Cool.

  • Michael Skok

    Why don’t the churches get together and sponsor a Noah’s ark movie that is biblically correct and exciting to watch? Answers In Genesis is making a replica of the Ark at their museum in Kentucky. But hey leave the movie about it up to leftist Hollywood. They or we have nobody to blame but ourselves.

  • Barry Smith

    That this issue about a movie not portray a biblical character or event EXACTLY as it was I’d totally ridiculous. There have been no less than a dozen movies done on the subject of Noah and NOT ONE had been historically accurate even in the least bit, so why are they thrown a fit this time. Hollywood has done a Noah movie with Tony Danza As a carpenter, they have done one with Jack Chan As Noah they have done one with the late John Denver as Noah just to name a few, and they have all taken place in modern times so what is the big stink about. My God it Hollywood man, does anybody really expect them too get anything at all right.

    • Mys77

      But when they mock the bible, the christians and jews, ridicule the stories and people from the bible all in the hopes to make money, lots of it from unsuspecting believers, so they can turn around and make films that are violent, perverted, and immoral… then this is the time to stay home, enough is enough!

      • Rich2741

        100% correct.

        Tell everyone you know “DON’T see this movie” (I have, and was really hoping it would at least be decent). It is an affront to all people who believe in The Bible; it was made that way on purpose.

        I want this movie to fail worse then any movie ever made; it is that disrespectful.

  • ocarol500

    Don’t need to watch a movie … i prefer reading The Book!

  • Al Chemist

    Doug, under your number 3 above…sorry, no hunting allowed.

    According to the script in this movie, Noah’s job was to insure the destruction of mankind (completely), so that only animals would remain on the earth. Only a liberal/progressive/commie vegan could come up with such crap.

    • picnicfun

      You missed Doug’s point, which was being satirical of liberals.

  • shrgngatlas

    Yup, you’re going to find out that last quote from Genesis is exactly the OPPOSITE of how the movie plays it. They not only didn’t follow the biblical script like, say, DeMille’s “Ten Commandments” with it’s embellishments of the basic story, they ran a completely opposing version. Yuch. Good acting or not, I’m not interested.

  • El Mac

    Gotta respectfully disagree with you on this one Doug. Of course, you can spend your money how you want. I do agree with the premise of mission fielding the Arts. But feeding the belly of the beast, just because you like an actor – not so much.

  • William Hudson

    Doug,
    I can appreciate what you are saying, however I can tell you that gifted actors such a Russell Crowe are not essential for the production of an engaging, powerful, pull no punches, faith-based movie. Go view the movie “God’s Not Dead”, then decide whether or not you want to waste your money on “Noah”. There is an abundance of subject matter that can be tweaked, rewritten or even perverted into irreverence, but I personally do not want to be associated with a movie that treats the Holy Word of God Almighty in that manner.

    • Jinglebob

      The same reason Conservatives and Believers don’t produce quality films is the same reason there is really only one Conservative network. Money, but more important, investors are fearful of being publicly labeled, hounded, and ridiculed by the MSM for their beliefs. It’s just easier to be in the shadows.

      • picnicfun

        There are talented actors right out of acting school. It doesn’t have to cost 200 million. Some good movies are done for 20 million. James Cameron didn’t start with Titanic or Avatar. Start with good actors and materials, make money and more money will follow.

      • William Hudson

        If you are referring to the one conservative news network, that must be Fox, the number one rated and most profitable cable news network for the past decade.

  • refuse2lose

    They won’t get a dime of my money… It would be like me donating money to Planned ParentHood even though I am pro-life, And I would much rather watch an underfunded but BIBLICAL movie than something an atheist director spit out.

  • oldmovielover

    I second the suggestion to see “God Is Not Dead”. It was a very good movie with a great message and left you with much to think about.

    • Merlinever

      “God is not dead”.
      Of course He isn’t.
      Because He was never alive nor existed.
      Any more than unicorns do.
      Noah was a most ridiculous movie that presented ludicrous lies as historical fact, and encouraged people not to think or use their power of reason.

      • Rich2741

        Merlin-be-burnt-up,

        Don’t you want to support your atheist dirtbag pal who made this movie?

        • Merlinever

          Rich-in-ignorance2741: Don’t you ever have anything intelligent to say…?

          • Rich2741

            HELLoooooooooooo freak.

            It was a legitimate question. What’s the matter Merlin-is-gonna-burn, don’t you like being pestered with posts you don’t like?

          • Merlinever

            * see my last reply.

          • Rich2741

            HELLoooooooooooo again freak.

            Again, It was a legitimate question. What’s the matter Merlin-is-gonna-burn, don’t you like being pestered with posts you don’t like?

  • ItalianScallion

    Stop going to Hollywood movie, I have . They must be boycotted. Your making them rich and pass on their propganda

  • GQ4U

    Noah following the will of the creator — Gaia?
    The goddess of earth is dead — environmentalists are worshiping a corpse.
    Atheist producers prove their overly exaggerated hatred towards God. Why not do a film about the pedophile Muhammad who married a 9-year old? Beheading is a deterrent to films about Allah or the prophet of Islam. Atheists don’t attack Santa Clause either — just Christianity and the Judeo/Christian God. Devious liars make up the bulk of atheism.

    • Merlinever

      Muhammad (if he ever existed at all) wrote the marriage contract with Aisha when she was six years old – not when she was nine – and consummated the marriage while she was nine years old. (Bukhari: Vol. 7, book 62, hadith 88).
      Still you are right is suggesting that a film be made showing what a psychotic criminal and disgusting pedophile Muhammad was – that is if the people who made the film and worked on it could afford the 24 hour security that they would need after the film had been released to protect them from being killed by the followers of the religion of peace – for having committed the crime of exposing the truth about it

      • GQ4U

        Thanks for clearing that up.

        • Merlinever

          You are quite welcome. Now do me, yourself, and your country a big favor: read the following books ASAP:
          1.) “The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades” by Robert Spencer.
          2.) “Stealth Jihad” by Robert Spencer.
          3.) “Modern Day Trojan Horse; The Islamic Doctrine of Immigration” by Sam Solomon and E. Al Maqdisi.
          The importance of these three books cannot be over emphasized.

    • Rich2741

      Spot on.

  • jimshaw54

    The saying goes: a picture is worth 1,000 words. How much then would a Christian moved true to the bible be worth? And I am not talking about mamby pamby stuff. Enough of the meek and mild Jesus (read Revelations if you don’t believe me). It took GUTS to stand silent while his torturers were working him over. The bible is full of good he-man stuff, or true stuff that would satisfy the best sci-fi afficianado. Forget “Star Wars” and all of those fictions. Give the public enough of the real God who has power over all of the universe and you might manage to get the attention of more than a few scoffers.

    • Merlinever

      ” Give the public enough of the real God who has power over all of the universe and you might manage to get the attention of more than a few scoffers.”
      Or, as Hitler’s Minister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, so correctly observed,
      “Repeat a lie (or a bunch of lies and myths) long enough and loud enough and it will become the truth in the minds of those who hear it”.

      • jimshaw54

        Huh? Which side of the “coin” are you on — Hitler or God?

        • jzandensky

          I’ll answer: Hitler. Agent of evil.
          Hes mad at God. Let God sort him out

          • Rich2741

            You got it. Merlin-be-burnt-up is an agent of evil.

        • Merlinever

          I am not on the side of Hitler or of God.
          The only difference between those two is that Hitler existed and God never did.

          • jimshaw54

            Lot’s of luck when you die.

          • Merlinever

            Neither I nor you nor anyone else will need any luck when we die; this life is IT; there is no afterlife, no heaven, no hell.
            Now.
            Please grow up and stop believing in fairy tales.

          • jimshaw54

            Smile. Either way I win, but “if” (no doubt in my mind that I am) I am right you will be in deep kimchee.

          • Merlinever

            So please explain how it is that you think that “Either way I win”?
            If you die having wasted all of your life trying to prepare for an afterlife that doesn’t exist and to make yourself worthy of a heaven that is nothing but a ridiculous fairy tale, how do you reason that you will have won anything?
            And what’s wrong with “kimchee”?
            I very much enjoy spicy oriental dishes.

          • jimshaw54

            Who said that I have wasted my life…..? I have lead a very fulfilling and satisfying life, and I don’t have to “make myself worthy of heaven…” That was done FOR me.

            The best way to explain how “I won” is that if the last breath I take is the end. Period. Nothing after. I STILL have lived a good life. But if, as the Bible says, the last breath I take will be followed by eternal life (IF I choose life, because the choice is mine to make) I have won the biggest “prize” in existence. In other words, if I continue to believe there is nothing when I die, but there actually is, then I have “lost” BUT if there actually IS eternal life, and I continue to disbelieve, I have lost HUGE time.

