About the author: Skip Coryell

Skip Coryell lives with his wife and children in Michigan. Skip Coryell is the author of eight books including Blood in the Streets: Concealed Carry and the OK Corral, RKBA: Defending the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, The God Virus, and We Hold These Truths. He is the founder of The Second Amendment March and the President of White Feather Press. He is an avid hunter and sportsman, a Marine Corps veteran, and a graduate of Cornerstone University. For more details on Skip Coryell, or to contact him personally, go to his website at skipcoryell.com

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  • Zundfolge

    The problem with using the Talaban and VC as examples of victors in asymmetrical warfare is to remember that in both cases they aren’t winning because of their military prowess or tactical strikes, they’re winning because public opinion here at home has a bearing on military action which keeps our soldiers operating under stupid, borderline suicidal ROEs and with rules against wholesale slaughter and everyone knows they’ll eventually be pulled out before they ever achieve anything close to victory.

    If the very public who’s opinion has forced our military to pull defeat from the jaws of victory time and time again is actually the TARGET of this military, there will be nobody causing them to “pull their punches” … nobody pulling them out prematurely just because they show flag draped coffins on TV and nobody applying political pressure to end the war at all costs because “war is not the answer”.

    The only reason that asymmetrical/guerrilla warfare works at all is when the guerrillas are fighting a moral and ethical (and to be honest somewhat squeamish) power that abides by things like the Geneva/Hague conventions, Queens-bury Rules and common decency.

    Once a tyrannical American government turns its guns on its people it will make the slaughters of innocents under Stalin and Mao look like church picnics.

    • Thomas Sharp

      I too thing it will be a bloodbath.
      God save US, for only He can.

      • Zundfolge

        Yep, at this point (well probably at any point) it’s up to God.

        Thing is he usually has a few requirements for saving a nation. He may offer his grace to individuals easily, but for nations it requires a bit more.

        I trust God. I don’t trust my fellow Americans (we’ve all become too corrupt, perverted and faithless).

        I pray every day (usually multiple times a day) that our nation “will humble themselves and pray and seek [His] face and turn from their wicked ways” … but I don’t do it while holding my breath. :)

        So I’ll probably end up with you and marineh2ominer in that ditch … hopefully surrounded by a pile of spent brass.

      • Zundfolge

        Yep, at this point (well probably at any point) it’s up to God.

        Thing is he usually has a few requirements for saving a nation. He may offer his grace to individuals easily, but for nations it requires a bit more.

        I trust God. I don’t trust my fellow Americans (we’ve all become too corrupt, perverted and faithless).

        I pray every day (usually multiple times a day) that our nation “will humble themselves and pray and seek [His] face and turn from their wicked ways” … but I don’t do it while holding my breath. :)

        So I’ll probably end up with you and marineh2ominer in that ditch … hopefully surrounded by a pile of spent brass.

        • Thomas Sharp

          Proud to have you there, glad to know you here.
          At the end of it all, I’ll see you on the other side.

          • Alfred Ferguson

            Patriotic and conservative atheists are not, I take it, invited to the party–judging by all the “God-talk” here. Good thing the revolutionaries of 1776 were not so ill-advised.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mark.treadway Mark Treadway

            All Patriots are invited to the war I will be in. It may help if you are God Fearing, but I won’t turn away any patriot, especially if they can shoot straight. I would hope that even the athiest can respect the folks who believe in God Almighty, and the God fearing should respect the athiest. Our good country was formed on religeous freedom and tollerance.

          • http://www.capalert.com/ Medic01

            I just wanted to address the term “God-fearing.” Does anyone know that “God-fearing” does NOT necessarily mean we have to be afraid of Him? The three ways “fear” in “fear of God” is used in the Bible translate to yirah (respect, reverence), pachad (terror, dread) and phobos (reverence as in for one’s spouse). So, if one opposes and rejects God one should dread (pachad) fear what He will do (and won’t do). If one loves Him one should revere, honor and respect (yirah or phobos) fear Him. For more information visit http://www.capalert.com/fearofgod.htm.

            I fear God. Deeply. But I am not afraid of Him.

          • Ed Williams

            “There are no Atheists in a foxhole.”

          • Ed Williams

            “There are no Atheists in a foxhole.”

          • Ed Williams

            “There are no Atheists in a foxhole.”

          • Ed Williams

            “There are no Atheists in a foxhole.”

          • Thomas Sharp

            Sure they are.
            Just because I believe in God, any atheist should not feel offended to be in my presence, as I am not offended by their opinion. It won’t stop me from praying for them though.

          • Thomas Sharp

            Sure they are.
            Just because I believe in God, any atheist should not feel offended to be in my presence, as I am not offended by their opinion. It won’t stop me from praying for them though.

          • garysvent

            Typical diversity from an atheist. You leave yourself out with such statements.

            Atheists, by the way, are much more associated in history with murderous communism than Christians.

          • NonPerplexed

            What a croc, if you had a clue you would not make such idiotic statements, the Jew is and always has been behind communism and the slaughter of Christians, furthermore the Jew is behind what is going on in your country today, make no mistake, to learn who rules over you look for who you cant criticize….. Who runs Wall St?? who runs the mass media? Who has incredible power over the congress?? Who gets the US to fight its wars for it in the Mid East?? Wake up pal, its right in front of your face

          • garysvent

            What has Jewry to do with your atheism?

            Speaking of croc …. anti-semitism is what helped perpetrate the largest conflict in history (WWII), and you want to spread that filth here?

            You give idiotic a fighting chance for survival. Go post to your KKK mirror.

          • garysvent

            What has Jewry to do with your atheism?

            Speaking of croc …. anti-semitism is what helped perpetrate the largest conflict in history (WWII), and you want to spread that filth here?

            You give idiotic a fighting chance for survival. Go post to your KKK mirror.

          • garysvent

            What has Jewry to do with your atheism?

            Speaking of croc …. anti-semitism is what helped perpetrate the largest conflict in history (WWII), and you want to spread that filth here?

            You give idiotic a fighting chance for survival. Go post to your KKK mirror.

          • garysvent

            What has Jewry to do with your atheism?

            Speaking of croc …. anti-semitism is what helped perpetrate the largest conflict in history (WWII), and you want to spread that filth here?

            You give idiotic a fighting chance for survival. Go post to your KKK mirror.

          • NonPerplexed

            What a croc, if you had a clue you would not make such idiotic statements, the Jew is and always has been behind communism and the slaughter of Christians, furthermore the Jew is behind what is going on in your country today, make no mistake, to learn who rules over you look for who you cant criticize….. Who runs Wall St?? who runs the mass media? Who has incredible power over the congress?? Who gets the US to fight its wars for it in the Mid East?? Wake up pal, its right in front of your face

          • garysvent

            Typical diversity from an atheist. You leave yourself out with such statements.

            Atheists, by the way, are much more associated in history with murderous communism than Christians.

          • garysvent

            Typical diversity from an atheist. You leave yourself out with such statements.

            Atheists, by the way, are much more associated in history with murderous communism than Christians.

          • garysvent

            Typical diversity from an atheist. You leave yourself out with such statements.

            Atheists, by the way, are much more associated in history with murderous communism than Christians.

          • http://www.capalert.com/ Medic01

            Ah, but the revolutionaries of 1776 were indeed “so ill-advised”, Mr, Ferguson if I understand your use of “ill-advised.” Nearly even one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were practicing Christians, some were pastors. To even allude to our heritage and founding fathers not being Christian warriors is ill-informed.

          • Thomas Sharp

            Why wouldn’t one be?

          • Thomas Sharp

            Why wouldn’t one be?

          • Thomas Sharp

            Why wouldn’t one be?

          • Alfred Ferguson

            Patriotic and conservative atheists are not, I take it, invited to the party–judging by all the “God-talk” here. Good thing the revolutionaries of 1776 were not so ill-advised.

          • Alfred Ferguson

            Patriotic and conservative atheists are not, I take it, invited to the party–judging by all the “God-talk” here. Good thing the revolutionaries of 1776 were not so ill-advised.

        • Thomas Sharp

          Proud to have you there, glad to know you here.
          At the end of it all, I’ll see you on the other side.

        • Thomas Sharp

          Proud to have you there, glad to know you here.
          At the end of it all, I’ll see you on the other side.

        • Thomas Sharp

          Proud to have you there, glad to know you here.
          At the end of it all, I’ll see you on the other side.

        • texas57

          im with you both, meet you in the ditch or prostate before the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob….until then im locked and loaded

        • texas57

          im with you both, meet you in the ditch or prostate before the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob….until then im locked and loaded

        • texas57

          im with you both, meet you in the ditch or prostate before the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob….until then im locked and loaded

      • john4637

        God and some good patriots armed and trained in the use of their weapons.

      • john4637

        God and some good patriots armed and trained in the use of their weapons.

      • john4637

        God and some good patriots armed and trained in the use of their weapons.

      • john4637

        God and some good patriots armed and trained in the use of their weapons.

      • http://www.capalert.com/ Medic01

        [Mr. Sharp] A bloodbath it may be, but it won’t be just our blood. “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” [Thomas Jefferson] I suspect if war with the government happens that ObaMao’s brown shirts and the blue helmets who goosestep up and down our streets will soon discover that We the People are not as inept at homeland warfare as the movie “Red Dawn” suggests.

        • Thomas Sharp

          Indeed.

        • Thomas Sharp

          Indeed.

        • Thomas Sharp

          Indeed.

        • Thomas Sharp

          Indeed.

    • Thomas Sharp

      I too thing it will be a bloodbath.
      God save US, for only He can.

    • Thomas Sharp

      I too thing it will be a bloodbath.
      God save US, for only He can.

    • Thomas Sharp

      I too thing it will be a bloodbath.
      God save US, for only He can.

    • garysvent

      Not to mention the unleashing of biological agents into the air and water. No need to shoot or blow up infrastructure if all you want to do is kill un-friendlies. It is with trepidation any thinking person would approach the notion that a bunch of civilians, no mater how motivated and led, could successfully take on a Federal Army trained in urban warfare.

    • garysvent

      Not to mention the unleashing of biological agents into the air and water. No need to shoot or blow up infrastructure if all you want to do is kill un-friendlies. It is with trepidation any thinking person would approach the notion that a bunch of civilians, no mater how motivated and led, could successfully take on a Federal Army trained in urban warfare.

    • garysvent

      Not to mention the unleashing of biological agents into the air and water. No need to shoot or blow up infrastructure if all you want to do is kill un-friendlies. It is with trepidation any thinking person would approach the notion that a bunch of civilians, no mater how motivated and led, could successfully take on a Federal Army trained in urban warfare.

    • garysvent

      Not to mention the unleashing of biological agents into the air and water. No need to shoot or blow up infrastructure if all you want to do is kill un-friendlies. It is with trepidation any thinking person would approach the notion that a bunch of civilians, no mater how motivated and led, could successfully take on a Federal Army trained in urban warfare.

  • Zundfolge

    The problem with using the Talaban and VC as examples of victors in asymmetrical warfare is to remember that in both cases they aren’t winning because of their military prowess or tactical strikes, they’re winning because public opinion here at home has a bearing on military action which keeps our soldiers operating under stupid, borderline suicidal ROEs and with rules against wholesale slaughter and everyone knows they’ll eventually be pulled out before they ever achieve anything close to victory.

    If the very public who’s opinion has forced our military to pull defeat from the jaws of victory time and time again is actually the TARGET of this military, there will be nobody causing them to “pull their punches” … nobody pulling them out prematurely just because they show flag draped coffins on TV and nobody applying political pressure to end the war at all costs because “war is not the answer”.

    The only reason that asymmetrical/guerrilla warfare works at all is when the guerrillas are fighting a moral and ethical (and to be honest somewhat squeamish) power that abides by things like the Geneva/Hague conventions, Queens-bury Rules and common decency.

    Once a tyrannical American government turns its guns on its people it will make the slaughters of innocents under Stalin and Mao look like church picnics.

  • Zundfolge

    The problem with using the Talaban and VC as examples of victors in asymmetrical warfare is to remember that in both cases they aren’t winning because of their military prowess or tactical strikes, they’re winning because public opinion here at home has a bearing on military action which keeps our soldiers operating under stupid, borderline suicidal ROEs and with rules against wholesale slaughter and everyone knows they’ll eventually be pulled out before they ever achieve anything close to victory.

    If the very public who’s opinion has forced our military to pull defeat from the jaws of victory time and time again is actually the TARGET of this military, there will be nobody causing them to “pull their punches” … nobody pulling them out prematurely just because they show flag draped coffins on TV and nobody applying political pressure to end the war at all costs because “war is not the answer”.

    The only reason that asymmetrical/guerrilla warfare works at all is when the guerrillas are fighting a moral and ethical (and to be honest somewhat squeamish) power that abides by things like the Geneva/Hague conventions, Queens-bury Rules and common decency.

    Once a tyrannical American government turns its guns on its people it will make the slaughters of innocents under Stalin and Mao look like church picnics.

  • Zundfolge

    The problem with using the Talaban and VC as examples of victors in asymmetrical warfare is to remember that in both cases they aren’t winning because of their military prowess or tactical strikes, they’re winning because public opinion here at home has a bearing on military action which keeps our soldiers operating under stupid, borderline suicidal ROEs and with rules against wholesale slaughter and everyone knows they’ll eventually be pulled out before they ever achieve anything close to victory.

    If the very public who’s opinion has forced our military to pull defeat from the jaws of victory time and time again is actually the TARGET of this military, there will be nobody causing them to “pull their punches” … nobody pulling them out prematurely just because they show flag draped coffins on TV and nobody applying political pressure to end the war at all costs because “war is not the answer”.

    The only reason that asymmetrical/guerrilla warfare works at all is when the guerrillas are fighting a moral and ethical (and to be honest somewhat squeamish) power that abides by things like the Geneva/Hague conventions, Queens-bury Rules and common decency.

    Once a tyrannical American government turns its guns on its people it will make the slaughters of innocents under Stalin and Mao look like church picnics.

  • Thomas Sharp

    The parallels between Barack and Adolf are strikingly similar, almost as if the puppet-master pulling the strings today was present in Hitlers Germany.
    Sadly, I do not think Adolph was as evil as whoever is behind Barack Obama. According to people that claim to know Barack, he is too lazy and stupid to be calling the shots himself. Inept is at best, all the poster child for affirmative action is capable of. (He plays, while America burns)

    • $6286490

      George Soros,(a Jew) who sold out his family and friends tot he Nazis, just to watch them be executed so he could stay alive and steal their money and belongings.

    • $6286490

      George Soros,(a Jew) who sold out his family and friends tot he Nazis, just to watch them be executed so he could stay alive and steal their money and belongings.

      • Bob Miller

        That is the real reason. obama is so in debt to soros, who dreams of world domination. “the new world order.” Not too many people are aware of this, but obama sent Marines (started off with 100, now about 2,000) to eastern kenya because of the civil unrest. Guess what? soros owns oil fields there.

      • Bob Miller

        That is the real reason. obama is so in debt to soros, who dreams of world domination. “the new world order.” Not too many people are aware of this, but obama sent Marines (started off with 100, now about 2,000) to eastern kenya because of the civil unrest. Guess what? soros owns oil fields there.

      • Lisa

        … and Valerie Jarrett, born in Iran, who’s father was a commie, and Saudi Arabia who paid for B.O’s education, backed his el presidente campaigns, even owns 7% of Fox news .. he’s beholding to them-he’s just their rock star image poster boy to sell this crap to the morons of the country-added to the corruption of the voting system & the crony capitalists. This is a long awaited & worked on orchestrated socialist/Muslim take over of our country, while we sit & behave like good little civilized people. Am I angry & bitter-you bet! Am I resolved to defend the country my ancestors fought & died for in the American Revolution, the Civil War, the Alamo, WWI, WWII & recently serving: my dad in the navy, son in the USMC & my nephew in Afghanistan/USMC? To protect my children’s right to a chance of a free country, if we can get off our duffs & end this tyranny-you bet! Oorah!

      • Lisa

        … and Valerie Jarrett, born in Iran, who’s father was a commie, and Saudi Arabia who paid for B.O’s education, backed his el presidente campaigns, even owns 7% of Fox news .. he’s beholding to them-he’s just their rock star image poster boy to sell this crap to the morons of the country-added to the corruption of the voting system & the crony capitalists. This is a long awaited & worked on orchestrated socialist/Muslim take over of our country, while we sit & behave like good little civilized people. Am I angry & bitter-you bet! Am I resolved to defend the country my ancestors fought & died for in the American Revolution, the Civil War, the Alamo, WWI, WWII & recently serving: my dad in the navy, son in the USMC & my nephew in Afghanistan/USMC? To protect my children’s right to a chance of a free country, if we can get off our duffs & end this tyranny-you bet! Oorah!

    • $6286490

      George Soros,(a Jew) who sold out his family and friends tot he Nazis, just to watch them be executed so he could stay alive and steal their money and belongings.

    • $6286490

      George Soros,(a Jew) who sold out his family and friends tot he Nazis, just to watch them be executed so he could stay alive and steal their money and belongings.

    • Alfred Ferguson

      Yes, he may be lazy. But stupid? Not so sure. He plays his cards rather well. Let us follow the advice of the great generals of history, from Alexander to Hannibal to Caesar. . .to Patton: “Never underestimate the enemy. Know him, hold him close (metaphorically speaking). But never underestimate him. Never allow your dislike or hatred of your enemy lead you to a contemptuous dismissal of your enemy, even though your enemy be contemptible.” (paraphrased from multiple sources)

      • Thomas Sharp

        His fell professors at Chicago college called him “lazy and Stupid”.
        He is well coaches indeed, although he is mostly an empty suit/actor following a script he did not write. Watch him stumble without his teleprompters. He does indeed look stupid to me.
        I do not underestimate his capacity for evil though. He is indeed contemptible, and the power behind him, even more so. I do not dismiss him, though I wish he were dispatched from the living.
        It too would be an honor to stand beside a patriot like yourself, Mr Ferguson. I do so now in spirit.

        • Dale Ness

          Psalms 109:8 Let his days be few, and let another take his office!

        • Dale Ness

          Psalms 109:8 Let his days be few, and let another take his office!

        • Dale Ness

          Psalms 109:8 Let his days be few, and let another take his office!

      • Thomas Sharp

        His fell professors at Chicago college called him “lazy and Stupid”.
        He is well coaches indeed, although he is mostly an empty suit/actor following a script he did not write. Watch him stumble without his teleprompters. He does indeed look stupid to me.
        I do not underestimate his capacity for evil though. He is indeed contemptible, and the power behind him, even more so. I do not dismiss him, though I wish he were dispatched from the living.
        It too would be an honor to stand beside a patriot like yourself, Mr Ferguson. I do so now in spirit.

      • Thomas Sharp

        His fell professors at Chicago college called him “lazy and Stupid”.
        He is well coaches indeed, although he is mostly an empty suit/actor following a script he did not write. Watch him stumble without his teleprompters. He does indeed look stupid to me.
        I do not underestimate his capacity for evil though. He is indeed contemptible, and the power behind him, even more so. I do not dismiss him, though I wish he were dispatched from the living.
        It too would be an honor to stand beside a patriot like yourself, Mr Ferguson. I do so now in spirit.

      • Thomas Sharp

        His fell professors at Chicago college called him “lazy and Stupid”.
        He is well coaches indeed, although he is mostly an empty suit/actor following a script he did not write. Watch him stumble without his teleprompters. He does indeed look stupid to me.
        I do not underestimate his capacity for evil though. He is indeed contemptible, and the power behind him, even more so. I do not dismiss him, though I wish he were dispatched from the living.
        It too would be an honor to stand beside a patriot like yourself, Mr Ferguson. I do so now in spirit.

    • Alfred Ferguson

      Yes, he may be lazy. But stupid? Not so sure. He plays his cards rather well. Let us follow the advice of the great generals of history, from Alexander to Hannibal to Caesar. . .to Patton: “Never underestimate the enemy. Know him, hold him close (metaphorically speaking). But never underestimate him. Never allow your dislike or hatred of your enemy lead you to a contemptuous dismissal of your enemy, even though your enemy be contemptible.” (paraphrased from multiple sources)

    • Alfred Ferguson

      Yes, he may be lazy. But stupid? Not so sure. He plays his cards rather well. Let us follow the advice of the great generals of history, from Alexander to Hannibal to Caesar. . .to Patton: “Never underestimate the enemy. Know him, hold him close (metaphorically speaking). But never underestimate him. Never allow your dislike or hatred of your enemy lead you to a contemptuous dismissal of your enemy, even though your enemy be contemptible.” (paraphrased from multiple sources)

    • Alfred Ferguson

      Yes, he may be lazy. But stupid? Not so sure. He plays his cards rather well. Let us follow the advice of the great generals of history, from Alexander to Hannibal to Caesar. . .to Patton: “Never underestimate the enemy. Know him, hold him close (metaphorically speaking). But never underestimate him. Never allow your dislike or hatred of your enemy lead you to a contemptuous dismissal of your enemy, even though your enemy be contemptible.” (paraphrased from multiple sources)

    • runnindeer

      In some way’s he is. Both have Satan at the wheel and then there is George Soros who had very close ties to Hitler but is now walking around as a united States Citizen because America put itself up for sale and Soros bought too much of it.

    • runnindeer

      In some way’s he is. Both have Satan at the wheel and then there is George Soros who had very close ties to Hitler but is now walking around as a united States Citizen because America put itself up for sale and Soros bought too much of it.

      • Thomas Sharp

        My point exactly.

      • Thomas Sharp

        My point exactly.

    • runnindeer

      In some way’s he is. Both have Satan at the wheel and then there is George Soros who had very close ties to Hitler but is now walking around as a united States Citizen because America put itself up for sale and Soros bought too much of it.

    • runnindeer

      In some way’s he is. Both have Satan at the wheel and then there is George Soros who had very close ties to Hitler but is now walking around as a united States Citizen because America put itself up for sale and Soros bought too much of it.

    • garysvent

      He is the most spectacularly failed Affirmative Action hire in history. Ineptitude itself is offended by the comparison.

      Glib leftist nostrums do not governing create, but rather oppression; for they know not what it is that distinguishes leadership from dictatorship.

    • garysvent

      He is the most spectacularly failed Affirmative Action hire in history. Ineptitude itself is offended by the comparison.

      Glib leftist nostrums do not governing create, but rather oppression; for they know not what it is that distinguishes leadership from dictatorship.

    • garysvent

      He is the most spectacularly failed Affirmative Action hire in history. Ineptitude itself is offended by the comparison.

      Glib leftist nostrums do not governing create, but rather oppression; for they know not what it is that distinguishes leadership from dictatorship.

    • garysvent

      He is the most spectacularly failed Affirmative Action hire in history. Ineptitude itself is offended by the comparison.

      Glib leftist nostrums do not governing create, but rather oppression; for they know not what it is that distinguishes leadership from dictatorship.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1181395670 William Smith

      Ultimately, it is the same ‘puppet-master’ pulling the strings. It’s Satan himself. Old Lucifer, the Dragon of old, the great Deceiver. He pulled Adolf’s strings, now he’s pulling BHO’s strings via George Soros. It’s all about the so-called New World Order. Another name for a one world government. A single gov’t headed by someone endewelt by Satan. This time, it will end differently.

      First, the rapture of the church. This does not mean every person who calls themselves “Christian”. It means only those who have received Jesus Christ as Lord, God and Savior. By rapture, it means that Jesus will come down into the clouds and with the Trumpet call and a loud voice call His bride (true Christians). The first to rise are those that are asleep in Christ (Christians that have died). The graves will not burst open, the bodies will just disappear. Jesus will bring the spirits or those dead with Him to be joined with their transformed bodies. Then those Christians who are alive will be instantaneously transformed from mortal bodies to immortal bodies (much like the angels) and will meet Jesus in the clouds and return with Him to Heaven.

      Later, maybe at the same time or at a later time (days, weeks, months) a leader will broker some sort of agreement guaranteeing peace and safety to the State of Israel. It is that leader who will use both peaceful and military means to become a world leader. A leader of a true NWO, a One world order.

      It will be a world that I don’t want to be part of. I am a Christian. My duty is to God, my family, my country. If I am still here when the SHTF, I will take my side along with my brothers-at-arms, and even in my pain racked body, will take aim and fire and uphold my oath until my Lord takes me home.

      ABE3, USN 1980-91
      ET2, USCG 1991-99

      Semper Paratus

      • Thomas Sharp

        Semper Fortis
        That old serpent is a defeated foe. Jesus did that on the cross.
        Thanks for your reply. When the SHTF, continue to be the fan.

      • Thomas Sharp

        Semper Fortis
        That old serpent is a defeated foe. Jesus did that on the cross.
        Thanks for your reply. When the SHTF, continue to be the fan.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1181395670 William Smith

      Ultimately, it is the same ‘puppet-master’ pulling the strings. It’s Satan himself. Old Lucifer, the Dragon of old, the great Deceiver. He pulled Adolf’s strings, now he’s pulling BHO’s strings via George Soros. It’s all about the so-called New World Order. Another name for a one world government. A single gov’t headed by someone endewelt by Satan. This time, it will end differently.

      First, the rapture of the church. This does not mean every person who calls themselves “Christian”. It means only those who have received Jesus Christ as Lord, God and Savior. By rapture, it means that Jesus will come down into the clouds and with the Trumpet call and a loud voice call His bride (true Christians). The first to rise are those that are asleep in Christ (Christians that have died). The graves will not burst open, the bodies will just disappear. Jesus will bring the spirits or those dead with Him to be joined with their transformed bodies. Then those Christians who are alive will be instantaneously transformed from mortal bodies to immortal bodies (much like the angels) and will meet Jesus in the clouds and return with Him to Heaven.

      Later, maybe at the same time or at a later time (days, weeks, months) a leader will broker some sort of agreement guaranteeing peace and safety to the State of Israel. It is that leader who will use both peaceful and military means to become a world leader. A leader of a true NWO, a One world order.

      It will be a world that I don’t want to be part of. I am a Christian. My duty is to God, my family, my country. If I am still here when the SHTF, I will take my side along with my brothers-at-arms, and even in my pain racked body, will take aim and fire and uphold my oath until my Lord takes me home.

      ABE3, USN 1980-91
      ET2, USCG 1991-99

      Semper Paratus

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1181395670 William Smith

      Ultimately, it is the same ‘puppet-master’ pulling the strings. It’s Satan himself. Old Lucifer, the Dragon of old, the great Deceiver. He pulled Adolf’s strings, now he’s pulling BHO’s strings via George Soros. It’s all about the so-called New World Order. Another name for a one world government. A single gov’t headed by someone endewelt by Satan. This time, it will end differently.

      First, the rapture of the church. This does not mean every person who calls themselves “Christian”. It means only those who have received Jesus Christ as Lord, God and Savior. By rapture, it means that Jesus will come down into the clouds and with the Trumpet call and a loud voice call His bride (true Christians). The first to rise are those that are asleep in Christ (Christians that have died). The graves will not burst open, the bodies will just disappear. Jesus will bring the spirits or those dead with Him to be joined with their transformed bodies. Then those Christians who are alive will be instantaneously transformed from mortal bodies to immortal bodies (much like the angels) and will meet Jesus in the clouds and return with Him to Heaven.

      Later, maybe at the same time or at a later time (days, weeks, months) a leader will broker some sort of agreement guaranteeing peace and safety to the State of Israel. It is that leader who will use both peaceful and military means to become a world leader. A leader of a true NWO, a One world order.

      It will be a world that I don’t want to be part of. I am a Christian. My duty is to God, my family, my country. If I am still here when the SHTF, I will take my side along with my brothers-at-arms, and even in my pain racked body, will take aim and fire and uphold my oath until my Lord takes me home.

      ABE3, USN 1980-91
      ET2, USCG 1991-99

      Semper Paratus

  • Thomas Sharp

    The parallels between Barack and Adolf are strikingly similar, almost as if the puppet-master pulling the strings today was present in Hitlers Germany.
    Sadly, I do not think Adolph was as evil as whoever is behind Barack Obama. According to people that claim to know Barack, he is too lazy and stupid to be calling the shots himself. Inept is at best, all the poster child for affirmative action is capable of. (He plays, while America burns)

  • Thomas Sharp

    The parallels between Barack and Adolf are strikingly similar, almost as if the puppet-master pulling the strings today was present in Hitlers Germany.
    Sadly, I do not think Adolph was as evil as whoever is behind Barack Obama. According to people that claim to know Barack, he is too lazy and stupid to be calling the shots himself. Inept is at best, all the poster child for affirmative action is capable of. (He plays, while America burns)

  • Thomas Sharp

    The parallels between Barack and Adolf are strikingly similar, almost as if the puppet-master pulling the strings today was present in Hitlers Germany.
    Sadly, I do not think Adolph was as evil as whoever is behind Barack Obama. According to people that claim to know Barack, he is too lazy and stupid to be calling the shots himself. Inept is at best, all the poster child for affirmative action is capable of. (He plays, while America burns)

  • marineh2ominer

    I am aware that Obam ass has fired or forced into retirement at least twenty high level military staff that gave him the wrong ,( in his view ) answer on the question , would you fire on American citizens . I am not going to attack my government but I am not going to go along with their unconstitutional tyranny , I will resist , it will probably be futile because I am not in any group , I am over the hill ,and I am even crippled , but I will resist .

  • marineh2ominer

    I am aware that Obam ass has fired or forced into retirement at least twenty high level military staff that gave him the wrong ,( in his view ) answer on the question , would you fire on American citizens . I am not going to attack my government but I am not going to go along with their unconstitutional tyranny , I will resist , it will probably be futile because I am not in any group , I am over the hill ,and I am even crippled , but I will resist .

    • Thomas Sharp

      I will be there with you too.
      I may be found dead in a ditch, but it too will be full of spent brass.

      • Alfred Ferguson

        Hell, I’m just an old fart, with arthritis, weak eye-sight, near 80. But I can stop a bullet–save the young warriors for some major assault. Beats hell out of the old-folks home.

        • runnindeer

          Amen! That may be the Rapture that so many folks think is coming. Instead of being bemed up of taken out we have to actually die for Christianity as a whole in order to be raptured and resurrected. I’ve never really understood that Biblical reference but where it say’s ‘we shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed in the blink of an eye’ that sounds like death since Biblical reference calls death sleep. History has shown that people can be changed in the blink of an eye. The war between the States for example. the majority of people went to sleep in America and woke up in another country with a war that they didn’t want of make to have to deal with.

          • irish8787

            I AGREE 100 %

          • irish8787

            I AGREE 100 %

          • irish8787

            I AGREE 100 %

          • http://www.capalert.com/ Medic01

            “We shall not all sleep” does indeed refer to death, runnindeer, but not mortal death. It refers to spiritual death, meaning forever separated from God — in Hell. The nonbelievers will “sleep” forever in Hell. The change in the blink of any eye is the Rapture in which all believers will be taken up with Christ into Heaven — changed — in the blink of an eye.

          • http://www.capalert.com/ Medic01

            “We shall not all sleep” does indeed refer to death, runnindeer, but not mortal death. It refers to spiritual death, meaning forever separated from God — in Hell. The nonbelievers will “sleep” forever in Hell. The change in the blink of any eye is the Rapture in which all believers will be taken up with Christ into Heaven — changed — in the blink of an eye.

          • Susan Borden

            Amen!

          • Susan Borden

            Amen!

          • Susan Borden

            Amen!

          • karolh

            Hoorah, Medic01, you got that right. No man knows the hour, only the Father. But Jesus is coming for His own and we will be watching. In the meantime, lock and load!

          • karolh

            Hoorah, Medic01, you got that right. No man knows the hour, only the Father. But Jesus is coming for His own and we will be watching. In the meantime, lock and load!

          • karolh

            Hoorah, Medic01, you got that right. No man knows the hour, only the Father. But Jesus is coming for His own and we will be watching. In the meantime, lock and load!

          • karolh

            Hoorah, Medic01, you got that right. No man knows the hour, only the Father. But Jesus is coming for His own and we will be watching. In the meantime, lock and load!

          • http://www.facebook.com/adam.g.carpenter Adam Godfrey Carpenter

            Well said I always thought a half a blink , hope do anyway cya at the dance , scout out

          • http://www.facebook.com/adam.g.carpenter Adam Godfrey Carpenter

            Well said I always thought a half a blink , hope do anyway cya at the dance , scout out

          • http://www.facebook.com/adam.g.carpenter Adam Godfrey Carpenter

            Well said I always thought a half a blink , hope do anyway cya at the dance , scout out

          • Mike

            There’s not going to be no rapture. Margret McDonald came over here on a ship from europe in the 1830′s and started that great lie. We somehow want to be “raptured” out and not have to go through no tough times when the very disicples of Christ, whom he had laid his hands on and imparted power to them to heal the sick, cast out demons and even raise the dead,all died terrible deaths except john, exiled on the isle of phatmos and died an old man. Rapture is one of the biggest lies satan has ever been allowed to perpertrate and is going to disappoint so many millions if they don’t wise up and gear up. They’ll be caught with their pants down in a big way and not be prepared, get prepared and throw that silliness out, be blessed one and all.

          • Mike

            There’s not going to be no rapture. Margret McDonald came over here on a ship from europe in the 1830′s and started that great lie. We somehow want to be “raptured” out and not have to go through no tough times when the very disicples of Christ, whom he had laid his hands on and imparted power to them to heal the sick, cast out demons and even raise the dead,all died terrible deaths except john, exiled on the isle of phatmos and died an old man. Rapture is one of the biggest lies satan has ever been allowed to perpertrate and is going to disappoint so many millions if they don’t wise up and gear up. They’ll be caught with their pants down in a big way and not be prepared, get prepared and throw that silliness out, be blessed one and all.

          • Mike

            There’s not going to be no rapture. Margret McDonald came over here on a ship from europe in the 1830′s and started that great lie. We somehow want to be “raptured” out and not have to go through no tough times when the very disicples of Christ, whom he had laid his hands on and imparted power to them to heal the sick, cast out demons and even raise the dead,all died terrible deaths except john, exiled on the isle of phatmos and died an old man. Rapture is one of the biggest lies satan has ever been allowed to perpertrate and is going to disappoint so many millions if they don’t wise up and gear up. They’ll be caught with their pants down in a big way and not be prepared, get prepared and throw that silliness out, be blessed one and all.

          • Mike

            There’s not going to be no rapture. Margret McDonald came over here on a ship from europe in the 1830′s and started that great lie. We somehow want to be “raptured” out and not have to go through no tough times when the very disicples of Christ, whom he had laid his hands on and imparted power to them to heal the sick, cast out demons and even raise the dead,all died terrible deaths except john, exiled on the isle of phatmos and died an old man. Rapture is one of the biggest lies satan has ever been allowed to perpertrate and is going to disappoint so many millions if they don’t wise up and gear up. They’ll be caught with their pants down in a big way and not be prepared, get prepared and throw that silliness out, be blessed one and all.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            There is only one way to heaven and
            here is how to get there.

            http://www.chick.com/the_story_of_jesus/

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            There is only one way to heaven and
            here is how to get there.

            http://www.chick.com/the_story_of_jesus/

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            There is only one way to heaven and
            here is how to get there.

            http://www.chick.com/the_story_of_jesus/

          • http://www.capalert.com/ Medic01

            “We shall not all sleep” does indeed refer to death, runnindeer, but not mortal death. It refers to spiritual death, meaning forever separated from God — in Hell. The nonbelievers will “sleep” forever in Hell. The change in the blink of any eye is the Rapture in which all believers will be taken up with Christ into Heaven — changed — in the blink of an eye.

          • http://www.capalert.com/ Medic01

            “We shall not all sleep” does indeed refer to death, runnindeer, but not mortal death. It refers to spiritual death, meaning forever separated from God — in Hell. The nonbelievers will “sleep” forever in Hell. The change in the blink of any eye is the Rapture in which all believers will be taken up with Christ into Heaven — changed — in the blink of an eye.

          • $28109413

            I’m paraphrasing of course. But the lord says the first time was by water (Noahs flood). The next time will be by fire. As in Ready, Aim, FIRE…….

          • $28109413

            I’m paraphrasing of course. But the lord says the first time was by water (Noahs flood). The next time will be by fire. As in Ready, Aim, FIRE…….

          • $28109413

            I’m paraphrasing of course. But the lord says the first time was by water (Noahs flood). The next time will be by fire. As in Ready, Aim, FIRE…….

          • $28109413

            I’m paraphrasing of course. But the lord says the first time was by water (Noahs flood). The next time will be by fire. As in Ready, Aim, FIRE…….

        • runnindeer

          Amen! That may be the Rapture that so many folks think is coming. Instead of being bemed up of taken out we have to actually die for Christianity as a whole in order to be raptured and resurrected. I’ve never really understood that Biblical reference but where it say’s ‘we shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed in the blink of an eye’ that sounds like death since Biblical reference calls death sleep. History has shown that people can be changed in the blink of an eye. The war between the States for example. the majority of people went to sleep in America and woke up in another country with a war that they didn’t want of make to have to deal with.

        • runnindeer

          Amen! That may be the Rapture that so many folks think is coming. Instead of being bemed up of taken out we have to actually die for Christianity as a whole in order to be raptured and resurrected. I’ve never really understood that Biblical reference but where it say’s ‘we shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed in the blink of an eye’ that sounds like death since Biblical reference calls death sleep. History has shown that people can be changed in the blink of an eye. The war between the States for example. the majority of people went to sleep in America and woke up in another country with a war that they didn’t want of make to have to deal with.

        • Steve Rogers

          Well said!

        • Steve Rogers

          Well said!

        • Steve Rogers

          Well said!

        • KAS

          Alfred, I too am 78 and a Vet. I guess it would help in the health care if the old guys just stood up to this Administration. If they shoot us oh well, it will cut their cost…
          What MAY HAPPEN is, the militaru will turn on the Administration. After all look how they have treated the Military..
          He, the guy in the front office better be carefull. KAS

          • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

            Well, I wish the Calvery would hurry up and get here. It’s hitting really deep.

          • coggin

            Cavalry – a horse-mounted military regiment

            Calvary – refers to the crucifixion of Christ

          • coggin

            Cavalry – a horse-mounted military regiment

            Calvary – refers to the crucifixion of Christ

          • coggin

            Cavalry – a horse-mounted military regiment

            Calvary – refers to the crucifixion of Christ

          • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

            Well, I wish the Calvery would hurry up and get here. It’s hitting really deep.

          • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

            Well, I wish the Calvery would hurry up and get here. It’s hitting really deep.

          • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

            Well, I wish the Calvery would hurry up and get here. It’s hitting really deep.

        • KAS

          Alfred, I too am 78 and a Vet. I guess it would help in the health care if the old guys just stood up to this Administration. If they shoot us oh well, it will cut their cost…
          What MAY HAPPEN is, the militaru will turn on the Administration. After all look how they have treated the Military..
          He, the guy in the front office better be carefull. KAS

        • KAS

          Alfred, I too am 78 and a Vet. I guess it would help in the health care if the old guys just stood up to this Administration. If they shoot us oh well, it will cut their cost…
          What MAY HAPPEN is, the militaru will turn on the Administration. After all look how they have treated the Military..
          He, the guy in the front office better be carefull. KAS

        • irish8787

          Same as me I am 61

          • $28109413

            52 years YOUNG….

          • $28109413

            52 years YOUNG….

        • irish8787

          Same as me I am 61

        • irish8787

          Same as me I am 61

        • irish8787

          Same as me I am 61

        • http://www.capalert.com/ Medic01

          Maybe you can stop a bullet, Alfred but you can fire a few as well.

          • irish8787

            We are all Old VET’S that Is Why WE have BRASS BALLS

          • erehwon

            Some of us don’t have brass *balls* …

          • CXJ

            Ok, “Iron Bras” will do… ;)

          • erehwon

            Some of us don’t have brass *balls* …

          • erehwon

            Some of us don’t have brass *balls* …

          • erehwon

            Some of us don’t have brass *balls* …

          • SOS

            Time to start swinging them brass balls Marine! I see old buildings that need coming down.

          • irish8787

            I Forget To Say We Have Been There And Done IT

          • erehwon

            … got the tee-shirt and the hat.

          • erehwon

            … got the tee-shirt and the hat.

          • erehwon

            … got the tee-shirt and the hat.

          • erehwon

            … got the tee-shirt and the hat.

        • http://www.capalert.com/ Medic01

          Maybe you can stop a bullet, Alfred but you can fire a few as well.

        • http://www.capalert.com/ Medic01

          Maybe you can stop a bullet, Alfred but you can fire a few as well.

        • http://www.capalert.com/ Medic01

          Maybe you can stop a bullet, Alfred but you can fire a few as well.

        • Chappy

          I’m a 3%’er, count me in ! I got a few good years left in me, I believe I could get them DHS girls to waste a couple thousand of those rounds before they ‘tag’ me. Won’t bother me a bit to take a few with me before I go. There’s no tellin’ what an old Marine with an ax to grind is capable of.

          • $28109413

            Some people go their whole life wondering if they ever made a difference.
            Marines don’t have that problem.
            Ronald
            Reagan
            40th president of US (1911 – 2004)

          • irish8787

            Yes Marines Dont

          • ADRoberts

            A second reason to buy 1.6 billion rounds of ammo.
            Dry up the ammo that is available for the citizens. That is what Obama was talking about when he said that he would have to “work under the radar.” Right now, I can still buy guns. But it is just about impossible to find any ammo at all. And what he can find is very expensive.
            What DHS does not know is that most of it is being stored up now and is not being used for even practice or fun. Americans are getting ready.
            Beware, DHS agents. The next time you go out to BLINDLY follow the instructions of Napolitano, the patriot you are trying to disarm has the LEGAL right to resist. And it does not matter what any liberal judge may say in any warrant you may be carrying.

          • sickpuppy70454

            I don’t totally agree. If you have the patience, you can still get a decent supply at reasonable prices. In the past 6 months, I’ve accumulated over 1000 rounds of everything I’m able to shoot.
            I DO agree that most of what’s being bought is being stored. I’ll practice with my handloads, or some REALLY cheap store bought. The good stuff is in storage.

          • DAY

            I MANAGED TO GET 3000 “PLUS” ,, WAY PLUS, ROUNDS OF MY AK AMMO, EVEN MORE 22 LR AMMO FOR MY RUGER 10-22 AND A FEW THOUSAND ROUNDS OF GOOD REMINGTON 45 AMMO FOR MY MAIN SIDE ARM. THAT WAS BEFORE ALL THIS OVOMIT BUYING UP THE AMMO. I HAVEN’T BEEN LOOKING FOR MORE YET, HOPING THAT THE SUPPLY WOULD PICK BACK UP…. BUT, I HAVE IT ALL STORED ,,, IN TWO SEPARATE PLACES, READY FOR USE. PLENTY OF MAGAZINES, AND EVEN A 75 ROUND DRUM…. COME ON SLIME BALLS,,, LET’S PLAY TAKE AWAY MY GUNS… I WILL TAKE A FEW WITH ME THAT COME TO VIOLATE MY AND YOUR RIGHTS…. JUST WISH I HAD SOME OF THAT MARINE TRAINING… I AM JUST A POOR RETIRED AF MUNITIONS/MAINTENANCE OFFICER, BUT, I DID GET A MARKSMAN RIBBON…. AND I CAN RETURN FIRE…

          • William Burke

            You should have save some money for lower-case letters.

          • William Burke

            You should have save some money for lower-case letters.

          • William Burke

            You should have save some money for lower-case letters.

          • William Burke

            You should have save some money for lower-case letters.

          • CXJ

            The Question Was: “Will American Soldiers Fire On U.S. Citizens?”

            Answer: Yes

            It’s that simple ladies and gentlemen. Suck it up. It’s going to get Down and Dirty so get used to it.

