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  • Mary

    Great article, Dean. I’m Catholic and Pelosi makes a mockery of everything Christianity stands for. It made me want to vomit when she had the nerve to sacroligisly say that abortion was sacred to her faith. I’m surprised that she didn’t burst into flames when she said that. I just pray that she does not die unrepented.

    • Lori

      I’m Catholic too and the only difference between Pelosi and the social agenda of the USCCB is the USCCB wants conscience rights. They’ve been pushing their socialist agenda for too long in public while staying private on the moral issues. The first editorial in a secular paper I’ve ever seen from a bishop was on the Immigration bill. The Catholics were also credited with getting Obamacare through. So there are a few good priests and bishops, but until the USCCB is abolished, I don’t trust them. They’ve sided with the democrats on everything and majority of Catholics voted for Obama, not once but twice. Billions from the gov’t trough(our tax dollars) filter through too many Catholic ‘charities’ to trust them.

      • astrojohn

        I’ve complained to our pastor (also Catholic) about all the social justice claptrap in our weekly bulletins and all he said was “we can agree to disagree.” I chose to disagree and reduced weekly donations…

        • yipyap

          You should instead choose to leave if you truly want to do what’s right

        • yipyap

          You should instead choose to leave if you truly want to do what’s right

        • yipyap

          You should instead choose to leave if you truly want to do what’s right

        • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

          Every Catholic Needs to Read This.
          http://www.wayoflife.org/database/loveerror.html

          • frogbalz

            So it sounds like you Calvinists are picking an old fight all over again?!?!
            It seems like you’ll have your hands full with the moon worshipers, but if you insist on alienating allies don’t look for help from us!

          • $26222150

            You must be a self-worshipper. The fact is, if you’re not a Calvinist, you make your god weak with false doctrine. It’s the same old same old, original sin: Wanting to be your own god. Well, you’re not God, and God doesn’t, and didn’t, “partner” with man in order to save him from eternal condemnation. It’s ludicrous to think He did. The arrogance of some is astounding.

          • $26222150

            You must be a self-worshipper. The fact is, if you’re not a Calvinist, you make your god weak with false doctrine. It’s the same old same old, original sin: Wanting to be your own god. Well, you’re not God, and God doesn’t, and didn’t, “partner” with man in order to save him from eternal condemnation. It’s ludicrous to think He did. The arrogance of some is astounding.

          • $26222150

            You must be a self-worshipper. The fact is, if you’re not a Calvinist, you make your god weak with false doctrine. It’s the same old same old, original sin: Wanting to be your own god. Well, you’re not God, and God doesn’t, and didn’t, “partner” with man in order to save him from eternal condemnation. It’s ludicrous to think He did. The arrogance of some is astounding.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            Is the Bible the sole authority for faith and practice? The Roman Catholic Church says it is not. The Vatican II Council affirmed that “both Scripture and Tradition must be accepted and honoured with equal feelings of devotion and reverence” (Vatican II documents, “Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation,” Chap. 2, 9, p. 682).

            Thus, Rome has boldly exalted its traditions to a status equal with Holy Scripture.

            http://www.wayoflife.org/database/soleauthority.html

          • Gwynn Ap Nudd

            Yes, that’s why there are thousands of Protestant Sects – thousands of interpretations of Scripture. Does a Code of Laws stop you on the road? Arrest you? Judge you? Grant mercy? No? So there is something more personal?

          • Gwynn Ap Nudd

            Yes, that’s why there are thousands of Protestant Sects – thousands of interpretations of Scripture. Does a Code of Laws stop you on the road? Arrest you? Judge you? Grant mercy? No? So there is something more personal?

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            There is only one way to Heaven and
            here is how to get there.

            http://www.chick.com/the_story_of_jesus/

          • frawgeyz

            Amen! No man comes to reconciliation with the Father save through Jesus!

          • frawgeyz

            Amen! No man comes to reconciliation with the Father save through Jesus!

          • frawgeyz

            Amen! No man comes to reconciliation with the Father save through Jesus!

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            There is only one way to Heaven and
            here is how to get there.

            http://www.chick.com/the_story_of_jesus/

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            There is only one way to Heaven and
            here is how to get there.

            http://www.chick.com/the_story_of_jesus/

          • Believer

            Answer me this; why does the Catholic church not ever teach

            “Ye must be born again” and why do they never teach from the books of Daniel or Revelation ? In all my years attending a church service with my wife ( I am not Catholic ) have I not heard any reference to these books which teach about the end days and salvation through the blood of Christ ?

          • Believer

            Answer me this; why does the Catholic church not ever teach

            “Ye must be born again” and why do they never teach from the books of Daniel or Revelation ? In all my years attending a church service with my wife ( I am not Catholic ) have I not heard any reference to these books which teach about the end days and salvation through the blood of Christ ?

          • Believer

            Answer me this; why does the Catholic church not ever teach

            “Ye must be born again” and why do they never teach from the books of Daniel or Revelation ? In all my years attending a church service with my wife ( I am not Catholic ) have I not heard any reference to these books which teach about the end days and salvation through the blood of Christ ?

          • Gwynn Ap Nudd

            Yes, that’s why there are thousands of Protestant Sects – thousands of interpretations of Scripture. Does a Code of Laws stop you on the road? Arrest you? Judge you? Grant mercy? No? So there is something more personal?

          • Kevin Peek

            The Bible itself says that it is not the sole authority for faith and practice (1 Timothy 3:15)–and the Tradition that is mentioned in that quote from Vatican II is the very source of the Bible–for the Gospels were spoken and taught before they were written down. Lastly it doesn’t “boldly exalt” anything–it says “equal feelings”. Please do not disgrace the Marines by not being fair, just and exact. I love the Marines and the Church and you too much to let you get away with that. Semper Fi.

          • grannie

            What? 1st Timothy 3:15 says :But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.” Please tell me how you get your interpretation that “the bible is not the sole authority for faith and practice.” The Bible is the inspired Holy Word of God.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            Well out Grannie. :-)

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            Well out Grannie. :-)

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            Well out Grannie. :-)

          • Kevin Peek

            St. Paul says, right there, that “the church of the living God” is”the pillar and ground of the truth.”

          • grannie

            You didn’t answer the question. God’s church is built on God’s truth, not on what any of the denominations may want to claim. There will be no catholic church, no protestant church, no sects. no cults when Christ returns to set up His government in Jerusalem.

          • Kevin Peek

            True, and God’s truth was given to the Apostles who wrote the New Testament portion of the Bible–which is how we know the Bible is true. The Church said it was! Thus the Truth came first, then the Church, then the Bible. The Truth is a Person , Jesus Christ, which the Bible itself admits it couldn’t fully capture (see end of Johns gospel).

          • Kevin Peek

            True, and God’s truth was given to the Apostles who wrote the New Testament portion of the Bible–which is how we know the Bible is true. The Church said it was! Thus the Truth came first, then the Church, then the Bible. The Truth is a Person , Jesus Christ, which the Bible itself admits it couldn’t fully capture (see end of Johns gospel).

          • Helen

            Why then did he say to Peter I build my Church upon this rock (Peter translated is Rock) and the gates of hell shall not prevail against her! Those were Jesus words. Also if he inspired the apostles to write the Bible why do you think there is error in the Catholic Bible? Do you think God would have allowed a misinterpretation of “His Word”? But also He said it is profitable to read the Bible which leaves open there is more than just the Bible!! Think through what I have said and go online to the Haycock Douay Rheims Bible. The Catholic Church was founded by God, not man. I am not saying that everyone in the Church or the Clergy is holy. No. All men are subject to sin. I am saying that the Church itself is Holy. One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic founded by Christ who is the 2nd person of the Holy Trinity. One God in three persons.

          • Helen

            Why then did he say to Peter I build my Church upon this rock (Peter translated is Rock) and the gates of hell shall not prevail against her! Those were Jesus words. Also if he inspired the apostles to write the Bible why do you think there is error in the Catholic Bible? Do you think God would have allowed a misinterpretation of “His Word”? But also He said it is profitable to read the Bible which leaves open there is more than just the Bible!! Think through what I have said and go online to the Haycock Douay Rheims Bible. The Catholic Church was founded by God, not man. I am not saying that everyone in the Church or the Clergy is holy. No. All men are subject to sin. I am saying that the Church itself is Holy. One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic founded by Christ who is the 2nd person of the Holy Trinity. One God in three persons.

          • grannie

            Matthew 16:18 “And I say unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” The words of Jesus, not mine. You have misquoted the bible. I know nothing of your catholic bible or your catholic church, but surely you have some misconceptions. 2nd Timothy 3:16 “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.” The bible is the inspired word of God and is given to us for the reasons stated above. We are to study and gain understanding of God’s holy will for all His children, therefore it is “profitable”. And Surely, God Himself is More than the bible. Revelation chapters 17 and 18 are very useful in study. Particularly Revelation 18:4 “And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” “Her” has been interpreted as the Church of Rome, developed on the model of the old Roman Empire which demanded idolatrous allegiance to the organizational structure. Tomorrow’s World Organization sends free booklets discussing the Return of Christ and other bibilical subjects. Their address is PO Box 3810, Charlotte NC 28227-8010, or their email address is http://www.tomorrowsworld.org.

          • Helen

            Why then did he say to Peter I build my Church upon this rock (Peter translated is Rock) and the gates of hell shall not prevail against her! Those were Jesus words. Also if he inspired the apostles to write the Bible why do you think there is error in the Catholic Bible? Do you think God would have allowed a misinterpretation of “His Word”? But also He said it is profitable to read the Bible which leaves open there is more than just the Bible!! Think through what I have said and go online to the Haycock Douay Rheims Bible. The Catholic Church was founded by God, not man. I am not saying that everyone in the Church or the Clergy is holy. No. All men are subject to sin. I am saying that the Church itself is Holy. One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic founded by Christ who is the 2nd person of the Holy Trinity. One God in three persons.

          • grannie

            You didn’t answer the question. God’s church is built on God’s truth, not on what any of the denominations may want to claim. There will be no catholic church, no protestant church, no sects. no cults when Christ returns to set up His government in Jerusalem.

          • grannie

            You didn’t answer the question. God’s church is built on God’s truth, not on what any of the denominations may want to claim. There will be no catholic church, no protestant church, no sects. no cults when Christ returns to set up His government in Jerusalem.

          • Kevin Peek

            St. Paul says, right there, that “the church of the living God” is”the pillar and ground of the truth.”

          • Kevin Peek

            St. Paul says, right there, that “the church of the living God” is”the pillar and ground of the truth.”

          • Helen

            Which has been re-interpreted by protestants 30,000 different times. I often read the St James (new and old version) it is really funny! Then I compare it to the Catholic Bible which was given and inspired by God to the Catholics of that time. He said do not add or subtract from what I say. Now, the St J version does a lot of that. even changes around the books of the Bible and leaves out which ever books they decide. The Bible is liken to a library and if you do not have all the departments you do no and cannot have the truth. They even change she to he when it suits them in talking against the Mother of God. They do not want to acknowledge the importance she play in the Bible and in our lives. Only tellin you what I have observed my l’il ole self.
            He also said it is profitable to read the Bible but that does not by any means indicate that that is all there is.

          • grannie

            Well, I am sure the Lord Jesus Christ is happy that you find The divinely inspired Word of God “funny”. What is your reference in changing “she to he”. And in no chapter or verse in the King James Bible is there any “talk against the Mother of God”. The Protestants do not worship Mary or pray to Mary, but we do revere her as the chosen Mother of Jesus, the Son of God.
            I really have no idea what you are talking about. Please give your references.

          • Helen

            Genesis 3:15, Ecclesiasticuss 24;14.16.24:25, 30-31, Matt 1:18:25,12:47-50 Luke 1:26-49.
            Remember Jesus was man but was more importantly Devine. God Chose Mary to be his mother, of all the women on earth He chose her. And also to be the mother of us all that is why we refer to her as Our Blessed Mother. We do not worship Mary but we do honor her. She is the only one in the world who never let Jesus down. Never. She immediately answered the Angel Gabrielle with a yes: “Be it done to me according to thy will”.
            I cannot understand why Protestants do not honor her. I had
            one protestant tell me he (Jesus) was just a man. What a profound nonsensical statement. How can anyone believe he was just a man?????

          • grannie

            It is known that some falsely claim to be “true followers of God.” That is why we have the warning from Jesus in Matthew 7:17-20 “Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. WHEREFORE BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM.” A true believer, Protestant or Catholic, knows that Jesus was/is the Son of Almighty Father God, sent to earth as a man to lead God’s children in God’s paths and deliver them from the evil one. We Do honor Mary as the chosen mother of Jesus. We do Not pray to her, neither do we worship her.
            Genesis 3:14-15 “And the Lord God said unto the serpent, because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life. And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.”….Bruise thy head refers to the seed of satan, the serpent…..bruise his heel refers to the seed of Eve. I don’t see where you get talking against Mary, Mother of Jesus from this reference.

          • grannie

            It is known that some falsely claim to be “true followers of God.” That is why we have the warning from Jesus in Matthew 7:17-20 “Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. WHEREFORE BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM.” A true believer, Protestant or Catholic, knows that Jesus was/is the Son of Almighty Father God, sent to earth as a man to lead God’s children in God’s paths and deliver them from the evil one. We Do honor Mary as the chosen mother of Jesus. We do Not pray to her, neither do we worship her.
            Genesis 3:14-15 “And the Lord God said unto the serpent, because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life. And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.”….Bruise thy head refers to the seed of satan, the serpent…..bruise his heel refers to the seed of Eve. I don’t see where you get talking against Mary, Mother of Jesus from this reference.

          • grannie

            It is known that some falsely claim to be “true followers of God.” That is why we have the warning from Jesus in Matthew 7:17-20 “Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. WHEREFORE BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM.” A true believer, Protestant or Catholic, knows that Jesus was/is the Son of Almighty Father God, sent to earth as a man to lead God’s children in God’s paths and deliver them from the evil one. We Do honor Mary as the chosen mother of Jesus. We do Not pray to her, neither do we worship her.
            Genesis 3:14-15 “And the Lord God said unto the serpent, because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life. And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.”….Bruise thy head refers to the seed of satan, the serpent…..bruise his heel refers to the seed of Eve. I don’t see where you get talking against Mary, Mother of Jesus from this reference.

          • Helen

            Genesis 3:15, Ecclesiasticuss 24;14.16.24:25, 30-31, Matt 1:18:25,12:47-50 Luke 1:26-49.
            Remember Jesus was man but was more importantly Devine. God Chose Mary to be his mother, of all the women on earth He chose her. And also to be the mother of us all that is why we refer to her as Our Blessed Mother. We do not worship Mary but we do honor her. She is the only one in the world who never let Jesus down. Never. She immediately answered the Angel Gabrielle with a yes: “Be it done to me according to thy will”.
            I cannot understand why Protestants do not honor her. I had
            one protestant tell me he (Jesus) was just a man. What a profound nonsensical statement. How can anyone believe he was just a man?????

          • Helen

            Genesis 3:15, Ecclesiasticuss 24;14.16.24:25, 30-31, Matt 1:18:25,12:47-50 Luke 1:26-49.
            Remember Jesus was man but was more importantly Devine. God Chose Mary to be his mother, of all the women on earth He chose her. And also to be the mother of us all that is why we refer to her as Our Blessed Mother. We do not worship Mary but we do honor her. She is the only one in the world who never let Jesus down. Never. She immediately answered the Angel Gabrielle with a yes: “Be it done to me according to thy will”.
            I cannot understand why Protestants do not honor her. I had
            one protestant tell me he (Jesus) was just a man. What a profound nonsensical statement. How can anyone believe he was just a man?????