            The Bible says (a bit paraphrased): The very heavens declare the Glory of God, and the firmament cry’s out that He exists. Look around you, man. Look at the sheer beauty and glory of a sunset, flowers of the fields, stars in the sky, the smile of a baby, and I could go on and on. If you choose to believe that all of this comes from a vacuum you are wrong. Nothing begets nothing, and noting can be made from nothing. If you choose to believe the universe was caused by a “big bang” (or whatever), I ask where did whatever the “big bang” was made of come from? It is FAR easier to believe “In the beginning God….” than in the beginning something came from nothing..

  • Bulldog74

    I’ve been saying this for years.

    When I read some of these stories for children that go something along the lines of:
    –“Gee Billy, I’m sorry I told Mom that it was you who ate all the cookies.”
    –“That’s ok, Johnny; I was mad at first, but then I remembered that Jesus told us we should forgive one another.”

    I can understand why kids turn to Harry Potter.

    And as much as I want to support Christian filmmakers, there’s only so much of a poorly written movie with mediocre direction & acting that I can sit through, even though I try to cut some slack for not having a big budget.

    What a switch from the days when so many of the great works of art, music and literature were produced by Christians.

    • Merlinever

      The only thing “great” about films like “The Ten Commandments” was the extent that it went to in order to present a bunch of lies and myths as historical fact embellished by superb acting, great actors, an over-the-top emotionally charged musical score. and exorbitant production costs.

      • Bulldog74

        Mr. Oscar disagrees with you.

        • Merlinever

          Unfortunately, films are not judged on how true to reality they are – just on the quality of acting of the actors, screen writing. production quality. musical scores, etc.

      • sandraleesmith46

        I wouldn’t worry about the production costs as they recouped those and then some. There were some pretty impressive special effects for that time too.

        • Merlinever

          Agreed.
          The special effects in that movie were pretty impressive for that time.
          But special effects were all they were.
          Not the historical facts that so many have forced themselves to believe they were.

    • sandraleesmith46

      It’s not about budget really. Ever watch any episodes of the show “Outer Limits” in the ’60s? They had almost no budget and managed to turn out decent stories, not to mention launching several young actors who went on to long and prosperous careers. What they had was innovative FX guys, decent scripts and good, if relatively unknown actors, who could regularly crank out fun and interesting shows every week with a bit of imagination and ingenuity, and adaptability. If they could do that on a shoestring, why can’t it be done now too? The Bible has some excellent stories that could be done.

      • Rich2741

        Many excellent “Hollywood” movies have already been made –

        The Bible, in the beginning
        The Ten Commandments
        Ben Hur
        The Robe
        Sampson and Delilah
        The Passion of The Christ
        …and several others (I have them all, I’m a big movie buff)

        But, for the most part, were made long ago.

        Unfortunately, these are the end of days and now the garbage will come in waves trying to mock and discredit.

        This movie (Noah) could have been a great, great movie. It was purposefully made a sick, twisted tale that made one of the greatest stories from The Bible look like insanity on LSD.

        • sandraleesmith46

          The movies you’ve listed, with the exception of the Passion of The Christ, I’m familiar with, and know that, with the exception of The Ten Commandments, don’t follow the Scriptural stories closely at all. The Robe and Ben Hur were wholly fictionalized tales spun around Biblical times in the life of Christ, into which He was woven as a character, but NOT the Person presented in the Bible. Sampson and Delilah was, again a good movie, good cast, but far from the scriptural story. And that farce The Bible was nowhere near the truth of the Scriptures. De Mille’s first run at the Ten Commandments was more fictionalized as well, in the ’30s, but he remade it in ’56, and stuck closer to the scriptures, except where they weren’t explicit as to the events that shaped the people and those he also fictionalized. Hollywood has never, to my knowledge, actually made a GOOD movie from the Scriptural standpoint. They’ve made good entertainment with a Biblical theme for the most part. De Mille came closest, so far as I can see.

          • Rich2741

            All the movies I listed are fine depictions of a message that are in-line with the word of God, and were more than just mere entertainment. (I would say I know a bit about ‘entertainment’, as I have over 2,000 DVD’s/BD’s movies at home)

            You probably didn’t catch any spiritual message at the end of the movie “Contact” either; and how Jodie Foster now had to admit that there may be things never to be ‘known’ to man, but which did not make them false simply because you could not ‘prove’ them to be.

          • sandraleesmith46

            Contact is at least honest enough to not pretend to be a Biblically based movie; and yes I did catch that, among other lessons involved. I didn’t say they weren’t good entertainment; they are! I said they didn’t hold true to the Word of God very well, and distorted His message, an action He explicitly disapproved,

          • Rich2741

            I know -what- you are saying, but I do not concur. These fine movies did not change the -meaning- of what was to be relayed. Yes, I understand not -one word- is to be changed, but then again there have been a minimum of 43 different iterations of The Bible to date, just in English alone! How about the Sixth Commandment; “Thou shalt not kill.”? At an absolute minimum, that should read “Thou shalt do no murder.” There is a HUGE difference in meaning between the two.

            And if you want to get really crazy, every Bible should be printed in the several original languages (none English) they were cobbled together from. No? What about 86 books versus 66 books?

            There is a modern production called “The Bible: Epic Mini-series”. I read dozens of good reviews and ordered it on Bluray. It was horrible! Talk about garbage and not sticking to the story! It was an insult to people who knew The Bible, I had to stop watching it barely into the first disc.

            No, I am very thankful for fairly accurate, very moving, fine films depicting messages of God and his word. I dare you to find a producer that would portray all the defeated Philistines having their genitals removed as ordered by God on screen, but that would be depicting it to the letter, no?

            This movie “Noah” was a slap to The Word; and it was meant to be that way, to insult and mock. If I had known that I never would have watched it.

      • TexasJester

        I remember some of the actors in those Outer Limits shows — Leonard Nemoy,, William Shatner, DeForest Kelly — who went on to make another low-budget sci-fi show that was pulled after 3 years, because of low ratings: Star Trek. ( I also think Jack Klugman, who went on to do Quincy, M.E. in the late 70s, was on Outer Limits..)

        Great show!

        • sandraleesmith46

          Bradford Dillman was another, Martin Landau, Jack Klugman was there too, yes. and many many more. Yet that show succeeded without big budgets, and launched a LOT of talent as well.

  • picnicfun

    Love it! Especially the last word on “House of Cards”! I never followed before Doug Giles but I will now. You have more than half a brain! Thanks for writing this.

  • Hudmar

    Don’t you think that this picture might spark the curiosity for more people to read the actual story in the Bible.

    • Medic01

      It will embiolden disbelief in His Word, Hudmar.

      • Vincenta

        God is weeding out the wheat from the chaff.

        • Rich2741

          Now that is a funny and interesting comment! But I think it would be unnecessary as he would know the hearts and minds of all.

    • Merlinever

      “Don’t you think that this picture might spark the curiosity for more people to read the actual story in the Bible.”
      I hope this movie does inspire people to read the whole Bible – carefully:
      “The Bible properly read is the greatest promotion for atheism ever created”.

      • sandraleesmith46

        If you had ever actually read the Bible properly, you might KNOW better than you do now; but clearly you haven’ and won’t do so yourself so it’s pretty hypocritical of you to advocate it in the negative.

        • Merlinever

          If you had ever actually read the Bible properly, you would know how foolish you have just shown yourself to be.
          The only negative things I have written about the Bible are the verifiable truths that you and so many others are unwilling to see or to admit.

          • sandraleesmith46

            You’ve used the myths of your religion of “science” which are no more truth than the other myths, but NOT proof against the Bible and God. Too many of us have had experiences that defy other explanation but His hand in our lives, and which you refuse to accept because you do not WISH to believe, which is your choice, but why do you feel so compelled to deny what we believe? IF God didn’t exist, in fact, you’d be more foolish than Don Quixote; at least he was tilting at windmills!

          • Merlinever

            News Flash!
            Science is not a religion.
            A religion is by definition belief in a divine or superhuman power or powers to be obeyed and worshiped.
            Science is by definition systematized knowledge derived from observation, study and experimentation carried on in order to determine the nature or principles of what is being studied.
            And, FYI, there does not need to be any “proof against the Bible and God”, there only needs to be proof that the Bible is verifiably factual and that God exists – and there is none.
            Now, stop all your religiously inspired babbling, relax, and maybe read a good book; I suggest Sam Harris’s “The End of Faith”.