          • http://twitter.com/dankwax_com Dank Wax

            LOL. Yep. It’s a no brainer. We hate each other already. Black-white, gay-straight, 9er’s-Raiders, if some punk from Kansas can shoot a women holding her kids in Iraq, he wouldn’t hesitate for a second to light up a Wal-mart in Oakland

          • http://twitter.com/dankwax_com Dank Wax

            LOL. Yep. It’s a no brainer. We hate each other already. Black-white, gay-straight, 9er’s-Raiders, if some punk from Kansas can shoot a women holding her kids in Iraq, he wouldn’t hesitate for a second to light up a Wal-mart in Oakland

          • Phillip_in_TX

            If that happens, we get to “shoot back!”

          • http://twitter.com/dankwax_com Dank Wax

            That sounds really macho. Hopefully the government troops don’t find it in the cinders of your stick and stucco coffin, after the NWO goes Waco on you. Hide it well so that what ever rebel army rises up, may find it and put it to use.

            Btw, try painting a target on your caps lock key a see if you can hit that, deadeye.

          • http://twitter.com/dankwax_com Dank Wax

            That sounds really macho. Hopefully the government troops don’t find it in the cinders of your stick and stucco coffin, after the NWO goes Waco on you. Hide it well so that what ever rebel army rises up, may find it and put it to use.

            Btw, try painting a target on your caps lock key a see if you can hit that, deadeye.

          • badkarma

            Have to agree what they can’t find they can’t take. Live to fight on your terms not theirs. The world has enough martyrs.

          • http://twitter.com/dankwax_com Dank Wax

            That sounds really macho. Hopefully the government troops don’t find it in the cinders of your stick and stucco coffin, after the NWO goes Waco on you. Hide it well so that what ever rebel army rises up, may find it and put it to use.

            Btw, try painting a target on your caps lock key a see if you can hit that, deadeye.

          • URADORK

            You would not last a minute.

          • URADORK

            You would not last a minute.

          • http://www.facebook.com/george.houchens George Houchens

            So, we should just give up?

          • http://www.facebook.com/george.houchens George Houchens

            So, we should just give up?

          • URADORK

            You would not last a minute.

          • DAY

            I MANAGED TO GET 3000 “PLUS” ,, WAY PLUS, ROUNDS OF MY AK AMMO, EVEN MORE 22 LR AMMO FOR MY RUGER 10-22 AND A FEW THOUSAND ROUNDS OF GOOD REMINGTON 45 AMMO FOR MY MAIN SIDE ARM. THAT WAS BEFORE ALL THIS OVOMIT BUYING UP THE AMMO. I HAVEN’T BEEN LOOKING FOR MORE YET, HOPING THAT THE SUPPLY WOULD PICK BACK UP…. BUT, I HAVE IT ALL STORED ,,, IN TWO SEPARATE PLACES, READY FOR USE. PLENTY OF MAGAZINES, AND EVEN A 75 ROUND DRUM…. COME ON SLIME BALLS,,, LET’S PLAY TAKE AWAY MY GUNS… I WILL TAKE A FEW WITH ME THAT COME TO VIOLATE MY AND YOUR RIGHTS…. JUST WISH I HAD SOME OF THAT MARINE TRAINING… I AM JUST A POOR RETIRED AF MUNITIONS/MAINTENANCE OFFICER, BUT, I DID GET A MARKSMAN RIBBON…. AND I CAN RETURN FIRE…

          • DAY

            I MANAGED TO GET 3000 “PLUS” ,, WAY PLUS, ROUNDS OF MY AK AMMO, EVEN MORE 22 LR AMMO FOR MY RUGER 10-22 AND A FEW THOUSAND ROUNDS OF GOOD REMINGTON 45 AMMO FOR MY MAIN SIDE ARM. THAT WAS BEFORE ALL THIS OVOMIT BUYING UP THE AMMO. I HAVEN’T BEEN LOOKING FOR MORE YET, HOPING THAT THE SUPPLY WOULD PICK BACK UP…. BUT, I HAVE IT ALL STORED ,,, IN TWO SEPARATE PLACES, READY FOR USE. PLENTY OF MAGAZINES, AND EVEN A 75 ROUND DRUM…. COME ON SLIME BALLS,,, LET’S PLAY TAKE AWAY MY GUNS… I WILL TAKE A FEW WITH ME THAT COME TO VIOLATE MY AND YOUR RIGHTS…. JUST WISH I HAD SOME OF THAT MARINE TRAINING… I AM JUST A POOR RETIRED AF MUNITIONS/MAINTENANCE OFFICER, BUT, I DID GET A MARKSMAN RIBBON…. AND I CAN RETURN FIRE…

          • sickpuppy70454

            I don’t totally agree. If you have the patience, you can still get a decent supply at reasonable prices. In the past 6 months, I’ve accumulated over 1000 rounds of everything I’m able to shoot.
            I DO agree that most of what’s being bought is being stored. I’ll practice with my handloads, or some REALLY cheap store bought. The good stuff is in storage.

          • sickpuppy70454

            I don’t totally agree. If you have the patience, you can still get a decent supply at reasonable prices. In the past 6 months, I’ve accumulated over 1000 rounds of everything I’m able to shoot.
            I DO agree that most of what’s being bought is being stored. I’ll practice with my handloads, or some REALLY cheap store bought. The good stuff is in storage.

          • USCBIKER

            Stores of govt. owned ammo are as safe as we the people let them be. If the s*** hits the fan, those supplies can be gotten to.

          • USCBIKER

            Stores of govt. owned ammo are as safe as we the people let them be. If the s*** hits the fan, those supplies can be gotten to.

          • joe

            My thoughts exactly…

          • joe

            My thoughts exactly…

          • joe

            My thoughts exactly…

          • USCBIKER

            Stores of govt. owned ammo are as safe as we the people let them be. If the s*** hits the fan, those supplies can be gotten to.

          • USCBIKER

            Stores of govt. owned ammo are as safe as we the people let them be. If the s*** hits the fan, those supplies can be gotten to.

          • panors77

            They’ll have a warrant?

          • panors77

            They’ll have a warrant?

          • panors77

            They’ll have a warrant?

          • panors77

            They’ll have a warrant?

          • ADRoberts

            A second reason to buy 1.6 billion rounds of ammo.
            Dry up the ammo that is available for the citizens. That is what Obama was talking about when he said that he would have to “work under the radar.” Right now, I can still buy guns. But it is just about impossible to find any ammo at all. And what he can find is very expensive.
            What DHS does not know is that most of it is being stored up now and is not being used for even practice or fun. Americans are getting ready.
            Beware, DHS agents. The next time you go out to BLINDLY follow the instructions of Napolitano, the patriot you are trying to disarm has the LEGAL right to resist. And it does not matter what any liberal judge may say in any warrant you may be carrying.

          • irish8787

            Yes Marines Dont

          • Thomas Sharp

            Oorah !

          • Thomas Sharp

            Oorah !

          • Thomas Sharp

            Oorah !

          • Bob

            What would Reagan have known about that?….he was a great one for grandstand red-white-&-blue flatulating like that for somebody who sat the entire war out at Fort Mason making Army training celluloid and who never once crossed the pond.

          • 529_Barb

            At least Reagan wasn’t an anti american hating muslim who never spent a nano second in a job or the military. Obama the fraud and you love him……whoopee doo……left wing moron.

          • 529_Barb

            At least Reagan wasn’t an anti american hating muslim who never spent a nano second in a job or the military. Obama the fraud and you love him……whoopee doo……left wing moron.

          • 529_Barb

            At least Reagan wasn’t an anti american hating muslim who never spent a nano second in a job or the military. Obama the fraud and you love him……whoopee doo……left wing moron.

          • 529_Barb

            At least Reagan wasn’t an anti american hating muslim who never spent a nano second in a job or the military. Obama the fraud and you love him……whoopee doo……left wing moron.

          • speedle24

            Bob, it sounds like you never crossed the pond either. In fact, I’m guessing you have never seen anything scarier than your pedicure bill.

          • KJ

            Bob’s a useful idiot. He can be our human shield.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Beach/689144370 Jay Beach

            I don’t think he’d be anywhere near enough to be used as a shield.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Beach/689144370 Jay Beach

            I don’t think he’d be anywhere near enough to be used as a shield.

          • KJ

            Bob’s a useful idiot. He can be our human shield.

          • KJ

            Bob’s a useful idiot. He can be our human shield.

          • KJ

            Bob’s a useful idiot. He can be our human shield.

          • DAGOV

            History told him. SEMPER FI 1953-58

          • DAGOV

            History told him. SEMPER FI 1953-58

          • DAGOV

            History told him. SEMPER FI 1953-58

          • Hudmar

            What are you doing, Sir.

          • Hudmar

            What are you doing, Sir.

          • Hudmar

            What are you doing, Sir.

          • Boccagalupe

            But he was doing what the country needed from him for the war effort. Sitting on the butt and running ones mouth serves no one.

          • Boccagalupe

            But he was doing what the country needed from him for the war effort. Sitting on the butt and running ones mouth serves no one.

          • Boccagalupe

            But he was doing what the country needed from him for the war effort. Sitting on the butt and running ones mouth serves no one.

          • Nick Caisse

            Reagan was a leader, and patriotic beyond question. What are you? By the looks of your post, you are a commie demoncrap who helped the fraudulent bastard into what used to be the white house. I’m sure that all the previous occupants of the People’s House are turning over in their graves, or, if alive, are disgusted beyond belief. It is difficult to fathom how much damage to this great country, your commie bastard anti-christ has done. We can’t impeach him because he is not legally there! We can, however, arrest and try his ass for treason. Pick any of the weekly treasonous act he commits, and prosecute.Re-Elact NO ONE! Semper Fi }:)

          • A.

            What a donkey you are, Bob. Regan sat out the war making war films for two reasons. His vision was too poor for the military and the Government needed men with acting ability to make films for training and propaganda.As for the so called grandstanding and flatulance, have you checked your exhaust orifice lately? Your’s stinks to high heaven!

          • A.

            What a donkey you are, Bob. Regan sat out the war making war films for two reasons. His vision was too poor for the military and the Government needed men with acting ability to make films for training and propaganda.As for the so called grandstanding and flatulance, have you checked your exhaust orifice lately? Your’s stinks to high heaven!

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Beach/689144370 Jay Beach

            Most of Hollywood got commissions for making films or propaganda. Glenn Miller was a captain who had a big band and visited the troops. Many of the big-name stars were just actors. But that did not mean they sat out the war and did nothing. It takes about 10 men to support every fighting man, so there is no shortage of REMFs to go around. Some wear uniforms and some are civilians working for the cause.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Beach/689144370 Jay Beach

            Most of Hollywood got commissions for making films or propaganda. Glenn Miller was a captain who had a big band and visited the troops. Many of the big-name stars were just actors. But that did not mean they sat out the war and did nothing. It takes about 10 men to support every fighting man, so there is no shortage of REMFs to go around. Some wear uniforms and some are civilians working for the cause.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Beach/689144370 Jay Beach

            Most of Hollywood got commissions for making films or propaganda. Glenn Miller was a captain who had a big band and visited the troops. Many of the big-name stars were just actors. But that did not mean they sat out the war and did nothing. It takes about 10 men to support every fighting man, so there is no shortage of REMFs to go around. Some wear uniforms and some are civilians working for the cause.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Beach/689144370 Jay Beach

            Most of Hollywood got commissions for making films or propaganda. Glenn Miller was a captain who had a big band and visited the troops. Many of the big-name stars were just actors. But that did not mean they sat out the war and did nothing. It takes about 10 men to support every fighting man, so there is no shortage of REMFs to go around. Some wear uniforms and some are civilians working for the cause.

          • A.

            What a donkey you are, Bob. Regan sat out the war making war films for two reasons. His vision was too poor for the military and the Government needed men with acting ability to make films for training and propaganda.As for the so called grandstanding and flatulance, have you checked your exhaust orifice lately? Your’s stinks to high heaven!

          • TexasOlTimer

            Not everyone was able for one reason or another to serve actively in the military. That does not mean they are not 100% patriotic Americans who will be standing shoulder to shoulder with vets if we have to stop an out-of-control government. Personally I welcome them – we need every able bodied person that can hold a weapon and shoot to be willing to do so. To argue whether or not they served in the military, in what capacity or went overseas is not going to aid us in our fight. Ronald Reagan or Audie Murphy – doesn’t matter. If one loves our country and freedom enough to fight and die for it, they’re welcome at my house.

          • http://www.facebook.com/ozarkman.huston Ozarkman Huston

            good point (s) !! Thx 4 sharing……….

          • CXJ

            Correction: “…kill for it…” Dying is not a good idea especially when you are in a target rich environment.

            Good day

          • TexasOlTimer

            I stand corrected! The hope would be that one need not die but be willing to do so. However, one would expect that in a fight for freedom and the willingness to die for it, one is planning on taking others on the opposite side out at the same time.

          • TexasOlTimer

            I stand corrected! The hope would be that one need not die but be willing to do so. However, one would expect that in a fight for freedom and the willingness to die for it, one is planning on taking others on the opposite side out at the same time.

          • TexasOlTimer

            I stand corrected! The hope would be that one need not die but be willing to do so. However, one would expect that in a fight for freedom and the willingness to die for it, one is planning on taking others on the opposite side out at the same time.

          • TexasOlTimer

            I stand corrected! The hope would be that one need not die but be willing to do so. However, one would expect that in a fight for freedom and the willingness to die for it, one is planning on taking others on the opposite side out at the same time.

          • Ed Williams

            I think it was Patton that said:”There is no honor in dying for your country. The honor is in making the other poor sunofabitch die for his country.”

          • Ed Williams

            I think it was Patton that said:”There is no honor in dying for your country. The honor is in making the other poor sunofabitch die for his country.”

          • Ed Williams

            I think it was Patton that said:”There is no honor in dying for your country. The honor is in making the other poor sunofabitch die for his country.”

          • CXJ

            Correction: “…kill for it…” Dying is not a good idea especially when you are in a target rich environment.

            Good day

          • CXJ

            Correction: “…kill for it…” Dying is not a good idea especially when you are in a target rich environment.

            Good day

          • czman

            You, sir, must have your head up ovomits’ backside…

          • czman

            You, sir, must have your head up ovomits’ backside…

          • czman

            You, sir, must have your head up ovomits’ backside…

          • czman

            You, sir, must have your head up ovomits’ backside…

          • http://twitter.com/dankwax_com Dank Wax

            So he’s bad because he didn’t go murder people? Besides, The US sat out the war too. They Obamaed it. Looked like heroes on TV and for the cameras, while 25 MILLION Russians died doing the job.. Had to rebuild their entire capital city in the winter under siege… You wore leather and hit on French chicks.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Beach/689144370 Jay Beach

            Dank, you are so full of sh*t.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Beach/689144370 Jay Beach

            Dank, you are so full of sh*t.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Beach/689144370 Jay Beach

            Dank, you are so full of sh*t.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Beach/689144370 Jay Beach

            Dank, you are so full of sh*t.

          • http://twitter.com/dankwax_com Dank Wax

            So he’s bad because he didn’t go murder people? Besides, The US sat out the war too. They Obamaed it. Looked like heroes on TV and for the cameras, while 25 MILLION Russians died doing the job.. Had to rebuild their entire capital city in the winter under siege… You wore leather and hit on French chicks.

          • http://twitter.com/dankwax_com Dank Wax

            So he’s bad because he didn’t go murder people? Besides, The US sat out the war too. They Obamaed it. Looked like heroes on TV and for the cameras, while 25 MILLION Russians died doing the job.. Had to rebuild their entire capital city in the winter under siege… You wore leather and hit on French chicks.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Beach/689144370 Jay Beach

            Don’t dump on Reagan. He gave us hope and “a new morning in America” when Carter and his friends gave us “malaise.”

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Beach/689144370 Jay Beach

            Don’t dump on Reagan. He gave us hope and “a new morning in America” when Carter and his friends gave us “malaise.”

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Beach/689144370 Jay Beach

            Don’t dump on Reagan. He gave us hope and “a new morning in America” when Carter and his friends gave us “malaise.”

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Beach/689144370 Jay Beach

            Don’t dump on Reagan. He gave us hope and “a new morning in America” when Carter and his friends gave us “malaise.”

          • Fungus Exterminator

            You’ve got it right, Bob. During Nancy and Ronald Reagan’s Hollywood spree, their dealings in the occult and devil worship go way back. Those who have done serious research know this to be fact. Nancy Reagan’s use of a “spiritualist” and Tarrot Card readers as well as other “mediums” is just the tip of the iceberg.

            http://voices.washingtonpost.com/political-bookworm/2010/04/reagan_and_the_occult.html

          • http://www.facebook.com/george.houchens George Houchens

            What the hell does that have to do with their patriotism or value to America? The Reagans were not perfect … nor were the Kennedys … but they were better than the lying Muslim fraud we have in the white house today.

          • http://www.facebook.com/george.houchens George Houchens

            What the hell does that have to do with their patriotism or value to America? The Reagans were not perfect … nor were the Kennedys … but they were better than the lying Muslim fraud we have in the white house today.

          • Fungus Exterminator

            You’ve got it right, Bob. During Nancy and Ronald Reagan’s Hollywood spree, their dealings in the occult and devil worship go way back. Those who have done serious research know this to be fact. Nancy Reagan’s use of a “spiritualist” and Tarrot Card readers as well as other “mediums” is just the tip of the iceberg.

            http://voices.washingtonpost.com/political-bookworm/2010/04/reagan_and_the_occult.html

          • Fungus Exterminator

            You’ve got it right, Bob. During Nancy and Ronald Reagan’s Hollywood spree, their dealings in the occult and devil worship go way back. Those who have done serious research know this to be fact. Nancy Reagan’s use of a “spiritualist” and Tarrot Card readers as well as other “mediums” is just the tip of the iceberg.

            http://voices.washingtonpost.com/political-bookworm/2010/04/reagan_and_the_occult.html

          • Fungus Exterminator

            You’ve got it right, Bob. During Nancy and Ronald Reagan’s Hollywood spree, their dealings in the occult and devil worship go way back. Those who have done serious research know this to be fact. Nancy Reagan’s use of a “spiritualist” and Tarrot Card readers as well as other “mediums” is just the tip of the iceberg.

            http://voices.washingtonpost.com/political-bookworm/2010/04/reagan_and_the_occult.html

          • Bob

            What would Reagan have known about that?….he was a great one for grandstand red-white-&-blue flatulating like that for somebody who sat the entire war out at Fort Mason making Army training celluloid and who never once crossed the pond.

          • Bob

            What would Reagan have known about that?….he was a great one for grandstand red-white-&-blue flatulating like that for somebody who sat the entire war out at Fort Mason making Army training celluloid and who never once crossed the pond.

          • Bob

            What would Reagan have known about that?….he was a great one for grandstand red-white-&-blue flatulating like that for somebody who sat the entire war out at Fort Mason making Army training celluloid and who never once crossed the pond.

          • TimeHasCome

            I am giving a eulogy for an old Marine . That is great quote to finish my talk.

          • TimeHasCome

            I am giving a eulogy for an old Marine . That is great quote to finish my talk.

          • TimeHasCome

            I am giving a eulogy for an old Marine . That is great quote to finish my talk.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Beach/689144370 Jay Beach

            As long as those Marines don’t decide to throw in with Obama.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Beach/689144370 Jay Beach

            As long as those Marines don’t decide to throw in with Obama.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Beach/689144370 Jay Beach

            As long as those Marines don’t decide to throw in with Obama.

          • ALL AMERICAN

            HOOAH

          • ALL AMERICAN

            HOOAH

          • ALL AMERICAN

            HOOAH

          • $28109413

            Some people go their whole life wondering if they ever made a difference.
            Marines don’t have that problem.
            Ronald
            Reagan
            40th president of US (1911 – 2004)

          • $28109413

            Some people go their whole life wondering if they ever made a difference.
            Marines don’t have that problem.
            Ronald
            Reagan
            40th president of US (1911 – 2004)

          • $28109413

            Some people go their whole life wondering if they ever made a difference.
            Marines don’t have that problem.
            Ronald
            Reagan
            40th president of US (1911 – 2004)

          • Old Fart

            Semper Fi brother. Death before dishonor. I’m not as young or as fit as the last time around, but I might be even meaner & nastier. Ooh rah.

          • pysco

            Old age, and treachery always out does youth and speed….Semper Fi….RVN 64, 65, 66, 60, 70………And still remember how its done.

          • erehwon

            Words to live — or DIE — for.

          • usmcmailman

            SEMPER FI ! Northern I Corps, Vietnam 1968-69. I didn’t want
            to miss TET !

          • usmcmailman

            SEMPER FI ! Northern I Corps, Vietnam 1968-69. I didn’t want
            to miss TET !

          • pysco

            Old age, and treachery always out does youth and speed….Semper Fi….RVN 64, 65, 66, 60, 70………And still remember how its done.

          • pysco

            Old age, and treachery always out does youth and speed….Semper Fi….RVN 64, 65, 66, 60, 70………And still remember how its done.

          • erehwon

            I’m a lady old fart, but we need to stick together.

          • CXJ

            If I were a betting man, I would guess that you are far meaner and nastier than you can imagine. Ooh Rah

          • CXJ

            If I were a betting man, I would guess that you are far meaner and nastier than you can imagine. Ooh Rah

          • Old Fart

            Semper Fi brother. Death before dishonor. I’m not as young or as fit as the last time around, but I might be even meaner & nastier. Ooh rah.

          • chetohimler

            Hoorah..Chappy!

          • chetohimler

            Hoorah..Chappy!

          • chetohimler

            Hoorah..Chappy!

          • chetohimler

            Hoorah..Chappy!

          • TexasJester

            Amen, Brother – Navy vet here. May not be great with a firearm – my job was to fix aircraft radio and radar systems; never had any formal firearms training.

            That being said, I WILL stand against my government – or what my government has become.

            I am also a proud “3%”er.

          • TexasJester

            Amen, Brother – Navy vet here. May not be great with a firearm – my job was to fix aircraft radio and radar systems; never had any formal firearms training.

            That being said, I WILL stand against my government – or what my government has become.

            I am also a proud “3%”er.

          • SOS

            We are going to need radio men, and People to work on radars eventually, when the air port radars are used by us to watch for incoming traffic. You are going to be a busy Man, and important to the restoration of the republic of States. Semper Fi!

          • TexasJester

            Only problem is, I didn’t pursue it when I got out – I went after a childhood dream: driving trucks – and THAT I’m good at!!

          • TexasJester

            Only problem is, I didn’t pursue it when I got out – I went after a childhood dream: driving trucks – and THAT I’m good at!!

          • TexasJester

            Only problem is, I didn’t pursue it when I got out – I went after a childhood dream: driving trucks – and THAT I’m good at!!

          • CXJ

            I am saddened that our nation has moved to the stage that the people have to resort to committing themselves to the idea of internal warfare. Very very sad…”3%”

            Get right with your “Maker” for the tears will become as abundant as the spilt blood.

            Before the fighting is over most will have forgotten why they had taken up arms. Never forget that its “TRUTH” for which you have fought.

            For the journey of war is horrifying. The mayhem, loss of lives, and property will be immeasurable. The “Cause” will become just a faint memory if remembered at all and in the end you will question; was the struggle worth the sorrow and and suffering? Most of you will softly sigh, yes…

            Hope will return for all things are but for a season.

            “…a time to sow, a time to reap, a time for war, a time for peace, a time to live, a time to die…”

            May God bestow a special blessing upon the:

            “Gray Hair Army.”

            Ulysses vs. Cyclops? ;)

          • CXJ

            I am saddened that our nation has moved to the stage that the people have to resort to committing themselves to the idea of internal warfare. Very very sad…”3%”

            Get right with your “Maker” for the tears will become as abundant as the spilt blood.

            Before the fighting is over most will have forgotten why they had taken up arms. Never forget that its “TRUTH” for which you have fought.

            For the journey of war is horrifying. The mayhem, loss of lives, and property will be immeasurable. The “Cause” will become just a faint memory if remembered at all and in the end you will question; was the struggle worth the sorrow and and suffering? Most of you will softly sigh, yes…

            Hope will return for all things are but for a season.

            “…a time to sow, a time to reap, a time for war, a time for peace, a time to live, a time to die…”

            May God bestow a special blessing upon the:

            “Gray Hair Army.”

            Ulysses vs. Cyclops? ;)

          • TexasJester

            Amen, Brother – Navy vet here. May not be great with a firearm – my job was to fix aircraft radio and radar systems; never had any formal firearms training.

            That being said, I WILL stand against my government – or what my government has become.

            I am also a proud “3%”er.

          • TexasJester

            Amen, Brother – Navy vet here. May not be great with a firearm – my job was to fix aircraft radio and radar systems; never had any formal firearms training.

            That being said, I WILL stand against my government – or what my government has become.

            I am also a proud “3%”er.

          • usmcmailman

            May our Lord guide your aim my Marine Brother! SEMPER FI !

        • slickzip

          AMEN

        • slickzip

          AMEN

        • slickzip

          AMEN

        • chetohimler

          I’m with you Grandpa Alfred. We’ll do whatever we can, Freedom must never be lost!

        • chetohimler

          I’m with you Grandpa Alfred. We’ll do whatever we can, Freedom must never be lost!

        • chetohimler

          I’m with you Grandpa Alfred. We’ll do whatever we can, Freedom must never be lost!

        • karen yochim

          Alfred..you’re a true patriot. Good to meet you.

          • Planar

            It’s great to see so many REAL freedom lovers here. This is something I received anonymously when I had my own World News site prior to the Obamanition … Don’t understand it all but what I do understand follows on with a lot of what I here here:

            877736412901 … 10010111100010001010010

            Old Friend, Draw closer to the minor nemesis … wait your time … the
            whitest of stones is cast. The head of the Beast … that mighty Beast
            that no one can destroy … it begins its fall … from the head to the
            tentacles and to even the nodes upon each, they go weak from the flow of
            victory … the poison of deception. As they wither and turn in madness
            upon their own … the head becomes just a head with no arms to fill and
            tie the money bags of his servants. He is to be the last to consume
            himself in hopeless madness.

            A truth not yet revealed in the documents and writs over the years:

            And the little man bade him farewell at the station in the boys
            hometown. A return to base after confrontation at the terminal. The
            words the little man spoke to the boy as he entered the bus … “I have
            plans for you” … with that all confident chilling smirk upon his face.
            Little did he know from that moment on … from the confrontation where
            the little man revealed himself after many years of secrecy … the boy
            began to set a plan of his own: one given in dreams, and time walks, and
            revelations along the way. The better plan to lift the little man and
            follow him into the pyramid … all the way up to see the one at the
            top. First meeting in a foreign land above the white cliffs many years
            later … the list became completed (as coded above in the referenced
            writ).

            The prophecy continues with quickening pace … the stone shall descend
            … the Beast shall be no more … the wars of the Beast shall finalize
            with a loss to all sides drawn into the great deception. In absentia the
            final blood of the Beast shall fill the battlefield … a drowning of
            leaders, faithful followers, enablers, and all without strength to stand
            firm in troubled times … wheat from the chaff … a pure wheat shall
            inherit the Earth … drawn from many peoples of many lands in a final
            Revelation to set a singular sacrament …

          • Planar

            It’s great to see so many REAL freedom lovers here. This is something I received anonymously when I had my own World News site prior to the Obamanition … Don’t understand it all but what I do understand follows on with a lot of what I here here:

            877736412901 … 10010111100010001010010

            Old Friend, Draw closer to the minor nemesis … wait your time … the
            whitest of stones is cast. The head of the Beast … that mighty Beast
            that no one can destroy … it begins its fall … from the head to the
            tentacles and to even the nodes upon each, they go weak from the flow of
            victory … the poison of deception. As they wither and turn in madness
            upon their own … the head becomes just a head with no arms to fill and
            tie the money bags of his servants. He is to be the last to consume
            himself in hopeless madness.

            A truth not yet revealed in the documents and writs over the years:

            And the little man bade him farewell at the station in the boys
            hometown. A return to base after confrontation at the terminal. The
            words the little man spoke to the boy as he entered the bus … “I have
            plans for you” … with that all confident chilling smirk upon his face.
            Little did he know from that moment on … from the confrontation where
            the little man revealed himself after many years of secrecy … the boy
            began to set a plan of his own: one given in dreams, and time walks, and
            revelations along the way. The better plan to lift the little man and
            follow him into the pyramid … all the way up to see the one at the
            top. First meeting in a foreign land above the white cliffs many years
            later … the list became completed (as coded above in the referenced
            writ).

            The prophecy continues with quickening pace … the stone shall descend
            … the Beast shall be no more … the wars of the Beast shall finalize
            with a loss to all sides drawn into the great deception. In absentia the
            final blood of the Beast shall fill the battlefield … a drowning of
            leaders, faithful followers, enablers, and all without strength to stand
            firm in troubled times … wheat from the chaff … a pure wheat shall
            inherit the Earth … drawn from many peoples of many lands in a final
            Revelation to set a singular sacrament …

          • Planar

            It’s great to see so many REAL freedom lovers here. This is something I received anonymously when I had my own World News site prior to the Obamanition … Don’t understand it all but what I do understand follows on with a lot of what I here here:

            877736412901 … 10010111100010001010010

            Old Friend, Draw closer to the minor nemesis … wait your time … the
            whitest of stones is cast. The head of the Beast … that mighty Beast
            that no one can destroy … it begins its fall … from the head to the
            tentacles and to even the nodes upon each, they go weak from the flow of
            victory … the poison of deception. As they wither and turn in madness
            upon their own … the head becomes just a head with no arms to fill and
            tie the money bags of his servants. He is to be the last to consume
            himself in hopeless madness.

            A truth not yet revealed in the documents and writs over the years:

            And the little man bade him farewell at the station in the boys
            hometown. A return to base after confrontation at the terminal. The
            words the little man spoke to the boy as he entered the bus … “I have
            plans for you” … with that all confident chilling smirk upon his face.
            Little did he know from that moment on … from the confrontation where
            the little man revealed himself after many years of secrecy … the boy
            began to set a plan of his own: one given in dreams, and time walks, and
            revelations along the way. The better plan to lift the little man and
            follow him into the pyramid … all the way up to see the one at the
            top. First meeting in a foreign land above the white cliffs many years
            later … the list became completed (as coded above in the referenced
            writ).

            The prophecy continues with quickening pace … the stone shall descend
            … the Beast shall be no more … the wars of the Beast shall finalize
            with a loss to all sides drawn into the great deception. In absentia the
            final blood of the Beast shall fill the battlefield … a drowning of
            leaders, faithful followers, enablers, and all without strength to stand
            firm in troubled times … wheat from the chaff … a pure wheat shall
            inherit the Earth … drawn from many peoples of many lands in a final
            Revelation to set a singular sacrament …

          • Planar

            It’s great to see so many REAL freedom lovers here. This is something I received anonymously when I had my own World News site prior to the Obamanition … Don’t understand it all but what I do understand follows on with a lot of what I here here:

            877736412901 … 10010111100010001010010

            Old Friend, Draw closer to the minor nemesis … wait your time … the
            whitest of stones is cast. The head of the Beast … that mighty Beast
            that no one can destroy … it begins its fall … from the head to the
            tentacles and to even the nodes upon each, they go weak from the flow of
            victory … the poison of deception. As they wither and turn in madness
            upon their own … the head becomes just a head with no arms to fill and
            tie the money bags of his servants. He is to be the last to consume
            himself in hopeless madness.

            A truth not yet revealed in the documents and writs over the years:

            And the little man bade him farewell at the station in the boys
            hometown. A return to base after confrontation at the terminal. The
            words the little man spoke to the boy as he entered the bus … “I have
            plans for you” … with that all confident chilling smirk upon his face.
            Little did he know from that moment on … from the confrontation where
            the little man revealed himself after many years of secrecy … the boy
            began to set a plan of his own: one given in dreams, and time walks, and
            revelations along the way. The better plan to lift the little man and
            follow him into the pyramid … all the way up to see the one at the
            top. First meeting in a foreign land above the white cliffs many years
            later … the list became completed (as coded above in the referenced
            writ).

            The prophecy continues with quickening pace … the stone shall descend
            … the Beast shall be no more … the wars of the Beast shall finalize
            with a loss to all sides drawn into the great deception. In absentia the
            final blood of the Beast shall fill the battlefield … a drowning of
            leaders, faithful followers, enablers, and all without strength to stand
            firm in troubled times … wheat from the chaff … a pure wheat shall
            inherit the Earth … drawn from many peoples of many lands in a final
            Revelation to set a singular sacrament …

        • karen yochim

          Alfred..you’re a true patriot. Good to meet you.

        • karen yochim

          Alfred..you’re a true patriot. Good to meet you.

        • karen yochim

          Alfred..you’re a true patriot. Good to meet you.

        • Bob

          Now that was god damned brave

        • Bob

          Now that was god damned brave

          • pbrown85355

            Oh Bob, God heard you, too. Piece of carp. You wouldn’t know brave if it was in front of you. Get a life, somewhere else.

          • pbrown85355

            Oh Bob, God heard you, too. Piece of carp. You wouldn’t know brave if it was in front of you. Get a life, somewhere else.

          • pbrown85355

            Oh Bob, God heard you, too. Piece of carp. You wouldn’t know brave if it was in front of you. Get a life, somewhere else.

          • pbrown85355

            Oh Bob, God heard you, too. Piece of carp. You wouldn’t know brave if it was in front of you. Get a life, somewhere else.

        • Bob

          Now that was god damned brave

        • LLinLa

          Noble comment, Al! I’m just a punk at 57 but things aren’t working like they used to. As long as I have a red dot or a scope when I can’t see the iron sights, I’ve been practicing on paper. I can reload, maybe do some suppressing fire, a little gunsmithing, work computers, etc., leave running and gunning to Nutnfancy and his young uns . . . I’ll have yer back, buddy! LOL

          • http://www.facebook.com/ozarkman.huston Ozarkman Huston

            Boo Yah !!!!!! Go Get Em !!! God Bless America

        • LLinLa

          Noble comment, Al! I’m just a punk at 57 but things aren’t working like they used to. As long as I have a red dot or a scope when I can’t see the iron sights, I’ve been practicing on paper. I can reload, maybe do some suppressing fire, a little gunsmithing, work computers, etc., leave running and gunning to Nutnfancy and his young uns . . . I’ll have yer back, buddy! LOL

        • LLinLa

          Noble comment, Al! I’m just a punk at 57 but things aren’t working like they used to. As long as I have a red dot or a scope when I can’t see the iron sights, I’ve been practicing on paper. I can reload, maybe do some suppressing fire, a little gunsmithing, work computers, etc., leave running and gunning to Nutnfancy and his young uns . . . I’ll have yer back, buddy! LOL

        • LLinLa

          Noble comment, Al! I’m just a punk at 57 but things aren’t working like they used to. As long as I have a red dot or a scope when I can’t see the iron sights, I’ve been practicing on paper. I can reload, maybe do some suppressing fire, a little gunsmithing, work computers, etc., leave running and gunning to Nutnfancy and his young uns . . . I’ll have yer back, buddy! LOL

        • mikey

          *Thank You Sir!*….(and I for You and Yours).

        • mikey

          *Thank You Sir!*….(and I for You and Yours).

        • mikey

          *Thank You Sir!*….(and I for You and Yours).

        • Mort Leith

          I’m late 50s but I’ve already started spreading my guns around in different locations, as well as ammo.

          I’ve also taken my list of all my various guns off of my Homeowners Insurance list, cuz that’s one of the first places they’ll look for info on who’s got what guns…

        • Mort Leith

          I’m late 50s but I’ve already started spreading my guns around in different locations, as well as ammo.

          I’ve also taken my list of all my various guns off of my Homeowners Insurance list, cuz that’s one of the first places they’ll look for info on who’s got what guns…

        • Mort Leith

          I’m late 50s but I’ve already started spreading my guns around in different locations, as well as ammo.

          I’ve also taken my list of all my various guns off of my Homeowners Insurance list, cuz that’s one of the first places they’ll look for info on who’s got what guns…

        • Mort Leith

          I’m late 50s but I’ve already started spreading my guns around in different locations, as well as ammo.

          I’ve also taken my list of all my various guns off of my Homeowners Insurance list, cuz that’s one of the first places they’ll look for info on who’s got what guns…

        • DavidE1940

          BRAVO!! It is the mind set and determination that counts. Though I am nearing 73 I am retired US Army with experience from 82nd Airborne and Special Forces which equals MIND OVER MATTER, I don’t mind and they don’t matter! DE OPPRESSO LIBER. God Bless America

        • DavidE1940

          BRAVO!! It is the mind set and determination that counts. Though I am nearing 73 I am retired US Army with experience from 82nd Airborne and Special Forces which equals MIND OVER MATTER, I don’t mind and they don’t matter! DE OPPRESSO LIBER. God Bless America

        • DavidE1940

          BRAVO!! It is the mind set and determination that counts. Though I am nearing 73 I am retired US Army with experience from 82nd Airborne and Special Forces which equals MIND OVER MATTER, I don’t mind and they don’t matter! DE OPPRESSO LIBER. God Bless America

      • Alfred Ferguson

        Hell, I’m just an old fart, with arthritis, weak eye-sight, near 80. But I can stop a bullet–save the young warriors for some major assault. Beats hell out of the old-folks home.

      • Alfred Ferguson

        Hell, I’m just an old fart, with arthritis, weak eye-sight, near 80. But I can stop a bullet–save the young warriors for some major assault. Beats hell out of the old-folks home.

      • Alfred Ferguson

        Hell, I’m just an old fart, with arthritis, weak eye-sight, near 80. But I can stop a bullet–save the young warriors for some major assault. Beats hell out of the old-folks home.

      • raccman

        As a Korean war vet count me in too !

      • raccman

        As a Korean war vet count me in too !

        • irish8787

          AS A VIET NAM VET COUNT ON ME TOO U.S.M.C. FOREVER

          • RLM357

            SEMPER FIDELIS ! ~Rick Magee, FL

          • irish8787

            SEMPER FIDELIS FOREVER. MICHAEL OSAN SOUTH KOREA

          • irish8787

            SEMPER FIDELIS FOREVER. MICHAEL OSAN SOUTH KOREA

          • irish8787

            SEMPER FIDELIS FOREVER. MICHAEL OSAN SOUTH KOREA

          • irish8787

            I have been in living S. Korea for 9 yrs but if it goes off in the U.S. I will be there in a HEART BEAT

          • irish8787

            I have been in living S. Korea for 9 yrs but if it goes off in the U.S. I will be there in a HEART BEAT

          • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

            God Bless you and hurry home. We need you.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Raynette-Gilbert/1048242036 Raynette Gilbert

            Thanks to each and every one of you for your service and sacrifices to this Great Nation….God Bless

          • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

            God Bless you and hurry home. We need you.

          • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

            God Bless you and hurry home. We need you.

          • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

            God Bless you and hurry home. We need you.

          • irish8787

            I have been in living S. Korea for 9 yrs but if it goes off in the U.S. I will be there in a HEART BEAT

          • RLM357

            SEMPER FIDELIS ! ~Rick Magee, FL

          • RLM357

            SEMPER FIDELIS ! ~Rick Magee, FL

          • RLM357

            SEMPER FIDELIS ! ~Rick Magee, FL

          • NSSAWatchingEwe

            As an Iraq Vet, I’m in too.

          • sandman

            I am also a vet, though never was in any “action” but did qualify expert with all light weapons, and have kept sharp with .45cal ACP Colt, 30-06 Ithaca, and my beloved little Beaman Pellet rifle, yes pellet rifle, makes for good cheep, quite, legal practice anywhere! and can hit an aspirin at 30′ and 2lt Coke bottle at 200yrs every time with iron sights, I will be ready, and they will not know what hit them!

          • granny_for USA

            I would like to be like the “Shooter”…..make that shot at 1000yds The bad guys wouldn’t even see me. That thought gives me grand tingles.

          • http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.j.lavender Jonathan Lavender Jr

            i have 2 lethal pellet rifles, .177 caliber, one is lethal to 1600 yards, the other is almost twice that distance, by the time they hear the lead whistling, too late, they be hit, and i use ribbed pointed hunting pellets which are pretty accurate.

          • http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.j.lavender Jonathan Lavender Jr

            i have 2 lethal pellet rifles, .177 caliber, one is lethal to 1600 yards, the other is almost twice that distance, by the time they hear the lead whistling, too late, they be hit, and i use ribbed pointed hunting pellets which are pretty accurate.

          • http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.j.lavender Jonathan Lavender Jr

            i have 2 lethal pellet rifles, .177 caliber, one is lethal to 1600 yards, the other is almost twice that distance, by the time they hear the lead whistling, too late, they be hit, and i use ribbed pointed hunting pellets which are pretty accurate.

          • http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.j.lavender Jonathan Lavender Jr

            i have 2 lethal pellet rifles, .177 caliber, one is lethal to 1600 yards, the other is almost twice that distance, by the time they hear the lead whistling, too late, they be hit, and i use ribbed pointed hunting pellets which are pretty accurate.

          • granny_for USA

            I would like to be like the “Shooter”…..make that shot at 1000yds The bad guys wouldn’t even see me. That thought gives me grand tingles.

          • granny_for USA

            I would like to be like the “Shooter”…..make that shot at 1000yds The bad guys wouldn’t even see me. That thought gives me grand tingles.

          • granny_for USA

            I would like to be like the “Shooter”…..make that shot at 1000yds The bad guys wouldn’t even see me. That thought gives me grand tingles.

          • irish8787

            You Must Have Been In the Army, Because The U.S.M.C. Can Put A Round in A Flees ass at 500 Yards . But all are welome with me

          • irish8787

            You Must Have Been In the Army, Because The U.S.M.C. Can Put A Round in A Flees ass at 500 Yards . But all are welome with me

          • irish8787

            You Must Have Been In the Army, Because The U.S.M.C. Can Put A Round in A Flees ass at 500 Yards . But all are welome with me

          • sandman

            Semper Fi! Brother, but the DI told us it was not a round the leatherneck put in there!

          • irish8787

            You Must Have Been In the Army, Because The U.S.M.C. Can Put A Round in A Flees ass at 500 Yards . But all are welome with me

          • sandman

            I am also a vet, though never was in any “action” but did qualify expert with all light weapons, and have kept sharp with .45cal ACP Colt, 30-06 Ithaca, and my beloved little Beaman Pellet rifle, yes pellet rifle, makes for good cheep, quite, legal practice anywhere! and can hit an aspirin at 30′ and 2lt Coke bottle at 200yrs every time with iron sights, I will be ready, and they will not know what hit them!

          • NSSAWatchingEwe

            As an Iraq Vet, I’m in too.

          • Clint

            I am better at plugging holes than I am with weapons. I am still armed and will use them. When I was on active duty I served with a first aid kit and my wits, while depending on other guys for protection. I was a Corpsman in the 60′s and 70′s. Semper Fi.

          • sandman

            Semper Fi Robert! yes the Medical Corpsmen in any conflict was and will always be the most important friend anyone can have in time of need, as I would not be here if not for the Corpsman that saved my fathers live in WWII, he was (is) a Marine in S. Pacific from 1943-1945, in his stolen youth. Thank you for your service!

          • Clint

            I am better at plugging holes than I am with weapons. I am still armed and will use them. When I was on active duty I served with a first aid kit and my wits, while depending on other guys for protection. I was a Corpsman in the 60′s and 70′s. Semper Fi.

          • Clint

            I am better at plugging holes than I am with weapons. I am still armed and will use them. When I was on active duty I served with a first aid kit and my wits, while depending on other guys for protection. I was a Corpsman in the 60′s and 70′s. Semper Fi.

        • irish8787

          AS A VIET NAM VET COUNT ON ME TOO U.S.M.C. FOREVER

        • irish8787

          AS A VIET NAM VET COUNT ON ME TOO U.S.M.C. FOREVER

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1181395670 William Smith

          Pass the ammo. I’m a youngster, 50 years young, but broken. Can still shoot straight and true. USN & USCG Semper Paratus!! Bill Smith, IL

          • raccman

            God help us if the bastard asks Americans to KILL other Americans ! I’M SURE THAT NONE OF US OLD TIMERS WOULD EVER DO THAT ! not too sure about the “kids” !

