About the author: Doug Giles

Doug Giles is the Big Dawg at ClashDaily.com and the Co-Owner of The Safari Cigar Company. Follow him on Facebook and Twitter. And check out his new book, Rise, Kill and Eat: A Theology of Hunting from Genesis to Revelation.

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  • RhondaOR

    Know one no’s what Jesus said and everyone no’s that men have changed the Bible hundreds of times throught the ages. Get real. We do no that God is love and This is a hateful post. Step into the future Giles.

    • Ms Harriet

      God is love and justice. If you believe that He is love you must also believe the other side of the coin–that He says what He means and He means what He says. And I doubt anyone who has actually studied the Word of God will have their opinions regarding the validity of the Bible altered by the scholarly musings of someone who doesn’t even know the difference between “know” and “no” and refuses to recognize the difference between hate and truth. Ms Rhonda, He’s either all He says He is or none of what He says He is. Can’t have it both ways. Whether we choose to accept that or not does not change who He is or what He’s said.

      • TexanKingsKid

        Amen, Ms Harriet!! Well said!!

      • Rattlerjake

        RhondaOR doesn’t know how to spell throughout either.

    • Candy Gwen Lopitz

      If the article is hateful, then Jesus was the one who was hateful because the author simply restated what Jesus said. Gotta love how ppl think they can just dismiss anything away these days by labeling it as “hate speech”.

    • Duddioman

      If what you say about the Bible is true, then there is no way for you to know that God is love. What if men screwed that part up as well? =/

      Honey, it is by faith we believe if God could make the whole world, that He could keep his word intact despite the frailty of man. Don’t use God’s name and then discount His holy Word.

    • http://theawakenednation.ning.com/profile/KevinMKeener Snowman8wa

      Wow….1st Marine’s command of the English language is contagious. Missed the day they taught the difference between “no” and “KNOW”, ya may want to backtrack to the 20th Century when they actualy taught ENGLISH in school.

      As for your ignorant comment about “stepping into the Future” GOD is CONSTANT—The same today as then. GOD doesn’t conform to MAN…..We are expected to CONFORM to GOD’s WILL…….ya may want to break that Book open before making foolish ignorant responses of something you know nothing of.
      Stop falling for the false teachings of the wicked.

      Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis

      • TexanKingsKid

        Hebrews 13:8

        New International Version (NIV)

        8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

        • http://theawakenednation.ning.com/profile/KevinMKeener Snowman8wa

          AMEN! With that, regarding this subject, goes the verse that immediately follows v.8; Hebrews 13:9 states:
          “Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.”
          Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis

    • herdzcatz

      Rhonda, If someone attempted to molest or harm you, God would hate that. He does not want you harmed or molested. He would not be pleased at all with anyone who tried to hurt you. Homosexuality is not His invention. He has stood in opposition to it without deviation throughout the ages–not because He hates those who dabble in it or who think they have that gene–but because of how it dehumanizes people. That’s why He hates adultery, rape, and everything else that harms souls. This does not mean He hates the perpetrators or those who engage privately in dehumanizing themselves; He sent Jesus to bear sin on the cross so you and I and everyone else could be free by faith in Him. Jesus did not come to re-categorize sin, just to set us free from it by shedding His blood on the cross.

      • russmohr

        herdzcatz – Jesus was crucified to free mankind from the sin of death, we are all responsible for our own sins and need to repent for them. He also came down to earth to teach and preach so that we will be well equipped to lead the straight and narrow path to everlasting life. Yes Jehovah/Yahweh, the Father hates adultery, rape and homosexuality and will punish all who do not change their evil ways and repent. His day of Armageddon is fast approaching and all must take heed and live according to his word, the Bible or be destroyed.

    • Memphis Viking

      Really? Everyone knows that? How? Where you there? Did you witness this changing? Or are you just claiming that to rationalize ignoring the parts you don’t like?

    • krdave

      Rhonda, you are still full of it. I don’t even KNOW what you mean by the punctuation, unless you just don’t KNOW the difference. You seem to be on Kirsten Powers side instead of Doug Giles, so I KNOW you are wrong.

    • WesTexan

      Such ignorance is shameful. You should be embarrassed. No one has “changed the Bible.” It has been translated into thousands of languages and dialectics. It is and always has been based on ancient texts that have never “changed.” The most original of texts remain extant and available in many forms and are easily accessible to all who care about God’s written word. Whether Aramaic, Hebrew or Greek, as three important examples, they have not changed, faded or morphed. Your poor excuses are based on profound ignorance. Correct English spelling and grammar might be a good place for you to start.

    • http://www.facebook.com/john.barrett.188478 KSJeffersonian

      In the 1960s,God was somehow deprived of every attribute but love, so we have absolute proof of this change. It was within my memory.

      Beginning in the mid-1960s, God was no longer the God of the Old Testament who, due to sin, evicted Adam and Eve from the garden and provided that they and their posterity would die, destroyed humanity with the flood, destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, ordered the Israelites to kill all the inhabitants of Canaan, allowed the Israelites to be taken captive.

      Beginning in the mid-1960s, God was no longer the God who declared throughout the Old Testament and through the writer of Hebrews “without shedding of blood there is no remission [of sin].”

      Beginning in the mid-1960s, we no longer recognized that Jesus (“God with us” or God in flesh) talked more about hell than about heaven. People did not accept that Jesus was quite clear that accepting Him as Savior, required us to also accept Him as Lord, meaning that we have to obey the substantive Law. People did not accept that Jesus said that those who practice lawlessness would be condemned to hell.

      Yes, God is love, but He is not one dimensional, and He demands obedience to His laws, particularly by those who wish to be known by His name.

  • Audrey Russo

    Brilliantly stated, Doug…we’re surrounded by Posers. ..as if God is fine with what they redefine. I John 1:10

  • Janet

    Homophoibic.

    • LeftistsStink

      Great term. I love it. LOL

    • Joe Bob Jim Bob

      Todd ?

  • LeftistsStink

    The best article I’ve ever read,
    that explains, in depth, the Christian view of
    homosexuality, is entitled “Hey, Dad, I’m Puzzled” and starts on p.1778
    of The Founders’ Bible, David Barton. I haven’t been able to find it
    posted anywhere on the internet. I wish Kirsten Powers would read it.

  • art arlo 1

    Kirsten Powers is a grinning joke. Just another liberal fool.

  • Hammer

    Powers is nothing but a closet muslim and married to one to boot. I’m sure there is a coran on the night stand that she reads every night. My take is if you can’t procreate it’s not marriage…PERIOD…

    • chuckles

      She converted BECAUSE her husband was Christian.

    • johnnycab23513

      I celebrate Kristin Powers conversion. She came from the depths of the hate filled liberal hell to believe. Sure, she has a lot to learn, as do we all, but I so enjoyed watching her as she began to grow in Christ, before she publicly announced her conversion. I pray she keeps growing in Christ.

      • GramE

        I celebrate her conversion -if that it was. She has so much to learn about Christianity – I wish she would just be silent about it until she is a little more learned. She is leading new Christians astray.

  • 1st Marine

    I no you’re just kidding me. I just no it. Hahaha
    You most likely never read the bible based on your command of our language you most likely wouldn’t understand it anyway. I would be willing to meet and read together and pray for God’s hand on our understanding while we lean not on our own.
    1st Marine

    • Dave the Rave

      Hey, First Marine: Speak of command of our language :) the word is KNOW, not NO, unless you have a hidden meaning.

      The Old Corps Marine

      • tgp

        He was quoting her.

    • http://theawakenednation.ning.com/profile/KevinMKeener Snowman8wa

      “You most likely never read the bible based on your command of our language you most likely wouldn’t understand it anyway….”

      What language would that be? just curious……..

      “I no you’re just kidding me. I just no it. Hahaha…”

      Is it the educated language of someone who cannot discern the difference between “KNOW”—(To perceive with certainty; to understand clearly; to have a clear and certain perception of truth, fact, or any thing that actually exists.)

      and “NO”—(A word of denial or refusal, expressing a negative, and equivalent to nay and not. When it expresses a negative answer, it is opposed to yes or yea. Will you go? It is frequently used in denying propositions, and opposed to affirmation or concession. “That I may prove them, whether they will walk in my law, or no.)

      From a 3rd Marines Marine……..

      Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis

    • Duddioman

      Marine, you should have responded to the post below her comments. Now everyone thinks you are talking to Doug instead of clueless Rhonda below. ;)

    • tgp

      Dude, apparently sarcasm this early in the day is dangerous. I got it.

  • HuskerHunter

    Leviticus18:22. All I need to read.

  • desert dweller

    This dimwit better read the WHOLE Bible…especially the part that talks about the “abomination” of male and male or female and female! She can claim to be a Christian, but until she follows Jesus’ words…she is NOT…She can stand in a garage and claim to be a volkswagon too, but it won’t happen!

    • Dexter L. Wilson

      By their fruits ye shall know them, what about yours! She has a transformation testimony, do you?

      • garysvent

        Her “fruits” include misrepresenting the tenets of Christ; how ’bout yours?

      • WesTexan

        Unfortunately, her “transformation” has sent her off the rails. When one is born again, it doesn’t happen so you can spend your time trying to twist the Word of God to make it seem to agree with sin, especially the most egregious of sins, the one for which God has destroyed cities.

    • garysvent

      No rear-mounted, air-cooled engine? Really?

      • Thomas Sharp

        LOL

  • Tagdogs

    Not sure how or why this woman and some others consider her a “well educated” person, when she opens her mouth and says such ignorant and stupid comments. She strikes me as being a “typical” blonde bimbo!

    • Winston

      There is a name for them, “intellectually stupid”.

    • Dexter L. Wilson

      Ignorant, how about the fact that the lifespan of same sex individuals is lessened by 20 years (we tell people not to smoke because it reduces the lifespan by 10 years). Did you know that in same sex households that violence is at least 10 time more than in heterosexual households. They are subject to increased venereal diseases, increased subjection to cancer. The children are affected negatively. I am not going to pull out the stats but you could find the stats from a book called Christian Philosophy by Andrew Wommack and these stats are from the LGBT themselves. The stats on the facts about studies done on children of same sex attraction came from large population studies. I believe that these people can be changed. There are too many ministries that have helped such people.

    • chuckles

      She hasn’t been a Christian but a couple of years. She has come a long way from her conversion, but belongs to a liberal church. There are more of Her than we Christians care to admit. As we have been justified, we now work on our sanctification. I have changed my mind in several things as I have been born again since 1994. I bet I could start a big fuss right here by telling people I believe the earth is 5k year old and dino’s walked with men. I would be called a fool by about half the readers here. I chose to believe the Bible in all instances as the Word of God when I became His child. I don’t believe we have the choice of which passages to believe and which to reject. She is just a novice Christian hat need to grow in her love for the Lord. IMO, this is a test that ALL OF US must pass to not be “lukewarm” pew sitters at the last day. I know of preachers that have trouble with believing homosexuality is a sin. They are, as we speak, preaching another “gospel” where sodomy is RAPE and gay marriage is “love”. They are twisting themselves into a pretzel trying to not be called a “hater”. They are building the “church” that has fallen away and won’t receive sound doctrine and long for ears to be tickled. They can’t accept the Gospel of God, but try to invent the God they choose to follow.

      This problem is VERY wide spread RIGHT NOW. Methodists, Episcopalians, Presbyterians, Lutherans, and more have bitten into this apple. Google “gay deacons” and you will see Baptists in Texas have dropped out of the SBC to embrace this thinking. Go to You Tube and look up “Why I changed my mind about homosexuality” and hear a minister lose his church to follow this lie. If the Lord doesn’t return soon, I’m not sure if you will be able to tell anyone is gone.

      As a child, we had what was called “Training Union” to teach newcomers the fundamentals so the preacher could give a sermon on Sunday with meat and not be filled with milk. This principle worked for hundreds of years so a believer could be 30-40 yo and a lay person had the same knowledge as many preachers do today. In the 50′s, Texas taught Bible study in high school that would blow your mind if you read what a senior knew back then.

      Today, we have been completely fenced out of public life and many children don’t even know who Jesus is let alone know any sound doctrine. Grown ups don’t even have a thought about salvation until someone dies, or they get cancer, or a divorce comes. It’s a mess now, but anyone that confesses Jesus as Lord, can give their life to Him and learn His ways. If you just want ‘fire insurance”, it;s no different than it’s always been and they will never accept all of Jesus to rule a reign their life.

      • Centurian2010

        Chuckles, completely agree with your post. I have had a difficult time finding a home at any Christian church in my liberal based city (and state) as too many of them stray from God’s word just to suit that of man. Jesus instructed us to bring the church to the world, meaning the good word to people, not the other way around of sin to the church and their doctrine.

  • B and B

    This is why we need a magisterium, so many opinions .

  • Candy Gwen Lopitz

    No “like” button, but :LIKE!

  • 4lifeandfreedom

    As stated at another time: satan is gaining more recruits every day to take to the fiery pit with him!
    Kirsten is a blonde liberal who actually does have a sane comment once in a blue moon.

    • Dexter L. Wilson

      Kirsten has a Christian transformation testimony, yes she became a Christian. That being said, the most narrow minded individual is a liberal, so you can see she has changed.( The testimony can be found I believe in a Christian magazine through Focus on the Family, called Citizen Magazine, that is how I know about her and Ms. McCovey’s transformations.)

  • Patrick Thomas

    God hated homosexuals. In Leviticus 18 God lays out the sins for Moses. Homosexuality is one of the sins. In Leviticus 20 God lays out the punishments for the sins. For homosexuality God said, “If a man lies with a man as one would do with a woman, then that is detestable. They both shall be put to death. Their blood is on their own heads. So we should follow God’s command and kill all of the queers.

    • Duddioman

      Except that Christ took the death penalty for them so that they could be spared and ‘go and sin no more.’

      We ought rather to tell them of the great Love Christ had for them to die in their place. It was kind of the point of His sacrifice….

      • http://theawakenednation.ning.com/profile/KevinMKeener Snowman8wa

        BUT we HAVE TO GO AND SIN NO MORE…..many fail to GRASP the concept…….it doesn’t say GO and CONTINUE TO SIN, it will be okay in the end………..
        Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis

        • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

          73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9).

          • Many homosexuals admit that they are pedophiles: “The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality” (22).

          • http://theawakenednation.ning.com/profile/KevinMKeener Snowman8wa

            It has been proven that it is a “Lifestyle” choice Brother Ray…the LGBT Agenda cannot survive on its own. The hethrosexual partner is needed to perpetuate the LIE. Left on their own they would perish into extinction and would have thousands of years ago, but EVIL has a way of surviving; GOD uses EVIL to destroy the EVIL that exists in us.
            Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis

        • Duddioman

          Agreed. That was exactly my point. Grace isn’t to be used as a cloak for maliciousness, but as liberty to do right.

          I was just responding to the troll that was trying to make it look like we want to kill gay people if we believe what the Bible says.

        • diskipulus

          When Jesus made the statement “Go and sin no more,” it was an impossible command to obey. No one could stop sinning due to our nature to sin against God. It is only through an act of divine, sovereign grace that we are given a new nature that chooses to not sin but to love God. Let us not forget that the whole of the Law is to love God with all our heart, mind, and strength and to love our neighbor as ourselves. The two are inseparable, and the two condemn us as sinners who love sin until faith in Christ comes to redeem us. This is true whether hetero or homosexual, and such revelation will redeem both.

          • http://theawakenednation.ning.com/profile/KevinMKeener Snowman8wa

            I understand what you state, and GOD even says it in Genesis 8:21 about the evil that is in man’s heart from his youth. But the difference isn’t that you may still sin, but that you WILLFULLY go and do the sins that you have been made aware of and repented; I agree we (humans) are not TELIOS “perfect”, only the Triune GODhead is that.

            However, through THE BLOOD OF CHRIST and by HIS SACRAFICE, we are KATARTIDZO “perfect, which is Greek for being REPAIRED and made stronger. This walk, being a follower of Jesus Christ ISN’T for wimps………….
            Therefore knowing what you consciously choose to do, is a sin to GOD by being taught so through Scripture, which is repentable–if WE DECIDE TO DO SO, yet CONSCIOUSLY CONTINUING to do it is an even WORSE SIN because we now know that it is against GOD. James 4:16-17 states “But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil. Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.”
            We are not here to KRISIS judge you, nor you us, but that doesn’t prevent us from DIAKRINO discernment regarding a person’s actions and not associating with their willful misbehavior.

            “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, WHO HOLD THE TRUTH IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS;
            Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; FOR GOD HATH SHEWED IT UNTO THEM.
            For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; SO THAT THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE:

            Because that, WHEN THEY KNEW GOD, THEY GLORIFIED HIM NOT AS GOD, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
            PROFESSING THEMSELVES TO BE WISE, THEY BECAME FOOLS,
            AND CHANGED TE GLORY OF THE UNCORRUPTABLE GOD INTO AN IMAGE MADE LIKE TO CORRUPTABLE MAN, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
            Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
            Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

            For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
            And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
            And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
            Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
            Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

            Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
            Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.” [Romans 1:18-32]

            Man is Reaping everything that we have sown………

            Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis

    • LeftistsStink

      By “deserving death” in the NT it means not inheriting The Kingdom.

    • Dexter L. Wilson

      Patrick, you know God hates the sin of Lesbianism and Homosexuality or same sex attraction, but not the Person (the sinner) who has been drawn into it. That is why Paul said “so were some of you…” God purchased all of us who were caught up into sin through the Blood of Jesus. Even Ruth Carter Stapleton worked with those who had same sex attraction and helped to deliver many even before this was called Reparative Therapy. Who was Ms. Stapleton, the sister of President Jimmy Carter. She wrote 2 books on the subject before she died of cancer. The same sex attraction crowd are so afraid of this that they created legislation in California and New Jersey to prevent people being changed. They are afraid of the truth that same sex attraction is not inborn. Remember, Paul called himself a murderer. We are sinners in need of a Savior. People’s lives can be transformed. Most people do not try because it involves a Spiritual component, either those caught up in it are possessed or obsessed by demonic forces. How many of you out there are without sin? That being said, since when do we give licenses to sin, marriage licenses? This after thought, did you know that Ms. McCorvey of Roe Vs. Wade was living in a lesbian relationship before two children witnessed to her. Sure it took a while but she became a Christian and has left her lesbian lover.

  • rking111

    The major cause for the great flood was sin and Homosexuality. The story is available for all to read . If you would like to know more about this there is a book on the net at http://www.thewatcherslive.com and http://www.thejudgmentofbabylon.com one book is about how all of this happened then and the other book is about what is going to happen to us for letting this happen today.

    • Dexter L. Wilson

      First of all, the great flood came because “their thoughts were evil continually. Having the advantage of a Creation Evidence Museum in Texas, before the flood the oxygen content of the air was 34%. They were using 100% of their brain capacity and the Earth being designed to allow man to originally live forever, God showed me that he had to dumb us down (15% brain capacity) an shorten our lifespans so that we would destroy the Earth before He could put His savior Jesus Christ in the Earth.

  • tarandfeatherthecrooks

    Sexual sins are of many type. Male/Female out of wedlock, m/f in adultery, child abuse, pornographic, homosexual, even impure thoughts. We all fall short of the glory of God, but He has promised us a way out of temptation if we look for it from Him. The Evil One has blinded those of us who haven’t come under the Grace of Redemption, so it is impossible for them to see the truth. Our call is to speak truth even when it is not received, or not received well. God loves the sinner and hates the sin; following His lead we become like He is.

  • Winston

    There are those who call themselves Christian, but are in name only. They worship another Jesus. They are of the Devil, the father of lies.

  • Snoopy

    When I last read the Bible, it said, “Adam and Eve”! Not “Adam and Steve”!

  • cris

    KP has itching ears……2 Timothy 4:3 “For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.”

  • aaron

    Im not the judge and i love thy neighbor. ..please dont question my love of Jesus

    • Terry Lee

      It is not a question of your love, necessarily, but the practice of that love. And that we are called to judge so as to spur one another on to a deeper relationship with Jesus (Hebrews 10:24-27). Love does not allow another Christian to wallow in their sinfulness but to call them out of it to live a fuller life in Christ. It is far more unloving to allow someone to die in their sinfulness. I am tired of the Christians hate people thing, especially coming from other Christians who should know better. It is not my laws but those of the Good that created you and knows you better than you know yourself. He knows fir what you were made. He knows what is the most fulfilling for you (John 10). As far as judging you really should read all of Matthew 7:1-6.

    • Reader

      One does not have to be a judge to show discernment or good judgment. The command not to judge is one of the passages taken the most out of context and applied with great hypocrisy. What is condemned there is hypocritical judgmentalism that condoned in themselves the same sinfulness (or worse) than they sought to correct/condemn in another.

      Elsewhere, we are told such as:

      “By their fruit you shall know them.”

      “By this you shall know that you are my disciples”

      We are also told, while being told not to drag other Christians before civil courts, but rather to let the Church decide that we shall judge angels and thus should judge disputes with each other rather than taking the complaint before an ungodly government court.

      We also see in Matthew 18 a clear progression of judging unrepentant sin culminating in excommunicating a person from the church. This gets additional support from I Corinthians when Paul rails at them for not so acting against sin in their own midst.

      There is very much more throughout the old and new testaments. When the prophet curses youths for mocking him, God didn’t tell him to stop being so judgmental. God sent angry bears to kill the youths.

      Christian are repeatedly called to use good judgment, and also sometimes judge. Christians are also called to judge themselves by the same standards they use for everyone else, not excusing their own sins while speaking against the sins of others.

      As for homosexuals, I need not judge. God has already judged that sin and every other. I must be wary, though, not to set myself against His judgment. Calling homosexuality sin in each and every case is not judging. It is addressing the sin as God does. If, rather than calling it a sin that must be repented, I call it good and ok, I am guilty of judging God as evil and unjust. I am then also guilty of calling good evil and evil good, which God has openly condemned.

    • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

      There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association (NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is “SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE.” This group can be seen marching in most major homosexual parades across the United States.

      • Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molester, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molester (19).

      • WesTexan

        Comments would be dull without you, Ray. Thanks. And thanks for the research. So many have the right idea but aren’t willing to do the heavy lifting, that is, getting the facts. Thanks again.

  • http://www.facebook.com/john.barrett.188478 KSJeffersonian

    “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.” – Matthew 5:17-18

    The Old Testament is quite clear on homosexuality, and Jesus was clear that the substantive law continues until “heaven and earth pass away.”

    Lets also not forget what Paul, God’s chosen vessel to reach the Gentiles wrote in his letter to the Romans:

    “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

    “Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

    “For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

    “And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness …; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.” Romans 1:18-32

  • Susan

    KP is the product of “operant conditioning” of the public schools (Common Core/Race to the Bottom, etc) which is worse if she watches Hollywood’s Satanic programming which glorifies Evil and Dysfunction to desensitize and normalize abominations. She literally is conditioned to “feel” what is Good and Evil and dispense with the Brain/Reason because she doesn’t read and understand history and philosophy which created the Age of Reason and the USA.

