Vermont to Require NON-Gun Owners to Pay a Fine?

Screen Shot 2013-01-07 at 8.59.17 AMHere’s a fresh approach. Teri Hinkle shared this along with a lot of other info on American National Militia.

As an aside, Drake and Co. are posting more stuff lately that seems geared to get us all wound up. (Not this particular piece) It doesn’t feel good. I’m going to stop there.

HOW ABOUT VERMONT? … register “non-gun-owners” and require them to pay a $500 fee to the state
Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack has read the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, as well as Vermont ‘s own Constitution very carefully, and his strict interpretation of these documents is popping some eyeballs in New England and elsewhere.

Maslack recently proposed a bill to register “non-gun-owners” and require them to pay a $500 fee to the state. Thus Vermont would become the first state to require a permit for the luxury of going about unarmed and assess a fee of $500 for the privilege of not owning a gun.

Maslack read the “militia” phrase of the Second Amendment as not only the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as ‘a clear mandate to do so’. He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a “monopoly of force” by the government as well as criminals.

Vermont ‘s constitution states explicitly that “the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State” and those persons who are “conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms” shall be required to “pay such equivalent.” Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters have a constitutional obligation to arm themselves, so that they are capable of responding to “any situation that may arise.”

Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver’s license number with the state. “There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do so,” Maslack says. Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least restrictive laws of any state. It’s currently the only state that allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit.


  • $5708171

    Yessss! I LOVE this!!!

  • Darrell Lynch

    Go Vermont. Maybe I’ll move there! I think the ghetto con man fool is biting off more than he and his communist bros can chew.

    • Rattlerjake

      I’d move there if it wasn’t so cold.

      • Charlie

        You get used to it. Just be sure to have plenty of firewood for the winter, your snow-thrower in working order (trust me, you’ll need it), and a ski bunny to keep you warm if you’re single.:) A plane ticket to Florida or someplace else warm for a week in January or February is a nice thing, too.

        • Rattlerjake

          Na, Won’t happen. I’m in North Carolina and we’re on track to cleanse this state of liberal idiocy. We now have Republican control of house, senate, and governor. Laws are changing and hopefully we’ll force the liberals to move north where they belong. It’s a sign that the south is rising again! LOL!

          • Charlie

            So your sending them back up here is the south’s revenge?

            Thanks. We have too friggin’ many of them as it is.

          • scrambo

            better get rid of all those stinkin bankers send them back to NYC…

  • TNS

    Alaska also has Vermont stile concealed carry.

  • Idadho

    Go Green Mountain Boys.

  • wdcraftr

    Az also

  • ebboone


  • MontieR

    Wrong again Arizona is also a constitutional carry state. No permits to open OR concealed carry.

  • voldemort

    Take this concept nationwide!

  • Tonto

    Amen. The second amendment lives!

  • Alex Alex

    Wyoming also has concealed carry with no CCW requirement for WY residents.

  • iownswords

    No way am I paying that bullshit. An interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend themselves and/or the state hahahaha. Round em up boys, The fourth reich is underway.

    • Rattlerjake

      But yet you are alright with registering gun owners so that the government knows where to go to confiscate them, and are OK with newspapers who print private information showing addresses of gun owners so that criminals will know the “gun free” locations in a neighborhood. I hope more states enact and enforce this.

      • iownshurikens

        Why do you buffoons always put words in others mouths. Learn to read what was actually said.

        • scrambo

          why do you sophists have to be so clever with wordplay…

  • Chad

    Ahhh.. A bit of sunshine in the repression of our rights…Love It!~

  • Charlie

    I’m at once surprised and not. Vermont is so full of lefty-loonies, I’m surprised they would do this…I mean, after all, they send Bernie Sanders to Congress. Frankly, I’m shocked they’re still as liberal with firearms as they are. I will, in fairness, note that most of the lefty-loonies moved up the Hudson and Connecticut Rivers.

    Then, there is the other side, which I think is still quite prevalent. I used to teach high school there, and made friends with local Masonic lodge I would go visit (my lodge is in Massachusetts), and one of the brethren is a locksmith by trade.

    “Gee Mike, you get that much work?”