          • raccman

            God help us if the bastard asks Americans to KILL other Americans ! I’M SURE THAT NONE OF US OLD TIMERS WOULD EVER DO THAT ! not too sure about the “kids” !

          • raccman

            God help us if the bastard asks Americans to KILL other Americans ! I’M SURE THAT NONE OF US OLD TIMERS WOULD EVER DO THAT ! not too sure about the “kids” !

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1181395670 William Smith

          Pass the ammo. I’m a youngster, 50 years young, but broken. Can still shoot straight and true. USN & USCG Semper Paratus!! Bill Smith, IL

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1181395670 William Smith

          Pass the ammo. I’m a youngster, 50 years young, but broken. Can still shoot straight and true. USN & USCG Semper Paratus!! Bill Smith, IL

      • raccman

        As a Korean war vet count me in too !

      • raccman

        As a Korean war vet count me in too !

      • irish8787

        We will eather Die all together or Die 1 by 1 I perfer to go together with ppl who FIGHT for FREEDOM

      • irish8787

        We will eather Die all together or Die 1 by 1 I perfer to go together with ppl who FIGHT for FREEDOM

      • irish8787

        We will eather Die all together or Die 1 by 1 I perfer to go together with ppl who FIGHT for FREEDOM

      • irish8787

        We will eather Die all together or Die 1 by 1 I perfer to go together with ppl who FIGHT for FREEDOM

      • http://www.capalert.com/ Medic01

        Mr. Sharp. Your courage and that of so many herein is immeasurable. May I find the same courage when the need comes.

        • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

          I think we all hope and pray that we too can find the courage and strength to do what is required of us. May God place his hand of protection around us.

        • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

          I think we all hope and pray that we too can find the courage and strength to do what is required of us. May God place his hand of protection around us.

        • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

          I think we all hope and pray that we too can find the courage and strength to do what is required of us. May God place his hand of protection around us.

      • irish8787

        All Of Us VET’S Will Be There With YOU

      • irish8787

        All Of Us VET’S Will Be There With YOU

      • Edward Doc Mahoney

        I just pray that when they come in the dead of night that I will be awake and able to take 10 with me.

      • Edward Doc Mahoney

        I just pray that when they come in the dead of night that I will be awake and able to take 10 with me.

      • Edward Doc Mahoney

        I just pray that when they come in the dead of night that I will be awake and able to take 10 with me.

      • YouDontUnderstandGuns

        No, it will be full of lead. Brass is the casing.

      • YouDontUnderstandGuns

        No, it will be full of lead. Brass is the casing.

      • YouDontUnderstandGuns

        No, it will be full of lead. Brass is the casing.

    • Thomas Sharp

      I will be there with you too.
      I may be found dead in a ditch, but it too will be full of spent brass.

    • Thomas Sharp

      I will be there with you too.
      I may be found dead in a ditch, but it too will be full of spent brass.

    • Thomas Sharp

      I will be there with you too.
      I may be found dead in a ditch, but it too will be full of spent brass.

    • dean29685

      Retired yes ex military yes disabled yes able to squeeze a trigger yes. priority’s: First to GOD, Second to family (including church family), Third to country. Country comes last as my country is leaving me, all the things I grew up believing in are now according to the government obsolete. While I believe in America it no longer believes in me.

    • dean29685

      Retired yes ex military yes disabled yes able to squeeze a trigger yes. priority’s: First to GOD, Second to family (including church family), Third to country. Country comes last as my country is leaving me, all the things I grew up believing in are now according to the government obsolete. While I believe in America it no longer believes in me.

      • Steve Harper

        America still believes in you, we just have some idiot’s at the helm right now but I think that will change shortly!

      • Steve Harper

        America still believes in you, we just have some idiot’s at the helm right now but I think that will change shortly!

      • irish8787

        Hi DEAN, Rember Oboma is not a American he is a Muslim and he Hates all of us .Most of all us VETS. Michael

      • irish8787

        Hi DEAN, Rember Oboma is not a American he is a Muslim and he Hates all of us .Most of all us VETS. Michael

        • hh

          Irish i am with all you guys..i still go to the range one or two times a month..i still remember…cant run like i did but at 68 if they come knocking they better bring lots of body bags…I took the oath like you all did and still stand by it….ooorah…Semper Fi.!!!!

        • hh

          Irish i am with all you guys..i still go to the range one or two times a month..i still remember…cant run like i did but at 68 if they come knocking they better bring lots of body bags…I took the oath like you all did and still stand by it….ooorah…Semper Fi.!!!!

        • hh

          Irish i am with all you guys..i still go to the range one or two times a month..i still remember…cant run like i did but at 68 if they come knocking they better bring lots of body bags…I took the oath like you all did and still stand by it….ooorah…Semper Fi.!!!!

        • hh

          Irish i am with all you guys..i still go to the range one or two times a month..i still remember…cant run like i did but at 68 if they come knocking they better bring lots of body bags…I took the oath like you all did and still stand by it….ooorah…Semper Fi.!!!!

      • irish8787

        Hi DEAN, Rember Oboma is not a American he is a Muslim and he Hates all of us .Most of all us VETS. Michael

      • granny_for USA

        Your country is “We The Legal People” and we have not left any of you ex-military. We may not say this to you, but it is so. Belief is that we will get rid of the muslim in the WH (along w/ all his cohorts) and solve all the problems. Thank you for all you have done. We love you all.

      • granny_for USA

        Your country is “We The Legal People” and we have not left any of you ex-military. We may not say this to you, but it is so. Belief is that we will get rid of the muslim in the WH (along w/ all his cohorts) and solve all the problems. Thank you for all you have done. We love you all.

      • granny_for USA

        Your country is “We The Legal People” and we have not left any of you ex-military. We may not say this to you, but it is so. Belief is that we will get rid of the muslim in the WH (along w/ all his cohorts) and solve all the problems. Thank you for all you have done. We love you all.

      • granny_for USA

        Your country is “We The Legal People” and we have not left any of you ex-military. We may not say this to you, but it is so. Belief is that we will get rid of the muslim in the WH (along w/ all his cohorts) and solve all the problems. Thank you for all you have done. We love you all.

    • dean29685

      Retired yes ex military yes disabled yes able to squeeze a trigger yes. priority’s: First to GOD, Second to family (including church family), Third to country. Country comes last as my country is leaving me, all the things I grew up believing in are now according to the government obsolete. While I believe in America it no longer believes in me.

    • dean29685

      Retired yes ex military yes disabled yes able to squeeze a trigger yes. priority’s: First to GOD, Second to family (including church family), Third to country. Country comes last as my country is leaving me, all the things I grew up believing in are now according to the government obsolete. While I believe in America it no longer believes in me.

    • Evermyrtle

      When he replaces all of the loyal American soldiers he will have a n armyof outlaws who like nothing better than to kill loyal Christian men, women and children. We have many, enemy of Americans, in the WH.

      • Socialism: Organized Evil

        No question. The democrat faction intends to impose a tyranny of the ignorant, manipulated by TV, enforced by mob rule, and couched as ‘democracy’.

        • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

          Just remember this, those Wylie Republicans are also involved up to their eyeballs.

        • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

          Just remember this, those Wylie Republicans are also involved up to their eyeballs.

        • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

          Just remember this, those Wylie Republicans are also involved up to their eyeballs.

        • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

          Just remember this, those Wylie Republicans are also involved up to their eyeballs.

    • Evermyrtle

      When he replaces all of the loyal American soldiers he will have a n armyof outlaws who like nothing better than to kill loyal Christian men, women and children. We have many, enemy of Americans, in the WH.

    • Evermyrtle

      When he replaces all of the loyal American soldiers he will have a n armyof outlaws who like nothing better than to kill loyal Christian men, women and children. We have many, enemy of Americans, in the WH.

    • Bob Miller

      Lots of full enbloc clips here; I’m in.

    • Steve Rogers

      I myself am in the same condition, old and broken-up body wise, but I will fight to the last for America that was! Death to the socialist-democrats and all commies!!!

    • Steve Rogers

      I myself am in the same condition, old and broken-up body wise, but I will fight to the last for America that was! Death to the socialist-democrats and all commies!!!

    • Steve Rogers

      I myself am in the same condition, old and broken-up body wise, but I will fight to the last for America that was! Death to the socialist-democrats and all commies!!!

    • Steve Rogers

      I myself am in the same condition, old and broken-up body wise, but I will fight to the last for America that was! Death to the socialist-democrats and all commies!!!

    • doug63

      and congress wonders why the bengazi whistleblowers won’t come forward. They will be (retired) just like our generals who won’t kiss barackula’s ass.

    • doug63

      and congress wonders why the bengazi whistleblowers won’t come forward. They will be (retired) just like our generals who won’t kiss barackula’s ass.

    • doug63

      and congress wonders why the bengazi whistleblowers won’t come forward. They will be (retired) just like our generals who won’t kiss barackula’s ass.

    • sovereigntyofone

      My friend, we will be ” the flea on the dogs back, that drives him crazy “.
      I like you I have seen my better days, and I know that the sands of life in the hour glass runs low. It was spirit just as much as brawn that freed this nation before.
      We will do what we can, and that will have to do. The younger, more fit will have to carry the load because it is ” their ” future and freedoms they will be fighting for. God bless

    • sovereigntyofone

      My friend, we will be ” the flea on the dogs back, that drives him crazy “.
      I like you I have seen my better days, and I know that the sands of life in the hour glass runs low. It was spirit just as much as brawn that freed this nation before.
      We will do what we can, and that will have to do. The younger, more fit will have to carry the load because it is ” their ” future and freedoms they will be fighting for. God bless

    • RLM357

      Me too! BUT…I am Many! ~Rick Magee, FL

    • RLM357

      Me too! BUT…I am Many! ~Rick Magee, FL

    • RLM357

      Me too! BUT…I am Many! ~Rick Magee, FL

    • RLM357

      Me too! BUT…I am Many! ~Rick Magee, FL

    • Socialism: Organized Evil

      Yes sir. All hands on deck.

    • http://www.capalert.com/ Medic01

      I am proud of you, marine2ominer! May our Lord give you the strength and courage to do His perfect will.

    • http://www.capalert.com/ Medic01

      I am proud of you, marine2ominer! May our Lord give you the strength and courage to do His perfect will.

    • http://www.capalert.com/ Medic01

      I am proud of you, marine2ominer! May our Lord give you the strength and courage to do His perfect will.

    • 7papa7

      I am pushing 70. I am a Nam vet who fought for my country 1000′s of miles away. If the idiots in DC don’t think I will fight for my country on American soil, they are sadly mistaken. I took an oath to defend America against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic. I just never dreamed back in the early 60′s that I may have to fight a tyrannical domestic government. So be it. My country is more important than I am. I have children and grandchildren and I want them to grow up in a free country like I had the privilege of doing.

      • dancin’bear

        I’m with you, 7papa7. “Nam vet and NEVER thought I would face this crap again. Hooah!

        • 7papa7

          Like Nam, we will do what we need to do.

        • 7papa7

          Like Nam, we will do what we need to do.

          • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

            Only this time your hands will not be tied behind your back as has been the case in so many wars . Even as we speak.

          • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

            Only this time your hands will not be tied behind your back as has been the case in so many wars . Even as we speak.

          • 7papa7

            Absolutely right, I will only answer to God and not some idiot politicians. We will fight to the end and we will fight for as long as it takes. This could potentially end up being the longest war in history because the real patriots will not stop until we can declare victory, absolute victory.

          • Ed Williams

            Indeed, the Rules of Engagement will make more sense next time…

          • 7papa7

            Absolutely, their are no rules of engagement now. Waiting to be fired on before returning is not rules of engagement it is self defense. The object of war is one thing to win, never to come in second. This administration totally accepts losing.

          • 7papa7

            Absolutely, their are no rules of engagement now. Waiting to be fired on before returning is not rules of engagement it is self defense. The object of war is one thing to win, never to come in second. This administration totally accepts losing.

          • 7papa7

            Absolutely, their are no rules of engagement now. Waiting to be fired on before returning is not rules of engagement it is self defense. The object of war is one thing to win, never to come in second. This administration totally accepts losing.

          • Ed Williams

            Indeed, the Rules of Engagement will make more sense next time…

          • Ed Williams

            Indeed, the Rules of Engagement will make more sense next time…

          • Ed Williams

            Indeed, the Rules of Engagement will make more sense next time…

          • 7papa7

            Absolutely right, I will only answer to God and not some idiot politicians. We will fight to the end and we will fight for as long as it takes. This could potentially end up being the longest war in history because the real patriots will not stop until we can declare victory, absolute victory.

          • 7papa7

            Absolutely right, I will only answer to God and not some idiot politicians. We will fight to the end and we will fight for as long as it takes. This could potentially end up being the longest war in history because the real patriots will not stop until we can declare victory, absolute victory.

          • 7papa7

            Absolutely right, I will only answer to God and not some idiot politicians. We will fight to the end and we will fight for as long as it takes. This could potentially end up being the longest war in history because the real patriots will not stop until we can declare victory, absolute victory.

        • 7papa7

          Like Nam, we will do what we need to do.

        • 7papa7

          Like Nam, we will do what we need to do.

      • dancin’bear

        I’m with you, 7papa7. “Nam vet and NEVER thought I would face this crap again. Hooah!

      • dancin’bear

        I’m with you, 7papa7. “Nam vet and NEVER thought I would face this crap again. Hooah!

    • 7papa7

      I am pushing 70. I am a Nam vet who fought for my country 1000′s of miles away. If the idiots in DC don’t think I will fight for my country on American soil, they are sadly mistaken. I took an oath to defend America against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic. I just never dreamed back in the early 60′s that I may have to fight a tyrannical domestic government. So be it. My country is more important than I am. I have children and grandchildren and I want them to grow up in a free country like I had the privilege of doing.

    • 7papa7

      I am pushing 70. I am a Nam vet who fought for my country 1000′s of miles away. If the idiots in DC don’t think I will fight for my country on American soil, they are sadly mistaken. I took an oath to defend America against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic. I just never dreamed back in the early 60′s that I may have to fight a tyrannical domestic government. So be it. My country is more important than I am. I have children and grandchildren and I want them to grow up in a free country like I had the privilege of doing.

    • 7papa7

      I am pushing 70. I am a Nam vet who fought for my country 1000′s of miles away. If the idiots in DC don’t think I will fight for my country on American soil, they are sadly mistaken. I took an oath to defend America against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic. I just never dreamed back in the early 60′s that I may have to fight a tyrannical domestic government. So be it. My country is more important than I am. I have children and grandchildren and I want them to grow up in a free country like I had the privilege of doing.

    • irish8787

      Hi , You Are Never To Old To Pull A Trigger

    • irish8787

      Hi , You Are Never To Old To Pull A Trigger

    • irish8787

      Hi , You Are Never To Old To Pull A Trigger

    • irish8787

      Hi , You Are Never To Old To Pull A Trigger

    • irish8787

      We Will Put you on a M- 60

    • irish8787

      We Will Put you on a M- 60

    • irish8787

      We Will Put you on a M- 60

    • irish8787

      We Will Put you on a M- 60

    • douber1

      the guy behind odumbo is george soros the puppet master
      and jewish traitor

    • douber1

      the guy behind odumbo is george soros the puppet master
      and jewish traitor

    • douber1

      the guy behind odumbo is george soros the puppet master
      and jewish traitor

    • douber1

      the guy behind odumbo is george soros the puppet master
      and jewish traitor

    • newyorker

      GREAT ANSWER JARHEAD. BRAVO !

    • newyorker

      GREAT ANSWER JARHEAD. BRAVO !

    • newyorker

      GREAT ANSWER JARHEAD. BRAVO !

    • newyorker

      GREAT ANSWER JARHEAD. BRAVO !

    • slickzip

      AMEN we can defeat ODUMBAS brown shirt army ,,,

    • slickzip

      AMEN we can defeat ODUMBAS brown shirt army ,,,

    • slickzip

      AMEN we can defeat ODUMBAS brown shirt army ,,,

    • http://www.facebook.com/bert.adelsberg Bert Adelsberg

      I will Defend my Constitution to the best of my ability..I have lost my strength to some extent..Still can fire a weapon (as soon as I purchase one) to defend myself against this tyrannical socialist, Marxist, Communistic form of government that panders to Islamic Terrorists..

    • http://www.facebook.com/bert.adelsberg Bert Adelsberg

      I will Defend my Constitution to the best of my ability..I have lost my strength to some extent..Still can fire a weapon (as soon as I purchase one) to defend myself against this tyrannical socialist, Marxist, Communistic form of government that panders to Islamic Terrorists..

    • http://www.facebook.com/bert.adelsberg Bert Adelsberg

      I will Defend my Constitution to the best of my ability..I have lost my strength to some extent..Still can fire a weapon (as soon as I purchase one) to defend myself against this tyrannical socialist, Marxist, Communistic form of government that panders to Islamic Terrorists..

    • Average Joe

      Once A Marine ALWAYS A Marine Semper Fi.

    • Average Joe

      Once A Marine ALWAYS A Marine Semper Fi.

    • Average Joe

      Once A Marine ALWAYS A Marine Semper Fi.

    • Average Joe

      Once A Marine ALWAYS A Marine Semper Fi.

    • RW

      I too will resist. I’m not a veteran but I’m a patriot.

    • RW

      I too will resist. I’m not a veteran but I’m a patriot.

    • texaninsouthfl

      It’s interesting that you bring up age… I’m 54 and most of my like-minded friends are as old or older… and we all express the same feeling expressed here. It seems that more and more of us are coming to the conclusion that the country is passed saving at the ballot box… if you get my drift. As I said before… this thinking, and willingness to die to retake our country seems to be mostly coming from us “old guys.” It is for this reason I’ve come to think that maybe someday, when it’s all over, historians will come to call it the “Gray Revolution.” … in reference to all us old, gray-haired guys.

    • texaninsouthfl

      It’s interesting that you bring up age… I’m 54 and most of my like-minded friends are as old or older… and we all express the same feeling expressed here. It seems that more and more of us are coming to the conclusion that the country is passed saving at the ballot box… if you get my drift. As I said before… this thinking, and willingness to die to retake our country seems to be mostly coming from us “old guys.” It is for this reason I’ve come to think that maybe someday, when it’s all over, historians will come to call it the “Gray Revolution.” … in reference to all us old, gray-haired guys.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Higginbotham/100000261072379 Bob Higginbotham

      You are not alone. There are many, myself included that will not be bullied by a Marxist coward. The question is will troops fire on civilians as they did in 1932 in Washington at the so-called “bonus Army” who rightfully wanted what they were promised. While in uniform (USMC 4 years) I know I would have to think long and hard before I fired on another U.S. Citizen. With Obama’s private army that may not be the case today.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Higginbotham/100000261072379 Bob Higginbotham

      You are not alone. There are many, myself included that will not be bullied by a Marxist coward. The question is will troops fire on civilians as they did in 1932 in Washington at the so-called “bonus Army” who rightfully wanted what they were promised. While in uniform (USMC 4 years) I know I would have to think long and hard before I fired on another U.S. Citizen. With Obama’s private army that may not be the case today.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Higginbotham/100000261072379 Bob Higginbotham

      You are not alone. There are many, myself included that will not be bullied by a Marxist coward. The question is will troops fire on civilians as they did in 1932 in Washington at the so-called “bonus Army” who rightfully wanted what they were promised. While in uniform (USMC 4 years) I know I would have to think long and hard before I fired on another U.S. Citizen. With Obama’s private army that may not be the case today.

    • sickpuppy70454

      Locked and loaded. They may take me out, but there will be a lot less leaving than showed up.

    • sickpuppy70454

      Locked and loaded. They may take me out, but there will be a lot less leaving than showed up.

    • sickpuppy70454

      Locked and loaded. They may take me out, but there will be a lot less leaving than showed up.

    • sickpuppy70454

      Locked and loaded. They may take me out, but there will be a lot less leaving than showed up.

    • erehwon

      One advantage of having a motorized wheelchair, as I do, is that I can pack a lot more mags in my lap or slung over my headrest.

      Molon Labe!

    • erehwon

      One advantage of having a motorized wheelchair, as I do, is that I can pack a lot more mags in my lap or slung over my headrest.

      Molon Labe!

    • erehwon

      One advantage of having a motorized wheelchair, as I do, is that I can pack a lot more mags in my lap or slung over my headrest.

      Molon Labe!

    • erehwon

      One advantage of having a motorized wheelchair, as I do, is that I can pack a lot more mags in my lap or slung over my headrest.

      Molon Labe!

    • Yoikes

      Resistance is NOT futile!

    • Yoikes

      Resistance is NOT futile!

    • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

      Obama and those who placed him into power
      are will and able to murder anyone who stands
      in their way.

    • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

      Obama and those who placed him into power
      are will and able to murder anyone who stands
      in their way.

    • Jo Jo

      If “your government” is not operating within the bounds of the Constitution then they are operating as criminals and are no longer “your government” but “your tyranny” and need to be eradicated.

      The Four R’s: Rejection, Revolution, Retribution, Restoration

      Reject them, the criminal pols, crats and banksters; Revolt against them; Retribute them; and Restore the Constitutional republic

    • Jo Jo

      If “your government” is not operating within the bounds of the Constitution then they are operating as criminals and are no longer “your government” but “your tyranny” and need to be eradicated.

      The Four R’s: Rejection, Revolution, Retribution, Restoration

      Reject them, the criminal pols, crats and banksters; Revolt against them; Retribute them; and Restore the Constitutional republic

    • Jo Jo

      If “your government” is not operating within the bounds of the Constitution then they are operating as criminals and are no longer “your government” but “your tyranny” and need to be eradicated.

      The Four R’s: Rejection, Revolution, Retribution, Restoration

      Reject them, the criminal pols, crats and banksters; Revolt against them; Retribute them; and Restore the Constitutional republic

    • Jo Jo

      If “your government” is not operating within the bounds of the Constitution then they are operating as criminals and are no longer “your government” but “your tyranny” and need to be eradicated.

      The Four R’s: Rejection, Revolution, Retribution, Restoration

      Reject them, the criminal pols, crats and banksters; Revolt against them; Retribute them; and Restore the Constitutional republic

    • usmcmailman

      You will NOT be alone my Marine Brother! I am disabled too ! I am also
      armed and ready!

    • Igor

      The fourth box has not been opened yet. Soon, though, very very soon, especially in light of the current events.

      May I remind all you readers that the very people who would shoot their fellow Americans have family and also have a home to go to each and every night. Let’s make them so paranoid that all they will be doing is protecting their own instead of shooting US. And remember, there’s one heckuva lot of Americans that have guns and KNOW how to use them. Look at the response of ONE man in Kalifornia and TWO men (boys) in Taxachusetts and what effect it had in bringing to bear the outpouring of armed response from local, state, and national (DHS) organizations. Now, imagine a few dozen hunters with rifles dialed in and the responders get sucked into one spot. Finally, realize that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HEAD ARMOR, and, additionally, a FMJ rifle round goes through body armor like swiss cheese.

      Just imagine. Just 3 percent. Just sayin’.
      Semper Fidelis.

    • Igor

      The fourth box has not been opened yet. Soon, though, very very soon, especially in light of the current events.

      May I remind all you readers that the very people who would shoot their fellow Americans have family and also have a home to go to each and every night. Let’s make them so paranoid that all they will be doing is protecting their own instead of shooting US. And remember, there’s one heckuva lot of Americans that have guns and KNOW how to use them. Look at the response of ONE man in Kalifornia and TWO men (boys) in Taxachusetts and what effect it had in bringing to bear the outpouring of armed response from local, state, and national (DHS) organizations. Now, imagine a few dozen hunters with rifles dialed in and the responders get sucked into one spot. Finally, realize that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HEAD ARMOR, and, additionally, a FMJ rifle round goes through body armor like swiss cheese.

      Just imagine. Just 3 percent. Just sayin’.
      Semper Fidelis.

    • hijinx60

      I am in the same boat as marinehd2ominer, but my eyes are still good (thanks to cataract surgery) and I keep my trigger finger flexible.

    • hijinx60

      I am in the same boat as marinehd2ominer, but my eyes are still good (thanks to cataract surgery) and I keep my trigger finger flexible.

    • hijinx60

      I am in the same boat as marinehd2ominer, but my eyes are still good (thanks to cataract surgery) and I keep my trigger finger flexible.

  • marineh2ominer

    I am aware that Obam ass has fired or forced into retirement at least twenty high level military staff that gave him the wrong ,( in his view ) answer on the question , would you fire on American citizens . I am not going to attack my government but I am not going to go along with their unconstitutional tyranny , I will resist , it will probably be futile because I am not in any group , I am over the hill ,and I am even crippled , but I will resist .

  • marineh2ominer

    I am aware that Obam ass has fired or forced into retirement at least twenty high level military staff that gave him the wrong ,( in his view ) answer on the question , would you fire on American citizens . I am not going to attack my government but I am not going to go along with their unconstitutional tyranny , I will resist , it will probably be futile because I am not in any group , I am over the hill ,and I am even crippled , but I will resist .

  • http://nyctalking.com/ Angel Rodriguez

    At this point, we sit and wait. Nothing else we can do.

    • Charlie

      We sit and wait. And train in all killing skills. Plus any other training that might prove useful.

    • Charlie

      We sit and wait. And train in all killing skills. Plus any other training that might prove useful.

    • Charlie

      We sit and wait. And train in all killing skills. Plus any other training that might prove useful.

  • http://nyctalking.com/ Angel Rodriguez

    At this point, we sit and wait. Nothing else we can do.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Allan-Erickson/1105852120 Allan Erickson

    When civilians join law enforcement and military personnel in a non-violent strike, demanding the government submit to the authority of the people, we will see the kind of change required to both save the country and avoid a blood bath. If gov’t fires upon non-violent demonstrators, in that moment, gov’t will lose all moral authority.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Allan-Erickson/1105852120 Allan Erickson

    When civilians join law enforcement and military personnel in a non-violent strike, demanding the government submit to the authority of the people, we will see the kind of change required to both save the country and avoid a blood bath. If gov’t fires upon non-violent demonstrators, in that moment, gov’t will lose all moral authority.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Allan-Erickson/1105852120 Allan Erickson

    When civilians join law enforcement and military personnel in a non-violent strike, demanding the government submit to the authority of the people, we will see the kind of change required to both save the country and avoid a blood bath. If gov’t fires upon non-violent demonstrators, in that moment, gov’t will lose all moral authority.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Allan-Erickson/1105852120 Allan Erickson

    When civilians join law enforcement and military personnel in a non-violent strike, demanding the government submit to the authority of the people, we will see the kind of change required to both save the country and avoid a blood bath. If gov’t fires upon non-violent demonstrators, in that moment, gov’t will lose all moral authority.

  • fliteking

    Article: “Will American Soldiers Fire on U.S. Citizens?”

    You betcha. Don’t be one of the trusting fools that thinks otherwise.

    An old vet.

    • $6286490

      I agree, many will, many won’t.

    • $6286490

      I agree, many will, many won’t.

      • redwolf6911

        There are lots and lots of very rural areas in this country with a very well armed population.. Many of those areas are mountainous and wooded. I know a lot of those places very well since over many years I have lived near those areas.

      • redwolf6911

        There are lots and lots of very rural areas in this country with a very well armed population.. Many of those areas are mountainous and wooded. I know a lot of those places very well since over many years I have lived near those areas.

      • redwolf6911

        There are lots and lots of very rural areas in this country with a very well armed population.. Many of those areas are mountainous and wooded. I know a lot of those places very well since over many years I have lived near those areas.

      • redwolf6911

        There are lots and lots of very rural areas in this country with a very well armed population.. Many of those areas are mountainous and wooded. I know a lot of those places very well since over many years I have lived near those areas.

    • $6286490

      I agree, many will, many won’t.

    • $6286490

      I agree, many will, many won’t.

    • MrKamikaze

      I will respectfully disagree with you.
      A middle aged ARMY vet.

      • fliteking

        I’d be happier if you are right, but given the “grooming” that has gone on at the top by Ob*ma , and the military involvement in Katrina there is enough to convince me that Citizens will be secondary.

        • MrKamikaze

          You forget that the very citizens that these soldiers will be fireing on will be their Family,Friends and neighbors. Soldiers are not mindless automatons.

    • MrKamikaze

      I will respectfully disagree with you.
      A middle aged ARMY vet.

    • 9Spoon9

      “Survey says” – About 15-20% will initially without any forethought as a reaction to training. Where it goes from there is anyone’s guess. Could be less when facing the reality of what and who they killed or could wildly increase out of nothing more than their own security. It’s the youngest that are apt to follow these unlawful commands since many don’t have life experiences and or their own spouse and child(ren) to be concerned with. No crystal ball can accurately predict what will transpire…until it does.

    • 9Spoon9

      “Survey says” – About 15-20% will initially without any forethought as a reaction to training. Where it goes from there is anyone’s guess. Could be less when facing the reality of what and who they killed or could wildly increase out of nothing more than their own security. It’s the youngest that are apt to follow these unlawful commands since many don’t have life experiences and or their own spouse and child(ren) to be concerned with. No crystal ball can accurately predict what will transpire…until it does.

    • 9Spoon9

      “Survey says” – About 15-20% will initially without any forethought as a reaction to training. Where it goes from there is anyone’s guess. Could be less when facing the reality of what and who they killed or could wildly increase out of nothing more than their own security. It’s the youngest that are apt to follow these unlawful commands since many don’t have life experiences and or their own spouse and child(ren) to be concerned with. No crystal ball can accurately predict what will transpire…until it does.

    • 9Spoon9

      “Survey says” – About 15-20% will initially without any forethought as a reaction to training. Where it goes from there is anyone’s guess. Could be less when facing the reality of what and who they killed or could wildly increase out of nothing more than their own security. It’s the youngest that are apt to follow these unlawful commands since many don’t have life experiences and or their own spouse and child(ren) to be concerned with. No crystal ball can accurately predict what will transpire…until it does.

    • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

      Another middle/old vet, and I disagree also. This is not the same military that Lincoln commanded. Some point to post-Katrina New Orleans as evidence that confiscations will happen. That was a horrid event, but it was also a catalyst that solidified resolve that it never happen again and proved the anti-gunner argument absolutely wrong forever – “but nobody is trying to take your guns because it’s never happened.” It has now, Bloomberg, Brady, Feinstein, Schumer, et al. Even then, there were many reports from troops there (mostly National Guard and non-NOLA LEOs) who refused to participate in any such confiscations.

      My assumption is that the military will refuse to follow an unconstitutional order to confiscate weapons in violation of the Second and Fourth Amendments. Should they try, my first response will be to attempt to reason with them and explain why what they are doing violates their oath of enlistment or commissioning. If that fails, which I sincerely doubt it will, then my name will be on the eventual list of patriots who did all they could to preserve the Constitution for future generations, a list I will not live to see but which my daughter will.
      With pride.

    • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

      Another middle/old vet, and I disagree also. This is not the same military that Lincoln commanded. Some point to post-Katrina New Orleans as evidence that confiscations will happen. That was a horrid event, but it was also a catalyst that solidified resolve that it never happen again and proved the anti-gunner argument absolutely wrong forever – “but nobody is trying to take your guns because it’s never happened.” It has now, Bloomberg, Brady, Feinstein, Schumer, et al. Even then, there were many reports from troops there (mostly National Guard and non-NOLA LEOs) who refused to participate in any such confiscations.

      My assumption is that the military will refuse to follow an unconstitutional order to confiscate weapons in violation of the Second and Fourth Amendments. Should they try, my first response will be to attempt to reason with them and explain why what they are doing violates their oath of enlistment or commissioning. If that fails, which I sincerely doubt it will, then my name will be on the eventual list of patriots who did all they could to preserve the Constitution for future generations, a list I will not live to see but which my daughter will.
      With pride.

    • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

      Another middle/old vet, and I disagree also. This is not the same military that Lincoln commanded. Some point to post-Katrina New Orleans as evidence that confiscations will happen. That was a horrid event, but it was also a catalyst that solidified resolve that it never happen again and proved the anti-gunner argument absolutely wrong forever – “but nobody is trying to take your guns because it’s never happened.” It has now, Bloomberg, Brady, Feinstein, Schumer, et al. Even then, there were many reports from troops there (mostly National Guard and non-NOLA LEOs) who refused to participate in any such confiscations.

      My assumption is that the military will refuse to follow an unconstitutional order to confiscate weapons in violation of the Second and Fourth Amendments. Should they try, my first response will be to attempt to reason with them and explain why what they are doing violates their oath of enlistment or commissioning. If that fails, which I sincerely doubt it will, then my name will be on the eventual list of patriots who did all they could to preserve the Constitution for future generations, a list I will not live to see but which my daughter will.
      With pride.

    • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

      Another middle/old vet, and I disagree also. This is not the same military that Lincoln commanded. Some point to post-Katrina New Orleans as evidence that confiscations will happen. That was a horrid event, but it was also a catalyst that solidified resolve that it never happen again and proved the anti-gunner argument absolutely wrong forever – “but nobody is trying to take your guns because it’s never happened.” It has now, Bloomberg, Brady, Feinstein, Schumer, et al. Even then, there were many reports from troops there (mostly National Guard and non-NOLA LEOs) who refused to participate in any such confiscations.

      My assumption is that the military will refuse to follow an unconstitutional order to confiscate weapons in violation of the Second and Fourth Amendments. Should they try, my first response will be to attempt to reason with them and explain why what they are doing violates their oath of enlistment or commissioning. If that fails, which I sincerely doubt it will, then my name will be on the eventual list of patriots who did all they could to preserve the Constitution for future generations, a list I will not live to see but which my daughter will.
      With pride.

  • fliteking

    Article: “Will American Soldiers Fire on U.S. Citizens?”

    You betcha. Don’t be one of the trusting fools that thinks otherwise.

    An old vet.

  • 1Big_Bill2

    Hey ” marineh2ominer and Tom” I am similar to you, however I can still hold Ten Pounds to my shoulder and squeeze a trigger. Possibly from a wheelchair or from a prone position. American Military will never go against the American People therefore fear not, obama and czars, be very concerned .

  • 1Big_Bill2

    Hey ” marineh2ominer and Tom” I am similar to you, however I can still hold Ten Pounds to my shoulder and squeeze a trigger. Possibly from a wheelchair or from a prone position. American Military will never go against the American People therefore fear not, obama and czars, be very concerned .

    • Alfred Ferguson

      Heartened by your encouraging words. However, I do “fear” still. For there is nothing this president from Kenya will not do. Nothing. He is a (polished) thug in power–educated, articulate, unscrupulous, a cannibal chief in well-dressed, tasteful drag–and many are the liberals who back him.

      Yes, yes–I know: when he speaks he sounds like a carnival barker at a cheap “come on in!” sideshow.

      But look at those who go in. Just look at ‘em. Jaws agape, sucking it all in, even as they suck up their cotton candy: no nourishment and it rots their (remaining) few teeth. But they like it. They love it. Can’t get enough of . . .him.

    • Alfred Ferguson

      Heartened by your encouraging words. However, I do “fear” still. For there is nothing this president from Kenya will not do. Nothing. He is a (polished) thug in power–educated, articulate, unscrupulous, a cannibal chief in well-dressed, tasteful drag–and many are the liberals who back him.

      Yes, yes–I know: when he speaks he sounds like a carnival barker at a cheap “come on in!” sideshow.

      But look at those who go in. Just look at ‘em. Jaws agape, sucking it all in, even as they suck up their cotton candy: no nourishment and it rots their (remaining) few teeth. But they like it. They love it. Can’t get enough of . . .him.

    • Alfred Ferguson

      Heartened by your encouraging words. However, I do “fear” still. For there is nothing this president from Kenya will not do. Nothing. He is a (polished) thug in power–educated, articulate, unscrupulous, a cannibal chief in well-dressed, tasteful drag–and many are the liberals who back him.

      Yes, yes–I know: when he speaks he sounds like a carnival barker at a cheap “come on in!” sideshow.

      But look at those who go in. Just look at ‘em. Jaws agape, sucking it all in, even as they suck up their cotton candy: no nourishment and it rots their (remaining) few teeth. But they like it. They love it. Can’t get enough of . . .him.

    • Alfred Ferguson

      Heartened by your encouraging words. However, I do “fear” still. For there is nothing this president from Kenya will not do. Nothing. He is a (polished) thug in power–educated, articulate, unscrupulous, a cannibal chief in well-dressed, tasteful drag–and many are the liberals who back him.

      Yes, yes–I know: when he speaks he sounds like a carnival barker at a cheap “come on in!” sideshow.

      But look at those who go in. Just look at ‘em. Jaws agape, sucking it all in, even as they suck up their cotton candy: no nourishment and it rots their (remaining) few teeth. But they like it. They love it. Can’t get enough of . . .him.

    • HenryA

      William, I agree with you but like to add that I think obama fears even his DHS because I know for a fact that there are many in the DHS that will turn on him and will also be with the people.

    • HenryA

      William, I agree with you but like to add that I think obama fears even his DHS because I know for a fact that there are many in the DHS that will turn on him and will also be with the people.

  • 1Big_Bill2

    Hey ” marineh2ominer and Tom” I am similar to you, however I can still hold Ten Pounds to my shoulder and squeeze a trigger. Possibly from a wheelchair or from a prone position. American Military will never go against the American People therefore fear not, obama and czars, be very concerned .

  • 1Big_Bill2

    Hey ” marineh2ominer and Tom” I am similar to you, however I can still hold Ten Pounds to my shoulder and squeeze a trigger. Possibly from a wheelchair or from a prone position. American Military will never go against the American People therefore fear not, obama and czars, be very concerned .

  • Johnny

    Obama doesn’t have knowledge are skills to be President of the United States. Yes he has or had a law degree and spent one year as a Illinois State Representative and he didn’t stay there long enough to learn anything there. He has surrounded himself with people that also have no knowledge or skills to run this Country. It is morons like him that turned me away form the democratic Party. Hell I voted Peanut head Jimmy Carter because I was a democrat, Big mistake. When Ronald Regan ran I switched to the Republican party, Then voted for both Bushes because I believed they were the least of the two evils that were running on the Democratic ticket. Bill skirt chaser Clinton and wife Hillary were involved in a a land fraud deal in Arkansas, So I didn’t trust him enough to vote him into office, Now I consider myself neither Republican or Democrat I am a Conservative. I don’t trust none of the democratic members in Washington, and I don’t trust a lot of Republicans. They have all become self servant, and goes along with what the Party wants to do regardless if it is good or bad for the Citizens they suppose to serve. They go to Washington from $100.000.00 to $200.000.00 dollars a year salaries and not long after being in Office they become Millionaires. Now tell me how that is possible. Seems to me a lot of them are getting their pockets lined by special interest groups. It is time for a change if this Country is to survive.

  • Johnny

    Obama doesn’t have knowledge are skills to be President of the United States. Yes he has or had a law degree and spent one year as a Illinois State Representative and he didn’t stay there long enough to learn anything there. He has surrounded himself with people that also have no knowledge or skills to run this Country. It is morons like him that turned me away form the democratic Party. Hell I voted Peanut head Jimmy Carter because I was a democrat, Big mistake. When Ronald Regan ran I switched to the Republican party, Then voted for both Bushes because I believed they were the least of the two evils that were running on the Democratic ticket. Bill skirt chaser Clinton and wife Hillary were involved in a a land fraud deal in Arkansas, So I didn’t trust him enough to vote him into office, Now I consider myself neither Republican or Democrat I am a Conservative. I don’t trust none of the democratic members in Washington, and I don’t trust a lot of Republicans. They have all become self servant, and goes along with what the Party wants to do regardless if it is good or bad for the Citizens they suppose to serve. They go to Washington from $100.000.00 to $200.000.00 dollars a year salaries and not long after being in Office they become Millionaires. Now tell me how that is possible. Seems to me a lot of them are getting their pockets lined by special interest groups. It is time for a change if this Country is to survive.

  • Johnny

    Obama doesn’t have knowledge are skills to be President of the United States. Yes he has or had a law degree and spent one year as a Illinois State Representative and he didn’t stay there long enough to learn anything there. He has surrounded himself with people that also have no knowledge or skills to run this Country. It is morons like him that turned me away form the democratic Party. Hell I voted Peanut head Jimmy Carter because I was a democrat, Big mistake. When Ronald Regan ran I switched to the Republican party, Then voted for both Bushes because I believed they were the least of the two evils that were running on the Democratic ticket. Bill skirt chaser Clinton and wife Hillary were involved in a a land fraud deal in Arkansas, So I didn’t trust him enough to vote him into office, Now I consider myself neither Republican or Democrat I am a Conservative. I don’t trust none of the democratic members in Washington, and I don’t trust a lot of Republicans. They have all become self servant, and goes along with what the Party wants to do regardless if it is good or bad for the Citizens they suppose to serve. They go to Washington from $100.000.00 to $200.000.00 dollars a year salaries and not long after being in Office they become Millionaires. Now tell me how that is possible. Seems to me a lot of them are getting their pockets lined by special interest groups. It is time for a change if this Country is to survive.

  • Johnny

    Obama doesn’t have knowledge are skills to be President of the United States. Yes he has or had a law degree and spent one year as a Illinois State Representative and he didn’t stay there long enough to learn anything there. He has surrounded himself with people that also have no knowledge or skills to run this Country. It is morons like him that turned me away form the democratic Party. Hell I voted Peanut head Jimmy Carter because I was a democrat, Big mistake. When Ronald Regan ran I switched to the Republican party, Then voted for both Bushes because I believed they were the least of the two evils that were running on the Democratic ticket. Bill skirt chaser Clinton and wife Hillary were involved in a a land fraud deal in Arkansas, So I didn’t trust him enough to vote him into office, Now I consider myself neither Republican or Democrat I am a Conservative. I don’t trust none of the democratic members in Washington, and I don’t trust a lot of Republicans. They have all become self servant, and goes along with what the Party wants to do regardless if it is good or bad for the Citizens they suppose to serve. They go to Washington from $100.000.00 to $200.000.00 dollars a year salaries and not long after being in Office they become Millionaires. Now tell me how that is possible. Seems to me a lot of them are getting their pockets lined by special interest groups. It is time for a change if this Country is to survive.

  • mperkins2

    Obama will not need the military to fire on us because he is building his civilian security force. That is why they have all of the ammo. It arms them and disarms us. You don’t have to believe me just listen to his own words.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

    • Researcher

      Doesn’t this describe the Gestapo, a political police force that answers only to the leader of a political party.

      • ThomPaineJr12

        Doesn’t this describe idiotic, rightwing paranoia?

      • ThomPaineJr12

        Doesn’t this describe idiotic, rightwing paranoia?

      • ThomPaineJr12

        Doesn’t this describe idiotic, rightwing paranoia?

      • ThomPaineJr12

        Doesn’t this describe idiotic, rightwing paranoia?

    • ThomPaineJr12

      Where are they training?

      • garysvent

        They don’t think they need any more training than Obama thought he needed training to be President. They’re incompetent.

      • garysvent

        They don’t think they need any more training than Obama thought he needed training to be President. They’re incompetent.

      • garysvent

        They don’t think they need any more training than Obama thought he needed training to be President. They’re incompetent.

      • garysvent

        They don’t think they need any more training than Obama thought he needed training to be President. They’re incompetent.

    • ThomPaineJr12

      Where are they training?

    • ThomPaineJr12

      Where are they training?

    • ThomPaineJr12

      Where are they training?

  • mperkins2

    Obama will not need the military to fire on us because he is building his civilian security force. That is why they have all of the ammo. It arms them and disarms us. You don’t have to believe me just listen to his own words.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

  • Echo Moon

    i am am, i guess you would call me a liberal? i consider myself “,middle of the road” where politics are concerned. i like some repub ideas and i like some dem ideas. i am female, i am not christian. but i will join you in the ditch with my gun loaded….

  • Echo Moon

    i am am, i guess you would call me a liberal? i consider myself “,middle of the road” where politics are concerned. i like some repub ideas and i like some dem ideas. i am female, i am not christian. but i will join you in the ditch with my gun loaded….

    • upsidedownjack

      Welcome to the Fight for Freedom!