          • grannie

            Well, I am sure the Lord Jesus Christ is happy that you find The divinely inspired Word of God “funny”. What is your reference in changing “she to he”. And in no chapter or verse in the King James Bible is there any “talk against the Mother of God”. The Protestants do not worship Mary or pray to Mary, but we do revere her as the chosen Mother of Jesus, the Son of God.
            I really have no idea what you are talking about. Please give your references.

          • grannie

            Well, I am sure the Lord Jesus Christ is happy that you find The divinely inspired Word of God “funny”. What is your reference in changing “she to he”. And in no chapter or verse in the King James Bible is there any “talk against the Mother of God”. The Protestants do not worship Mary or pray to Mary, but we do revere her as the chosen Mother of Jesus, the Son of God.
            I really have no idea what you are talking about. Please give your references.

          • Helen

            Which has been re-interpreted by protestants 30,000 different times. I often read the St James (new and old version) it is really funny! Then I compare it to the Catholic Bible which was given and inspired by God to the Catholics of that time. He said do not add or subtract from what I say. Now, the St J version does a lot of that. even changes around the books of the Bible and leaves out which ever books they decide. The Bible is liken to a library and if you do not have all the departments you do no and cannot have the truth. They even change she to he when it suits them in talking against the Mother of God. They do not want to acknowledge the importance she play in the Bible and in our lives. Only tellin you what I have observed my l’il ole self.
            He also said it is profitable to read the Bible but that does not by any means indicate that that is all there is.

          • grannie

            What? 1st Timothy 3:15 says :But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.” Please tell me how you get your interpretation that “the bible is not the sole authority for faith and practice.” The Bible is the inspired Holy Word of God.

          • jillocity

            what happens when Bible verses are taken out of context?

            1Timothy 3 in its entirety is actual instructions for…oh, heck, read it yourself:

            1 Timothy 3

            3 Here is a trustworthy saying: Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task.

            2 Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,

            3 not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.

            4 He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full respect.

            5 (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?)

            6 He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil.

            7 He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap.

            8 In the same way, deacons are to be worthy of respect, sincere, not indulging in much wine, and not pursuing dishonest gain.

            9 They must keep hold of the deep truths of the faith with a clear conscience.

            10 They must first be tested; and then if there is nothing against them, let them serve as deacons.

            11 In the same way, the women are to be worthy of respect, not malicious talkers but temperate and trustworthy in everything.

            12 A deacon must be faithful to his wife and must manage his children and his household well.

            13 Those who have served well gain an excellent standing and great assurance in their faith in Christ Jesus.

            14 Although I hope to come to you soon, I am writing you these instructions so that,

            15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.

            16 Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great:

            He appeared in the flesh,
            was vindicated by the Spirit,
            was seen by angels,
            was preached among the nations,
            was believed on in the world,
            was taken up in glory.

          • jillocity

            what happens when Bible verses are taken out of context?

            1Timothy 3 in its entirety is actual instructions for…oh, heck, read it yourself:

            1 Timothy 3

            3 Here is a trustworthy saying: Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task.

            2 Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,

            3 not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.

            4 He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full respect.

            5 (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?)

            6 He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil.

            7 He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap.

            8 In the same way, deacons are to be worthy of respect, sincere, not indulging in much wine, and not pursuing dishonest gain.

            9 They must keep hold of the deep truths of the faith with a clear conscience.

            10 They must first be tested; and then if there is nothing against them, let them serve as deacons.

            11 In the same way, the women are to be worthy of respect, not malicious talkers but temperate and trustworthy in everything.

            12 A deacon must be faithful to his wife and must manage his children and his household well.

            13 Those who have served well gain an excellent standing and great assurance in their faith in Christ Jesus.

            14 Although I hope to come to you soon, I am writing you these instructions so that,

            15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.

            16 Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great:

            He appeared in the flesh,
            was vindicated by the Spirit,
            was seen by angels,
            was preached among the nations,
            was believed on in the world,
            was taken up in glory.

          • jillocity

            what happens when Bible verses are taken out of context?

            1Timothy 3 in its entirety is actual instructions for…oh, heck, read it yourself:

            1 Timothy 3

            3 Here is a trustworthy saying: Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task.

            2 Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,

            3 not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.

            4 He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full respect.

            5 (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?)

            6 He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil.

            7 He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap.

            8 In the same way, deacons are to be worthy of respect, sincere, not indulging in much wine, and not pursuing dishonest gain.

            9 They must keep hold of the deep truths of the faith with a clear conscience.

            10 They must first be tested; and then if there is nothing against them, let them serve as deacons.

            11 In the same way, the women are to be worthy of respect, not malicious talkers but temperate and trustworthy in everything.

            12 A deacon must be faithful to his wife and must manage his children and his household well.

            13 Those who have served well gain an excellent standing and great assurance in their faith in Christ Jesus.

            14 Although I hope to come to you soon, I am writing you these instructions so that,

            15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.

            16 Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great:

            He appeared in the flesh,
            was vindicated by the Spirit,
            was seen by angels,
            was preached among the nations,
            was believed on in the world,
            was taken up in glory.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.
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          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.
          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.
          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.
          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            The Bible version issue made simple

            In simple layman’s language, Barry Burton explains the

            basic issues in the Bible version controversy…and makes

            it easy to understand why the King James is the only Bible

            you can trust.

            In Let’s Weigh The Evidence, you will learn the following:

            Origins of the King James Bible
            The King James Bible Version is from the Textus Receptus,

            or Received Text.

            Facts About the Vaticanus
            It leaves out 237 words, 452 clauses and 748 whole sentences,

            which hundreds of later copies agree together as having the same

            words in the same places.

            The Unreliability of the Siniaticus
            Examined by John Burgon, he writes about the Siniaticus,

            “On many occasions 10, 20, 30, 40 words are dropped through

            carelessness. Letters, words or even whole sentences are frequently

            written twice over, or begun and immediately cancelled; while that gross

            blunder, whereby a clause is omitted because it happens to end in the

            same words as the clause proceeding, occurs no less than 115 times

            in the New Testament.”

            Westcott and Hort
            Read quotes made by Hort: “The old dogmatic view of the Bible therefore,

            is not only open to attack from the standpoint of science and historical criticism,

            but if taken seriously itbecomes a danger to religion and public morals.”

            Copyrights
            The following versions have copyrights: Revised Standard Version,

            New American Standard, Living Bible, Good News Bible, New International Bible,

            New Scofield, and more. According to the New Standard Encyclopedia vol. 3, page 565,

            the definition of a copyright is, “The legal protection given to authors and artists to prevent

            reproduction of their work without their consent. The owner of a copyright has the exclusive

            right to print, reprint, publish, copy andsell the material covered by the copyright.” By taking

            out a copyright on a so-called “Bible”, the copyright owner admits that this is not “God’s Word”

            but “Their own words.”

            Side-by-side Verse Comparisons Show Modern Versions Have Attacked Fundamental Doctrines
            • Deity of Christ
            • Salvation by faith
            • Atonement
            • The Second Coming of Christ
            • The Virgin Birth of Christ

            and much, much more!

            http://www.chick.com/catalog/books/0184.asp

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            The Bible version issue made simple

            In simple layman’s language, Barry Burton explains the

            basic issues in the Bible version controversy…and makes

            it easy to understand why the King James is the only Bible

            you can trust.

            In Let’s Weigh The Evidence, you will learn the following:

            Origins of the King James Bible
            The King James Bible Version is from the Textus Receptus,

            or Received Text.

            Facts About the Vaticanus
            It leaves out 237 words, 452 clauses and 748 whole sentences,

            which hundreds of later copies agree together as having the same

            words in the same places.

            The Unreliability of the Siniaticus
            Examined by John Burgon, he writes about the Siniaticus,

            “On many occasions 10, 20, 30, 40 words are dropped through

            carelessness. Letters, words or even whole sentences are frequently

            written twice over, or begun and immediately cancelled; while that gross

            blunder, whereby a clause is omitted because it happens to end in the

            same words as the clause proceeding, occurs no less than 115 times

            in the New Testament.”

            Westcott and Hort
            Read quotes made by Hort: “The old dogmatic view of the Bible therefore,

            is not only open to attack from the standpoint of science and historical criticism,

            but if taken seriously itbecomes a danger to religion and public morals.”

            Copyrights
            The following versions have copyrights: Revised Standard Version,

            New American Standard, Living Bible, Good News Bible, New International Bible,

            New Scofield, and more. According to the New Standard Encyclopedia vol. 3, page 565,

            the definition of a copyright is, “The legal protection given to authors and artists to prevent

            reproduction of their work without their consent. The owner of a copyright has the exclusive

            right to print, reprint, publish, copy andsell the material covered by the copyright.” By taking

            out a copyright on a so-called “Bible”, the copyright owner admits that this is not “God’s Word”

            but “Their own words.”

            Side-by-side Verse Comparisons Show Modern Versions Have Attacked Fundamental Doctrines
            • Deity of Christ
            • Salvation by faith
            • Atonement
            • The Second Coming of Christ
            • The Virgin Birth of Christ

            and much, much more!

            http://www.chick.com/catalog/books/0184.asp

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            The Bible version issue made simple

            In simple layman’s language, Barry Burton explains the

            basic issues in the Bible version controversy…and makes

            it easy to understand why the King James is the only Bible

            you can trust.

            In Let’s Weigh The Evidence, you will learn the following:

            Origins of the King James Bible
            The King James Bible Version is from the Textus Receptus,

            or Received Text.

            Facts About the Vaticanus
            It leaves out 237 words, 452 clauses and 748 whole sentences,

            which hundreds of later copies agree together as having the same

            words in the same places.

            The Unreliability of the Siniaticus
            Examined by John Burgon, he writes about the Siniaticus,

            “On many occasions 10, 20, 30, 40 words are dropped through

            carelessness. Letters, words or even whole sentences are frequently

            written twice over, or begun and immediately cancelled; while that gross

            blunder, whereby a clause is omitted because it happens to end in the

            same words as the clause proceeding, occurs no less than 115 times

            in the New Testament.”

            Westcott and Hort
            Read quotes made by Hort: “The old dogmatic view of the Bible therefore,

            is not only open to attack from the standpoint of science and historical criticism,

            but if taken seriously itbecomes a danger to religion and public morals.”

            Copyrights
            The following versions have copyrights: Revised Standard Version,

            New American Standard, Living Bible, Good News Bible, New International Bible,

            New Scofield, and more. According to the New Standard Encyclopedia vol. 3, page 565,

            the definition of a copyright is, “The legal protection given to authors and artists to prevent

            reproduction of their work without their consent. The owner of a copyright has the exclusive

            right to print, reprint, publish, copy andsell the material covered by the copyright.” By taking

            out a copyright on a so-called “Bible”, the copyright owner admits that this is not “God’s Word”

            but “Their own words.”

            Side-by-side Verse Comparisons Show Modern Versions Have Attacked Fundamental Doctrines
            • Deity of Christ
            • Salvation by faith
            • Atonement
            • The Second Coming of Christ
            • The Virgin Birth of Christ

            and much, much more!

            http://www.chick.com/catalog/books/0184.asp

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            Did God preserve His words?

            Or does my Bible contain errors?

            If you believe God preserved His words, where can you find them?

            History shows that there are two streams of Bible texts, and they
            are not the same. Obviously, both of them cannot be correct.

            Respected linguist David Daniels proves beyond a doubt how we can
            know the King James Bible is God’s preserved words in English. He
            answers many of the difficult questions the so-called “experts” throw
            against the King James.

            Whether you want to defend the King James Bible or learn which Bible
            you can trust, you will find the answers here.

            http://www.chick.com/catalog/books/0122.asp

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            Did God preserve His words?

            Or does my Bible contain errors?

            If you believe God preserved His words, where can you find them?

            History shows that there are two streams of Bible texts, and they
            are not the same. Obviously, both of them cannot be correct.

            Respected linguist David Daniels proves beyond a doubt how we can
            know the King James Bible is God’s preserved words in English. He
            answers many of the difficult questions the so-called “experts” throw
            against the King James.

            Whether you want to defend the King James Bible or learn which Bible
            you can trust, you will find the answers here.

            http://www.chick.com/catalog/books/0122.asp

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            Did God preserve His words?

            Or does my Bible contain errors?

            If you believe God preserved His words, where can you find them?

            History shows that there are two streams of Bible texts, and they
            are not the same. Obviously, both of them cannot be correct.

            Respected linguist David Daniels proves beyond a doubt how we can
            know the King James Bible is God’s preserved words in English. He
            answers many of the difficult questions the so-called “experts” throw
            against the King James.

            Whether you want to defend the King James Bible or learn which Bible
            you can trust, you will find the answers here.

            http://www.chick.com/catalog/books/0122.asp

          • Panors77

            Your KJ translation CAN include errors. The cannon of scripture in 325AD was not King James english mind you. They were hebrew and greek. IE…….the KJ version is NOT “the” inspired translation any more than Joseph Smith’s goofy version is for the mormons.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            Not true.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            Not true.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            Not true.

          • Panors77

            Your KJ translation CAN include errors. The cannon of scripture in 325AD was not King James english mind you. They were hebrew and greek. IE…….the KJ version is NOT “the” inspired translation any more than Joseph Smith’s goofy version is for the mormons.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            The Bible isn’t just God’s ideas. It contains His actual words.

            The Bible is God’s book. He gave it by inspiration. The words of
            scripture are God’s words. But not only did God give His words to man, He also promised to preserve them… for specific reasons. They are shown to us in the Bible. We believe that we have the perfectly preserved words of
            God in our 1611 King James Bible, also called the “Authorized Version” or KJV.

            Today, hundreds of books call themselves Bibles. In this book you will see why
            they cannotall be the words of God and why only the 1611 KJV is God’s perfectly
            preserved words in English.

            http://www.chick.com/catalog/books/1261.asp

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            The Bible isn’t just God’s ideas. It contains His actual words.

            The Bible is God’s book. He gave it by inspiration. The words of
            scripture are God’s words. But not only did God give His words to man, He also promised to preserve them… for specific reasons. They are shown to us in the Bible. We believe that we have the perfectly preserved words of
            God in our 1611 King James Bible, also called the “Authorized Version” or KJV.

            Today, hundreds of books call themselves Bibles. In this book you will see why
            they cannotall be the words of God and why only the 1611 KJV is God’s perfectly
            preserved words in English.

            http://www.chick.com/catalog/books/1261.asp

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            The Bible isn’t just God’s ideas. It contains His actual words.

            The Bible is God’s book. He gave it by inspiration. The words of
            scripture are God’s words. But not only did God give His words to man, He also promised to preserve them… for specific reasons. They are shown to us in the Bible. We believe that we have the perfectly preserved words of
            God in our 1611 King James Bible, also called the “Authorized Version” or KJV.