    Cognitive Dissonance is the result of having young children filled with such lies and half truths and conditioning them into instant gratification, where they will never be able to be of Virtue (excellence/Wise)–and work and overcome hardship enough to “Know” Reality. They are Slaves of the Marxists who dictate Right and Wrong and dictate what to “think”.

  • John3:16

    Sadly, Kirsten Powers has the symptoms of a true liberal. It has to be a schizophrenic tendency where there is a disconnect between a self awareness of reality divided by a conscious denial of those same facts. All of the liberals have the syndrome, by observation. It is a complete failure of the liberal mind to connect the dots, even when they know that such a connection exists. It is as though their ideology supersedes any reality. Even more interesting is that almost exactly half of the society dwells in that state of confusion.

    • Michael

      Logic and reason escape a liberal’s mind.

  • Melanie Hancock

    The Bible is so very clear on this subject. I think Kirsten is just a liberal and has to accommodate her political beliefs. They simply do NOT mesh.

  • ron44

    She being a true lib era,l will find a way to justify her beliefs with out checking here facts and sources. If it feels good do it is a syndrome common to the left wing. some times things hurt because they teach you some thing. Life is not all utopian like they want you to believe.

  • Crewmax42

    I used to find her very attractive. The more I learned of the workings of her mind, the uglier she got. Really weird. Now, take Shannon Bream…a beauty with brains.

  • Reader

    I keep thinking that what those pushing the homosexual agenda are looking to find in the Bible is one of Jesus’ classic statements: “you have heard that it was said…but I tell you”. The problem is that such statement is nowhere there.

    • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

      The median age of death of lesbians is 45 (only 24% live past age 65). The median age of death of a married heterosexual woman is 79 (8).

      • Homosexuals are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another homosexual) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide, and 19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident (8).

      • 21% of lesbians die of murder, suicide or traffic accident, which is at a rate of 534 times higher than the number of white heterosexual females aged 25-44 who die of these things(8).

  • lisarichards124

    If God wanted men with men and women with women, why did He give Adam a female, why did God give Adam a wife and not a life partner or gay male to help him garden?

    One: Homosexuality is not God’s creation, He did not make it or give it or provide it. When we rebelled and took Satan’s side, we lost our perfection and became sin and we then gave into all Satan’s sins, one of them being sexual immorality.

    Homosexuality is sexual immorality because clearly states throughout the Old Testament not to commit sexual acts of men with men and women with women and with animals. God condemned such acts.

    Also: Men cannot conceive children, women can, but not by one another. Sorry all you FemiNazis out there, but you do need a man to get you pregnant–or–you need his sperm, proving only a man and his procreation stuff can get us women pregnant.

    Next; Children raised by same sex couples do not grow up in stable environments because children need a father and mother. Boys need a dad to teach them to be a man and girls need mom to teach the girl stuff. Remember those father-son chats, those mother-daughter chats: The facts of life. It doesn’t go well when a single mom has to explain that stuff to her son.

    The American Psychological studies have been recently disproved that same sex-raised kids do as well as kids in normal parenting homes.

    No, I wont apologize for saying normal parenting home. I knew what I was saying and I mean it.

    More studies have been done by medical psychologists and other doctors and sociologists and they’ve discovered that children raised in homosexual environments are molested in high numbers, become sexually promiscuous in higher numbers than kids from straight homes and the dysfunction and identity crisis is high.

    The study done by Regnerus is here and the findings are disastrous to children raised by gays:

    http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study-on-homosexual-parents-tops-all-previous-research

    God set up marriage and family and He ended the debate when He laid down the rules, the ground work, created things. We keep trying to rearrange God and life and creation and we are only creating dysfunctional prison inmates filling our prison system

    • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

      41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (8).

      • Depending on the city, 39-59% of homosexuals are infected with intestinal parasites like worms, flukes and amoebae, which is common in filthy third world countries (8).

      • The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75 (8). [This is a reduction in the length of life by 44% (33/75 = 44%)

      • lisarichards124

        The Regnerus study went farther in its research than than APA by going beyond random medical and psychological studies to a nation-wide, as well as world-wide study, looking at all homosexual families and questioning their children or those who were raised by gays. It was found that those raised by gays more over turn out to follow the homosexual life-style because it is what they were raised under and you learn by action.

        If you have two mothers, you are most likely, according to this medical study, to become a lesbian, the same went for boys raised by gays. Or, the same went for boys or girls raised by either gays or lesbians.

        These kids also demonstrate 50% more promiscuity and molestation.

        The PDF file is in depth and it is shocking and very upsetting, but I was not surprised at what Regnerus found when going deeper into studying this type of living and raising kids. It’s dangerous.

        Also: How can a child raised by homosexuals not mimic that?

        I grew up with a father and mother who are still married 58 years later, very happily, in fact they say they grow happier year-by-year and feel so blessed. They raised us kids according to the Bible and God and that was the center of our home life and it was instilled in us in a loving way–never harsh, because God is love.

        Homosexuality is not love, it’s all about sex and getting off on trying something just to experience or experiment in it, but it will over take the person, because sexual immorality of any form leads to sexual addiction and that leads to a life that goes down hill over time unelss you walk away and give your life to Jesus and live according to the way God created us to live and be

  • krdave

    Great response, Doug. I like to watch Fox News, but they have too many Obama Kool-Aid drinkers on, one of which is Ms. Powers.

    • John3:16

      Even O’Reilly goes over the line with some pretty messed up theology and the next night he will rant in the opposite direction…I think he is in it for the sensational and ratings. I am glad to see men like Charles Krauthammer make him tow the line.

      • SATCitizen

        Charles Krauthammer is great. . .he’s like Charles Schwab. . .every listens when he speaks. . .except the demonrats. . .they of course have the answers to everything.

        • Lugh

          He’s a hideous gnome who want more Americans to die for Israel in the Middle East.

          • SATCitizen

            Your faux god must be even more hideous. . .he wants America to die.

        • SATCitizen

          See. . .told ya the demonrats have a answer to everything. . . .read below. . . .

  • red55bird

    Liberals have been working on destroying family values and Christian believes for over a hundred years, by taking prayer out of school, attacking the right to practice our faith as Christians. Government run schools have now brain wash your child to excepting homosexuals way of life, even when the word of God states this is wrong.

    • John3:16

      You are exactly right…One has to ask “Who would be tryig to erase Christianity and it’s precepts?” The Prince of the Powers of the Air…Ephesians 2:1-3 “1 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins 2 in
      which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the
      prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the
      sons of disobedience— 3 among whom we all once lived in the passions of
      our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were
      by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind.”

  • yaki534

    I am very disappointed in Kristen. While it is her right to believe what she wishes, It still disturbs me that she feels this way and wishes to call herself a Christian.

  • jmortensen

    Can’t get any plainer the that ..Sraight from the mouth of JESUS CHRIST “Our LORD”

  • garysvent

    It’s the new pretend Christianity, where you make up your own rules to satisfy your own peculiar appetites. Kind of like the pretend devotion to the Constitution displayed by Democrats seeking the easy life of political office. Or the pretend devotion to the Constitution displayed by Bergdahl when he was sworn into the military, or the pretend devotion to the Constitution displayed by Prince Jihad when he was sworn in as President.

    Being kind to the sexually confused or depraved is not the same as tolerance. Neither God nor the godly tolerate repeated unrepentant sin.

    • WelderChick

      To not tell someone they have cancer or to pretend that cancer is normal and not life threatening would never be considered a kindness. Any doctor who would do that, thus preventing the person from getting the help they needed would be considered a monster. Sin is cancer of the soul. Christians have the duty, born of kindness to let people know they have soul cancer. If they choose to do nothing about it, that’s on their heads, not ours.

  • John3:16

    As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. – Matt 24:37

    • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

      Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8).

      • 37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism (8).

  • grumpy

    Slippery Slope Christianity. It’s all the rage. Next they will be morphing it a little more and a little more, and before you know it…. marriage is between a man and his goat. There is nothing new to see here. Progressives have used this tactic for decades. They take a little bite at a time until they have the whole thing. Remember when abortion was supposed to be “safe, legal, and rare”. That was not long ago under Clinton. Now it’s “not-so-safe, legal, and available to any little girl at any stage of pregnancy without the knowledge of their parent”. Funny how that inch became a mile.

    • John3:16

      The alter of malock and baal have insatiable appetites. Lord forgive us for allowing our nation to arrive to this place!!

  • Ben Name

    “1. God made them male and female, not male and male.” That would have made us hermaphrodites which would have ruined our species because of all the masturbation.

    • Azsteve53

      I don’t think you are all there. Male and female are needed for procreation, the extension of the species.

      Homosexuality is a species killer

    • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

      50% of suicides can be attributed to homosexuals (10).

      • It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of homosexuals, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us(10).

      • Homosexuals were responsible for spreading AIDS in the United States, and then raised up violent groups like Act Up and Ground Zero to complain about it. Even today, homosexuals account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the United States, which is quite a large number considering that they account for only 1-2% of the population.

      • Ben Name

        “50% of suicides can be attributed to homosexuals (10).”

        Please provide proof.

      • Ben Name

        “It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim”

        Please provide proof.

      • Ben Name

        “Homosexuals were responsible for spreading AIDS in the United States”

        Please provide proof.

      • Ben Name

        ” Even today, homosexuals account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the United States”

        Please provide proof.

        • flodnar

          Everyone Should Know
          These Statistics on Homosexuals

          Frank Joseph, M.D.

          http://sospression.com/2013/03/29/statistics-on-homosexuals/

          • Ben Name

            oh my God, if you are reading Sospression you must believe anything.

            ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

            You’re an idiot.

    • e1313ruth

      You just quoted satan’s version of the creation of man….
      The real version is, .So God created man(kind) in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them-mankind…

      Genesis 1-26 is not about creation..It is prophecy about the making and/or remaking of man…Adam was made into an image like the serpent after he believed the lies of the serpent..-Genesis 3-22.Satan used lies to remake Adam into an image like his own..
      ..
      All of mankind will be remade in the image of God or the image of satan…It is called born again for gospel believing Christians..Satan’s group are those twice dead…Once from Adam and the serpents lies and twice from the lies of Islam….
      The Gospel of Christ gives life and the gospel of antichrist gives death… The gospel of antichrist also denies Jesus is son of god which guarantees death and damnation…

      • Ben Name

        boy, you will say anything to make yourself feel right.

  • Ben Name

    “I’m all ears.” Too bad. I guess you won’t be reproducing in God’s image either.

  • Azsteve53

    The same sex crowd for the most part are now the Godless Christian bigots and self loathing self destructive guilt ridden politically driven fools. Christians are a convenient straw man for their rage at themselves and their failures in life.

    Same sex marriage is NOT about marriage, it is a political drive for special rights and power, nothing more.

    • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

      Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports that 43% admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts are one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film “The Castro”, one minute stands) (3). Also, it is a favorite past-time of many homosexuals to go to “cruisy areas” and have anonymous sex.

      • 78% of homosexuals are affected by STDs (20).

      • The Los Angeles Police says, “30,000 sexually abused children in Los Angeles were victims of homosexuals” (10).

      • Ben Name

        “Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports”

        Which study?

        • H. Wells

          Who cares about “studies” either way Ben? Stats can be used to prove anything no matter how wrong it might be. The truth is the Holy Bible calls homosexuality sin in several places. The Holy Bible says not one positive word about homosexuality. The Holy Bible is replete with references to marriage being between one man and one woman. The problem Christians have with homosexuality is the un-biblical insistence that ‘our sin is really alright’. It is a simple case of we don’t want to give it up became it pleases us. Christians would/should have the same stand against those insisting other sins are okay. The refusal to acknowledge the sin makes it impossible to seek forgiveness for the sin. The refusal to seek forgiveness keeps God from forgiving, as He will not force Himself upon us. God loves you Ben. Gay or straight, God loves you. Study His word and let the truth set you free.

          • Ben Name

            SO you are calling Ray a liar too. Good to know.

            I don’t care about the bible when people are spitting out stats. If Ray had made comments about the bible then I may or may not have made a comment.

            Why are you telling me God loves me? What of anything I have said above makes you conclude that you should let me know God loves me?

          • H. Wells

            I tell most people God loves them. Why? Because it is true and is worth repeating.

          • Ben Name

            Is it true? If God loved everyone then there would be no problem getting into heaven. All the bad people would be overcome by God’s goodness that they would simply forget their evil ways.

          • H. Wells

            Would that it were so. People reject God’s love due to their own selfishness. They want God to be their own personal Santa Claus who keeps his mouth shut and passes out the goodies of choice. Much like they reject the invitation to a party because the host is not serving alcohol. They reject a God who has an unchanging moral standard based upon His personal holiness and omniscience. God invites, but does not force attendance.

            But, you do have one almost valid point; there should be no problem getting into Heaven. All one need do is accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. It is the “Lord” part that most reject, preferring to be their own “lord”. God loves everyone – so much He lets them choose whether to love Him or love self.

          • Ben Name

            But faced with God’s great love should cause them to turn toward bliss and forget their wants and desires.

            “They want God to be their own personal Santa Claus who keeps his mouth shut and passes out the goodies of choice.”

            That sounds a bit judgmental and God is the only one who should be judging. Why do you care what other people choose to do with their freedom? Why do you feel the need to enclose them in your structure of living? Why do you feel you need to control God’s bidding?

          • H. Wells

            While I can appreciate your apparent need to make yourself seem bright and witty, you should at least follow a logical argument and not fill your own rebuttal with contradiction. You make the spurious claim that I am being judgmental then close your post with three clearly judgmental questions. (Provide one whit of support to your claim that i am doing what you suggest.) By those and previous comments of yours, I can only assume you are a very young and inexperienced person.

            As for people not judging, try reading John 7:24.

            And finally, regarding your comment about people being Involuntarily changed by “God’s great love…forget(ting) their wants and desires”, you conveniently ignore the demonstrated human condition as well as the teachings of the Bible.

            I have no desire to play your little game further Ben. It lacks any value. Should I choose to engage in a battle of wits, just for the sake of a battle of wits, I will choose an armed opponent. Have a good day young fellow.

          • Ben Name

            ” You make the spurious claim that I am being judgmental then close your post with three clearly judgmental questions.”

            No, I am trying to better understand your point of view. If you see them as judgmental then that’s your problem.

            “…I can only assume you are a very young and inexperienced person.” Assumptions are usually made by judgmental people.

            John 7:24 is about appearances. What part of your appearance have I wrongly judged?

            “….you conveniently ignore the demonstrated human condition as well as the teachings of the Bible.”

            No, it’s not relevant to my point.

            “I have no desire to play your little game further Ben. It lacks any value.”

            Ahhh, you started this whole direction with your comment about God where it didn’t belong. I’m obliging your need to have this discussion.

            ” Should I choose to engage in a battle of wits, just for the sake of a battle of wits, I will choose an armed opponent.”

            Ahh, witty jade’s trick. errr, good one. You are clearly the more intelligent person here and showed me who’s the boss. Enjoy your free time.

      • Ben Name

        “Also, it is a favorite past-time of many homosexuals to go to cruisy areas”

        Thank God that straight people don’t have there areas too…..oh..shoot!

        • SATCitizen

          All sexual immorality causes disease(s). . .but we can thank those who tell the kids to do what makes you feel good and sue your parents if they speak out against sexual pleasure. But then, satan mocks all that God creates. . .homosexuals and those who fall for the lies are all pawns.

          • Ben Name

            First of all you have completely missed the point. But no worries, I don’t really care. You are representing your fellow “christians” well by no addressing the fallacy above.

            Moving on, why did God make my ejaculations feel so good if sex wasn’t meant to be pleasurable too?

          • SATCitizen

            Of course you don’t care. Sex was meant to be pleasurable between a man and a woman, so not bother to bring up your g-spot. No, you miss the point. . .the truth. The fallacy is what you are pushing. . .why don’t you come off that anti-bully platform. . .your lies and deceit will never bury the truth. . .keep on spinning. . .time is running out. . .in the end (could be pun intended) you lose. . . .so I will continue to pray for you.

          • Ben Name

            so, are you saying that there aren’t places that straight people hang out at to “hook up”? Is that what I am making up? hmmm…

            Again, why did God may orgasms if God didn’t want sex to be pleasurable?

            Please pray for me right after you pray for you.

            “in the end (could be pun intended) you lose..” I thought you were straight.

          • SATCitizen

            As mentioned earlier. . .all sexual immorality. God intended sex to be pleasurable for a man and his wife. In the grand scheme of things, keep on being a pawn. . .in the end, you lose. I am a child of the Living God.

          • 19gundog43

            Pearls before swine, Brother

          • Ben Name

            I wonder who you think is which character. Go ahead, enlighten us.

          • Ben Name

            Again, for the third time, I will ask WHY did God make sex pleasurable? Try answering the “why” and just not repeat what you have already said.

            Are you calling me a name (pawn)? Your other comment chastised me for (allegedly) calling someone a name. God doesn’t like hypocrites. God must hate you. You lose.

          • H. Wells

            God made sex to be pleasurable to fulfill the expression of love between one man and one woman. Scripture makes that pretty clear (the one man one woman part) in more than one place. Then Satan comes along, and as is done so often, perverts what God made as good. Sex, I am told, may be pleasurable between and 11 year-old and a 53 year-old (in any combination of genders). Sex, I am told, is pleasurable between some people (again any combination of gender) and horses or dogs. Does the pleasurable part mean it is God’s will that mankind misuse His gift? Some people find it pleasurable to shoot up crack cocaine. Some find it pleasurable to abuse children or animals. Was that God’s intent when he made man able to experience pleasure/

          • Ben Name

            Thank you for doing the work that someone else could not do.

            Good answer. So few can actually articulate what rattles around in their brain.

      • SATCitizen

        What’s so sad about the sexually abused in Californication is that Harvey Milk is placed on a pedestal. My brother was molested while in the 5th grade, along with several of his friends at our Youth Center, all ended up in the homosexual lifestyle. My brother’s long-term partner cheated on him, infected him, and he died of AIDS, God rest his soul. Before passing, he was able to make his life right before the eyes of the Lord. He would always say, “I hate the gay activists because they ruin it for the rest of us.” The truth of this lifestyle needs to be exposed for what it really is and they need to come off that anti-bully platform as they bully like no other. Thanks for all your posts! May God continue to bless you and yours as you continue to post the truth!

        • edav38

          Talking about “the Lifestyle”, like everyone who identifies as homosexual, shows a total lack of understanding, and doesn’t even get close to looking at all of the issues. You Blame Gays for everything, yet Ignore the Heterosexuals who molest, who spread disease, you Ignore ALL of the issues, in order to Demonize a tiny portion of the population.
          YOU, people Like You, and People like RAY, go so far AGAINST what Christ taught, it is sickening

          • SATCitizen

            All sexual immorality is not being ignored and why is Milk on a pedestal. My brother was molested by a homosexual. So no, you are wrong, all who fall the same category are labeled the same. And quit misquoting what Christ taught, for then you would be trying to lead a life free from sin instead of walking so openly in it. Ray speaks the truth which you which to deny. Funny how such a “tiny portion of the population” is bullying their way and trying to claim their lifestyle is acceptable. The Laws of Order and Nature say otherwise. Even Plato called homosexuality a crime and wrote rules so the young boys could protect themselves. . and what do we get. . .the one who love his twinkies on a pedestal. Homosexuality has been around since the beginning of man. . .it was wrong then as it was now. All we can do is pray for your soul.

          • Ben Name

            It is absolutely sad what happened to your brother. But, if molestation leads to sexual preference, as you are claiming, then straight people must have been molested by a member of the opposite sex.

            Not knowing your bother’s life at all but seeing the way you act toward people defending others in the gay/queer communities I would wager that your brother was actually attempting to relieve you of your anti-gay sentiments rather than straightening up for God. Having to listen to you berate him for his confusing life that goes against a dogmatic up bringing must have been maddening. I would bet that God would rather you and your brother be resolved of your differences than God and your brother are. They have eternity to work out what God deems a vile lifetime the two of you have only a short time.

          • SATCitizen

            I’m not claiming anything other than what happened to my brother and his friends and yes, many have been molested by the opposite sex as well, it’s taking place in the schools now. Oh please, you’re right, you didn’t know my brother and he was against those pushing the lifestyle down other people’s throats. . .making them accept what goes against their principles, convictions, and beliefs. Not only that, he protected those in his circle of friends that were belittled and berated for not wanting to push the agenda. My brother was not belittled and berated by me or my family one iota. . .that was left for those pushing the homosexual lifestyle. . .our home became a refuge for them if you wanta know the truth. I served on an AIDS Ministry team with my Church and yes, will speak out against the immorality of the lifestyle and pray for the sinner. My brother would have no problem with me repeating his words and my anti-homosexual sexual preference will not change and you would have loved the spirit of my brother. . .he gave far more through his protection than those spewing the agenda.

          • Ben Name

            “…it’s taking place in the schools now.”

            Yikes! Get the kids out of school!

            “My brother was not belittled and berated by me or my family one iota.”

            I suppose you never once discussed God and God’s plan for men and women . I wonder if you ever asked him what he wanted or that you would unconditionally support his choice if he chose a male partner (over your beliefs).

            “…immorality of the lifestyle…”

            It’s only immoral because people like you force gay people into hiding and shame. Not everyone believes in the Christian God and he knows that. God would have no trouble accepting people of other faiths and beliefs if their hearts, minds and deeds are pure though God might be sad that they never had the chance to know him before.

            “…my anti-homosexual sexual preference will not change…”

            No doubt about that.

          • SATCitizen

            Why discuss what was already known and with those who were keeping their private lives private. Christ did say hate the sin, love the sinner. Where was the compassion from their own kind. . .and to stand on an anti-bully platform. . .what a bunch of jokers. Tell the truth of what really goes on to those who prefer to keep their sexual lives private. . .and don’t bring up the closet. . .that’s just BS.
            Yeah. . .get kids out of the indoctrination centers. . .education is secondary to pushing the agenda.
            PC is may be fine for those who want to go with the flow, no pun intended, many of us prefer the truth over the sugarcoated lies. And you’re right. . .there is no doubt in the truth.

          • Ben Name

            I seriously doubt that all gays were not supportive of your brother. I would wager that is either a construct of your own mind or your brother’s own victimization of himself.

            the only joker here is you. You are dogmatic and unforgiving.

          • SATCitizen

            And I seriously doubt all homosexuals are not supportive of your agenda. There’s no need to fabricate as you do, and yes, my brother was a victim of molestation which you are so openingly support. . .no my friend, the joker is not me. . .the joker is you for being dupe. You have no idea what I am. . .but definitely not one who falls for the lies and deceit of the agenda.

          • Ben Name

            I fabricated? What did I fabricate, in your mind?

            Thanks for putting words in my mouth about supporting molestation. Never, ever have I said nor insinuated that I support molestation. This tactic of attempting to label me as you wish me to be is seriously out of line. Clearly you have lost your point and now you are making things up about what I have said. I clearly now know you are a liar. No wonder your brother hid the truth about himself from you. You are a judgmental liar who will say what ever is needed just to win your point. You are a sad representative of a human being.