    • upsidedownjack

      Welcome to the Fight for Freedom!

    • upsidedownjack

      Welcome to the Fight for Freedom!

    • Ed Williams

      You’re smart for a girl. I know, but it was just too easy. Anyway, welcome aboard.

    • Ed Williams

      You’re smart for a girl. I know, but it was just too easy. Anyway, welcome aboard.

  • Echo Moon

    i am am, i guess you would call me a liberal? i consider myself “,middle of the road” where politics are concerned. i like some repub ideas and i like some dem ideas. i am female, i am not christian. but i will join you in the ditch with my gun loaded….

  • Echo Moon

    i am am, i guess you would call me a liberal? i consider myself “,middle of the road” where politics are concerned. i like some repub ideas and i like some dem ideas. i am female, i am not christian. but i will join you in the ditch with my gun loaded….

  • pslinger

    3% of 300 million is 9 million. 9 million armed patriots is nothing to sneeze at. Consider a scenario where patriotic forces in our own military staged a coup, and called for help from the citizenry in the process. Many LEOs would likely join as well. IMHO DHS would not be able to stand against us.

  • pslinger

    3% of 300 million is 9 million. 9 million armed patriots is nothing to sneeze at. Consider a scenario where patriotic forces in our own military staged a coup, and called for help from the citizenry in the process. Many LEOs would likely join as well. IMHO DHS would not be able to stand against us.

    • Billy Hill

      Closer to 10-15%.The invisible militia.Think an army of 30-45 million.

      • pslinger

        Even better. From your lips to God’s ears.

      • pslinger

        Even better. From your lips to God’s ears.

      • pslinger

        Even better. From your lips to God’s ears.

      • pslinger

        Even better. From your lips to God’s ears.

    • Billy Hill

      Closer to 10-15%.The invisible militia.Think an army of 30-45 million.

    • Billy Hill

      Closer to 10-15%.The invisible militia.Think an army of 30-45 million.

    • Billy Hill

      Closer to 10-15%.The invisible militia.Think an army of 30-45 million.

    • oldguy199

      How many ILLEGALS are there that would do the dirty work for amnisty?

      • pslinger

        Illegals have no stake in America. They don’t share the American dream, feel any patriotic loyalty to America, or respect us or our laws. If they did they wouldn’t be here illegally. If a 2nd civil war were to break out, most would probably self-deport back to Mexico, and the ones who stayed to fight as loyalists to the Leftist 0bama regime wouldn’t last long.

    • oldguy199

      How many ILLEGALS are there that would do the dirty work for amnisty?

    • oldguy199

      How many ILLEGALS are there that would do the dirty work for amnisty?

    • oldguy199

      How many ILLEGALS are there that would do the dirty work for amnisty?

  • pslinger

    3% of 300 million is 9 million. 9 million armed patriots is nothing to sneeze at. Consider a scenario where patriotic forces in our own military staged a coup, and called for help from the citizenry in the process. Many LEOs would likely join as well. IMHO DHS would not be able to stand against us.

  • FedUpWithWelfareStates

    It will be a mixed bag of those in uniform that either will or will not fire on the American public, w/o considering the ramifications of their acts.

    Once the government (to include DHS, etc.) and military cross the line against the very citizens that they have taken an oath to protect, via the constitution, then they lose their moral authority.
    Imagine the American people, after responding appropriately to such a grave offense (Yes, the 3% will have some heavy lifting while the lambs cower in their caves), permanently abolishing whatever branch (s) of the military involved?

    Something for them to think about…

  • FedUpWithWelfareStates

    It will be a mixed bag of those in uniform that either will or will not fire on the American public, w/o considering the ramifications of their acts.

    Once the government (to include DHS, etc.) and military cross the line against the very citizens that they have taken an oath to protect, via the constitution, then they lose their moral authority.
    Imagine the American people, after responding appropriately to such a grave offense (Yes, the 3% will have some heavy lifting while the lambs cower in their caves), permanently abolishing whatever branch (s) of the military involved?

    Something for them to think about…

    • LEL

      Any opposition would have to be organized, otherwise random acts againt government forces would be indisguishable from riots, looting, and gang wars.

      • Grayzel

        LEL, please explain yourself further so I am able to understand your point.

      • Grayzel

        LEL, please explain yourself further so I am able to understand your point.

        • LEL

          “Yes, the 3% will have some heavy lifting while the lambs cower in their caves” – Statements like this annoy me. Just how will this brave 3%, scattered across America I presume, organize and coordinate their effort? Who would lead, and how would anyone know the leader to be worthy? America’s only hope for restoration is a military coup, but that may invite foreign intervention.

          On the other hand there are prophecies. It’s beginning to look a lot like End Times to me.
          {Is your emblem the Star of David?}

        • LEL

          “Yes, the 3% will have some heavy lifting while the lambs cower in their caves” – Statements like this annoy me. Just how will this brave 3%, scattered across America I presume, organize and coordinate their effort? Who would lead, and how would anyone know the leader to be worthy? America’s only hope for restoration is a military coup, but that may invite foreign intervention.

          On the other hand there are prophecies. It’s beginning to look a lot like End Times to me.
          {Is your emblem the Star of David?}

        • LEL

          “Yes, the 3% will have some heavy lifting while the lambs cower in their caves” – Statements like this annoy me. Just how will this brave 3%, scattered across America I presume, organize and coordinate their effort? Who would lead, and how would anyone know the leader to be worthy? America’s only hope for restoration is a military coup, but that may invite foreign intervention.

          On the other hand there are prophecies. It’s beginning to look a lot like End Times to me.
          {Is your emblem the Star of David?}

          • Grayzel

            Yes, it is the Star of David and it represents what took place during the holocaust. I like others think that people area already organizing. Not into large armies but small survival groups. You mention gangs and looting. I also think these will happen and will be an advantage to any resistance. The government will have its hands full just supplying food and necessities to the sheeple. Cities will burn as people flee from lack of food and riots. Those in the military who break their Constitutional oath will be needed to control this mess. Thousands in the military will keep their oaths and retired military will join them.

          • Ed Williams

            3%, motivated, will be something to behold. Count on it. I work every day in Mr. & Mrs. Average’s homes, and at least around here the number is somewhere North of 75%. Your mileage may vary…

          • Ed Williams

            3%, motivated, will be something to behold. Count on it. I work every day in Mr. & Mrs. Average’s homes, and at least around here the number is somewhere North of 75%. Your mileage may vary…

          • Ed Williams

            3%, motivated, will be something to behold. Count on it. I work every day in Mr. & Mrs. Average’s homes, and at least around here the number is somewhere North of 75%. Your mileage may vary…

        • LEL

          “Yes, the 3% will have some heavy lifting while the lambs cower in their caves” – Statements like this annoy me. Just how will this brave 3%, scattered across America I presume, organize and coordinate their effort? Who would lead, and how would anyone know the leader to be worthy? America’s only hope for restoration is a military coup, but that may invite foreign intervention.

          On the other hand there are prophecies. It’s beginning to look a lot like End Times to me.
          {Is your emblem the Star of David?}

      • upsidedownjack

        Not so, Read the Art of War. then think of the “X” factor of not knowing who did what, where, but knowing to whom thing’s are done to! Many thing’s have been done thru history, by Small groups of “fighter’s”, all working for the same thing. In the End with the Will to live FREE, “FREEDOM” will WIN!

        U.S.N. 1963/1967 South East Asia

      • upsidedownjack

        Not so, Read the Art of War. then think of the “X” factor of not knowing who did what, where, but knowing to whom thing’s are done to! Many thing’s have been done thru history, by Small groups of “fighter’s”, all working for the same thing. In the End with the Will to live FREE, “FREEDOM” will WIN!

        U.S.N. 1963/1967 South East Asia

      • upsidedownjack

        Not so, Read the Art of War. then think of the “X” factor of not knowing who did what, where, but knowing to whom thing’s are done to! Many thing’s have been done thru history, by Small groups of “fighter’s”, all working for the same thing. In the End with the Will to live FREE, “FREEDOM” will WIN!

        U.S.N. 1963/1967 South East Asia

    • LEL

      Any opposition would have to be organized, otherwise random acts againt government forces would be indisguishable from riots, looting, and gang wars.

    • LEL

      Any opposition would have to be organized, otherwise random acts againt government forces would be indisguishable from riots, looting, and gang wars.

    • upsidedownjack

      3% with the will, can overcome many that are forced to do!

    • upsidedownjack

      3% with the will, can overcome many that are forced to do!

    • Ed Williams

      Would that be Waco, perhaps, or maybe Pine Ridge? Randy Weaver’s place? The problem is that when the jackboots set up their ops, the players only know what the suits tell them, until it’s too late… When all you have is a DHS, everything looks like a terrorist. Something to keep in mind…

    • Ed Williams

      Would that be Waco, perhaps, or maybe Pine Ridge? Randy Weaver’s place? The problem is that when the jackboots set up their ops, the players only know what the suits tell them, until it’s too late… When all you have is a DHS, everything looks like a terrorist. Something to keep in mind…

  • FedUpWithWelfareStates

    It will be a mixed bag of those in uniform that either will or will not fire on the American public, w/o considering the ramifications of their acts.

    Once the government (to include DHS, etc.) and military cross the line against the very citizens that they have taken an oath to protect, via the constitution, then they lose their moral authority.
    Imagine the American people, after responding appropriately to such a grave offense (Yes, the 3% will have some heavy lifting while the lambs cower in their caves), permanently abolishing whatever branch (s) of the military involved?

    Something for them to think about…

  • Bill Board

    I’d rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.

    • T

      AMEN! or watch my grandkids suffer under the heal of a tyrant id gladly give my life in defense of it ,t

      • oldguy199

        Define tyranny and compare what has happened in the last few months’
        WE are frogs sitting in a pan that is heating up and none will jump

      • oldguy199

        Define tyranny and compare what has happened in the last few months’
        WE are frogs sitting in a pan that is heating up and none will jump

      • oldguy199

        Define tyranny and compare what has happened in the last few months’
        WE are frogs sitting in a pan that is heating up and none will jump

        • Thomas Sharp

          Some of US already have

        • Thomas Sharp

          Some of US already have

        • Thomas Sharp

          Some of US already have

      • oldguy199

        Define tyranny and compare what has happened in the last few months’
        WE are frogs sitting in a pan that is heating up and none will jump

    • T

      AMEN! or watch my grandkids suffer under the heal of a tyrant id gladly give my life in defense of it ,t

    • runnindeer

      I won’t get on my knees to any man or woman walking this Earth but I will get on my knees to All mighty God. We all need to kneel down ( at least spiritually) in order to be lifted up and in order to plead with the creator to save our Country .

    • runnindeer

      I won’t get on my knees to any man or woman walking this Earth but I will get on my knees to All mighty God. We all need to kneel down ( at least spiritually) in order to be lifted up and in order to plead with the creator to save our Country .

    • runnindeer

      I won’t get on my knees to any man or woman walking this Earth but I will get on my knees to All mighty God. We all need to kneel down ( at least spiritually) in order to be lifted up and in order to plead with the creator to save our Country .

  • Bill Board

    I’d rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.

  • Bill Board

    I’d rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.

  • Bill Board

    I’d rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.

  • WayneJ

    I want to know how much the cost was of the 1.6 billion rounds. Cut their damn budget by twice that…..tell them if they can squander that kind of money on something they purportedly have no use for then obviously their budget is far too big. The House, with decent leadership, can jack with these jerks big time …tighten up the purse strings.

  • WayneJ

    I want to know how much the cost was of the 1.6 billion rounds. Cut their damn budget by twice that…..tell them if they can squander that kind of money on something they purportedly have no use for then obviously their budget is far too big. The House, with decent leadership, can jack with these jerks big time …tighten up the purse strings.

  • WayneJ

    I want to know how much the cost was of the 1.6 billion rounds. Cut their damn budget by twice that…..tell them if they can squander that kind of money on something they purportedly have no use for then obviously their budget is far too big. The House, with decent leadership, can jack with these jerks big time …tighten up the purse strings.

  • http://www.facebook.com/phil.hamel.35 Phil Hamel

    I sure hope not. They all took an oath to defend the CONSTITUTION of the United States of America, And I think they will honor that oath.

    Read the Constitution, Defend this country against ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN OR DOMESTIC. And I believe they will do that. GOD BLESS OUR MILITARY….

  • http://www.facebook.com/phil.hamel.35 Phil Hamel

    I sure hope not. They all took an oath to defend the CONSTITUTION of the United States of America, And I think they will honor that oath.

    Read the Constitution, Defend this country against ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN OR DOMESTIC. And I believe they will do that. GOD BLESS OUR MILITARY….

  • http://www.facebook.com/phil.hamel.35 Phil Hamel

    I sure hope not. They all took an oath to defend the CONSTITUTION of the United States of America, And I think they will honor that oath.

    Read the Constitution, Defend this country against ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN OR DOMESTIC. And I believe they will do that. GOD BLESS OUR MILITARY….

    • LEL

      It’s not necessarily the American military we need worry about, at least for now, it’s obama’s civilian army he spoke of in 2007 – The Department of Homeland Security. They’re the outfit with near two billion bullets and the 2700 light tanks.

    • LEL

      It’s not necessarily the American military we need worry about, at least for now, it’s obama’s civilian army he spoke of in 2007 – The Department of Homeland Security. They’re the outfit with near two billion bullets and the 2700 light tanks.

    • LEL

      It’s not necessarily the American military we need worry about, at least for now, it’s obama’s civilian army he spoke of in 2007 – The Department of Homeland Security. They’re the outfit with near two billion bullets and the 2700 light tanks.

    • LEL

      It’s not necessarily the American military we need worry about, at least for now, it’s obama’s civilian army he spoke of in 2007 – The Department of Homeland Security. They’re the outfit with near two billion bullets and the 2700 light tanks.

    • T

      Join Oathkeepers on facebook as i have , never took the oath officialy but will gladly defend our rights even being a minister of the gospel we have a duty to fight evil ,t

    • T

      Join Oathkeepers on facebook as i have , never took the oath officialy but will gladly defend our rights even being a minister of the gospel we have a duty to fight evil ,t

    • T

      Join Oathkeepers on facebook as i have , never took the oath officialy but will gladly defend our rights even being a minister of the gospel we have a duty to fight evil ,t

  • http://www.facebook.com/phil.hamel.35 Phil Hamel

    Tom, Ever heard the name SORO’S.. That is George Soro’s..

  • bob

    Ever since this numb skull (who is constituionally unqualified for the position) became “president”, it has been my belief that Obama is a puppet with probably George Soros pulling the strings. Not once has Obama exhibited the intelligence to do the job. In his own words, “He (I) don’t remember much about high school, I went to class sparingly, drank beer to excess, tried drugs enthusiastically, and hung out on the beach”.

    • Billy Hill

      Given that admitted history,one begins to wonder,HOW,did he get into any institution of higher learning vs an institution of incarceration.

    • Billy Hill

      Given that admitted history,one begins to wonder,HOW,did he get into any institution of higher learning vs an institution of incarceration.

    • senior citizen

      I live in the mountains in the South and let me tell you, there are a lot of patriots here. They are preparing for the worst. I am in my 70′s, but have started stockpiling as much ammo as I can get my hands on. I will not be loaded into trucks and taken to a camp that the government has already started to build.

    • senior citizen

      I live in the mountains in the South and let me tell you, there are a lot of patriots here. They are preparing for the worst. I am in my 70′s, but have started stockpiling as much ammo as I can get my hands on. I will not be loaded into trucks and taken to a camp that the government has already started to build.

    • senior citizen

      I live in the mountains in the South and let me tell you, there are a lot of patriots here. They are preparing for the worst. I am in my 70′s, but have started stockpiling as much ammo as I can get my hands on. I will not be loaded into trucks and taken to a camp that the government has already started to build.

    • senior citizen

      I live in the mountains in the South and let me tell you, there are a lot of patriots here. They are preparing for the worst. I am in my 70′s, but have started stockpiling as much ammo as I can get my hands on. I will not be loaded into trucks and taken to a camp that the government has already started to build.

    • oldguy199

      That “puppet” HAS the power of life and death over you and me. Has the MSM to broadcast lies so he can step on us With the cheers from all on this BLOG
      “Numb-skull” HAS the POWER–we do not. Every day you and I willfully give him our freedoms and only put up token squacks=pathetic bunch aren’t we

    • oldguy199

      That “puppet” HAS the power of life and death over you and me. Has the MSM to broadcast lies so he can step on us With the cheers from all on this BLOG
      “Numb-skull” HAS the POWER–we do not. Every day you and I willfully give him our freedoms and only put up token squacks=pathetic bunch aren’t we

    • oldguy199

      That “puppet” HAS the power of life and death over you and me. Has the MSM to broadcast lies so he can step on us With the cheers from all on this BLOG
      “Numb-skull” HAS the POWER–we do not. Every day you and I willfully give him our freedoms and only put up token squacks=pathetic bunch aren’t we

    • oldguy199

      That “puppet” HAS the power of life and death over you and me. Has the MSM to broadcast lies so he can step on us With the cheers from all on this BLOG
      “Numb-skull” HAS the POWER–we do not. Every day you and I willfully give him our freedoms and only put up token squacks=pathetic bunch aren’t we

  • bob

    Ever since this numb skull (who is constituionally unqualified for the position) became “president”, it has been my belief that Obama is a puppet with probably George Soros pulling the strings. Not once has Obama exhibited the intelligence to do the job. In his own words, “He (I) don’t remember much about high school, I went to class sparingly, drank beer to excess, tried drugs enthusiastically, and hung out on the beach”.

  • bob

    Ever since this numb skull (who is constituionally unqualified for the position) became “president”, it has been my belief that Obama is a puppet with probably George Soros pulling the strings. Not once has Obama exhibited the intelligence to do the job. In his own words, “He (I) don’t remember much about high school, I went to class sparingly, drank beer to excess, tried drugs enthusiastically, and hung out on the beach”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Donald-Langlois/1131832935 Donald Langlois

    As with everything else, yes, there will be some will, but not all. Some soldiers are able to think for themselves, some are will follow any order given.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Donald-Langlois/1131832935 Donald Langlois

    As with everything else, yes, there will be some will, but not all. Some soldiers are able to think for themselves, some are will follow any order given.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Donald-Langlois/1131832935 Donald Langlois

    As with everything else, yes, there will be some will, but not all. Some soldiers are able to think for themselves, some are will follow any order given.

  • lm1b2

    Troops had no problem at Kent State,or in our history,draft riots, civil war NYC,etc.

  • lm1b2

    Troops had no problem at Kent State,or in our history,draft riots, civil war NYC,etc.

  • lm1b2

    Troops had no problem at Kent State,or in our history,draft riots, civil war NYC,etc.

  • rpforprez

    They WILL fire on us, if our gubment convinces them that we are the terrorists. They are already making white conservatives look like potential terrorists. If you are white, don’t wear a hoodie.

  • rpforprez

    They WILL fire on us, if our gubment convinces them that we are the terrorists. They are already making white conservatives look like potential terrorists. If you are white, don’t wear a hoodie.

  • rpforprez

    They WILL fire on us, if our gubment convinces them that we are the terrorists. They are already making white conservatives look like potential terrorists. If you are white, don’t wear a hoodie.

  • alan_1969

    When it comes to defending our liberties, I will stand up and be counted. I am writing letters and sending out emails now, but that isn’t the last resort. I would rather die trying than be a slave to the system.

  • alan_1969

    When it comes to defending our liberties, I will stand up and be counted. I am writing letters and sending out emails now, but that isn’t the last resort. I would rather die trying than be a slave to the system.

  • alan_1969

    When it comes to defending our liberties, I will stand up and be counted. I am writing letters and sending out emails now, but that isn’t the last resort. I would rather die trying than be a slave to the system.

  • john4637

    There will be division in the military just like there was in 1860 just human nature. We are facing without a doubt civil war and the chips will fall where they may. Now another uncontrollable event may occur and that could be outside intervention from other foreign powers then its “good night folks!”

  • Jim

    Why all the ammo? How about, to supply Acorn and the rest of the Obama army, who will have no trouble firing at anyone who is threatening their paycheck. The guys who are paid for immorality, will have no trouble with acting immorally.

  • Jim

    Why all the ammo? How about, to supply Acorn and the rest of the Obama army, who will have no trouble firing at anyone who is threatening their paycheck. The guys who are paid for immorality, will have no trouble with acting immorally.

  • jdbixii

    It is regrettable and almost inconceivable that the question would even be asked. However, given the changes in demographics which government has fostered over the decades since WWII, and the absence of moral principles which have led us into conflicts during the past 50 years, it is not particularly surprising that it is now a consideration. Indiscrimination leads to indiscrimination. When values are not mutually held in common by all within societies, security problems are the result and the response to security problems is to eliminate them, one way or another. This is the basic reason for abortion, which, like it or not, is simply the result of the failure of a woman to choose correctly before sex, before conception and before abortion needs to be a “final solution.” Having failed at discrimination, the options become fewer.
    Hopefully, the congress of the United States will impeach the president before an order is given to American military personnel to fire on American citizens, because diversity is the reason why those same military personnel would carry out such an order. It is as simple as “birds of a feather flock together.”

  • jdbixii

    It is regrettable and almost inconceivable that the question would even be asked. However, given the changes in demographics which government has fostered over the decades since WWII, and the absence of moral principles which have led us into conflicts during the past 50 years, it is not particularly surprising that it is now a consideration. Indiscrimination leads to indiscrimination. When values are not mutually held in common by all within societies, security problems are the result and the response to security problems is to eliminate them, one way or another. This is the basic reason for abortion, which, like it or not, is simply the result of the failure of a woman to choose correctly before sex, before conception and before abortion needs to be a “final solution.” Having failed at discrimination, the options become fewer.
    Hopefully, the congress of the United States will impeach the president before an order is given to American military personnel to fire on American citizens, because diversity is the reason why those same military personnel would carry out such an order. It is as simple as “birds of a feather flock together.”

  • jdbixii

    It is regrettable and almost inconceivable that the question would even be asked. However, given the changes in demographics which government has fostered over the decades since WWII, and the absence of moral principles which have led us into conflicts during the past 50 years, it is not particularly surprising that it is now a consideration. Indiscrimination leads to indiscrimination. When values are not mutually held in common by all within societies, security problems are the result and the response to security problems is to eliminate them, one way or another. This is the basic reason for abortion, which, like it or not, is simply the result of the failure of a woman to choose correctly before sex, before conception and before abortion needs to be a “final solution.” Having failed at discrimination, the options become fewer.
    Hopefully, the congress of the United States will impeach the president before an order is given to American military personnel to fire on American citizens, because diversity is the reason why those same military personnel would carry out such an order. It is as simple as “birds of a feather flock together.”

  • irish8787

    U.S. Forces Don’t Have To Fire On U.S.Citizians , As it is A UNLAWFULL ORDER

  • irish8787

    U.S. Forces Don’t Have To Fire On U.S.Citizians , As it is A UNLAWFULL ORDER

  • irish8787

    U.S. Forces Don’t Have To Fire On U.S.Citizians , As it is A UNLAWFULL ORDER

  • Bob

    Everyone needs to have Celox on hand in case they get shot to stop the bleeding

  • Bob

    Everyone needs to have Celox on hand in case they get shot to stop the bleeding

  • Darrell G. Walton

    This is the very reason Commandant Obama has put his minions in place to wash Christianity out of the military as to condition the troops to have little or no regard for human life.

  • HowardW

    When would I fight? When any of the above happens to anyone including me!

  • pdh42

    I do believe that Nobama is just a puppet whose strings are being pulled…. Of course with that being said I do believe he belives in the destruction of this nation….

  • irish8787

    I WILL RESIST UNTIL THAY TAKE MY GUN OUT OF MY DEAD HAND THIS IS AMERICA OUR COUNTRY AND I WILL FIGHT AND IF NEEDED DIE FOR IT AS I DID IN VIET NAM IN 1971.

  • sovereigntyofone

    With the latest actions by our government against even our own troops like the ” religion ” is treason attack against them. I believe this is all part of a ” weeding out ” process to get rid of the ” believers ” and just have remaining the robots and drones that will act upon orders ( such as firing on U.S. citizens ) without question. Obama has already started his ” weeding out ” of the generals and those in command and getting rid of those that will not give orders to fire upon U.S. citizens. I believe it is coming, the day that Obama and the democommies make their final ” push ” for the complete destruction of this Republic as we know it in order to build his communist utopia of his warped mind. As far as fighting back, some of us have no other choice because we took an oath to this Republic as well as our Constitution to : Protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against ALL enemies, both foreign and domestic.
    However this does not mean to run out of your house when you see them coming down your street or road with guns blazing. All that accomplishes is getting yourself killed for nothing. If we are to survive this battle IF it comes, we must learn from our enemies how they fought against us and won. A single flea on a dogs back will drive him crazy. Fighting a war of a ” thousand cuts ” is winnable just a much as ” shock and awe “.
    IF this comes down people will organize and like the French resistance during WW2 will fight a ” commando war ” of resistance. Will we win, only history will decide the outcome. I know that I would rather die on my feet a free man than to serve on my knees to communism or Islam.

  • irish8787

    AS SAID A LONG TIME AGO, GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH.

  • irish8787

    AS SAID A LONG TIME AGO, GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH.

  • irish8787

    AS SAID A LONG TIME AGO, GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH.

  • Cynical

    , The Generals will be fired and lose their pensions if they fail to obey Obama’s biddings

    of course they will order their troops to fire on Civilians, there was Martial Law Control installed in Boston recently was there not ? Obama is Teflon, the Military Brass is no longer above politics they are Military Marshmallows today. They will cravenly do what they are told to do, otherwise they will lose their pensions.

    • Ed Williams

      If the military starts attacking Americans, pensions will be among the last things they’ll need to worry about. At that point, the Rules of Engagement will be seriously revised. Pray for the best, prep for the worst…

    • Ed Williams

      If the military starts attacking Americans, pensions will be among the last things they’ll need to worry about. At that point, the Rules of Engagement will be seriously revised. Pray for the best, prep for the worst…

    • Ed Williams

      If the military starts attacking Americans, pensions will be among the last things they’ll need to worry about. At that point, the Rules of Engagement will be seriously revised. Pray for the best, prep for the worst…

  • Cynical

    , The Generals will be fired and lose their pensions if they fail to obey Obama’s biddings

    of course they will order their troops to fire on Civilians, there was Martial Law Control installed in Boston recently was there not ? Obama is Teflon, the Military Brass is no longer above politics they are Military Marshmallows today. They will cravenly do what they are told to do, otherwise they will lose their pensions.

  • Cynical

    , The Generals will be fired and lose their pensions if they fail to obey Obama’s biddings

    of course they will order their troops to fire on Civilians, there was Martial Law Control installed in Boston recently was there not ? Obama is Teflon, the Military Brass is no longer above politics they are Military Marshmallows today. They will cravenly do what they are told to do, otherwise they will lose their pensions.

  • Cynical

    , The Generals will be fired and lose their pensions if they fail to obey Obama’s biddings

    of course they will order their troops to fire on Civilians, there was Martial Law Control installed in Boston recently was there not ? Obama is Teflon, the Military Brass is no longer above politics they are Military Marshmallows today. They will cravenly do what they are told to do, otherwise they will lose their pensions.

  • USNbubblehead

    Another theory being floated out there among the shooting enthusiasts I talk to regularly is that the buy-up, being mostly 9 mm and .40 S&W, is meant to curtail supplies of these handgun loads in an effort to permanently drive up ammo prices.

    Then all it takes is just TALK of some sort of limiting legislation to start an avalanche of demand, effectively drying up supplies of practically every caliber of ammo on the market. This of course drives up prices across the board. They won’t ever return to what they were, most likely.

    So, in a nutshell, government agencies won’t need any, because they bought most of the supply at rock-bottom prices, and we won’t have access to much of it because supplies are seriously impacted and the remaining ammo is too expansive to buy in any quantity.

    Do I think the 0 and Big Sis are capable of plotting and executing such a caper to forward their totalitarian ideology?

    Yeah, pretty much.

  • USNbubblehead

    Another theory being floated out there among the shooting enthusiasts I talk to regularly is that the buy-up, being mostly 9 mm and .40 S&W, is meant to curtail supplies of these handgun loads in an effort to permanently drive up ammo prices.

    Then all it takes is just TALK of some sort of limiting legislation to start an avalanche of demand, effectively drying up supplies of practically every caliber of ammo on the market. This of course drives up prices across the board. They won’t ever return to what they were, most likely.

    So, in a nutshell, government agencies won’t need any, because they bought most of the supply at rock-bottom prices, and we won’t have access to much of it because supplies are seriously impacted and the remaining ammo is too expansive to buy in any quantity.

    Do I think the 0 and Big Sis are capable of plotting and executing such a caper to forward their totalitarian ideology?

    Yeah, pretty much.

  • USNbubblehead

    Another theory being floated out there among the shooting enthusiasts I talk to regularly is that the buy-up, being mostly 9 mm and .40 S&W, is meant to curtail supplies of these handgun loads in an effort to permanently drive up ammo prices.

    Then all it takes is just TALK of some sort of limiting legislation to start an avalanche of demand, effectively drying up supplies of practically every caliber of ammo on the market. This of course drives up prices across the board. They won’t ever return to what they were, most likely.

    So, in a nutshell, government agencies won’t need any, because they bought most of the supply at rock-bottom prices, and we won’t have access to much of it because supplies are seriously impacted and the remaining ammo is too expansive to buy in any quantity.

    Do I think the 0 and Big Sis are capable of plotting and executing such a caper to forward their totalitarian ideology?

    Yeah, pretty much.

  • USNbubblehead

    Another theory being floated out there among the shooting enthusiasts I talk to regularly is that the buy-up, being mostly 9 mm and .40 S&W, is meant to curtail supplies of these handgun loads in an effort to permanently drive up ammo prices.

    Then all it takes is just TALK of some sort of limiting legislation to start an avalanche of demand, effectively drying up supplies of practically every caliber of ammo on the market. This of course drives up prices across the board. They won’t ever return to what they were, most likely.

    So, in a nutshell, government agencies won’t need any, because they bought most of the supply at rock-bottom prices, and we won’t have access to much of it because supplies are seriously impacted and the remaining ammo is too expansive to buy in any quantity.

    Do I think the 0 and Big Sis are capable of plotting and executing such a caper to forward their totalitarian ideology?

    Yeah, pretty much.

  • irish8787

    PEOPLE MUST HANG THE ONE’S THAT ARE TRADORS TO OUR COUNTRY

    • oldguy199

      What are you going to do with 50,000,000 corpses?

      • garysvent

        Have the Mexicans carry them home.

      • garysvent

        Have the Mexicans carry them home.

      • garysvent

        Have the Mexicans carry them home.

      • irish8787

        BURN THEM

  • irish8787

    PEOPLE MUST HANG THE ONE’S THAT ARE TRADORS TO OUR COUNTRY

  • irish8787

    PEOPLE MUST HANG THE ONE’S THAT ARE TRADORS TO OUR COUNTRY

  • retvet

    Some times people act before thinking. So beware.

  • retvet

    Some times people act before thinking. So beware.

  • retvet

    Some times people act before thinking. So beware.

  • CAllenDoudna

    Here is a message I just sent to my Congressman:

    The Obama Administration has purchased tens of thousands of rounds of ammo
    for every employee of Homeland Security, FBI, ect. claiming all this ammo is
    needed for target practice. They should only need a couple hundred rounds at
    most. Could you introduce a bill declaring this to be surpluss and that it must
    be auctioned to the public by July 4 to the highest bidder and proceeds used to
    pay the National Debt.

    Feel free to contact your Representative:

    http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

    http://www.house.gov/

  • CAllenDoudna

    Here is a message I just sent to my Congressman:

    The Obama Administration has purchased tens of thousands of rounds of ammo
    for every employee of Homeland Security, FBI, ect. claiming all this ammo is
    needed for target practice. They should only need a couple hundred rounds at
    most. Could you introduce a bill declaring this to be surpluss and that it must
    be auctioned to the public by July 4 to the highest bidder and proceeds used to
    pay the National Debt.

    Feel free to contact your Representative:

    http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

    http://www.house.gov/

  • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

    Please stop with this idiotic myth about “1.6 Billion rounds” – it’s CRAP! Yes, there are contracts where such quantities could be ordered, but nowhere near that many rounds have been ordered. Anyone can get access to the data from the Federal Procurement Data System – fpds.gov – the actual orders for ammunition under 30 MM (all small arms ammunition, and then some) are DOWN over the last few years. Pull the data yourself and look at it instead of just repeating myths generated by conspiracy theorists who are convinced the evil government megamachine is out to destroy the country.
    I don’t know where all the ammunition is – it’s hard to find but not only due to high demand or there would be supply flowing continuously through distributors and retailers. That isn’t happening – all the distributors we contact have had virtually nothing to ship anywhere. Even so, it’s NOT being bought by the federal government, no matter what you read on the infallible Internets.

    • Grayzel

      I find it interesting that you site a government internet site as your source then go on to write this – “no matter what you read on the infallible Internets.” Mark

      • SmithWinston6478

        GZ, Many of us noticed that.

        “The trouble with the Internet is that it’s impossible to tell which quotes are real.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

      • SmithWinston6478

        GZ, Many of us noticed that.

        “The trouble with the Internet is that it’s impossible to tell which quotes are real.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

      • SmithWinston6478

        GZ, Many of us noticed that.

        “The trouble with the Internet is that it’s impossible to tell which quotes are real.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

      • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

        Data is data. Unless you’re going to argue that someone is munging the data, where it’s hosted is pretty much irrelevant. As I mentioned elsewhere, I was involved in creating this system and know how it is sourced. Unless the offices are not using their regular contracting systems to write the contracts, the orders are automatically entered into this data warehouse. DOD data is delayed 90 days for operational security, but the rest of the data is updated daily. I realize that won’t dissuade the anti-government zealot, but it’s true nonetheless.

      • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

        Data is data. Unless you’re going to argue that someone is munging the data, where it’s hosted is pretty much irrelevant. As I mentioned elsewhere, I was involved in creating this system and know how it is sourced. Unless the offices are not using their regular contracting systems to write the contracts, the orders are automatically entered into this data warehouse. DOD data is delayed 90 days for operational security, but the rest of the data is updated daily. I realize that won’t dissuade the anti-government zealot, but it’s true nonetheless.

      • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

        Data is data. Unless you’re going to argue that someone is munging the data, where it’s hosted is pretty much irrelevant. As I mentioned elsewhere, I was involved in creating this system and know how it is sourced. Unless the offices are not using their regular contracting systems to write the contracts, the orders are automatically entered into this data warehouse. DOD data is delayed 90 days for operational security, but the rest of the data is updated daily. I realize that won’t dissuade the anti-government zealot, but it’s true nonetheless.

    • Grayzel

      I find it interesting that you site a government internet site as your source then go on to write this – “no matter what you read on the infallible Internets.” Mark

    • CrustyOldGeezer

      So.
      The government isn’t getting any ammunition.

      The private sector isn’t getting any ammunition.

      There are no records indicating that the vast majority of domestic ammunition is being shipped overseas.

      There has been no indication that the ammunition producers have been laying off employees due to lack of orders.

      In essence, there is no supporting data for your position.

      • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

        I didn’t say there were no records indicating the vast majority of domestic ammunition is being shipped overseas. It could be happening, even if there are no records of it. It’s the one theory of what’s happening that I can’t refute or confirm with data.
        I have hard data showing the Federal government isn’t buying the ammunition (and gave the link to the source), there’s plenty of anectodal evidence showing that the private sector and local governments are not getting any, and the ammunition manufacturers who have been willing to say anything at all (so far, only Hornady and ATK) confirm they’re not selling mass quantities to the Feds and are are running at maximum capacity.
        None of that says why we can’t find ammo, but it absolutely says that the most popular consipracy theory – that the Feds are buying it all up – is complete bunk.

        • CrustyOldGeezer

          Odd…

          I never said you said the ammunition was being shipped overseas.
          I said there was no evidence of overseas shipping.

          You provided a link to ‘support’ your theory, yet you failed to provide any data on where the record levels of ammunition are going.

          Since the ammunition is not being given away, it has to be some very deep pockets doing the purchasing.

          It’s not on Wal-Marts shelves, nor Cabelas, or Dicks Sporting Goods, or any other retail outlet.

          That means it is not ‘free market’ entities doing the buying.

          The list of possible buyers is getting to be very short.

          You provide “hard data’, but the only “hard” part is the “HARD TO SWALLOW” part.

          • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

            I don’t know where it’s going, and I’ve tried to find out. As noted earlier, I have debunked most of the consipracy theories except that one, and I don’t have a way to confirm or refute it.
            I provided a link to the system with the source data so you can do the research yourself and see that it’s not going to orders placed by the DHS or any other Federal customer, but it seems you instead want me to spoon feed it to you. I don’t have time for that. If you don’t believe my analysis of the data, go ahead and analyze it yourself then come back with something showing it is going to a Federal customer. I don’t have time to argue with someone who has nothing more than opinions and anecdotes.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            In other words, your theory has serious issues that have been pointed out ans explained.

            You have no answers to provide further support for your theory.

            You “don’t have time” to make any effort to back up your poorly thought out theory.

            So you are going to take your theory and go home?

            Is that what you just told the world?

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            In other words, your theory has serious issues that have been pointed out ans explained.

            You have no answers to provide further support for your theory.

            You “don’t have time” to make any effort to back up your poorly thought out theory.

            So you are going to take your theory and go home?

            Is that what you just told the world?

          • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

            If you disagree with my conclusions, then we can have a discussion based on interpreting facts. I’m really not interested in arguing based on your opinions. I’ve stated what I found in the data – the Feds aren’t buying up all the ammo. I’ve not posted the data because there is far too much to put in a post. You apparently aren’t interested in looking at the source data on your own and are instead masking your unwillingness or inability to do so by attacking me. Here is a brief summary of the last 5 years of purchases, the last being FY 2013 through March (half year):

            2009 – $1,175,587,554.07
            2010 – $1,267,095,794.68
            2011 – $1,221,924,374.84
            2012 – $1,016,207,678.91
            2013 – $140,876,211.37

            These numbers include the Joint Munitions Command which purchases nearly all the military ammunition and constitutes 86-90% of all small arms ammunition purchases by the Federal government. Subtracting that leaves the following for all the rest of the Federal government ammunition under 30MM:

            2009 – $126,077,400.56
            2010 – $181,844,611.85
            2011 – $175,306,482.80
            2012 – $113,056,591.77
            2013 – $14,177,782.52

            Okay, so what about DHS? That’s the big conspiracy theory floating around. DHS includes the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center. (Unlike most local law enforcement, the feds do train with duty ammo.) “DHS purchases are up, just like everyone says, right??” Wrong.

            2009 – $24,513,834.39
            2010 – $32,031,923.56
            2011 – $29,468,514.80
            2012 – $21,525,378.49
            2013 – $2,748,481.00

            There was an increase in 2010 (true across the board, not just DHS), but it’s decreased each year since and 2012 was below the 2009 levels. That doesn’t explain where the ammo is going, and I’ve said I don’t have that answer. Unlike some others without answers, I’m not going to jump to an unsupported conclusion.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            And again….,

            The government isn’t getting any ammunition.

            The private sector isn’t getting any ammunition.

            There are no records indicating that the vast majority of domestic ammunition is being shipped overseas.

            There has been no indication that the ammunition producers have been laying off employees due to lack of orders.

            In essence, there is no supporting data for your position.

            Yet Congressmen are looking at the total number of rounds on the government wish list, find it ‘bothersome’ enough to investigate and your response is: “Please stop with this idiotic myth about “1.6 Billion rounds” – it’s
            CRAP! Yes, there are contracts where such quantities could be ordered,
            but nowhere near that many rounds have been ordered.”

            Perhaps they get their information from sources other than “infallible internets.”?

            And if the internet is so “infallible”, why are they so wrong so often?

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            And again….,

            The government isn’t getting any ammunition.

            The private sector isn’t getting any ammunition.

            There are no records indicating that the vast majority of domestic ammunition is being shipped overseas.

            There has been no indication that the ammunition producers have been laying off employees due to lack of orders.

            In essence, there is no supporting data for your position.

            Yet Congressmen are looking at the total number of rounds on the government wish list, find it ‘bothersome’ enough to investigate and your response is: “Please stop with this idiotic myth about “1.6 Billion rounds” – it’s
            CRAP! Yes, there are contracts where such quantities could be ordered,
            but nowhere near that many rounds have been ordered.”

            Perhaps they get their information from sources other than “infallible internets.”?

            And if the internet is so “infallible”, why are they so wrong so often?

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            And again….,

            The government isn’t getting any ammunition.

            The private sector isn’t getting any ammunition.

            There are no records indicating that the vast majority of domestic ammunition is being shipped overseas.

            There has been no indication that the ammunition producers have been laying off employees due to lack of orders.

            In essence, there is no supporting data for your position.

            Yet Congressmen are looking at the total number of rounds on the government wish list, find it ‘bothersome’ enough to investigate and your response is: “Please stop with this idiotic myth about “1.6 Billion rounds” – it’s
            CRAP! Yes, there are contracts where such quantities could be ordered,
            but nowhere near that many rounds have been ordered.”

            Perhaps they get their information from sources other than “infallible internets.”?

            And if the internet is so “infallible”, why are they so wrong so often?

          • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

            If you disagree with my conclusions, then we can have a discussion based on interpreting facts. I’m really not interested in arguing based on your opinions. I’ve stated what I found in the data – the Feds aren’t buying up all the ammo. I’ve not posted the data because there is far too much to put in a post. You apparently aren’t interested in looking at the source data on your own and are instead masking your unwillingness or inability to do so by attacking me. Here is a brief summary of the last 5 years of purchases, the last being FY 2013 through March (half year):

            2009 – $1,175,587,554.07
            2010 – $1,267,095,794.68
            2011 – $1,221,924,374.84
            2012 – $1,016,207,678.91
            2013 – $140,876,211.37

            These numbers include the Joint Munitions Command which purchases nearly all the military ammunition and constitutes 86-90% of all small arms ammunition purchases by the Federal government. Subtracting that leaves the following for all the rest of the Federal government ammunition under 30MM:

            2009 – $126,077,400.56
            2010 – $181,844,611.85
            2011 – $175,306,482.80
            2012 – $113,056,591.77
            2013 – $14,177,782.52

            Okay, so what about DHS? That’s the big conspiracy theory floating around. DHS includes the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center. (Unlike most local law enforcement, the feds do train with duty ammo.) “DHS purchases are up, just like everyone says, right??” Wrong.

            2009 – $24,513,834.39
            2010 – $32,031,923.56
            2011 – $29,468,514.80
            2012 – $21,525,378.49
            2013 – $2,748,481.00

            There was an increase in 2010 (true across the board, not just DHS), but it’s decreased each year since and 2012 was below the 2009 levels. That doesn’t explain where the ammo is going, and I’ve said I don’t have that answer. Unlike some others without answers, I’m not going to jump to an unsupported conclusion.

          • CrustyOldGeezer

            In other words, your theory has serious issues that have been pointed out ans explained.

            You have no answers to provide further support for your theory.

            You “don’t have time” to make any effort to back up your poorly thought out theory.

            So you are going to take your theory and go home?

            Is that what you just told the world?

          • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

            I don’t know where it’s going, and I’ve tried to find out. As noted earlier, I have debunked most of the consipracy theories except that one, and I don’t have a way to confirm or refute it.
            I provided a link to the system with the source data so you can do the research yourself and see that it’s not going to orders placed by the DHS or any other Federal customer, but it seems you instead want me to spoon feed it to you. I don’t have time for that. If you don’t believe my analysis of the data, go ahead and analyze it yourself then come back with something showing it is going to a Federal customer. I don’t have time to argue with someone who has nothing more than opinions and anecdotes.

          • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

            I don’t know where it’s going, and I’ve tried to find out. As noted earlier, I have debunked most of the consipracy theories except that one, and I don’t have a way to confirm or refute it.
            I provided a link to the system with the source data so you can do the research yourself and see that it’s not going to orders placed by the DHS or any other Federal customer, but it seems you instead want me to spoon feed it to you. I don’t have time for that. If you don’t believe my analysis of the data, go ahead and analyze it yourself then come back with something showing it is going to a Federal customer. I don’t have time to argue with someone who has nothing more than opinions and anecdotes.

          • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

            I don’t know where it’s going, and I’ve tried to find out. As noted earlier, I have debunked most of the consipracy theories except that one, and I don’t have a way to confirm or refute it.
            I provided a link to the system with the source data so you can do the research yourself and see that it’s not going to orders placed by the DHS or any other Federal customer, but it seems you instead want me to spoon feed it to you. I don’t have time for that. If you don’t believe my analysis of the data, go ahead and analyze it yourself then come back with something showing it is going to a Federal customer. I don’t have time to argue with someone who has nothing more than opinions and anecdotes.

        • CrustyOldGeezer

          Odd…

          I never said you said the ammunition was being shipped overseas.
          I said there was no evidence of overseas shipping.

          You provided a link to ‘support’ your theory, yet you failed to provide any data on where the record levels of ammunition are going.

          Since the ammunition is not being given away, it has to be some very deep pockets doing the purchasing.

          It’s not on Wal-Marts shelves, nor Cabelas, or Dicks Sporting Goods, or any other retail outlet.

          That means it is not ‘free market’ entities doing the buying.

          The list of possible buyers is getting to be very short.

          You provide “hard data’, but the only “hard” part is the “HARD TO SWALLOW” part.

        • CrustyOldGeezer

          Odd…

          I never said you said the ammunition was being shipped overseas.
          I said there was no evidence of overseas shipping.

          You provided a link to ‘support’ your theory, yet you failed to provide any data on where the record levels of ammunition are going.

          Since the ammunition is not being given away, it has to be some very deep pockets doing the purchasing.

          It’s not on Wal-Marts shelves, nor Cabelas, or Dicks Sporting Goods, or any other retail outlet.

          That means it is not ‘free market’ entities doing the buying.

          The list of possible buyers is getting to be very short.

          You provide “hard data’, but the only “hard” part is the “HARD TO SWALLOW” part.

        • CrustyOldGeezer

          Odd…

          I never said you said the ammunition was being shipped overseas.
          I said there was no evidence of overseas shipping.

          You provided a link to ‘support’ your theory, yet you failed to provide any data on where the record levels of ammunition are going.

          Since the ammunition is not being given away, it has to be some very deep pockets doing the purchasing.

          It’s not on Wal-Marts shelves, nor Cabelas, or Dicks Sporting Goods, or any other retail outlet.

          That means it is not ‘free market’ entities doing the buying.

          The list of possible buyers is getting to be very short.

          You provide “hard data’, but the only “hard” part is the “HARD TO SWALLOW” part.

      • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

        I didn’t say there were no records indicating the vast majority of domestic ammunition is being shipped overseas. It could be happening, even if there are no records of it. It’s the one theory of what’s happening that I can’t refute or confirm with data.
        I have hard data showing the Federal government isn’t buying the ammunition (and gave the link to the source), there’s plenty of anectodal evidence showing that the private sector and local governments are not getting any, and the ammunition manufacturers who have been willing to say anything at all (so far, only Hornady and ATK) confirm they’re not selling mass quantities to the Feds and are are running at maximum capacity.
        None of that says why we can’t find ammo, but it absolutely says that the most popular consipracy theory – that the Feds are buying it all up – is complete bunk.

      • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

        I didn’t say there were no records indicating the vast majority of domestic ammunition is being shipped overseas. It could be happening, even if there are no records of it. It’s the one theory of what’s happening that I can’t refute or confirm with data.
        I have hard data showing the Federal government isn’t buying the ammunition (and gave the link to the source), there’s plenty of anectodal evidence showing that the private sector and local governments are not getting any, and the ammunition manufacturers who have been willing to say anything at all (so far, only Hornady and ATK) confirm they’re not selling mass quantities to the Feds and are are running at maximum capacity.
        None of that says why we can’t find ammo, but it absolutely says that the most popular consipracy theory – that the Feds are buying it all up – is complete bunk.

      • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

        I didn’t say there were no records indicating the vast majority of domestic ammunition is being shipped overseas. It could be happening, even if there are no records of it. It’s the one theory of what’s happening that I can’t refute or confirm with data.
        I have hard data showing the Federal government isn’t buying the ammunition (and gave the link to the source), there’s plenty of anectodal evidence showing that the private sector and local governments are not getting any, and the ammunition manufacturers who have been willing to say anything at all (so far, only Hornady and ATK) confirm they’re not selling mass quantities to the Feds and are are running at maximum capacity.
        None of that says why we can’t find ammo, but it absolutely says that the most popular consipracy theory – that the Feds are buying it all up – is complete bunk.

      • ThomPaineJr12

        There is no doubt that millions of rightwing nuts are hoarding ammunition and buying it as fast as manufacturers can make it.

        • CrustyOldGeezer

          You have data to support that theory?

          Perhaps it’s left wing nuts like soros and bill gates?

        • CrustyOldGeezer

          You have data to support that theory?

          Perhaps it’s left wing nuts like soros and bill gates?

        • CrustyOldGeezer

          You have data to support that theory?

          Perhaps it’s left wing nuts like soros and bill gates?

      • ThomPaineJr12

        There is no doubt that millions of rightwing nuts are hoarding ammunition and buying it as fast as manufacturers can make it.

    • CrustyOldGeezer

      So.
      The government isn’t getting any ammunition.

      The private sector isn’t getting any ammunition.

      There are no records indicating that the vast majority of domestic ammunition is being shipped overseas.

      There has been no indication that the ammunition producers have been laying off employees due to lack of orders.

      In essence, there is no supporting data for your position.

    • CrustyOldGeezer

      So.
      The government isn’t getting any ammunition.

      The private sector isn’t getting any ammunition.

      There are no records indicating that the vast majority of domestic ammunition is being shipped overseas.

      There has been no indication that the ammunition producers have been laying off employees due to lack of orders.

      In essence, there is no supporting data for your position.

    • Marlin208

      First off, why would anyone believe a government site? And then, if civilians are not getting ammo and the police are not getting ammo and according to you the government isn’t getting any ammo, just who the hell is getting all the ammo?
      I think you should blow the sand out of your ears and eyes Desert Lion .

      • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

        First off, because I was involved in building it. I’ve used it and its predecessor systems for several years. The data is there. It has to be there, it’s there automatically without manual intervention.

        So the “clever points” you get for mocking my handle were all wiped out by not knowing what you’re talking about. Of course, none of the conspiracy nutjobs know what they’re talking about, so there’s plenty of company. They also aren’t interested in any data that shows how clueless they really are, so I don’t really expect you to be convinced.

        Out.

      • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

        First off, because I was involved in building it. I’ve used it and its predecessor systems for several years. The data is there. It has to be there, it’s there automatically without manual intervention.

        So the “clever points” you get for mocking my handle were all wiped out by not knowing what you’re talking about. Of course, none of the conspiracy nutjobs know what they’re talking about, so there’s plenty of company. They also aren’t interested in any data that shows how clueless they really are, so I don’t really expect you to be convinced.

        Out.

        • Marlin208

          Yeah, you are out all right. And just what statement did I make that led YOU to believe I don’t know what I am taking about.
          If you read the post you would see that I said no one is getting any ammo. Is that not true? So what part of any of the blog didn’t YOU understand?

        • Marlin208

          Yeah, you are out all right. And just what statement did I make that led YOU to believe I don’t know what I am taking about.
          If you read the post you would see that I said no one is getting any ammo. Is that not true? So what part of any of the blog didn’t YOU understand?

        • Marlin208

          Yeah, you are out all right. And just what statement did I make that led YOU to believe I don’t know what I am taking about.
          If you read the post you would see that I said no one is getting any ammo. Is that not true? So what part of any of the blog didn’t YOU understand?

        • Marlin208

          Yeah, you are out all right. And just what statement did I make that led YOU to believe I don’t know what I am taking about.
          If you read the post you would see that I said no one is getting any ammo. Is that not true? So what part of any of the blog didn’t YOU understand?

      • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

        First off, because I was involved in building it. I’ve used it and its predecessor systems for several years. The data is there. It has to be there, it’s there automatically without manual intervention.

        So the “clever points” you get for mocking my handle were all wiped out by not knowing what you’re talking about. Of course, none of the conspiracy nutjobs know what they’re talking about, so there’s plenty of company. They also aren’t interested in any data that shows how clueless they really are, so I don’t really expect you to be convinced.

        Out.

    • Marlin208

      First off, why would anyone believe a government site? And then, if civilians are not getting ammo and the police are not getting ammo and according to you the government isn’t getting any ammo, just who the hell is getting all the ammo?
      I think you should blow the sand out of your ears and eyes Desert Lion .

    • dntmkmecomoverther

      Mark, so why can’t Rep. Darrell Issa (sp?) get any answers from DHS on this topic? So far the well is ‘dry’ on Issa’s requests. He has called and written to the Head of DHS (Incompitano, Janet) and he has received dodges and 2 sec. quips but no answers.

      So far, the evidences we see are:
      1) no ammo in the stores since Christmas in the calibers most used: .223, .308, .40, and 9mm

      2) 120- 180 day backorders for finished ammo at the distribution level
      3) reloading supplies are nearly non existent.
      4) Federal, LC, Remington, PBR, etal, are running 3 shifts 24hrs a day and have been since January 1st 2013. They have never run 3/24 EVER…not even during Operation Desert Storm. Where is all their production going? Not overseas according to them. So Where?

      If the entity waddles like a duck, looks like a duck, has feathers like a duck and LAYS EGGS like a duck, then perhaps it IS a duck.

      All we are asking for is the truth; something this current admin doesn’t seem to be able to do.

    • dntmkmecomoverther

      Mark, so why can’t Rep. Darrell Issa (sp?) get any answers from DHS on this topic? So far the well is ‘dry’ on Issa’s requests. He has called and written to the Head of DHS (Incompitano, Janet) and he has received dodges and 2 sec. quips but no answers.

      So far, the evidences we see are:
      1) no ammo in the stores since Christmas in the calibers most used: .223, .308, .40, and 9mm

      2) 120- 180 day backorders for finished ammo at the distribution level
      3) reloading supplies are nearly non existent.
      4) Federal, LC, Remington, PBR, etal, are running 3 shifts 24hrs a day and have been since January 1st 2013. They have never run 3/24 EVER…not even during Operation Desert Storm. Where is all their production going? Not overseas according to them. So Where?

      If the entity waddles like a duck, looks like a duck, has feathers like a duck and LAYS EGGS like a duck, then perhaps it IS a duck.

      All we are asking for is the truth; something this current admin doesn’t seem to be able to do.

      • garysvent

        “If the entity waddles like a duck, looks like a duck, has feathers like a duck and LAYS EGGS like a duck, then perhaps it IS a duck.”

        This duck is headed for a quack up.

      • garysvent

        “If the entity waddles like a duck, looks like a duck, has feathers like a duck and LAYS EGGS like a duck, then perhaps it IS a duck.”

        This duck is headed for a quack up.

      • garysvent

        “If the entity waddles like a duck, looks like a duck, has feathers like a duck and LAYS EGGS like a duck, then perhaps it IS a duck.”

        This duck is headed for a quack up.

      • garysvent

        “If the entity waddles like a duck, looks like a duck, has feathers like a duck and LAYS EGGS like a duck, then perhaps it IS a duck.”

        This duck is headed for a quack up.

      • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

        Good question – no idea, although I suspect the instinct for this administration in general and Nincompitano in particular to stonewall every request from Congressional Republicans probably has a lot to do with why Rep Issa is not getting answers. All those listed symptoms are confirmed across the country. I’d love to know where all the ammo is going. It’s sure not coming to our range or to any of our distributors. But it’s not going to the Feds either.
        You’re wrong about ammo manufacturers not running around the clock before, though – it happened during the last major shortage in 2008-2009. The main difference then was that ammo was still flowing thru the system, just not enough to meet the demand. Now there’s nothing showing up anywhere in any significant quantities, and it’s affecting local law enforcement and National Guard as well as civilian shooters.
        Short of sneaking GPS transponders onto outgoing shipments from factories, I’ve tried pretty hard to find out where it’s all going. Nobody we’ve talked to knows, and we have contacts within the industry across the country. There’s a vacuum where there should be reasonable explanations. Nature (and the Internet) abhors a vacuum, and sucks all the nutty consipracy theories out into the open. I can show most are not true, but I can’t tell you what the reasons are for why none of us can find ammo.

    • dntmkmecomoverther

      Mark, so why can’t Rep. Darrell Issa (sp?) get any answers from DHS on this topic? So far the well is ‘dry’ on Issa’s requests. He has called and written to the Head of DHS (Incompitano, Janet) and he has received dodges and 2 sec. quips but no answers.

      So far, the evidences we see are:
      1) no ammo in the stores since Christmas in the calibers most used: .223, .308, .40, and 9mm

      2) 120- 180 day backorders for finished ammo at the distribution level
      3) reloading supplies are nearly non existent.
      4) Federal, LC, Remington, PBR, etal, are running 3 shifts 24hrs a day and have been since January 1st 2013. They have never run 3/24 EVER…not even during Operation Desert Storm. Where is all their production going? Not overseas according to them. So Where?

      If the entity waddles like a duck, looks like a duck, has feathers like a duck and LAYS EGGS like a duck, then perhaps it IS a duck.

      All we are asking for is the truth; something this current admin doesn’t seem to be able to do.

    • dntmkmecomoverther

      Mark, so why can’t Rep. Darrell Issa (sp?) get any answers from DHS on this topic? So far the well is ‘dry’ on Issa’s requests. He has called and written to the Head of DHS (Incompitano, Janet) and he has received dodges and 2 sec. quips but no answers.

      So far, the evidences we see are:
      1) no ammo in the stores since Christmas in the calibers most used: .223, .308, .40, and 9mm

      2) 120- 180 day backorders for finished ammo at the distribution level
      3) reloading supplies are nearly non existent.
      4) Federal, LC, Remington, PBR, etal, are running 3 shifts 24hrs a day and have been since January 1st 2013. They have never run 3/24 EVER…not even during Operation Desert Storm. Where is all their production going? Not overseas according to them. So Where?

      If the entity waddles like a duck, looks like a duck, has feathers like a duck and LAYS EGGS like a duck, then perhaps it IS a duck.

      All we are asking for is the truth; something this current admin doesn’t seem to be able to do.

  • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

    Please stop with this idiotic myth about “1.6 Billion rounds” – it’s CRAP! Yes, there are contracts where such quantities could be ordered, but nowhere near that many rounds have been ordered. Anyone can get access to the data from the Federal Procurement Data System – fpds.gov – the actual orders for ammunition under 30 MM (all small arms ammunition, and then some) are DOWN over the last few years. Pull the data yourself and look at it instead of just repeating myths generated by conspiracy theorists who are convinced the evil government megamachine is out to destroy the country.
    I don’t know where all the ammunition is – it’s hard to find but not only due to high demand or there would be supply flowing continuously through distributors and retailers. That isn’t happening – all the distributors we contact have had virtually nothing to ship anywhere. Even so, it’s NOT being bought by the federal government, no matter what you read on the infallible Internets.

  • retvet

    Almost 81 and still under oath to The Constitution of The United States of America.

  • retvet

    Almost 81 and still under oath to The Constitution of The United States of America.

  • retvet

    Almost 81 and still under oath to The Constitution of The United States of America.

  • 2War Abn Vet

    You could ask Nicholas Chauchescu (if he was still around); asking the military to fire on your own citizens often doesn’t work out very well.

  • 2War Abn Vet

    You could ask Nicholas Chauchescu (if he was still around); asking the military to fire on your own citizens often doesn’t work out very well.

  • Grayzel

    Unfortunately, I have never received any formal military training. To my ever lasting shame, during the Viet Nam war, I was a Maoist protesting against the war. Unlike many in my generation I grew up. I have spent a lot of time in the woods, know how to hunt but have not done so in years. I have taught myself, my wife and my son to shoot with very good gun control. I will fight along side of those I consider my brothers now; if they will have me. I have placed my hand on the Bible and swore to up hold our Constitution. May Yahshua bless you all.

    • upsidedownjack

      welcome to the RIGHT Side!

      Shalom!

      • Grayzel

        Shalom. I have been on the ‘right side’ for a while. Well a long while. I discovered two books that changed my life forever in 1973. John Kerry also helped with his disgusting actions and words. First the Bible and second Atlas Shrugged. Most people would find them diametrically opposed but they would be wrong. Yes, Alisa Rosenbaum (Ayn Rand) was an atheist but I used her Objectivism to find my Savior or maybe He found me.

    • upsidedownjack

      welcome to the RIGHT Side!

      Shalom!

    • upsidedownjack

      welcome to the RIGHT Side!

      Shalom!

    • upsidedownjack

      welcome to the RIGHT Side!

      Shalom!

  • Grayzel

    Unfortunately, I have never received any formal military training. To my ever lasting shame, during the Viet Nam war, I was a Maoist protesting against the war. Unlike many in my generation I grew up. I have spent a lot of time in the woods, know how to hunt but have not done so in years. I have taught myself, my wife and my son to shoot with very good gun control. I will fight along side of those I consider my brothers now; if they will have me. I have placed my hand on the Bible and swore to up hold our Constitution. May Yahshua bless you all.

  • Grayzel

    Unfortunately, I have never received any formal military training. To my ever lasting shame, during the Viet Nam war, I was a Maoist protesting against the war. Unlike many in my generation I grew up. I have spent a lot of time in the woods, know how to hunt but have not done so in years. I have taught myself, my wife and my son to shoot with very good gun control. I will fight along side of those I consider my brothers now; if they will have me. I have placed my hand on the Bible and swore to up hold our Constitution. May Yahshua bless you all.

  • samnjoeysgrama

    Two words: Kent State.

  • samnjoeysgrama

    Two words: Kent State.

  • sly311

    Doesn’t all of this make you think there is going to be marshal law sometime in this insane president’s administration? Looks like there might be civil unrest down the road judging from the demonstrations in Washington and New York on Wednesday. This is getting scary and should cause concern. The military follows orders. That’s what they’re trained to do.

  • sly311

    Doesn’t all of this make you think there is going to be marshal law sometime in this insane president’s administration? Looks like there might be civil unrest down the road judging from the demonstrations in Washington and New York on Wednesday. This is getting scary and should cause concern. The military follows orders. That’s what they’re trained to do.

  • sly311

    Doesn’t all of this make you think there is going to be marshal law sometime in this insane president’s administration? Looks like there might be civil unrest down the road judging from the demonstrations in Washington and New York on Wednesday. This is getting scary and should cause concern. The military follows orders. That’s what they’re trained to do.

    • Marlin208

      They do not have to follow unconstitutional orders, by no means.
      Just remember one thing, a lot of the military men are Christians, that is for right now and they will not gun down civilians. That had never been their purpose. I truly believe that this administration will have big problems with the military when the time comes.

    • Marlin208

      They do not have to follow unconstitutional orders, by no means.
      Just remember one thing, a lot of the military men are Christians, that is for right now and they will not gun down civilians. That had never been their purpose. I truly believe that this administration will have big problems with the military when the time comes.

    • oldguy199

      What happened in Boston or do you live under a rock? The Gestapo had full control of the city and EVERYONE is fine with that?

  • sly311

    Doesn’t all of this make you think there is going to be marshal law sometime in this insane president’s administration? Looks like there might be civil unrest down the road judging from the demonstrations in Washington and New York on Wednesday. This is getting scary and should cause concern. The military follows orders. That’s what they’re trained to do.

  • R.J. Cope

    I will follow my consiutional sworn duty to obey and defend the constittion against all enemies foreign or domestic, “so help me GOD” I am not bound to obey unlawful orders nor is any American military or law enforement officer. As to how many of these persons actually know their constitutional duty to resist unlawful orders from those appointed over them,actually brothers me. I trust that there are enough ranking officers to lead, and not follow blindly, or they will be held to answer to the people for ” treason ” whereby swift execution of justice will prevail ! SEMPER FIDELIS– As long as there is a U.S. Marine Corps, there will be an America ! I further challenge all military persons and law-enforcement officers to understand that an unlawful order, ie an order that is not constitually legal, that they choose to enforce they will ultimately be held to answer for. The “peoples court ” will be their final justice!

    • garysvent

      “so help me GOD” may be the reason the military was thinking about prosecuting Christian soldiers. If the soldier doesn’t believe in God, his oath means nothing ultimately, and he is free to shoot whoever his superior tells him to. It is the morals derived from belief in God that make a soldier a questionable slave to a military obedient to Leftist ideology.

      Trying to marginalize Christians is an important part of the Leftist strategy. Loyalty to someone other than the President or a mangled Constitution, (like loyalty to God and Bible), would be a factor working against your continued status as a citizen under the Leftist Supreme Leader; you become an outcast, a misfit, an undesirable, someone to institutionalize or just eliminate. Like Jews in Germany in the Thirties and Forties, the Scapegoat for the problems Leftist governments create in the first place with their incompetencies.

      This is also why they purposefully mangle the Constitution’s meaning, so that they can point to it and say that you are a traitor if you don’t go along with their mangled interpretation (Example: abortion, gun control).

    • garysvent

      “so help me GOD” may be the reason the military was thinking about prosecuting Christian soldiers. If the soldier doesn’t believe in God, his oath means nothing ultimately, and he is free to shoot whoever his superior tells him to. It is the morals derived from belief in God that make a soldier a questionable slave to a military obedient to Leftist ideology.

      Trying to marginalize Christians is an important part of the Leftist strategy. Loyalty to someone other than the President or a mangled Constitution, (like loyalty to God and Bible), would be a factor working against your continued status as a citizen under the Leftist Supreme Leader; you become an outcast, a misfit, an undesirable, someone to institutionalize or just eliminate. Like Jews in Germany in the Thirties and Forties, the Scapegoat for the problems Leftist governments create in the first place with their incompetencies.

      This is also why they purposefully mangle the Constitution’s meaning, so that they can point to it and say that you are a traitor if you don’t go along with their mangled interpretation (Example: abortion, gun control).

    • garysvent

      “so help me GOD” may be the reason the military was thinking about prosecuting Christian soldiers. If the soldier doesn’t believe in God, his oath means nothing ultimately, and he is free to shoot whoever his superior tells him to. It is the morals derived from belief in God that make a soldier a questionable slave to a military obedient to Leftist ideology.

      Trying to marginalize Christians is an important part of the Leftist strategy. Loyalty to someone other than the President or a mangled Constitution, (like loyalty to God and Bible), would be a factor working against your continued status as a citizen under the Leftist Supreme Leader; you become an outcast, a misfit, an undesirable, someone to institutionalize or just eliminate. Like Jews in Germany in the Thirties and Forties, the Scapegoat for the problems Leftist governments create in the first place with their incompetencies.

      This is also why they purposefully mangle the Constitution’s meaning, so that they can point to it and say that you are a traitor if you don’t go along with their mangled interpretation (Example: abortion, gun control).

    • garysvent

      “so help me GOD” may be the reason the military was thinking about prosecuting Christian soldiers. If the soldier doesn’t believe in God, his oath means nothing ultimately, and he is free to shoot whoever his superior tells him to. It is the morals derived from belief in God that make a soldier a questionable slave to a military obedient to Leftist ideology.

      Trying to marginalize Christians is an important part of the Leftist strategy. Loyalty to someone other than the President or a mangled Constitution, (like loyalty to God and Bible), would be a factor working against your continued status as a citizen under the Leftist Supreme Leader; you become an outcast, a misfit, an undesirable, someone to institutionalize or just eliminate. Like Jews in Germany in the Thirties and Forties, the Scapegoat for the problems Leftist governments create in the first place with their incompetencies.

      This is also why they purposefully mangle the Constitution’s meaning, so that they can point to it and say that you are a traitor if you don’t go along with their mangled interpretation (Example: abortion, gun control).

  • R.J. Cope

    I will follow my consiutional sworn duty to obey and defend the constittion against all enemies foreign or domestic, “so help me GOD” I am not bound to obey unlawful orders nor is any American military or law enforement officer. As to how many of these persons actually know their constitutional duty to resist unlawful orders from those appointed over them,actually brothers me. I trust that there are enough ranking officers to lead, and not follow blindly, or they will be held to answer to the people for ” treason ” whereby swift execution of justice will prevail ! SEMPER FIDELIS– As long as there is a U.S. Marine Corps, there will be an America ! I further challenge all military persons and law-enforcement officers to understand that an unlawful order, ie an order that is not constitually legal, that they choose to enforce they will ultimately be held to answer for. The “peoples court ” will be their final justice!

  • R.J. Cope

    I will follow my consiutional sworn duty to obey and defend the constittion against all enemies foreign or domestic, “so help me GOD” I am not bound to obey unlawful orders nor is any American military or law enforement officer. As to how many of these persons actually know their constitutional duty to resist unlawful orders from those appointed over them,actually brothers me. I trust that there are enough ranking officers to lead, and not follow blindly, or they will be held to answer to the people for ” treason ” whereby swift execution of justice will prevail ! SEMPER FIDELIS– As long as there is a U.S. Marine Corps, there will be an America ! I further challenge all military persons and law-enforcement officers to understand that an unlawful order, ie an order that is not constitually legal, that they choose to enforce they will ultimately be held to answer for. The “peoples court ” will be their final justice!

  • R.J. Cope

    I will follow my consiutional sworn duty to obey and defend the constittion against all enemies foreign or domestic, “so help me GOD” I am not bound to obey unlawful orders nor is any American military or law enforement officer. As to how many of these persons actually know their constitutional duty to resist unlawful orders from those appointed over them,actually brothers me. I trust that there are enough ranking officers to lead, and not follow blindly, or they will be held to answer to the people for ” treason ” whereby swift execution of justice will prevail ! SEMPER FIDELIS– As long as there is a U.S. Marine Corps, there will be an America ! I further challenge all military persons and law-enforcement officers to understand that an unlawful order, ie an order that is not constitually legal, that they choose to enforce they will ultimately be held to answer for. The “peoples court ” will be their final justice!

  • Brooklynresident

    Ron Paul filibustered to get a promise that we would have no WEAPONIZED drones in American airspace. An easy promise for the POS …POTUS….. to make. After all, how do we check under the hood of a flying drone? He OUGHT to have extracted a LAW prohibiting ANY government controlled drones over American airspace.

    Look at Bloomburg. His technomonitoring of Manhattan sets the pattern–making escape and evasion impossible. Look at the Boston videos. Do you DOUBT that ANY of those heavily ARMORED men had ANY qualms about shooting ANYONE? Look at what the gamers play. You will see these folks do it as they did in Boston–pick a neighborhood, and “clear” it.

    The IRA prevailed because they had outside help, from the Kennedys and their ilk. The same for the maquis, and our own revolution. We will be ALONE–foreigners will watch our oppression in glee.

    • Grayzel

      Rand Paul not his father Ron.

    • Grayzel

      Rand Paul not his father Ron.

      • Brooklynresident

        Got it. Tried to edit, but it won’t allow me to, for some reason.

        • Grayzel

          It is easy to get Ron in front of Paul. I see it a lot.

        • Grayzel

          It is easy to get Ron in front of Paul. I see it a lot.

        • Grayzel

          It is easy to get Ron in front of Paul. I see it a lot.

        • Grayzel

          It is easy to get Ron in front of Paul. I see it a lot.

      • Brooklynresident

        Got it. Tried to edit, but it won’t allow me to, for some reason.

    • Grayzel

      Rand Paul not his father Ron.

  • Brooklynresident

    Ron Paul filibustered to get a promise that we would have no WEAPONIZED drones in American airspace. An easy promise for the POS …POTUS….. to make. After all, how do we check under the hood of a flying drone? He OUGHT to have extracted a LAW prohibiting ANY government controlled drones over American airspace.

    Look at Bloomburg. His technomonitoring of Manhattan sets the pattern–making escape and evasion impossible. Look at the Boston videos. Do you DOUBT that ANY of those heavily ARMORED men had ANY qualms about shooting ANYONE? Look at what the gamers play. You will see these folks do it as they did in Boston–pick a neighborhood, and “clear” it.

    The IRA prevailed because they had outside help, from the Kennedys and their ilk. The same for the maquis, and our own revolution. We will be ALONE–foreigners will watch our oppression in glee.

  • Brooklynresident

    Ron Paul filibustered to get a promise that we would have no WEAPONIZED drones in American airspace. An easy promise for the POS …POTUS….. to make. After all, how do we check under the hood of a flying drone? He OUGHT to have extracted a LAW prohibiting ANY government controlled drones over American airspace.

    Look at Bloomburg. His technomonitoring of Manhattan sets the pattern–making escape and evasion impossible. Look at the Boston videos. Do you DOUBT that ANY of those heavily ARMORED men had ANY qualms about shooting ANYONE? Look at what the gamers play. You will see these folks do it as they did in Boston–pick a neighborhood, and “clear” it.

    The IRA prevailed because they had outside help, from the Kennedys and their ilk. The same for the maquis, and our own revolution. We will be ALONE–foreigners will watch our oppression in glee.

  • Brooklynresident

    Ron Paul filibustered to get a promise that we would have no WEAPONIZED drones in American airspace. An easy promise for the POS …POTUS….. to make. After all, how do we check under the hood of a flying drone? He OUGHT to have extracted a LAW prohibiting ANY government controlled drones over American airspace.

    Look at Bloomburg. His technomonitoring of Manhattan sets the pattern–making escape and evasion impossible. Look at the Boston videos. Do you DOUBT that ANY of those heavily ARMORED men had ANY qualms about shooting ANYONE? Look at what the gamers play. You will see these folks do it as they did in Boston–pick a neighborhood, and “clear” it.

    The IRA prevailed because they had outside help, from the Kennedys and their ilk. The same for the maquis, and our own revolution. We will be ALONE–foreigners will watch our oppression in glee.

  • Willi Wonka

    We need to actively re-occupy the United States of America. The Republic established in 1787. To clarify, you are currently counted as a citizens of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA which is a corporate figure-head for the world bankers.
    This is a complicated issue, but check your state for a local “Republic of (my state)” chapter and begin your real History education.

    The current government of the US is illegitimate according to the original Constitution of the United States. Which happens to include a very different version of the 13th Amendment that prohibited lawyers from holding elected office. In case you are wondering, that amendment was mysteriously changed without consent of the states after the Civil War. They have been stealing your liberties since the Civil war. Wake up and see the solution.

    • upsidedownjack

      Not many even know about the REAL 13 Amendment! And even less would understand the reason it was not “passed/found”!

      Think, 1913 Federal Bank! Quote: I care Not for your Politicos, if I OWN the BANK, I OWN the COUNTRY! Thanks Progressive’s, the WAR is now at your DOOR!

    • upsidedownjack

      Not many even know about the REAL 13 Amendment! And even less would understand the reason it was not “passed/found”!

      Think, 1913 Federal Bank! Quote: I care Not for your Politicos, if I OWN the BANK, I OWN the COUNTRY! Thanks Progressive’s, the WAR is now at your DOOR!

    • upsidedownjack

      Not many even know about the REAL 13 Amendment! And even less would understand the reason it was not “passed/found”!

      Think, 1913 Federal Bank! Quote: I care Not for your Politicos, if I OWN the BANK, I OWN the COUNTRY! Thanks Progressive’s, the WAR is now at your DOOR!

    • upsidedownjack

      Not many even know about the REAL 13 Amendment! And even less would understand the reason it was not “passed/found”!

      Think, 1913 Federal Bank! Quote: I care Not for your Politicos, if I OWN the BANK, I OWN the COUNTRY! Thanks Progressive’s, the WAR is now at your DOOR!

  • Willi Wonka

    We need to actively re-occupy the United States of America. The Republic established in 1787. To clarify, you are currently counted as a citizens of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA which is a corporate figure-head for the world bankers.
    This is a complicated issue, but check your state for a local “Republic of (my state)” chapter and begin your real History education.

    The current government of the US is illegitimate according to the original Constitution of the United States. Which happens to include a very different version of the 13th Amendment that prohibited lawyers from holding elected office. In case you are wondering, that amendment was mysteriously changed without consent of the states after the Civil War. They have been stealing your liberties since the Civil war. Wake up and see the solution.

  • Willi Wonka

    We need to actively re-occupy the United States of America. The Republic established in 1787. To clarify, you are currently counted as a citizens of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA which is a corporate figure-head for the world bankers.
    This is a complicated issue, but check your state for a local “Republic of (my state)” chapter and begin your real History education.

    The current government of the US is illegitimate according to the original Constitution of the United States. Which happens to include a very different version of the 13th Amendment that prohibited lawyers from holding elected office. In case you are wondering, that amendment was mysteriously changed without consent of the states after the Civil War. They have been stealing your liberties since the Civil war. Wake up and see the solution.

  • RLM357

    “A Brand new Army (DHS) with a Nefarious purpose.” Outstanding comment. During his Campaign Comrade Obama said that it was his intent to form a Civilian Army larger than the Military. Well Good P{eople, it is here! Obama thought he coukld sneak the purchase of Ammunition through innocuous Departments like NOAA. What is NOAA going to do… shoot Turtles? As a former LEO let me again state that NO Agency uses Armor Piercing and Hollow Point Ammo for Target Practice! Instead ‘reloads’ and “Wad Cutters” are used. (clean holes in targets for scoring). Lower grain and loads are also used to extend the life of the weapon. Hollow points are used to KILL! So now Dictastor Obama has fulfilled his Dreams We as FREE PEOPLE have a decission to make. Do WE Defend Our Country or aquies into the slavery of Communism? Jefferson got it right! I am a Patriot, a Veteran, and a Christian. Not a Pacifist, and Deffinately Not a Communist! God Bless the USA and protect us from TYRANNY and Subversion from within. To make it easier for Big Brother, I am … ~Rick Magee, FL

  • RLM357

    “A Brand new Army (DHS) with a Nefarious purpose.” Outstanding comment. During his Campaign Comrade Obama said that it was his intent to form a Civilian Army larger than the Military. Well Good P{eople, it is here! Obama thought he coukld sneak the purchase of Ammunition through innocuous Departments like NOAA. What is NOAA going to do… shoot Turtles? As a former LEO let me again state that NO Agency uses Armor Piercing and Hollow Point Ammo for Target Practice! Instead ‘reloads’ and “Wad Cutters” are used. (clean holes in targets for scoring). Lower grain and loads are also used to extend the life of the weapon. Hollow points are used to KILL! So now Dictastor Obama has fulfilled his Dreams We as FREE PEOPLE have a decission to make. Do WE Defend Our Country or aquies into the slavery of Communism? Jefferson got it right! I am a Patriot, a Veteran, and a Christian. Not a Pacifist, and Deffinately Not a Communist! God Bless the USA and protect us from TYRANNY and Subversion from within. To make it easier for Big Brother, I am … ~Rick Magee, FL

    • Brooklynresident

      Good point. The TYPE of bullets iS the key here. And the press continues to ignore ALL of this. Since I came to New York (jobs dried up where I come from), I have discovered the astonishing truth that many folks are content with money for liquor, dining out, and a room with a “view” –of enormous piles of concrete and glass. You know, the big city. For this pittance, they betray those to whom they owe no loyalty-, for the press is an insular club that really sees themselves as somehow wise and witty, above it all. Never any aid from that quarter, unless it’s accidental.

    • Brooklynresident

      Good point. The TYPE of bullets iS the key here. And the press continues to ignore ALL of this. Since I came to New York (jobs dried up where I come from), I have discovered the astonishing truth that many folks are content with money for liquor, dining out, and a room with a “view” –of enormous piles of concrete and glass. You know, the big city. For this pittance, they betray those to whom they owe no loyalty-, for the press is an insular club that really sees themselves as somehow wise and witty, above it all. Never any aid from that quarter, unless it’s accidental.

    • Brooklynresident

      Good point. The TYPE of bullets iS the key here. And the press continues to ignore ALL of this. Since I came to New York (jobs dried up where I come from), I have discovered the astonishing truth that many folks are content with money for liquor, dining out, and a room with a “view” –of enormous piles of concrete and glass. You know, the big city. For this pittance, they betray those to whom they owe no loyalty-, for the press is an insular club that really sees themselves as somehow wise and witty, above it all. Never any aid from that quarter, unless it’s accidental.

    • SmithWinston6478

      “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” – barack hussein sotero/obama

      In Nazi Deutschland, it was called ‘The Gestapo’.

    • SmithWinston6478

      “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” – barack hussein sotero/obama

      In Nazi Deutschland, it was called ‘The Gestapo’.

    • SmithWinston6478

      “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” – barack hussein sotero/obama

      In Nazi Deutschland, it was called ‘The Gestapo’.

    • SmithWinston6478

      “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” – barack hussein sotero/obama

      In Nazi Deutschland, it was called ‘The Gestapo’.

  • RLM357

    “A Brand new Army (DHS) with a Nefarious purpose.” Outstanding comment. During his Campaign Comrade Obama said that it was his intent to form a Civilian Army larger than the Military. Well Good P{eople, it is here! Obama thought he coukld sneak the purchase of Ammunition through innocuous Departments like NOAA. What is NOAA going to do… shoot Turtles? As a former LEO let me again state that NO Agency uses Armor Piercing and Hollow Point Ammo for Target Practice! Instead ‘reloads’ and “Wad Cutters” are used. (clean holes in targets for scoring). Lower grain and loads are also used to extend the life of the weapon. Hollow points are used to KILL! So now Dictastor Obama has fulfilled his Dreams We as FREE PEOPLE have a decission to make. Do WE Defend Our Country or aquies into the slavery of Communism? Jefferson got it right! I am a Patriot, a Veteran, and a Christian. Not a Pacifist, and Deffinately Not a Communist! God Bless the USA and protect us from TYRANNY and Subversion from within. To make it easier for Big Brother, I am … ~Rick Magee, FL

  • RLM357

    “A Brand new Army (DHS) with a Nefarious purpose.” Outstanding comment. During his Campaign Comrade Obama said that it was his intent to form a Civilian Army larger than the Military. Well Good P{eople, it is here! Obama thought he coukld sneak the purchase of Ammunition through innocuous Departments like NOAA. What is NOAA going to do… shoot Turtles? As a former LEO let me again state that NO Agency uses Armor Piercing and Hollow Point Ammo for Target Practice! Instead ‘reloads’ and “Wad Cutters” are used. (clean holes in targets for scoring). Lower grain and loads are also used to extend the life of the weapon. Hollow points are used to KILL! So now Dictastor Obama has fulfilled his Dreams We as FREE PEOPLE have a decission to make. Do WE Defend Our Country or aquies into the slavery of Communism? Jefferson got it right! I am a Patriot, a Veteran, and a Christian. Not a Pacifist, and Deffinately Not a Communist! God Bless the USA and protect us from TYRANNY and Subversion from within. To make it easier for Big Brother, I am … ~Rick Magee, FL

  • Robert Garner

    Y’all are called and raised. I have never served which doesn’t mean that I won’t or can’t,and I am younger than most here apparently +I am a pretty good shot.

    I was raised to seek out a policeman when in trouble,so why do I fear them now?

    I have no fear of our military yet,save that I am a Christian,a Patriot and remain

    (cling to) our Constitution and BOR, so am thrice damned by our .Gov
    robert

  • Robert Garner

    Y’all are called and raised. I have never served which doesn’t mean that I won’t or can’t,and I am younger than most here apparently +I am a pretty good shot.

    I was raised to seek out a policeman when in trouble,so why do I fear them now?

    I have no fear of our military yet,save that I am a Christian,a Patriot and remain

    (cling to) our Constitution and BOR, so am thrice damned by our .Gov
    robert

  • Robert Garner

    Y’all are called and raised. I have never served which doesn’t mean that I won’t or can’t,and I am younger than most here apparently +I am a pretty good shot.

    I was raised to seek out a policeman when in trouble,so why do I fear them now?

    I have no fear of our military yet,save that I am a Christian,a Patriot and remain

    (cling to) our Constitution and BOR, so am thrice damned by our .Gov
    robert

  • Robert Garner

    Y’all are called and raised. I have never served which doesn’t mean that I won’t or can’t,and I am younger than most here apparently +I am a pretty good shot.

    I was raised to seek out a policeman when in trouble,so why do I fear them now?

    I have no fear of our military yet,save that I am a Christian,a Patriot and remain

    (cling to) our Constitution and BOR, so am thrice damned by our .Gov
    robert

  • ThomPaineJr12

    It’s really funny how paranoid right wingers are, and how they talk about the federal government as if it’s a foreign nation, and rant about an uprising against it.

    • Marlin208

      YAWN

    • Marlin208

      YAWN

    • Marlin208

      YAWN

    • Brooklynresident

      It is foreign to the Founders. And Obama has sworn himself our enemy–and an enemy of Freedom. It is one thing to watch Mel Gibson portray Robert the Bruce, and shout “FREEDOM!” in a bar after five tequila shots. It is another to coldly consider

      What WILL you do when the lights go out, the Obamaphones stop working, and those hordes come pouring out of the projects because the water has stopped running, and all the bodegas are out of beer? Then the Government comes to order you out, with only what they will allow you to carry (searched first, of course) –or gas you out, if you refuse.

      And they’ll send EVERYONE to some camp that will make Joe Arpaio’s “terrible” prison camps look like PARADISE by comparison.

      Obama, Holder. Alinskey and Emmanuel. Pelosi, Reid, and Biden. These clowns are your masters. And they will never let a crisis go to waste.

      Even if they have to manufacture one.

      • Marlin208

        Don’t even try and reason with him, he is a troll.

        • Brooklynresident

          That’s okay. Guys like him give me an excuse to rant. I also have the opportunity to make him pee his pants…

          If one has any rational thought processing ability, that is…

        • Brooklynresident

          That’s okay. Guys like him give me an excuse to rant. I also have the opportunity to make him pee his pants…

          If one has any rational thought processing ability, that is…

      • ThomPaineJr12

        Your paranoid delusions are quite detailed.

    • Brooklynresident

      It is foreign to the Founders. And Obama has sworn himself our enemy–and an enemy of Freedom. It is one thing to watch Mel Gibson portray Robert the Bruce, and shout “FREEDOM!” in a bar after five tequila shots. It is another to coldly consider

      What WILL you do when the lights go out, the Obamaphones stop working, and those hordes come pouring out of the projects because the water has stopped running, and all the bodegas are out of beer? Then the Government comes to order you out, with only what they will allow you to carry (searched first, of course) –or gas you out, if you refuse.

      And they’ll send EVERYONE to some camp that will make Joe Arpaio’s “terrible” prison camps look like PARADISE by comparison.

      Obama, Holder. Alinskey and Emmanuel. Pelosi, Reid, and Biden. These clowns are your masters. And they will never let a crisis go to waste.

      Even if they have to manufacture one.

    • Brooklynresident

      It is foreign to the Founders. And Obama has sworn himself our enemy–and an enemy of Freedom. It is one thing to watch Mel Gibson portray Robert the Bruce, and shout “FREEDOM!” in a bar after five tequila shots. It is another to coldly consider

      What WILL you do when the lights go out, the Obamaphones stop working, and those hordes come pouring out of the projects because the water has stopped running, and all the bodegas are out of beer? Then the Government comes to order you out, with only what they will allow you to carry (searched first, of course) –or gas you out, if you refuse.

      And they’ll send EVERYONE to some camp that will make Joe Arpaio’s “terrible” prison camps look like PARADISE by comparison.

      Obama, Holder. Alinskey and Emmanuel. Pelosi, Reid, and Biden. These clowns are your masters. And they will never let a crisis go to waste.

      Even if they have to manufacture one.

    • Brooklynresident

      It is foreign to the Founders. And Obama has sworn himself our enemy–and an enemy of Freedom. It is one thing to watch Mel Gibson portray Robert the Bruce, and shout “FREEDOM!” in a bar after five tequila shots. It is another to coldly consider

      What WILL you do when the lights go out, the Obamaphones stop working, and those hordes come pouring out of the projects because the water has stopped running, and all the bodegas are out of beer? Then the Government comes to order you out, with only what they will allow you to carry (searched first, of course) –or gas you out, if you refuse.