            Today, hundreds of books call themselves Bibles. In this book you will see why
            they cannotall be the words of God and why only the 1611 KJV is God’s perfectly
            preserved words in English.

            http://www.chick.com/catalog/books/1261.asp

          • GerryMaine

            The KJV is the version ‘authorized’ by King James of England for use in all Church of England churches and seminaries. His ‘authorization’ has no bearing on its veracity or accuracy. Claiming that the 1611 KJV is entirely accurate means that you believe in unicorns. Numbers 23:22    “God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.” KJV

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.
          • jubilee

            the KJV even has a special numeric code, that the others doesn’t have
            I actually believe, in the 1980s, when many churches started into the NIV, Christians started tattooing, piercing etc IMO even though these bibles are OK to use in many areas. . the website that talks about the code is kingjamescode.com

          • jubilee

            the KJV even has a special numeric code, that the others doesn’t have
            I actually believe, in the 1980s, when many churches started into the NIV, Christians started tattooing, piercing etc IMO even though these bibles are OK to use in many areas. . the website that talks about the code is kingjamescode.com

          • jubilee

            the KJV even has a special numeric code, that the others doesn’t have
            I actually believe, in the 1980s, when many churches started into the NIV, Christians started tattooing, piercing etc IMO even though these bibles are OK to use in many areas. . the website that talks about the code is kingjamescode.com

          • JBQ21

            In the United States, the Catholic school system was started as a way to keep the KJV from being taught to immigrant Catholic Children. The Douay-Rheims translation was approved by the Vatican while the KJV was linked to Henry VIII who had been the most loyal of Catholics. I studied with a religious order whose purpose was to translate from Greek manuscripts such as the “Sinaiticus”. The KJV was accused of being a people’s translation. Unfortunately, this argument has now become moot because the Catholic Church appears to be throwing out the Bible in the name of tradition which is pure unadulterated heresy which can be attributed directly to the Jesuit order with the “black pope” as leader who will undoubtedly take on the new Jesuit pope in Francis. This is all about an accommodation between Marxism and Catholic socialists at Vatican II with maybe the devil mixed in as well.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            The Vatican has list of books that they do not
            want the catholics to read and the KJB is on that list.
            The KJB is on that list because it is God’s Word in
            the English language & because it exposes the

            Vatican for what it really is. God will someday destroy
            the Vatican.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            The Vatican has list of books that they do not
            want the catholics to read and the KJB is on that list.
            The KJB is on that list because it is God’s Word in
            the English language & because it exposes the

            Vatican for what it really is. God will someday destroy
            the Vatican.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            The Vatican has list of books that they do not
            want the catholics to read and the KJB is on that list.
            The KJB is on that list because it is God’s Word in
            the English language & because it exposes the

            Vatican for what it really is. God will someday destroy
            the Vatican.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.
          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.
          • GerryMaine

            The KJV is the version ‘authorized’ by King James of England for use in all Church of England churches and seminaries. His ‘authorization’ has no bearing on its veracity or accuracy. Claiming that the 1611 KJV is entirely accurate means that you believe in unicorns. Numbers 23:22    “God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.” KJV

          • GerryMaine

            The KJV is the version ‘authorized’ by King James of England for use in all Church of England churches and seminaries. His ‘authorization’ has no bearing on its veracity or accuracy. Claiming that the 1611 KJV is entirely accurate means that you believe in unicorns. Numbers 23:22    “God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.” KJV

          • frawgeyz

            “Sanctify them though thy truth: thy word is truth”. John 17:17
            John.1:14 The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us. Through His Word, the Lord and savior Jesus the Christ we are sanctified and made holy as there is no other name by which we will ever be saved! He was in” the beginning…..” Gen.1:1 and John 1:1 and is the Alpha and the Omega.
            Yes Raymond! He is able to preserve His words in the letter.
            God bless.

          • frawgeyz

            “Sanctify them though thy truth: thy word is truth”. John 17:17
            John.1:14 The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us. Through His Word, the Lord and savior Jesus the Christ we are sanctified and made holy as there is no other name by which we will ever be saved! He was in” the beginning…..” Gen.1:1 and John 1:1 and is the Alpha and the Omega.
            Yes Raymond! He is able to preserve His words in the letter.
            God bless.

          • frawgeyz

            “Sanctify them though thy truth: thy word is truth”. John 17:17
            John.1:14 The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us. Through His Word, the Lord and savior Jesus the Christ we are sanctified and made holy as there is no other name by which we will ever be saved! He was in” the beginning…..” Gen.1:1 and John 1:1 and is the Alpha and the Omega.
            Yes Raymond! He is able to preserve His words in the letter.
            God bless.

          • Panors77

            That’s where we part ways. The KJ version is from 1611 and was based on the texts available THEN. The New American Standard and the New International Version are based upon the newer found manuscripts that predate the masoretic texts that the KJ used. They overlap basically and the older manuscripts explain better the newer masoretics, STARTING with the Dead Sea Scrolls for example. Nice thing about Biblical studies and scripture is the more manuscripts we find the clearer the translastions become, as opposed to islam that took ONE manuscript out of a lottery then burned the rest.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            DEFECTS IN THE NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION By Dr. D. A. Waite 3

            There’s no way in the world to make a person change from an inferior product to one that is superior if it is “against his will” He may say “Yes” just to get’ you “off his back” but he will revert to the old paths as soon as you leave him alone.

            3. Forcing A Horse To Drink

            Here’s a third saying:

            “You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink.”

            Now, I’m not suggesting for one moment that our readers are “horses,” but the analogy is there just the same, is it not?

            Though I point out all of the glorious advantages of the superior King James Bible as I have in my # l494-P (187 large pages for a GIFT to DBS of $15.00), and though I show conclusively by 6,653 examples and illustrations of the inferiority of the NIV, I cannot make you do what you do not want to do, can I?

            4. The Made-Up Mind

            Here’s a fourth saying:

            “My mind is made up, don’t confuse me with the facts!”

            I hope there are at least a few people who will study the following documentation and research, which has examined this version and will reject the NIV as I have done. I hope they will label it a spurious work, undeserving to be called “The Word of God in English.” I hope they will take to heart my 6.653 reasons for this conclusion.

            B. The NEED of the HOUR

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            DEFECTS IN THE NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION By Dr. D. A. Waite 3

            There’s no way in the world to make a person change from an inferior product to one that is superior if it is “against his will” He may say “Yes” just to get’ you “off his back” but he will revert to the old paths as soon as you leave him alone.

            3. Forcing A Horse To Drink

            Here’s a third saying:

            “You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink.”

            Now, I’m not suggesting for one moment that our readers are “horses,” but the analogy is there just the same, is it not?

            Though I point out all of the glorious advantages of the superior King James Bible as I have in my # l494-P (187 large pages for a GIFT to DBS of $15.00), and though I show conclusively by 6,653 examples and illustrations of the inferiority of the NIV, I cannot make you do what you do not want to do, can I?

            4. The Made-Up Mind

            Here’s a fourth saying:

            “My mind is made up, don’t confuse me with the facts!”

            I hope there are at least a few people who will study the following documentation and research, which has examined this version and will reject the NIV as I have done. I hope they will label it a spurious work, undeserving to be called “The Word of God in English.” I hope they will take to heart my 6.653 reasons for this conclusion.

            B. The NEED of the HOUR

          • Panors77

            That’s where we part ways. The KJ version is from 1611 and was based on the texts available THEN. The New American Standard and the New International Version are based upon the newer found manuscripts that predate the masoretic texts that the KJ used. They overlap basically and the older manuscripts explain better the newer masoretics, STARTING with the Dead Sea Scrolls for example. Nice thing about Biblical studies and scripture is the more manuscripts we find the clearer the translastions become, as opposed to islam that took ONE manuscript out of a lottery then burned the rest.

          • JBQ21

            What Catholics now believe is that there are only two commandments. They are to love God and to love one’s neighbor. The Bible is obsolete and commenters such as “Raymond” make some very good points. Personal Christianity comes first with a relationship with Christ. The “church of the marketplace”” as superseding the sanctuary of “the Ark of the Covenant” is pure unadulterated heresy. John Milton in “On his blindness” said it best. “He also serves who only stands and waits”. JPII called it a “hidden super force” within the Catholic Church. It is nothing more than the mushroom effect of the gay infiltration of the clergy to the highest levels and with its attendant interlocking with radical feminist women who believe in abortion. The “Third Secret of Fatima” is all about the devil reaching into the Vatican itself and the retribution of the Almighty with the destruction of the Seven Hills. John XXIII ridiculed the three children as hysterical sheepherders from Portugal even as he was accused of being involved in Freemasonry.

          • Bobseeks

            Like all papist liars, you just pull something out of the Bible and lie about what it says. You are a disgrace to humanity with your vile lies.

          • bjreg3

            Speaking of a vile liar. You are a disgrace little man. Go crawl back under your rock.

          • Bobseeks

            Like all papist liars, you just pull something out of the Bible and lie about what it says. You are a disgrace to humanity with your vile lies.

          • Panors77

            Yet the oldest manuscripts of the Gospels DATE to within 40 years of Christ himself. YOu mention Timothy….THAT was a written letter from Paul to Timothy….NOT an oral tradition written down later.

          • Panors77

            Yet the oldest manuscripts of the Gospels DATE to within 40 years of Christ himself. YOu mention Timothy….THAT was a written letter from Paul to Timothy….NOT an oral tradition written down later.

          • Kevin Peek

            The Bible itself says that it is not the sole authority for faith and practice (1 Timothy 3:15)–and the Tradition that is mentioned in that quote from Vatican II is the very source of the Bible–for the Gospels were spoken and taught before they were written down. Lastly it doesn’t “boldly exalt” anything–it says “equal feelings”. Please do not disgrace the Marines by not being fair, just and exact. I love the Marines and the Church and you too much to let you get away with that. Semper Fi.

          • Kevin Peek

            The Bible itself says that it is not the sole authority for faith and practice (1 Timothy 3:15)–and the Tradition that is mentioned in that quote from Vatican II is the very source of the Bible–for the Gospels were spoken and taught before they were written down. Lastly it doesn’t “boldly exalt” anything–it says “equal feelings”. Please do not disgrace the Marines by not being fair, just and exact. I love the Marines and the Church and you too much to let you get away with that. Semper Fi.

          • Jane18

            Raymond, “tradition” will lead an easily deceived person to the wrong side of the abyss(Luke 16:19-31), and maybe to the lake of fire(hell) eventually……………….

          • Jane18

            Raymond, “tradition” will lead an easily deceived person to the wrong side of the abyss(Luke 16:19-31), and maybe to the lake of fire(hell) eventually……………….

          • Jane18

            Raymond, “tradition” will lead an easily deceived person to the wrong side of the abyss(Luke 16:19-31), and maybe to the lake of fire(hell) eventually……………….

          • Panors77

            Thank you!! I was just about to say “nola scriptura”!!

          • Panors77

            Thank you!! I was just about to say “nola scriptura”!!

          • JBQ21

            Tradition, according to Malachi Martin, Jesuit advisor at Vatican II, is now moving toward a world socialist government. That is why the American bishops with T Dolan in the lead refuse to criticize Obama because it will give support to the Republican Capitalist Party. This went to such an extreme that AB Raymond Burke was “run out of St. Louis” through a cabal of bishops for his criticism of abortion Catholic politicians. This was just before the election of 2008 and actually guaranteed the election of the Democratic slate even before Mr. McCain self destructed and shot himself in the foot by not vetting Ms. Palin. The Catholic Church is committed to world socialism and the Republican Party is toast in spite of the abortion and gay marriage planks of the Democrats. It makes one wonder just how far that the devil has infiltrated the Catholic Church and that was asked by the writer Malachi Martin.

          • John H. Kohlenberg

            If you want to know what Satan looks like look at Nancy Polosi’s picture in this article. She is real scary, and don’t even look like a human being.

          • John H. Kohlenberg

            If you want to know what Satan looks like look at Nancy Polosi’s picture in this article. She is real scary, and don’t even look like a human being.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            Is the Bible the sole authority for faith and practice? The Roman Catholic Church says it is not. The Vatican II Council affirmed that “both Scripture and Tradition must be accepted and honoured with equal feelings of devotion and reverence” (Vatican II documents, “Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation,” Chap. 2, 9, p. 682).

            Thus, Rome has boldly exalted its traditions to a status equal with Holy Scripture.

            http://www.wayoflife.org/database/soleauthority.html

          • Light_V_Dark

            Frog, 99.9% of Liberals are God-hating-Atheists. Licentious-Libertarians, same thing. Our Pharaoh is an Atheist, at BEST. Probably, a Stalinist-Bisexual-Muslim at worst.

            All I see on the blogs from MY SIDE, IS COWARDLY ADULT CHILDREN, sniping at different denominations, or, they want to CRUCIFY ME, for being so JUDGEMENTAL, AN HATER AND A WAR MONGER.

            Jesus LOVES A SUICIDE BOMBER AS MUCH AS HE DOES ME!

          • infadel

            You’re wrong “Jesus” lothes one who would take the life of an innocent & deems that he shall be condemmend to the bowels of hell with no chance for salvation.

          • Light_V_Dark

            No, I AM NOT WRONG. YOU ARE!

            Revelation 21 (WYC)

            6*And he said to me, It is done; I am alpha and omega, the beginning and the end. I shall give freely of the well of quick water to him that thirsteth [I shall give freely to the thristing of the well of quick water].______

            7*He that shall overcome, shall wield these things; and I shall be God to him, and he shall be son to me.___________

            8*But to FEAREDFUL MEN, AND UNBELIEVEFUL, AND CURSED, AND MAN-QUELLERS, AND FORNICATORS, AND TO WITCHES, AND TO WORSHIPPERS OF IDOLS, AND TO ALL LIARS, THE PART OF THEM SHALL BE IN THE POOL BURNING  WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE, THAT IS THE SECOND DEATH(^). 
            ——
            http://downloadpolitics.com/entry.php?95-Good-News-Atheists-GOD-DOES-NOT-LOVE-YOU!-EAT-SOME-%A1T-AND-DIE!

          • Light_V_Dark

            No, I AM NOT WRONG. YOU ARE!

            Revelation 21 (WYC)

            6*And he said to me, It is done; I am alpha and omega, the beginning and the end. I shall give freely of the well of quick water to him that thirsteth [I shall give freely to the thristing of the well of quick water].______

            7*He that shall overcome, shall wield these things; and I shall be God to him, and he shall be son to me.___________

            8*But to FEAREDFUL MEN, AND UNBELIEVEFUL, AND CURSED, AND MAN-QUELLERS, AND FORNICATORS, AND TO WITCHES, AND TO WORSHIPPERS OF IDOLS, AND TO ALL LIARS, THE PART OF THEM SHALL BE IN THE POOL BURNING  WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE, THAT IS THE SECOND DEATH(^). 
            ——
            http://downloadpolitics.com/entry.php?95-Good-News-Atheists-GOD-DOES-NOT-LOVE-YOU!-EAT-SOME-%A1T-AND-DIE!

          • Light_V_Dark

            No, I AM NOT WRONG. YOU ARE!

            Revelation 21 (WYC)

            6*And he said to me, It is done; I am alpha and omega, the beginning and the end. I shall give freely of the well of quick water to him that thirsteth [I shall give freely to the thristing of the well of quick water].______

            7*He that shall overcome, shall wield these things; and I shall be God to him, and he shall be son to me.___________

            8*But to FEAREDFUL MEN, AND UNBELIEVEFUL, AND CURSED, AND MAN-QUELLERS, AND FORNICATORS, AND TO WITCHES, AND TO WORSHIPPERS OF IDOLS, AND TO ALL LIARS, THE PART OF THEM SHALL BE IN THE POOL BURNING  WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE, THAT IS THE SECOND DEATH(^). 
            ——
            http://downloadpolitics.com/entry.php?95-Good-News-Atheists-GOD-DOES-NOT-LOVE-YOU!-EAT-SOME-%A1T-AND-DIE!