          • SATCitizen

            Sure you fabricated, about my non-supportive brother. Homosexuals support the Milkman and have him on a pedestal, he molested also You can call me a liar all you want, doesn’t make it so. . .just like with homosexuals and marriage.. . .you can rant all you want about a lifestyle that has been wrong since the beginning of mankind. . .your rant and the activists who are spewing still do not make the lifestyle right. Marriage is between a man and a woman, the majority of the world sees it this way. . .and that is my viewpoint also. . .nothing to lie about. . .nothing to be judgmental about, but has everything to do with standing by morals, principles, convictions, and beliefs. Yes, there are days that I am sad and that has nothing to do with how I represent mankind. . .after all. . .if it is sad to stand in the truth then I shall be sad. . .at least that’s better than being a pawn.

          • Ben Name

            For 1800 years all of human kind thought the world was the center of the universe. That didn’t make it true.

            I have not fabricated anything about your brother, I merely commented on what he could have been thinking based on your behavior. You can call that fabricating all you want but, just like falsely believing in the Earth as the center of the universe or that marriage is only between a man and a woman, it doesn’t make it an absolute truth.

            Please, continue to stand by your morals, principles, convictions and beliefs. You represent them poorly when you falsely accuse other people of being wrong or behaving badly when they have not. You are only proving that your brother must have been growing tired, as I am, of your hypocrisy. Unfortunate for him all he could do is to agree with you to stop you from badgering him in his final days.

          • SATCitizen

            My brother said, :I hate the gay activists because they ruin it for the rest of us.” That is based on their behavior, not mine. I do not have to be accepting of sin, only of the sinner. And in actuality, my brother was growing tired of the belittling, berating, and demeaning of homosexuals against their own because they would not push the agenda. Yes, I will stand by the truth. . .regardless of how you want to spin it. You wouldn’t know absolute truth if it hit you in the face. . .after all, you have already been deceived by the lies. . keep playing along. . .and my brother would agree with me and it is an honor to use his words.

          • Ben Name

            That’s what he told you.

          • SATCitizen

            Not just me my friend, not just me. Fall for the spin. . .keep ridin. the merry-go-round. . .seems you really prefer dizzy. . .carry on.

          • Ben Name

            keep feeling that brotherly love(errr).

          • SATCitizen

            Tell me Bennie. . .how do you feel that brotherly love. . .through the Lord or though lies and deceits about a mocking lifestyle?

          • Ben Name

            through the Lord. Thanks for asking.

          • SATCitizen

            Then walk in His ways. . .do not fall for the lies and deceit for a lifestyle that mocks God. The Lord is our light and our salvation. . .He is the one who will set us free. Compassion is there for those who are trapped in a sinful way of life. We have to stand in the light of the truth and not the deceit of lies.

          • Ben Name

            You being born is a mockery to God. You bastardize his teachings to fit your perverted sense of right and wrong.

          • edav38

            Sorry about your brother, I understand what he went through, as I was raped, but that DOES NOT MEAN that ALL Homosexuals are molesters, it does not even mean the majority are, stats prove that the vast majority identify as Heterosexual.
            Yes, ALL Sexual Immorality is a sin, that INCLUDES Heterosexual Immorality, but to understand this, you have to understand what was being talked about when you talk about homosexual, because that word Never came into existence until the mid-1800s. In the Bible, the Majority of man-on-man sex is referring to prostitution and pagan religious rituals, Both of which are Equally sinful when they are man-on-woman sex.
            And I never misquaote what Christ said, I take it exactly From the Bible itself, usually the New King James version.
            Ray Speak with a Forked Tongue, Ray is ONLY about Judgment, where as Christ was about Forgiveness and redemption.
            Ray is also a pompass azz, who likes to speak with authority as if HE is Without Sin, which is a Impossibility, since he is Human.

          • Ben Name

            Absolutely right…..even though no one here will like it.

          • edav38

            Thanks Ben, but that has never, and will never stop me from taking on those who pervert Christ for their own prejudices, as Ray does more often than Not, But, I DO AGREE with Ray, on occasion, which he would likely not believe. ;-)

          • Ben Name

            keep up the fight.

    • Ben Name

      Oppositional sex marriage is NOT about marriage, it is a political drive for special rights and power, nothing more.

  • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

    Some statistics about the Homosexual lifestyle:

    • One study reports 70% of homosexuals admitting to having sex only one time with over 50% of their partners (3).

    • One study reports that the average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year (6). The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime.

    • Many homosexual sexual encounters occur while drunk, high on drugs, or in an orgy setting (7).

    • Many homosexuals don’t pay heed to warnings of their lifestyles: “Knowledge of health guidelines was quite high, but this knowledge had no relation to sexual behavior” (16).

    • Ben Name

      “Some statistics about the Homosexual lifestyle.”

      What’s your source?

      • mac12sam12

        What are the statistics, gay guy?

        • Ben Name

          look above imbecile.

          • SATCitizen

            Love that name callin’ don’t ya!

          • 19gundog43

            That all they have. That and LLALALALALALALALAL. I can’t hear you !!!!!!

          • SATCitizen

            They love the blah. . .blah. . .blah don’t they!

          • Ben Name

            What kind of word is LLALALALALALALALAL?

          • Ben Name

            It’s not name calling when it’s true. That’s called descriptive. Maybe you should finish Jr. High?

          • mac12sam12

            You sound stressed! Advice. Load up the fanny pack, tanning salon and nail salon should be your destination! Have a good day, Cupcake!

          • Ben Name

            again, look above.

            If you can pull your head out of your asssss.

      • edav38

        Ray doesn’t believe in Sources, Ben, he makes it up as he goes along

  • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

    Homosexuals got homosexuality removed from the list of mental illnesses in the early 70s by storming the annual American Psychiatric Association (APA) conference on successive years. “Guerrilla theater tactics and more straight-forward shouting matches characterized their presence” (2). Since homosexuality has been removed from the APA list of mental illnesses, so has pedophilia (except when the adult feels “subjective distress”) (27).

    • Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States (5). They make up only 1-2% of the population

    • Ben Name

      ” more straight-forward shouting matches characterized their presence”

      Sounds like a Tea Party rally too.

    • Ben Name

      “Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases”

      Gasp! That means straight people account for 96-97%!

      • e1313ruth

        Ben has it ever dawned on you that as the serpent said, YOU WILL BE AS GODS, homosexuals think they are gods and prefer another god for sex rather than a lowly unimportant woman..

        • Ben Name

          ha ha ha ha….think they are Gods. You are as confused as the gays are….

    • 19gundog43

      BINGO!!

    • edav38

      If Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea, that means 97% of All cases are from Straights, Likewise, with Syphilis 40% are from Straights, 83% of All Hospital admissions are from Straights, And, since REAL Figures on total number of people who identify themselves as Homosexual, Bisexual or Transgender are 5-10% of the Population, but then Truth has never been your strong suit, Ray,, Come out of YOUR Closet, we know you are Gay,

  • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

    Homosexuals live unhealthy lifestyles, and have historically accounted for the bulk of syphilis, gonorrhea, Hepatitis B, the “gay bowel syndrome” (which attacks the intestinal tract), tuberculosis and cytomegalovirus (27).

    • 73% of psychiatrists say homosexuals are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization (13).

    • 25-33% of homosexuals and lesbians are alcoholics (11).

    • Ben Name

      “25-33% of homosexuals and lesbians are alcoholics (11).”

      Gasp! that means that 76-75% of alcoholics like male/female coupling. Or at least that’s what they say. We all know that those alcoholics must be in the closet.

      • e1313ruth

        .Doesn’t it really mean 25 to 33 % of HOMOSEXUALS are alcoholics..

        • Ben Name

          oh. you’re right! There’s a first for everything.

      • aztectrumpet

        Don’t know if you really don’t get mathematical logic at all in addition to not being able to subtract or what…

        • Ben Name

          no worries. I like to complain about other people’s typos too.

          • aztectrumpet

            I guess you missed the mathematical logic part.

          • Ben Name

            I guess you are a parrot.

    • edav38

      If you cannot Cite your sources, your figures are Suspect.
      The thing is, no where Near 73% say homosexuals are less happy. Yet, their happiness tends to deal with their ability to live their lives without people like YOU trying to make them into 2nd and 3rd class citizens.
      But, then, Ray, People like you Cannot get hard unless you are putting your Heal on someone. That, or YOU are Hiding in the Closet

      • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

        REFERENCES
        (1) Advocate, 1985.
        (2) Bayer, R. Homosexuality and American Psychiatry.
        (3) Bell, A. and Weinberg, M. Homosexualities: a Study of Diversity Among Men and Women. New York: Simon & Schuster, 1978.
        (4) Cameron et. al. ISIS National Random Sexuality Survey. Nebraska Med. Journal, 1985, 70, pp. 292-299.
        (5) “Changes in Sexual Behavior and Incidence of Gonorrhea.” Lancet, April 25, 1987.
        (6) Corey, L. and Holmes, K. “Sexual Transmission of Hepatitis A in Homosexual Men.” New England J. Med., 1980, pp. 435-38.
        (7) Family Research Institute, Lincoln, NE.
        (8) Fields, Dr. E. “Is Homosexual Activity Normal?” Marietta, GA.
        (9) Jay and Young. The Gay Report. Summit Books, 1979, p. 275.
        (10) Kaifetz, J. “Homosexual Rights Are Concern for Some,” Post-Tribune, 18 December 1992.
        (11) Kus, R. “Alcoholics Anonymous and Gay America.” Medical Journal of Homosexuality, 1987, 14(2), p. 254.
        (12) Lesbian News, January 1994.
        (13) Lief, H. Sexual Survey Number 4: Current Thinking on Homosexuality, Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality, 1977, pp. 110-11.
        (14) Manlight, G. et. al. “Chronic Immune Stimulation By Sperm Alloantigens.” J. American Med. Assn., 1984, 251(2), pp. 237-438.
        (15) Morton-Hunt Study for Playboy
        (16) MsKusick, L. et. al. “AIDS and Sexual Behavior Reported By Gay Men in San Francisco.” Am. J. Pub. Health, 1985, 75, pp. 493-96.
        (17) Newsweek, February 1993.
        (18) Newsweek, 4 October 1993.
        (19) Psychological Reports, 1986, 58, pp. 327-37.
        (20) Rueda, E. “The Homosexual Network.” Old Greenwich, Conn., The Devin Adair Company, 1982, p. 53.
        (21) San Francisco AIDS Foundation, “Can We Talk.”
        (22) San Francisco Sentinel, 27 March 1992.
        (23) Science Magazine, 18 July 1993, p. 322.
        (24) Statistical Abstract of the U.S., 1990.
        (25) “The Overhauling of Straight America.” Guide Magazine. November, 1987.
        (26) United States Census Bureau
        (27) United States Congressional Record, June 29, 1989.
        (28) University of Chicago’s Nation Research Corp.
        (29) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Fourth Edition, American Psychiatric Association, 1994.

        © 2000- 2003 International Organization of Heterosexual Rights

        • edav38

          Read the largest Gay Magazine, The Advocate, alot do you?
          Trying to tell us something about Yourself, Ray?

  • e1313ruth

    The Lord has not changed his mind…He loves homosexuals, but……He hates the sin of homosexuality..and possibly he feels pity for those entangled in this addiction…but….unless these repent and change they will not be saved..

    • Ben Name

      some one find these people a cure!

      • SATCitizen

        Your demonrats won’t let ‘em. . .gotta keep sugarcoating those lies.

    • SATCitizen

      For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.

  • conservative

    Pretty clear; nothing tricky about the wording that one cannot comprehend.

    • 19gundog43

      They comprehend alright. They are in self-denial because if they ever acknowledged the Bible was the Word of God they have to admit they were living a perverted life. Like scared little children passing the graveyard at night repeating “there are no such thing as ghosts” over and over.

      • SATCitizen

        Which explains the indoctrination of the little ones, the ones who are really gonna suffer.

      • Ben Name

        so only perverts read the bible?

        You believe in ghosts?

  • SATCitizen

    Kristen is the female Marc Lamont Hill. . .both are piled high and deep as they try to sugarcoat the lies. . . .Christ also cares not for the lukewarm. . .they may think faith is a buffet to pick and choose what you want to put into practice. . .in the end (no pun intended) they will not be glaad they made the wrong decisions.

    • Ben Name

      You said it brother. Jesus is all about the hate.

      • SATCitizen

        When it comes to sin, yes. . .keep on being the pawn that you are and I will pray for you.
        For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.

        • Ben Name

          I’m glad you agree Jesus is a hater.

          Please pray for me because I’m sure you have all the time in the world to pray for all those lost souls.

          • SATCitizen

            Of sin. . .just like a troll to leave out the truth and what they don’t want to face, and hate. Yes, I will pray for you and I do pray for lost souls. When it comes to prayer there is always time. . .maybe you should try it.
            “Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do.”

          • Ben Name

            “…just like a troll to leave out the truth and what they don’t want to face.”

            What truth do you want me to acknowledge? We already can tell you are stupid.

            “maybe you should try it.” Maybe I already have. What leads you to concluding that I don’t? oh, that would be called self-righteousness.

          • SATCitizen

            Nothing like a spin doctor to start the day.

          • Ben Name

            only spin doctors neglect direct questions…

            here are mine again for you to answer…

            What truth do you want me to acknowledge?

            What leads you to concluding that I don’t (pray)?

          • SATCitizen

            Keep on spinnin’. . .you make up your own truth. . .if you pray good. . .if you read the Good Book then you know the truth about homosexuality and you also know Jesus does not hate the sinner.. . .but you twisted that up as well. . .just like a merry-go-round. . .n round. . .n round. . .

          • Ben Name

            ha ha ha. You’ve got nothing but your “good book” and your assumptions. God doesn’t look kindly on the self-righteous. Good luck in the end (pun intended) when you can’t get past the ga(y)tes.

          • SATCitizen

            As a matter of fact. . .I do have a good book. . .”Keep it Pithy.” With truth there are no assumptions and only God knows how He looks upon you, but yes, he most likely sees you as self-righteous. I’m always proud to use my homosexual brother’s words, “I hate the gay activists because they ruin it for the rest of us.” You make his words ring loud and true today.

          • Ben Name

            What!?!!? you have a gay brother and you haven’t successfully shamed him into being straight? You are a terrible Christian.

          • Virgil Ferguson

            Ben, you don’t believe that Jesus is God. You are a fool. The fool has said in his heart(mind) there is no God.

          • Ben Name

            sorry, where did I say that I don’t believe that Jesus is God?

            I guess you are the fool for making up something I never said nor implied. Keep representing your view points with such intelligence.

      • 19gundog43

        Can’t you trolls ever come up with anything but your tired, worn-out, overused buzz words like; HATE, HATER, HOMOPHOBE, INTOLORANT, blah,blah, blah. You really some new scriptwriters. Surly there are enough homosexuals in Hollywierd that can give some new words to parrot. You clowns are really becoming jokes.

        • SATCitizen

          None of them have any originality. . .they use the same ole talkin’ points. Gotta keep with Alinsky’s Rule # 5 to ridicule. Gotta a backpack full of insults and it’s still as light as a feather. Trolls are nothing more than programmed pawns. . .and you’re right, they could use some new scriptwriters!

          • 19gundog43

            Also as good little Alinsky drones they have to isolate and destroy the messenger. Never mind the truth. Slander and vilify are their objectives.

          • SATCitizen

            Alinsky dedicated his book of rules to satan. . .probably isn’t the only one he dedicated to him either. Keeps up with the bullying. . .to isolate. . .the drones are nothing but weaklings that have to gather in the pack. They are a funny bunch aren’t they. . .cause two can play that game. Our Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth (Bible) has a much better plan and is everlasting!

          • Ben Name

            unlike your brand of originality. what a joke!

            Someone teach you a big word, “programmed”?

            “Conservatives have a tendency to try to win every debate with logic and recitations of facts….” When? What facts? What logic?

          • SATCitizen

            Gee. . .thought you liberals were the one who were so logic oriented and most of the conservatives I know do not recite the same ole’ talkin’ points over-n-over-n-over again. . .but most sheeple do. . .weren’t you the one asking for the source? Most conservatives stand in the truth. BTW. . .you do love your labels.

          • Ben Name

            Labels? hey someone with some “common sense” show me what SATCitizen is talking about.

            “Most conservatives stand in the truth.” If truth is based on opinion, then that’s for sure. I suppose you mean the “good book” of truths that you exploit to make your ungodly points.

        • Ben Name

          why are you hating on me?

          • 19gundog43

            “Hate” is an abstract noun. There is no such verb as “hating” Please learn English or better still get a new script writer. I rest my case. Nothing but a bunch of parrots using worn out and sometimes non-words. LOL!

          • Ben Name

            Why are the hate man?

            Is that better?

            “Nothing but a bunch of parrots using worn out and sometimes non-words.”

            Unlike Libtard, Demoncrat, and all the non words morphed from Obama?

    • gatormike53

      Naw she is not nearly as bad as the Pompous Marc Lamont Hill. He just shows you that having degrees does not necessarily translate in to knowing what you are talking about, only that you can bloviate on a subject

      • SATCitizen

        Excellent point. A thermometer has proven to be smarter than the Hill with some of his babble.

  • Don Sr.

    For a moment there I thought this female was just a dumb blond, but then I’d be judging my own sis who is also a blond and I might add she’s a pretty smart blond. Having said that I can affirm that being blond does mean you are less than smart…..but being a human being causes you to come up short when it comes to the glory of God. Now being stupid….misimformed…ignorant or just plain in denial IS a problem that we all have the choice of being. Just as accepting the words written in the Bible is also a choice. The difference is that you can follow the person next to you and believe whatever they say or you can put forth a little effort and dig in to the Bible and gain a world of knowledge. Happy reading Kristen. Also I might add you will get the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so help me God.

    • Ben Name

      “…I might add she’s a pretty smart blond. ” You sure saved yourself there.

    • GramE

      Smart blond? You betcha’. Me, that is (natural). The anomaly here is that so many gals want to become blond, and can (it takes about a hour). You as a male, can’t understand women (well known fact). It takes effort and time for you to become a woman – but you still won’t have mind of a woman. (smiley face goes here)

      • MildBill

        I found a bottle on the beach and when I uncorked it a Genie popped out. . . . He said to me “Master, I will grant you any wish you desire !” . . . I thought about it for a second and said I really would like a 4 lane highway from California to Hawaii, complete with restaurants and various roadside parks to pull off and enjoy the trip. . . . The Genie said “That’s impossible with all things considered a whole team of Genies could never pull that off. . . you’ll just have to come up with another wish !” . . . . I thought again for a second and said “OK, I always wanted to understand women, you know, why they cry for no reason and do crazy things and despite all efforts by men, never quite learn to back a car up !” . . . The Genie looked at me like I had two heads, rolled his eyes at me and said “OK, now is this highway supposed to have lights ?” . . . . . Women don’t even understand women. . . Us guys don’t stand a chance ! . . . lol

        • GramE

          You’re right – you don’t stand a chance.
          Can’t tell what breed that dog is.

          • MildBill

            That’s my little Peanut, a 5-1/2 lb. Min Pin. . . She was born in our bedroom 3 yeas ago. . . She was so tiny when born the Vet said she would never make it, but she was a fighter and quite a little character. . . . Sadly, she did a little rabbit run up onto the road and was hit and killed about a month ago. . . I put her picture up as a tribute to her. . . I really miss that little big-hearted dog ! . . . a lot.

          • GramE

            Little dog – big heart. I have a 72 lb Bouvier (small for her breed), 10 1/2, and I love every day with her.

            Those who treat their pets kindly are called “righteous” (Proverbs 12:10).

          • MildBill

            Yes Ma’am ! . . . . We have always had Lab’s and my wife wanted “a Little dog” and we wound up with 3 Min Pins (all are called Stag Red type) and I learned to love them all. . . They really have definite personalities. . . . When my dogs do not take to a person it is BIG RED FLAG for me as they sense something bad in a person and cannot be fooled by smooth takers like people can. . . My horses are the same way. . . .Maybe animals are just smarter than people !

  • WelderChick

    Just read the article connected to this piece. Geez, Louise. So changing Christian teaching on homosexuality is no different than changing stance on the solar system? Really? Never mind the fact that the teachings concerning homosexuality and marriage involve the Natural Law which is what God deems the proper working of our human persons and is as unchangeable as 2+2=4 while the info concerning the solar system was simply new factual info gained from scientific study which has nothing to do with our souls and eternal destination.

    Another example of if the world says Jump!, pseudo-Christians say, How high?

    Now, the Catholic Church still maintains that marriage is until death do you part and not all divorced people (in fact, quite a lot) are granted annulments. If you’re not granted an annulment, you can’t remarry. If you do, you can’t receive the sacraments. And the Church sticks to that. And she’s excoriated for it as well (how unkind! how cruel! blah, blah and much of the criticism, sorry to say, comes from Protestants). There are several women in my parish who have lead single, celibate lives cuz they couldn’t get an annulment and don’t want to give up the sacraments. For them, Jesus is more important than remarriage.

    But this is nothing new. Peter, Paul, and John all battled forms of this. There’s always been the lukewarm. The Church battles Nestorianism, Arianism, Gnosticism, etc all of which offered an antiseptic Jesus, an easy Jesus, an I’m-ok-you’re-ok Jesus. So we shouldn’t be shocked.

    • SATCitizen

      Not shock. . .but have to defend the truth.

  • Psychodad

    Jesus can save us of our sins but he can not save us from ourselves . When we become saved it does not mean our sins will not come back to bite us in the @ss ! Kirsten will find that out soon . ( Pride before the fall)

  • Richard Irwin

    New Christians shave a tendency to be easily deceived, it’s unfortunate that she (as a new Christian) has such a public forum

  • http://www.misifi.co.uk/ John in Brum

    I am a live and let live type of person. What people get up to in their own homes is their business and their business alone, as long as it doesn’t hurt or impact on anybody else (that includes adopted children).

    I do draw the line though when it is shoved in my face and take exception when the radical gays demand more and more, which is in effect taking more and more from the regular World.

    What is a gay marriage taking you may ask? Well it is taking the “special” out of a marriage and making the whole ceremony more like a business deal than the union of man and a woman for the purpose of procreation to keep the species alive.

    Two men and or two women can love each other deeply but if they are too lazy to make a will to provide for their partner, I see no reason why the government or anybody should take up the slack by enshrining their rights in legislation.

    • Carmen A.

      Which the will burn for ever in Hell, God wants them not to go there It is up to the Church to tell the Truth about sin Homosexual sin abomination Adultery sin fornication sin Immoral sexual sin leads to Hell If I do not warn them of this they will regret their choice for eternity In God’s word if they love each other is Ok is not in his word The will pay for their choice and it is not very good. Look at all the societies that have embraced Homosexuality has past away in history!