      And they’ll send EVERYONE to some camp that will make Joe Arpaio’s “terrible” prison camps look like PARADISE by comparison.

      Obama, Holder. Alinskey and Emmanuel. Pelosi, Reid, and Biden. These clowns are your masters. And they will never let a crisis go to waste.

      Even if they have to manufacture one.

    • Alan Patrick

      You talk about right wingers being paranoid. Well I think you have that backwards. The gun bans are Liberals too scared that someone is going to shoot at them. If they would actually do the jobs they were put into office to do, enforce the laws now on the books, things in this country wouldn’t be so bad. They take any shooting and make it out as being a disaster. I am not saying the shootings are bad but there are more deaths caused every year not from shootings and it never gets the coverage. Will American soldiers fire on it’s own people? I would say some will but if they follow their oath they swore to defend I would have to say not a chance.

    • SmithWinston6478

      “It also gives us a very special, secret pleasure to see how unaware the people around us are of what is really happening to them.” ~ Adolf Hitler

    • Breeze13

      “The duty of a true patriot is to protect his country from it’s government.” – Thomas Paine.
      The REAL Thomas Paine!

    • Breeze13

      “The duty of a true patriot is to protect his country from it’s government.” – Thomas Paine.
      The REAL Thomas Paine!

    • Breeze13

      “The duty of a true patriot is to protect his country from it’s government.” – Thomas Paine.
      The REAL Thomas Paine!

    • Breeze13

      “The duty of a true patriot is to protect his country from it’s government.” – Thomas Paine.
      The REAL Thomas Paine!

  • ThomPaineJr12

    It’s really funny how paranoid right wingers are, and how they talk about the federal government as if it’s a foreign nation, and rant about an uprising against it.

  • ThomPaineJr12

    It’s really funny how paranoid right wingers are, and how they talk about the federal government as if it’s a foreign nation, and rant about an uprising against it.

  • ThomPaineJr12

    It’s really funny how paranoid right wingers are, and how they talk about the federal government as if it’s a foreign nation, and rant about an uprising against it.

  • Socialism: Organized Evil

    There are three main attack vectors that the neo-marxist left uses in their war against Western civilization:

    1. Attacking private property
    2. Attacking the family
    3. Attacking Christianity

    Know Thy Enemy.

    • upsidedownjack

      Aim True. Shoot True!

      • Marlin208

        One shot, one kill.

    • upsidedownjack

      Aim True. Shoot True!

    • upsidedownjack

      Aim True. Shoot True!

    • upsidedownjack

      Aim True. Shoot True!

    • SmithWinston6478

      “Give me control of a nation’s money supply, and I care not who makes the laws.” – Mayer Amschel Rothschild

      “Lenin was certainly right, there is no more positive, or subtle means of destroying the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency.” – John Maynard Keynes

      “There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.” – John Adams 1826

  • Socialism: Organized Evil

    There are three main attack vectors that the neo-marxist left uses in their war against Western civilization:

    1. Attacking private property
    2. Attacking the family
    3. Attacking Christianity

    Know Thy Enemy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/robert.l.rice.31 Robert L. Rice

    I really believe MOST US Military WILL NOT fire on Americans,However,there are always a few,that cant think for themselves. those are the ones we need to look out for.keep your guns locked and loaded,and stored WHERE BIG BROTHER (oreos goons) cant find them,then we have to find out where the drones are,we have to take them out ON THE GROUND…

  • http://www.facebook.com/robert.l.rice.31 Robert L. Rice

    I really believe MOST US Military WILL NOT fire on Americans,However,there are always a few,that cant think for themselves. those are the ones we need to look out for.keep your guns locked and loaded,and stored WHERE BIG BROTHER (oreos goons) cant find them,then we have to find out where the drones are,we have to take them out ON THE GROUND…

  • John Douglas

    I’m certain that UN troops will!

  • John Douglas

    I’m certain that UN troops will!

  • John Douglas

    I’m certain that UN troops will!

  • Douglas Moore

    I’m ready to leave this planet to be with Jesus but before I go I will try my best to live for Him and resist tyranny. Share the Gospel. God doesn’t want people to go to Hell and without Jesus, that’s where they’re headed. Don’t be a slave either. Make your shots count, reload quick, keep moving, shoot from cover. I’d rather die that way than be tortured or gassed. Take this country back for God and decent folks. Did our ancestors fight and die for nothing?

  • Douglas Moore

    I’m ready to leave this planet to be with Jesus but before I go I will try my best to live for Him and resist tyranny. Share the Gospel. God doesn’t want people to go to Hell and without Jesus, that’s where they’re headed. Don’t be a slave either. Make your shots count, reload quick, keep moving, shoot from cover. I’d rather die that way than be tortured or gassed. Take this country back for God and decent folks. Did our ancestors fight and die for nothing?

  • Douglas Moore

    I’m ready to leave this planet to be with Jesus but before I go I will try my best to live for Him and resist tyranny. Share the Gospel. God doesn’t want people to go to Hell and without Jesus, that’s where they’re headed. Don’t be a slave either. Make your shots count, reload quick, keep moving, shoot from cover. I’d rather die that way than be tortured or gassed. Take this country back for God and decent folks. Did our ancestors fight and die for nothing?

  • Douglas Moore

    I’m ready to leave this planet to be with Jesus but before I go I will try my best to live for Him and resist tyranny. Share the Gospel. God doesn’t want people to go to Hell and without Jesus, that’s where they’re headed. Don’t be a slave either. Make your shots count, reload quick, keep moving, shoot from cover. I’d rather die that way than be tortured or gassed. Take this country back for God and decent folks. Did our ancestors fight and die for nothing?

  • http://www.capalert.com/ Medic01

    The answer is clear, Skip. There are more than 75 million gun owners in America with more than 300 million firearms distributed among them. That has not changed since WWII when the Japanese emperor Yamamoto said he would not attack our shores because “there is a rifle behind every blade of grass.” Barackhole Hellsent Obamao could not hope to win a war with We the People even with all the technology and forces that *might* be placed at his command. In addition, hundreds of sheriffs across the nation have vowed to arrest and jail any agents who come to their counties to confiscate firearms in violation of the US Constitution. Some states have or are implementing laws to nullify Federal edicts that violate the US Constitution. More than half of the states have threatened to succeed from the Union. On top of that, it has been reported that of all the military and law enforcement personnel asked, the general response is that they would NOT fire on American citizens. If ObaMao forces his anti-Constitutional hand, there will most likely be the 2nd American Revolution. If that happens he will lose. And he knows it, which is why he is doing back-door antics to get his hands on our guns.

    • Brooklynresident

      Like the UN treaty. Yet we don’t throw the trash out.

    • Brooklynresident

      Like the UN treaty. Yet we don’t throw the trash out.

  • http://www.capalert.com/ Medic01

    The answer is clear, Skip. There are more than 75 million gun owners in America with more than 300 million firearms distributed among them. That has not changed since WWII when the Japanese emperor Yamamoto said he would not attack our shores because “there is a rifle behind every blade of grass.” Barackhole Hellsent Obamao could not hope to win a war with We the People even with all the technology and forces that *might* be placed at his command. In addition, hundreds of sheriffs across the nation have vowed to arrest and jail any agents who come to their counties to confiscate firearms in violation of the US Constitution. Some states have or are implementing laws to nullify Federal edicts that violate the US Constitution. More than half of the states have threatened to succeed from the Union. On top of that, it has been reported that of all the military and law enforcement personnel asked, the general response is that they would NOT fire on American citizens. If ObaMao forces his anti-Constitutional hand, there will most likely be the 2nd American Revolution. If that happens he will lose. And he knows it, which is why he is doing back-door antics to get his hands on our guns.

  • http://www.capalert.com/ Medic01

    The answer is clear, Skip. There are more than 75 million gun owners in America with more than 300 million firearms distributed among them. That has not changed since WWII when the Japanese emperor Yamamoto said he would not attack our shores because “there is a rifle behind every blade of grass.” Barackhole Hellsent Obamao could not hope to win a war with We the People even with all the technology and forces that *might* be placed at his command. In addition, hundreds of sheriffs across the nation have vowed to arrest and jail any agents who come to their counties to confiscate firearms in violation of the US Constitution. Some states have or are implementing laws to nullify Federal edicts that violate the US Constitution. More than half of the states have threatened to succeed from the Union. On top of that, it has been reported that of all the military and law enforcement personnel asked, the general response is that they would NOT fire on American citizens. If ObaMao forces his anti-Constitutional hand, there will most likely be the 2nd American Revolution. If that happens he will lose. And he knows it, which is why he is doing back-door antics to get his hands on our guns.

  • http://www.capalert.com/ Medic01

    The answer is clear, Skip. There are more than 75 million gun owners in America with more than 300 million firearms distributed among them. That has not changed since WWII when the Japanese emperor Yamamoto said he would not attack our shores because “there is a rifle behind every blade of grass.” Barackhole Hellsent Obamao could not hope to win a war with We the People even with all the technology and forces that *might* be placed at his command. In addition, hundreds of sheriffs across the nation have vowed to arrest and jail any agents who come to their counties to confiscate firearms in violation of the US Constitution. Some states have or are implementing laws to nullify Federal edicts that violate the US Constitution. More than half of the states have threatened to succeed from the Union. On top of that, it has been reported that of all the military and law enforcement personnel asked, the general response is that they would NOT fire on American citizens. If ObaMao forces his anti-Constitutional hand, there will most likely be the 2nd American Revolution. If that happens he will lose. And he knows it, which is why he is doing back-door antics to get his hands on our guns.

  • harrison j. bounel

    the viet cong didnt win. they were dead after tet in 1968 and the north regular army came into play. after the accords of 72, we were gone by 73. peace accords were in place and the north army left back to the north. congress cut off funding of bullets to the south army we had trained, and the north took note, and re invaded, tearing up the peace accord. they won in a breeze as the south army was bulletless. thank the american congress for wasting the blood of 58k+ americans and throwing a win away. same with iraq and next is afghanistan. why would anyone want their sons to fight for america, as you cant trust your politicians to do the right thing by them

    • irish8787

      Thay sold us out then and thay will do it again

    • irish8787

      Thay sold us out then and thay will do it again

    • irish8787

      Thay sold us out then and thay will do it again

    • irish8787

      Thay sold us out then and thay will do it again

  • harrison j. bounel

    the viet cong didnt win. they were dead after tet in 1968 and the north regular army came into play. after the accords of 72, we were gone by 73. peace accords were in place and the north army left back to the north. congress cut off funding of bullets to the south army we had trained, and the north took note, and re invaded, tearing up the peace accord. they won in a breeze as the south army was bulletless. thank the american congress for wasting the blood of 58k+ americans and throwing a win away. same with iraq and next is afghanistan. why would anyone want their sons to fight for america, as you cant trust your politicians to do the right thing by them

  • harrison j. bounel

    the viet cong didnt win. they were dead after tet in 1968 and the north regular army came into play. after the accords of 72, we were gone by 73. peace accords were in place and the north army left back to the north. congress cut off funding of bullets to the south army we had trained, and the north took note, and re invaded, tearing up the peace accord. they won in a breeze as the south army was bulletless. thank the american congress for wasting the blood of 58k+ americans and throwing a win away. same with iraq and next is afghanistan. why would anyone want their sons to fight for america, as you cant trust your politicians to do the right thing by them

  • tr60

    This is irresponsible talk

  • tr60

    This is irresponsible talk

  • tr60

    This is irresponsible talk

  • tr60

    This is irresponsible talk

  • SmithWinston6478

    Regarding the headline question… Of course they would ! Doesn’t anybody remember Kent State? Doesn’t anybody remember: ‘Nicht Gultige! I was only following orders!’ Enlisted soldiers are trained to do as they are told without question, and many Field Grade Officers near the end of their careers won’t endanger their retirements.

    “It also gives us a very special, secret pleasure to see how unaware the people
    around us are of what is really happening to them.” ~ Adolf Hitler

    • irish8787

      And if thay do we will fire back the same as the 1700′s

      • SmithWinston6478

        Irish, We could not contest the force or technology that cold be brought against us. Too many sheep voted with their hands out to the wolves. Vote fraud at the national level did the rest.

        “A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.” ~ Edward R. Murrow

        • irish8787

          The Same As The V.C. Done to Us And We Had the Technology Back Then!! Hit And Run

  • SmithWinston6478

    Regarding the headline question… Of course they would ! Doesn’t anybody remember Kent State? Doesn’t anybody remember: ‘Nicht Gultige! I was only following orders!’ Enlisted soldiers are trained to do as they are told without question, and many Field Grade Officers near the end of their careers won’t endanger their retirements.

    “It also gives us a very special, secret pleasure to see how unaware the people
    around us are of what is really happening to them.” ~ Adolf Hitler

  • SmithWinston6478

    Regarding the headline question… Of course they would ! Doesn’t anybody remember Kent State? Doesn’t anybody remember: ‘Nicht Gultige! I was only following orders!’ Enlisted soldiers are trained to do as they are told without question, and many Field Grade Officers near the end of their careers won’t endanger their retirements.

    “It also gives us a very special, secret pleasure to see how unaware the people
    around us are of what is really happening to them.” ~ Adolf Hitler

  • Carl Stevenson

    The tyrants in the Obama regime and their bankster, globalist cronies are getting ready for the collapse that they’ve deliberately created as an excuse to try to grab total control. It won’t work. There is a growing push towards resistance, and it is not constrained to the fringes – the first mistake the tyrants in DC make is to assume that.
    Practically every militarily significant weapon made in the last 100 years has sold. 4.6 million weapon sales in 30 days and empty ammo shelves is not a panic – it’s battlespace preparation.
    The second mistake they make is to try to assert that this trend is about racism because Obama is half-black. That’s a cop-out used to demonize and divide – It’s an easy excuse to ignore another person’s points, and justify doing bad things to them; it’s an attempt to convince people that those who oppose the regime’s policies and actions are evil or deranged.
    Their final mistake is to assume that the military and law enforcement agencies will follow orders to disarm their fellow Americans. The military and police are a sub-section of the total population, and will break along the same ideological lines.
    Some police and military members will follow orders. Many, probably most, will disobey, desert, and rebel against orders to attack, imprison, or murder their families, neighbors, and fellow patriots to prop up a corrupt and tyrannical regime.
    This has been played out time and time again in human history.
    Statist politicians should not assume an insurrection will end easily, nor that those they’ve demonized will go quietly into the dark night, nor that they personally will not suffer if it blows up.
    Never let your government disarm you and render you defenseless against their excesses.
    It will be up to the American people to solve the problems the tyrants and banksters have created as a means to steal our wealth and strip us of our liberty.
    After the tyrants are removed from power, they and their partners in crimes against the Constitution and the American people need to be tried in a modern day version of the Nuremberg Trials, here on American soil, by American citizens who are loyal to the Constitution, then punished according to their crimes. Treason is punishable by death. Keep the faith, justice will ultimately be served.

    • garysvent

      All they have to do is shut off the energy and water supply, interrupt food deliveries, and wait out starvation, freezing, and dehydration. A very large segment of the population lives in cities where this tactic would be effective.

      In flyover country, they just fly over. They don’t care, because they don’t have to. We have given too many tasks to government, and now we are enslaved already by their control of necessities. Most people do not know how to live without the modern things of civilization around them.

    • garysvent

      All they have to do is shut off the energy and water supply, interrupt food deliveries, and wait out starvation, freezing, and dehydration. A very large segment of the population lives in cities where this tactic would be effective.

      In flyover country, they just fly over. They don’t care, because they don’t have to. We have given too many tasks to government, and now we are enslaved already by their control of necessities. Most people do not know how to live without the modern things of civilization around them.

    • Brooklynresident

      The treatment of the police and fireman community at breezy point, in the hurricane’s aftermath, shows how “well” the government cares for “its own.” Many have families, but most don’t serve where they work. Were I a cop, I would think long and HARD on this. I do not envy them.

    • Brooklynresident

      The treatment of the police and fireman community at breezy point, in the hurricane’s aftermath, shows how “well” the government cares for “its own.” Many have families, but most don’t serve where they work. Were I a cop, I would think long and HARD on this. I do not envy them.

  • Carl Stevenson

    The tyrants in the Obama regime and their bankster, globalist cronies are getting ready for the collapse that they’ve deliberately created as an excuse to try to grab total control. It won’t work. There is a growing push towards resistance, and it is not constrained to the fringes – the first mistake the tyrants in DC make is to assume that.
    Practically every militarily significant weapon made in the last 100 years has sold. 4.6 million weapon sales in 30 days and empty ammo shelves is not a panic – it’s battlespace preparation.
    The second mistake they make is to try to assert that this trend is about racism because Obama is half-black. That’s a cop-out used to demonize and divide – It’s an easy excuse to ignore another person’s points, and justify doing bad things to them; it’s an attempt to convince people that those who oppose the regime’s policies and actions are evil or deranged.
    Their final mistake is to assume that the military and law enforcement agencies will follow orders to disarm their fellow Americans. The military and police are a sub-section of the total population, and will break along the same ideological lines.
    Some police and military members will follow orders. Many, probably most, will disobey, desert, and rebel against orders to attack, imprison, or murder their families, neighbors, and fellow patriots to prop up a corrupt and tyrannical regime.
    This has been played out time and time again in human history.
    Statist politicians should not assume an insurrection will end easily, nor that those they’ve demonized will go quietly into the dark night, nor that they personally will not suffer if it blows up.
    Never let your government disarm you and render you defenseless against their excesses.
    It will be up to the American people to solve the problems the tyrants and banksters have created as a means to steal our wealth and strip us of our liberty.
    After the tyrants are removed from power, they and their partners in crimes against the Constitution and the American people need to be tried in a modern day version of the Nuremberg Trials, here on American soil, by American citizens who are loyal to the Constitution, then punished according to their crimes. Treason is punishable by death. Keep the faith, justice will ultimately be served.

  • Carl Stevenson

    The tyrants in the Obama regime and their bankster, globalist cronies are getting ready for the collapse that they’ve deliberately created as an excuse to try to grab total control. It won’t work. There is a growing push towards resistance, and it is not constrained to the fringes – the first mistake the tyrants in DC make is to assume that.
    Practically every militarily significant weapon made in the last 100 years has sold. 4.6 million weapon sales in 30 days and empty ammo shelves is not a panic – it’s battlespace preparation.
    The second mistake they make is to try to assert that this trend is about racism because Obama is half-black. That’s a cop-out used to demonize and divide – It’s an easy excuse to ignore another person’s points, and justify doing bad things to them; it’s an attempt to convince people that those who oppose the regime’s policies and actions are evil or deranged.
    Their final mistake is to assume that the military and law enforcement agencies will follow orders to disarm their fellow Americans. The military and police are a sub-section of the total population, and will break along the same ideological lines.
    Some police and military members will follow orders. Many, probably most, will disobey, desert, and rebel against orders to attack, imprison, or murder their families, neighbors, and fellow patriots to prop up a corrupt and tyrannical regime.
    This has been played out time and time again in human history.
    Statist politicians should not assume an insurrection will end easily, nor that those they’ve demonized will go quietly into the dark night, nor that they personally will not suffer if it blows up.
    Never let your government disarm you and render you defenseless against their excesses.
    It will be up to the American people to solve the problems the tyrants and banksters have created as a means to steal our wealth and strip us of our liberty.
    After the tyrants are removed from power, they and their partners in crimes against the Constitution and the American people need to be tried in a modern day version of the Nuremberg Trials, here on American soil, by American citizens who are loyal to the Constitution, then punished according to their crimes. Treason is punishable by death. Keep the faith, justice will ultimately be served.

  • Hagar

    Obama and his folks are well prepared, How prepared are we?? People need to seek out leaders who have guerrilla warfare experience and have led before. It is so sad to see the nation that so many have died to keep it free being destroyed by these people , who are doing it with your dollars.

    • irish8787

      We are Prepared .That is what thay worry about

  • Hagar

    Obama and his folks are well prepared, How prepared are we?? People need to seek out leaders who have guerrilla warfare experience and have led before. It is so sad to see the nation that so many have died to keep it free being destroyed by these people , who are doing it with your dollars.

  • Hagar

    Obama and his folks are well prepared, How prepared are we?? People need to seek out leaders who have guerrilla warfare experience and have led before. It is so sad to see the nation that so many have died to keep it free being destroyed by these people , who are doing it with your dollars.

  • Brooklynresident

    Want to really Piss of the press? Create a new video game, like a Tour Of Duty. Call I it Homeland Security. Let folks play either side of it. “Clearing Projects” scenario, “Isolated Nut Job (Urban Siege)” scenario, “Cartel Sniper”and “Door To Door Suspect Search” scenarios could all be features. A bonus would be “Presidential Potemkin Motorcade Detail” for those rare times the Lord deigns to pass up golf to met his Subjects. Forgot–Golf Course Sniper Patrol-, to keep His Majesty safe…

  • Brooklynresident

    Want to really Piss of the press? Create a new video game, like a Tour Of Duty. Call I it Homeland Security. Let folks play either side of it. “Clearing Projects” scenario, “Isolated Nut Job (Urban Siege)” scenario, “Cartel Sniper”and “Door To Door Suspect Search” scenarios could all be features. A bonus would be “Presidential Potemkin Motorcade Detail” for those rare times the Lord deigns to pass up golf to met his Subjects. Forgot–Golf Course Sniper Patrol-, to keep His Majesty safe…

  • Brooklynresident

    Want to really Piss of the press? Create a new video game, like a Tour Of Duty. Call I it Homeland Security. Let folks play either side of it. “Clearing Projects” scenario, “Isolated Nut Job (Urban Siege)” scenario, “Cartel Sniper”and “Door To Door Suspect Search” scenarios could all be features. A bonus would be “Presidential Potemkin Motorcade Detail” for those rare times the Lord deigns to pass up golf to met his Subjects. Forgot–Golf Course Sniper Patrol-, to keep His Majesty safe…

  • Brooklynresident

    Want to really Piss of the press? Create a new video game, like a Tour Of Duty. Call I it Homeland Security. Let folks play either side of it. “Clearing Projects” scenario, “Isolated Nut Job (Urban Siege)” scenario, “Cartel Sniper”and “Door To Door Suspect Search” scenarios could all be features. A bonus would be “Presidential Potemkin Motorcade Detail” for those rare times the Lord deigns to pass up golf to met his Subjects. Forgot–Golf Course Sniper Patrol-, to keep His Majesty safe…

  • TexRanger

    The federal government would be defeated very easily. As you recall, George W. Bush entered into an agreement with Canada to send troops into America to put down insurrections if the U.S. troops refused to fire on Americans. I am told by Canadian friends that Canadian troops will NOT fire on Americans and would refuse to obey any order to do so.

  • TexRanger

    The federal government would be defeated very easily. As you recall, George W. Bush entered into an agreement with Canada to send troops into America to put down insurrections if the U.S. troops refused to fire on Americans. I am told by Canadian friends that Canadian troops will NOT fire on Americans and would refuse to obey any order to do so.

    • Brooklynresident

      They know there would be reciprocity–Americans sent to Canada. I hope our boys show the same restraint.

    • Brooklynresident

      They know there would be reciprocity–Americans sent to Canada. I hope our boys show the same restraint.

    • Brooklynresident

      They know there would be reciprocity–Americans sent to Canada. I hope our boys show the same restraint.

    • Brooklynresident

      They know there would be reciprocity–Americans sent to Canada. I hope our boys show the same restraint.

  • TexRanger

    The federal government would be defeated very easily. As you recall, George W. Bush entered into an agreement with Canada to send troops into America to put down insurrections if the U.S. troops refused to fire on Americans. I am told by Canadian friends that Canadian troops will NOT fire on Americans and would refuse to obey any order to do so.

  • TexRanger

    The federal government would be defeated very easily. As you recall, George W. Bush entered into an agreement with Canada to send troops into America to put down insurrections if the U.S. troops refused to fire on Americans. I am told by Canadian friends that Canadian troops will NOT fire on Americans and would refuse to obey any order to do so.

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  • Cathy

    Old guys rule.

  • Cathy

    Old guys rule.

  • Cathy

    Old guys rule.

  • oldguy199

    Stock up on pressure cookers, learn gurrilla tactics, IUD’s Poison etc. Get your head straight and accept that YOU and YOUR family will NOT survive. There will be no future for you Accept the fact that you must strap explosives to your 4 yr old daughter and set her off. The type of battle must be like the VC’s attacks–loose all the battles but win the war. Learn how to penitrate the Ivory Castles and destroy them-chip by chip. If they get you-take at least 1 with you. Learn what KAMIKAZI is and plan to do the same. Soft targets are best-kill their moral and you kill them. Politician, General, FBI, leutenant,cop, etc. all have familys- destroy
    If you cannot imagine this scene- give up NOW. Hear a lot of chatter, boasts etc BUT will anyone want to stand–I say a very few ( no more than a 1,000) but most will give up. Want proof-WHY are we in the mess we are in in the first place. We are sheep and will kneel instead of give up our I-Phones

    • C. M. Novess III

      Well said! I’m standing. I teach handgun and concealed carry. I am a III%er and member of a militia. The steeple have done the damage – I want to avoid being hit by the pieces as they back to the ground.

    • C. M. Novess III

      Well said! I’m standing. I teach handgun and concealed carry. I am a III%er and member of a militia. The steeple have done the damage – I want to avoid being hit by the pieces as they back to the ground.

    • C. M. Novess III

      Well said! I’m standing. I teach handgun and concealed carry. I am a III%er and member of a militia. The steeple have done the damage – I want to avoid being hit by the pieces as they back to the ground.

    • C. M. Novess III

      Well said! I’m standing. I teach handgun and concealed carry. I am a III%er and member of a militia. The steeple have done the damage – I want to avoid being hit by the pieces as they back to the ground.

  • smogdew

    This is such a heart warming comment section. No name calling, or ugly responses, just everyone agreeing we love this country and the Constitution and Obama can go to hell and take his cronies with him. The shame to which he’s brought us.
    When you think of the ultrasophisticated electronics, drones etc. – methinks we’ve waited too long – but on the other hand, anything they have, we can get and we have the numbers…….just need someone to implement some arcane plan.

  • smogdew

    This is such a heart warming comment section. No name calling, or ugly responses, just everyone agreeing we love this country and the Constitution and Obama can go to hell and take his cronies with him. The shame to which he’s brought us.
    When you think of the ultrasophisticated electronics, drones etc. – methinks we’ve waited too long – but on the other hand, anything they have, we can get and we have the numbers…….just need someone to implement some arcane plan.

  • drikk

    The British were armed with muskets,which were accurate to 50 yards. The inaccuracy was compensated for by marching abreast and firing in volleys. The colonials were armed with Tennessee long rifles, normally used for hunting. About a foot longer and much more unwieldy to reload. Added several seconds to the reloading process. Meant fewer firings. But accurate out to 200 yards. The colonials thence were at a decided advantage as long as they stayed out of groups and did not get too close to the British. If the colonials maintained rigidity in the last 2 qualifiers, then the Brits had no chance.

  • pduffy

    Well if you are relying on your own strength, you won’t prevail. Do you really think that George Washington prevailed because he had a better army and out-gunned the king? So what they out gun us? If God is on your side, WHO can be against you? And if he is not, it won’t matter anyway.

    • irish8787

      We Will Fight Them The Same Way The V.C. Did Too us

    • irish8787

      We Will Fight Them The Same Way The V.C. Did Too us

  • Sudden_40

    I’m old and have RA. My eyesight is good. I don’t figure I’d last long if the SHTF. I just hope to do my share before I’m gone.

  • harrison j. bounel

    in 1970 at kent state the army national guard fired on college students, killing several and wounding more. so never say never

    • irish8787

      Thay were never told to fire thay did it on there own because of fear

    • irish8787

      Thay were never told to fire thay did it on there own because of fear

  • Rick Rork

    To win, all we must do is cut the head off the snake. How many politicians make up the federal government. Also there will be a rift inside the armed forces themselves with soldier fighting soldier. A greater question is what kind of country do these guys hope to inherit.

  • wvbh17

    The way I see it, being almost 72 and with a heart condition I would not be quality merchandise in the new world order so I figure if the government comes to my house it’s for only one thing. Shoot the old bastard. Now as I said I have a heart condition so I’ll take a quick death from as many bullets as it takes to get through all the ones I’ll be sending their way. Beats dying of a heart attack, struggling for the last breath. No one takes anything from me without paying the price first. This I swear on my oath as a conservative human being.

    • irish8787

      WE Are Part of the walking wonded BUT CAN STILL FIGHT

      • Ed Williams

        Zombies for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!
        Local chapters now forming near you…

        Git ‘er Done!

      • Ed Williams

        Zombies for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!
        Local chapters now forming near you…

        Git ‘er Done!

      • Ed Williams

        Zombies for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!
        Local chapters now forming near you…

        Git ‘er Done!

    • irish8787

      WE Are Part of the walking wonded BUT CAN STILL FIGHT

    • irish8787

      WE Are Part of the walking wonded BUT CAN STILL FIGHT

    • irish8787

      WE Are Part of the walking wonded BUT CAN STILL FIGHT

  • wvbh17

    The way I see it, being almost 72 and with a heart condition I would not be quality merchandise in the new world order so I figure if the government comes to my house it’s for only one thing. Shoot the old bastard. Now as I said I have a heart condition so I’ll take a quick death from as many bullets as it takes to get through all the ones I’ll be sending their way. Beats dying of a heart attack, struggling for the last breath. No one takes anything from me without paying the price first. This I swear on my oath as a conservative human being.

  • wvbh17

    The way I see it, being almost 72 and with a heart condition I would not be quality merchandise in the new world order so I figure if the government comes to my house it’s for only one thing. Shoot the old bastard. Now as I said I have a heart condition so I’ll take a quick death from as many bullets as it takes to get through all the ones I’ll be sending their way. Beats dying of a heart attack, struggling for the last breath. No one takes anything from me without paying the price first. This I swear on my oath as a conservative human being.

  • harrison j. bounel

    belt fed gas powered water cooled 30 caliber……not a lawn mower

    • irish8787

      OK Great

    • irish8787

      OK Great

    • irish8787

      OK Great

    • irish8787

      OK Great

  • harrison j. bounel

    belt fed gas powered water cooled 30 caliber……not a lawn mower

  • harrison j. bounel

    belt fed gas powered water cooled 30 caliber……not a lawn mower

  • spyderdalton

    Lets hope they realize they will be firing on fellow marines… once a marine always a marine.. loyal to whom? Obama and communists? or fellow Marines that stand for freedom? The choice is not that difficult. Lets hope they understand that oath…

  • spyderdalton

    Lets hope they realize they will be firing on fellow marines… once a marine always a marine.. loyal to whom? Obama and communists? or fellow Marines that stand for freedom? The choice is not that difficult. Lets hope they understand that oath…

  • drthomasedavis

    I have my money on the American fighting men and women; they will turn on the government which will be forced to surrender their stockpiles of ammo and other war materiels.We will then have a series of war crimes trials and execute those who fomented the war, Obama, Biden, Schumer, Hagel, Dempsey, Panetta, the Clintons, Reid, Pelosi and on and on and on… Of course Obama could be brought to justice by the Congress over the fiasco called “Benghazigate.” That is the preferred course of action. followed by a public hanging on rhe Mall in Washington.

    • irish8787

      I Am With You 110%

    • irish8787

      I Am With You 110%

    • irish8787

      I Am With You 110%

    • Brooklynresident

      Just deport the bugger back to Kenya. That would be worse than death to him. Dying poor, in obscurity.

    • Brooklynresident

      Just deport the bugger back to Kenya. That would be worse than death to him. Dying poor, in obscurity.

    • Brooklynresident

      Just deport the bugger back to Kenya. That would be worse than death to him. Dying poor, in obscurity.

    • Brooklynresident

      Just deport the bugger back to Kenya. That would be worse than death to him. Dying poor, in obscurity.

  • http://www.capalert.com/ Medic01

    I have been posting to these discussion groups for some time now (750 comments, 4936 votes) but have not before today read of so much courage and patriotism. For those of you who stand with We the People and refuse to get on your knees for anyone but Jesus, I am proud of you and am honored and humbled to commit to standing with you arm[ed] in arm should the SHTF.

    • irish8787

      THANK YOU

    • irish8787

      THANK YOU

    • irish8787

      THANK YOU

  • http://www.capalert.com/ Medic01

    I have been posting to these discussion groups for some time now (750 comments, 4936 votes) but have not before today read of so much courage and patriotism. For those of you who stand with We the People and refuse to get on your knees for anyone but Jesus, I am proud of you and am honored and humbled to commit to standing with you arm[ed] in arm should the SHTF.

  • pduffy

    Since most people were taught in the government-run pro federalist schools, they were not taught that the “Civil War” was indeed American troops firing on American citizens. Well folks, the “Union army”, was the “federal army”, controlled by Lincoln, and he ordered it to attack the south and INVADED it, even though it had peacefully separated. Now one could argue that since the south had seceded, they were no longer American citizens, but I would argue that the south was true America, so it was the federal army and the northern states that were not American citizens, but Roman-style tyrants. So to answer the question, “will American troops fire on American citizens”? History gives the answer , and it’s a resounding YES!

    • Grayzel

      I could not agree more with you Duffy.

    • Grayzel

      I could not agree more with you Duffy.

    • Grayzel

      I could not agree more with you Duffy.

    • Grayzel

      I could not agree more with you Duffy.

    • irish8787

      As I Said Befor We will Fire Back

    • irish8787

      As I Said Befor We will Fire Back

    • irish8787

      As I Said Befor We will Fire Back

    • irish8787

      As I Said Befor We will Fire Back

    • borg

      The south believed in states rights.

    • borg

      The south believed in states rights.

    • ThomPaineJr12

      So the slavery states were the true America, and of course you want to restore the true America?

      • xomerlin

        Thom, do you really believe the north didn’t have slaves? Lincoln only freed the slaves in the south, not the north. but then again you have a very liberal education and refuse to see the truth of what actually happened.

      • xomerlin

        Thom, do you really believe the north didn’t have slaves? Lincoln only freed the slaves in the south, not the north. but then again you have a very liberal education and refuse to see the truth of what actually happened.

        • ThomPaineJr12

          This crock of crap doesn’t merit a serious reply.

        • ThomPaineJr12

          This crock of crap doesn’t merit a serious reply.

        • ThomPaineJr12

          This crock of crap doesn’t merit a serious reply.

      • xomerlin

        Thom, do you really believe the north didn’t have slaves? Lincoln only freed the slaves in the south, not the north. but then again you have a very liberal education and refuse to see the truth of what actually happened.

      • xomerlin

        Thom, do you really believe the north didn’t have slaves? Lincoln only freed the slaves in the south, not the north. but then again you have a very liberal education and refuse to see the truth of what actually happened.

      • pduffy

        So you think the IRS isn’t slavery? The power of the slave master was transferred to the Federal government, the power they LUSTED FOR from the beginning. They decide. WHO is slave and who is not VIA THE TAX CODE. WAKE UP! Oh, and I suppose you didn’t know that the northern states that sided with the feds were allowed to keep their slaves? Lincoln only freed the slaves that were part of the ‘confederacy’. You were clearly taught in government-run schools.

      • pduffy

        So you think the IRS isn’t slavery? The power of the slave master was transferred to the Federal government, the power they LUSTED FOR from the beginning. They decide. WHO is slave and who is not VIA THE TAX CODE. WAKE UP! Oh, and I suppose you didn’t know that the northern states that sided with the feds were allowed to keep their slaves? Lincoln only freed the slaves that were part of the ‘confederacy’. You were clearly taught in government-run schools.

    • ThomPaineJr12

      So the slavery states were the true America, and of course you want to restore the true America?

  • Henry Bowman

    “The federal government is right here, right now, and firmly cemented into state and local law enforcement.”
    I don’t think of this as a bad thing. It means that they are right here amongst us, easy to reach… touchable.

  • Henry Bowman

    “The federal government is right here, right now, and firmly cemented into state and local law enforcement.”
    I don’t think of this as a bad thing. It means that they are right here amongst us, easy to reach… touchable.

  • Henry Bowman

    “The federal government is right here, right now, and firmly cemented into state and local law enforcement.”
    I don’t think of this as a bad thing. It means that they are right here amongst us, easy to reach… touchable.

  • rekdr

    I believe “live free until you die”

  • C. M. Novess III

    The “Great Experiment”, this republic called America, is dead. It cannot be revived. There will be no more presidential elections – or, likely, any others, for many years to come. The people have elected the American Hitler and he continues to amass power and rule by edict. Perhaps one more Whitehouse engineered “incident” will be sufficient to invoke military law. It’s coming. There is already a Gestapo in place and the “brown shirts” will be marching soon.

    • ThomPaineJr12

      HAHAHAHAHAA

      • Brooklynresident

        Do you work for the TSA? is that why you laugh?

      • Brooklynresident

        Do you work for the TSA? is that why you laugh?

      • Brooklynresident

        Do you work for the TSA? is that why you laugh?

  • C. M. Novess III

    The “Great Experiment”, this republic called America, is dead. It cannot be revived. There will be no more presidential elections – or, likely, any others, for many years to come. The people have elected the American Hitler and he continues to amass power and rule by edict. Perhaps one more Whitehouse engineered “incident” will be sufficient to invoke military law. It’s coming. There is already a Gestapo in place and the “brown shirts” will be marching soon.

  • gypsy314

    I will fight for our constitution and all rights No more gun control and invasion of privacy. No more liberal socialist mo more illegal aliens send them all out of our country NOW

  • gypsy314

    I will fight for our constitution and all rights No more gun control and invasion of privacy. No more liberal socialist mo more illegal aliens send them all out of our country NOW

  • 9Spoon9

    It heart-warming to see so many finally placing their word of honor on the line. “Not on my watch if I can help it” and “to my dying breath” is what I’ve ascribed and posted since BHO came on the scene. It is truly sad that many of us that have made it clear we’ll stand our ground until our the last gasp are 95% US Armed Forces Retirees & Vets. Some active duty have also spoken openly about refusing the unlawful orders and entering AWOL status from the onset of actual woes to ensure their loved ones well-being.

    It’s the sheeple that concern me. Some may sound sincere in their boisterous comments…but how many have faced the hardships involved in military service? How many will become tattle tales/snitches? What are their reactions going to be to incoming rounds and their whirring/whizzing sounds of HV missiles intended for them and theirs? These may require the same treatments as blue helmeted thugs when things implode. Makes it harder to entrust your flanks or six to someone that hasn’t faced that life and death reality.

    I pray that defensive actions won’t be required, but the chances draw slimmer day-by-day. East coast commie-run State govts & Kali’s pothead governor just-signed confiscatory regulation are proof of decay, decline and erosion of America’s Constitutional standards. As in 1775, the ghost of Mr. Revere and his other rider friend will revisit America’s soils to ensure the stores are kept from harm and confiscation. LIBERTY must prevail.

    Stay vigilant, informed and peacefully prepared. May God have mercy on us all, today and through the ends.

    • garysvent

      My favorite saying lately:

      To the 47%,

      “If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home (away) from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; may your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

      ~ Samuel Adams

      • 9Spoon9

        Mr Adam’s words tell not greater truth and most applicable today. Thanks for posting!

      • 9Spoon9

        Mr Adam’s words tell not greater truth and most applicable today. Thanks for posting!

      • 9Spoon9

        Mr Adam’s words tell not greater truth and most applicable today. Thanks for posting!

      • 9Spoon9

        Mr Adam’s words tell not greater truth and most applicable today. Thanks for posting!

    • garysvent

      My favorite saying lately:

      To the 47%,

      “If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home (away) from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; may your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

      ~ Samuel Adams

    • garysvent

      My favorite saying lately:

      To the 47%,

      “If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home (away) from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; may your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

      ~ Samuel Adams

  • $5708171

    Perfectly said, with wisdom and thoughtful restraint. Yes, 3% did the magic 200 years ago, and can do it again if need be. Be ready.

  • $5708171

    Perfectly said, with wisdom and thoughtful restraint. Yes, 3% did the magic 200 years ago, and can do it again if need be. Be ready.

  • $5708171

    Perfectly said, with wisdom and thoughtful restraint. Yes, 3% did the magic 200 years ago, and can do it again if need be. Be ready.

  • Al Chemist

    If the SHTF, then this government might not be the only problem. There’s 47 million people in this country (many of them able bodied) on the dole. When those government handouts cease, and there are no food stamps and indeed no food in the stores to purchase, those people are going to be starving in short order because they do not know how to take care of themselves. They are going to go completely crazy, and many of them will be armed. You’re going to have to worry about them also.

  • Al Chemist

    If the SHTF, then this government might not be the only problem. There’s 47 million people in this country (many of them able bodied) on the dole. When those government handouts cease, and there are no food stamps and indeed no food in the stores to purchase, those people are going to be starving in short order because they do not know how to take care of themselves. They are going to go completely crazy, and many of them will be armed. You’re going to have to worry about them also.

  • Al Chemist

    If the SHTF, then this government might not be the only problem. There’s 47 million people in this country (many of them able bodied) on the dole. When those government handouts cease, and there are no food stamps and indeed no food in the stores to purchase, those people are going to be starving in short order because they do not know how to take care of themselves. They are going to go completely crazy, and many of them will be armed. You’re going to have to worry about them also.

    • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

      Those currently on the dole, some now into the third generation, have no capacity for survival. They may go crazy, but I doubt many will be armed, and even fewer will be effective with whatever arms they find. If society breaks down, they will be among the first casualties. The rest of us have stocked food and precious metals (like copper, tin, and lead…) and will use one stock to protect ourselves and the other stock.

    • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

      Those currently on the dole, some now into the third generation, have no capacity for survival. They may go crazy, but I doubt many will be armed, and even fewer will be effective with whatever arms they find. If society breaks down, they will be among the first casualties. The rest of us have stocked food and precious metals (like copper, tin, and lead…) and will use one stock to protect ourselves and the other stock.

    • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

      Those currently on the dole, some now into the third generation, have no capacity for survival. They may go crazy, but I doubt many will be armed, and even fewer will be effective with whatever arms they find. If society breaks down, they will be among the first casualties. The rest of us have stocked food and precious metals (like copper, tin, and lead…) and will use one stock to protect ourselves and the other stock.

    • http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/08/back-by-popular-demand-what-is-three.html DesertLion (Mark Avery)

      Those currently on the dole, some now into the third generation, have no capacity for survival. They may go crazy, but I doubt many will be armed, and even fewer will be effective with whatever arms they find. If society breaks down, they will be among the first casualties. The rest of us have stocked food and precious metals (like copper, tin, and lead…) and will use one stock to protect ourselves and the other stock.

    • Brooklynresident

      If we are subject to an electromagnetic pulse–which I feel quite likely–NO vehicles will move, NO food, or water, or electricity, will come to the big cities. The stores will quickly be emptied and alight. Smoke, rubble, broken glass everywhere. This will be REAL LIFE, no video game.

      Everyone will be on his own.

      The government has shielding against such a pulse, so Homeland Army vehicles WILL move. Each one full of armored, heavily armed men.

      We’re from the government, and we’ve come to help.

    • Brooklynresident

      If we are subject to an electromagnetic pulse–which I feel quite likely–NO vehicles will move, NO food, or water, or electricity, will come to the big cities. The stores will quickly be emptied and alight. Smoke, rubble, broken glass everywhere. This will be REAL LIFE, no video game.

      Everyone will be on his own.

      The government has shielding against such a pulse, so Homeland Army vehicles WILL move. Each one full of armored, heavily armed men.

      We’re from the government, and we’ve come to help.

    • Brooklynresident

      If we are subject to an electromagnetic pulse–which I feel quite likely–NO vehicles will move, NO food, or water, or electricity, will come to the big cities. The stores will quickly be emptied and alight. Smoke, rubble, broken glass everywhere. This will be REAL LIFE, no video game.