          • sandraleesmith46

            Science is most definitely a religion in which “man” is the deity and it’s far more inconstant and in flux than FAITH in God will ever be! But you keep worshiping at that alter and God will require that of you as well.

          • Merlinever

            How typical of a believer; you ignore the dictionary definitions of words so that you can substitute your own wildly subjective and totally incorrect definitions born of your religious fanaticism.
            Or…as Carl Sagan said, “You can’t convince a believer of anything; their belief is not based on evidence, but on a deep-seated need to believe.”

          • sandraleesmith46

            Just because YOU refuse to recognize the truth and learn what actually constitutes a religion, especially the one you follow is not my problem. Every human has a “hardwired” need for some one or some thing to be superior in his/her life and you are no exception, unless you’re denying you’re human! That’s something I learned from SECULAR psychology, not ” religion”, but I did learn how to identify and recognize what is or isn’t a religion in someone’s life, also from a secular institution, specifically the U of IA, decades ago. So don’t blame what I choose to believe for your refusal to admit to yourself what is truth!

          • sandraleesmith46

            News flash: science most definitely IS a religion, different from FAITH in the Creator of the universe; in which “man” is the deity, and which is so inconstant as to require far more “blind” faith to believe than believing God ever will! As for you “not needing proof” of the Bible and God, THAT PROVES your religion IS science!

          • Alex M

            The difference between science and religion is that science can be proved wrong, and religion can’t.

            Science depends on evidence. Religion does not.

            Science converges. Religion does not. This is why there are relatively few competing scientific theories, and a multiplicity of religions, wildly different and somehow all claiming to be authentic.

            Science works. Religion doesn’t ; it merely offers a comfort blanket to those who can’t make sense of a material universe.

          • sandraleesmith46

            Science works???? Have you taken a look at the whole “global warming” religion lately? Back in the ’70s we were “headed into an ice age, if we didn’t stop”, and don’t even get me started on Darwin, or the planet that isn’t a planet any longer, etc. Science IS a religion every bit as much as Buddhism,Shinto, Hinduism, etc. The difference between it and faith in our Creator is that HE doesn’t change with the winds of social expectations or because some new thing comes along! As for being proved, the PROOF is all around you, every single day; including your very own existence! That you choose to not see it, or to not attribute it to Him is your choice, but one you will eventually answer to Him for making, as is every other choice each of us makes.

          • Alex M

            Science does work. It also has the ability for self-correcting, since science that cannot be replicated by others fails. This is why science converges, and religions do not. It’s why theories improve, and religion still can’t make up its mind about the most fundamental aspects of its own world.

            Science can and does make mistakes, and will make more. But it’s open to checking and verification and disproof, which is why we no longer hold that combustion is caused by the release of phlogiston, or that heavier objects fall faster than lighter objects, or that time passes at the same rate at all velocities. Religions can’t even agree on whether there really was an Ark with pairs of every species.

            Science works. When you take a flight in an aircraft, you don’t power it by filling it full of prayers. The computer you are using to connect to the internet and this forum isn’t powered by prayer, or religion. Science.

            Religion doesn’t work. You can’t demonstrate the existence of God (circular reasoning and Appeals to Incredulity don’t work). Religions can’t even agree on the contents of their ‘holy books’, and they are still arguing about when the end of the world is supposed to be. It’s the same with prophecies, every religious age predicts the same prophecies being fulfilled at different times. They can’t agree on whether God and Allah are the same being, or which of the other thousands of deities that have inhabited human history exist or don’t exist.

            Instead of appeals to reason, religions just appeal to threats of horrible punishments for infidels.

          • sandraleesmith46

            You’re speaking of the RARE examples of REAL science, which are as RARE as true FAITH, as opposed to the “junk science” that gets passed off as “science” which is what most people follow, not the real deal, and it compares quite “favorably” to religion, which gets passed off as Faith, with very similar results; try learning the differences in both instances, you’ll be better off for it, since real science and faith are NOT incompatible. BTW as a pilot’s kid, I happen to know that there are times when prayer IS indeed the only element holding a plane in the air, and you have NO idea of the prayer that keeps this thing connecting to that internet! Not wise to make assumptions. Also, the effects of prayer ARE measurable on PET scans, and other instruments of modern medicine, as well as in psychiatric testing.

            You’re lumping “religion” with faith, which is like declaring apples and oranges the same because they’re both tree fruits, yet they’re very different, in truth. Generalizations don’t work. Neither does junk science.

          • Alex M

            Real science? Physics, chemistry, geology, biology, medicine, cosmology, quantum theory, relativity theory, take your pick. It all works.

            It’s the determinable laws of physics that hold aircraft in the air, not prayer. If prayer held aircraft in the air, what do you reckon happened to flight MH370? Passengers not praying hard enough?

            Science works. Prayer doesn’t. If prayer worked, all abducted children would be found safe and well. There would be no need for Megan’s Law, and abductors would be found struggling in deep water with a millstone. Prayer doesn’t work.

            If prayer worked, people with life-ending diseases would survive, and they don’t. If prayer worked, there’d be no need for health services or hospitals. It doesn’t.

            The most you can expect from prayer is consolation value, which can be as real as the consolation value of a lucky charm or a teddy bear.

            In the unlikely event that we’re found in the same plane, hurtling groundwards, and there is but one parachute and one prayer book, I hope I’d be gentlemanly enough to offer you the prayerbook first.

  • Fred

    Went to see Noah today, it was unbelieveable. Worst movie I have ever seen. Rock people helped Noah build the Ark, Noah’s emeny stowed away in the Ark. Twin babies were born in the Ark and Noah wanted to kill the babies. Animals were killed by the emeny. Noah had what looked like an Army survivor knife and on and on. If I had a choice between watching Noah again or an Ass-Whipping, I would take the Ass-Whipping.

  • johnnyu

    don’t go they will lose million’s and hollywood will get the point …one thing about hollywood you lose money no matter how good actor or director they will show you the door real fast….. it’s all about the money …and guess there will not be a a noah 2 or 3

    • Merlinever

      You……you mean……there won’t be a Noah 2 or a Noah 3……?
      I’m crushed!
      Just crushed!!
      I was looking forward to seeing a transvestite Noah resplendent in designer robes.
      Or a Muslim Noah showing us all what a wonderful religion Islam is and how much it cares for animals…

  • Medic01

    Any producer who is afraid to use God’s name in a production cannot be trusted to get the story right.

    • BillMM1

      Before you criticize taking “God” out of the Noah story, put God’s name back in the Bible, where it has been replaces over two thousand times, and replaced with “LORD” (Large capital L and small capital ord.) LORD does not = Jehovah.)

      • sandraleesmith46

        Most often in the Hebrew it’s either Yhwh or Adonoy {also spelled Adonai in English at times}, but there is NO question as to Who is meant by the title/appellation! BTW in Strong’s you can find either Yhwh as #3068 or Adonoy as #136, in the Hebrew dictionary in the back.

      • Rich2741

        BillMM1 –

        “God” (but not “god”), “Lord”, “The Lord of Hosts”, or “Yahweh” (is Hebrew for “Adonai”, which means “Lord”, which is also connected to “YHW”) are completely acceptable. His actual name is unpronounceable (216 characters long in the Hebrew alphabet from Exodus 19, versus 19 – 21*) and as such, the Jews refer to this as “the Ineffable name” (“Sheim ha-meforash”).

        “Jehovah”, technically, is actually incorrect as the letter “J” (the very last English letter created) was not created until the 1500’s AD, so it could not have been that name from the last time a person in the Bible talked with God. Where “Jehovah” comes from is an anglicized version of “YA HO WAH” from “YHW” which is spoken as “Yahweh”. “Jehovah” originated in Spain when Jews were being driven out.

        Additionally, “YHVH” is from “YOD HEH VAU HEH” and means “He who is” (read from right to left in Hebrew). It represents the consonants of God’s name, the tetragrammaton of God’s real name.

        * If you’re interested I’ll give you the instructions on how to decode it.

        • Medic01

          I could not have said it better, Rich 2741.

          • Rich2741

            Thanks. People should know everything they possibly can. Given or received, just make sure it is accurate, then we all win.

    • Merlinever

      Any producer who makes a film designed to present a Biblical story as historical fact is the worst kind of liar.

      • sandraleesmith46

        I REALLY want to see you explaining that to God when He’s judging your life on this Earth, and HE will be doing so!

        • Merlinever

          What you wrote is based on the ridiculous presumption that God really exists – in spite of the fact that there is not, nor has there ever been, a shred of proof or evidence to support his existence.