          • infadel

            You’re wrong “Jesus” lothes one who would take the life of an innocent & deems that he shall be condemmend to the bowels of hell with no chance for salvation.

          • Light_V_Dark

            Frog, 99.9% of Liberals are God-hating-Atheists. Licentious-Libertarians, same thing. Our Pharaoh is an Atheist, at BEST. Probably, a Stalinist-Bisexual-Muslim at worst.

            All I see on the blogs from MY SIDE, IS COWARDLY ADULT CHILDREN, sniping at different denominations, or, they want to CRUCIFY ME, for being so JUDGEMENTAL, AN HATER AND A WAR MONGER.

            Jesus LOVES A SUICIDE BOMBER AS MUCH AS HE DOES ME!

          • frogbalz

            So it sounds like you Calvinists are picking an old fight all over again?!?!
            It seems like you’ll have your hands full with the moon worshipers, but if you insist on alienating allies don’t look for help from us!

          • Kevin Peek

            The article you link to ends with the sentence: “The Holy Spirit is “the Spirit of Truth,” and it is evident that the spirit leading the Charismatic movement into fellowship with Roman Catholicism is NOT the Holy Spirit.”

            That’s a pretty bold statement…what if he’s wrong? Or do you consider him infallible–thereby making him a quasi-pope?

          • grannie

            What if he’s right? Matthew 7:18 “A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.”
            20 “Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.”

          • Kevin Peek

            Yes and the fruit is that 67% of the Christian world believes almost completely as the Catholic Church teaches, and the rest of the Protestant world is fractured over 30000 different denominations. If the Church descended from the Apostles is in error, then Jesus failed to fulfill promise to lead us to all truth.

          • Bobseeks

            The catholic church did not descend from the apostles – that is a lie that is not supported by Scripture. Of course, you can invent another lie like you did earlier to “prove” your lie.

          • Bobseeks

            The catholic church did not descend from the apostles – that is a lie that is not supported by Scripture. Of course, you can invent another lie like you did earlier to “prove” your lie.

          • bjreg3

            Try again…..

          • bjreg3

            Try again…..

          • bjreg3

            Try again…..

          • grannie

            To suggest that Jesus failed to fulfill His sacred promise is heresy. Shame! I don’t know where you get your percentage claim, but I do know you are in error. The catholic church did not descend from the apostles. I don’t know where that claim comes from. It certainly isn’t upheld in the Bible. When Jesus referred to the fruits, He was talking about the results of His people’s work in His name. And He was warning about false teachers and false leaders.

          • Kevin Peek

            You missed my point. The thought that Jesus could fail to deliver is truly heresy–which is why I made that point. The Protestant church is so divided on its doctrine (pre-millennial, post-millennial, necessity of baptism, divorce legitimacy, homosexuality, abortion, IVF, contraception), and the various competing ministers all claim to be using the same Bible guided by the same Spirit. But the Spirit is not schizophrenic. While many so-called Catholics may hold varying positions of belief, there is a definitive voice teaching the same unchanging doctrine “yesterday, today, and forever.” In the acts of the Apostles we see the establishment of the infrastructure of an organized community of believers lead by bishops, presbyters/priests, and deacons. From letters of these communities following the death of Peter and Paul to the leader of the church in Rome we see that the universal church still looked to the successor of Peter as bishop of Rome for their guidance and unity. The first list of what would be legitimate new testament biblical texts weren’t put together til the 300′s, and they were determined by these descendants of the apostles. Who were they? Who kept the record of their meetings and decisions? Who commissioned the first translation of all the separate books of the Bonle into one common language of the people? This same group…the bishops of the Catholic Church. I have heard several times in this thread that the Catholic Church was not descended from the Apostles. Well since no Protestant churches were around til 1517, what church did come from Acts? And where did the Catholic Church come from?

          • Panors77

            The catholic church came from the cathars and were a few hundred years AFTER the council of Nicea in 325AD. First official “pope” was Gregory the first in 570AD. Before that there was no “catholic church” but was just the scattererd Christian church. Also remember that those texts that were “put together” at that council were thousands of years old OT and the NT texts date to within 40 years of Christ himself.

          • Panors77

            The catholic church came from the cathars and were a few hundred years AFTER the council of Nicea in 325AD. First official “pope” was Gregory the first in 570AD. Before that there was no “catholic church” but was just the scattererd Christian church. Also remember that those texts that were “put together” at that council were thousands of years old OT and the NT texts date to within 40 years of Christ himself.

          • Panors77

            The catholic church came from the cathars and were a few hundred years AFTER the council of Nicea in 325AD. First official “pope” was Gregory the first in 570AD. Before that there was no “catholic church” but was just the scattererd Christian church. Also remember that those texts that were “put together” at that council were thousands of years old OT and the NT texts date to within 40 years of Christ himself.

          • Kevin Peek

            You missed my point. The thought that Jesus could fail to deliver is truly heresy–which is why I made that point. The Protestant church is so divided on its doctrine (pre-millennial, post-millennial, necessity of baptism, divorce legitimacy, homosexuality, abortion, IVF, contraception), and the various competing ministers all claim to be using the same Bible guided by the same Spirit. But the Spirit is not schizophrenic. While many so-called Catholics may hold varying positions of belief, there is a definitive voice teaching the same unchanging doctrine “yesterday, today, and forever.” In the acts of the Apostles we see the establishment of the infrastructure of an organized community of believers lead by bishops, presbyters/priests, and deacons. From letters of these communities following the death of Peter and Paul to the leader of the church in Rome we see that the universal church still looked to the successor of Peter as bishop of Rome for their guidance and unity. The first list of what would be legitimate new testament biblical texts weren’t put together til the 300′s, and they were determined by these descendants of the apostles. Who were they? Who kept the record of their meetings and decisions? Who commissioned the first translation of all the separate books of the Bonle into one common language of the people? This same group…the bishops of the Catholic Church. I have heard several times in this thread that the Catholic Church was not descended from the Apostles. Well since no Protestant churches were around til 1517, what church did come from Acts? And where did the Catholic Church come from?

          • grannie

            To suggest that Jesus failed to fulfill His sacred promise is heresy. Shame! I don’t know where you get your percentage claim, but I do know you are in error. The catholic church did not descend from the apostles. I don’t know where that claim comes from. It certainly isn’t upheld in the Bible. When Jesus referred to the fruits, He was talking about the results of His people’s work in His name. And He was warning about false teachers and false leaders.

          • grannie

            To suggest that Jesus failed to fulfill His sacred promise is heresy. Shame! I don’t know where you get your percentage claim, but I do know you are in error. The catholic church did not descend from the apostles. I don’t know where that claim comes from. It certainly isn’t upheld in the Bible. When Jesus referred to the fruits, He was talking about the results of His people’s work in His name. And He was warning about false teachers and false leaders.

          • grannie

            What if he’s right? Matthew 7:18 “A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.”
            20 “Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.”

          • dmr2701

            I would say that both the Charismatic movement and Catholicism are steeped in heresy and neither has the Holy Spirit. I would agree that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of truth, even as Jesus taught. If you want examples of that heresy in the Charis. Mov. just ask. I’ve already listed a few examples of heresy in the Catholic church. Suffice it to say that to teach “another gospel” than the one taught by the Lord Jesus is heresy and all that do such are cursed by God.

          • Kevin Peek

            The article you link to ends with the sentence: “The Holy Spirit is “the Spirit of Truth,” and it is evident that the spirit leading the Charismatic movement into fellowship with Roman Catholicism is NOT the Holy Spirit.”

            That’s a pretty bold statement…what if he’s wrong? Or do you consider him infallible–thereby making him a quasi-pope?

          • JBQ21

            Pretty rough treatment of Catholicity my good USMC friend. There is a “germ” of truth. The “mustard seed” is a germ which grows into a mighty tree. Vatican II was a disaster and the USCCB has made a deal with the Democrats to harp social justice and tear down the sanctuary and make it into a meeting hall. Someone does need to step up and “throw the money changers” out of the Catholic Temple. Good priests are being driven off and replaced with gay ones who are in league with the coming of feminist (read radical thespian) pastoral associates who will be pastors. You have a point and the Catholic Church has been entered by Satan and his sign is confusion. The idea that Mary, His greatest creature, is a co-redemptrix makes the entire reform of Vatican II into a joke. Pius XII was indeed a saint for walking the tightrope between National Socialism and Communism. John XXIII has lots to answer for his accommodation with Communism.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            “Pretty rough treatment of Catholicity my good USMC friend”

            The truth is the truth.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            “Pretty rough treatment of Catholicity my good USMC friend”

            The truth is the truth.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            “Pretty rough treatment of Catholicity my good USMC friend”

            The truth is the truth.

          • JBQ21

            Pretty rough treatment of Catholicity my good USMC friend. There is a “germ” of truth. The “mustard seed” is a germ which grows into a mighty tree. Vatican II was a disaster and the USCCB has made a deal with the Democrats to harp social justice and tear down the sanctuary and make it into a meeting hall. Someone does need to step up and “throw the money changers” out of the Catholic Temple. Good priests are being driven off and replaced with gay ones who are in league with the coming of feminist (read radical thespian) pastoral associates who will be pastors. You have a point and the Catholic Church has been entered by Satan and his sign is confusion. The idea that Mary, His greatest creature, is a co-redemptrix makes the entire reform of Vatican II into a joke. Pius XII was indeed a saint for walking the tightrope between National Socialism and Communism. John XXIII has lots to answer for his accommodation with Communism.

          • JBQ21

            Pretty rough treatment of Catholicity my good USMC friend. There is a “germ” of truth. The “mustard seed” is a germ which grows into a mighty tree. Vatican II was a disaster and the USCCB has made a deal with the Democrats to harp social justice and tear down the sanctuary and make it into a meeting hall. Someone does need to step up and “throw the money changers” out of the Catholic Temple. Good priests are being driven off and replaced with gay ones who are in league with the coming of feminist (read radical thespian) pastoral associates who will be pastors. You have a point and the Catholic Church has been entered by Satan and his sign is confusion. The idea that Mary, His greatest creature, is a co-redemptrix makes the entire reform of Vatican II into a joke. Pius XII was indeed a saint for walking the tightrope between National Socialism and Communism. John XXIII has lots to answer for his accommodation with Communism.

        • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

          Every Catholic Needs to Read This.
          http://www.wayoflife.org/database/loveerror.html

        • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

          Every Catholic Needs to Read This.
          http://www.wayoflife.org/database/loveerror.html

        • Jane18

          astro, those donations are going to further what is being taught and told(social justice claptrap) in your belief and church. Have you ever considered you may be in the “wrong” building and “division of religion”?

        • Jane18

          astro, those donations are going to further what is being taught and told(social justice claptrap) in your belief and church. Have you ever considered you may be in the “wrong” building and “division of religion”?

        • bitterrootbill

          I was raised in the Catholic church. Just need to say that as a preface to this:http://www.gty.org/resources/sermon-series/296/explaining-the-heresy-of-catholicism

          Please take some time and read this. I do not post this as an affront to anyone here..I simply ask you to save your soul. God bless you.

          • Kevin Peek

            Please find, in official Catholic teaching, where these things are addressed. When I question Muslims, I don’t read what Christians say about them–because there might be an agenda at work. Rather I read what the Muslims actually say. The article you linked to is inaccurate and incomplete. Catholics do not believe as this man says.

          • bitterrootbill

            Sure. Assuming you know the first Commandment, how is the worship of The Virgin Mary NOT idolatry? God does not share His Glory!
            You pray to her regularly using the rosary. The rosary is a series
            of ten prayers, there are five of the tens making 50 prayers, and there
            are five prayers in between. The 50 are to Mary, the five are to God.
            There are five “Our Fathers,” there are 50 “Hail Marys.” For every time
            you pray once to God the Father, you pray ten times to Mary… five
            to God, fifty to Mary.

            This is no different than worshiping Baal
            or Molech or Caesar or Buddha or Krishna or Haile Selassie. And the
            whole cult of Mary worship would be an unspeakable horror to Mary if she
            ever knew, she never will. Neither will any prayers to her ever be answered. She is dead! Praying to the dead is blasphemy in the first degree.

          • Kevin Peek

            Please find, in official Catholic teaching, where these things are addressed. When I question Muslims, I don’t read what Christians say about them–because there might be an agenda at work. Rather I read what the Muslims actually say. The article you linked to is inaccurate and incomplete. Catholics do not believe as this man says.

          • Kevin Peek

            Please find, in official Catholic teaching, where these things are addressed. When I question Muslims, I don’t read what Christians say about them–because there might be an agenda at work. Rather I read what the Muslims actually say. The article you linked to is inaccurate and incomplete. Catholics do not believe as this man says.

        • bitterrootbill

          I was raised in the Catholic church. Just need to say that as a preface to this:http://www.gty.org/resources/sermon-series/296/explaining-the-heresy-of-catholicism

          Please take some time and read this. I do not post this as an affront to anyone here..I simply ask you to save your soul. God bless you.

      • eyeball

        Would you be more specific about the “billions filtering through” for me? I also have to ask , How did “the Catholics” ‘get obamacare through’? I’m also Catholic. I’m NOT one of those who voted for this mockery. Are you a Catholic from one of those parishes in which priests were sinning on the side and were discovered? Are you a pre-vatican II Catholic? I get a sense of anger and disappointment from your blog.

      • eyeball

        Would you be more specific about the “billions filtering through” for me? I also have to ask , How did “the Catholics” ‘get obamacare through’? I’m also Catholic. I’m NOT one of those who voted for this mockery. Are you a Catholic from one of those parishes in which priests were sinning on the side and were discovered? Are you a pre-vatican II Catholic? I get a sense of anger and disappointment from your blog.

      • eyeball

        Would you be more specific about the “billions filtering through” for me? I also have to ask , How did “the Catholics” ‘get obamacare through’? I’m also Catholic. I’m NOT one of those who voted for this mockery. Are you a Catholic from one of those parishes in which priests were sinning on the side and were discovered? Are you a pre-vatican II Catholic? I get a sense of anger and disappointment from your blog.

        • Lori

          I am a faithful Catholic and love the beauty of the faith. My Church is a very healthy mega church in Indiana. The past 5 years I’ve been saddened and very disappointed watching the politics of our Church. I was told the Church wasn’t political and they were bipartisan…well I’ve learned differently. Not only have I been greatly saddened by what they push and what they are silent on …like repeal of DADT but how they silence people who get in their way. For example, Indiana Right to Life mentioned it could not support the democrats because of their prochoice votes. The Church lobbyist then sent out a letter to all the churches saying you can’t support or have IRTL speak because they are not bipartisan. It’s not their job to be bipartisan they stand for life always. Anyway, it was essentially a favor to the Catholic democrats or a political move to stay cozy with them because they are the ones that vote for the legislation that keeps the Church well funded for social justice causes.