    “Lots of security systems at the ski condos near Mt. Snow and a few people that have summer homes around here, occasional safe, lockout, things like that.”

    “I’m surprised you have the much work around here for burglar alarms.”

    “It’s mostly for out-of-staters who aren’t here all the time. (Laughing) Remember, Charlie, this is Vermont, you MUST assume if you’re going to be stupid enough to break in the house, that there is at least one loaded shotgun or rifle and someone who knows how to use it.”

    The last sentence says it all. I suspect the lefty-loonies had some kind of survival instinct kick in and don’t dare do anything.

    Too bad about the survival instinct kicking in.

    Also too bad Vermont’s taxes are so high, especially their real estate taxes; I’d almost be ready to consider moving there now, as I’ve always lived in Massachusetts.

  • Rattlerjake

    I would hope that more states would enact and enforce this law. It’s about time that gun haters pay extra for the BS laws (gun bans, lighter sentencing of criminals, illegal fees on gun owners, etc.) they have voted for that has caused an increase in crime and a burden on law abiding gun owners. An it’s time for more states to stop stealing fees from law abiding gun owners for the right to conceal carry. If violent criminals were executed, this type of crime would be nearly non-existent.

  • Geoff

    Well done Vermont,stand your ground,as you uphold
    the Constitution !!!!

  • Berzrkr50

    I love it! Now if someone would come up with a way to give Kalifornia a common sense lobotomy that would make my day. I can’t understand why I hear people say that this state is the one to watch for styles, etc. when it’s one of the most oppressive states that I can think of where gun rights are concerned. Love guns? Stay out of Kalifornia because they have a real hatred for those “Icky” guns…

  • kushibo

    “Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters have a constitutional obligation to arm themselves.”

    No, as it clearly states that this is a right, not an obligation. There is no more obligation to arm themselves then there is an obligation to have a religion or to speak in public.

    And if arm ownership or so regulated that it was made mandatory by the state, and then that means the state could also regulate or mandate what type of weapon is used, and do gunowners really want to go there?

    • Carl Stevenson

      You didn’t read their state constitution … There is a requirement to pay in there.

  • a_browning

    I live in TX, and I think it is a great idea.

  • Tank

    Would this be similar to paying Rural Fire Depts. a fee for their services? If you don’t, they’ll sit and watch your house burn down, only making sure that surrounding structures aren’t damaged… Are the State Troopers going to sit and watch unarmed people get robbed if they refuse to pay the $500 or arm themselves?

    • Carl Stevenson

      Works for me … The part about the troopers, that is … ;-)

  • HCUA

    Wrong. You don’t need a permit in Arizona, either.

  • Carl Stevenson

    Vermont is not the only state that allows concealed carry without a “Mother May I?” Permit from the state,
    Montana (outside of major cities, last I knew, 99%+ of the state)
    And other are considering enacting “Constitutional carry” laws

  • kushibo

    I think the Clash Daily writers are confusing a proposal with an actual law. Maslack has been proposing this for at least a decade.

  • e111w

    Hooray and huzzah for Vermont! Would someone with access please post the state’s data on per-capita firearms crime.

    • B.f. Caffrey

      Vermont’s homicide rate (per 100,000) is 1.1. It ranks 49th with N.H. at 1.0; In violent crime, Vermont ranks 50th (lowest crime @815). Overall US homicide rate is 4.8 per 100,000. In 2011, VT had 8 homicides, 4 w/firearms; 68 robberies, 23 with guns; 502 aggravated assaults, 67 of which involved a gun.

  • CircusofUSA

    Maybe the low income residents should pay fees for not having ADT home security as well. This is such a joke. I am all for guns but this notion is absurd.

  • scrambo

    I worked in Vermont in the summer of 1986, I distinctly remember every pickup truck brandishing the sticker of the time that said “I am the NRA.” gotto love the independence of the true Vermonter…

  • mickey

    We should follow Vermonts gun laws, it would be better for all of these United States.

  • Lance Doggette

    i am going to move to Vermont. I think this is a great idea. The money can go to support Police departments, National Guard, etc. Or put armed guards in schools. Gun Owners already pay extra taxes for owning guns.

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