          • sandraleesmith46

            To your “blind” eyes, “deaf” ears, and “closed” mind, there would never be sufficient proof, and God well knows that as well. That’s why I want to watch you explaining that to Him

          • Merlinever

            Yours are the eyes that are closed, the ears that are deaf, and the mind that is shut to reason.
            There will never be sufficient proof because there never has been any.
            And thank you but I’ll never be explaining anything to a “Him” who doesn’t exist.
            Now, why don’t you grow up, stop talking to imaginary people, and stop believing in fairy tales.

          • Medic01

            There will be “sufficient proof” when you kneel before Him on Judgment Day, Merlin. Whether you believe it or not. Whether you like it or not. Whether you care or not.

          • Merlinever

            There will never be “sufficient proof”, or any proof at all, when you think I will kneel before a “Him” who doesn’t exist.
            So……… when exactly is this “Judgment Day”?

          • Medic01

            That you deny His existence does not make Him go away. You’ll find that out One Day. When is Judgment Day? When God decides.

          • Merlinever

            There is no need for me to make Him go away; He never existed in the first place.
            Now I have to admit that I love the way you answered my question about when Judgment Day would be; you stated that this event (not supported by any proof or evidence) will take place when a God (for whom there is also no proof or evidence) decides.
            Perfect circular logic.

          • Medic01

            Only to the caliber of closed-mindeness your exude. (I didn’t think you could come up with an argument about the reality of the non-empirical.)

          • Merlinever

            empirical: relying or based solely on experiment and observation…
            non-empirical would be the opposite of that.
            So if something is believed without experiment (testing, critical examination) or observation (seeing if the belief is supported by the observable facts), you believe that it’s still real?
            WOW!!!

          • TexasJester

            There is equal evidence that God exists as that He does not exist — NONE. This is why we have something called FAITH. You say that thinking God exists is a “ridiculous presumption” — I say thinking He does not exist is as ridiculous a presumption.

            And no, I’m not a Christian — I have my own beliefs, just as you have yours. I, however, am NOT trying to force my beliefs on anyone, as you are; nor am I trying to belittle anyone for their beliefs, as you are. I have respect for their faith, because I want respect for mine. If you want your faith to be respected, respect others’ faith. (And yes, atheism is a faith — you have faith that there is no God. You have no proof that He does not exist, just as the Christians have no proof that He does exist.)

          • Merlinever

            TexasJester. Well at least you got the Jester part right.
            The evidence that god exists — NONE.
            Case closed.
            Thank you.
            And faith is, by definition, belief in things for which there is no proof or evidence. So people who proudly claim that they have fait fully deserve to be belittled; they’re idiots.
            And no, atheism isn’t faith in any form nor does it require it; if you looked the word up in a dictionary some time, that would be a nice touch.
            Oh, and you can’t prove a negative……in case you haven’t figured that out by now.

          • Medic01

            We’ll see whether the case is closed. And so will you. In no uncertain terms. Actually, it is a “case” you do not have the authority to close. At any rate, your adolescent name-calling will be useless to you then. And yes, a negative can be proven … by using a positive to annihilate it. .. as has been done your entire argument. And I am done. You may have the last word (and I am certain you will go for it.) Goodbye.

          • Merlinever

            So now here come the threats – though thinly veiled – offered as a pathetic attempt to intimidate the person who has challenged beliefs not supported by any proof or evidence.
            Any honest person of average intelligence who is still capable of independent thought and has their power of reason intact has the “authority” to close this case.
            Religion is a very fragile thing; it can be destroyed with a wiff of reason or the slightest touch of reality”.

          • Rich2741

            Nobody is a threat to you… except the big guy at the end of your line.

            Uuuuh…. No. BUT, you could prove us wrong by taking a loaded pistol and placing it against your forehead and….

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

          • Merlinever

            The more you write…the more certain I am that there is a padded cell with your name on it……or an empty jar on a shelf at the Smithsonian Institute waiting for you…

          • Rich2741

            The more I type, the more your buttocks take on a rosy-red glow as you are schooled again and again.

          • Merlinever

            So you seem to be obsessed with my buttocks………
            Hummmmmmmmm……
            It doesn’t sound like you’re exactly the poster boy for healthy heterosexual men now, are you……

          • Alex M

            “BUT, you could prove us wrong by taking a loaded pistol and placing it against your forehead and..”

            Alternatively, he could try to prove you right by taking the same loaded pistol and placing it against your forehead and …

          • Rich2741

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

            If he has the power of God to reach right through the surface of my monitor… he has my permission to try.

            P.S.: Your retort sucked.

          • Alex M

            If he had a pistol and was minded to do it, he wouldn’t need your permission …

          • Rich2741

            By reaching through the monitor?

            Oh please, you’re just a moron. Go play with your water-pistol fantasies while adult spank the atheists.

            P.S.: Your retort is not only stupid, but now it’s boring.

          • Alex M

            Ah, you’re the one who’s doing the reaching through the monitor thing and introduced the pistol fantasy thing.

            But ‘moron’, I think you could have me bang to rights. And that’s the nicest thing anybody’s said about me today.

          • Rich2741

            Quote: “BUT, you could prove us wrong by taking a loaded pistol and placing it against your forehead and….”.

            No mention of a monitor or Godly powers anywhere on my part.

            Posts made here do not constitute ‘physically reaching through a monitor’.

            I’m glad you are appeased. Please exit to your right.

          • Alex M

            “No mention of a monitor or Godly powers anywhere on my part.”

            Oh.

            If he has the power of God to reach right through the surface of my monitor… he has my permission to try.

            First mention of godly powers and monitors in this entire page. By Rich2741.

          • Rich2741

            “No mention of a monitor or Godly powers anywhere on -MY- part.”

            “MY” as in “ME”. No mention of “ME” reaching through the monitor or having Godly powers.

            Wow, how stupid are you?

          • Alex M

            That’s right. You mentioned him reaching through your monitor with godly powers, and giving him permission to try.

            I merely remarked that if God’s existence could be proved after putting a loaded pistol to a forehead, it applied to you too.

            Why you introduced godly powers and a monitor, is perhaps something only you know. It’s your secret. Everybody should have a secret. It adds an aura of mystique, an air of mystery. How clever are you?

            (But you’re right, I’ve always felt I was somehow stupider than I’d care to be. I’ve never been troubled by false modesty.)

          • Rich2741

            So, you have concurred that your retort is an empty cup of flatulence, overflowing with the sweet smell of… Methane.

            Well, there you go; asked and answered. Truly an enigma presented… from the man without a clue. Let us know if you ever need assistance with working that fork while eating chicken broth in your mom’s basement..

            (Yet you continue to take to the field of battle having no weaponry whatsoever. Good move sparky.)

          • Alex M

            Not that I’m of a pedantic nature, you understand, but if a cup is empty, how can it be overflowing?

            Don’t tell me, it’s a secret …

            (But if I ever need instruction on using a fork to eat soup, I’ll be sure to call on you.)

          • Rich2741

            “Empty” is a relative term. In common parlance, dust, droplets, air, and vapor have no relative impact on the holding capacity or weight of the cup, yet are still there… in the empty cup.

            …Watch how I keep this idiot in suspense.

            (You do that. I’ll be waiting for the call tonight.)

          • Alex M

            I guess “overflowing” is a relative term too.

            I looked at my soup bowl, and what d’you know? It was overflowing with emptiness.

            Dang, nothing there for the fork to get in to.

          • Rich2741

            Wrong again Alex.

            Nope. “Overflowing” specifically indicates that the upper edge of a containment vessel has been breached in an outward fashion by some substance. Example: “The vapor of the liquid nitrogen seeped up and over the edge of the container, overflowing in horror movie fashion.”

            I’d check your with your doctor on that one. LSD is bad for you.

            Really? Maybe it’s because your soup bowl is actually void of retrievable substance. Keep trying though, or you could take another hit of acid and speed things up.

            Man, did you swallow a bottle of stupid pills today or what?

          • Alex M

            Ah, right, so empty is a relative term, but overflowing is not? I guess that a term that isn’t relative is absolute.

            So, a heart overflowing with kindness has an upper edge that has been breached in an outward fashion. Need to find out if kindness is like “nitrogen vapor”, or perhaps more viscous.

            Gosh, I’m learning so much today. Who needs stupid pills with such exemplary pedagogical excellence on display?

          • Rich2741

            Correct.

            The example you gave was of a ‘poetic’ nature, not technical. Nice try, and thanks for playing sparky.

            Either you are extremely bored and have unlimited time, or are extremely lonely and like being a real pest.

            Either way, it really is time to say Adios or Adieu Alex!