          Catholic Charity last year got 4 billion dollars and 65% was from gov’t money…our tax dollars. Then there are the billions that the Catholic universities, hospitals and nursing homes get in gov’t money as well as my own Catholic elementary school that says it’s free but gets state funding to be state accredited. The Church gets too many grants and entitlements from the gov’t for their ‘good work’ so the leaders cozy up to the democrats. Just look at Dolan inviting Obama to the Al Smith dinner and calling him ‘honorable’. Or making sure he doesn’t offend Andrew Cuomo by making sure his diocesan office publicly stated Cuomo is “a CAtholic in good standing”. Meanwhile Cuomo has single handely delivered same sex marriage to NY and most recently tried to have the most liberal abortion laws in the country…but Dolan still says he’s a Catholic in good standing!

          The USCCB sponsors annual fundraising for their cherished Catholic Campaign for Human Development which has funded many community organization like ACORN and others who support abortion and others things not aligned with our beliefs. They never collect nationally for pro life though but for the poor it’s their bread and butter.

          As far as Obamacare, the USCCB and their lobbyist, mine happens to be the Indiana Catholic Conference, of which I get their urgent emails requesting to support certain legislation. Recently it was the immigration bill, look at former NY leiutinent governor’s video. http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/11/betsy-mccaughey-on-how-she-took-apart-the-gang-of-8-immigration-bill-video/ Anyway, the USCCB promoted and pushed for Obamacare with ‘abortion neutral’ language and a few prominent Bishops went to Nancy Pelosi’s office to beg for it since they believe in universal healthcare. It was Catholic Health Association who was credited with greasing the wheels to get it passed. They did a number on Stupek. As we now know, Obama isn’t to be trust but the USCCB still sides with the liberal legislation that allows for ever broadening gov’t largess and control.

          The USCCB sounds patriotic and republican, loving our religious freedoms, but ultimatley our Church leaders are democratic socialist. Look at what Benedict says in this article,http://www.firstthings.com/article/2008/04/europe-and-its-discontents—50 Basically he thinks democratic socialism is the ‘closest thing to Catholic thought’. It would be great if we were all Christians and did not suffer from sin like greed and pride but that isn’t the real world. Our founding fathers of American knew this and so put in checks and balances. They knew the danger of a large gov’t and what would happen if the gov’t started handing out goodies so had checks and balances. We’ve destroyed this because we’ve all been lazy and comfortable. We’ve allowed the politician to hand out our money for all sorts of ‘good’ causes. Yes, some of them are good but is that really the gov’t job? We’ve gone over board and now it’s a little too late.

          My own city, run by a Catholic mayor, has been caught spending TIF money without representation. It’s centralized planning gone amok and now we are in debt but the city looks so pretty and the numb citizen votes for him again. Just like the citizen who votes for the democrat or RINO because he will give him goodies. It’s sounds so good but in the end is evil.

          • Jab

            Great reply! The USCCB is also responsible for bringing muslim refugees to the state of Tennessee in huge numbers. They are paid by the government for each individual. As soon as they arrive they get housing, food stamps, etc. at our expense.

          • Lori

            My parish has a clinic that is touted as ‘free’ but gets gov’t grants and my friend gets paid $15 per hour as a translator for the illegal immigrant.

            I saw Dolan on EWTN talking about the Mosque at ground zero and he was applauding Mayor Bloomberg on a great job. He was perfectly fine with the mosque being built because as he said, he see himself as a ‘bridge builder’. I worry we are building a bridge to hell.

          • Lori

            My parish has a clinic that is touted as ‘free’ but gets gov’t grants and my friend gets paid $15 per hour as a translator for the illegal immigrant.

            I saw Dolan on EWTN talking about the Mosque at ground zero and he was applauding Mayor Bloomberg on a great job. He was perfectly fine with the mosque being built because as he said, he see himself as a ‘bridge builder’. I worry we are building a bridge to hell.

          • Lori

            My parish has a clinic that is touted as ‘free’ but gets gov’t grants and my friend gets paid $15 per hour as a translator for the illegal immigrant.

            I saw Dolan on EWTN talking about the Mosque at ground zero and he was applauding Mayor Bloomberg on a great job. He was perfectly fine with the mosque being built because as he said, he see himself as a ‘bridge builder’. I worry we are building a bridge to hell.

          • Jab

            Great reply! The USCCB is also responsible for bringing muslim refugees to the state of Tennessee in huge numbers. They are paid by the government for each individual. As soon as they arrive they get housing, food stamps, etc. at our expense.

          • kushisaac

            sounds like the Roman Catholic church is in need of a reformation, maybe they’ll isten this time.

          • Gwynn Ap Nudd

            The Protestant Advisors said at Vatican Two, “This time we’re staying in”. The New Mass is a Protestant Service.

          • Gwynn Ap Nudd

            The Protestant Advisors said at Vatican Two, “This time we’re staying in”. The New Mass is a Protestant Service.

          • Gwynn Ap Nudd

            The Protestant Advisors said at Vatican Two, “This time we’re staying in”. The New Mass is a Protestant Service.

          • Bobseeks

            No, read the posts of the catholics – they are beyond reason. They support murder in one hand and help it with the other.

          • kushisaac

            sounds like the Roman Catholic church is in need of a reformation, maybe they’ll isten this time.

          • kushisaac

            sounds like the Roman Catholic church is in need of a reformation, maybe they’ll isten this time.

          • Kevin Peek

            Sorry you have to put up with this. News like this from all over—so it was during the times of the Arian heresy. St. Athanasius, a bishop, was exiled five times from his own diocese because he was standing up to all the nonsense. Rome continues to speak the truth, and the internet and social media only make it that much easier to stay in touch with what the Pope is saying. Find the good priests who are faithfully following the Holy Father and calling out the issues and support them. Changes are coming….

          • grannie

            I am not Catholic, and I do not understand your reference to “Holy Father”. The Holy Father is Father God Almighty, not the pope.

          • grannie

            I am not Catholic, and I do not understand your reference to “Holy Father”. The Holy Father is Father God Almighty, not the pope.

          • Jane18

            Same goes for “reverend”, grannie! It amazes me that there are soooooo many men and women that call themselves “the
            reverend so-and-so”, and the word “reverend” is written one time in our Bible, and it is……………..whose name? GOD’s!! Psalm111:9

          • Jane18

            Same goes for “reverend”, grannie! It amazes me that there are soooooo many men and women that call themselves “the
            reverend so-and-so”, and the word “reverend” is written one time in our Bible, and it is……………..whose name? GOD’s!! Psalm111:9

          • grannie

            I am not Catholic, and I do not understand your reference to “Holy Father”. The Holy Father is Father God Almighty, not the pope.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            Publishers Must Make New Bibles
            Harder to Read or Give Up Copyright Dollars
            Gail Riplinger’s new book Which Bible Is God’s Word? contains answers
            to common questions concerning modern versions and translations.
            The following is a sampling:

            Isn’t the KJV difficult to read?: “According to copyright law, new Bible
            versions can only be copyrighted as ‘derivative works.’ Words must be
            changed whether they need to be changed or not. New versions may
            update that one archaic word in eight thousand in the KJV, but they must
            change many other words, actually making it more difficult to read.

            “When you subject the new versions and the King James Version to the
            Flesch-Kincaid grade level formula you discover that the King James
            Version is fifth grade level…” The other versions go up from there in
            difficulty to read.

            “The reason the KJV reads more easily is because, according to a study
            done at Bob Jones University, ninety-five percent of its words are one or
            two syllable Anglo-Saxon words.

            “Since the KJV has laid claim to these first, the derivative copyright works
            must replace them with harder, Latinized words which always have three
            or four syllables; many have suffixes and prefixes.”

            There are too many thee’s and ye’s in the KJV: “New versions boast of their
            substitution of the word ‘you’ for the archaic ‘ye’ and ‘thee,’ but do not notice
            that the KJV uses the word ‘you’ two thousand times.

            “It only uses ‘ye’ and ‘thee’ when needed, to distinguish between the Greek
            singular and plural; ‘ye’ is plural, and ‘thee’ is singular. By using those
            particular renderings, the KJV gives exact representation of the Greek word.

            I’m not a scholar. These changes aren’t really important, are they?: “You cannot
            casually detect a land mine, but it is deadly. Many today, and I include myself
            among those, are too casual with Bible reading; we are not as careful as we should be.

            “Dr. Logsdon, who renounced his involvement with the New American Standard Bible,
            said the reason few notice the changes is because, ‘It is done so subtly that very few
            would discover it.’”

            Isn’t the New King James as reliable as the KJV?: “The deity of Christ has disappeared
            in a number of places in the New King James. The KJV verses in Acts 3:13, 26 that say
            Jesus Christ is the ‘Son’ of God, is changed in the New King James to say he is a mere
            ‘servant.’

            “There are a lot of New Age renderings in the New King James. They consistently
            substitute the term ‘the Christ’ for ‘Christ.’

            “Liberty University’s dean, Norman Geisler, says, ‘We should be particularly wary
            when someone refers to Jesus Christ as ‘the Christ.’”

            http://www.chick.com/information/bibleversions/articles/copyright.asp

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            Publishers Must Make New Bibles
            Harder to Read or Give Up Copyright Dollars
            Gail Riplinger’s new book Which Bible Is God’s Word? contains answers
            to common questions concerning modern versions and translations.
            The following is a sampling:

            Isn’t the KJV difficult to read?: “According to copyright law, new Bible
            versions can only be copyrighted as ‘derivative works.’ Words must be
            changed whether they need to be changed or not. New versions may
            update that one archaic word in eight thousand in the KJV, but they must
            change many other words, actually making it more difficult to read.

            “When you subject the new versions and the King James Version to the
            Flesch-Kincaid grade level formula you discover that the King James
            Version is fifth grade level…” The other versions go up from there in
            difficulty to read.

            “The reason the KJV reads more easily is because, according to a study
            done at Bob Jones University, ninety-five percent of its words are one or
            two syllable Anglo-Saxon words.

            “Since the KJV has laid claim to these first, the derivative copyright works
            must replace them with harder, Latinized words which always have three
            or four syllables; many have suffixes and prefixes.”

            There are too many thee’s and ye’s in the KJV: “New versions boast of their
            substitution of the word ‘you’ for the archaic ‘ye’ and ‘thee,’ but do not notice
            that the KJV uses the word ‘you’ two thousand times.

            “It only uses ‘ye’ and ‘thee’ when needed, to distinguish between the Greek
            singular and plural; ‘ye’ is plural, and ‘thee’ is singular. By using those
            particular renderings, the KJV gives exact representation of the Greek word.

            I’m not a scholar. These changes aren’t really important, are they?: “You cannot
            casually detect a land mine, but it is deadly. Many today, and I include myself
            among those, are too casual with Bible reading; we are not as careful as we should be.

            “Dr. Logsdon, who renounced his involvement with the New American Standard Bible,
            said the reason few notice the changes is because, ‘It is done so subtly that very few
            would discover it.’”

            Isn’t the New King James as reliable as the KJV?: “The deity of Christ has disappeared
            in a number of places in the New King James. The KJV verses in Acts 3:13, 26 that say
            Jesus Christ is the ‘Son’ of God, is changed in the New King James to say he is a mere
            ‘servant.’

            “There are a lot of New Age renderings in the New King James. They consistently
            substitute the term ‘the Christ’ for ‘Christ.’

            “Liberty University’s dean, Norman Geisler, says, ‘We should be particularly wary
            when someone refers to Jesus Christ as ‘the Christ.’”

            http://www.chick.com/information/bibleversions/articles/copyright.asp

          • Bobseeks

            The papists are an abomination and that evil is evident in everything the papists do.

          • Bobseeks

            The papists are an abomination and that evil is evident in everything the papists do.

          • Kevin Peek

            Sorry you have to put up with this. News like this from all over—so it was during the times of the Arian heresy. St. Athanasius, a bishop, was exiled five times from his own diocese because he was standing up to all the nonsense. Rome continues to speak the truth, and the internet and social media only make it that much easier to stay in touch with what the Pope is saying. Find the good priests who are faithfully following the Holy Father and calling out the issues and support them. Changes are coming….

          • Bobseeks

            The catholic church is responsible for the democrat party. The democrats could not survive without the votes of the catholics. Every abortion is approved by the catholic church because the catholic church supports the abortion party.

          • Bobseeks

            The catholic church is responsible for the democrat party. The democrats could not survive without the votes of the catholics. Every abortion is approved by the catholic church because the catholic church supports the abortion party.

          • JBQ21

            So, you figured it out. Malachi Martin wrote about the deceit coming out of Vatican II.

          • JBQ21

            So, you figured it out. Malachi Martin wrote about the deceit coming out of Vatican II.

          • JBQ21

            So, you figured it out. Malachi Martin wrote about the deceit coming out of Vatican II.

        • Lori

          I am a faithful Catholic and love the beauty of the faith. My Church is a very healthy mega church in Indiana. The past 5 years I’ve been saddened and very disappointed watching the politics of our Church. I was told the Church wasn’t political and they were bipartisan…well I’ve learned differently. Not only have I been greatly saddened by what they push and what they are silent on …like repeal of DADT but how they silence people who get in their way. For example, Indiana Right to Life mentioned it could not support the democrats because of their prochoice votes. The Church lobbyist then sent out a letter to all the churches saying you can’t support or have IRTL speak because they are not bipartisan. It’s not their job to be bipartisan they stand for life always. Anyway, it was essentially a favor to the Catholic democrats or a political move to stay cozy with them because they are the ones that vote for the legislation that keeps the Church well funded for social justice causes.

          Catholic Charity last year got 4 billion dollars and 65% was from gov’t money…our tax dollars. Then there are the billions that the Catholic universities, hospitals and nursing homes get in gov’t money as well as my own Catholic elementary school that says it’s free but gets state funding to be state accredited. The Church gets too many grants and entitlements from the gov’t for their ‘good work’ so the leaders cozy up to the democrats. Just look at Dolan inviting Obama to the Al Smith dinner and calling him ‘honorable’. Or making sure he doesn’t offend Andrew Cuomo by making sure his diocesan office publicly stated Cuomo is “a CAtholic in good standing”. Meanwhile Cuomo has single handely delivered same sex marriage to NY and most recently tried to have the most liberal abortion laws in the country…but Dolan still says he’s a Catholic in good standing!

          The USCCB sponsors annual fundraising for their cherished Catholic Campaign for Human Development which has funded many community organization like ACORN and others who support abortion and others things not aligned with our beliefs. They never collect nationally for pro life though but for the poor it’s their bread and butter.

          As far as Obamacare, the USCCB and their lobbyist, mine happens to be the Indiana Catholic Conference, of which I get their urgent emails requesting to support certain legislation. Recently it was the immigration bill, look at former NY leiutinent governor’s video. http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/11/betsy-mccaughey-on-how-she-took-apart-the-gang-of-8-immigration-bill-video/ Anyway, the USCCB promoted and pushed for Obamacare with ‘abortion neutral’ language and a few prominent Bishops went to Nancy Pelosi’s office to beg for it since they believe in universal healthcare. It was Catholic Health Association who was credited with greasing the wheels to get it passed. They did a number on Stupek. As we now know, Obama isn’t to be trust but the USCCB still sides with the liberal legislation that allows for ever broadening gov’t largess and control.

          The USCCB sounds patriotic and republican, loving our religious freedoms, but ultimatley our Church leaders are democratic socialist. Look at what Benedict says in this article,http://www.firstthings.com/article/2008/04/europe-and-its-discontents—50 Basically he thinks democratic socialism is the ‘closest thing to Catholic thought’. It would be great if we were all Christians and did not suffer from sin like greed and pride but that isn’t the real world. Our founding fathers of American knew this and so put in checks and balances. They knew the danger of a large gov’t and what would happen if the gov’t started handing out goodies so had checks and balances. We’ve destroyed this because we’ve all been lazy and comfortable. We’ve allowed the politician to hand out our money for all sorts of ‘good’ causes. Yes, some of them are good but is that really the gov’t job? We’ve gone over board and now it’s a little too late.