  • ChicagoThunder1

    In the bible God calls the enemy “Goats” AKA Follower’s of Satan as opposed to “Lambs” Follower’s of God and Christ and every farmer knows that you don’t turn you’re back on a goat and you better not bend over to pick anything up if the goat is around. Because he will go up on his tippy toes and quietly sneak up behind you and show you just how much he loves you.

    • MildBill

      Ahh ! . . .but it’s the Judas goats that lead others to their (spiritual) demise. . .I fear that Kirsten may be a “Judas Goat”, either knowingly or unknowingly. . . I believe she was an atheist not too long ago and has not had enough time to study Scripture and apply it to her otherwise “Liberal” mindset. . . . Time will tell if her newly found Christianity is genuine. . . I hope and pray that it is genuine for her sake and all those she may influence in her public forum. . . If she IS truly inspired, the words will find HER !

      • Dr. Richard Kimble

        A number of the Fox News people believe in homo marriage: O’Reilly, Hannity, etc. What a shame, because I really like them otherwise.

        • sreynolds

          Hannity does NOT believe in gay marriage dip[shi t, he says every damn day he believes in the biblical terminology of marriage between One man and One woman,… don’t know about o’reilly, I don’t watch him.

          • Dr. Richard Kimble

            Thanks for keeping the conversation civil, ass[hol e.

          • sreynolds

            Maybe you should try to state facts instead of BS, democrat.

        • sreynolds

          By the way, have you ever heard the saying ” thou shalt not bare false witness”??

  • 19gundog43

    Deviates could not care less what Christ, Paul or God Himself says
    about their perverted death-styles. They mock and ridicule God’s Word because of
    their darkness. They believe if they deny Truth long and loud enough it will go
    away. Ignorant fools. Solomon nailed them completely when he said in Proverbs
    1:22-29

    22 “How long, you simple ones, will you love
    simplicity? For scorners delight in their
    scorning, And fools hate knowledge.
    Turn at my rebuke; Surely I will pour out my spirit on
    you; i will make my words known to
    you.
    24 Because I have called and you refused
    23 I have stretched out my hand and no one
    regarded,
    25 Because you disdained all my counsel,
    And would have none of my rebuke,
    26 I also will laugh at your calamity;
    I will mock when your terror comes,
    27 When your terror comes like a storm,
    And your destruction comes like a
    whirlwind,When distress and anguish come upon you.
    28 “Then they will call on me, but I will not
    answer; They will seek me diligently, but they will not find me.
    29 Because they hated knowledge

  • matt mccleary

    Right on Doug…you put that lieing homo loving bi__h in her place. I watch Fox news often and they always have this bitch…Karl Rove…Wan Williams on???Why… there liberal dipshits and obummer lovers. Antway..love your site and love all you say dude..Never quit Doug..You da Man.

    • Wes

      Understand your position but FOX NEWS needs someone for the conservatives to punch on and to personify the liberal point of view. It is much better to demonstrate stupid than to describe it.

      • Lugh

        Good point. But they also fired the Judge. They aren’t for too much Truth because that would rock the boat.

  • Mark Brickey

    Remember “The King & I”? A man is but a butterfly going from flower to flower… ad lib, but close,,, Man is a horney machistic sex machine (well, men who haven;t been “urbanized”). Multiple wives, concubines, trists, young boy “armor bearers” escorting mighty warriors into war, trollips, and on and on. The Bible doesn’t hide deviancy even of its heros (David, Abraham, Solomon, etc.) even to the point of God requesting Hosea to marry a prostitute.
    Just as with any sin/deviancy/whatever it’s called, the Bible makes it pretty clear. Sin is placing one’s “worship” or “glory” into the wrong direction. If one places his worship in God, his Creator, and glories in his God because of what He completed through His Son Jesus the Christ on that horrible death on that cross some 2000 years ago (Of course, those pre-Christian needed to look towards this redemption & walk in faith as did the prophets & patriarchs of old) then one won’t really have much time, inkling or even desire to worship & glory otherwise.
    When one has tasted the real thing, why would one want to waller in the pig sty?

    • ARNOLD CARL TAPP

      > THE ” IGNORANT ” KING OF SIAM DID NOT KNOW 1 IMPORTANT FACT.< THE BEES WHICH GO FROM FLOWER TO FLOWER TO FLOWER ARE ALL
      —————————— FEMALES . ———————————

      • sargeant rock

        He said “butterfly” not bees…..

  • Dukhooker

    Powers saw that she could land a lucrative gig on FNC by pretending to soften her extreme, far-left views on everything she believes in – and she went for it. It’s amazing how Commies turn into Capitalists when an opportunity to line THEIR pockets presents itself. But you can’t make chicken salad out of chicken schitte & you can’t make Powers into a decent person by dangling dollars in front of her.

  • J Cooper

    Powers, and others too many list. See their face, I go to another channel… they are mentally ill….its a shame you have to let them voice their opinion.

  • GQ4U

    God never changes so Powers should.

  • ARNOLD CARL TAPP

    >> THE BIBLE ALSO CLEARLY CONDEMNS SEX BETWEEN 2 MEN OR 2 WOMEN << QUEERS CAN RATIONALIZE THEIR BEHAVIOR AND MAKE ALL THE EXCUSES IN THE WORLD , BUT HIS LAWS CAN NEVER BE CHANGED . THE FALSE PRIESTS AND MINISTERS WHO PERFORM ILLEGAL CEREMONIES ARE JUST AS GUILTY. <<<

    • taliesin319

      The bottom line is, one situation is NORMAL and the other is not. Stop calling them Gay and start referring to them by what they are whatever configuration they take, 2 men=homosexual- which is not the norm. 2 women = homsexual
      and not the norm. both groups cannot engender children unless they have the help of a third party. Transgenders are by DNA in 99.7 % of their group equipped with sex organs in sync with the DNA-either male with the proper equipment or women with proper female equipment. They are not men in women’s bodies or vice versa. That is a delusion which psych men under unrelenting pressure have caved into calling gender dysphoria . Many Psychiatrists deplore what is being described as proper treatment for this condition.What they have functions normally and only the delusion they are under prevents them from functioning as per their genitals. Psychotherapy yes. Major surgery removes anyhope of a once normal set of organs acting efficiently post surgery. They may call themselves wharever they wish but normal simply isn’t accurate. If they wish to cohabit they are not forbidden to.
      Any marriage certificate is a permission given by the state who has called what they are engaging in a marriage. Traditional marriage between one man and one woman is the only marriage God recognizes and He can deal with them any way he wishes. Leave them to him. Never call it a marriage because it isn’t one any more than the behavior is normal.

  • seenitb4

    I could not abide the likes of a Kirsten Powers on any show I would emcee nor would I have her if she was the last of the species on earth. Why do the networks allow trash like her to stink up the airwaves?

  • ltcwilly

    Doug, Kirsten is fairly new to Christianity and is likely a nominal Catholic, like Bill O’Reilly. She (nor he, for that matter) shouldn’t be making commentary on biblical matters. She just wants the Jesus that sits around with children in His lap…not the Jesus cleaning house in the Temple. Can’t have it both ways.

  • georgethorvat

    It’s all about justification. That’s what sinners do who are not repentant. They rationalize their sin by justifying it. Such as the oft exclaimed phrase; “I was born this way” therefore God himself made me this way. There are only two forms of blasphemy; one being attributing the works of God to Satan and the other; attributing the works of Satan to God. Now listen carefully and see if this makes sense. Would God intentionally create sin and then condemn those who practice that sin? Of course not because then no one would be condemned.
    What most people don’t realize is that life begins at conception, not birth. Therefore we are fair game to Satan even though we may still be in the womb. So yes a person can be born corrupt but not by the hand of God. So a homosexual “can” be born into sin; but then; aren’t we all. The bottom line is that we must all recognize our faults and try to correct them; not justify them.

  • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

    The debate on this issue is irrelevant at this point. The die has been cast. And marriage equality has won. Now, its time for the bigots to figure out what they’re going to do – join Westboro Baptist or accept gay marriage like God already has….

    • Just Asking

      Biblically, where do you possibly find that “God already has…”?

      • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

        The same way we know he has accepted race equality, friend. What God blesses prospers. What he curses dies. God cursed reparative therapy for gays. He blessed marriage equality. Some call it the fruits of the Spirit.

        • Gus Baker

          If this is “marriage equality” what about single people, like me, who pay for these benefits yet don’t get them? If you are truly for equality you should fight to get rid of marriage benefits, not extend them. I imagine that concept is a little over your head tho.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Well, to each their own. If you want to get rid of marriage altogether, you can try. But you won’t have enough people supporting you to do it. See, that’s the difference. The American people are on our side on this one. Every poll proves it.

            And you as a single straight person HAVE the right to get married to any woman who will accept. Me, as a gay single person DO NOT have the right to get married to my boyfriend of many years.

            So, boys and girls, that’s why we are seeking marriage “equality.” Make sense now?

          • Truth

            No.

        • H. Wells

          So God blesses abortion on demand? So God blesses prostitution? So God blesses illegal drug sales? All these things “prosper” in this nation. You might try a little refresher on Romans chapter one.

        • Reader

          Not sure I’m following you. Race equality is easy, and it is driven by a Christian worldview. If you believe Genesis 1-10, then you believe that all humanity derives from common ancestry not just once, but twice (which genetic science in mitochondrial DNA even confirms). That means that we are all one human race, not a different race for each different ethnicity, etc. Since we are all one race, humans, dead in sin unless brought to life through Christ, it goes beyond petty and into inexcusably sinful to bear prejudices solely because a person is different.
          Therapy for homosexuals, depending on the approach, has had some amazing results. There are a number of ex-homosexuals out there spreading that testimony. The notion of God blessing ‘marriage equality’ is even more absurd and directly violates EVERYTHING God has ever revealed about sexuality.
          You have decided for yourself what is right and wrong, what you believe should be blessed and cursed, then threw the Bible and God under the bus in favor of what you wish to be right and wrong. That is not Christian, nor is it defensible as any kind of Christian behavior. Try drawing from the Bible what is true, and realize that God always proves true to every man a liar. If that little voice in your head is telling you opposite what the Bible teaches, it is not of God. It is of the devil…or general psychosis. Either way, it isn’t reliable.

        • Reader

          Besides, the Bible has many times shown examples of the wicked prospering while the righteous suffer. Prosperity can be a sign of God’s blessing, but prosperity does not automatically prove that God approves of the person or lifestyle where he brings prosperity.

        • Truth

          How about the rampant disease, death, suicide, and misery in the “gay” community.

    • http://www.facebook.com/john.barrett.188478 jbarrett

      God has not accepted same-sex marriage, He has given people over to their sin due to the hardness of their hearts to His Word. But, that disobedience does carry a penalty, which they will ultimately suffer.

      “Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

      “For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due” – Romans 1:24-32

      • wdcraftr

        God said that in those last days, it would be as it was in the days of Noah.. Sin, sex, lust, gays, greed, etc. Morals were out the window. God destroyed the earth with water. Those sinful ones left when he returns, will be destroyed too, just not with floods.. Society does Not make a U-turn, but Sometimes individuals do though. God said to avoid those who are Not believers, because 99 out of 100 times the sinner will corrupt the believer, before the Believer converts the sinner.. Therefore, don’t marry a Non Believer either..

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.barrett.188478 jbarrett

          I thought you agreed with me, until the last, but I am not so sure. I certainly never advocated marrying a non-believer. Marrying the inhabitants of Canaan who worshiped other gods was the downfall of Israel after God brought them back to the Promised Land, and marrying a non-Christian will, at best, lead to discord in the home, fights over how any children are to be raised, and more often than not, divorce.

          I cannot, however, agree with avoiding non-believers. That would mean abandoning the Great Commission. We are to reach out to others. We are to “make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that [Jesus has] commanded [us].” We cannot do that if we avoid non-believers.

          • wdcraftr

            You are correct. I should have not used avoid.. But, hanging out with them brings us to their level, or lifestyle. But yes, witnessing to them, and being an example of a God fearing person is how we are to live our lives.

        • lisarichards124

          True, look how they have infiltrated the churches and now young evangelicals are saying gay marriage is okay, we should tolerate.

          No way. I left my now former church because it gave itself over to tolerance and social justice and now attend a home church at my friends house, as well as Tuesday Bible studies in my house.

          It’s Jesus or nothing. I wont compromise. Hell is not worth it, not even on earth!

          • http://www.facebook.com/john.barrett.188478 jbarrett

            Much of it dates back to the Vietnam War.

            Many who entered the seminaries in the 1960s did so not because they were called of God, but to avoid the draft. These people entered the ministry with a strong liberal bent, they brought it into the pulpits of our churches, and they now comprise the hierarchy of the so-called mainline churches.

            Both my mother’s family and my father’s family had been Methodists for generations. But my family left the Methodist Church in 1970, when it came out in support of the Black Panthers and American Indian Movement. About that time it also adopted a sex ed curriculum for youth that a member of my maternal grandmother’s church declared was “pornographic” and would send “the entire Methodist Church to hell.”

            I am now a Southern Baptist. The Southern Baptist Convention underwent a fight in the latter 1970s in which those who adhere to the Bible’s inerrancy expelled those who would have the Church depart from Biblical teaching. Unfortunately, with the success of Saddleback and Willowbrook, there are those who would have the Southern Baptist Church become more tolerant of Biblical lawlessness because they believe it would allow us to reach more people.

            This departure from Biblical teaching is, though, the fulfillment of prophesy. The Bible clearly tells us, “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. II Timothy 4:3-4

          • lisarichards124

            True and proven consistently in NT. The problem is the Bible is living, it is the living Word of a living God–Jesus and those who want to live by sin are convicted and they turn in hate when the Word convicts them of their wrong.

            We all know this, because it does to all of us whenever we live in anyway that is not in line with scripture, the question is, will we ask forgiveness or go on sinning and getting angry with God because He laid the ground rules

          • http://www.facebook.com/john.barrett.188478 KSJefferonian

            If we are saved, that conviction will force us to confess and repent (although not always immediately). Any person who continues to live in sin, while claiming to be saved, really needs to look at his or her salvation. Jesus was clear, “He who has my commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself in him.” John 14:21

      • lisarichards124

        Amen J. Barrett! And the OT is filled with God commanding us not to have sex with the same sex.

    • kenjack

      Actually, you sound like the bigot. The concepts of right and wrong are not relative to the times just because you think they should be. I’m a Christian, I believe the Bible is forever the inerrant Word of God; the Bible, not you or I, is what says homosexuality is wrong. The Bible, not you or I, is what says marriage is between a man and a woman, so I believe it. Nature and physiology make that an obvious fact. If you don’t like it, take it up with God.

      • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

        I did and God agreed.

        • H. Wells

          You are treading on dangerous ground my friend. It is not wise to put your own words out here and claim they are God’s.

        • Reader

          One more clear-cut case of calling evil good and good evil.

    • Gus Baker

      There is no such thing as marriage equality, that’s just a stupid soundbite, likewise nobody has “won”, are you really naive enough to think 2014 America is the first society to grapple with this issue? No, this is just another swing of the pendulum, it will swing back, mark my words on that.

      • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

        What evidence do you have showing that it will swing back? When has any civil rights issue “swung back?” You bigots crack me up.

        • Gus Baker

          Do you even know what “bigot” means?

          By what reason do you call me that?

          What evidence? You’ve got to be joking. Ever hear of the Romans, Greeks, Egyptians? Oh, to far back for ya? How about France and most of Europe during the Renaissance? Still to far back how about America in the “Roaring 20′s”, still to far back, how about America in the 1960′s.

          Trust me, let a serious financial crisis hit (which is likely considering our 20T in debt) another World War, or an infectious disease (many of them are coming back and new one’s are entering America from other countries) you watch and see, people will get religion real quick, the next thing they will do is look for a scapegoat, wonder who that will be?

          BTW, I can only guess you were making ignorant assumptions but if you actually read my post I made no comment one way or the other on homosexuality, only that you are a fool if you think anything has been “won”.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            One only has to watch the news to know who “won.” Marriage equality will be legal in all 50 states within 2 years. And your theory of economic collapse leading to the “removal of gay marriage” is just supposition, not based on any kind of researchable example.

            And as to why I call you a bigot, I use the Bible. You will know them by their fruit. If you want to prevent gay people from sharing in the same federal rights offered in marriage, then you are a bigot. You want rights for yourself and you want to prevent me from having them. Very cut and dried, friend. If the shoe fits….

          • Gus Baker

            I want to prevent EVERYONE from those “federal rights”, do you even know how to read you moron? Why should single people pay for “rights” for married people? Can you answer a simple question?

            As for the Bible, well, I don’t comment on the Bible as I don’t know much about it, but I’m pretty sure from most of what I have heard it doesn’t support GM.

            You want my evidence, I’ve already given it to you, I didn’t deny the winds are blowing in the GM direction for the moment, I pointed out a simple truth found in all of history: the pendulum can only swing so far one way before it comes swinging back the other. You want to ignore history, I really don’t care, but you know what they say “those who fail to study history are doomed to repeat it”.

            Oh, and I’m still waiting for you to define “bigot”, I know you can’t because you don’t know what it means, it’s just your go to word when can’t come up with an argument.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            You crack me up. You get so mad you can’t even make a complete sentence. Calm down, friend. Your pendulum “theory” is so bogus. According to you, at some point, slavery will come back, right? I needed a laugh before the weekend. Remember this: progress is not a pendulum by its very definition.

          • Gus Baker

            There is still slavery retard, likewise “slavery” can be defined many different ways.

            Once again, can you answer a question? If you’re so concerned with equality how is it justified for two people, gay or straight, to force single people to pay for their benefits? Do you have an answer?

            I’ve already demonstrated my pendulum theory quite clearly, the more you push, the harder the push back will be, time will tell, it’s pointless arguing about it here and now.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            I have flagged your post for use of the “r” word. That is offensive and derogatory to the specially-abled. Please control your anger when commenting, sir.

          • Mamatex

            Please explain to me why you all insist on changing the traditional and Christian definition of marriage if all you want is to have equal civil rights. … Lost in all of the discussion is the biological reasons for male and female marriage and that is procreation.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Your assumptions are what get you in trouble. I’m not talking about Holy matrimony. Churches own that and can decide who qualifies and who doesn’t. But the US government doesn’t make laws that have religious requirements. To the US government, marriage is simply a human relationship deserving certain rights. And right now, according to the 14th amendment, those rights are not being extended equally to all citizens.

          • Mamatex

            The US Govt. Can no longer get its definitions right on legal vs illegal when it comes to immigration or what constitutes terrorists. In my view all humans are deserving of equal civil rights but I will maintain there should then be the category for civil unions and under no circumstances should any group have more rights than others. See the dictionary and remember that some of us grew up at a time when gay meant happy!

          • Reader

            Those rights are being equally extended to all citizens. As marriage is the civil and legal, contractual union of a man and a woman (and the government standard has nothing to do with love), then they have exactly the same right to marry that absolutely everyone else does…marrying someone of opposite gender. To change that and argue they are being denied equal rights requires changing civil/legal definitions of marriage, not just religious ones.

          • H. Wells

            Please enlighten us, o’ enlightened one. What “federal rights” have gay people been denied that someone else had? The “right” has always been what is best for society. Any gay man has always had the exact same right that I have, the right to marry a woman. And please, don’t throw “love” into the equation. No state has ever asked or required the proof of “love” in order to obtain a marriage license.

          • Reader

            It is very enlightening how you cite “You will know them by their fruit”, then argue for the promotion of what the Bible calls evil on the basis of attempting to comply with man’s laws (which are being twisted and misinterpreted into a legal pretzel to reach that spot in the first place). If arguing for the promotion of evil against God is your fruit, then it lets everyone know you.

          • suzyshopper

            Ever hear the old verse WE OUGHT TOO OBEY GOD RATHER THEN MAN?And we know u by your fruit, homosexuality is a immoral vice, just like premarital sex, adultery and beastiality, there all choices. Ohhh soo now we know what we are dealing with,a so called Christian gay person, at first I just thought maybe u were a regular Christian who was just in error of what the Bible, says about homosexuals, but now we see, u for what u are, a unrepentant gay person, who’s sexuality is the prime motivator, instead of God word being the prime motivator of your life, u call other Christians bigots because they follow the word of God , I will tell you what God word calls you, a false prophet, and a heretic !!!

          • suzyshopper

            No matter which way this gay issue goes, God will have his final say, at the judgment seat, and it won’t be pretty.Gays already have the same rights as straights in a marriage , what u want too do is too pervert the definition of marriage, because somehow, u think that, by forcing the law too support your lifestyle, u think it will change ppls minds. Well let me tell u, true Christians won’t change their minds about blatant sin.And then when the end comes all homosexuals, adultery, Pedro’s , fornicators, liars, killers ,thieves, abortionists will be thrown in the lake of fire, if they do not repent, before they die. I feel sorry for you, for u will die in your sin.and u can expect eternal damnation, but u will find that out when u take your last breath , but then it will be too late, won’t it .!

        • H. Wells

          What is the civil right you refer to? The only so-called “right” having to do with gay marriage is a totally new right that no one in America has ever had.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Read the 14th amendment my friend.

          • H. Wells

            Should I read it with the original intent, or with the new revised intent? But that still does not tell me which “right” gays are denied that others have.

        • suzyshopper

          And you hereticks crack us up!!

    • Richard Diaz, Sr.

      Explain to me please, where God has accepted same-sex counterfeit marriage like you just stated, please show me chapter and verse.

      • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

        God has never accepted anything counterfeit. Care to re-ask your question? I thought you were a Christian.

      • H. Wells

        He cannot show what does not exist.

    • Doc

      No, the debate is not over. You have yet to face God and feel His justice.

      • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

        I’m covered by the blood of Christ. I’m not worried.

        • H. Wells

          You seem to have an incorrect idea of salvation if you believe you can just do whatever you wish, and say a few magic words and be saved.

          • suzyshopper

            Faith without works is dead, and I also quote 1 Timothy 3:14 ( And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.!

        • suzyshopper

          You may think u are, but even u will be held responsible fir leading others down the path too destruction.The Bible talks about false prophets and teachers, trying to lead Gods elect astray, and what teachings we are too look out for, as deviating from the Word of God, Do u not understand how reprehensible it is too go on these forums and pervert the scriptures, do u think God will just look the other way, because u claim too be covered by the blood of Christ.Let me ask u an honest question, do u think adultery and premarital sex is condemned by God?

    • H. Wells

      You really are deluded, aren’t you? I pity you my friend.

      • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

        Said the Pharisees to Jesus.

        • H. Wells

          No, actually Jesus said that to them. Just using different words than mine.

    • Reader

      Nice false dichotomy there. Either you are in bed with Westboro Baptist, or you accept/support homosexual marriage. That is wrong on so many levels, Bible, Christ, logic, etc, that I cannot begin to address the issue in less than a book. Frankly, you aren’t worth that effort from me, especially since a better book has already been written, called the Bible. It appears by your comments that you have barely cracked this book more than the minimum to be able to spew some jargon, mostly wrong. Read the whole thing two or three times, starting with the understanding that everything it says is true. Then build your believes. Don’t take your preconceived notions to it, then claim it supports and endorses your beliefs, You will go wrong every single time doing that.