          • Alex M

            Oh, I hope it’s just au revoir.

            I’ve been called a pest, and even worse, though relatively harmless. But you’ve alleviated my boredom, for sure.

            Kind regards,
            Alex

          • Medic01

            Once you’ve opened your mind enough to accept the non-epirical is as real as the empirical you will then have the foundation to expand your obviously limited thinking and think outside the box, Merlinever. Of course, God cannot be proven but neither can He be disproven by any means available to man. Let me present the following to you. Prove to me you have ever had a pain. Or a thought. They are each as real as the sunrise and I suspect you have had both but you cannot prove either. You can detect on fancy machines some electrical activity assumed to be associated with pain or brain activity but there is nothing to prove the electrical activity is due to pain or a thought.

          • Merlinever

            I never cease to be amazed by the way believers always ask those challenging their belief in God to provide proof that God doesn’t exist.
            Of course, one cannot prove that God does not exist for the simple reason that one cannot prove a negative.
            You couldn’t prove, for instance, that there isn’t a tea pot orbiting our sun.
            However, asking for proof that God doesn’t exist is an attempt to dodge the fact that the burden of proof is on those who claim that God does exist – not on those who claim that He doesn’t.
            “What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.” Christopher Hitchens.

          • Rich2741

            You intellect is just dizzying! ROTFLMAO!

            Christopher Hitchens… HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

            Biggest perverted wanker on the planet! Wow, did you pick the wrong moron to act as your cut man!

          • Merlinever

            Just curious.
            What do you actually know about Christopher Hitchens?
            And a moron???
            Next to Christopher Hitchens, you’d make a pet rock look smart.

          • Alex M

            “God cannot be proven but neither can He be disproven by any means available to man.”

            This means therefore that God is, from the point of view of existence proof, no different from Zeus, Odin, or Mengidabrutkoel, the great spider-god of the Pacific.

            You’ve as much reason to believe in Apollo.

          • Rich2741

            Hey Melmen,

            Did you love your mommy? Prove it. No, I mean actual, physical proof. Empirical proof.

            No? OK, It just must be a fantasy you have in your head then, and if you say you do regardless of no proof, then you are nothing but a big fat liar of the worst kind. Right?

          • Merlinever

            Uh oh!
            Your religiously inspired rambling is getting way out of hand.
            Time for your medication…

          • Rich2741

            Merlins-gonna-burn,

            I guess you didn’t like that question, eh?

            OK, let’s try a different one then.

            Prove to us you’re not playing with your self right now. And yes… having the dog lick the peanut butter off your privates counts.

      • Medic01

        …in your opinion.

  • Merlinever

    “If Christians are going to rally against Hollywood…”.
    Hey kids:
    Hollywood is about creating and selling fantasy.
    Religion is about creating and selling fantasy.
    All religions are founded on myths and lies.
    Since the story of Noah is in the Bible and the Bible is clearly a work of fiction, what’s all the uproar about?

    • Vincenta

      I know you are wrong? ask yourself, how many people do you know who would willingly give up their life for a lie?

      • Merlinever

        You believe that I am wrong because you were indoctrinate with religious nonsense by your parents (just as they were by theirs) when you were a very young child and at an age at which we are hard-wired to accept anything and everything that our parents tell us without question or critical, objective examination.
        As for “how many people do you know who would willingly give up their life for a lie?’, anyone who holds a strong belief that they have held since early childhood might willingly give up their life for it because they have never questioned it and don’t know that it’s a lie.
        “Philosophy is questions that may never be answered; religion is answers that may never be questioned” Author unknown.

        • Rich2741

          Merlinever is back! Hey folks this nutbag thinks he is the great wizard of atheism!

          Merlinever go rub your ‘crystals’ together and show us your magic ‘fountain’! Just don’t get anymore on your head, it’s white enough already!

          • Merlinever

            And so……Rich2741, the guy who keeps saying he’s gone and keeps coming back like Dracula from the grave, who never has anything intelligent to say and never seems to tire of proving it.

          • Rich2741

            I never said I was gone… you freak.

          • Merlinever

            With all the religiously inspired, mindless babbling you do it’s hard to imagine how you could know what you’ve said.
            And talk about a freak; what’s with the blind man’s dark sunglasses?
            Trying to look tuff?
            Or just afraid of being recognized?

          • Rich2741

            @ Merlins-gonna-burn

            I know exactly what I’ve said, apparently you don’t understand English very well, so maybe if you read it again Mary – “I never said I was gone… you freak.”. Did you get it that time?

            They are an item that people wear to protect their eyes from damage from the Sun; they’re called “sunglasses”.

            Why would I want to look ‘tuff’? To scare you? HAHAHAHAHA, I could scare -you- by shouting “BOO!”

            You apparently recognize me, so if that were the case, I’d say it isn’t working, eh sparky? (It’s the same exact picture that is on my book, except we all know you can’t read, so that can’t be from where you remember me.)

          • Merlinever

            You……you mean……you actually wrote a book……?
            WOW!!!
            I bet it must be a great work of comedy……though certainly not by your intention…

          • Rich2741

            I know, I know people hate your guts… but I took pity on you so you could have at least 1 E-mail in your box.

          • Merlinever

            I assure you there is no shortage of e-mails in my inbox. Especially from people like you who get so angry when I tell them the truth that they aren’t ready to hear and can’t admit.

          • Medic01

            Whose “truth?” Yours? A great awakening is in store for you, sir. I just wish you would open your mind to the real Truth before it is too late. But if you do not, it is your choice.

          • Merlinever

            “The truths of religion are never so well understood as by those who have lost the power of reason” Voltaire.

          • Rich2741

            …and just how did your great and powerful founder and leader of atheism die? Just how is she remembered?

            Right. I thought so.

            There is your ‘truth’.

          • Rich2741

            Merlins-gonna-burn,

            I know Myrtle, it must be embarrassing having no friends, but just think, you’ll always have that dead squirrel occupying that empty cranium to keep you company… even if the only sound you get out of it is that of slithering maggots.

            Angry?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I’m not angry with you my little Merlot head, I just think you’re a lonely masochistic twit with daddy issues. What you -need- to think about, as far as anger goes, is the big man at the end of your journey. This time he’s gonna use fire, not water, and this time it NEVER EVER STOPS.

            Calm down Melba toast man, I have nothing but truth on my end. BTW, you might want to stock up on 10,0000 degree Kelvin sun-block. It’ll help with the transition… for about 2 seconds.

          • Merlinever

            Rich-in-ignorance2741: You showed your anger (which you continue to deny) in the infantile insults and threatening alteration of my site name you spewed in the first paragraph of your last reply
            Well, I guess it must be hard for a person who insists in believing in lies and myths to do anything but engage in dishonesty.

          • Rich2741

            Oh dearie… you are so demented. When is the last time you visited your shrink? …or has he just moved away with no forwarding address?

          • Merlinever

            The dementia is all yours. Of course, as demented as you are, you wouldn’t be able to see that or have the presence of mind to seek help.

          • Rich2741

            Merlin’s-gonna-burn,

            Riiiiiiight. Good boy, calm down, keep sucking on that….. thumb.

            Go peddle the ghost of your decapitated and minced-meat leader Madelyn Murray O-Hair elsewhere.

            Tell us, what was her atheist son William’s thoughts on all of this in the end? Was he still an atheist? What did he become? Pray tell, answer us oh great wizard.

            BTW, how would you feel about September 28th, 1995 being recognized as a national HOLY DAY (holiday)? We could implement it starting in good old Austin, Texas and work out from there, in ‘little pieces’ if you will. We could toss little candy-corn teeth into the air in celebration of the death of the wicked witch of the west. Is it too close to Halloween, or does it sound like a plan?

            Let us know! We’re waiting on your answers.

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

          • Medic01

            I, too, am a published author, Mervin: Handling of Radiation Accident Patients by Paramedical and Hospital Personnel, 2nd ed. It is a textbook.

          • Merlinever

            Well…good for you!
            And congratulations for writing about something real and providing information that will actually help others.
            Of course, I wouldn’t want you to get too high up on a horse about being a published author; there are a lot of published authors.
            Remember, Adolf Hitler and Carl Marx were published authors too.

          • Medic01

            While I (and you) am a mere speck in His shadow, God is a “published author”, too.

          • Merlinever

            What exactly are you saying that God (who never existed) wrote?

          • Rich2741

            Medic01,

            That’s interesting, as mine is in a similar vein (technical)… a 585 page E-book dealing with technical nomenclature.

            …and yet here we are, proposing truth to a dullard that can not understand the concept of ethereal, that all things in reality are not automatically provable.