          My own city, run by a Catholic mayor, has been caught spending TIF money without representation. It’s centralized planning gone amok and now we are in debt but the city looks so pretty and the numb citizen votes for him again. Just like the citizen who votes for the democrat or RINO because he will give him goodies. It’s sounds so good but in the end is evil.

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        • Gwynn Ap Nudd

          Yes, one of the few good points in the Koran: it points out how the Jews slandered the Virgin Mary in the Talmud. Now Protestants do it constantly. But they are closer to Judaism and Islam than Catholicism.

          • grannie

            I am Protestant. I am Baptist. And I cannot agree with your statement that the Protestants slander the mother of Lord Jesus. We do not worship Mary, but we revere her as the chosen earthly mother of our Lord. And we are definitely not close to Islam. Why do you insult your fellow heirs to the kingdom? Galations 4:4-7 “…God sent forth His Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law that we might receive the adoption of sons. And because we are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying, Abba Father. Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son, then an heir of God through Christ.”

          • Jane18

            Grannie, do not call yourself any of those names of divisions! Call yourself a Christian, which is supposed to be a “way of life”. We are always to be more Christ-like, even though we know will never be as good as we should, but everyday, in everyway, we should pattern ourselves after The One that came here in the flesh, died for us, and stands between us and GOD. Protestant, Methodist, Baptists, etc., those are words that divide us….just like democrat, republican, black, white, Israelite(ALL 12 tribes, sons of Jacob(name changed to Israel by GOD)), Gentile(all those NOT from the 12 tribes),……………………….

          • Bobseeks

            Names do not divide us – beliefs do. We cannot be united until false doctrine is eliminated and that means that the lies of the papists must be eliminated.

          • Jane18

            …..so Bob, look at everyone of these “faith” names…everyone of them believes something a little different(sometime a lot different) than each other. If, and I do mean if, everyone would try to be more Christlike and taught and learned the real meanings of words and phrases in the Bible, wouldn’t that be wonderful? One thing you can say about Islamics(muslims) they all believe and stick together!!! Not us, especially here in America, each one of these so-called divisions says it is right, and that’s that!!

          • Bobseeks

            Names do not divide us – beliefs do. We cannot be united until false doctrine is eliminated and that means that the lies of the papists must be eliminated.

          • Jane18

            Grannie, do not call yourself any of those names of divisions! Call yourself a Christian, which is supposed to be a “way of life”. We are always to be more Christ-like, even though we know will never be as good as we should, but everyday, in everyway, we should pattern ourselves after The One that came here in the flesh, died for us, and stands between us and GOD. Protestant, Methodist, Baptists, etc., those are words that divide us….just like democrat, republican, black, white, Israelite(ALL 12 tribes, sons of Jacob(name changed to Israel by GOD)), Gentile(all those NOT from the 12 tribes),……………………….

          • Jane18

            Grannie, do not call yourself any of those names of divisions! Call yourself a Christian, which is supposed to be a “way of life”. We are always to be more Christ-like, even though we know will never be as good as we should, but everyday, in everyway, we should pattern ourselves after The One that came here in the flesh, died for us, and stands between us and GOD. Protestant, Methodist, Baptists, etc., those are words that divide us….just like democrat, republican, black, white, Israelite(ALL 12 tribes, sons of Jacob(name changed to Israel by GOD)), Gentile(all those NOT from the 12 tribes),……………………….

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            End Times Prophecy – Part 4 of 4
            (Audio Only)

            http://www.gracebaptistchurch.net/mp3/20070627pc4.mp3

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            End Times Prophecy – Part 4 of 4
            (Audio Only)

            http://www.gracebaptistchurch.net/mp3/20070627pc4.mp3

          • grannie

            I am Protestant. I am Baptist. And I cannot agree with your statement that the Protestants slander the mother of Lord Jesus. We do not worship Mary, but we revere her as the chosen earthly mother of our Lord. And we are definitely not close to Islam. Why do you insult your fellow heirs to the kingdom? Galations 4:4-7 “…God sent forth His Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law that we might receive the adoption of sons. And because we are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying, Abba Father. Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son, then an heir of God through Christ.”

          • grannie

            I am Protestant. I am Baptist. And I cannot agree with your statement that the Protestants slander the mother of Lord Jesus. We do not worship Mary, but we revere her as the chosen earthly mother of our Lord. And we are definitely not close to Islam. Why do you insult your fellow heirs to the kingdom? Galations 4:4-7 “…God sent forth His Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law that we might receive the adoption of sons. And because we are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying, Abba Father. Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son, then an heir of God through Christ.”

          • Bobseeks

            Come on – let’s hear your lie about how the Protestants “slander” Mary.

          • Bobseeks

            Come on – let’s hear your lie about how the Protestants “slander” Mary.

        • Gwynn Ap Nudd

          Yes, one of the few good points in the Koran: it points out how the Jews slandered the Virgin Mary in the Talmud. Now Protestants do it constantly. But they are closer to Judaism and Islam than Catholicism.

        • Gwynn Ap Nudd

          Yes, one of the few good points in the Koran: it points out how the Jews slandered the Virgin Mary in the Talmud. Now Protestants do it constantly. But they are closer to Judaism and Islam than Catholicism.

      • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.
      • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.
      • kenhowes

        Exactly right. The real support for pro-life candidates has been from Protestant churches, especially evangelicals like the Southern Baptists and confessionals like the Missouri Synod Lutherans. Catholics are still voting Democratic–or staying home.

      • kenhowes

        Exactly right. The real support for pro-life candidates has been from Protestant churches, especially evangelicals like the Southern Baptists and confessionals like the Missouri Synod Lutherans. Catholics are still voting Democratic–or staying home.

        • Kevin Peek

          But its mostly the Catholics who are praying and working outside abortion clinics and marching in the protests. I have been to the March for Life in DC for over 20 years, and only now are the protestants showing up…still haven’t seen them at my local abortion mill.

          • Bobseeks

            And it is mostly catholics who are voting for the democrats who are murdering the babies. Without the support of the catholic church, the democrats would disappear and so would abortion.

          • Kevin Peek

            If a Young man wears a Boy Scout uniform but steals children’s money and pushes old ladies in front of cars, he may claim to be a Boy Scout but he’s not….which is the point of the priest noted in the article above. People who call themselves Catholics but do the things you say, are not Catholics…any more than Baptists I know who are living with their girlfriends are Baptists.

          • Kevin Peek

            If a Young man wears a Boy Scout uniform but steals children’s money and pushes old ladies in front of cars, he may claim to be a Boy Scout but he’s not….which is the point of the priest noted in the article above. People who call themselves Catholics but do the things you say, are not Catholics…any more than Baptists I know who are living with their girlfriends are Baptists.

          • Bobseeks

            And it is mostly catholics who are voting for the democrats who are murdering the babies. Without the support of the catholic church, the democrats would disappear and so would abortion.

          • kenhowes

            Lutherans for Life have been going to the March for Life since it began. They’re not just starting to show up now. You’re right that most of the demonstrating outside abortion clinics is done by Catholics. Those Catholics who ARE pro-life are absolutely wonderful. But only perhaps 40% of Catholics are pro-life, whereas upwards of 80% of evangelical or confessional Protestants are. If the Catholic areas of this country voted the way evangelical and confessional Protestants do–think Boston vs. rural Missouri or Nebraska–abortion would no longer exist in this country.

          • kenhowes

            Lutherans for Life have been going to the March for Life since it began. They’re not just starting to show up now. You’re right that most of the demonstrating outside abortion clinics is done by Catholics. Those Catholics who ARE pro-life are absolutely wonderful. But only perhaps 40% of Catholics are pro-life, whereas upwards of 80% of evangelical or confessional Protestants are. If the Catholic areas of this country voted the way evangelical and confessional Protestants do–think Boston vs. rural Missouri or Nebraska–abortion would no longer exist in this country.

          • kenhowes

            Lutherans for Life have been going to the March for Life since it began. They’re not just starting to show up now. You’re right that most of the demonstrating outside abortion clinics is done by Catholics. Those Catholics who ARE pro-life are absolutely wonderful. But only perhaps 40% of Catholics are pro-life, whereas upwards of 80% of evangelical or confessional Protestants are. If the Catholic areas of this country voted the way evangelical and confessional Protestants do–think Boston vs. rural Missouri or Nebraska–abortion would no longer exist in this country.

        • Kevin Peek

          But its mostly the Catholics who are praying and working outside abortion clinics and marching in the protests. I have been to the March for Life in DC for over 20 years, and only now are the protestants showing up…still haven’t seen them at my local abortion mill.

      • bjreg3

        One of the many reasons why I left the Catholic Church. The liberals in the church are a disgrace and need to keep the hell out of politics.

      • bjreg3

        One of the many reasons why I left the Catholic Church. The liberals in the church are a disgrace and need to keep the hell out of politics.

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      • Jane18

        One thing is for sure…….many are not!!!!!

      • Jane18

        One thing is for sure…….many are not!!!!!

      • Jane18

        One thing is for sure…….many are not!!!!!

      • Jim

        Raymond:

        You openly bare false witness against your neighbor, and choosing willful ignorance will not save you. You may be cut from the vine, people will throw you in a pile and you will be burned up, if you keep this up.

        Your evil article was a premeditated slander and misrepresentation of the Church Jesus founded and gave binding and loosing authority to. All his sacraments he instructed us to do, and yes, they are in scripture, if you care enough to look.

        “Fill with the holy spirit, who’s sins you forgive are forgiven them, who’s sins you retain are retained.” Catholics follow Jesus on this and all the sacraments, but I bet you don’t. You may think saying you’re sorry in your prayers is enough,and we do it all the time, but it’s not following Jesus instructions fully—and you obviously fall short.

        Think about it this way for a moment: If you are wrong (and your are) you are in serious trouble. You may be invited to the wedding, but because of your stained wedding garment, you could be thrown outside with the wailing and grinding of teeth.

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          In spite of claims of contemporary Catholic propagandists, the Roman Catholic Church worships Mary. They use the term “venerate,” but it is the same thing.

          According to Rome, she was immaculately (sinlessly) conceived, participated in Christ’s suffering for mankind, ascended bodily to Heaven, was crowned Queen of the universe, and intercedes for sinners.

          During a radio message concluding the Jubilee of the Redemption, April 28, 1935, Pope Pius XI gave the Catholic Mary the title Co-redemptrix. At least five times Pope Paul II referred to her by this title in his papal statements. In his general audience in 1997, he said that Mary “collaborated in obtaining the grace of salvation for all humanity” (Vatican Information Service, April 9, 1997). This pope dedicated himself and the whole world to Mary.

          The influential book The Glories of Mary by Alphonsus Mary de Liguori, a Catholic saint, calls Mary our Life, our Help, our Advocate, our Guardian, our Mediatress, our Salvation, and the Hope of Sinners. Chapter 5 says “Mary’s intercession is necessary for our salvation.” This book was tested 20 times by the rules of Pope Urban VIII and Pope Benedict XIV and was said to contain not “one word worthy of censure.” It was pronounced to be without error by Pope Pius VII and by Pope Leo XII. Pope John Paul II acknowledged Liguori’s influence in his own idolatrous affection for Mary. Liguori’s book continues to be published today with theimprimatur [Latin meaning “let it be printed”] of various Catholic authorities.

          MARY ON THE CROSS

          In the Church of the Mother of God of Polish Martyrs in Warsaw, Poland, Mary is depicted hanging on the cross holding the child Jesus.

          Outside of the main Mary basilica in Rome (Santa Maria Maggiore) there is a large crucifix with Jesus hanging on one side and a crowned Mary hanging on the other.

          This statue depicts Rome’s dogma that Mary is the co-redemptress with Christ and that she intercedes for men from Heaven and aids in their salvation.

          Note the following quotations from the Vatican II Council:

          “As St. Irenaeus says, she being obedient, became the cause of salvation for herself and for the whole human race. Hence not a few of the early Fathers gladly assert with him in their preaching … ‘death through Eve, LIFE THROUGH MARY.’ This UNION OF THE MOTHER WITH THE SON IN THE WORK OF SALVATION is made manifest from the time of Christ’s virginal conception up to his death” (Dogmatic Constitution on the Church, chap. 8, II, 56, pp. 380-381).

          “Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but BY HER MANIFOLD INTERCESSION CONTINUES TO BRING US THE GIFTS OF ETERNAL SALVATION. By her maternal charity, she cares for the brethren of her Son, who still journey on earth surrounded by dangers and difficulties, until they are led into their blessed home. Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of ADVOCATE, HELPER, BENEFACTRESS, and MEDIATRIX” (Dogmatic Constitution on the Church, chap. 8, II, 62, pp. 382-383).

          A plaque in the Chapel of the Virgin of the Grace at Saints Vincent and Anastasius Church in Rome says, “Cardinal Benedetto Odescalchi, who became the pope with the name of Innocent XI, initiated THE WORSHIP OF THE IMAGE, placed on the altar in 1677, and wanted his heart to be buried here, not in the main chapel.”

          This is only one example of many that could be given of the term “worship” used in regard to Mary in Rome’s churches.

          MARY ADORED BY THE APOSTLES

          In the Church of the Mother of God of Polish Martyrs in Warsaw, Poland, Mary is also surrounded by the 12 apostles who are adoring her rather than Jesus Christ.

          MARY ON THE ARK OF THE COVENANT

          The Saint Stanislaus Kostka Catholic church in Chicago features an image of Mary on the very Ark of God. She is sitting above the Ark in the place that was occupied by God’s presence in the Tabernacle, and she is surrounded by adoring cherubim. This blasphemous image occupies the central altar where Mass is performed. The church’s official literature says that the image depicts the Catholic doctrines that Mary was immaculately conceived and sinless, that she participated in Christ’s suffering for mankind, and that she was bodily assumed into glory and crowned Queen of Heaven. The icon depicting Mary as the Ark of Mercy was dedicated in May 2008. Since then the church has been open 24 hours a day as an invitation for “pilgrims from all around the world to immerse themselves in the spring of grace, mercy, and power” that is supposedly flowing from the image.

          This is pure blasphemy. The Ark of the Covenant was located in the Holy of Holies in the Old Testament tabernacle and was the place where God’s presence dwelt (Exodus 25:22). Angels do not worship creatures (Acts 14:11-15; Rev. 19:10).

          Roman Catholic churches are filled with idols. Mary is reverenced with far greater fervency than Jesus. Every “evangelical” or “Baptist” or “Protestant” who has said positive things about Rome and who has participated in ecumenical relations with Rome or who has failed even to lift his voice against Rome’s gross heresies will answer to God for the refusal to “earnestly contend for the faith once delivered to the saints” (Jude 3) and for keeping silence in the face of evil.

          MARY QUEEN OF THE UNIVERSE

          The Roman Catholic Basilica of Mary, Queen of the Universe is located in Orlando, Florida, near Disney World. The basilica’s official brochure says it “emphasizes devotion to the Mother of God as one of the God-given gifts enabling us to reach that salvation for which Christ gave us His life on the cross.” Thus, according to this Catholic document Mary plays a role in salvation, which is a blasphemous lie. That Rome’s Mary is worshipped as queen of heaven is clear evidence that she is a Christianized pagan idol, for the only queen of heaven mentioned in the Bible is a goddess that the Jews were worshipping at the time of the destruction of the First Temple (Jeremiah 7:18; 44:17-25). The ancient mother-goddess worship, which began at Babel and spread throughout the world, was baptized by the Roman Catholic Church as the Madonna-Child.