      Everyone will be on his own.

      The government has shielding against such a pulse, so Homeland Army vehicles WILL move. Each one full of armored, heavily armed men.

      We’re from the government, and we’ve come to help.

    • Brooklynresident

      If we are subject to an electromagnetic pulse–which I feel quite likely–NO vehicles will move, NO food, or water, or electricity, will come to the big cities. The stores will quickly be emptied and alight. Smoke, rubble, broken glass everywhere. This will be REAL LIFE, no video game.

      Everyone will be on his own.

      The government has shielding against such a pulse, so Homeland Army vehicles WILL move. Each one full of armored, heavily armed men.

      We’re from the government, and we’ve come to help.

  • Al Chemist

    If the SHTF, then this government might not be the only problem. There’s 47 million people in this country (many of them able bodied) on the dole. When those government handouts cease, and there are no food stamps and indeed no food in the stores to purchase, those people are going to be starving in short order because they do not know how to take care of themselves. They are going to go completely crazy, and many of them will be armed. You’re going to have to worry about them also.

  • Bill Weston

    Something in the favor of the american people is our appetite for liberty and justice. The citizenry of muslim countries, south vietnam, russia, and so on only knew corruption and tyranny and were thus somewhat indiferent to the outcome of their conflicts. Americans have enjoyed the “blessings of liberty and justice” for two centuries. Once many realize that our liberty could be lost, many, if not most, will make a stand. Some in the military will refuse to obey “unlawful orders” as well. If civil war occurs again in our country, it will not be a parrallel to russia or viet nam, but more like the civil war of 1861-1865. Only God, our creator knows the outcome if that happens. Another “intangebile” is something known as “yankee ingenuity”.

  • Bill Weston

    Something in the favor of the american people is our appetite for liberty and justice. The citizenry of muslim countries, south vietnam, russia, and so on only knew corruption and tyranny and were thus somewhat indiferent to the outcome of their conflicts. Americans have enjoyed the “blessings of liberty and justice” for two centuries. Once many realize that our liberty could be lost, many, if not most, will make a stand. Some in the military will refuse to obey “unlawful orders” as well. If civil war occurs again in our country, it will not be a parrallel to russia or viet nam, but more like the civil war of 1861-1865. Only God, our creator knows the outcome if that happens. Another “intangebile” is something known as “yankee ingenuity”.

    • Nimrod

      But I don’t think there would be standing armies facing it off. Too many technological developments for the rebellious army to survive against an organized and government-backed military. It would have to be closer to portions of the Revolutionary War, where the rebels used guerrilla warfare, hit-and-run tactics, subterfuge, supply and armory raiding, etc.

    • Nimrod

      But I don’t think there would be standing armies facing it off. Too many technological developments for the rebellious army to survive against an organized and government-backed military. It would have to be closer to portions of the Revolutionary War, where the rebels used guerrilla warfare, hit-and-run tactics, subterfuge, supply and armory raiding, etc.

    • Nimrod

      But I don’t think there would be standing armies facing it off. Too many technological developments for the rebellious army to survive against an organized and government-backed military. It would have to be closer to portions of the Revolutionary War, where the rebels used guerrilla warfare, hit-and-run tactics, subterfuge, supply and armory raiding, etc.

    • Nimrod

      But I don’t think there would be standing armies facing it off. Too many technological developments for the rebellious army to survive against an organized and government-backed military. It would have to be closer to portions of the Revolutionary War, where the rebels used guerrilla warfare, hit-and-run tactics, subterfuge, supply and armory raiding, etc.

  • Bill Weston

    Something in the favor of the american people is our appetite for liberty and justice. The citizenry of muslim countries, south vietnam, russia, and so on only knew corruption and tyranny and were thus somewhat indiferent to the outcome of their conflicts. Americans have enjoyed the “blessings of liberty and justice” for two centuries. Once many realize that our liberty could be lost, many, if not most, will make a stand. Some in the military will refuse to obey “unlawful orders” as well. If civil war occurs again in our country, it will not be a parrallel to russia or viet nam, but more like the civil war of 1861-1865. Only God, our creator knows the outcome if that happens. Another “intangebile” is something known as “yankee ingenuity”.

  • Bill Weston

    Something in the favor of the american people is our appetite for liberty and justice. The citizenry of muslim countries, south vietnam, russia, and so on only knew corruption and tyranny and were thus somewhat indiferent to the outcome of their conflicts. Americans have enjoyed the “blessings of liberty and justice” for two centuries. Once many realize that our liberty could be lost, many, if not most, will make a stand. Some in the military will refuse to obey “unlawful orders” as well. If civil war occurs again in our country, it will not be a parrallel to russia or viet nam, but more like the civil war of 1861-1865. Only God, our creator knows the outcome if that happens. Another “intangebile” is something known as “yankee ingenuity”.

  • Brenda

    Yes, there will be some who will fire on American Citizens. It has happened in every society that has ever existed. Regardless of the right or wrong of the command, they will follow. The German foot solider fired on fellow Germans, the Russans, the French, even the English. To blindly believe it will not happen here is being idealistic.
    Should it come to a civil war, the question should be, “Are you willing to fire on a fellow American in uniform?”
    We must understand fully the impact of war. This is not a video game, but a deadly contest and in order to win we must be totally committed to winning. Does that commitment exist in todays society? Do we value freedom, or is servitude more appealing? Each individual must make that determination. Me? I would rather die free than live in proverty and fear of our master.

    • spidermike

      I served ’65-’68. At 18, I didn’t know an unlawful order from a box of C-Rations. I was trained to respond to an order without hesitation. So yes, I would have fired on Americans if ordered. May 4 is the anniversary of the Kent State shooting by Ohio ANG. American soldiers have fired on American civilians and will again if ordered. Soldier’s superiors will control the flow of information to the ranks, they will follow orders. That’s why Obama is breaking down morality in the military with homosexual acceptance and removing overt Christianity.Your question: “Are you willing to fire on a fellow American in uniform?” is the 64 Million Dollar question. For myself, only if fired on first. After the first time, there would be no hesitation to initiate combat. But the best way to fight the Federals, if it comes to it, is to not engage the military but be proactive in eliminating “soft targets”. The “soft targets” for the most part are civilians, but the government will not work if their “functionaries” are eliminated or intimidated to quit or sabotage the system. I observed first hand how well it worked for the Viet Cong. Should it ever come to this, you want to be out of the urban/suburban areas. Small town rural America is where the fight will be won. This is all fun to yak about, but it will not happen on Obama’s watch. What we must be vigilant about is the next president, even a Repub president. If he does not roll back every bit of Obamaism, if he does not purge the State Dept, the DOD, FBI, and CIA of progressives, then the next Social Democrat president will continue Obama’s work. Obama has been merely preparing the battlefield for another.

    • spidermike

      I served ’65-’68. At 18, I didn’t know an unlawful order from a box of C-Rations. I was trained to respond to an order without hesitation. So yes, I would have fired on Americans if ordered. May 4 is the anniversary of the Kent State shooting by Ohio ANG. American soldiers have fired on American civilians and will again if ordered. Soldier’s superiors will control the flow of information to the ranks, they will follow orders. That’s why Obama is breaking down morality in the military with homosexual acceptance and removing overt Christianity.Your question: “Are you willing to fire on a fellow American in uniform?” is the 64 Million Dollar question. For myself, only if fired on first. After the first time, there would be no hesitation to initiate combat. But the best way to fight the Federals, if it comes to it, is to not engage the military but be proactive in eliminating “soft targets”. The “soft targets” for the most part are civilians, but the government will not work if their “functionaries” are eliminated or intimidated to quit or sabotage the system. I observed first hand how well it worked for the Viet Cong. Should it ever come to this, you want to be out of the urban/suburban areas. Small town rural America is where the fight will be won. This is all fun to yak about, but it will not happen on Obama’s watch. What we must be vigilant about is the next president, even a Repub president. If he does not roll back every bit of Obamaism, if he does not purge the State Dept, the DOD, FBI, and CIA of progressives, then the next Social Democrat president will continue Obama’s work. Obama has been merely preparing the battlefield for another.

    • spidermike

      I served ’65-’68. At 18, I didn’t know an unlawful order from a box of C-Rations. I was trained to respond to an order without hesitation. So yes, I would have fired on Americans if ordered. May 4 is the anniversary of the Kent State shooting by Ohio ANG. American soldiers have fired on American civilians and will again if ordered. Soldier’s superiors will control the flow of information to the ranks, they will follow orders. That’s why Obama is breaking down morality in the military with homosexual acceptance and removing overt Christianity.Your question: “Are you willing to fire on a fellow American in uniform?” is the 64 Million Dollar question. For myself, only if fired on first. After the first time, there would be no hesitation to initiate combat. But the best way to fight the Federals, if it comes to it, is to not engage the military but be proactive in eliminating “soft targets”. The “soft targets” for the most part are civilians, but the government will not work if their “functionaries” are eliminated or intimidated to quit or sabotage the system. I observed first hand how well it worked for the Viet Cong. Should it ever come to this, you want to be out of the urban/suburban areas. Small town rural America is where the fight will be won. This is all fun to yak about, but it will not happen on Obama’s watch. What we must be vigilant about is the next president, even a Repub president. If he does not roll back every bit of Obamaism, if he does not purge the State Dept, the DOD, FBI, and CIA of progressives, then the next Social Democrat president will continue Obama’s work. Obama has been merely preparing the battlefield for another.

  • Brenda

    Yes, there will be some who will fire on American Citizens. It has happened in every society that has ever existed. Regardless of the right or wrong of the command, they will follow. The German foot solider fired on fellow Germans, the Russans, the French, even the English. To blindly believe it will not happen here is being idealistic.
    Should it come to a civil war, the question should be, “Are you willing to fire on a fellow American in uniform?”
    We must understand fully the impact of war. This is not a video game, but a deadly contest and in order to win we must be totally committed to winning. Does that commitment exist in todays society? Do we value freedom, or is servitude more appealing? Each individual must make that determination. Me? I would rather die free than live in proverty and fear of our master.

  • John b

    By the time they come for you it will be too late.

  • John b

    By the time they come for you it will be too late.

  • John b

    By the time they come for you it will be too late.

  • John b

    By the time they come for you it will be too late.

  • USMCret

    I fought for freedom in a foreign land and now this Obasturd wants to take my freedoms away so he can rule over all like a freakin’ malicious entity. Come and get what you deserve.

  • USMCret

    I fought for freedom in a foreign land and now this Obasturd wants to take my freedoms away so he can rule over all like a freakin’ malicious entity. Come and get what you deserve.

  • USMCret

    I fought for freedom in a foreign land and now this Obasturd wants to take my freedoms away so he can rule over all like a freakin’ malicious entity. Come and get what you deserve.

  • USMCret

    I fought for freedom in a foreign land and now this Obasturd wants to take my freedoms away so he can rule over all like a freakin’ malicious entity. Come and get what you deserve.

  • HongryHawg

    Race war. This administration hides behind our fear of being thought of as rascist. Fear of that word will allow them to exploit racial differences in the populace and make them hesitate before figuratively pulling the trigger. The propaganda will be “Race War. Whose side are you on?” Then watch the ignorant flock.

  • HongryHawg

    Race war. This administration hides behind our fear of being thought of as rascist. Fear of that word will allow them to exploit racial differences in the populace and make them hesitate before figuratively pulling the trigger. The propaganda will be “Race War. Whose side are you on?” Then watch the ignorant flock.

  • HongryHawg

    Race war. This administration hides behind our fear of being thought of as rascist. Fear of that word will allow them to exploit racial differences in the populace and make them hesitate before figuratively pulling the trigger. The propaganda will be “Race War. Whose side are you on?” Then watch the ignorant flock.

  • HongryHawg

    Race war. This administration hides behind our fear of being thought of as rascist. Fear of that word will allow them to exploit racial differences in the populace and make them hesitate before figuratively pulling the trigger. The propaganda will be “Race War. Whose side are you on?” Then watch the ignorant flock.

  • $28109413

    WOLVERINES…….

  • $28109413

    WOLVERINES…….

  • $28109413

    WOLVERINES…….

  • Independentrd

    Here’s a thought. Besides you reason and just depriving the private ctizen of ammunition, feature DHS working with the military. They could/would/will/are entrenched to the point of being able to attempt a coup, so we’d be facing a DHS controlled army led by Obama. It’s also rumored that Obama has at least tens of thousands of trained citizens in a so called secret under cover private army.

    Don’t forget Kent State when you ask if they’d fire on citizens.

    I can not vouch for the contents of all these paranoid net zines, but with the radicals in the current administration who have resorted to violence in the past and have connections to current terrorist organizations and the radical groups who want to destroy our system which has worked so well. (Just look at the May Day demonstrations in the state of Washington.) There’s a lot to be concerned about.

  • Independentrd

    Here’s a thought. Besides you reason and just depriving the private ctizen of ammunition, feature DHS working with the military. They could/would/will/are entrenched to the point of being able to attempt a coup, so we’d be facing a DHS controlled army led by Obama. It’s also rumored that Obama has at least tens of thousands of trained citizens in a so called secret under cover private army.

    Don’t forget Kent State when you ask if they’d fire on citizens.

    I can not vouch for the contents of all these paranoid net zines, but with the radicals in the current administration who have resorted to violence in the past and have connections to current terrorist organizations and the radical groups who want to destroy our system which has worked so well. (Just look at the May Day demonstrations in the state of Washington.) There’s a lot to be concerned about.

  • Independentrd

    Here’s a thought. Besides you reason and just depriving the private ctizen of ammunition, feature DHS working with the military. They could/would/will/are entrenched to the point of being able to attempt a coup, so we’d be facing a DHS controlled army led by Obama. It’s also rumored that Obama has at least tens of thousands of trained citizens in a so called secret under cover private army.

    Don’t forget Kent State when you ask if they’d fire on citizens.

    I can not vouch for the contents of all these paranoid net zines, but with the radicals in the current administration who have resorted to violence in the past and have connections to current terrorist organizations and the radical groups who want to destroy our system which has worked so well. (Just look at the May Day demonstrations in the state of Washington.) There’s a lot to be concerned about.

  • Doug

    There are 10s of thousands of us…armed combat veterans. It’s time we started gathering and be about the business of liberty. Talking time is just about over!

  • Doug

    There are 10s of thousands of us…armed combat veterans. It’s time we started gathering and be about the business of liberty. Talking time is just about over!

  • Doug

    There are 10s of thousands of us…armed combat veterans. It’s time we started gathering and be about the business of liberty. Talking time is just about over!

  • hiskid1964

    God have mercy in Jesus name

  • irish8787

    Rember Freedom Is Not Free

  • irish8787

    Rember Freedom Is Not Free

  • irish8787

    Rember Freedom Is Not Free

  • chiefofcst

    Will Americans fire on U.S. soldiers…YES!!! Don’t bring your bulls–t at me and I won’t fire back….I have marksman medals and I aim for the head and do not miss!!!!!

  • Nimrod

    When I asked my congressman (Paul Gosar, R-AZ) about these purchases during a recent townhall type meeting, I was told to get my facts straight. He denied the large purchases right in front of a large group. When I asked one of my senators (Jeff Flake, R-AZ) about it, his terse reply stated that he trusted the agency department heads to do the right thing and buy just what they needed.

    There is a huge disconnect between what the DHS is doing and what we are being told (or not told, to be more precise). My best guess (and hope) is that it is a combination of bad business practices by the DHS agencies and an intent to choke the supply chain to make ammo hard to get by the rest of us.

  • Nimrod

    When I asked my congressman (Paul Gosar, R-AZ) about these purchases during a recent townhall type meeting, I was told to get my facts straight. He denied the large purchases right in front of a large group. When I asked one of my senators (Jeff Flake, R-AZ) about it, his terse reply stated that he trusted the agency department heads to do the right thing and buy just what they needed.

    There is a huge disconnect between what the DHS is doing and what we are being told (or not told, to be more precise). My best guess (and hope) is that it is a combination of bad business practices by the DHS agencies and an intent to choke the supply chain to make ammo hard to get by the rest of us.

  • Nimrod

    When I asked my congressman (Paul Gosar, R-AZ) about these purchases during a recent townhall type meeting, I was told to get my facts straight. He denied the large purchases right in front of a large group. When I asked one of my senators (Jeff Flake, R-AZ) about it, his terse reply stated that he trusted the agency department heads to do the right thing and buy just what they needed.

    There is a huge disconnect between what the DHS is doing and what we are being told (or not told, to be more precise). My best guess (and hope) is that it is a combination of bad business practices by the DHS agencies and an intent to choke the supply chain to make ammo hard to get by the rest of us.

  • SPOTSOTW

    It’s funny the stupid democrats always have screwed up estimates and the screw-ups actually think that the US armed forces which consist of 2,300,000 men and women(many of whom are in the Navy which is useless a couple miles inland minus 425,000) leaves them with 1.9 million add in non military people you get around 2,000,000. Now the approximate number of people who have firearms is about 200,000,000 again 10 times the armed forces. Firearms in civilian hands is around 300,000,000 that is about 100 times the number of arm forces small arms. When these statistics are pushed and I mean pushed then the idiots will listen.

    • Brooklynresident

      Remember, when assaulting an entrenched enemy, the assaulting force always takes casualties about 3-1. Sure, with better arms, the odds even up–but how many casualties are this rich mans army willing to take?

    • Brooklynresident

      Remember, when assaulting an entrenched enemy, the assaulting force always takes casualties about 3-1. Sure, with better arms, the odds even up–but how many casualties are this rich mans army willing to take?

    • Brooklynresident

      Remember, when assaulting an entrenched enemy, the assaulting force always takes casualties about 3-1. Sure, with better arms, the odds even up–but how many casualties are this rich mans army willing to take?

    • Brooklynresident

      Remember, when assaulting an entrenched enemy, the assaulting force always takes casualties about 3-1. Sure, with better arms, the odds even up–but how many casualties are this rich mans army willing to take?

  • SPOTSOTW

    It’s funny the stupid democrats always have screwed up estimates and the screw-ups actually think that the US armed forces which consist of 2,300,000 men and women(many of whom are in the Navy which is useless a couple miles inland minus 425,000) leaves them with 1.9 million add in non military people you get around 2,000,000. Now the approximate number of people who have firearms is about 200,000,000 again 10 times the armed forces. Firearms in civilian hands is around 300,000,000 that is about 100 times the number of arm forces small arms. When these statistics are pushed and I mean pushed then the idiots will listen.

  • SPOTSOTW

    It’s funny the stupid democrats always have screwed up estimates and the screw-ups actually think that the US armed forces which consist of 2,300,000 men and women(many of whom are in the Navy which is useless a couple miles inland minus 425,000) leaves them with 1.9 million add in non military people you get around 2,000,000. Now the approximate number of people who have firearms is about 200,000,000 again 10 times the armed forces. Firearms in civilian hands is around 300,000,000 that is about 100 times the number of arm forces small arms. When these statistics are pushed and I mean pushed then the idiots will listen.

  • SPOTSOTW

    It’s funny the stupid democrats always have screwed up estimates and the screw-ups actually think that the US armed forces which consist of 2,300,000 men and women(many of whom are in the Navy which is useless a couple miles inland minus 425,000) leaves them with 1.9 million add in non military people you get around 2,000,000. Now the approximate number of people who have firearms is about 200,000,000 again 10 times the armed forces. Firearms in civilian hands is around 300,000,000 that is about 100 times the number of arm forces small arms. When these statistics are pushed and I mean pushed then the idiots will listen.

  • Independentrd

    And now we know why Obama fears and treats our old vets who have fought for our country, (many multiple times) and are willing to do it again. They may be getting rusty and need a few spare parts, but they are trained and have the most incentive to protect our young and their future way of life.

  • Independentrd

    And now we know why Obama fears and treats our old vets who have fought for our country, (many multiple times) and are willing to do it again. They may be getting rusty and need a few spare parts, but they are trained and have the most incentive to protect our young and their future way of life.

  • Breeze13

    I will stand with all my fellow patriots to protect OUR freedoms, not matter what the cost!

  • Breeze13

    I will stand with all my fellow patriots to protect OUR freedoms, not matter what the cost!

  • Breeze13

    I will stand with all my fellow patriots to protect OUR freedoms, not matter what the cost!

  • Breeze13

    I will stand with all my fellow patriots to protect OUR freedoms, not matter what the cost!

  • Backwoodsman

    All of these troops have families. Who will protect them?

  • Backwoodsman

    All of these troops have families. Who will protect them?

  • Backwoodsman

    All of these troops have families. Who will protect them?

  • Backwoodsman

    All of these troops have families. Who will protect them?

  • marine and army green beret

    as a korean war and viet nam vet count men i am76 yearsold fart

  • marine and army green beret

    as a korean war and viet nam vet count men i am76 yearsold fart

  • marine and army green beret

    as a korean war and viet nam vet count men i am76 yearsold fart

  • marine and army green beret

    as a korean war and viet nam vet count men i am76 yearsold fart

  • USPatriotOne

    Everyone here needs a copy of the book “Resistance to Tyranny” by Author Joseph P. Martino, PhD…The book explains in detail about the Communist and Hitler, their tactics and plans to take over their Nations and People, and will open anyone eyes (with a brain and not a un-useful Oboozo IDIOT) that wants access to see the Oboozo plan unfolding right in front of the American People. The book also provides a lot information on how to defy and train to resist the Tyranny that is upon “We the People”..!!!

    Get a copy here:

    http://www.amazon.com/Resistance-Tyranny-Joseph-P-Martino/dp/1450574289/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1367553177&sr=1-1&keywords=resistance+to+tyranny#reader_1450574289

  • USPatriotOne

    Everyone here needs a copy of the book “Resistance to Tyranny” by Author Joseph P. Martino, PhD…The book explains in detail about the Communist and Hitler, their tactics and plans to take over their Nations and People, and will open anyone eyes (with a brain and not a un-useful Oboozo IDIOT) that wants access to see the Oboozo plan unfolding right in front of the American People. The book also provides a lot information on how to defy and train to resist the Tyranny that is upon “We the People”..!!!

    Get a copy here:

    http://www.amazon.com/Resistance-Tyranny-Joseph-P-Martino/dp/1450574289/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1367553177&sr=1-1&keywords=resistance+to+tyranny#reader_1450574289

  • USPatriotOne

    Everyone here needs a copy of the book “Resistance to Tyranny” by Author Joseph P. Martino, PhD…The book explains in detail about the Communist and Hitler, their tactics and plans to take over their Nations and People, and will open anyone eyes (with a brain and not a un-useful Oboozo IDIOT) that wants access to see the Oboozo plan unfolding right in front of the American People. The book also provides a lot information on how to defy and train to resist the Tyranny that is upon “We the People”..!!!

    Get a copy here:

    http://www.amazon.com/Resistance-Tyranny-Joseph-P-Martino/dp/1450574289/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1367553177&sr=1-1&keywords=resistance+to+tyranny#reader_1450574289

  • marine and army green beret

    i will takea whole lot of them with me

  • marine and army green beret

    i will takea whole lot of them with me

  • marine and army green beret

    i will takea whole lot of them with me

  • marine and army green beret

    i will takea whole lot of them with me

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/markchristopherfrimmel/songs markchristopher

    Wolverines!!!

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    Wolverines!!!

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    Wolverines!!!

  • Red55bird

    Boy this is sad is it not, that we have to talk about our Government our tyrannical Government of the Unites States of America, will our troops fire on us is almost unconceivable, never in my 65 years on earth did I think this could happen in America. But never did I think a Marxist Communist leader would be running our Nation either. Obama said before his election in 2008 that he wanted a two million civilian man army that was as well equip as our own army, I see Homeland Security buying weapons and ammunition to fight a one hundred year war with whom, the American people, ammunition for 40c 45c 9mm .223c is in short supply all across America and what ammo you do fine is high in cost, a weapon without bullets is useless. Now it comes down to not if but when the market crash and all hell brakes out in the inner city’s, with this be were Obama puts his army out on the streets and shoot to kill?

  • Red55bird

    Boy this is sad is it not, that we have to talk about our Government our tyrannical Government of the Unites States of America, will our troops fire on us is almost unconceivable, never in my 65 years on earth did I think this could happen in America. But never did I think a Marxist Communist leader would be running our Nation either. Obama said before his election in 2008 that he wanted a two million civilian man army that was as well equip as our own army, I see Homeland Security buying weapons and ammunition to fight a one hundred year war with whom, the American people, ammunition for 40c 45c 9mm .223c is in short supply all across America and what ammo you do fine is high in cost, a weapon without bullets is useless. Now it comes down to not if but when the market crash and all hell brakes out in the inner city’s, with this be were Obama puts his army out on the streets and shoot to kill?

  • Red55bird

    Boy this is sad is it not, that we have to talk about our Government our tyrannical Government of the Unites States of America, will our troops fire on us is almost unconceivable, never in my 65 years on earth did I think this could happen in America. But never did I think a Marxist Communist leader would be running our Nation either. Obama said before his election in 2008 that he wanted a two million civilian man army that was as well equip as our own army, I see Homeland Security buying weapons and ammunition to fight a one hundred year war with whom, the American people, ammunition for 40c 45c 9mm .223c is in short supply all across America and what ammo you do fine is high in cost, a weapon without bullets is useless. Now it comes down to not if but when the market crash and all hell brakes out in the inner city’s, with this be were Obama puts his army out on the streets and shoot to kill?

  • Red55bird

    Boy this is sad is it not, that we have to talk about our Government our tyrannical Government of the Unites States of America, will our troops fire on us is almost unconceivable, never in my 65 years on earth did I think this could happen in America. But never did I think a Marxist Communist leader would be running our Nation either. Obama said before his election in 2008 that he wanted a two million civilian man army that was as well equip as our own army, I see Homeland Security buying weapons and ammunition to fight a one hundred year war with whom, the American people, ammunition for 40c 45c 9mm .223c is in short supply all across America and what ammo you do fine is high in cost, a weapon without bullets is useless. Now it comes down to not if but when the market crash and all hell brakes out in the inner city’s, with this be were Obama puts his army out on the streets and shoot to kill?

  • Jim28thReg

    I do believe there are others pulling the strings that make the monkey man dance. Moochell has recently slipped and confirmed she’s a single Mom & the m.m. finally came out admitting he’s muslim so now they’re pretty much unafraid of retaliation. The powers behind them will probably set another false flag incident to eliminate them before they blab about who’s been protecting them. That could lead to all out ban on guns – confiscation & so civil war that being the main reason all this crap has been going on all these years. We now know every war could’ve been prevented except for the greed of a few. Now they have reached the point where America is the only Nation in the world that is holding them back from complete domination & America cannot be dominated when there are so many free – well all most free people – with guns. These super wealthy would be kings know they can’t control so many armed people so eliminate the guns and 2/3rds of the population and then they’ll jump to the rescue divide up the spoils. HOWEVER believe it or not it is my belief that the origin of this has all been scripted by SATAN. Think about it yourself – whether I’m right or not about Satan doesn’t matter much but I believe this is what is happening and will happen. Every world war has been created by false flag from the government and was unnecessary. Look at the Familys that prospered both from materials and also food products.

  • Jim28thReg

    I do believe there are others pulling the strings that make the monkey man dance. Moochell has recently slipped and confirmed she’s a single Mom & the m.m. finally came out admitting he’s muslim so now they’re pretty much unafraid of retaliation. The powers behind them will probably set another false flag incident to eliminate them before they blab about who’s been protecting them. That could lead to all out ban on guns – confiscation & so civil war that being the main reason all this crap has been going on all these years. We now know every war could’ve been prevented except for the greed of a few. Now they have reached the point where America is the only Nation in the world that is holding them back from complete domination & America cannot be dominated when there are so many free – well all most free people – with guns. These super wealthy would be kings know they can’t control so many armed people so eliminate the guns and 2/3rds of the population and then they’ll jump to the rescue divide up the spoils. HOWEVER believe it or not it is my belief that the origin of this has all been scripted by SATAN. Think about it yourself – whether I’m right or not about Satan doesn’t matter much but I believe this is what is happening and will happen. Every world war has been created by false flag from the government and was unnecessary. Look at the Familys that prospered both from materials and also food products.

  • Jim28thReg

    I do believe there are others pulling the strings that make the monkey man dance. Moochell has recently slipped and confirmed she’s a single Mom & the m.m. finally came out admitting he’s muslim so now they’re pretty much unafraid of retaliation. The powers behind them will probably set another false flag incident to eliminate them before they blab about who’s been protecting them. That could lead to all out ban on guns – confiscation & so civil war that being the main reason all this crap has been going on all these years. We now know every war could’ve been prevented except for the greed of a few. Now they have reached the point where America is the only Nation in the world that is holding them back from complete domination & America cannot be dominated when there are so many free – well all most free people – with guns. These super wealthy would be kings know they can’t control so many armed people so eliminate the guns and 2/3rds of the population and then they’ll jump to the rescue divide up the spoils. HOWEVER believe it or not it is my belief that the origin of this has all been scripted by SATAN. Think about it yourself – whether I’m right or not about Satan doesn’t matter much but I believe this is what is happening and will happen. Every world war has been created by false flag from the government and was unnecessary. Look at the Familys that prospered both from materials and also food products.

  • Jim28thReg

    I do believe there are others pulling the strings that make the monkey man dance. Moochell has recently slipped and confirmed she’s a single Mom & the m.m. finally came out admitting he’s muslim so now they’re pretty much unafraid of retaliation. The powers behind them will probably set another false flag incident to eliminate them before they blab about who’s been protecting them. That could lead to all out ban on guns – confiscation & so civil war that being the main reason all this crap has been going on all these years. We now know every war could’ve been prevented except for the greed of a few. Now they have reached the point where America is the only Nation in the world that is holding them back from complete domination & America cannot be dominated when there are so many free – well all most free people – with guns. These super wealthy would be kings know they can’t control so many armed people so eliminate the guns and 2/3rds of the population and then they’ll jump to the rescue divide up the spoils. HOWEVER believe it or not it is my belief that the origin of this has all been scripted by SATAN. Think about it yourself – whether I’m right or not about Satan doesn’t matter much but I believe this is what is happening and will happen. Every world war has been created by false flag from the government and was unnecessary. Look at the Familys that prospered both from materials and also food products.

  • http://www.facebook.com/barbjeanpatton Barb Patton

    Many of our military are boys of 18 and 19, they are gullible and very vulnerable. It is to be hoped that their parents taught them properly and that they have the love of their country close to their hearts

  • http://www.facebook.com/barbjeanpatton Barb Patton

    Many of our military are boys of 18 and 19, they are gullible and very vulnerable. It is to be hoped that their parents taught them properly and that they have the love of their country close to their hearts

  • http://www.facebook.com/barbjeanpatton Barb Patton

    Many of our military are boys of 18 and 19, they are gullible and very vulnerable. It is to be hoped that their parents taught them properly and that they have the love of their country close to their hearts

  • http://www.facebook.com/barbjeanpatton Barb Patton

    Many of our military are boys of 18 and 19, they are gullible and very vulnerable. It is to be hoped that their parents taught them properly and that they have the love of their country close to their hearts

  • flibberjibbet

    Short answer to your question is Yes.The longer answer is a qualified yes. They would have to pose the situation just like Boston but on a larger scale. You are saving American lives by firing on the anarchists. They are rioting because of (red flag event) or possible currency collapse and no food, and we need to restore order, etc! It has happened before and history has a way of repeating itself.

  • flibberjibbet

    Short answer to your question is Yes.The longer answer is a qualified yes. They would have to pose the situation just like Boston but on a larger scale. You are saving American lives by firing on the anarchists. They are rioting because of (red flag event) or possible currency collapse and no food, and we need to restore order, etc! It has happened before and history has a way of repeating itself.

  • flibberjibbet

    Short answer to your question is Yes.The longer answer is a qualified yes. They would have to pose the situation just like Boston but on a larger scale. You are saving American lives by firing on the anarchists. They are rioting because of (red flag event) or possible currency collapse and no food, and we need to restore order, etc! It has happened before and history has a way of repeating itself.

  • flibberjibbet

    Short answer to your question is Yes.The longer answer is a qualified yes. They would have to pose the situation just like Boston but on a larger scale. You are saving American lives by firing on the anarchists. They are rioting because of (red flag event) or possible currency collapse and no food, and we need to restore order, etc! It has happened before and history has a way of repeating itself.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bruce.a.silver Bruce A Silver

    Something Obama might have said in the past week..”If I were a christian and had a son, he would look like Tim Tebow”. This is the kind of leader/ruler we have today. He will say anything to anyone to get his way and push his socialist agenda. If they shoot at me I will shoot at them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bruce.a.silver Bruce A Silver

    Something Obama might have said in the past week..”If I were a christian and had a son, he would look like Tim Tebow”. This is the kind of leader/ruler we have today. He will say anything to anyone to get his way and push his socialist agenda. If they shoot at me I will shoot at them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bruce.a.silver Bruce A Silver

    Something Obama might have said in the past week..”If I were a christian and had a son, he would look like Tim Tebow”. This is the kind of leader/ruler we have today. He will say anything to anyone to get his way and push his socialist agenda. If they shoot at me I will shoot at them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bruce.a.silver Bruce A Silver

    Something Obama might have said in the past week..”If I were a christian and had a son, he would look like Tim Tebow”. This is the kind of leader/ruler we have today. He will say anything to anyone to get his way and push his socialist agenda. If they shoot at me I will shoot at them.

  • Edward Doc Mahoney

    At 71 I am more a warrior than when I was 17. This present government
    under the leadership of the obagodung dictator, not only disgusts me, It
    has heighten my survival instinct. I believe that that sob is going to
    lead a massive attack on us, in the very near future. There is going to
    be a massive economic collapse world wide, including the present united
    communist states of america. The chinese are the only economic power
    with enough reserve to withstand the collapse. We are massively in debt
    to those b…..ds and they will demand that obagodung corral and disarm
    the American People so they can send occupying troops with out worrying
    about resistance, in the words of Yamamato, “a gun behind every tree”. Above was listed 3 lines in the sand. I will subscribe to any and all. On facebook I have enumerated many times what I will do. This is no longer the country to which I was born and raised. The stupidity of the majority of the lazy american people who do not care or realize that the precious liberties and rights formerly guaranteed by our Constitution-a document that is all but dead-and the Declaration of Independence has been eroded over the years. Most of you simply do not know what you don’t know. You had better wake up and arm yourselves so that you can defend yourself and family against the federal government, the chinese and roving food gangs. We can no longer depend on the military’s oath to defend and protect the constitution against all enemies, foreign or domestic. All new military personnel now swear to obey all orders given. Think about it and decide how you will die or worse yet be imprisoned and enslaved when the obagodung dictator turns over this country to the chinese.

  • Edward Doc Mahoney

    At 71 I am more a warrior than when I was 17. This present government
    under the leadership of the obagodung dictator, not only disgusts me, It
    has heighten my survival instinct. I believe that that sob is going to
    lead a massive attack on us, in the very near future. There is going to
    be a massive economic collapse world wide, including the present united
    communist states of america. The chinese are the only economic power
    with enough reserve to withstand the collapse. We are massively in debt
    to those b…..ds and they will demand that obagodung corral and disarm
    the American People so they can send occupying troops with out worrying
    about resistance, in the words of Yamamato, “a gun behind every tree”. Above was listed 3 lines in the sand. I will subscribe to any and all. On facebook I have enumerated many times what I will do. This is no longer the country to which I was born and raised. The stupidity of the majority of the lazy american people who do not care or realize that the precious liberties and rights formerly guaranteed by our Constitution-a document that is all but dead-and the Declaration of Independence has been eroded over the years. Most of you simply do not know what you don’t know. You had better wake up and arm yourselves so that you can defend yourself and family against the federal government, the chinese and roving food gangs. We can no longer depend on the military’s oath to defend and protect the constitution against all enemies, foreign or domestic. All new military personnel now swear to obey all orders given. Think about it and decide how you will die or worse yet be imprisoned and enslaved when the obagodung dictator turns over this country to the chinese.

  • Edward Doc Mahoney

    At 71 I am more a warrior than when I was 17. This present government
    under the leadership of the obagodung dictator, not only disgusts me, It
    has heighten my survival instinct. I believe that that sob is going to
    lead a massive attack on us, in the very near future. There is going to
    be a massive economic collapse world wide, including the present united
    communist states of america. The chinese are the only economic power
    with enough reserve to withstand the collapse. We are massively in debt
    to those b…..ds and they will demand that obagodung corral and disarm
    the American People so they can send occupying troops with out worrying
    about resistance, in the words of Yamamato, “a gun behind every tree”. Above was listed 3 lines in the sand. I will subscribe to any and all. On facebook I have enumerated many times what I will do. This is no longer the country to which I was born and raised. The stupidity of the majority of the lazy american people who do not care or realize that the precious liberties and rights formerly guaranteed by our Constitution-a document that is all but dead-and the Declaration of Independence has been eroded over the years. Most of you simply do not know what you don’t know. You had better wake up and arm yourselves so that you can defend yourself and family against the federal government, the chinese and roving food gangs. We can no longer depend on the military’s oath to defend and protect the constitution against all enemies, foreign or domestic. All new military personnel now swear to obey all orders given. Think about it and decide how you will die or worse yet be imprisoned and enslaved when the obagodung dictator turns over this country to the chinese.

  • Arationofreason

    “So I ask all of you the billion-dollar question again: “Why does the Department of Homeland Security need all those bullets?”
    200 cartridges expended by multiple shooters against an injured, immobile, unarmed suspect who was hit 4 times. Perhaps they need more than 1.6 billion rounds.

  • Arationofreason

    “So I ask all of you the billion-dollar question again: “Why does the Department of Homeland Security need all those bullets?”
    200 cartridges expended by multiple shooters against an injured, immobile, unarmed suspect who was hit 4 times. Perhaps they need more than 1.6 billion rounds.

  • Arationofreason

    “So I ask all of you the billion-dollar question again: “Why does the Department of Homeland Security need all those bullets?”
    200 cartridges expended by multiple shooters against an injured, immobile, unarmed suspect who was hit 4 times. Perhaps they need more than 1.6 billion rounds.

  • Arationofreason

    “So I ask all of you the billion-dollar question again: “Why does the Department of Homeland Security need all those bullets?”
    200 cartridges expended by multiple shooters against an injured, immobile, unarmed suspect who was hit 4 times. Perhaps they need more than 1.6 billion rounds.

  • http://profiles.google.com/tomretiredintn Thomas Kuhn

    As a retired DHS employee and 18 year firearm instructor I can tell you the vast majority of DHS which would be Customs and Border Protection and ICE which would include Border Patrol would not fire on US citizens. There are 20,000 Border Patrol Agents and 18,000 CBP officers. Also 3000 ICE agents. They took a poll before I retired and over 70% said they would not follow orders to confiscate firearms from the American people. The is no love for this administration in the ranks, ICE agents have sued the administration for ordering them not to arrest illegal aliens. No worries.

  • http://profiles.google.com/tomretiredintn Thomas Kuhn

    As a retired DHS employee and 18 year firearm instructor I can tell you the vast majority of DHS which would be Customs and Border Protection and ICE which would include Border Patrol would not fire on US citizens. There are 20,000 Border Patrol Agents and 18,000 CBP officers. Also 3000 ICE agents. They took a poll before I retired and over 70% said they would not follow orders to confiscate firearms from the American people. The is no love for this administration in the ranks, ICE agents have sued the administration for ordering them not to arrest illegal aliens. No worries.

  • http://profiles.google.com/tomretiredintn Thomas Kuhn

    As a retired DHS employee and 18 year firearm instructor I can tell you the vast majority of DHS which would be Customs and Border Protection and ICE which would include Border Patrol would not fire on US citizens. There are 20,000 Border Patrol Agents and 18,000 CBP officers. Also 3000 ICE agents. They took a poll before I retired and over 70% said they would not follow orders to confiscate firearms from the American people. The is no love for this administration in the ranks, ICE agents have sued the administration for ordering them not to arrest illegal aliens. No worries.

  • http://profiles.google.com/tomretiredintn Thomas Kuhn

    As a retired DHS employee and 18 year firearm instructor I can tell you the vast majority of DHS which would be Customs and Border Protection and ICE which would include Border Patrol would not fire on US citizens. There are 20,000 Border Patrol Agents and 18,000 CBP officers. Also 3000 ICE agents. They took a poll before I retired and over 70% said they would not follow orders to confiscate firearms from the American people. The is no love for this administration in the ranks, ICE agents have sued the administration for ordering them not to arrest illegal aliens. No worries.

  • antiliberalcryptonite

    Some math -

    500,000 currently enlisted in Armed Forces
    Only 10% of those “might” fire on citizens (= 50,000)
    100,000,000 armed American citizens

    Citizens have a 2000:1 advantage.

    Bring it.

  • antiliberalcryptonite

    Some math -

    500,000 currently enlisted in Armed Forces
    Only 10% of those “might” fire on citizens (= 50,000)
    100,000,000 armed American citizens

    Citizens have a 2000:1 advantage.

    Bring it.

  • antiliberalcryptonite

    Some math -

    500,000 currently enlisted in Armed Forces
    Only 10% of those “might” fire on citizens (= 50,000)
    100,000,000 armed American citizens

    Citizens have a 2000:1 advantage.

    Bring it.

  • granny_for USA

    Thank you Skip. Yes, I will fight!! As a “right to carry” granny, I will fight for whatever undermines our USA & the Constitution. We may not state this all the time but we are out there & “Know” that this is our USA & it will stay ours & hopefully without BO. Just hoping that our politicians develop some manly attributes to make sure that BO will get forced out of office along w/ his dirty 2 Dozen. I am having a hard time wondering why our “good” politicians (altho there may not be many), stand by and let BO destroy our USA as we know it.

  • granny_for USA

    Thank you Skip. Yes, I will fight!! As a “right to carry” granny, I will fight for whatever undermines our USA & the Constitution. We may not state this all the time but we are out there & “Know” that this is our USA & it will stay ours & hopefully without BO. Just hoping that our politicians develop some manly attributes to make sure that BO will get forced out of office along w/ his dirty 2 Dozen. I am having a hard time wondering why our “good” politicians (altho there may not be many), stand by and let BO destroy our USA as we know it.

  • granny_for USA

    Thank you Skip. Yes, I will fight!! As a “right to carry” granny, I will fight for whatever undermines our USA & the Constitution. We may not state this all the time but we are out there & “Know” that this is our USA & it will stay ours & hopefully without BO. Just hoping that our politicians develop some manly attributes to make sure that BO will get forced out of office along w/ his dirty 2 Dozen. I am having a hard time wondering why our “good” politicians (altho there may not be many), stand by and let BO destroy our USA as we know it.

  • granny_for USA

    Thank you Skip. Yes, I will fight!! As a “right to carry” granny, I will fight for whatever undermines our USA & the Constitution. We may not state this all the time but we are out there & “Know” that this is our USA & it will stay ours & hopefully without BO. Just hoping that our politicians develop some manly attributes to make sure that BO will get forced out of office along w/ his dirty 2 Dozen. I am having a hard time wondering why our “good” politicians (altho there may not be many), stand by and let BO destroy our USA as we know it.

  • Biff Sarin

    The thing to remember here is that, if it comes to that, the soldiers will not likely view us as citizens but as criminals. Police have no problem firing on American Citizens when they view them as criminals. Any form of resistance will be painted in the media as a handful of radical subversives. Anyone standing against the government will be made to look like the Branch Davidians or Randy Weaver at Ruby Ridge.

    Another point, You “old men” who say that you could “at least stop a bullet”, I would wager that, with the element of surprise, you could take at least one of them with you… Keep in mid that there are about 2.3 million active and reserve military in this country and 100 million plus gun owners. The odds are with us at about 40:1.

    • irish8787

      Then It will Civil War

    • irish8787

      Then It will Civil War

    • irish8787

      Then It will Civil War

    • irish8787

      Then It will Civil War

  • Biff Sarin

    The thing to remember here is that, if it comes to that, the soldiers will not likely view us as citizens but as criminals. Police have no problem firing on American Citizens when they view them as criminals. Any form of resistance will be painted in the media as a handful of radical subversives. Anyone standing against the government will be made to look like the Branch Davidians or Randy Weaver at Ruby Ridge.