          • DrBobNM

            Medic/Rich touche and good for you. Merlin has zero ability to see anything past his limited knowledge of science. The boundary between the ethereal and cutting edge science is fuzzy indeed.

        • Bulldog74

          Maybe you were indoctrinated with atheist nonsense by your parents, or by some professor when you were an impressionable young freshman.
          As for “how many people do you know who would willingly give up their life for a lie?’,

          the question should have been better phrased as “how many people do you know who would willingly give up their life for something the KNEW to be a lie.?’ The writers of the Gospels would have more properly fallen into this category.

          • Merlinever

            The writers of the Gospels lived in a time and place in which superstition and ignorance ruled and when everyone thought that the world was flat.

          • Bulldog74

            Not so, they lived in a Hellenistic world in which the Greeks had figured out the circumference of the Earth to a remarkable degree of accuracy ,and the Romans pulled off feats of engineering that we would be hard-pressed to match today.
            Nice try.
            BTW, why do you get your knickers all in a twist over something that’s not real? I don’t believe in Ganesh, but you don’t see me railing against him on Hindu websites. I guess atheists must have a lot of time on their hands, yours must be about half the postings on this thread.

          • Merlinever

            BTW, I don’t have any knickers.
            But I do get very worried when so many people believe that things that aren’t real are; that’s called delusion.
            There’s nothing more dangerous than large groups of stupid people.

          • Bulldog74

            ….yep, as the sad story of 20th century (atheistic) Communism illustrates.

          • http://www.mattrowleyguitars.com MattStratt

            It is offensive and extremely closed-minded to call people of faith “stupid”. No doubt that does not bother you. I was prepared to offer you a lively debate, in the interests of both of us. I am not going to bother.

          • Merlinever

            Might it be that you’re “not going to bother” because you know that you have no argument?
            And there is nothing closed minded about calling people stupid who believe in things for which there is not, nor has there ever been, a shred of proof or evidence.
            The description, “closed minded” fits believers to a T.

          • http://www.mattrowleyguitars.com MattStratt

            Refer previous entry.

          • sargeant rock

            To argue with those who have no understanding will
            always prove fruitless my friend..

            The bible is and has been the most proven books in
            the world through the ancient manuscripts as well as archeology and continued new discoveries…

            The Romans were neither “ignorant” nor stupid people by any stretch of the imagination and the events that took place
            during the time of Christ are well documented in their writings outside the bible. History itself records the destruction of God’s temple by the Roman general Titus in 70 AD. But to those who refuse to believe facts when presented, are as Paul wrote foolish, they are not worthy of serious discussion…

            The apostle Paul was a lawyer and member of the Sanhedrin. Luke was a doctor and Matthew a tax collector. None of these men were “uneducated” or “steeped in ignorance and superstition” However, as we have seen, ignorance does run rampant today….

            1 Corinthians 1:18
            For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God..

            1 Corinthians 1:21
            For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe…

            1 Corinthians 1:23
            but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling
            block and to the Greeks foolishness,

            1 Corinthians 2:14
            But the natural man does not receive the things of the
            Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

            1 Corinthians 3:19

            For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their own craftiness”;

            End of discussion…

          • http://www.mattrowleyguitars.com MattStratt

            Devils advocate speaking…: Israel circa life of JC was incredibly advanced in comparison to most Roman occupied territory. people at the educational level of the writers of the new testament were most likely fluent in Hebrew, Aramaic (as Christ was), Latin and Greek. Hardly uneducated, yes?

          • Merlinever

            It matters not at all how many languages the people who wrote the Bible spoke. The Bible was written in a time and place in which ignorance and superstition ruled, allegory was extremely popular, and science had not yet found answers to questions about how the world worked that religious people answered with nothing but wild imagination and wishful thinking.

          • grumpy

            If the world is so screwed up despite the presence of our faith in God, imagine how screwed up it would be if nobody had faith, and all was permissible? So keep it up Merlinever. You and all the other atheist idiots. You’re doing the work that is necessary for the elite to take control of you. When the evil elite has finished destroying all hints of faith, they will steal the position of God. All God-given rights will become null. Your only rights will be what the elite deem appropriate for you. You will be a slave. Then you will wonder “what in the hell happened?”.

          • Merlinever

            If nobody “had faith’ there would be a whole lot fewer delusional people in the world and we would definitely be a lot better off.
            Faith, I hope you realize, is by definition belief in things for which there is no proof or evidence.
            So the real idiots are those who cling to faith as if it were some great and wonderful thing
            There is no “God-given” anything; God is just a myth, and no different from the myths of Zeus, Odin, Allah, the Tooth Fairy, the Boogey man, or the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

  • jzandensky

    Hiding don’t getter done. Kiwitcherbithchen
    Go forth and guide.

  • sandraleesmith46

    While I agree totally that we do need to get involved, when musicians did so back in the ’80s, instead of them influencing the world; the world rubbed off on them with that racket that is straight from the mind of Satan himself! The one that causes serious agitation in those even moderately susceptible, raises both adrenalin and cortisol levels in ALL who listen to it, and leads often to hearing loss and tinnitus as well, among other stress-induced ailments down the road. So might I suggest, before you go running off to save Hollywood, you make sure you’re sufficiently well grounded in the Word to NOT fall prey to the influences in which you’ll naturally be immersed there? Otherwise, what we’ll get is more “Jesus” movies that take out half the real story and present only the PC versions anyway.

  • Rich2741

    I saw this movie last night. DO NOT bother, it is a piece of junk that makes Noah out to be insane, has ‘rock monsters’ (Watchers) protecting and fighting for him, makes him out to be a baby killer, has a bad guy sneaking onto the Ark and plots with Ham to kill Noah, has 6 (not 8) saved souls on the Ark, and was so revolting I didn’t even bother watching the last 10 minutes and left the theater. They had Methuselah dying not a week before the flood as the Bible states, but from the flood. They had everyone running around in rough but modern-made boots and clothing. It was wrong on sooooo many levels it was pathetic. Shame on Russel Crowe and Anthony Hopkins for signing on.

    It is actually an affront to Christians, Jews, or anyone that believes in The Bible. I believe that is exactly what it was meant to be, and to further, through this false depiction, that people that believe in God are crazy, and here is the story they believe in.

    • http://www.mattrowleyguitars.com MattStratt

      I hear your objections. I ask only this: Do you believe the biblical account of the flood, as it is written?

      • Sunny

        I do.
        I decided to go and watch Noah opening night…before the reviews.
        I am a Believer who went with two unbelievers. I managed to stay through to the end, but was uncomfortable. The story was rewritten, as Rich points out, on many levels. I knew liberties would be taken, but this version missed the biblical mark on every level…every level important to a Christian that is. You see, the two I went with thought it was just fine…”not as exciting as The 300 part 2, but didn’t stink.”

        • Rich2741

          I also understood there were going to be ‘liberties’ taken… but I NEVER imagined this!

          And that is a major part of the movie… It was purposefully made that way to indicate that this is essentially the story Christians and Jews believe in… and therefore we are clearly disturbed and violent loonies.

          Strangely, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone harms the atheist who put this together.

      • Rich2741

        Yes; as long as we are talking about from the original texts (no translation errors).

  • http://www.mattrowleyguitars.com MattStratt

    As a white African, I am so happy to see that the USA still produces Christian journalists of this caliber … I am floored. Good on ya bro.

  • John Stratemeyer

    Can’t wait for the “Alone, But Not Alone” DVD to come out. I think I read that it’s due in August.