          • Jim

            Raymond:

            Your response is sad and sick. If you pile on propaganda and lies, in public, about Jesus’ Church, what will you say when you see him, because all truth will be exposed.

            Worship and veneration are not the same things. Mary is called blessed three times in Luke 1. The Holy Spirit, God himself, says it. “Elizabeth filled with the Holy Spirit and said MOST Blessed are you….” “Blessed are you who believed…” Mary said, “from now on ALL generations will call me blessed…”

            Mary did redeem the world by saying YES to the angel Gabriel, because Jesus redeems the world, so Mary’s faith act allows us to be saved through Jesus…and there is nothing wrong with saying it. She deserves our love not your hate!

            We all can pray for each other and cooperate in each other’s salvation by intercession (ask St. Paul). This word “co” in this case, and the way the church uses it, should not be misinterpreted by you or others who don’t understand it.

            Mary is in a special place now, Rev. 11 shows her crowed in heaven. God chose her as the Ark of the New Covenant (Jesus) to carry Jesus, so she must be pure. More pure than the Ark of the Old Covenant that was so pure when someone touched it they died.

            All in scripture, but you are so blinded by your traditions of men, i.e., Calvin, and who ever else you put over the bible when you interpret it.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            Salvation

            THAT YE MAY KNOW THAT YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE…| John 5:13

            Like most people you want to know where you will spend eternity. The God who made you loves you. He wants you to know that you have eternal life. This knowledge from hearing and believing the Word of God. Please consider these four great truths so that you can KNOW that YOU have eternal life.

            TRUTH #1: The reality of sin.

            As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: Romans 3:10

            For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 3:23

            Let’s be honest. No one is perfect. Every one of us has done wrong at least once. Righteousness is not relative. God is the standard of right. His holy nature demands perfection. When we are not perfect we miss that mark. God calls those misses SIN. It really does not matter by how much we miss the mark. If I had to jump a 12′ crevice to be safe, jumping 11 feet 11 inches is just as fatal as jumping 6 feet. Earning God’s favor is an all or nothing proposition. It takes only one sin to fall short of His demand. It takes only one sin to become a sinner. It takes only one sin to come short.

            TRUTH #2: Sin must be punished.

            For the wages of sin is death…Romans 6:23a

            Have you ever wondered why we grow old and die? Your body can fight off every injury and illness. It just doesn’t. There is no biological reason that we should grow old. There is no biologic reason we should die. Sin is not just a wrong action. It is also the power that causes us to commit sins. Sin destroys everything it touches. Sin is the reason people die. Untreated it will can cause eternal death.

            God declares that sin pays wages. At the end of each week most of us expect a pay check for the work which we have done. In the same way, sin pays wages. Sin not only pays physical death. It also pays spiritual death. That spiritual death is described in Revelation 20:14-15.

            And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

            The person who meets God without dealing with SIN must collect the wages of sin in a place God calls The Lake of Fire, Hell, and the Second Death. It is a place of torment by fire, brimstone, darkness and conscience that lasts for ETERNITY. You might protest, “How can a loving God send anyone to such a horrible place?” The answer is simple. God doesn’t want to send anyone there. He had done everything He could to keep us out of hell. This leads us to the most wonderful truth in the Bible.

            TRUTH #3: God made a remedy for Sin.

            …but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23

            Since He knew that we could not earn it, God made eternal life a free gift. There is nothing to be joined, nothing to be paid, nothing to be earned. Eternal life, the opposite of the second death, is a gift. It is free to us but it was not free to God.

            But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

            God loves you. He did not want to make you collect the wages for your sins. He decided to collect those wages for you. How did He do that? The Lord Jesus, who was God, became a man and lived an absolutely SINLESS LIFE. He earned eternal life. Judgment had no claim on Him. He was perfect. But His perfect life was not enough. To be able to forgive us someone still had to collect the wages. Jesus voluntarily died IN MY PLACE. Jesus voluntarily died IN YOUR PLACE. He collected our wages.

            In heaven, God, the Father, wrote our sins under the account of His Son. On the cross, Jesus Christ absorbed the full punishment for our sins. When He had completed paying for our sins He cried, “It is finished!” and died. Three days later He rose from the grave to prove that He had accomplished His work. Death could not hold Him. He is alive today. Salvation is a simple bookkeeping transaction. Just as Jesus chose to take our guilt, we must choose to take His righteousness.

            TRUTH #4: You must choose to receive this gift.

            That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved… For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:9,13

            Notice what the last verse says. “…Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” You must understand that YOU MUST RECEIVE THE GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE. God has paid for it but you must accept it. He will not force you to be saved. He will not force you to have your sins forgiven. He will not force you to go to heaven. But He has made a way for all these things to be done.

            Let me ask you to use your imagination. Imagine that the Lord Jesus is standing right here with you right now. He speaks to you and says, “Let me forgive your sins and make you a child of God. Let me give you eternal life and the promise of heaven.” What would you say to him? Do you realise that He is alive today, and he is here today through the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit? He is saying to you, “Let me forgive your sins and make you a child of God. Let me give you eternal life and the promise of heaven.” Would you let him do that right now? Would you let him forgive your sin and give you eternal life in heaven with him? Would you accept that pardon that God offers so freely? Why don’t you ask Him for it right now? Just pray this simple prayer:

            Lord Jesus,

            I know that I am a sinner. I know that I deserved to be punished for my sin. Thank you for taking my punishment. Please come into my heart and save me right now. I am trusting in you to forgive my sins and give me eternal life. Thank you for saving me.

            Amen.

            God said that if you would call on Him that He would save you. If you have called on Him, you have been saved. You now know that you have eternal life.

          • Jim

            Raymond:

            You give many truths mixed in with much scriptural misinterpretation.

            Watch these two you tube videos and call me in the morning:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu7f1OS2fOU

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43P639QatRs

            I have to go to daily Mass now.

            God Bless!

          • Jim

            Raymond:

            You give many truths mixed in with much scriptural misinterpretation.

            Watch these two you tube videos and call me in the morning:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu7f1OS2fOU

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43P639QatRs

            I have to go to daily Mass now.

            God Bless!

          • Jim

            Raymond:

            Your response is sad and sick. If you pile on propaganda and lies, in public, about Jesus’ Church, what will you say when you see him, because all truth will be exposed.

            Worship and veneration are not the same things. Mary is called blessed three times in Luke 1. The Holy Spirit, God himself, says it. “Elizabeth filled with the Holy Spirit and said MOST Blessed are you….” “Blessed are you who believed…” Mary said, “from now on ALL generations will call me blessed…”

            Mary did redeem the world by saying YES to the angel Gabriel, because Jesus redeems the world, so Mary’s faith act allows us to be saved through Jesus…and there is nothing wrong with saying it. She deserves our love not your hate!

            We all can pray for each other and cooperate in each other’s salvation by intercession (ask St. Paul). This word “co” in this case, and the way the church uses it, should not be misinterpreted by you or others who don’t understand it.

            Mary is in a special place now, Rev. 11 shows her crowed in heaven. God chose her as the Ark of the New Covenant (Jesus) to carry Jesus, so she must be pure. More pure than the Ark of the Old Covenant that was so pure when someone touched it they died.

            All in scripture, but you are so blinded by your traditions of men, i.e., Calvin, and who ever else you put over the bible when you interpret it.

          • JBQ21

            My USMC friend has a point. I went to Mass last week at a church dedicated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. I did note that the cross with the crucified Christ had been removed from the sanctuary and placed to the side. The spot where the cross was was then modified with a mural to the Mother of God. I consider this to be outlandish and wrote a letter of protest. I believe that the Mother of God was the greatest creature ever created. Just where she stands in the order of things is open to argument. What is not open to argument is that the crucified Christ is remembered in every Catholic Mass that is ever said. It is a reminder of Calvary itself. What it is not is a public dinner where a bottle of wine is passed around to all those who are present. “Raymond” is right! That is just what the Catholic Mass has become since Vatican II and the question of the infiltration by the devil as written about by Malachi Martin is a valid worry and question.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            Salvation

            THAT YE MAY KNOW THAT YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE…| John 5:13

            Like most people you want to know where you will spend eternity. The God who made you loves you. He wants you to know that you have eternal life. This knowledge from hearing and believing the Word of God. Please consider these four great truths so that you can KNOW that YOU have eternal life.

            TRUTH #1: The reality of sin.

            As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: Romans 3:10

            For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 3:23

            Let’s be honest. No one is perfect. Every one of us has done wrong at least once. Righteousness is not relative. God is the standard of right. His holy nature demands perfection. When we are not perfect we miss that mark. God calls those misses SIN. It really does not matter by how much we miss the mark. If I had to jump a 12′ crevice to be safe, jumping 11 feet 11 inches is just as fatal as jumping 6 feet. Earning God’s favor is an all or nothing proposition. It takes only one sin to fall short of His demand. It takes only one sin to become a sinner. It takes only one sin to come short.

            TRUTH #2: Sin must be punished.

            For the wages of sin is death…Romans 6:23a

            Have you ever wondered why we grow old and die? Your body can fight off every injury and illness. It just doesn’t. There is no biological reason that we should grow old. There is no biologic reason we should die. Sin is not just a wrong action. It is also the power that causes us to commit sins. Sin destroys everything it touches. Sin is the reason people die. Untreated it will can cause eternal death.

            God declares that sin pays wages. At the end of each week most of us expect a pay check for the work which we have done. In the same way, sin pays wages. Sin not only pays physical death. It also pays spiritual death. That spiritual death is described in Revelation 20:14-15.

            And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

            The person who meets God without dealing with SIN must collect the wages of sin in a place God calls The Lake of Fire, Hell, and the Second Death. It is a place of torment by fire, brimstone, darkness and conscience that lasts for ETERNITY. You might protest, “How can a loving God send anyone to such a horrible place?” The answer is simple. God doesn’t want to send anyone there. He had done everything He could to keep us out of hell. This leads us to the most wonderful truth in the Bible.

            TRUTH #3: God made a remedy for Sin.

            …but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23

            Since He knew that we could not earn it, God made eternal life a free gift. There is nothing to be joined, nothing to be paid, nothing to be earned. Eternal life, the opposite of the second death, is a gift. It is free to us but it was not free to God.

            But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

            God loves you. He did not want to make you collect the wages for your sins. He decided to collect those wages for you. How did He do that? The Lord Jesus, who was God, became a man and lived an absolutely SINLESS LIFE. He earned eternal life. Judgment had no claim on Him. He was perfect. But His perfect life was not enough. To be able to forgive us someone still had to collect the wages. Jesus voluntarily died IN MY PLACE. Jesus voluntarily died IN YOUR PLACE. He collected our wages.

            In heaven, God, the Father, wrote our sins under the account of His Son. On the cross, Jesus Christ absorbed the full punishment for our sins. When He had completed paying for our sins He cried, “It is finished!” and died. Three days later He rose from the grave to prove that He had accomplished His work. Death could not hold Him. He is alive today. Salvation is a simple bookkeeping transaction. Just as Jesus chose to take our guilt, we must choose to take His righteousness.

            TRUTH #4: You must choose to receive this gift.

            That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved… For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:9,13

            Notice what the last verse says. “…Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” You must understand that YOU MUST RECEIVE THE GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE. God has paid for it but you must accept it. He will not force you to be saved. He will not force you to have your sins forgiven. He will not force you to go to heaven. But He has made a way for all these things to be done.

            Let me ask you to use your imagination. Imagine that the Lord Jesus is standing right here with you right now. He speaks to you and says, “Let me forgive your sins and make you a child of God. Let me give you eternal life and the promise of heaven.” What would you say to him? Do you realise that He is alive today, and he is here today through the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit? He is saying to you, “Let me forgive your sins and make you a child of God. Let me give you eternal life and the promise of heaven.” Would you let him do that right now? Would you let him forgive your sin and give you eternal life in heaven with him? Would you accept that pardon that God offers so freely? Why don’t you ask Him for it right now? Just pray this simple prayer:

            Lord Jesus,

            I know that I am a sinner. I know that I deserved to be punished for my sin. Thank you for taking my punishment. Please come into my heart and save me right now. I am trusting in you to forgive my sins and give me eternal life. Thank you for saving me…

            Amen.

            God said that if you would call on Him that He would save you. If you have called on Him, you have been saved. You now know that you have eternal life.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            Salvation

            THAT YE MAY KNOW THAT YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE…| John 5:13

            Like most people you want to know where you will spend eternity. The God who made you loves you. He wants you to know that you have eternal life. This knowledge from hearing and believing the Word of God. Please consider these four great truths so that you can KNOW that YOU have eternal life.

            TRUTH #1: The reality of sin.

            As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: Romans 3:10

            For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 3:23

            Let’s be honest. No one is perfect. Every one of us has done wrong at least once. Righteousness is not relative. God is the standard of right. His holy nature demands perfection. When we are not perfect we miss that mark. God calls those misses SIN. It really does not matter by how much we miss the mark. If I had to jump a 12′ crevice to be safe, jumping 11 feet 11 inches is just as fatal as jumping 6 feet. Earning God’s favor is an all or nothing proposition. It takes only one sin to fall short of His demand. It takes only one sin to become a sinner. It takes only one sin to come short.

            TRUTH #2: Sin must be punished.

            For the wages of sin is death…Romans 6:23a

            Have you ever wondered why we grow old and die? Your body can fight off every injury and illness. It just doesn’t. There is no biological reason that we should grow old. There is no biologic reason we should die. Sin is not just a wrong action. It is also the power that causes us to commit sins. Sin destroys everything it touches. Sin is the reason people die. Untreated it will can cause eternal death.

            God declares that sin pays wages. At the end of each week most of us expect a pay check for the work which we have done. In the same way, sin pays wages. Sin not only pays physical death. It also pays spiritual death. That spiritual death is described in Revelation 20:14-15.

            And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

            The person who meets God without dealing with SIN must collect the wages of sin in a place God calls The Lake of Fire, Hell, and the Second Death. It is a place of torment by fire, brimstone, darkness and conscience that lasts for ETERNITY. You might protest, “How can a loving God send anyone to such a horrible place?” The answer is simple. God doesn’t want to send anyone there. He had done everything He could to keep us out of hell. This leads us to the most wonderful truth in the Bible.

            TRUTH #3: God made a remedy for Sin.

            …but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23

            Since He knew that we could not earn it, God made eternal life a free gift. There is nothing to be joined, nothing to be paid, nothing to be earned. Eternal life, the opposite of the second death, is a gift. It is free to us but it was not free to God.

            But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

            God loves you. He did not want to make you collect the wages for your sins. He decided to collect those wages for you. How did He do that? The Lord Jesus, who was God, became a man and lived an absolutely SINLESS LIFE. He earned eternal life. Judgment had no claim on Him. He was perfect. But His perfect life was not enough. To be able to forgive us someone still had to collect the wages. Jesus voluntarily died IN MY PLACE. Jesus voluntarily died IN YOUR PLACE. He collected our wages.