    • suzyshopper

      You are calling GOD A LIAR, he set the perimeters of marriage, you sir are a heretic!

  • Gus Baker

    Why does GM always get turned into a religious issue, specifically a Christian one. First off, most of the world’s religions reject it, not just Christianity, second, there are many non-religious people who reject it, why can’t we ever have those discussions? Why does it always have to be “the Christians vs. the gays”?

    • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

      Because the anti-gay Christians are the loudest bigots of the lot.

      • Gus Baker

        I’ve only seen about 4 of your posts but you are seriously one of the most ignorant people I’ve ever met. You think Christians are the worst? (what exactly do they do that’s bad I’d like to know)

        Are you gay? Move to any Muslim country, then come back and let me know what you think then, oh, but you won’t be coming back. Let’s see here – Soviet Union, atheist, how did they treat gays?

        China, mostly Buddhist or atheist, how do they treat gays? Like I say, you are very ignorant.

        • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

          You assume much. I’m a born again Christian, friend. See, you stereotype and judge people before you even know them – another thing bigots are known for.

          • Gus Baker

            What does you being Christian have to do with anything I said? YOU were the one who said “anti-gay Christians” and they were “the loudest”, I pointed out your ignorance, will you ever answer a question or are you just going to keep on with the red herrings?

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            What you call red herrings are the new reality you are having trouble accepting. In fact your denial that they are even happening will lead to a big awakening for you one day. Whether you are a Christian or not is irrelevant to what is going to happen (and what has already happened) on this issue. All that is left is for you to stop whining and accept that what you want is not gonna happen.

          • Gus Baker

            What exactly do I “want”. Explain it to me. No, red herrings are you continually changing the subject and dodging the question, much like the word “bigot” you don’t know the meaning of the phrase “red herring”. I do believe I’ve been yapping with a troll here.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Then you don’t know what troll means LOL! And I do know what you want: You want a non-religious discussion of why gay marriage is wrong. What do I win?

          • lisarichards124

            Have any discussion you want, but except both sides and don’t demand everyone agree with you.

          • Reader

            Have a religious or non-religious discussion about it. I don’t care. Don’t try pushing FOR homosexual marriage based on the Bible, because the Bible first, foremost, and only forbids and prohibits homosexual relationships of any kind anywhere they are mentioned.
            As for arguing on a Biblical front, you lose if you are arguing to support homosexual marriage.
            If you are, however, arguing on a purely secular front in favor of homosexual marriage… Well, if you are willing to really pay attention to facts and studies, then you still lose if you are making a purely secular argument that they should not be prohibited. Unfortunately, that argument is rarely made, because anyone opposed to homosexual marriage or relationships is automatically labeled an intolerant, religious bigot by people such as yourself.

          • lisarichards124

            Dont waste your time Gus, he’s part of the Gay movement, a radical gay posing as a Christian and he comes onto this site not for intellectual debates, but to create arguments and division.

          • Gus Baker

            Yeah, I pretty much realized that, I’m just feeling a little embarrassed I played along for as long as I did, I usually spot it right away.

          • lisarichards124

            Don’t be embarrassed Gus, this is what the Gay Movement does: They pretend to be conservative or Christian and then when they get us show Christ’s love, they turn on us for not coming over to their side.

            Read the book After The Ball by Kirk and Madsen, its 30 years-old and known as the Gay Manifesto. They wrote the book to teach gays ala Saul Alinsky tactics how to con us and get us to accept homosexuality in TV and movies by late 90s and then infiltrate every aspect of American life by millennium.

            It’s a shocking eye-opener on how the gays work and manipulate us. Once we know their tactics, we can turn the tables. The book BTW is $200 smackers, so look for it in a local library because $200 dollars is pretty wild considering it is not the Federalist Papers.

            However, if you don’t mind spending it, its worth having to know the entire inside on the gay Movement and everything they do.

            Kirk and Madsen are neuro-Psychologists and media ad experts from Harvard and they have entire sections on code speech and ways to debate us in this book. If you have their weapon, you can turn the tables on them against their plotted arguments to trap us into agreeing and going along, as well as making half America consider being anti-gay some kind of bigotry.

            Being anti-gay means you don’t believe in or accept homosexuality, it does not mean you hate gays, it means you dislike the sin, as you dislike all sins we are not to give into because Jesus said “no go, your sins are forgiven, but go and sin no more.”

            I know a lot of people don’t want to read this book, I was one who refused until a homosexual friend turned on me last year for not giving up Christianity after 30 years of our friendship he figured by now I would give up and come over to the Gay Movement and support. When I said no, I love you as a person, but I don’t and never have accepted homosexuality any more than adultery, he went berserk angry and the true colors and truth came out: He had been trying to get me to join the movement, had recently planned to work harder on me but was furious nothing worked.

            I was so shocked to see a friendship consisted of manipulation and plans to try and change me the person in Christ while I showed love in Christ to him, never demanded he convert, always said I love you and I pray for you and Jesus loves you. He would say oh thank you, you’re so kind. It was a lie.

            Then I decided to find out why he was manipulating me and I decided to look into After The Ball and everything he had been doing was the gay manipulation of straights to overhaul straight America.

            I took this all to my web site and wrote pieces exposing After the Ball and the Gay Movement and had people write me to tell me they had those tactics use don them and now they are going to get wise to it and know the inside on the gays so they can fight back.

            We have to know their movement as we must know the Left’s tactics Saul Alinsky taught or we cannot fight back.

            We must read the Communist Manifesto or we can’t fight collectivism. We must read that in concordance with Thomas Sowell’s books and The Fair Tax and our eyes will open: Why, Because Sowell and Fair Tax are in line with God and the Bible, Marx is in line with Satan.

          • Gus Baker

            Thanks, yeah, I know of that book, and I’m well aware of the dirty tactics the gay mafia uses, I didn’t know the title off hand, but not sure if you saw my other posts, I’m not Christian myself, and I hope you don’t take offense to this but I wish Christians would stop arguing this issue, at least that is the way they currently do it.

            Bill O’Reilly tried to point this out and he got attacked for it but especially at this point quoting Bible verses will not win this argument, yet I still see Christians trying to site the Bible in message boards all across the internet.

            If all Christians had read “After The Ball” I think the situation we are in now could have been avoided by sticking to arguments about biology, the history of pedophilia and gays, and just plain common sense, I mean man is for woman, how could anyone possibly argue this, that’s why I’m against homosexuality, it has nothing to do with religious beliefs for me.

            Don’t worry tho, they are doing what everyone does – abusing their power, all this stuff like getting people fired from their jobs, forcing bakers to make cakes, it’s really waking a lot of people up to how insane they are, as I was telling the troll earlier, you can only push so far before there is a push back. Thanks for the reply.

          • H. Wells

            Please tell us of the “new reality” found in this extremely old document the Bible.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            There is no new reality. Your reality never existed.

          • H. Wells

            Let me make sure I understand your meaning. My reality, as expressed in my post, is the Holy Bible. So are you saying the Holy Bible is not real?

          • Reader

            He/She cannot because no such passage exists anywhere in the Bible. Oops, I think I just outted myself as an intolerant bigot.

          • Lowell

            Verses?

          • suzyshopper

            Maybe we should just roll over and accept any vice known too man!

          • lisarichards124

            You cannot be born again and be a practicing homosexual. Once you give your life to Christ, you reject all ungody desires, you turn from your old life to follow the Life Christ created us to be.

            So you are another homosexual Gay Movement troll trying to confuse the minds of those not aware with how the Gay Movement operates and has even infiltrated Christianity in order to get us to accept homosexual marriages and adoption.

            And thank you for calling us Christ followers bigots, because that means we are doing something right when we cause the rearing of the ugly heads of those who are trying to deceive and destroy

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Said every Pharisee

          • H. Wells

            So you just decide for yourself what Scripture really meant, and you are right and everyone else is wrong. I get it.

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            Nope. I believe all Scripture is the word of God. Unlike many of the anti-gay Christians, I don’t cherry pick my verses to support my bigotry.

          • H. Wells

            Then please share with us one passage, one verse, that supports homosexuality.

          • aztectrumpet

            Seems several people have asked this but he has ignored them all.

          • Reader

            No, what I have mostly seen so far is a fairly wholesale tossing most of the Bible under the bus to support your own world view in the name of being a ‘nonbigoted Christian’. I may have missed some of what you said that counters that, but mostly you have made pious claims to Christianity in a ‘better than thou’ approach to the hateful bigots that actual quote Biblical phrases and principles, then throwing out actually Godly judgment as a hateful bigotry that cannot be afforded the Christian church. I’d love to believe that I’ve read your posts incorrectly, so please, quote or point to a place that I misunderstood. You have defended evil and wickedness in the name of God, and I find that very hard to take. If we are supposed to know good trees by good fruit, I’m wondering where all your poisonous fruit is sourced.

          • suzyshopper

            Boy that was really well out Reader!

          • suzyshopper

            Apparently u don’t believe all scripture, is the word of God, as for using the word cherry pick,u could use that same reasoning too justify, just about any sin in the Bible!!!

          • lisarichards124

            Darling, the Pharisees never said that, but you wouldn’t know that Bible if it fell on you and smacked you in the head.

            Pharisees were scared to death of Jesus because they recognized Him as the Messiah, because only the Messiah could say what He said. Also, the Pharisees were afraid of anyone being born again, because it meant not following them, but following Christ and becoming saved and redeemed.

            The Pharisees reared their ugly heads and were chastised by John The Baptist and then Jesus, whom they set out to plot to murder–and they did to stop Him, only He did what He promised: He raised the Temple–Himself–three days later and destroyed their hold on mankind, as well as Satan who has convinced you that being gay is okay.

            BTW: Are you afraid of women, sex with a woman, or do you hate women so you chase after men, or is it that you like what homosexuality contains: Pedophilia

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            I agree with you about the Pharisees. And your last bit was just bigoted and ignorant.

          • lisarichards124

            Why thank you darling! I aim for those honors! Now, I must go tell that gay gardener not to gay up the English gardens just because they are English gardens!

          • Lugh

            Thank you for having a heart so light and gay. Gay is or at least was a beautiful word until the Homos got hold of it.

          • lisarichards124

            Sorry to say it, but, Gay the word is a word that has been around centuries and has always meant in French and other European languages, loose, immoral, sexually loose, sexually immoral: Gay was a word in the 16 and 1700s used to describe prostitutes and anyone loose with their morals.

            gay never meant happy, historically it always meant whore.

          • suzyshopper

            It would be like a an adulterer saying, I’m born that way or a pedophile saying I was born that way, all of them are immoral sexual sins, any of them will bring the chastisement, or judgment of God down on their head.

          • gramps

            Bible says not everyone that says “Lord, Lord” but he who does the WILL of the Father.

            And God’s Word is set for eternity. It even warns anyone that tries to change even the smallest thing.

            God’s Word calls homosexuality an abomination.

          • suzyshopper

            And another good verse is (Ye shall know them by their fruits)and if u love me, u will keep my commandments!

          • charliep

            How can you be “BORN AGAIN” when Jesus made it clear to Nicodemus what born again means. He likened being Born Again as a spirit which he compared with the wind that you can not see or know where it goes. Being Born Again occurs when for those other than Jesus, when he returns for the second time when the the Saints are resurrected from their graves where Moses and King David are still located. During their time in the grave they know nothing, hear nothing as it
            is referred to or compared too sleeping. From death to resurrection will be like just blink of the eye. Read your Bible and ponder on what is being said, rather than what you were taught in Sunday school. The Gospel of John is totally different than the other three Gospels and is much more revealing about who Jesus is than what the other Gospels are about.

          • suzyshopper

            By their fruits ye shall no them!If you love me you will obey my commandments!

      • lisarichards124

        Proud bigot! Thanks for the compliment!

        • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

          Thank you. At least you admit it. I wish the others on this board would show the same level of honesty.

          • lisarichards124

            Oh please with the phony thank you at least you admit it. You think everyone who disagree with gays, the life-style or anything wrong is a bigot, which means the majority of human beings are bigots, since only 1% of the population is gay and polls show most disagree with gay marriage–its the courts that overturned our vote, which is our right, not the court’s right.

            You think all Christians are bigots because we believe what the Bible says is true.

            In that case, I and many more would rather be full-blown bigots than ungodly defilers of God’s creation

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            I don’t believe all Christians are bigots. I am a Christian. And I was serious and thanking you. It was not sarcastic. A bigot who proudly wears the label is rare. Kudos to your honesty.

          • lisarichards124

            Then you are a conned Christian being told by a lying deceiving church that you can live in a sinful life-style outside God’s Word.

            As to Bigot: Everyone is, why not admit it! I hate Satan, that makes me an anti-Satan bigot!

          • Cami W

            Lisarichards, same here, thank you!

          • Pendy1

            ” I am a Christian.”
            No you’re not.

          • suzyshopper

            I’m right in there with ya Lisa!

          • Archangel

            Allow me to second lisarichards124 motion! The only contribution fagots have made to our society is AIDS!

          • OnlyMyHumbleOpinion

            I wish you would do your research before you post. More heterosexuals have aids in the world then homosexuals.

          • johnnywood

            It began with the homosexuals whether you admit that or not.

          • Archangel

            Passed on to the hetrosexual community by faggots!

          • Lowell

            Percentage-wise, or in actual numbers? It makes a difference!!

          • Cami W

            Onlymyhumbleopinion, show documentation, 69% of AIDS have been spread by homosexuals, others by bi-sexual men giving AIDS to women, and the rest spread by drug users and at one time blood transfusions.

      • H. Wells

        And they are anti-gay because you say so? Or is it that they call homosexuality sin?

        • rodstew

          Yep, you got me….guilty as charged. God and I are against homosexuality, so we are both bigots.

      • Chuck Chuckson

        Because the anti-Christians use gays as a weapon to destroy Christian culture and civilization.

        • suzyshopper

          No what’s destroying Christian culture and civilization, is churches being lukewarm,preaching against sin , therefore God says, I will spit thee out of my mouth, pretty strong condemnation, in my opinion!!

      • Tracy Bryant Fisher

        go to ANY predominantly MUSLIM nation and see what they do to those who are openly homosexual…. it starts with a crowd and ends with the homosexual laying under a huge stack of rocks… they are stoned to death because it is strictly forbidden in the Quran… so your argument that Christians are the loudest bigots doesn’t cut the cheese… Christians may speak out against it, but they don’t KILL someone just because they don’t agree with their lifestyle choice like many other religions do.

        • Cami W

          Tracy Bryant Fisher, well said, not only that, Muslims are required “to lie in wait and ambush and slay all infidels (unbelivers), Quran, 9:3-5. Strange, people like Onlymyopinion are more afraid of Christians than they are the Muslims, which by the way, said: “My Muslim faith,” when being interviewed by George Steffenopolous..

          • Cami W

            Oops, Obama said: “my Muslim faith” Sorry!

          • Tracy Bryant Fisher

            Yes Cami W, he did say that and while he was campaigning for the WH, while still a senator, he was adamantly AGAINST gay marriage, but when he found out that he could get a few more votes, from the less than 3% of the American population that identify themselves as homosexual, he changed his stance, as he ALWAYS does when he thinks he can either get a vote for himself or another dip-o-crap or raise his approval rating. He will NEVER EVER get my approval for anything he does. He was also “Christian” while he was campaigning, because at least 70% of American’s proclaim to be Christians, but his interview with Steffenopolous clearly showed his truth religious leanings. He only has the approval and support of the predominately Muslim nations because they know if there is a Muslim in the chair on the “most powerful” nation on earth, then they have a friend who will come to their rescue. Which he has also said then he will always stand with the Muslims when he is asked to choose.

      • suzyshopper

        Than I guess u must include in your list of BIGOTS,GOD,JESUS CHRIST and his,disciples, guess were in good company then!

        • lisarichards124

          We are all bigots if we love Jesus, His Word, follow Him, head his Word, meditate on it. In that case: I a proud and loud Bigot!

  • Archangel

    This broad is an idiot! She dated disgraced congressman Anthony Wener! Nuff’ said!

    • SATCitizen

      WOW. . didn’t know she had dated the wiener. . . .you’re right. . .nuff aid!!

      • lisarichards124

        Kirsten’s beliefs are what is going on in the modern evangelical church that is conning those new to Christ.

        I’m praying for Kirsten, because I left my now former church a year and half-ago for it becoming tolerant and accepting of all things God warns: New age, homosexuality, Social Justice and more.

        7 of us families left after we all talked to the pastor and said we can’t stray in any way from Jesus, but the pastor said “we here focus only on the major and not the minor.” My answer was nothing in the Bible is minor and everything must be focused, we can’t give and take and give in on worldly things or we wind up straying from God and we can’t be blessed, and we also harm those we try to bring to Jesus. I was told “Lisa, if you don’t like it, just leave.”

        Fine, I left. I attend a home church with people who left their churches all for the same reasons: Everything Jesus and Paul warned about is happening and we can’t go along.

        So I pray for Kirsten, she is being mislead. We all as Christians should pray for God to open her eyes. I don’t want her or anyone lost. And she admits she was seeking, so we must pray God reveals His truth to her so she is not deceived any longer. Her church is lying to her.

        • SATCitizen

          Our goal is to get as many souls to Heaven as we can. . .and you are so right. . .always remember, BIBLE = Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth, we must run the good race and keep our eyes fixed on Christ. I will pray for you and yours and the families of your home church. . .when the day comes you will hear, “well done my good and faithful servant,” and then you will know you are home. Our blessing is to know we are not of this world and our lions are roaring, most importantly we know, “the gates of heII shall not prevail.” Keep posting the truth and keep on the full armor of God. May God continue to bless you and yours.

    • johnnywood

      :-( Saddened to hear that:-(

    • H. Wells

      We should use reasoned, Scripture supported arguments, presented with a love toward the deluded one to get our point across. Personal attacks are one of the reasons so many Americans are turning away from Christianity.

      • suzyshopper

        That may be so somewhat, but it can never be used as an excuse by the unsaved too condone habitual sin.I would also bet, if I was a betting woman, that most unsaved turn away from Christianity because, they love their sin, and won’t repent!

      • lisarichards124

        Her dating Weiner doesn’t make her evil. If anyone thinks a person new in Christ can’t be deceived, they are being fooled.

        Kirsten is being lied to by her church that is obviously posing as Born Again but twisting scripture and Jesus. And Kirsten, new in Christ, has no idea, because she accepted Jesus, but no one has bothered to mentor her Biblically to show her the truth. This is where Bible studies–not book studies, are vital. And must be taught by Biblical-based Christians who do not swat from the word.

        We should pray that this woman will see the truth so the truth sets her free.

  • lisarichards124

    Sorry Kirsten, but “the wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the
    godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their
    wickedness” (Romans 1:18).

  • johnnywood

    I like Kirsten Powers and she is my favorite Liberal,(actually the only Lib that I can stand to listen to), but she really needs to read the Bible and see what it says about any sin and especially homo-sex. GOD`s Word trumps her feelings and opinion.

  • lisarichards124

    I’m sorry to say that Kirsten Powers embodies what is really going on inside the modern-day evangelical churches: Tolerance, acceptance of what is unGodly and sinful in order to fill baskets and look good in the eyes of the world and not be called bigots.

    Jesus said we would be hated for following Him, persecuted–look at Pastor Saeed–we would be rejected even by our own families for choosing Jesus.

    We either follow Him, obey Him, live by His commands, realize that He “is the only truth, the way, and the life,” and His name is above all names, only He can bless and give life, only He can redeem, He does forgive if we turn to Him and want to change our ways, He will help us to resist temptation, which He told us to do, He told us not to follow the world and its ways, because “the wages of sin are death,” He said if we give in to sin, which we all are, but also have the capacity to resist, He will hand us over to our sins and let it have us until we finally cry out to Him.

    Christ gives us constant chances daily, every day, to change, to do right, but the modern-day church is infiltrated by progressives who are preaching Social Justice, which is not God’s Word or His justice, the churches are allowing gay marriages–not all, but its creeping in–New Age has invade big time with the lie called “Contemplative Prayer” which is nothing more than Taoism and transcendental meditation disguised with Biblical words to cover up the eastern rituals that it requires, and too many are not aware of eastern religions such as Taoism and what one does–but it exactly what Contemplative Prayer pushed by New Agers like Beth Moore are pushing in their so-called Christian books that is opening doors to what Paul warned: Another Jesus, false prophets, other Jesus,’ tempters, ear-ticklers, and many are being seized by lies–even those like Kirsten who love Jesus. She is being lied to by her church that is no doubt more into intellectual preaching–in fact she admitted to O’Reilly that that is the type of preaching it is–that blinds and fools and lies.

    Be awake, don’t be fooled. If you are fooled, read the Bible daily, meditate on it. There is a reason to: False prophets pushing this rubbish

    • Cami W

      Lisarichards, you are correct; I post with a supposedly a conservative woman who claims to be a Christian, yet, her minister is a lesbian. I don’t believe in women pastors especially one who is an active homosexual. God forbids homosexuality in the OT and the NT, not just a sin, but an “obmination.”

      • Reader

        Not to put too fine a point on it, but women pastors are also forbidden. If a “church” does not balk at changing Scriptures for their own purposes on that point, what stops them from abandoning Scriptures over anything else they want?

        • suzyshopper

          That’s exactly my point, I also think why would I want too sit under the teaching of a women, when’s she’s violating the dictates of scripture, if she can’t get something that is clearly stated in the Bible as wrong,why in heavens name, would I want too trust anything else she would say? I let the Bible say what it says, especially when it says it clearly, and not what I think it should say !!

      • suzyshopper

        You’d be surprised at how many forums, I’m on, that christians think it’s perfectly ok for a women too be pastors, there are two very good verses in the Bible that, pertain specifically, too a women’s standing in the church, 1 Corinthians 14:34-35and then there’s 1 Timothy 2:11-14, not only that, Jesus knew other women in the church, how come when he chose his disciples, they were all men,he chose to preach the gospel?Nowhere in the Bible, do I see a time limit on those above verses,or that they have been rescinded not only that, I would never sit under the teachings of a Women who supposedly knows the Bible but, can’t even interpret this small part of the Bible correctly,much less the rest if it! or that they have been rescinded. What I do see are women pastors trying too justify open rebellion against God, by saying things are different now, so my question, to them would be, do we now get too cherry pick, what parts of the Bible too follow, and which ones not too? Or do we try too follow all of the Bible too the best of ones ability?

        • Cami W

          Suzyshopper and Reader, I agree and thank you for responding. People twist the scriptures to make them try to mean what the “want” them to mean, Biblically, women aren’t supposed to be pastors or preachers. I debated one guy on a message board who claims to be a Christian, yet, didn’t believe Jesus wasn’t resurrected because He never died, he believed Jesus’ death and resurrection were only symbolic, I told him His death and resurrection is the very foundation of Christianity.