  • Robert M. Anderson

    My wife and I went to see the Movie “Noah” yesterday afternoon. I found it interesting that the movie theater was packed with middle-aged as well as elderly folks – not the typical movie audience these days. After watching the movie, I came home and, after fixing myself a drink, opened my Bible and reviewed the applicable passages in the Book of Genesis to compare the events depicted in the movie versus the description in the Bible. As expected, the movie deviated from the Scripture on several points and an “environmental” agenda was inserted into the movie in place of the wickedness of man as the cause for GOD’s destruction of the world. While disappointing, it was not unexpected – this was a movie made in Hollywood after all, so what did we expect? For me, the movie caused me to go back and read the Scripture version and compare that to the movie. I would say that was a positive outcome wouldn’t you? Unfortunately, the comments that I have seen regarding this movie on Facebook and particularly to Mr. Giles’ post on the site “Americans for America” have focused on the negative aspects of the movie and have railed against the liberal, left-wing, anti-Christian folks who dared make such a movie. Many of the comments were just as far right of center as the people they vilified for being left-wing anti-Christians. Folks, what is wrong with you? In reading these comments, reflecting back on the movie, and reviewing the events as described in the Scripture, it seems to me that many so-called Christians today have become intolerant of other the views of other and are ignoring the teachings of Christ. In his post, Mr. Giles makes a point that it is up to us, as Christians, to spread the word and railing against the system is not the answer. This movie has presented the Christian community with a rare opportunity to educate people on the Bible, encourage them to read the Scripture and formulate their own opinion as to the Biblical events in questions, thereby starting a dialog – rather than condemning something you haven’t even seen. Perhaps this is one reason that Christianity is waning worldwide, because people who espouse themselves as Christians are far too busy pointing out the so-called “factual” errors in movies such as Noah, rather than taking the time to educate people on what the Bible says and the importance of the Scriptures to humanity. So far, I have only seen one comment that suggested that the movie could be an opportunity to start the dialog referenced above rather than polarizing the issue of Judeo-Christian religion further. In my view, many Christians have become way too narrow-minded about religion and spend far too much time arguing about the finer points of scripture rather than trying to walk in Christ’s footsteps. In simple terms, it is their way or the highway – that not what the Bible teaches. It seems that we may have lost our way and are rapidly becoming just as radical as those whom we vilify for being, what we characterize as, non-Christian. Need I remind you of the atrocities committed through time in the name of religion. If you don’t want to go see the movie, that’s fine – but be careful when criticizing something that you have not personally experienced. While there were things in the movie that clearly were not accurate, there were also scenes in the movie that gave rise to questions. As Christians, we need to keep an open mind in an attempt to understand things that are often beyond the comprehension of mortal man. GOD works in mysterious ways and we can not presume to know how GOD communicated to Noah, how Noah accomplished a feat as great as building the ARK, etc. – so, for me the movie raised questions, which forment both thought and discourse. Some of you should try that. Fundamentalist Christians may never agree with the more progressives in the Church, but that’s OK so long as you demean others because they don’t see things exactly the same way as you. You would think that we would have learned that lesson by now, but apparently we have not and the chasm is getting wider and deeper by the day due to intolerance within our own ranks – it is always easier to divide and conquer from within. In closing, suffice it to say that I was appalled by the comments coming from folks who claim to be Christians. While I don’t believe that religion is dead yet, it is dying and if the Churches and their parishioners don’t take a more pro-active role in revising our image, then our religion and way of life will die a slow and painful death – and we all know what follows.

    • William Hudson

      ” In reading these comments, reflecting back on the movie, and reviewing the events as described in the Scripture, it seems to me that many so-called Christians today have become intolerant of other the views of other and are ignoring the teachings of Christ.”

      The peceding statement seems to be the crux of your post, however you proceed to freely give your “unbiased”, middle of the road opinion while at the same time reprimanding those who would identify with the label “Fundamentalist Christians” for daring to present their own views within the context of God’s Holy Word. There are key elements in the God’s Word that are not open to interpretation–two of them being in the words of Christ, “I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me (John 14:6), the other being “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life (John 3:16). I have heard “so called Christians” state that those who believe Jesus Christ is the only way to God are displaying the intolerance you speak of. Our Lord is not a fence straddler–He is Truth, and He tells us that He would rather we be cold or hot, because if we are lukewarm, He will vomit us out of His mouth. (Revelation 3:15-16) When discussing the Holy Scriptures, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a narrow interpretation of verses that are unambiguous, even to the non-believer-verses such as Matthew 7:13-14-“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

      When God’s annointed leader of the Israelites, Moses, approached the burning bush in the wilderness, God had him stand back and remove his sandles, because he was standing on Holy ground. And THIS is the crux of my post. Too many people today are approaching Gods’ Holy Word (and in effect the Lord God Amighty, Himself) in a trivial, superficial, deceptive manner and many professing Christians are making apologies for them if not embracing their views. Self-professed atheist, Darren Aronofsky, has approached God’s Holy Word in this manner, and it is a travesty that believers would encourage other believers, as well as non-believers, to assist in the financial success of such a project. I reminds me of the “useful idiots” referred to in the Marxist handbook.
      Incidentally, true Christianity is not in decline around the world. Christians in other parts of the world are currently being martyred in increasing numbers for refusing to compromise their faith. Yes, as the Bible tells us many in the last days will fall away, or compromise or interpret God’s Word in a manner that tickles their ears, but God’s Word will never return void.

  • ktrush

    Try this Biblical entertainment on for size: http://makinglentmeaningful.com/lance-and-veil/

  • William A. Bullard Jr.

    Well done Robert M. Anderson,
    We went and watched the whole move from start to finish. My only complaint? the cinema lead ins and leaders and ubiquitous “cell phone” warnings: 45 bloody minutes!!!! no wonder the multiplexes are losing money. Genuine faith is politically neutral. The role of religion is not only to preach care [not how to care] for the poor, destitute, and defenseless and provide for them from the residue of our personal excess for that is something we can all agree on. It is also to preach/teach those things that are hateful to the spirit of the age; otherwise we risk losing our Souls; we become the image of Tubalcaine in the movie.
    No cinematic production is ever correct: no Charlton Hesston ever looked like Moses anymore than Jesus Christ looked like Max Von Sydow. The point here is that the various cinematic productions risk inevitably becoming a caricature of the culture that they rise up out of and John Huston’s portrayal of Noah in the 1960s extravaganza “The Bible” is as eccentric as it is an Agatha Christie Miss Marple comedic parody.
    The Bible will always remain a quaint fairy tale story for the “Atheist” as it is a lightening rod of belief for the observant Jew and practicing Christian. If there is “no heaven” for the one by implication there is a heaven for the other. And, I as a believing JudeoChristian refuse to pray for heaven for the Atheist for that would be uncharitable of me as “Heaven” would be very “Hell” itself for the Atheist, rather than the “Nothing” to which he so earnestly desires. For, “Nothing” in the end is what Tubalcaine Noah’s chief antagonist believes in.
    The producers of Noah took some liberties with the Torah account of Noah in Genesis; all artists do; they reflect the culture of their age. What cannot be argued is that they departed from the general outline of the story; they did not. They did not engage in a heresy. Interpretations can be made about ‘global warming’ or sociopolitical inferences drawn from cinematic imagery. In the end the viewer who draws such distinctions is as guilty as the Nazis of prewar Germany who insisted that an 8X10 portrait of ‘Der Feuhrer’ be present on the Altar tables in Catholic Churches during the celebration of the mysteries of the Mass. Religion, and practice then becomes shallow and sterile, subject to modernity, fad, an streams of spun poling data.
    It is as easy to infer from the desolation of cinematic landscapes, the moral and spiritual desolation/s that exist within a culture as potentials that are finally expressed as actualities. These interpretations are as individual as the viewers seeing them before them. What cannot be argued, either way “Green”,or not is that God was any with humanity and did seek to destroy it. That is understood from any plain language of the texts of Torah.
    The viewers, ‘Fundamentalist’ or Hip Green, miss the point and reject the beauty of the House because they cannot agree on the base molding trim. This is typical of people who do not know what they do not know or who are intentioned miscreant malfeasants.
    The point to the story is that “Salvation” writ large in Messianic prophesy or writ in small script as in Noah is a matter of personal effort and there is a direct personal relationship that exists between God and a man.
    Noah and Tubalcaine are identical though polar opposites. Noah is drunk with his apocalyptic vision of divine destruction and will seemingly suffer No personal considerations in completing his tasks; Where is the free will?
    Tubalcaine sees himself as “made in the image and Likeness of the Creator” but suffers no personal considerations that conflict with his free will. His Right is His Might; there are no miracles he says so. If only Tubalcaine has free will can free will be said to exit at all? Where is Free Will?; Noah and Tubalcaine are identical, to a critical point.
    In the end Noah blesses his granddaughters and spares them the sword because he has finally come to understand that mercy, and compassion in instances are necessary elements of the law for the law to mean anything that is humanly acceptable. His wife even tells him if he kills his granddaughters his name will be cursed for generations for ever.
    At the end of the movie God is reconciled to Man and makes Man understand in a back handed fashion from the original curse a different perspective; man will still have to wrench his living from the earth but all living things shall be in fear of him and that there is a distinctly divine but human beginning to ethics and human law. “..who so ever sheds a Man’s blood by Man shall his blood be shed…”.
    Russell Crowe distinctly gives a uniquely human dimension to a character that for far too long has been little more than a caricature at best. Crowe makes the viewer be Noah and understand that Salvation while possible is greatly more probable if Man becomes and active agent with God and not only says “…I believe…” but show his faith by actively working for it.