    Another point, You “old men” who say that you could “at least stop a bullet”, I would wager that, with the element of surprise, you could take at least one of them with you… Keep in mid that there are about 2.3 million active and reserve military in this country and 100 million plus gun owners. The odds are with us at about 40:1.

  • Biff Sarin

    The thing to remember here is that, if it comes to that, the soldiers will not likely view us as citizens but as criminals. Police have no problem firing on American Citizens when they view them as criminals. Any form of resistance will be painted in the media as a handful of radical subversives. Anyone standing against the government will be made to look like the Branch Davidians or Randy Weaver at Ruby Ridge.

    Another point, You “old men” who say that you could “at least stop a bullet”, I would wager that, with the element of surprise, you could take at least one of them with you… Keep in mid that there are about 2.3 million active and reserve military in this country and 100 million plus gun owners. The odds are with us at about 40:1.

  • Biff Sarin

    The thing to remember here is that, if it comes to that, the soldiers will not likely view us as citizens but as criminals. Police have no problem firing on American Citizens when they view them as criminals. Any form of resistance will be painted in the media as a handful of radical subversives. Anyone standing against the government will be made to look like the Branch Davidians or Randy Weaver at Ruby Ridge.

    Another point, You “old men” who say that you could “at least stop a bullet”, I would wager that, with the element of surprise, you could take at least one of them with you… Keep in mid that there are about 2.3 million active and reserve military in this country and 100 million plus gun owners. The odds are with us at about 40:1.

  • GRusling

    I work in Texas Law Enforcement, and I can assure you that the majority of our officers would join the fight IMMEDIATELY against a federal government which tried to confiscate guns or imprison people who had committed no crime. I realize Texas is not a good test for what Americans in general would do, but we also work closely with the US Border Patrol (men and women from all over the US) and most of their officers are ready to apply for citizenship in the “Republic of Texas” should that government ever come into existence again, and they have large armories at their disposal.

    In my department, everyone is well aware of the unconstitutional actions of the federal government, which they strongly object to, and our department is totally “Hispanic” with the exception of myself and one other. To a man (and woman) we all detest the so-called “Patriot Act” and no one would lift a finger to enforce it. Most people would be surprised how many LEO’s object to what the Fed has been doing for years…

    • irish8787

      Hi, Texas REMBER THE ALAMO

      • GRusling

        The Alamo is located just 90 minutes from where I sit, and all Texicans remember it well…

      • GRusling

        The Alamo is located just 90 minutes from where I sit, and all Texicans remember it well…

      • GRusling

        The Alamo is located just 90 minutes from where I sit, and all Texicans remember it well…

    • irish8787

      Hi, Texas REMBER THE ALAMO

    • irish8787

      Hi, Texas REMBER THE ALAMO

    • irish8787

      Hi, Texas REMBER THE ALAMO

  • GRusling

    I work in Texas Law Enforcement, and I can assure you that the majority of our officers would join the fight IMMEDIATELY against a federal government which tried to confiscate guns or imprison people who had committed no crime. I realize Texas is not a good test for what Americans in general would do, but we also work closely with the US Border Patrol (men and women from all over the US) and most of their officers are ready to apply for citizenship in the “Republic of Texas” should that government ever come into existence again, and they have large armories at their disposal.

    In my department, everyone is well aware of the unconstitutional actions of the federal government, which they strongly object to, and our department is totally “Hispanic” with the exception of myself and one other. To a man (and woman) we all detest the so-called “Patriot Act” and no one would lift a finger to enforce it. Most people would be surprised how many LEO’s object to what the Fed has been doing for years…

  • GRusling

    I work in Texas Law Enforcement, and I can assure you that the majority of our officers would join the fight IMMEDIATELY against a federal government which tried to confiscate guns or imprison people who had committed no crime. I realize Texas is not a good test for what Americans in general would do, but we also work closely with the US Border Patrol (men and women from all over the US) and most of their officers are ready to apply for citizenship in the “Republic of Texas” should that government ever come into existence again, and they have large armories at their disposal.

    In my department, everyone is well aware of the unconstitutional actions of the federal government, which they strongly object to, and our department is totally “Hispanic” with the exception of myself and one other. To a man (and woman) we all detest the so-called “Patriot Act” and no one would lift a finger to enforce it. Most people would be surprised how many LEO’s object to what the Fed has been doing for years…

  • jaycee

    This administration is looking for another civil war. No one will ever convince me of anything other than that. Besides him bowing to a muslim and saying muslims have been a big part of US history, his wife also hates whites. I feel sorry for his two daughters to have to grow up in a world that doesn’t like their father, worse yet, they don’t trust him. I will defend my home in any way possible, even die doing it. I’m in my 70s so my life isn’t over yet as I’m still capable of pulling a trigger. I still love the USofA and will go down fighting if I have to….USN vet.

    • irish8787

      If The Administration Wants A Civil War Then WE will Give Them One That Thay Will Never FORGET

    • irish8787

      If The Administration Wants A Civil War Then WE will Give Them One That Thay Will Never FORGET

    • irish8787

      If The Administration Wants A Civil War Then WE will Give Them One That Thay Will Never FORGET

    • irish8787

      If The Administration Wants A Civil War Then WE will Give Them One That Thay Will Never FORGET

  • jaycee

    This administration is looking for another civil war. No one will ever convince me of anything other than that. Besides him bowing to a muslim and saying muslims have been a big part of US history, his wife also hates whites. I feel sorry for his two daughters to have to grow up in a world that doesn’t like their father, worse yet, they don’t trust him. I will defend my home in any way possible, even die doing it. I’m in my 70s so my life isn’t over yet as I’m still capable of pulling a trigger. I still love the USofA and will go down fighting if I have to….USN vet.

  • jaycee

    This administration is looking for another civil war. No one will ever convince me of anything other than that. Besides him bowing to a muslim and saying muslims have been a big part of US history, his wife also hates whites. I feel sorry for his two daughters to have to grow up in a world that doesn’t like their father, worse yet, they don’t trust him. I will defend my home in any way possible, even die doing it. I’m in my 70s so my life isn’t over yet as I’m still capable of pulling a trigger. I still love the USofA and will go down fighting if I have to….USN vet.

  • jaycee

    This administration is looking for another civil war. No one will ever convince me of anything other than that. Besides him bowing to a muslim and saying muslims have been a big part of US history, his wife also hates whites. I feel sorry for his two daughters to have to grow up in a world that doesn’t like their father, worse yet, they don’t trust him. I will defend my home in any way possible, even die doing it. I’m in my 70s so my life isn’t over yet as I’m still capable of pulling a trigger. I still love the USofA and will go down fighting if I have to….USN vet.

  • Murray Putnam

    Hide some of your weapons, pick your battles, fight wisely, fight at night and in the snow and rain. Make your shots count and do no harm to those who would not harm you. Fight like a demon, and to those who would harm you or yours be ruthless, without mercy or fear. I love my country, but fear my government. Remember 9/11/01 and 4/15/13 and why you should fear a government thats so corrupt or inept it cant or wont protect you. Semper Fi PIMCRD 1968

    • irish8787

      Semper Fi V/N 1971 MOS 1800

    • irish8787

      Semper Fi V/N 1971 MOS 1800

    • irish8787

      Semper Fi V/N 1971 MOS 1800

    • irish8787

      Semper Fi V/N 1971 MOS 1800

  • Murray Putnam

    Hide some of your weapons, pick your battles, fight wisely, fight at night and in the snow and rain. Make your shots count and do no harm to those who would not harm you. Fight like a demon, and to those who would harm you or yours be ruthless, without mercy or fear. I love my country, but fear my government. Remember 9/11/01 and 4/15/13 and why you should fear a government thats so corrupt or inept it cant or wont protect you. Semper Fi PIMCRD 1968

  • Murray Putnam

    Hide some of your weapons, pick your battles, fight wisely, fight at night and in the snow and rain. Make your shots count and do no harm to those who would not harm you. Fight like a demon, and to those who would harm you or yours be ruthless, without mercy or fear. I love my country, but fear my government. Remember 9/11/01 and 4/15/13 and why you should fear a government thats so corrupt or inept it cant or wont protect you. Semper Fi PIMCRD 1968

  • Murray Putnam

    Hide some of your weapons, pick your battles, fight wisely, fight at night and in the snow and rain. Make your shots count and do no harm to those who would not harm you. Fight like a demon, and to those who would harm you or yours be ruthless, without mercy or fear. I love my country, but fear my government. Remember 9/11/01 and 4/15/13 and why you should fear a government thats so corrupt or inept it cant or wont protect you. Semper Fi PIMCRD 1968

  • Ron

    Odumbo the radical Kenyan Muslim hates our military. He knows they will not fire on countrymen. He must use his own privale army, the DHS. He would crap his pants if you put a rifle in his hands and deposit his black ass on the front line in a battle. What a worthless piece of monkey crap.

  • Ron

    Odumbo the radical Kenyan Muslim hates our military. He knows they will not fire on countrymen. He must use his own privale army, the DHS. He would crap his pants if you put a rifle in his hands and deposit his black ass on the front line in a battle. What a worthless piece of monkey crap.

  • Ron

    Odumbo the radical Kenyan Muslim hates our military. He knows they will not fire on countrymen. He must use his own privale army, the DHS. He would crap his pants if you put a rifle in his hands and deposit his black ass on the front line in a battle. What a worthless piece of monkey crap.

  • slickzip

    I will fight ODUMBA as long as the son of a bitch is in office ,,,,,

  • slickzip

    I will fight ODUMBA as long as the son of a bitch is in office ,,,,,

  • slickzip

    I will fight ODUMBA as long as the son of a bitch is in office ,,,,,

  • slickzip

    I will fight ODUMBA as long as the son of a bitch is in office ,,,,,

  • LeSellers

    Based on the three oaths mentioned, Coryell will die:
    1. I will fight when they force gun registration.
    2. I will fight when they come for my guns.
    3. I will fight when they come for me.

    One man arrayed against five or fifty has no chance of success. Skip must join with like-minded friends and associates who, together, will form a militia. A “well regulated militia [is] necessary to the security of a free state”. Otherwise, as Franklin said, “We must all hang together, or we will all hang separately.” There is no other choice.

    Mr. O’bama, will there ever be any Jobs?

  • LeSellers

    Based on the three oaths mentioned, Coryell will die:
    1. I will fight when they force gun registration.
    2. I will fight when they come for my guns.
    3. I will fight when they come for me.

    One man arrayed against five or fifty has no chance of success. Skip must join with like-minded friends and associates who, together, will form a militia. A “well regulated militia [is] necessary to the security of a free state”. Otherwise, as Franklin said, “We must all hang together, or we will all hang separately.” There is no other choice.

    Mr. O’bama, will there ever be any Jobs?

  • LeSellers

    Based on the three oaths mentioned, Coryell will die:
    1. I will fight when they force gun registration.
    2. I will fight when they come for my guns.
    3. I will fight when they come for me.

    One man arrayed against five or fifty has no chance of success. Skip must join with like-minded friends and associates who, together, will form a militia. A “well regulated militia [is] necessary to the security of a free state”. Otherwise, as Franklin said, “We must all hang together, or we will all hang separately.” There is no other choice.

    Mr. O’bama, will there ever be any Jobs?

  • LeSellers

    Based on the three oaths mentioned, Coryell will die:
    1. I will fight when they force gun registration.
    2. I will fight when they come for my guns.
    3. I will fight when they come for me.

    One man arrayed against five or fifty has no chance of success. Skip must join with like-minded friends and associates who, together, will form a militia. A “well regulated militia [is] necessary to the security of a free state”. Otherwise, as Franklin said, “We must all hang together, or we will all hang separately.” There is no other choice.

    Mr. O’bama, will there ever be any Jobs?

  • http://www.facebook.com/loran.carlson Loran Carlson

    Another thing one has to consider is Obama asking the UN for assistance in that scenario. We all know the UN would not hesitate to involve themselves in a shooting war against US citizens. The world is so jealous with us that they wouldn’t pass up a chance to put us “in our place”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/loran.carlson Loran Carlson

    Another thing one has to consider is Obama asking the UN for assistance in that scenario. We all know the UN would not hesitate to involve themselves in a shooting war against US citizens. The world is so jealous with us that they wouldn’t pass up a chance to put us “in our place”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/loran.carlson Loran Carlson

    Another thing one has to consider is Obama asking the UN for assistance in that scenario. We all know the UN would not hesitate to involve themselves in a shooting war against US citizens. The world is so jealous with us that they wouldn’t pass up a chance to put us “in our place”.

  • a_browning

    Once the shtf happens, I know I don’t have a lot of years before my tumor gets me. I will not take the Mark to keep my medicine and live in slavery. I may only have a few old bolt action milsurp rifles, but when the shooting starts I will stand for the freedom I hope to leave as a legacy for my daughter.

  • a_browning

    Once the shtf happens, I know I don’t have a lot of years before my tumor gets me. I will not take the Mark to keep my medicine and live in slavery. I may only have a few old bolt action milsurp rifles, but when the shooting starts I will stand for the freedom I hope to leave as a legacy for my daughter.

  • a_browning

    Once the shtf happens, I know I don’t have a lot of years before my tumor gets me. I will not take the Mark to keep my medicine and live in slavery. I may only have a few old bolt action milsurp rifles, but when the shooting starts I will stand for the freedom I hope to leave as a legacy for my daughter.

  • a_browning

    Once the shtf happens, I know I don’t have a lot of years before my tumor gets me. I will not take the Mark to keep my medicine and live in slavery. I may only have a few old bolt action milsurp rifles, but when the shooting starts I will stand for the freedom I hope to leave as a legacy for my daughter.

    • irish8787

      Weather it is a bolt or a auto as long as you can hit you targer that what counts , I go with you

    • irish8787

      Weather it is a bolt or a auto as long as you can hit you targer that what counts , I go with you

  • JBKonya104

    There will be some in the Military that will turn against Americans…..but the Majority will turn against this Corrupt Government. They signed oaths when they joined the service to protect this Country and get America Free. If Obama thinks he’s going to get our servicemen/women to turn against their own….he’d better think twice! Hopefully he will be Impeached this year and this kind of sick thinking will be gone. Only he….would try to twist the minds of the American People to do the Unthinkable! That should be enough to jerk that jerk out of the White House!

  • JBKonya104

    There will be some in the Military that will turn against Americans…..but the Majority will turn against this Corrupt Government. They signed oaths when they joined the service to protect this Country and get America Free. If Obama thinks he’s going to get our servicemen/women to turn against their own….he’d better think twice! Hopefully he will be Impeached this year and this kind of sick thinking will be gone. Only he….would try to twist the minds of the American People to do the Unthinkable! That should be enough to jerk that jerk out of the White House!

  • Nana

    Supplying terrorists in other countries is my guess.

  • John W.H.

    I do not believe Bo rack Insane Obama is smart enough to pull this off, that why ever time he goes off script and quits reading from a teleprompter, he just rambles, he is really just a stupid little man.

  • drdgonflyr

    Sad part of all this is Obama is just a pawn even though he thinks he’s god. I would like to know which of the elite are the chess masters in all this. Those are the ones that need to go. They have been at this for a long long time and it is coming to an end on way or another. Freedom or slavery…..

  • drdgonflyr

    Sad part of all this is Obama is just a pawn even though he thinks he’s god. I would like to know which of the elite are the chess masters in all this. Those are the ones that need to go. They have been at this for a long long time and it is coming to an end on way or another. Freedom or slavery…..

  • Hondo Sackett

    Not a vet and never been in the military but I have the highest respect towards y’all that have served. Bad knees from bull riding and asthmatic lungs kept me out of the service. But when the time comes to protect our country I’ll be there. Been in the woods with a gun in my hand since I was very young and have had to defend myself and others with both gun and knife. I am a 3% and will proudly stand with y’all until the end. “Give me liberty or give me death!”

  • Hondo Sackett

    Not a vet and never been in the military but I have the highest respect towards y’all that have served. Bad knees from bull riding and asthmatic lungs kept me out of the service. But when the time comes to protect our country I’ll be there. Been in the woods with a gun in my hand since I was very young and have had to defend myself and others with both gun and knife. I am a 3% and will proudly stand with y’all until the end. “Give me liberty or give me death!”

  • Hondo Sackett

    Not a vet and never been in the military but I have the highest respect towards y’all that have served. Bad knees from bull riding and asthmatic lungs kept me out of the service. But when the time comes to protect our country I’ll be there. Been in the woods with a gun in my hand since I was very young and have had to defend myself and others with both gun and knife. I am a 3% and will proudly stand with y’all until the end. “Give me liberty or give me death!”

  • Hondo Sackett

    Not a vet and never been in the military but I have the highest respect towards y’all that have served. Bad knees from bull riding and asthmatic lungs kept me out of the service. But when the time comes to protect our country I’ll be there. Been in the woods with a gun in my hand since I was very young and have had to defend myself and others with both gun and knife. I am a 3% and will proudly stand with y’all until the end. “Give me liberty or give me death!”

  • scotty295

    AFTER READING ALL THESE COMMENTS I HAVE TO SAY OOOH-RAH!! YOU GUYS HAVE INSTILLED A GREAT SENSE OF PRIDE FOR US “OLD-TIMERS!” I MARRIED YOUNG AND HAD A FAMILY RIGHT OFF SO I AM NOT A VET BUT I HAVE THE UTMOST RESPECT FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE!! MY SON IS AN EX-MARINE AND SHARES MY FEELINGS! I, TOO, HAVE MEDICAL ISSUES BUT I AM WELL ARMED AND READY TO STAND WITH ALL OF YOU!

    MY
    SOLEMN OATH AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN MARCH 18, 2011

    I, Dennis L. Scott, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend
    the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;That I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and
    faithfully discharge the duties of the office of legal citizen and voter of
    these United States, so help me God!

    Dennis L. Scott
    (Unapologetic American Citizen)

    OUR CREATOR GAVE US OUR RIGHTS OUR CONSTITUTION PROTECTS THEM!

    READ AND GET EDUCATED AT MY WEB SITE: coinmanplus.net

  • scotty295

    AFTER READING ALL THESE COMMENTS I HAVE TO SAY OOOH-RAH!! YOU GUYS HAVE INSTILLED A GREAT SENSE OF PRIDE FOR US “OLD-TIMERS!” I MARRIED YOUNG AND HAD A FAMILY RIGHT OFF SO I AM NOT A VET BUT I HAVE THE UTMOST RESPECT FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE!! MY SON IS AN EX-MARINE AND SHARES MY FEELINGS! I, TOO, HAVE MEDICAL ISSUES BUT I AM WELL ARMED AND READY TO STAND WITH ALL OF YOU!

    MY
    SOLEMN OATH AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN MARCH 18, 2011

    I, Dennis L. Scott, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend
    the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;That I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and
    faithfully discharge the duties of the office of legal citizen and voter of
    these United States, so help me God!

    Dennis L. Scott
    (Unapologetic American Citizen)

    OUR CREATOR GAVE US OUR RIGHTS OUR CONSTITUTION PROTECTS THEM!

    READ AND GET EDUCATED AT MY WEB SITE: coinmanplus.net

  • scotty295

    AFTER READING ALL THESE COMMENTS I HAVE TO SAY OOOH-RAH!! YOU GUYS HAVE INSTILLED A GREAT SENSE OF PRIDE FOR US “OLD-TIMERS!” I MARRIED YOUNG AND HAD A FAMILY RIGHT OFF SO I AM NOT A VET BUT I HAVE THE UTMOST RESPECT FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE!! MY SON IS AN EX-MARINE AND SHARES MY FEELINGS! I, TOO, HAVE MEDICAL ISSUES BUT I AM WELL ARMED AND READY TO STAND WITH ALL OF YOU!

    MY
    SOLEMN OATH AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN MARCH 18, 2011

    I, Dennis L. Scott, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend
    the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;That I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and
    faithfully discharge the duties of the office of legal citizen and voter of
    these United States, so help me God!

    Dennis L. Scott
    (Unapologetic American Citizen)

    OUR CREATOR GAVE US OUR RIGHTS OUR CONSTITUTION PROTECTS THEM!

    READ AND GET EDUCATED AT MY WEB SITE: coinmanplus.net

  • Rich

    I am not a Vet., but I will fight to the death. I hope it doesn’t come to that, but the way the government is pushing, it is sure to come. Whats even worse it just isn’t Obama and the Dems., some of the Reps. are in on it to.

  • Rich

    I am not a Vet., but I will fight to the death. I hope it doesn’t come to that, but the way the government is pushing, it is sure to come. Whats even worse it just isn’t Obama and the Dems., some of the Reps. are in on it to.

  • Rich

    I am not a Vet., but I will fight to the death. I hope it doesn’t come to that, but the way the government is pushing, it is sure to come. Whats even worse it just isn’t Obama and the Dems., some of the Reps. are in on it to.

  • http://www.facebook.com/william.wilson.56863 William Wilson

    Did anybody ever think it would ever get this bad?? That there would be a discussion of revolution?? That OUR military, our sons and daughters would ever consider firing on us?? I am not afraid, but I am concerned.
    Viet Nam 67-68

  • http://www.facebook.com/william.wilson.56863 William Wilson

    Did anybody ever think it would ever get this bad?? That there would be a discussion of revolution?? That OUR military, our sons and daughters would ever consider firing on us?? I am not afraid, but I am concerned.
    Viet Nam 67-68

  • http://www.facebook.com/william.wilson.56863 William Wilson

    Did anybody ever think it would ever get this bad?? That there would be a discussion of revolution?? That OUR military, our sons and daughters would ever consider firing on us?? I am not afraid, but I am concerned.
    Viet Nam 67-68

  • http://www.facebook.com/william.wilson.56863 William Wilson

    Did anybody ever think it would ever get this bad?? That there would be a discussion of revolution?? That OUR military, our sons and daughters would ever consider firing on us?? I am not afraid, but I am concerned.
    Viet Nam 67-68

  • http://www.facebook.com/Rocky.Espinoza Rocky Espinoza

    For one,it is not a federal government… Two,”no”,our military will not fire on their own people… Three,DHS is not an agency… They were never approved by congress… And Four,we did not lose to the viet cong,they were about to surrender within fourteen days prior to kissinger kissing ass… And he knew it… So quit with the scare tactics.!

  • http://www.facebook.com/Rocky.Espinoza Rocky Espinoza

    For one,it is not a federal government… Two,”no”,our military will not fire on their own people… Three,DHS is not an agency… They were never approved by congress… And Four,we did not lose to the viet cong,they were about to surrender within fourteen days prior to kissinger kissing ass… And he knew it… So quit with the scare tactics.!

  • http://www.facebook.com/Rocky.Espinoza Rocky Espinoza

    For one,it is not a federal government… Two,”no”,our military will not fire on their own people… Three,DHS is not an agency… They were never approved by congress… And Four,we did not lose to the viet cong,they were about to surrender within fourteen days prior to kissinger kissing ass… And he knew it… So quit with the scare tactics.!

  • CARL

    >>> IF THE AMERICAN MILITARY TURN TRAITOR AND FIRE ON CITIZENS ,
    ” WE THE PEOPLE ” WILL FIRE BACK AT THEM , AND WE GREATLY OUTNUMBER AND OUTGUN THEM . THERE ARE 320,000,000 CITIZENS AND ABOUT 210,000,000 ARE WELL ARMED , WILLING AND READY TO ” DEFEND THE RIGHT TO DEFEND OURSELVES “. SPREAD THE WORD THAT ANY ACT OF WAR AGAINST CITIZENS BY AMERICAN OF FOREIGN TROOPS WILL LEAD TO DEATH ~ THEIR DEATH . <<<

  • CARL

    >>> IF THE AMERICAN MILITARY TURN TRAITOR AND FIRE ON CITIZENS ,
    ” WE THE PEOPLE ” WILL FIRE BACK AT THEM , AND WE GREATLY OUTNUMBER AND OUTGUN THEM . THERE ARE 320,000,000 CITIZENS AND ABOUT 210,000,000 ARE WELL ARMED , WILLING AND READY TO ” DEFEND THE RIGHT TO DEFEND OURSELVES “. SPREAD THE WORD THAT ANY ACT OF WAR AGAINST CITIZENS BY AMERICAN OF FOREIGN TROOPS WILL LEAD TO DEATH ~ THEIR DEATH . <<<

  • CARL

    >>> IF THE AMERICAN MILITARY TURN TRAITOR AND FIRE ON CITIZENS ,
    ” WE THE PEOPLE ” WILL FIRE BACK AT THEM , AND WE GREATLY OUTNUMBER AND OUTGUN THEM . THERE ARE 320,000,000 CITIZENS AND ABOUT 210,000,000 ARE WELL ARMED , WILLING AND READY TO ” DEFEND THE RIGHT TO DEFEND OURSELVES “. SPREAD THE WORD THAT ANY ACT OF WAR AGAINST CITIZENS BY AMERICAN OF FOREIGN TROOPS WILL LEAD TO DEATH ~ THEIR DEATH . <<<

  • Patriot46

    I am getting old, Vietnam ’69-’70, but the light of freedom shines brightly in my eyes. Were the situation to come to saving me and my family, the members of the aggressor force would have to decide, individually, if they were really prepared to die that day. That would be before they took me out.

  • Patriot46

    I am getting old, Vietnam ’69-’70, but the light of freedom shines brightly in my eyes. Were the situation to come to saving me and my family, the members of the aggressor force would have to decide, individually, if they were really prepared to die that day. That would be before they took me out.

  • Patriot46

    I am getting old, Vietnam ’69-’70, but the light of freedom shines brightly in my eyes. Were the situation to come to saving me and my family, the members of the aggressor force would have to decide, individually, if they were really prepared to die that day. That would be before they took me out.

  • Patriot46

    I am getting old, Vietnam ’69-’70, but the light of freedom shines brightly in my eyes. Were the situation to come to saving me and my family, the members of the aggressor force would have to decide, individually, if they were really prepared to die that day. That would be before they took me out.

  • CARL

    >>> BECAUSE OF THIS POST ~ WHICH WE MUST TAKE SERIOUSLY ~ EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN MUST JOIN A MILITIA ~ MODERN MILITIA MOVEMENT ,
    WELL REGULATED AMERICAN MILITIA , COUNTY SHERIFF’S CONSTITUTIONAL POSSE , NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION , CONCEALED CARRY ASSOCIATION OR SOME OTHER GROUP . <<<

  • CARL

    >>> BECAUSE OF THIS POST ~ WHICH WE MUST TAKE SERIOUSLY ~ EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN MUST JOIN A MILITIA ~ MODERN MILITIA MOVEMENT ,
    WELL REGULATED AMERICAN MILITIA , COUNTY SHERIFF’S CONSTITUTIONAL POSSE , NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION , CONCEALED CARRY ASSOCIATION OR SOME OTHER GROUP . <<<

  • CARL

    >>> BECAUSE OF THIS POST ~ WHICH WE MUST TAKE SERIOUSLY ~ EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN MUST JOIN A MILITIA ~ MODERN MILITIA MOVEMENT ,
    WELL REGULATED AMERICAN MILITIA , COUNTY SHERIFF’S CONSTITUTIONAL POSSE , NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION , CONCEALED CARRY ASSOCIATION OR SOME OTHER GROUP . <<<

  • CARL

    >>> BECAUSE OF THIS POST ~ WHICH WE MUST TAKE SERIOUSLY ~ EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN MUST JOIN A MILITIA ~ MODERN MILITIA MOVEMENT ,
    WELL REGULATED AMERICAN MILITIA , COUNTY SHERIFF’S CONSTITUTIONAL POSSE , NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION , CONCEALED CARRY ASSOCIATION OR SOME OTHER GROUP . <<<

  • Just sayin

    It is amazing how many of “broke-up old guys” who remember that we never took back our oath when we demobed. I’ll be 60 soon and am disabled. I might not be able to run or carry much ammo very far but I can still lay still and squeeze a trigger. Yeah, the young brown-shirts will get me quickly. Hopefully not before I can arrange a suitable escort like the Vikings did when I do fall. I never expected to die in combat after I got out in 74. Here it is almost 40 years later and I am having to think about the lessons we learned from Charlie and later the Muj and know that if I ever do have to take up arms in anger, I will die. No medals this time for any of us. But it will be a job do for the love of our nation and for the Constitution that has been turned into toilet paper in DC.

    Someone said we’ll be the flea on his back. He’ll be the most flea-bitten mutt ever to run from office!

  • CARL

    >>> THE REASON OUR FOUNDING FATHERS INCLUDED THE 2nd AMENDMENT IS TO PROTECT CITIZENS A TYRANNICAL CENTRAL GOVERNMENT , SUCH AS THE ONE WHICH ‘ ILLEGALLY OCCUPIES ‘ OUR CAPITOL IN WASHINGTON D . C .
    ( DISTRICT OF CORRUPTION ) . THE CONSTITUTION AND ALL AMENDMENTS PLUS THE BILL OF RIGHTS ARE INVIOLATE , CHISELED IN GRANITE AND DEEPLY ENGRAVED IN STAINLESS STEEL . ANYONE WHO ATTEMPTS TO CHANGE, DELETE , ALTER OR REMOVE ONE LETTER IS A CRIMINAL TRAITOR AND MUST BE EXECUTED BY HANGING . A FIRING SQUAD IS TOO HONORABLE FOR THEM .

  • Frank W Brown

    I thank ALL you Vets and current military for your service and bravery! I too, am an older citizen. I never served in the military, but have been keeping my aim straight, pantry stocked and am Locked and Loaded! Molon Labe!!

  • Frank W Brown

    I thank ALL you Vets and current military for your service and bravery! I too, am an older citizen. I never served in the military, but have been keeping my aim straight, pantry stocked and am Locked and Loaded! Molon Labe!!

  • Frank W Brown

    I thank ALL you Vets and current military for your service and bravery! I too, am an older citizen. I never served in the military, but have been keeping my aim straight, pantry stocked and am Locked and Loaded! Molon Labe!!

  • Frank W Brown

    I thank ALL you Vets and current military for your service and bravery! I too, am an older citizen. I never served in the military, but have been keeping my aim straight, pantry stocked and am Locked and Loaded! Molon Labe!!

  • hbbill

    There IS a III% quasi-movement in the country. GOOGLE it.

  • hbbill

    There IS a III% quasi-movement in the country. GOOGLE it.

  • hbbill

    There IS a III% quasi-movement in the country. GOOGLE it.

  • usaimages

    My GOD – I am so very proud of all of you who will stand and fight. I am a former police officer and a retired corrections officer. I may be 68 yrs old, but I never took crap from any street punk or prison inmate, and I’m not about to start now. If you come for my weapons, you will see how mean & tough an old man can be! Heck, I don’t have anything to lose, and a firefight seems like a good way to go.

    • http://www.facebook.com/shane.lechner Shane Lechner

      government beware of men like us who dont have anything to lose..thanks to you in DC..i am 53 yrs old and not afraid of dieing either .. so going out in a fire fight against tyranny is my destiny i would think.. consider me in the 3%

      • Ed Williams

        I believe that one of the main reasons that the a$$hats haven’t pushed farther & harder than they have is that there are still so many of us alive who still remember America and are not willing to submit. To a large degree, I think they’re waiting for us to die off before the big push. Time will tell…

      • Ed Williams

        I believe that one of the main reasons that the a$$hats haven’t pushed farther & harder than they have is that there are still so many of us alive who still remember America and are not willing to submit. To a large degree, I think they’re waiting for us to die off before the big push. Time will tell…

      • Ed Williams

        I believe that one of the main reasons that the a$$hats haven’t pushed farther & harder than they have is that there are still so many of us alive who still remember America and are not willing to submit. To a large degree, I think they’re waiting for us to die off before the big push. Time will tell…

    • http://www.facebook.com/shane.lechner Shane Lechner

      government beware of men like us who dont have anything to lose..thanks to you in DC..i am 53 yrs old and not afraid of dieing either .. so going out in a fire fight against tyranny is my destiny i would think.. consider me in the 3%

  • usaimages

    My GOD – I am so very proud of all of you who will stand and fight. I am a former police officer and a retired corrections officer. I may be 68 yrs old, but I never took crap from any street punk or prison inmate, and I’m not about to start now. If you come for my weapons, you will see how mean & tough an old man can be! Heck, I don’t have anything to lose, and a firefight seems like a good way to go.

  • usaimages

    My GOD – I am so very proud of all of you who will stand and fight. I am a former police officer and a retired corrections officer. I may be 68 yrs old, but I never took crap from any street punk or prison inmate, and I’m not about to start now. If you come for my weapons, you will see how mean & tough an old man can be! Heck, I don’t have anything to lose, and a firefight seems like a good way to go.

  • usaimages

    My GOD – I am so very proud of all of you who will stand and fight. I am a former police officer and a retired corrections officer. I may be 68 yrs old, but I never took crap from any street punk or prison inmate, and I’m not about to start now. If you come for my weapons, you will see how mean & tough an old man can be! Heck, I don’t have anything to lose, and a firefight seems like a good way to go.

  • RVN11B

    Seems like I am in good company, even some Marines! Not a problem. Retired Army grunt here.
    And as for that nonsensical, question on do I have the will to pull that trigger, let me just say I have been there, done that, got the T-shirt, and have worn that bastard out!
    And I still have the skills. Just like riding a bike.

  • RVN11B

    Seems like I am in good company, even some Marines! Not a problem. Retired Army grunt here.
    And as for that nonsensical, question on do I have the will to pull that trigger, let me just say I have been there, done that, got the T-shirt, and have worn that bastard out!
    And I still have the skills. Just like riding a bike.

  • justamused

    Skip, you forget that the only reason the VietCong won and the Taliban will is the typical American politician has NO TESTICLES! Our current servicemembers WILL fire on American citizens because they have NO GUIDANCE. The current Army brass is teaching that ALL CHRISTIANS are terrorists! The average high school grad- the person behind the trigger, WILL FIRE simply because he was ordered to! The traits, once highly prized, patriotism, honor, duty ( to We the People- the TRUE government)
    has been co-opted by the communists (socialism is really just communism lite).
    PERSONAL GAIN is the driving force behind everything, it has been for some time.
    I saw plenty of numbskulls in the Army that would shoot their mother if ordered to!!!!!
    Instead of vague, pie-in-the-sky, personal thoughts maybe someone could try to survey the enlisted men (forget the officers-their egos get in the way of the truth).

  • justamused

    Skip, you forget that the only reason the VietCong won and the Taliban will is the typical American politician has NO TESTICLES! Our current servicemembers WILL fire on American citizens because they have NO GUIDANCE. The current Army brass is teaching that ALL CHRISTIANS are terrorists! The average high school grad- the person behind the trigger, WILL FIRE simply because he was ordered to! The traits, once highly prized, patriotism, honor, duty ( to We the People- the TRUE government)
    has been co-opted by the communists (socialism is really just communism lite).
    PERSONAL GAIN is the driving force behind everything, it has been for some time.
    I saw plenty of numbskulls in the Army that would shoot their mother if ordered to!!!!!
    Instead of vague, pie-in-the-sky, personal thoughts maybe someone could try to survey the enlisted men (forget the officers-their egos get in the way of the truth).

  • justamused

    Skip, you forget that the only reason the VietCong won and the Taliban will is the typical American politician has NO TESTICLES! Our current servicemembers WILL fire on American citizens because they have NO GUIDANCE. The current Army brass is teaching that ALL CHRISTIANS are terrorists! The average high school grad- the person behind the trigger, WILL FIRE simply because he was ordered to! The traits, once highly prized, patriotism, honor, duty ( to We the People- the TRUE government)
    has been co-opted by the communists (socialism is really just communism lite).
    PERSONAL GAIN is the driving force behind everything, it has been for some time.
    I saw plenty of numbskulls in the Army that would shoot their mother if ordered to!!!!!
    Instead of vague, pie-in-the-sky, personal thoughts maybe someone could try to survey the enlisted men (forget the officers-their egos get in the way of the truth).

  • justamused

    Skip, you forget that the only reason the VietCong won and the Taliban will is the typical American politician has NO TESTICLES! Our current servicemembers WILL fire on American citizens because they have NO GUIDANCE. The current Army brass is teaching that ALL CHRISTIANS are terrorists! The average high school grad- the person behind the trigger, WILL FIRE simply because he was ordered to! The traits, once highly prized, patriotism, honor, duty ( to We the People- the TRUE government)
    has been co-opted by the communists (socialism is really just communism lite).
    PERSONAL GAIN is the driving force behind everything, it has been for some time.
    I saw plenty of numbskulls in the Army that would shoot their mother if ordered to!!!!!
    Instead of vague, pie-in-the-sky, personal thoughts maybe someone could try to survey the enlisted men (forget the officers-their egos get in the way of the truth).

  • karen yochim

    You left out another reason to resist….being forced to shut up about being a Christian. That’s in the wings…they’re trying it out first on the military to see if it flies. Lots of luck. If we won’t shut up what are they going to do about it? Can’t lock everybody up.

  • karen yochim

    You left out another reason to resist….being forced to shut up about being a Christian. That’s in the wings…they’re trying it out first on the military to see if it flies. Lots of luck. If we won’t shut up what are they going to do about it? Can’t lock everybody up.

  • AustinObserver

    Of course they will, they’re weak-minded, brainwashed and they want to keep their jobs.

  • AustinObserver

    Of course they will, they’re weak-minded, brainwashed and they want to keep their jobs.

  • AustinObserver

    Of course they will, they’re weak-minded, brainwashed and they want to keep their jobs.

  • AustinObserver

    Of course they will, they’re weak-minded, brainwashed and they want to keep their jobs.

  • bobbylang

    Obama is the man “IN Front of the curtain”!! George Soros, is the man behind the curtain!!

  • bobbylang

    Obama is the man “IN Front of the curtain”!! George Soros, is the man behind the curtain!!

  • Bob

    Obama is nothing more than a talking monkey’s head on the end of a stick….he couldn’t lead a two-car funeral. Back in 1926 a White Russian imigre by the name of Count Cherep-Spiridovich, who fled the bolscheviks of Russia and who knew their true identity and place of origin (New York’s Lower East Side), penned a book entitled THE SECRET GOVERNMENT (or The Hidden Hand—back in those days many books had two titles like that)….in which he detailed irrefutably how the parasite international banksters—the Rothschild dynasty controlled the governments of the world. Ovomit is nothing more than a throwaway tool of the stink rich…he is a self-serving institutionally narcissistic sonovabitch and richly deserves the rottenest death imaginable for the damage he has done—but he is till nothing more than a tool albeit a very willing one. Every bullet that killed an American serviceman in Iraq was fired from a desk on Wall Street and the sooner the Moron Majority gets that through their god damned thick skulls—assuming any of them give a rat’s ass about freedom anyway—-the better prepared for battle they will be. The real enemy is and always has been Wall Street. The White House is their puppet show for the befuddlement of the goyim whether anyone likes hearing that or not.

    • MildBill

      You lost me when you took the Lord’s name in vain. . . . The most important ally we have is The Lord. . . I certainly would not want to alienate him.

    • MildBill

      You lost me when you took the Lord’s name in vain. . . . The most important ally we have is The Lord. . . I certainly would not want to alienate him.

    • MildBill

      You lost me when you took the Lord’s name in vain. . . . The most important ally we have is The Lord. . . I certainly would not want to alienate him.

  • Bob

    Obama is nothing more than a talking monkey’s head on the end of a stick….he couldn’t lead a two-car funeral. Back in 1926 a White Russian imigre by the name of Count Cherep-Spiridovich, who fled the bolscheviks of Russia and who knew their true identity and place of origin (New York’s Lower East Side), penned a book entitled THE SECRET GOVERNMENT (or The Hidden Hand—back in those days many books had two titles like that)….in which he detailed irrefutably how the parasite international banksters—the Rothschild dynasty controlled the governments of the world. Ovomit is nothing more than a throwaway tool of the stink rich…he is a self-serving institutionally narcissistic sonovabitch and richly deserves the rottenest death imaginable for the damage he has done—but he is till nothing more than a tool albeit a very willing one. Every bullet that killed an American serviceman in Iraq was fired from a desk on Wall Street and the sooner the Moron Majority gets that through their god damned thick skulls—assuming any of them give a rat’s ass about freedom anyway—-the better prepared for battle they will be. The real enemy is and always has been Wall Street. The White House is their puppet show for the befuddlement of the goyim whether anyone likes hearing that or not.

  • Bob

    Obama is nothing more than a talking monkey’s head on the end of a stick….he couldn’t lead a two-car funeral. Back in 1926 a White Russian imigre by the name of Count Cherep-Spiridovich, who fled the bolscheviks of Russia and who knew their true identity and place of origin (New York’s Lower East Side), penned a book entitled THE SECRET GOVERNMENT (or The Hidden Hand—back in those days many books had two titles like that)….in which he detailed irrefutably how the parasite international banksters—the Rothschild dynasty controlled the governments of the world. Ovomit is nothing more than a throwaway tool of the stink rich…he is a self-serving institutionally narcissistic sonovabitch and richly deserves the rottenest death imaginable for the damage he has done—but he is till nothing more than a tool albeit a very willing one. Every bullet that killed an American serviceman in Iraq was fired from a desk on Wall Street and the sooner the Moron Majority gets that through their god damned thick skulls—assuming any of them give a rat’s ass about freedom anyway—-the better prepared for battle they will be. The real enemy is and always has been Wall Street. The White House is their puppet show for the befuddlement of the goyim whether anyone likes hearing that or not.

  • Bob

    Obama is nothing more than a talking monkey’s head on the end of a stick….he couldn’t lead a two-car funeral. Back in 1926 a White Russian imigre by the name of Count Cherep-Spiridovich, who fled the bolscheviks of Russia and who knew their true identity and place of origin (New York’s Lower East Side), penned a book entitled THE SECRET GOVERNMENT (or The Hidden Hand—back in those days many books had two titles like that)….in which he detailed irrefutably how the parasite international banksters—the Rothschild dynasty controlled the governments of the world. Ovomit is nothing more than a throwaway tool of the stink rich…he is a self-serving institutionally narcissistic sonovabitch and richly deserves the rottenest death imaginable for the damage he has done—but he is till nothing more than a tool albeit a very willing one. Every bullet that killed an American serviceman in Iraq was fired from a desk on Wall Street and the sooner the Moron Majority gets that through their god damned thick skulls—assuming any of them give a rat’s ass about freedom anyway—-the better prepared for battle they will be. The real enemy is and always has been Wall Street. The White House is their puppet show for the befuddlement of the goyim whether anyone likes hearing that or not.

  • Bob

    I told the widow of Robert Jay Matthews (Founder of the Order) once that her husband had been a true warrior—and flatly not, as some referred to him— any kind of “martyr”….a martyr freely gives his life for a cause….by distinction, a warrior makes the enemy pay for it quite dearly…….will you be a warrior?

  • Bob

    I told the widow of Robert Jay Matthews (Founder of the Order) once that her husband had been a true warrior—and flatly not, as some referred to him— any kind of “martyr”….a martyr freely gives his life for a cause….by distinction, a warrior makes the enemy pay for it quite dearly…….will you be a warrior?

  • Bob

    I told the widow of Robert Jay Matthews (Founder of the Order) once that her husband had been a true warrior—and flatly not, as some referred to him— any kind of “martyr”….a martyr freely gives his life for a cause….by distinction, a warrior makes the enemy pay for it quite dearly…….will you be a warrior?

  • Bob

    I told the widow of Robert Jay Matthews (Founder of the Order) once that her husband had been a true warrior—and flatly not, as some referred to him— any kind of “martyr”….a martyr freely gives his life for a cause….by distinction, a warrior makes the enemy pay for it quite dearly…….will you be a warrior?

  • b.zerker

    “It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from his government.” – Thomas Paine

  • b.zerker

    “It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from his government.” – Thomas Paine

  • b.zerker

    “It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from his government.” – Thomas Paine

  • b.zerker

    “It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from his government.” – Thomas Paine