          • suzyshopper

            Om my,that is one confused person, who claims too be a Christian, not only that the whole Bible cannot be taken totally symbolically, yes there are some verses that are symbolic, but there are other verses to be taken literally, and then some, can be taken both ways, that why we MUST compare scripture with scripture, to come too truth.This so called Christian, does he believe the virgin birth is symbolic too?

          • Cami W

            Suzyshopper, he didn’t believe in the virgen birth, and yes, you are correct, we must compare scripture with scripture.

          • lisarichards124

            This is proof modern churches are lying and deceiving people. I see Kirsten as lied and fooled by her church that only wants her money in the basket

          • Dukeguy

            No, it’s proof that Kirsten, just like other people in the church since it began 2000 years ago, pick and choose what they want to believe in spite of what the pastor or church teaches and believes. And by the way, just what is a “modern” church? You seem to ride that hobby horse pretty hard. What defines a “modern church?”

      • suzyshopper

        Also the Bible says,we are not too keep company, with a sinning brother or sister but to point, out the sin, so they may repent of it, and then they will be restored to fellowship, with their brothers and sisters in Christ.

        • lisarichards124

          I can see in many interviews that Kirsten has no idea what the Bible really says, because she attends a church that really is not Born again, so she’s mislead and needs Jesus. We need to pray for her. prayers work miracles. We can pray or let her go and let the enemy have her

      • Wolf-Spider

        Are you using “obmination” as a slap to the Deceiver-in-Chief, or do you mean “abomination”?

        • Cami W

          A typo, couldn’t change it after I posted, what I get for typing in the dark; however, same difference since Obama has a lifetime membership in Chicago’s larges homosexual bath house and now supports homosexual marriage.

          • Wolf-Spider

            Disqus has an edit feature to it. I’ve used it on a number of occasions.
            I’ll take the spelling both ways. ^_^

  • Rob Price

    Kirsten Powers here is what GOD himself has to say on this topic. I Cor. 6:9-”Do you not know the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of GOD? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of GOD.” NKJ version
    If you believe in GOD, then you can not disapprove of his word, or live contrary to it and expect HIM to bless you or your Heathen beliefs. Sorry Kirsten!
    President Obama has broken at least 5 of these and shows no sign of changing his course either!
    Si vis pakem, para bellum”!
    Pray for peace, prepare for war!

  • Jason Hunt

    I’ll take the Bible over Kirsten’s opinion any day.

  • ratmandu

    A Bible Scholar She Ain’t !

    • Evan White

      What the heck???

      • ratmandu

        It’s called political satire.

    • lostproton

      Kirsten Powers is using the “Queen James” version of the Bible. It is a queers version where any reference to acts currently defined as homosexuality have been rewritten such that there is no negative connotation applied to those acts of sodomy. Search out, down load and read what was changed to the “King James Bible” to Produce the “Queen James” version of the Bible; then you will understand the warnings in the Bible of false prophets.

    • lisarichards124

      Agree, and proof she needs Jesus and is being lied to. We need to pray God opens her eyes, because her church is not giving her right council in the Bible

  • Art Istick

    I’ve yet to find someone who can explain why homosexual sodomy is not a criminal act.

    • H. Wells

      Liberal judges decided it is not.

      • AlanCR

        Are these the same ones that said it is O.K. to abort?

        • sandraleesmith46

          Pretty much so.

    • sandraleesmith46

      It used to be, back when it was also still listed as a behavioral disorder in the DSM III.

  • carlcasino

    Just another “proof point” that claiming to be a Christian and a Liberal/progressive is a complete oxymoron. You are one or the other. I have witnessed Kristen “mellowing” over the past year she might just turn out to be a Christian yet.

  • deseartu1

    People want to live in de nial – and NO it is not a river in Egypt!

  • coconuisse

    If God is for something, then the Accuser is against it, It is quite obvious whose side the “liberals” and other “politically correct” devotees have chosen to support.

  • Mario

    I keep waiting and waiting – yet, every time I see Kirsten Powers have a conversation with someone – she gets her ass handed to her. Is she really that dumb? Guess so.

  • James Frankin

    Of the traditional marriages only 36 to 39 per cent are surviving. Because focus has been taken away from the family and pointed to the importance of other types of marriage. The odds of any marriage a young Marine corp widow left with 3 children. While the government focuses on everything but our own men and women and their children. I myself have lost one son due to the stress on family. To point at anyone is not my intention. The American landscape is not kind to family’s. Wealth builders and, corporate enigma’s now control the landscape. The sad part is the church suffers as much as the family’s. Pastor John Hagee quotes it this way we have stopped following Jesus and began following each other. The media streams cause a lot of this. The social networks and websites. Keep your focus on Christ and, not what I post. I am just one who listens as each of you do. I love my fellow Americans and, pray for my great-grandchildren we turn each other back to Christ and, the church. We all are to blame and, I pray daily that it ceases.

  • 4grands

    Kristen is trying hard, but she just can’t let go of her liberal beliefs. Pity the family she married into, it must be hell for them.

  • 2EdgedSword

    The written and published agenda of the Communist/Socialist Party published in 1958 includes these goals among its forty five:

    24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them
    “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.

    25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting
    pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

    26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as
    “normal, natural, healthy.”

    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion
    with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need
    for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”

    Less than a decade elapsed before the Communist/Socialist paraphrases of the Authorized KJV began to be pushed by marketing experts in the marketplace, heralded by the corrupt hierarchies of established churches as a new enlightenment. In each and every one of them, the word SODOMITE was eliminated.which appears seven times in the Word of God. Following is that list for your inspection -

    Deut 23:17
    [17] There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

    I Kings 14:
    [24] And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel.

    I Kings 15:12
    [12] And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.

    I Kings 22:46
    [46] And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land.

    2 Kings 23:7
    [7] And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove.

    4 Ezra 7:36
    [36] Then said I, Abraham prayed first for the Sodomites, and Moses for the fathers that sinned in the wilderness:

    Wis 19:14
    [14] For the Sodomites did not receive those, whom they knew not when they came: but these brought friends into bondage, that had well deserved of them.

    • Wolf-Spider

      What book is “Wis”?

  • suzyshopper

    Short and sweet, and too the point!

  • southernsue

    she needs to study the BIBLE

    JESUS/GOD will judge homos and all of us

    it is the homo activist that get in your face that i can’t stand

    i know a few homos that live in quiet harmony with straights and they seem happy

    it’s the “in your face activist” that i can’t stand

  • Tommyzax

    It’s not about hubris. Any person or personality can be made to stand challenge against any other. It’s about LAW. God’s Law.

    Male homosexual act = abomination = stoning. Twice in the commandments. If you follow Torah, you can ask Powers, “What gives you the right to mess with the commandments?” BUT.. if you do.. you’d better be following what Jesus said, which is, “Whoever disobeys AND teaches against the least commandment shall be called least…”

    The problem is, when you disembowel the Law for your own purposes, you look stupid invoking the parts you like.

    Accept the Law of God (Torah) fully, and you can tell Kirsten Powers that she is in violation of Jewish/Catholic/Protestant/Muslim (yes) Law, which comes from God, directly. Fight over God’s Law, and which applies to whom, and watch collectivists make their own law to destroy you.

    • suzyshopper

      That is so true,Tommyzax.

  • Backlash Payne

    I dunno, about this argument. I have been a Christian a fairly long time, and have looked into this subject for the past 45 years or so. The remark regarding marriage was in response to a specific question, the answer then is extrapolated by the author into a much wider coverage to support his ideology rather than answer the question whether homosexuality is right or sin. I have know homosexuals all my life (a few of them God fearing, Jesus loving Christians), and am related to several homosexual men. They are homosexual because God made them that way. As a Christian I will continue to consider them God’s children, same as the rest of us, as I have for 45 years. If there is any judging to be done, I will leave that up to God. From a governmental standpoint, I think there should be a Civil Union Spousal Relationship, not marriage, but a legal mechanism by which men and women may form same sex legal spousal relationships as protected by law. As for God’s law, I think we would do better to follow the 13th commandment and work the rest out from there.

    • Bob Haber

      What a bunch of lies !!! The doctrine of demons is taught by demons….

    • suzyshopper

      Im sorry but u are mistaken,u can’t put this on God,God would never create a person too be gay, and then in the same breath contradict himself in his own word and say it’s and abomination, even worthy of death. It doesn’t matter how God fearing u may think your friends are,God laid down the perimeters of marriage, can’t u see how it would be a contradiction, if God said something was wrong in one part of his word, but in another part it’s ok ?The only way a so called Christian can justify being gay, is by blaming God for his sin,and that the prohibitions back in those days, don’t apply too now, all true Christians can see the slippery slope that would be. Because then we’d have too question,everything we read, wether it is truth or not.God explicitly says in a list of those who will not inherit the kingdom and, homosexuals are one of the groups, do u think a just God would condemn, something if he had created it? I don’t think so,your so called gay Christian friends are living in rebellion against God, and can look forward too, his corrective hand, or God will give him up too their sin, and they will be eternally damned.You can’t have it both ways, it would be like saying abortion and immorality are ok with God, because we think it is .Oh by the way what might that 13 th commandment be?

    • H. Wells

      I want to make sure I understand what you are saying. You seem to be saying that God made these men you know have sex with other men. Is that about it?

    • Florence Millard

      As I have said before, “God does NOT make mistakes!” Homosexuality is a CHOSEN way of life, chosen by the sinner.

  • azcowboy

    Haha…good job Doug. But of course…it’s like talking to a wall…they will keep on spinning it to make themselves feel righteous and to accommodate THEIR beliefs…forget about what that scandalous Jesus said…he didn’t really mean it that way.

  • sbruce1154

    Before you listen to anything that Kirsten Powers has to say you need to know that used to live with Anthony Wiener. That should tell you more then you need to know about her.

    • lisarichards124

      We can’t base her desire to find Jesus on that. She’ s new in Christ and being deceived. And hasn’t there been any Christian deceived to date an unbeliever to pull them form God?

      But this is a woman who is still finding God and her church teachings are lying to her. shouldn’t we all pray for her so she really does come to know Christ, or let her go down in the pit

      • David Mills
        • lisarichards124

          David, if this pastor is as he says, then I don’t doubt he has already spoken to Kirsten and I hope he can convince her, or at least–if he can’t, because we all have free will and we have to humble our hearts to the Holy Spirit–I hope he will tell Kirsten that what she believes is not Jesus, its another Jesus, a false doctrine, a lie of progressive leftists who are infiltrating churches across America to destroy this country.

          If Kirsten is truly ignorant, she’ll go and think about it, if she’s just radical, she’ll go on lying. Either way, this pastor has to take her to task and say look, what you are falling for and believing is not Christ

  • Liberty

    What part of Jesus’ “Go and Sin No More” doesn’t she understand? And by the way, the flood and the promise of the rainbow came BEFORE the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. God promised he would not destroy the entire world; he didn’t say he wouldn’t selectively clean house. It’s ironic that homosexuals use the symbol to justify its dirty deeds.

    • lisarichards124

      She is being mislead and needs our prayers. Her church is teaching false teachings. I’ve heard her discuss this church, it’s where she first heard about being Born again, so she’s been lied to in a modern-style church that is off-base. More reason we must pray for Kirsten

      • Dukeguy

        And just what do you KNOW about this church? Do you know the name of the church? Do you know who the pastor is? Do you know what the official stance of the church is on this subject? Do you know what the pastor has publicly stated to be his belief about homosexuality? The church: Redeemer Presbyterian. The pastor: Tim Keller. The official stance of the church: opposed to homosexuality.(I know because I have read their official statement.) Pastor’s publicly stated belief: opposed to homosexuality. (Easy to find.) So what we have here is a case of a new Christian who either doesn’t know what God’s word says, or like so many others that can be found in every church, she chooses to disagree with her pastor and the Bible.

        • lisarichards124

          Yeah, that’s exactly how my now former church is publicly stated, but behind the scenes, they are doing the exact opposite while telling the public another.

          My former church’s soc-called official stance says the same, but secretly inside, it is doing opposite.

          The pastor–my former pastor– publicly states one thing to get the pews full and money, but behind scenes it’s opposite, and unless you were in the church a long time, and you found out these things, you wouldn’t know.

          A church can publicly state one thing and do the opposite.

          I believe Kirsten seriously doesn’t know God’s word at all. She is new, she even said so, she even said she has no background other than being titled a Christian, but no biblical background–she told this to O’Reilly last year, so she is easily fooled not having any Biblical background and only the title of being baptised christian as a baby.

          • Dukeguy

            So you’re judging this church and pastor based on what you perceive to be flaws in your former church, not actual evidence that you can present. I’m sure you’re right that a church or leader can publicly say one thing and do the opposite. But it’s also true that a church or leader can make public statements and then live by them. Unless you have evidence to back up your statements then you are just pedaling accusations.

            1 Tim 5:19 Do not admit a charge against an elder except on the evidence of two or three witnesses.

            So where’s your evidence?

            And another question – Why are you so quick to defend Kirsten? It’s all the pastor and church’s fault according to you. Do you know that she has not heard the pastor or church’s teaching on this matter? That’s a little hard to believe seeing as how Tm Keller’s statements about homosexuality are all over You Tube and the Huffington Post. Maybe, as I said in another reply, she is just rebelling against God’s word.

          • Lugh

            Pastor Chuck Baldwin said only about 15% of Churches preach the real thing anymore. Most of the others cater to Women and Women like Oprah, Gays, and Political Correctness.

          • Dukeguy

            And what makes him an expert and how does he arrive at that number? From what I can see, he seems to be an internet hack who’s looking for donations.

          • Reader

            I’m all for 1 Tim 5:19 in general practice. In personal experience, I have dealt with ‘elders’ that made the application of 1 Tim 5:19 impossible by presenting a stone wall where they were the only witnesses to their hypocrisies and abuses when they would never turn on each other. They would publicly proclaim a Biblical position, but when they had to deal with an issue of sin inside the church, they would takes sides based on the convenience of dealing with the issue or their own sinful desires, not based on the Biblical stance they had presented before. They made especially careful, though, that there was only ever 1 witness against them so that non could righteously bring an accusation against them. Instead, no matter what, it was always multiple witnesses against the person they were abusing. (In some cases, said person was deserving of church discipline, but not in all cases, and not always the person they were eager to discipline.
            That said, I do not have reason to believe such is happening in this case. If your links are the public position of her pastor, I have no reason to believe that he is inconsistent with those beliefs when dealing with the congregation. That leaves one of several forms of self-deceit as remaining options.

          • Dukeguy

            I’m truly sorry to hear that has been your experience. Obviously a person that would do something of that nature does not fit the qualifications of an elder.

            However, that does not negate the truth of scripture or its application in this case.

          • Reader

            Dukeguy: At the same time, I do not recognize them as elders, no matter what the church the lead has said. When I left them, I confronted them over their sin, then told them I would never willingly put myself in their presence again without first repentance on their part. I have lost friends over that because of leaving that church.
            At the same time, I respected the Scriptural mandate. I could not present multiple witnesses to their sin, and I was not about to have any more to do with them. I have not raised accusations against them lacking additional witnesses, and if I am in a situation such as this to mention them, I give no information on names, church, city, state, etc. It is sad because they have a LOT of good Bible knowledge and doctrine, but refuse some of the most important applications of it to themselves.

          • lisarichards124

            No not judging, stating fact: It is a sad fact that Christian churches are being infiltrated by the left across America. I hope it is not happening there. If it’s not then Kirsten needs a good talking to by this pastor. If he is teachings are Biblical based as you say, I really hope he comes out and publicly states she is is not believing what Jesus taught.

          • Dukeguy

            Judge – to form an opinion, to decide, to give a verdict on someone

            You came at this with a definitive, formed opinion. And you weren’t stating facts about her pastor or church.

            I would be the first to say with you that the church is struggling with this issue, as well as a whole host of other cultural issues right now. (Have you checked the numbers on how many “Christian couples” are shacking up these days?)

            But that doesn’t give you or me or anyone the right to disparage good people and good churches based on unsupported claims. If we are supposed to be people of integrity and righteousness then our words should reflect both truth and grace.

          • lisarichards124

            The majority of churches in America have become progressive, they have fallen for the left-wing tolerance crap, they focus not on the entire Bible but on what makes the bench warmers feel good.

            Heaven forbid we insult basket fillers by calling homosexuality and abortion an abomination. We have a high rate of abortion in evangelical churches, which have mostly fallen a sleep since the 60s because its best to cater, to tolerate, to go along with modern society.

            I will disparage the modern-day churches just as Paul disparaged the ancient churches for following false prophets, for not doing what was sound, for ignoring the Gospel.

            Today’s churches are not creating strong Christians but weak tolerant left wing progressives who think Social Justice is good, it’s okay, it’s okay to be gay, it’s okay to live in sins.

            Couples in churches are shaking up because the churches fell a sleep and dont have the guts to stand up to people and say you are living a sinful life that goes against Jesus, it goes against the Bible.

            Truth and grace also have to come with a double edged sword of truth and say this is wrong: shacking up is sin, homosexuality and adultery, which is becoming the norm in modern churches are sinful.

            I don’t have unsupported claims when so many Christian news papers are reporting that the majority of modern churches follow the world. When so many churches have people leaving because of going along with the world, that says we have a problem.

            The number of christian couples shaking up is extremely high–but they are not Christian followers of Christ, they are just bench-warming do-gooders.

            The same goes for the high rate of abortion, adultery, porn addiction among so-called Christian husbands is high.

            And you tell me I can’t disparage? I will disparage the modern church. It’s a disgrace to Jesus, it has fallen into temptation and not asked to be delivered.

            We have few true Christian Christ centered churches i this country. It’s pretty sad when China has a high number of Jesus centered churches and all they read is the Bible and not lying filth like the shack and Beth Moore new age.

            The definitive proof lies in the fact that churches today are more interested in attracting intellects, preaching intellectually versus Gospel-based, because we must cater to the young educated crowd. We must look good, our churches must be opulent temples with nice words that tickle the ears so we dont lose the basket money.

            We need to go back to old time teaching and preaching: Jesus and nothing more than the Word of God

          • Dukeguy

            Wow, I don’t even know where to start on that tirade. Again, since you can’t seem to get this, your so called evidence is all generalized assumptions based on what…something said in a “Christian newspaper?” Did your “Christian newspaper” give details about the pastor and church we are talking about in this string? If so, who gave those details? Are they verifiable?

            You say Paul disparaged the church, so you will too. Can you quote me chapter and verse on that one?

            Disparage – To regard or represent as being of little worth or value

            I don’t know of anywhere Paul ever did that. In fact, Paul never told anyone to leave the church because it just wasn’t getting things right. Instead, he encouraged them to hang in and do the hard work of discipleship and conflict resolution.

            All of this makes me wonder what your current church is like. I assume your church has all this figured out. Wow, it must be that elusive church so many search for – the perfect church!

            I wonder what you’re going to do when you find the sin that already exists in your current church (you just can’t see it yet)?

          • lisarichards124

            I left my church 2 years-ago for tolerating sin.

            As to Paul, he constantly chastised the churches for their false prophets and gossip and preaching another Jesus and not adhering to the Gospel.

            As to today’s churches, they deserve to be disparaged for too many allowing false teaching.

            I never said Paul said leave church, so don’t put false words in my mouth, Paul chastised and told off the churches for not acting according to Jesus, but never said leave church. He write letters encouraging, but also putting churches in their places for their actions and misconduct.

            Now you’re just trying to place words in my mouth because you’re seeking an argument.

            Time wasted.

    • buck

      mabey she tends to lean in that direction herself !? hey kisten, just shut up and go home !!

  • Hanakokolele

    If you read the Holy Bible, the Word of God, the God that formed each of us in our mother’s womb, ordained marriage as a “covenant” for one man and one woman in the garden of eden when He created the first male (Adam) and the first female (eve). Since that “day one” on earth, throughout centuries, culturals may have changed, men changed, but God almighty is the same yesterday, the same today and the same tomorow. God our Creator said “I changed Not.” In your mother’s womb, God made you a perfect male or a perfect female. . “nothing else.” He does NOT create homosexuals or lesbians in the womb that He calls sin in His Bible to contradict His Holy Word. God is love, “absolutely.” But many, yes many have forgotten that God is also “Holy.” HE will not allow His love that His holiness condemned. Kristen Powers may call herself a Christian but not a born again Christian. A born again Christian abides in God’s Holy Word and Kristen unfortunately disagrees with God’s standard of marriage. God will have the last word on judgment Day. There will be no second chance to those who have rejected God’s Holy Word and Jesus Christ.

  • lisarichards124

    Let’s all remember that those new in Christ as Kirsten is are easily fooled. The devil loves to come in on you when you are new in Jesus and fool you, this is why Bible mentoring is so vital.

    Kirsten is being lied to, deceived, her church is obviously not Jesus-based, but another Jesus and most likely loves her weekly basket filling.

    I pray for her that her eyes will be open to the truth and the truth of Jesus Christ will set her free.

    How many of us were fooled when new in Jesus? Everyone at some point until we got into the Word and found the truth. That takes someone mentoring you and pointing out truth from lies.

    Kirsten has a good heart, she wants Jesus, but being fooled is blinding her, so why arent we praying the blinders come off

    • Dukeguy

      “…her church is obviously not Jesus-based…” And how do you know this to be true? (Read earlier reply.)

      “Kirsten has a good heart…” If she knows what the Bible says and rejects it, she has a rebellious heart.

      • lisarichards124

        It can say it’s Jesus based, my now former church states that, as well as stating things so Christ-like, but behind the scenes it is doing opposite. Publicly the pastor sounds so Jesus-based, but behind scenes he is blinding people and purposely catering to famous people like Kirsten to get them into church for the look, the image and money.

        So, i have to wonder if this pastor is doing the same, because Kirsten says this is where she was lead to Jesus, so someone is not mentoring her in the Bible or telling her she’s blind

        • Dukeguy

          Again, you present no evidence, just baseless accusations. (See earlier reply)

          • lisarichards124

            I’m only saying any church can say one thing publicly and then do something entirely different behind scenes. Now, if her pastor is Jesus-based, he needs to take her aside and lovingly talk with her and tell her that her views are anti-Jesus, that her views are not Biblical. I hope this pastor will do that. If he is a strong Jesus follower then I don’t doubt he will

        • http://www.truthanchor.com/ Thessalonianguy

          If a church does not conduct themselves under the authority of God’s Word, they are not serving Christ.

    • David Mills

      Wrong. She attends Redeemer Presbyterian in NYC…it is a PCA Church which is the very conservative branch that broke away from the PCUSA over this very issue. Her minister is Dr. Tim Keller who preaches the correct view of marriage, easily verifiable because his sermons are downloadable.

      • lisarichards124

        Then he needs to talk to her. I’m sure though if he has if what you are saying is true. I’ll take your word for it. Now lets hope this woman has a an awakening by the Holy Spirit. But that only happens according to the heart that lets Him in

  • jong

    I said some time ago when it came out that this bi tch was a “born again christian” that I had to laugh. Nothing had changed with her or her comments. Neither was anything expected by me for her changing her ways. My advice to her is to go back working as a prostitute for the DNC its much more honest work for here and Wasserman-Schultz

  • foxxybey

    Can’t fix dumb, stupid and blind and she is all three.