  • redrover

    Another way to discredit the Bible, God and all that is truth! It is rubbish as usual that the world turns out to try and make faith in God a joke. Well the joke is on the people whom insist on trashing that which is good, real, honorable, moral and of faith. The evil that has arisen in today’s world is unprecedented and of the end times. People need to accept that there is an end. There will be no more that will EVER be decent, good, and real when evil try’s to take over. Evil Lost when Jesus died on the cross; for all sin, for all people, for all time, period!!!!! Hollywood could make so much that is beneficial and helpful in movies etc. for mankind, but they have seemingly lost their collective creativity to put out anything that is good or helpful anymore! They are some of the most deviant and debauched people there are- with lots of money to boot- which makes them toxic! I feel bad for the real, good and decent actors that truly care about their craft and being in movies that have a healthy, moral and real message;….but then that would be too easy!

  • William A. Bullard Jr.

    Well, ‘redrover’ I see that you’ve come up with nothing concrete but lecture the rest of us [who may happen to differ with your version of ‘Salvation’] and that you are ‘the only true believer’ left. Hmmmmmmmmmm! are you the new Noah?! You blather like it; the old one knew what he wa doingan saying at least from the movie. I also see that since you haven’t contradicted the text of my last that you basically agree with Me?

  • William A. Bullard Jr.

    Come to think of it; you didn’t even see the movie did You; just listen and puked a lot. You sound as bad as the ‘Environmental Church’ of what’s happening now.,, peculiarly inferior to the purposes of a serious conversation.

  • John H

    You make some really good points. As far as Christians getting involved in the mainstream entertainment industry, my cousin goes to this university in San Diego called John Paul the Great Catholic University. Their whole goal is to impact culture through film and media with inspiring, skillful stories. I thought you might be interested to know – it’s http://www.jpcatholic.com if you want to read up on them.

  • robertleo

    Think of the Oscars. The film Noah was not design to bring Americans closer to God. It’s an epic action film with special effects bar none. When the time comes for me to
    see this 100 million dollar spectacular I will enjoy it as entertainment. There are many today even Christians who don’t believe that this event actually happened as they also don’t believe that God could not have created our world in six literal days. We now have the opportunity to witness to the truth about Noah if anyone should ask and bring to light another event that will be more spectacular. In the meantime let us ready those who will
    be seeking truth after watching another Hollywood fantasy.

  • William A. Bullard Jr.

    Crowe’s soliloquy on Genesis is spectacular and is very touching. Let us agree to disagree here; of course this is Hollywood. As, I said in my first presentation these things are always presented in the terms of the prevalent culture they occur in. They will be faulted to a degree. For the lack of perfection is that the argument for not doing anything at all? That is the standard liberal screed regarding the Constitution, death penalty issues, abortion issues, for the very existence of God, you name it. We as believing Christians as ‘conscientious conservatives let “them” control the field of argument when we keep our mouths shut and say nothing because what has been presented is “faulty”?! ‘NOAH’ is already a success, as faulted as it is, because it has provoked discussion. Was the world and firmament created in six days? I don’t know; the prevailing evidence say otherwise. What did the authors of Torah mean by a ‘Day’? There is a war involving words here. Prevailing scientific evidence also shows that absolutely nothing in either fauna or flora evolved; why? because there are absolutely no evolutionary subspecies showing the occurrence of an evolutionary subtype of “ANY” of the present species of fauna or flora. Rather the biological and paleological record points to mass extinctions followed by the wholesale appearance of completely new types. So, is the Biblical recount of “…six days…” really not thoughtful or uneducated? who is to say the believer of such is any less authentic or intelligent in his faith? You?!

  • CK

    “When they morph Moses into some ganja smoking Rastafarian or something”. Please, please don’t give them any ideas…

  • pearl87

    I can’t respect the tone of this article nor the suggestion that we should all just embrace Hollywood’s profane interpretation of scripture until we have something better to offer. AND into the bargain Mr. Giles thinks that whatever gets put out there by Christians had just better be up to HIS standards. Forgive me, Mr. Giles, but I think your arrogance has finally propelled you over the top and you are officially one of the most annoying bloggers on the planet. Between thinking you’re funny and proclaiming your opinion as the source of all truth, this article struck a very sour note.

    • DrBobNM

      that isn’t what Doug said. I believe he was saying that Believers need to go out into the imperfect world and speak out to correct the inaccuracies of movies like Noah. In the process, we might be able to be fishermen and make a difference.

  • Bryant Lopez Whosoever

    Good article of how the Noah movie isn’t based on the Bible Noah

    http://drbrianmattson.com/journal/2014/3/31/sympathy-for-the-devil

  • Erin Ashley Hedges

    How is it this hard for you people to accept the fact that the movie was made for entertainment value? It’s not meant to be totally true to the original story. It’s supposed to be entertaining, not informational

  • Linda Lewis

    Mr. Giles: You don’t impress me with your sarcasm and arrogance. My twenty-something nephew said the movie was so outlandish even as a sci-fi flick, that it was plain stupid. The producer made a mistake to call it “Noah;” it should have been called “The Climate Change Man.” More appropriate.

  • Hutch King

    Just as competition is the essence of natural selection, the competition found within free markets brings out the best in people while motivating them to create new things, make better things, and be more efficient.

  • Medic01

    Rich2741, we have planted Seeds in Merlin for Jesus to nurture if Jesus choses to do so. We have taken up enough of ClashDaily’s valuable space. I am outa here. Good to e-know you.

  • Rachel Rudd

    Congratulations on defending a shoddy film with a flimsy storyline and more than confused characterizations. I’m sorry if that comes across as rude, but, sir, you must admit that you were just as dismissive of those who object to the film in the premise of your article.

    This movie really is wretched, and it embarrasses me how many Christians defend it just so they can look sophisticated and open-minded. I don’t remember Christ calling us to that, but rather to be people whom the world scorns if necessary. I hope you take another breath and realize that just because fundamentalists react in ignorance doesn’t mean you have to support a media mocking the Church. Pax.

  • George Surname

    Fantastic movie, one of the greatest films of all time, don’t listen to these ignoramuses.

  • Daniel Barbour

    “Well, slap my mama.”? I never heard that one before.

  • Daniel Barbour

    I am not watching any porn movies either. Does that mean I am not able to make any credible comments unless and until I watch porn?

  • chuckles

    The problem with your challenge is Christians don’t have the money nor the know how to make a Godly movie. One only has to look at the struggle Mel Gibson had with the “Passion”. The scripts was right out of Luke and it was even in Aramaic so people wouldn’t say “he took liberties”. Mel’s life was made a wreck. He got a crap storm from every angle. He couldn’t even get theaters to show it till he PERSONALLY made it happen. Usually you have help of some sort. The devil and his minions fought it all the way. There aren’t any Christian directors, or producers, or money men to make it happen. Kirk Cameron comes to mind, but other than him, almost nobody you’ve ever heard of. Casting Crowns has a home church making pretty good quality films using church member actors.
    I can almost assure you that if you hired Johnny Depp, or Tom Cruise to make a Christian film, they would either insist on changing the script, or they would take a walk.
    The biggest weapon we have is DON’T SEE THE FILM. Buying tickets proves they are right to do what they do. If Noah opened to about $1500 and was pulled after 2 days, the next film would be “Jesus Returns!” with Billy Graham as a consultant. If you just can’t stand it, wait till it’s free on Fox Movie Channel to see it. Also, when you do get a good movie, GO SEE IT!!!!! God’s not Dead is a good movie and I will be going to see Heaven is Real when it opens.
    Just a thought,……..What if a movie came out about Sodom and Gomorrah that showed they were all killed by God for sodomy? The other side would boycott and burn theaters.

    • AlexM

      ” One only has to look at the struggle Mel Gibson had with the “Passion”. The scripts was right out of Luke and it was even in Aramaic so people wouldn’t say “he took liberties”. “

      The Passion was almost a good picture. Scripting it in Aramaic and Latin wasn’t a particularly dangerous device, since the story is so well known that it might equally have been a silent film.

      The difficulty with Gibson’s The Passion is that the viewer, after watching the relentless and unremitting violence leading to the crucifixion, is left asking, ‘Why?’ Why was this man subjected to such a torrent of violence and torture, so intense that, even though we know it’s a theatrical fiction, is nevertheless repulsive ; yet there’s virtually nothing in the film to explain what he has done to bring such a visitation of brutality upon himself. Months after watching it, all I could remember was the hail of beatings and scourgings and the blood. In the pursuit of ‘authenticity’, the film ended as nothing more than a triumph of form over content.

  • lowCal90

    As many have noted, “we tend to stumble upon establishments which are the result of human action but are not the result of human design”.

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