  • victorbarney

    It’s even worse foxxybey. “Evil” can’t be fixed, it must be “killed” as made evident in the Hebrew(NOT GREEK)-inspired Scriptures(Zeph. 3:9, Acts 26:14, 1 Cor. 4:6) and only because Lucifer(Satan) is being “allowed” to remain on earth to build “righteous” character for the called-out ones during this age, where “Lucifer” still is being allowed to LIE, LIE, & LIE AND DECEIVE us, who have not been called-out just yet! Our given 6,000 years is just about over foxxybey and Revelation’s chapters 7 & 11 both reveal only 144,000 equally divided “Israelites”(only 1 of the 12 tribes of “Israel” are “Judah” by the way) surviving with the tribe of Joseph replacing the tribe of Dan as being protected during these last days, along with the 144,000 SABBATHS KEEPING(7th DAY & Specified Annual Sabbaths from Passover through the Last Great Day each year) Spiritual Assembly members, who are generally affiliated with the ICY headed by elder Gary Miller of Arkansas, the “Eliyah” who must come first, also as written…

  • top2004

    And all these things shall come to pass in the last day.

  • carlcasino

    I think Kristen is really a closet conservative but her job is to play liberal. The truth is liberalism and Christianity is an oxymoron and also incompatible.

    • Wolf-Spider

      Kirsten, not Kristen. Think Dunst.

    • blowingoffgodot

      Christianity and liberalism are incompatible?

      You do realize, of course, that Jesus is the guy who preached feeding the poor and paying taxes while travelling with 12 guys and a prostitute.

      • Troll Alert

        Troll, do not feed.

        • blowingoffgodot

          Okay, Yoda.

      • Chuck Chuckson

        There’s nothing “Compassionate” or “Tolerant” about liberalism. Liberalism has more in common with the Spanish Inquisition than Jesus Christ.

        • blowingoffgodot

          Really? Is it liberals who lamented the overturning of sodomy laws in the United States? Is it liberals who want to punish the children of illegal immigrants? Is it liberals who protested the opening of a Muslim community center? Is it liberals who started the war on drugs to incarcerate people suffering with drug addiction? Is it liberals who knowingly lied to congress (and the world) to start an unnecessary war? Is it liberals who are trying to protect their right to discriminate against other people based solely on who they love and how?

          It was liberals, on the other hand, who devised social programs to feed the poor and provide care for the elderly, it was a liberal president who dreamt up the civil rights act of 1964 and another liberal president who signed it, it was liberals who fought to decriminalize what some of us do in our bedrooms, it was liberals who sought to provide better care for the sick by overhauling the private insurance system.

          Yes, mistakes have been made on all sides and nothing is in black and white; but it’s pretty obvious which side is more tolerant and compassionate than the other.

          • Chuck Chuckson

            Liberalism is asymmetrical warfare against Western Civilization and White people.

            The “Compassion” bit is just an act. “Tolerance” is just a gimmick immediately discarded when anyone disagrees with your aims.

            Liberalism is nothing more than a fanatical religion devoted to degeneracy and White Genocide.

          • blowingoffgodot

            You’re delusional.

          • Chuck Chuckson
  • Lugh

    Let’s face it, the women around Jesus covered themselves up like Muslim Women. Real Christian women would do likewise – in a Western sense of course: long dresses, etc. The old Puritans knew that girls needed more guidance than boys.

    • blowingoffgodot

      And you people wonder why we call you the “American Taliban”.

  • blowingoffgodot

    So Jesus says that when a man and a woman are married they become one flesh and that is why God made men and women differently. I’ll accept that.

    It is non sequitur to infer that this means that this is any sort of condemnation of homosexual relationships. After all, simply because God joins together male and female, it does not necessarily mean that he does not also sometimes join male and male or female and female.

    Furthermore, what does Christian dogma have to do with legal recognition of committed romantic partnerships? The Establishment Clause clearly prevents legislating with a purely theological rationale and the Equal Protection Clause prevents legislating to abridge the equal protections of any person subject to American laws.

    Constitutionally, the legal distinction given to one subset of committed romantic partnerships versus another based solely on the anatomy of the parties involved seems arbitrary. Seeing as religious arguments (by themselves) cannot dictate civil law, I have a hard time comprehending why something some carpenter named Josh said 2000 years ago is at all relevant to this debate.

    • Wolf-Spider

      “After all, simply because God joins together male and female, it does
      not necessarily mean that he does not also sometimes join male and male
      or female and female.”
      Can you open your computer and put cables male-male or female-female without the opposite component and expect it to run properly? Can you attach an extension cord backward to a wall socket and an appliance’s plug and expect it to run? In the same way God made human and animal to function as male-female, so did human make technology to run the same fashion. Any other way would be anathema to nature.

      • blowingoffgodot

        False analogy. Human love and computer cables are extremely different concepts.

        • Wolf-Spider

          Same general functions. Life and technology follow the same natural principles. Love is one thing. Homosexuality is not love; It is (I use this term loosely) purely lust and dominance. Another term is abuse. It is no different from drugs or alcohol. The lie is “Once you’re in this lifestyle, there is no getting out of it.” Ask any recovering alcoholic. Glenn Beck is an example of a recovering alcoholic.

          • blowingoffgodot

            I’m a gay man. The two serious long term relationships I was in were every bit as loving as any homologous heterosexual relationship could be. It’s not about lust so much as having somebody to cuddle and watch a movie with; romance is every bit as important to gay people as it is to straight people.

            It is incidental that the people I am predominantly romantically attracted to happen to be other males.

          • Wolf-Spider

            I figured you’re a pervert by the way you’re antagonizing. You CAN get out of that lifestyle. There IS hope for you. I will be one of the ones to congratulate you on kicking that choice to the curb.
            “…were every bit as loving as any homologous heterosexual relationship could be.”
            Yeah? Try telling that to my (dead) uncle’s ex-wife. She is no longer in those kinds of relationships.
            Have you tried my extension cord analogy?

          • http://www.truthanchor.com/ Thessalonianguy

            Please check out this site;

            http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/ex-gay.html

            You are also more than welcome to visit my site;

            http://www.truthanchor.com

          • MildBill

            Wow, didn’t see that one coming !

      • MildBill

        Perhaps this is why you don’t see many Gay plumbers. . . If a Gay person were to observe someone at a gas station putting the gas nozzle up their tailpipe or their dipstick in their radiator, would they notice the obvious abnormality ? . . . Without even getting into the religious aspects of Homosexuality, you would think deductive reasoning would convey the message, but it doesn’t. . . . You would think that the social implications or medical concerns would dissuade anyone’s participating in such perverse activities, but it seems that is not the case. . . . The only out is to change GOD’s Word to accommodate their bent for immoral practice. . . .The Gay community seems to think if they get Homosexuality into the public venue enough, it will be accepted. . . . All they have served to do is force people to consider the horrible facts surrounding Homosexuals and make a stand. . . Given that the vast majority of people are Normalsexuals, they can only succeed in deepening the divide between Normalsexuals and Homosexuals. . . Their efforts are backfiring on them, yet again they think they are making progress, as is typical of the Liberal mindset. . . . Will they ever learn ? . . . I doubt it !

    • http://www.truthanchor.com/ Thessalonianguy

      It’s sad to see nonsense like this. You have no idea what you’re stating. There are so many contradictions in what you post it’s almost embarrassing.

      • blowingoffgodot

        Such as?

        • http://www.truthanchor.com/ Thessalonianguy

          1.God clearly, in multiple passages in both Old and New Testaments, specifically names actions and heart-attitudes that He considers sinful. Homosexuality (and other sexual immoralities) is included. A simple search of the term will yields numerous results.

          2. The term ‘abomination’ is applied to many actions, homosexuality, cross-dressing, etc., is included under that moniker.

          3. ‘Christian dogma’ was the foundational framework used to construct both federal and state laws – especially at the time of the formation of the USA. Any good (meaning an unadulterated-by-liberal rewriting textbook) will show this fact.

          4. The non-existent ‘Establishment Clause’ prevent any one Christian Sect from becoming enshrined in the government. It has nothing to do with the morality used to formulate law.

          5. The “Equal Protection Clause’ does not apply to those who violate the law. Incest, necrophilia, pedophilia, etc., are not ‘protected’ activities, just as homosexuality is/was not protected.

          6. According to your logic a man should be allowed to marry his mother – or father, for that matter. Or why not BOTH mother and father, or sisters, or brothers, or cats, or sheep, or…you get the point – I hope.

          The simple fact is that sin is sin. We are powerless to overcome sin, which is why the Lord came in the first place. The Person you so flippantly call “Josh” has the power to free you from sin, but you have to repent and believe the gospel. It works for thieves, murderers, drunks, prostitutes, homosexuals – everyone.

          http://www.truthanchor.com

          • Wolf-Spider

            Qapla’! ^_^

          • http://www.truthanchor.com/ Thessalonianguy

            :)

    • Tinman Jones

      Hey BlowoffMan,
      Your own dogma is pretty lame. There is no dogma in using Scripture to get to the heart of God. Here is one thing that spares you and many others like you from coming face to face with the fallacy of following the whims of the devil–it is the fact that there are enough people praying to a loving God for individuals like yourself every day to realize there is no truth in living for pleasure.
      God wants pleasure for us all, but when it has been spelled out Scripturally for us how to live a fulfilling life, there is not much sense in testing the winds inside the pleasure dome. Pleasure comes to its extreme best when done right, whether it’s physical pleasure or mental/academic pleasure or “job-well-done” euphoria or whatever the pleasure is. But when pleasure is pursued for no apparent reason other than shaking a fist at God or just pure disregard of the character of God, then individuals like you become anti-dogma, persisting that God is dead.
      Just in case you have forgotten, look up in the New Testament the mention of “unnatural” relations–men lusting for one another–and it’s another clear distinction of how God designed life to be lived (or NOT lived). Your comments about the Constitution reek of such raw misunderstanding of what inspired a group of men to divine such an instrument that inspired the notion that you and me have been endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights, which we are exercising. The Constitution is a living, breathing document that is not to be interpreted, just as the Bible is not to be interpreted. The Bible is Truth, and the Constitution is a truthful declaration of how a government and its citizens should exist in Liberty.
      Romans 12:12!

      • blowingoffgodot

        Romans was written by St. Paul. He was not a prophet, nor was he quoting Jesus.

        Try again.

        • Wolf-Spider

          Paul was IN FACT an Apostle. The definition of “Apostle” is “To be sent”, or “one who is sent”. He met Jesus on the road to Emaus, and spent three years after being healed of his blindness learning more about Jesus. He was as much an Apostle as Andrew, James, Bartholomew / Nathaniel, Peter, or John. He was the one sent to the Gentiles.

          • blowingoffgodot

            Hitting your head and having a hallucination is very different from “meeting Jesus”. Regardless, why should your religious beliefs dictate my civil rights?

          • Wolf-Spider

            Why would Paul hallucinate someone he had never encountered before that point?

            To what civil rights are you referring, the right to murder thousands by disease, the right to drug overdoses, the right to lie to yourself?

          • Puttermutt

            Paul met Jesus Christ on the road to Damascus, not the road to Emaus.

          • Wolf-Spider

            You’re right. I hate having mental slips like that. Jesus met two mourners on the road to Emaus. My bad. ^_^¡
            Thanks for pointing out my error.

        • Tinman Jones

          “Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer.” That is Romans 12:12, and since I have been a Christian now for 24 years, this is the simplest exhortation on how to live a life changed by God’s GRACE. What a great opportunity I have every day I wake up to know I have hope because of the Cross Jesus died upon and the eternity in heaven He promised to me for believing in Him and confessing my sins, and it confirms that there will be difficult times that I need to wait out instead of fighting to get whatever it is right now or perhaps there will be persecution somewhere in which patience will be the most important thing, and finally praying for not just my issues but praying for other people and situations daily. Bless our loving God for being patient with us when we don’t measure up to His standards. Hope, patience, and prayer are essential. Now, about Paul, your comment above shows . . . well, nevermind. I worry for you, therefore I will pray for you BlowoffMan! Romans 12:12!

    • lifeissogood

      The Bible, which is God’s written word, clearly states that only man and woman shall be joined as one. Any other relationships, such as man and man, are unnatural and to be condemned.
      In the spirit of a respectful debate, since you clearly deny God, the teachings of the Bible and the influence of used by the men who wrote the Constitution will not be the basis of my argument.

      Marriage is a man made institution. The laws concerning marriage were Biblically inspired and created. It can even be called a morality law as most of our laws are. Nowhere in the Bible does it state man shall stand before man to be joined in the eyes of God. Marriage was created by man for financial gains and control of the people.
      Marriage is a legal term which state the limitations and regulations of this created institution. No matter how many times man writes or rewrites these laws, only one group will be recognized in the eyes of God, man and woman.

      What right does man have to put limitations on ‘marriage’? Why were couples forced to be checked for STDs before being allowed to marry? Why limit the rewrite to include just homosexuals? Why shouldn’t brothers and sisters be allowed to ‘marry’? Why is there an age restriction? Why is ‘marriage’ limited to romantic partnerships between humans?
      As you rightfully pointed out, what about the Equal Protection Clause?

      I’m confident you’re not going to jump on that moral soapbox and start preaching how brothers and sisters marrying is wrong. I’m confident you’re not going to try to argue that a 5 year old can decide they are the wrong gender but not know if they wish to marry or that a person can’t fall in ‘love’ and have sexual relations with a non-human. That would be interjecting your own moral beliefs and ignoring the Equal Protection Clause.

      Since marriage was created by man, it’s laws follow what the morals of society dictates. At this time, the majority of the populous do not accept homosexual ‘marriage’. When given the opportunity to rewrite marriage laws to include homosexual ‘marriage’ it has repeatedly been denied only to be forced on the public by court decree.

      Like it or not, marriage is a man made institution based on moral values instilled by Biblical teachings. It is the same morals that tell us murder is wrong that tells us homosexual ‘marriage’ is also. You must remember it’s not just America that makes this statement but the entire world.

      There are but two choices for homosexual ‘marriage’ to be condoned. Either A) Destroy the moral beliefs of everyone in the world.
      B) Destroy the institution of marriage.
      Since 85% of the world hold some type of religious belief, B would be your most likely option. Until such time as either option A or B is instituted, homosexual ‘marriage’ will never be accepted as normal and natural.
      That ‘carpenter’ is quite relevant to our society as a whole. Denial won’t change this fact.

  • Tinman Jones

    The problem, besides America’s rampant race to be the most hedonistic society with the most rampant sin issue that falls for a lot of people under the “I am who I am” umbrella, is that there is a phrase in the preamble of the Constitution that makes all the difference in getting this gay crap recognized.
    The phrase is “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”, and as long as the rainbow flag waving crowd increases, we will find enough judges who will side with those words by believing that a couple of tootsie fruitsies who want to get a ring on the ol’ finger are having their right to those three things infringed upon.
    Well, with the idiot in the WH and his idiot veep and their idiot underlings all agreeing to put these tootsie fruitsie supreme court justices in their seats, it is an indictment of the gullability of the urban masses to think that the “change” that was promised would be rooted in any sensible ideology.
    The last two elections have turned into the most colossal duping of any group of citizens. Even the war-machine evil one of Germany at least protected the lives of some of the citizens. Our prez is lower than that man just based on his disregard for Americans in any season of living.
    Christians, Romans 12:12, until we are finally victorious!

  • MAH

    Like Jane Fonda who also became a Christian and people gravitate towards her because of who she is, doesn’t understand that Powers is a babe in Christ and knows very little about Christianity. Like it states in Hebrews, that they need milk first, and not solid food for they cannot comprehend many of the issues of the day, for in quoting men and their books is not necessarily the word of God, but others opinions. Bob Beckel is the same, being a liberal Christian and giving his opinion of what he understands as truth, but not getting into the meat of the Word, leaves him wondering in time and space with out the rudder of knowledge and understanding of what true Christianity really is. This easy believism which is touted as Christianity today, is far from the truth of God’s law/word, for just quoting scripture, is not necessarily truth or even Christianity, for God holds every one accountable for every word that proceeds out of their mouth. Powers and others need time to grow in knowledge and grace before they become spokesman’s for God, except to give out the simple truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Doctrine is the foundation of God’s law/word and until they understand the foundation, they are babes and will remain babes as long as there is no growth in their understanding. My suggestion to Powers and other new born Christians, is to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ and give themselves time to grow and get understanding, before speaking out on issues they don’t completely understand. Just quoting scripture is not understanding, for even the Devil could do that, to deceive even the very elect!

    • Reader

      My suggestion for evangelists is to first teach such new converts that bit of Hebrews that points out that they are babes, and that they have little or no knowledge of anything doctrinal from the Bible beyond the basics of the Gospel.
      You are right about popular people claiming conversion drawing a big crowd while knowing little or nothing about which they speak. It isn’t really any different than before they claimed salvation. They knew little or nothing about which they spoke before or after, but are given extra credence because they are popular. So make disciples of every nation and be prepared to teach them, but start with teaching them that they are children and do not know yet the truths about which they desire to speak.

    • lifeissogood

      And there in lies the problem. People turn to man for their biblical knowledge instead of God’s word. Man may quote scripture but not interpret.
      It is that interpretation that man flocks to, not the scripture. Those who twist the scripture for man’s wants is what draws a following.
      It’s quite easy to omit words, punctuation and complete passages to condone an act that the Bible clearly states is immoral, like homosexuality.
      This is why a person should follow God and his word. Not man and his interpretation of God’s word.
      All the answers a person needs is in the Bible. A person needs to read the Bible for their self and let God do the interpreting.

      • John3:16

        Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools – Romans 1:22

      • Wolf-Spider

        Themselves you mean.

        • lifeissogood

          Actually no. I was speaking in a singular term, not plural. Otherwise it would had been “People need to read the Bible for themselves…”
          But thank you anyways.

      • chuckfreyer

        Are you friggin’ insane? How can you believe a dead ghost and a con man fraud that was smashed into sheeeet when alive – Jesus – is real? Are you demented ? Seriously – think about it…

        • lifeissogood

          :)

        • Wolf-Spider

          No, but I bet you are.

      • savetheusa2

        That is why I follow the Catholic Church. The Church was started by God’s Son, Jesus. God gave his Apostles and Disciples the Holy Spirit to be able to preach, discern His words, etc. They were afraid after His death, but when the Holy Spirit came upon them they went out with enormous ‘power’ to cure, preach, suffer times in jail, and many to be martyred. St. Peter chose to be martyred in an upside down crucifixion & that is why there is an upside cross at the Vatican. It is good to read the Holy Bible, but the reason we have so many Christian denominations is because they can’t agree on Holy Scripture. The Catholic Church has a Catechism and lets all those members understand their religion and where they found scripture that instituted certain traditions and doctrine. It is important to know that His Church came before the Bible was assembled as it is today. He had 3 years with His Apostles to teach them.

        • lifeissogood

          You follow a religion that, at a minimum, removed one of the original Ten Commandments?

          You are aware that the catholic church removed, and ignores, the Commandment in Exodus 20:4-5 that says “4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;”
          It’s no longer one of the catholics Ten Commandments.
          We see this Commandment broken repeatedly by the many statues prayed to as well as your statement of an ‘upside cross’ at the government of the Vatican. One of the first things done when entering a catholic church is to kneel before the idol at the front.

          Yes, the Vatican is a government with it’s own money, secretary of state and ambassadors, and is a recognized country just like Germany, France etc and even has it’s own flag. You can not serve two masters.

          I can’t find the confessional in the Bible, which contradicts 1 John 2:9-2, nor does the Bible speak of nuns, monks or the pope. You might also want to look on the Eucharist before you eat it. It is marked with the letters “IHS”, which stands for the sun ‘gods’ Isis, Horus and Seb.

          I also have a problem with the horrible laws created by the catholic church at the Council of Trent. One of these laws make it a death sentence for ANYONE that states the bread and wine used in the catholic church’s holy communion are only symbolic. It is taught in the church that the Eucharist IS the Lord Jesus HIMSELF. (transubstantiation)
          So according to the catholic church, I must be put to death for I don’t believe that wafer is Jesus Christ.

          Jesus tells us what he thinks of the catholic church in Revelations 17:1+5. Besides all this, praying to the sinner Mary (Luke 2:22-24, Lev. 12:8) will do nothing but be blasphemous against God.

          I believe many catholics are doing their best to serve God and please him. That is what makes these false religious systems so evil. Those trapped within it may be sincerely seeking God, but if they are not serving God according to His Word, they are sincerely wrong.

          Again, this is why man should follow God and His Word. Not man and his interpretation of God’s Word.

    • AClearThought

      I don’t think 8 years constitutes a babe.

    • Lorraine Ball

      If it were possible. Finish the sentence.

  • nahum

    I pray that people would stop twisting GOD( not allah. assur, animists ect., ) words .Don’t say a passage ,whatever passage, doesn’t apply, for you are blind to God ‘s(the GOD of the Bible) words. Read Romans chapter one, you will rightly understand those word’s. Christ Jesus is ready to seek and save those who are lost. Then those who are naysayers will understand.

    • chuckfreyer

      Are you insane? A dead ghost that was a weak, smashed up man and con artist called Jesus will save you? Seriously – what’s the difference between you saying this and an insane man?

  • MildBill

    Now it appears there’s another new term for Heterosexuals to learn that expands upon the Homosexual designations of LBGT. . . . It appears the Homosexual Vegan community now wishes to be referred to as “Hummusexuals” ! . . . Will it ever end ?

  • Maggietish

    Kristen Powers says a lot of things for shock value in my opinion. When she’s on some programs she shouts and speaks over the host and others so much that I actually change the channel. Other time she’s reasonable and make some sense. Many times she iOS arrogant and boisterous I think just to prove that she has some kind of relevance when in reality she’s just making a big fool out of herself. Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion. I choose to believe the Bible and God’s word and I’m within my rights to do that.

  • LABobfromNYC

    The Bible is given the special privilege of confirming its own truth. It’s true because it says it’s true in the bible! Quoting characters in this fable is like proving the existence of Batman by quoting the words of Robin the Boy Wonder.

    • MildBill

      @LaBotomyfromNYC . . . . Your description would better suit the Global Warming proclamation and the “scientific” community that falsely proliferate the lie to receive further funding. . . No independent, unfunded scientists to date claim that global warming is anything other than the normal variance of weather and in fact, we are in a slight global cooling. . . . Most scientific types are now saying they go along with creationism and believe that a superior source (GOD) had everything to do with all we now see. . . . There are also geological surveys that prove areas discussed in the Bible have remained the same over the ages, while some give the geotechnical reason for changes that have occurred in other areas.. . . There is physical evidence of such events as the parting of the Red Sea that have been recently discovered and in conjunction with maps of the day show that the Red Sea was as exists today and no land passage ever existed there other than when the sea was parted as if on a “trail” across the sand. . . Chariot parts and other items were found in the area that was parted, while no ships manifests have ever shown chariots to be shipped by boat. . . Also of note was the fact that no ships wreckage was found in the same area. . . Many, many things and occurrences have been proven to in fact be viable. . . There will always be a portion of all history that remains in the dark. . . That is where the “faith” part comes in, and that my friend I have a feeling you are just hardwired NOT to partake in. . . . I make no claim to being a Biblical Scholar, and I am quite sure there are many who could explain more eloquently than I, if only they had the inclination. . . Most do not have the inclination because you leave people with the impression that you are here to merely be a fly on the cupcake. . . Negative begets negative and of that I am positive !

      • LABobfromNYC

        Your ignorance of science is astounding. the debate on the authenticity of global warming and the role played by human activity is nonexistent among those who understand the nuances and scientific basis of long-term climate processes. There are no national or major scientific institutions anywhere in the world that dispute the theory of anthropogenic climate change. Not one. making up a magic story with an invisible magic man to explain things you do not understand is intellectually lazy. Smart people do not do that. Evidence + reason that is the only formula to truth.

        • MildBill

          LaBotomyfromNYC: . . . . It would appear that your hardwiring malfunction is aided by your loose wrapping. . . . Enjoy your cupcake, Cupcake.

        • rsartain

          Wrong oh feckless one. The Geologocal Society of Australia recently retracted their 2012 statement in full support of Anthropomorphic Globall Warming because most of the membership raised such a stink about how false the satement was that they now reject the idiotic concept. You really need to get some education on the matter. You’re a kool-aid drinker and it’s killing your country but that’s probably the intended goal anyhow for such pseudo-intellectual braying jackasses as you and your cabal. Obama lied through his teeth when he said “97% of all scientists believe in AGW”. There are less than half (according to the GSA only 47%) of those qualified to speak to the subject who buy into the “theory” and they’re getting massive government funding. HeHaw

          • MildBill

            ……………………….also there are those given to the “scientific study” of why the Polar Bears are dying out. . . Scientists doing the study gave encroachment by man as the leading cause, followed by loss of food sources. . . . As it turns out, the Polar Bear population is thriving and indeed even increasing. . . When confronted with the evidence the “scientists” admitted that they “FABRICATED” numbers and facts to suit their agenda, which was to be paid to continue their “studies”. . . If you wish to “draw in” LaBotomyfromNYC”, you have to toss out a cupcake with a string on it. . . I think he is off today, as usually one day per week he goes in for his kool aid dialysis treatment.

          • rsartain

            Yeah, I lived in Alaska for twenty years and worked on the North Slope. We had to have a guy with a gun standing by whenever we dumped the garbage because the polar bears were all over the place and would kill for the garbage. There were so many that when they went through the towns and villages people would just stay in the house until the “herd” passed…yes I’m talking about “herds” of Polar Bears!!

          • Apolloone

            Thanks Rsartain for putting another KADLDA in their place that’s Kool-Ade Drinking Liberal Dumb-Ass.

          • Devilrider

            Now is it anthropogenic or anthropomorphic?

    • Wolf-Spider

      Do you not realize that a significant battle was won by the Allies in WWII thanks to information in the Bible? The Bible is true, because there is evidence to back it. People in that area believe the events took place, because they’ve seen the locations for themselves.

      • chuckfreyer

        Are you insane? Seriously. If the bible was true then scientists are fools. Or to put it better: there is complete evidence that Jesus was a fraud because science is true.

        • Wolf-Spider

          No, I’m not. I am perfectly in my correct state of mind.
          Believe it or not, science (not the “Religion of Science”) has been backing up the Bible since archeology began.
          If what _YOU_ state is true, why the smeg would people, like

          the Apostles, risk stuff like quartering, being dragged to death, decapitation, stoning, or crucifixion in Jesus’ name if He was a fraud? People saw what He did. There is no explanation to how He did them, UNLESS He was who He said He was.

          • LABobfromNYC

            With the whole compendium of biblical half-truths, fantasy and garbled history defined as “historical evidence”, vast numbers of “witnesses” to the Jesus superhero can be mustered. Other characters in the fable give testimony for the existence of the holy carpenter. This is rather like ‘proving’ the existence of Batman by quoting the words of Robin the Boy Wonder. People suffer and die all the time for erroneous causes. Did the 9/11 terrorists go straight to the Islamic paradise? Pagans died at the hands of Christians. Did this prove the existence of Isis and Dionysus? There is NO evidence at all for the existence of the Apostles and NO evidence for widespread suffering by Christians either until, that is, the Christian Empire turned its ferocity upon the heretics

          • WelderChick

            What planet are you from? There’s plenty of historical evidence for Jesus and his apostles from both Roman and Jewish sources! And the suffering of Christians again, is recorded by the Romans. But then again, the grace to see that truth or to be open to it comes from God. You’re not ready for it yet, apparently.

          • MildBill

            . . . . . . “whole compendium” ? . . . i.e. a “whole short version” ? . . . I would say the Bible is a pretty complete work that touches on just about everything. . . While “compendium” is a impressive sounding word it would be far more impressive if it made sense.

          • Reader

            Try it again. Even most honest secular/liberal historians admit to the historical authenticity of large portions of the Bible…that and it remaining virtually unchanged for millennia. I have read descriptions of the ‘THOUSANDS’ of half-truths and contradictions of the Bible. The last I checked, every single one could be explained by one of the following:
            1. Details actually historically/scientifically confirmed. Many attack details in the Bible to say they never happened because certain historical or archaeological matters don’t line up. The truth is that details from the Bible are confirmed by the study of history and even archaeology. Ruins of historic locations have been found solely using the Biblical description of where the site was. The Bible describes a number of phenomena that were believed to be impossible until discovered to exist (underwater streams and rivers, for one example, and no, I don’t mean underwater and/or surface currents/etc). Mind you, the Bible isn’t a science book the way a chemistry text might be, but it has scientific and historical fact, along with describing nature the way it appears. (Even in modern day when we fully understand the fact of the earth’s rotation and its orbit of the sun, we still talk about sunrise and sunset, so that hardly proves the observational speech to be proof of scientific inaccuracy.)
            2. Many so-called contradictions come from cherry-picking specific words and phrases, sometimes out of different translations, out of context to claim they are saying something other than their obvious intent.
            3. Most so-called contradictions come from examining the accounts of two clearly different occasions, then pointing out the differences while claiming the cases were the same.
            4. Some so-called contradictions come from comparing two different eye-witness accounts, then claiming the contradict because the two people didn’t notice or comment on the exact same details in the exact same way.
            5. Pretty much the rest come from comparing two different translations of the same passage and claiming a conflict because the wording isn’t exactly the same.
            As for evidence of Jesus, the Apostles, etc., history is full of evidence. Aside from neglecting the main historical account that exists to document them (the Bible), their (well, the Apostles’) writings exist in historically confirmable manuscript form, some copies, a number actually first century documents. Further, non-religious historians, such as Josephus, confirm their historical existence and authenticity. Their account of events during the time period further presents total corroboration with what is known about other historical events and people of the time. The only reason to doubt the historical authenticity of the Bible is not wanting to believe the truth it has to present. There isn’t exactly an unbroken line of popes running back to Peter, the way the Roman Catholic Church wishes to claim, but there is an unbroken line of history and writings going all the way back to the Bible, people writing about and confirming those before them. Even historians trying to claim the Bible to be a complete fiction admit that that leaves them having to account for a hole in history shaped like that Bible. There is more secular historical evidence to confirm the historical existence of the Biblical Jesus Christ than there is to confirm the existence of Julius Caesar. Do you believe Julius existed?
            You talk about how

          • savetheusa2

            As a Catholic, there is a list of all Popes starting with St. Peter to today. The first few like St. Peter where martyrs. There were some anti-popes and even three that said they were popes at the same time. But, if you read about history, two of them were not correct. Jesus started His Church with the 12 Apostles and told them to go to the ends of the earth to preach the Name of the Father, the Name of the Son, and the Name of the Holy Ghost (now Spirit). They were told that the gates of hell would not prevail against His Church. They received the Holy Spirit and appointed others (disciples) as Bishops and Deacons and they went all over the world as it was at that time. Jesus did not say that His Church would stop for a while and get picked up again. The One, Holy, Apostolic, Roman Catholic Church was started by Jesus Christ. All other Christian denominations were started by MEN who protested against the Church and were mostly started after Luther posted his document in the 14th century. Those are the facts. Check it out if you don’t believe me. It has been a hard road for the Church because like the Jews we are a hard-headed bunch of people.

          • Reader

            Many popes, but in spite of the Roman Catholic claims, it was not an unbroken line back to Peter. There was also the murderer, the adulterer, several married men, and at least one woman. Not that it all matters that much.

          • LearnedInTexas

            My dear Catholic friend, I beg to differ with you on the “unbroken chain” of the church from Peter. The Dark Ages cannot be denied and lying liars enveloped the church, changed doctrines, and began perversions that the original apostles would have decried. They began selling “indulgences” for sin to enrich their coffers, and decided that priests should be celibate. (The original apostles were married men, by the way.) Yet these supposedly celibate men had secret wives and mistresses and their autocratic dealings with the “common people” were far different from their dealings with the wealthy. Yes, I went to catechism classes, but had too many questions that couldn’t be answered except by “you must take it on faith.” My faith is in the teachings of the Bible and the confirmation of truth by the Holy Ghost. I know that Jesus lives and that He must be extremely sad to see what has happened to the pure religion He brought to this earth. We, as human beings, will reap what we sow, and for some, that will be a whirlwind.

        • MildBill

          Scientists of the day were convinced that the Earth was flat and even convinced a US President to subsidize a expedition to the center of the Earth to confer with the “Mole People” once they figured out the Earth was round ?. . . If science is the final word, why do they keep changing those things that were put forward as “scientific fact” all the time ? . . . Truth never changes ! . . . Therefore scientists use educated speculation to come to a conclusion considered to be fact until disproven by other scientists.

          • Cami W

            Mildbill, not in Biblical days as in 1000 BC, not until the 15 century did scientists of that day thought the earth was flat, the Bible is full of scientific evidence thousands of years BC, for example:

            “You may be surprised to learn that the Bible revealed that the earth is round. Job
            26:10, Prov 8:27, Isaiah 40:22, Amos 9:6. Today, we chuckle at the people of the
            fifteenth century who feared sailing because they thought they would fall over
            the edge of the flat earth. Yet the Bible revealed the truth in 1000 B.C. 2500
            years before man discovered it for himself!”

            Scientific evidences of the
            Bible’s inspiration

          • Becca Burnette

            Isaiah 40:22 It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in;

            Proverbs 8:27When he established the heavens, I was there; when he drew a circle on the face of the deep

            Job 26:10 ESV / 4 helpful votes

            He has inscribed a circle on the face of the waters at the boundary between light and darknes

            And there are many passages where the bible states what science figured out later

        • maryann

          you will get a chance to tell Jesus that , face to face one day … so don’t worry .. Im sorry you don’t believe in anything sadly satan has you fooled really bad

        • Cami W

          chuck, provide proof that Jesus was a frauf.

        • Jane18

          I cannot believe that you do not know of evidence that has been shown of how true The Bible is(historic happenings, age of the Earth, characters from the O.T., etc.), and the name of Jesus Christ has and is, still being talked about for 2,ooo years. Maybe a fraud to you chuck, but Saviour to me and others…

        • savetheusa2

          They found chariot wheels in the Red Sea. You should get out more often!

        • Donald York

          Just like the global warming scientists Chuckie?

    • jimbo124816

      There used to be a time when a reasonable person would not ridicule another person’s religion, because of common courtesy and a respect for someone’s beliefs.
      Today we have people like LABob who are so hateful, they see nothing wrong in attacking people. Sometimes it’s best to say nothing.

      • blowingoffgodot

        If you don’t like your beliefs being ridiculed, stop believing ridiculous things.

  • worldwatchman

    Great story and it’s correct. There’s no ifs, ands, or buts. It’s man and woman ONLY. Are politicians hell bent on destroying all things Biblical? Not all but, democrats sure embrace the idea along with “some” republicans. Pillars of salt would be a good thing now to happen to them. It’s amazing of some of the comments listed here. The idiots aren’t all in politics. They’re here wearing their blinders with their heads up their keester. It’s a pity but, the Bible also said they’d be here too. That Mr. T saying comes to mind……”I pity the fool”

  • palmtreeherby

    I agree with the male/female perspective, and although I did not divorce either of my two wives, by the modern interpretation of society’s laws they did divorce me. But I think Yahshua wouldn’t waste very much time on the LGBT situation or gay marriage. what with so many other people in need of Salvation, healing, release from demonic possession, and being led into the light from the darkness of Luciferian chaos their are much bigger and better battles to pursue with our God-anointed gifts and talents. If we are to be blessed in joining Him in the Spirit for eternity then we MUST follow the example He showed us in and with His own life. Love Yahweh with all you are, and love your neighbor as you do yourself. Peace.

    • chris

      FYI gay and lesbian relationships are of Satan and are a form of demonic possession.

    • Reader

      They would still be getting the Gospel message…that and the general notion of ‘go and sin no longer’ part. Would Jesus show the LGBT community love? Absolutely. Would He stand silently by and refuse to call homosexuality/etc sin? Absolutely not. He didn’t balk at calling any wickedness the sin it was. He wouldn’t start dumbing down His message so that LGBT wouldn’t get their feelings hurt over being told they were sinning.

    • jimbo124816

      During that time in history and to this day in certain religions, you could divorce your wife, by saying three times to her, “I divorce you.”
      Jesus was saying that that was not acceptable, but there are some valid reasons, desertion of your family, or adultery being the major ones.
      The Bible didn’t talk about Gay marriage other than to say that marriage was between a man and a woman. and at that time they could not even think that anyone would someday think that was a viable alternative. The same with abortion. They could not even imagine that someday people would want to kill their own children in the womb.
      There is a list in the Bible, of the people who will not inherit a place in Heaven, and those people are on the list.

  • thinkingcritically

    Isn’t the quote from Jesus more a condemnation of divorce? Why are the divorced people in America barred from equal treatment in society? Practice what you preach for C*”s sake!

    • Jane18

      I think you are missing the point of one man and one woman… The unequal treatment you are speaking of is mainly from the oh-so-holy churches and the make believe “Christians”! The reason: they listen to false teachers and they do not check out The Word for The Truth. Sure, it would be good if couples stayed together, but, there are reasons, biblically, why some should divorce.
      After all, divorce is not the unforgiveable sin, not matter what some unknowledgeable person says!

      • thinkingcritically

        Hey, if you can rationalize and talk your way out of following Jesus’ words, more power to you. It says what it says though :) Jesus says no man can divide what god has joined in marriage…kind of clear huh?

        • LearnedInTexas

          You had better read the Old Testament: Deuteronomy 24: 1-4, where the detailed laws for divorce are laid out very clearly and simply. So—although marriage is intended to be forever, there is no reason for a woman to stay with a man who hates her. God did not intend for the spouse to be abused, but allowed a divorce. Personally, I think divorce laws today are too lenient in cases where the couple just decide the pastures are greener on the other side. In cases of adultery, in the Bible, the adulterers are stoned to death. That would eliminate a divorce, for sure. Marriage is a commitment that should not be taken lightly. How many people today can say, as I can, that I have been married to my sweetheart for 49 years and looking forward to the big 50. Is it always easy? No. Life changes people, and people get older and sometimes very ill, but that’s not an excuse to give up. Sometimes that “critical thinking” is really “stinking thinking.” Brush up on the Bible.

          • thinkingcritically

            Oh so you like to . Pick and choose what to follow. .. Jesus was clear. Old testament has a lot I bet you don’t follow. But view could be wrong maybe you do eat shellfish and stay in the same bed with your wife when she was menstruating. If so my apologies

          • Thack

            How many of you disgusting homophobes killed your children when they cursed you? People who pick and choose what to believe have no real belief. Xians I’ve met, and I’ve met many, use the bible to justify their own bigotry. They wouldn’t be on these boards talking their nonsense if they really followed the bible.

          • thinkingcritically

            I can’t believe I (one of a handful of non-anti-gay people on this site) was just called a homophobe lol. You need to read my comments on here a bit more closely sir.

          • Thack

            I didn’t call you out by name, but I did reply to your comment, so I can understand why you feel singled out. The homophobes single themselves out by picking and choosing which old Hebrew laws to follow. No wool with cotton, you know? Kill your kids who curse you. Kill the son who has sex with his step mom and kill her as well. The Christians are way behind on their killing. I guess a lot of the fun went out of Christianity when they stopped burning non-believers at the stake.

  • Jane18

    Kirsten Powers? Just another ding-a-ling… Her words prove that!

  • Devilrider

    You might even tell here about Romans Chapter 1 and Leviticus Chapters 17 and 18. Is she blond or what?

  • Devilrider

    Was Al Gore or his wife a blond? There has to be some excuse for his stand on this, we must give it some thought.

  • Devilrider

    Looking closer at the picture of here hair, I do not believe she was a blond. Let’s look for another excuse for her thoughtless post. Does she smoke the weed?

  • jimbo124816

    Kirsten says she has met Jesus, and I think it is wonderful, but being a new convert doesn’t all of a sudden make her an expert on the Christian faith.
    She needs to read her Bible to find out what it’s all about, before she expounds to us about her opinions. The Bible says, “by their fruit you shall know them”.

    That is why we don’t let first semester freshmen engineering students design skyscrapers and bridges.

    She has spent far too many years as a wacky left winger and it’s hard to get that garbage out of your mind.
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    • blackv8

      So, apparently you believe Jesus was a good old American conservative? Cause left vs. right, what does that even have to do with it? Apparently you need to read up on your bible too.

    • Thack

      I guess it takes a while to accept that donkeys and burning bushes can talk. Then there is that Great Flood that the nearby Egyptians totally missed and didn’t bother to record in their long, unbroken history. Oh, yeah, the virgin birth that was part of mythology long before Jesus. Zoroaster’s magical virgin birth was 1200 years before Jesus. Religious stories are as full of magic and fantasy as any move by Pixar. Only little kids should buy into that kind of junk.

  • Donald York

    Adam and Eve, not, Adam and Steve.

    • Gracchus

      My, that’s original.

    • Thack

      Eve was made from Adam, so Adam was sort of having sex with himself. Cons understand that. Their second child turned out to be a murderer. The murderer was banished and even though his family were the only people on earth, he found a wife.They had to be inbred. They were all created in the image of God. Who could believe such nonsense?

      • Wolf-Spider

        Actually, it was their first. Cain was first, and he killed Abel.

  • Hussein Obama

    We need to stop calling homsexuals “gay.” Howmosexuals, and their media lapdogs, preempted the word “gay” because they believe it has a more normal connotation than “homosexual.”

    But WHY do we allow sexual deviants and left wing propagandists to steal perfectly good words in order to frame an issue the way they want it framed??

    Refuse to play along. Refer to homosexuals as what they ARE: homosexuals.

    • Gracchus

      Why do we allow people we don’t like to “steal” words?

      A) You don’t have a copyright on the English language.

      and

      B) 1st Amendment, you fascist dog.

      • Chuck Chuckson

        fag

        • Gracchus

          You are? Well, don’t worry – I hear that it’s not the social stigma that it used to be, as long as you steer clear of right-wing religious fascists like the ones here… oh, right, that would be you.

          Well, that’s going to be awkward. Good luck with coming out of the closet and all.

          • Chuck Chuckson

            Your stigma will never wash off. No matter how much you pretend, you’ll never be normal.

          • Gracchus

            “Normal?” Like you, Chucky-boy? Keep it up, and you might be able to convince your red-neck buddies that you’re actually straight.

            BTW, don’t you have a cross-burning or something to run along to? Be sure to wear a clean sheet.

          • Chuck Chuckson

            The fact that you NEED to believe that anyone who objects to faggotry are themselves fags, should tell you that you’re not normal.

            You see, as a normal person, I can accept that some people are abnormal. It doesn’t bother me because I know I’m not the one that’s fundamentally screwed up. Defectives like you OTOH cannot accept it, because you know doing so would be to accept the fact that you’re an abnormal, defective waste of biomass.

            Call me a nazi, a fascist and a bigot if it makes you feel better. I don’t really care, because the opinion of a defective pervert is of no concern to me.

          • Ben Name

            “I know I’m not the one that’s fundamentally screwed up.”

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        • Ben Name

          ha ha ha! You got him there!

  • Jerry DuBois

    it is impossible to debate mythology.

  • DSoDeep

    The belief that a cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree…
    Yeah, Christianity makes perfect sense.

  • DSoDeep

    “I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”

  • DSoDeep

    “If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities.”

  • DSoDeep

    Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.

  • DSoDeep

    Finally – James 1:26 If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless.

  • blackv8

    Apparently few conservative Christians are plugged into the bible enough to even understand Jesus’ words. Trying to make Jesus’ condemnation of divorce into a mandate for or definition of marriage is fallacial thinking. He says nothing about homosexuality, but you paste your misinterpretation of the account of Sodom and a few verses in Leviticus (out of a field of other provisions of the old law that you don’t even attempt to follow) to try to create a commandment where none exists. It is sad, because to get there, where you look down on others trying to quantify their sins instead of dealing with your own, you are ignoring so many of the things which Jesus actually DID say.

  • Thack

    Jesus was asked about divorce and said that a man and a woman, once joined, are one and can’t get divorced. It doesn’t say that gays can’t be married and even if it did, this is the United States, not the land of the Hebrews. Our Constitution protects us from religious laws being applied as government law. That violates the separation of church and state.

    Where was Jesus from the age of 12 until he was about 30 years old? There is no mention of him during that 18 years. God didn’t have anyone write it down so he must have lost track of his son for those 18 years. I wonder if he put Jesus’ face on a milk carton?

  • jimletchworth

    ..”let not man separate” – this means there can be no divorce.

  • Lerojist

    Adultry is given as a reason for divorce.

    A few years ago, before divorce was granted, there was a year waiting period, giving the couple time for counseling. There was less divorce. Then no-fault divorce was instilled….BIG MISTAKE.

    The enemy wants to destroy God, and family, which hold a civilized nation together.

  • lexi

    i want to share a testimony of my life to every one. i was married to my husband, i love him so much we have been married for 5 years now with two kids. when he went for a vacation to France he meant a lady who en charm him with her beauty, he told me that he is no longer interested in the marriage any more. i was so confuse and seeking for help, i don’t know what to do until I complained to my friend and told her about my problem. she told me not to worry about it that she had a similar problem before and introduce me to a man called Dr Saibaba. who cast a spell on her ex and bring him back to her after 2days. she ask me to contact Dr Saibaba. I contacted him to help me bring back my husband and he ask me not to worry about it that the gods of his fore-fathers will fight for me. He told me by two days he will re-unite me and my husband together. After two days my husband called and told me he is coming back to sought out things with me, I was surprise when I saw him and he started crying for forgiveness and that he never knew what came upon him that he will never leave me again or the kids. Right now I am the happiest woman on earth for what this great spell caster did for me and my husband, you can contact Dr Saibaba on any problem, he is very nice, here is his contact [email protected]

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