            In heaven, God, the Father, wrote our sins under the account of His Son. On the cross, Jesus Christ absorbed the full punishment for our sins. When He had completed paying for our sins He cried, “It is finished!” and died. Three days later He rose from the grave to prove that He had accomplished His work. Death could not hold Him. He is alive today. Salvation is a simple bookkeeping transaction. Just as Jesus chose to take our guilt, we must choose to take His righteousness.

            TRUTH #4: You must choose to receive this gift.

            That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved… For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:9,13

            Notice what the last verse says. “…Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” You must understand that YOU MUST RECEIVE THE GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE. God has paid for it but you must accept it. He will not force you to be saved. He will not force you to have your sins forgiven. He will not force you to go to heaven. But He has made a way for all these things to be done.

            Let me ask you to use your imagination. Imagine that the Lord Jesus is standing right here with you right now. He speaks to you and says, “Let me forgive your sins and make you a child of God. Let me give you eternal life and the promise of heaven.” What would you say to him? Do you realise that He is alive today, and he is here today through the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit? He is saying to you, “Let me forgive your sins and make you a child of God. Let me give you eternal life and the promise of heaven.” Would you let him do that right now? Would you let him forgive your sin and give you eternal life in heaven with him? Would you accept that pardon that God offers so freely? Why don’t you ask Him for it right now? Just pray this simple prayer:

            Lord Jesus,

            I know that I am a sinner. I know that I deserved to be punished for my sin. Thank you for taking my punishment. Please come into my heart and save me right now. I am trusting in you to forgive my sins and give me eternal life. Thank you for saving me…

            Amen.

            God said that if you would call on Him that He would save you. If you have called on Him, you have been saved. You now know that you have eternal life.

          • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

            Salvation

            THAT YE MAY KNOW THAT YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE…| John 5:13

            Like most people you want to know where you will spend eternity. The God who made you loves you. He wants you to know that you have eternal life. This knowledge from hearing and believing the Word of God. Please consider these four great truths so that you can KNOW that YOU have eternal life.

            TRUTH #1: The reality of sin.

            As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: Romans 3:10

            For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 3:23

            Let’s be honest. No one is perfect. Every one of us has done wrong at least once. Righteousness is not relative. God is the standard of right. His holy nature demands perfection. When we are not perfect we miss that mark. God calls those misses SIN. It really does not matter by how much we miss the mark. If I had to jump a 12′ crevice to be safe, jumping 11 feet 11 inches is just as fatal as jumping 6 feet. Earning God’s favor is an all or nothing proposition. It takes only one sin to fall short of His demand. It takes only one sin to become a sinner. It takes only one sin to come short.

            TRUTH #2: Sin must be punished.

            For the wages of sin is death…Romans 6:23a

            Have you ever wondered why we grow old and die? Your body can fight off every injury and illness. It just doesn’t. There is no biological reason that we should grow old. There is no biologic reason we should die. Sin is not just a wrong action. It is also the power that causes us to commit sins. Sin destroys everything it touches. Sin is the reason people die. Untreated it will can cause eternal death.

            God declares that sin pays wages. At the end of each week most of us expect a pay check for the work which we have done. In the same way, sin pays wages. Sin not only pays physical death. It also pays spiritual death. That spiritual death is described in Revelation 20:14-15.

            And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

            The person who meets God without dealing with SIN must collect the wages of sin in a place God calls The Lake of Fire, Hell, and the Second Death. It is a place of torment by fire, brimstone, darkness and conscience that lasts for ETERNITY. You might protest, “How can a loving God send anyone to such a horrible place?” The answer is simple. God doesn’t want to send anyone there. He had done everything He could to keep us out of hell. This leads us to the most wonderful truth in the Bible.

            TRUTH #3: God made a remedy for Sin.

            …but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23

            Since He knew that we could not earn it, God made eternal life a free gift. There is nothing to be joined, nothing to be paid, nothing to be earned. Eternal life, the opposite of the second death, is a gift. It is free to us but it was not free to God.

            But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

            God loves you. He did not want to make you collect the wages for your sins. He decided to collect those wages for you. How did He do that? The Lord Jesus, who was God, became a man and lived an absolutely SINLESS LIFE. He earned eternal life. Judgment had no claim on Him. He was perfect. But His perfect life was not enough. To be able to forgive us someone still had to collect the wages. Jesus voluntarily died IN MY PLACE. Jesus voluntarily died IN YOUR PLACE. He collected our wages.

            In heaven, God, the Father, wrote our sins under the account of His Son. On the cross, Jesus Christ absorbed the full punishment for our sins. When He had completed paying for our sins He cried, “It is finished!” and died. Three days later He rose from the grave to prove that He had accomplished His work. Death could not hold Him. He is alive today. Salvation is a simple bookkeeping transaction. Just as Jesus chose to take our guilt, we must choose to take His righteousness.

            TRUTH #4: You must choose to receive this gift.

            That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved… For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:9,13

            Notice what the last verse says. “…Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” You must understand that YOU MUST RECEIVE THE GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE. God has paid for it but you must accept it. He will not force you to be saved. He will not force you to have your sins forgiven. He will not force you to go to heaven. But He has made a way for all these things to be done.

            Let me ask you to use your imagination. Imagine that the Lord Jesus is standing right here with you right now. He speaks to you and says, “Let me forgive your sins and make you a child of God. Let me give you eternal life and the promise of heaven.” What would you say to him? Do you realise that He is alive today, and he is here today through the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit? He is saying to you, “Let me forgive your sins and make you a child of God. Let me give you eternal life and the promise of heaven.” Would you let him do that right now? Would you let him forgive your sin and give you eternal life in heaven with him? Would you accept that pardon that God offers so freely? Why don’t you ask Him for it right now? Just pray this simple prayer:

            Lord Jesus,

            I know that I am a sinner. I know that I deserved to be punished for my sin. Thank you for taking my punishment. Please come into my heart and save me right now. I am trusting in you to forgive my sins and give me eternal life. Thank you for saving me…

            Amen.

            God said that if you would call on Him that He would save you. If you have called on Him, you have been saved. You now know that you have eternal life.

          • JBQ21

            My USMC friend has a point. I went to Mass last week at a church dedicated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. I did note that the cross with the crucified Christ had been removed from the sanctuary and placed to the side. The spot where the cross was was then modified with a mural to the Mother of God. I consider this to be outlandish and wrote a letter of protest. I believe that the Mother of God was the greatest creature ever created. Just where she stands in the order of things is open to argument. What is not open to argument is that the crucified Christ is remembered in every Catholic Mass that is ever said. It is a reminder of Calvary itself. What it is not is a public dinner where a bottle of wine is passed around to all those who are present. “Raymond” is right! That is just what the Catholic Mass has become since Vatican II and the question of the infiltration by the devil as written about by Malachi Martin is a valid worry and question.

          • JBQ21

            My USMC friend has a point. I went to Mass last week at a church dedicated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. I did note that the cross with the crucified Christ had been removed from the sanctuary and placed to the side. The spot where the cross was was then modified with a mural to the Mother of God. I consider this to be outlandish and wrote a letter of protest. I believe that the Mother of God was the greatest creature ever created. Just where she stands in the order of things is open to argument. What is not open to argument is that the crucified Christ is remembered in every Catholic Mass that is ever said. It is a reminder of Calvary itself. What it is not is a public dinner where a bottle of wine is passed around to all those who are present. “Raymond” is right! That is just what the Catholic Mass has become since Vatican II and the question of the infiltration by the devil as written about by Malachi Martin is a valid worry and question.

        • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

          In spite of claims of contemporary Catholic propagandists, the Roman Catholic Church worships Mary. They use the term “venerate,” but it is the same thing.

          According to Rome, she was immaculately (sinlessly) conceived, participated in Christ’s suffering for mankind, ascended bodily to Heaven, was crowned Queen of the universe, and intercedes for sinners.

          During a radio message concluding the Jubilee of the Redemption, April 28, 1935, Pope Pius XI gave the Catholic Mary the title Co-redemptrix. At least five times Pope Paul II referred to her by this title in his papal statements. In his general audience in 1997, he said that Mary “collaborated in obtaining the grace of salvation for all humanity” (Vatican Information Service, April 9, 1997). This pope dedicated himself and the whole world to Mary.

          The influential book The Glories of Mary by Alphonsus Mary de Liguori, a Catholic saint, calls Mary our Life, our Help, our Advocate, our Guardian, our Mediatress, our Salvation, and the Hope of Sinners. Chapter 5 says “Mary’s intercession is necessary for our salvation.” This book was tested 20 times by the rules of Pope Urban VIII and Pope Benedict XIV and was said to contain not “one word worthy of censure.” It was pronounced to be without error by Pope Pius VII and by Pope Leo XII. Pope John Paul II acknowledged Liguori’s influence in his own idolatrous affection for Mary. Liguori’s book continues to be published today with theimprimatur [Latin meaning “let it be printed”] of various Catholic authorities.

          MARY ON THE CROSS

          In the Church of the Mother of God of Polish Martyrs in Warsaw, Poland, Mary is depicted hanging on the cross holding the child Jesus.

          Outside of the main Mary basilica in Rome (Santa Maria Maggiore) there is a large crucifix with Jesus hanging on one side and a crowned Mary hanging on the other.

          This statue depicts Rome’s dogma that Mary is the co-redemptress with Christ and that she intercedes for men from Heaven and aids in their salvation.

          Note the following quotations from the Vatican II Council:

          “As St. Irenaeus says, she being obedient, became the cause of salvation for herself and for the whole human race. Hence not a few of the early Fathers gladly assert with him in their preaching … ‘death through Eve, LIFE THROUGH MARY.’ This UNION OF THE MOTHER WITH THE SON IN THE WORK OF SALVATION is made manifest from the time of Christ’s virginal conception up to his death” (Dogmatic Constitution on the Church, chap. 8, II, 56, pp. 380-381).

          “Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but BY HER MANIFOLD INTERCESSION CONTINUES TO BRING US THE GIFTS OF ETERNAL SALVATION. By her maternal charity, she cares for the brethren of her Son, who still journey on earth surrounded by dangers and difficulties, until they are led into their blessed home. Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of ADVOCATE, HELPER, BENEFACTRESS, and MEDIATRIX” (Dogmatic Constitution on the Church, chap. 8, II, 62, pp. 382-383).

          A plaque in the Chapel of the Virgin of the Grace at Saints Vincent and Anastasius Church in Rome says, “Cardinal Benedetto Odescalchi, who became the pope with the name of Innocent XI, initiated THE WORSHIP OF THE IMAGE, placed on the altar in 1677, and wanted his heart to be buried here, not in the main chapel.”

          This is only one example of many that could be given of the term “worship” used in regard to Mary in Rome’s churches.

          MARY ADORED BY THE APOSTLES

          In the Church of the Mother of God of Polish Martyrs in Warsaw, Poland, Mary is also surrounded by the 12 apostles who are adoring her rather than Jesus Christ.

          MARY ON THE ARK OF THE COVENANT

          The Saint Stanislaus Kostka Catholic church in Chicago features an image of Mary on the very Ark of God. She is sitting above the Ark in the place that was occupied by God’s presence in the Tabernacle, and she is surrounded by adoring cherubim. This blasphemous image occupies the central altar where Mass is performed. The church’s official literature says that the image depicts the Catholic doctrines that Mary was immaculately conceived and sinless, that she participated in Christ’s suffering for mankind, and that she was bodily assumed into glory and crowned Queen of Heaven. The icon depicting Mary as the Ark of Mercy was dedicated in May 2008. Since then the church has been open 24 hours a day as an invitation for “pilgrims from all around the world to immerse themselves in the spring of grace, mercy, and power” that is supposedly flowing from the image.

          This is pure blasphemy. The Ark of the Covenant was located in the Holy of Holies in the Old Testament tabernacle and was the place where God’s presence dwelt (Exodus 25:22). Angels do not worship creatures (Acts 14:11-15; Rev. 19:10).

          Roman Catholic churches are filled with idols. Mary is reverenced with far greater fervency than Jesus. Every “evangelical” or “Baptist” or “Protestant” who has said positive things about Rome and who has participated in ecumenical relations with Rome or who has failed even to lift his voice against Rome’s gross heresies will answer to God for the refusal to “earnestly contend for the faith once delivered to the saints” (Jude 3) and for keeping silence in the face of evil.

          MARY QUEEN OF THE UNIVERSE

          The Roman Catholic Basilica of Mary, Queen of the Universe is located in Orlando, Florida, near Disney World. The basilica’s official brochure says it “emphasizes devotion to the Mother of God as one of the God-given gifts enabling us to reach that salvation for which Christ gave us His life on the cross.” Thus, according to this Catholic document Mary plays a role in salvation, which is a blasphemous lie. That Rome’s Mary is worshipped as queen of heaven is clear evidence that she is a Christianized pagan idol, for the only queen of heaven mentioned in the Bible is a goddess that the Jews were worshipping at the time of the destruction of the First Temple (Jeremiah 7:18; 44:17-25). The ancient mother-goddess worship, which began at Babel and spread throughout the world, was baptized by the Roman Catholic Church as the Madonna-Child.

        • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

          In spite of claims of contemporary Catholic propagandists, the Roman Catholic Church worships Mary. They use the term “venerate,” but it is the same thing.

          According to Rome, she was immaculately (sinlessly) conceived, participated in Christ’s suffering for mankind, ascended bodily to Heaven, was crowned Queen of the universe, and intercedes for sinners.

          During a radio message concluding the Jubilee of the Redemption, April 28, 1935, Pope Pius XI gave the Catholic Mary the title Co-redemptrix. At least five times Pope Paul II referred to her by this title in his papal statements. In his general audience in 1997, he said that Mary “collaborated in obtaining the grace of salvation for all humanity” (Vatican Information Service, April 9, 1997). This pope dedicated himself and the whole world to Mary.

          The influential book The Glories of Mary by Alphonsus Mary de Liguori, a Catholic saint, calls Mary our Life, our Help, our Advocate, our Guardian, our Mediatress, our Salvation, and the Hope of Sinners. Chapter 5 says “Mary’s intercession is necessary for our salvation.” This book was tested 20 times by the rules of Pope Urban VIII and Pope Benedict XIV and was said to contain not “one word worthy of censure.” It was pronounced to be without error by Pope Pius VII and by Pope Leo XII. Pope John Paul II acknowledged Liguori’s influence in his own idolatrous affection for Mary. Liguori’s book continues to be published today with theimprimatur [Latin meaning “let it be printed”] of various Catholic authorities.

          MARY ON THE CROSS

          In the Church of the Mother of God of Polish Martyrs in Warsaw, Poland, Mary is depicted hanging on the cross holding the child Jesus.

          Outside of the main Mary basilica in Rome (Santa Maria Maggiore) there is a large crucifix with Jesus hanging on one side and a crowned Mary hanging on the other.

          This statue depicts Rome’s dogma that Mary is the co-redemptress with Christ and that she intercedes for men from Heaven and aids in their salvation.

          Note the following quotations from the Vatican II Council:

          “As St. Irenaeus says, she being obedient, became the cause of salvation for herself and for the whole human race. Hence not a few of the early Fathers gladly assert with him in their preaching … ‘death through Eve, LIFE THROUGH MARY.’ This UNION OF THE MOTHER WITH THE SON IN THE WORK OF SALVATION is made manifest from the time of Christ’s virginal conception up to his death” (Dogmatic Constitution on the Church, chap. 8, II, 56, pp. 380-381).

          “Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but BY HER MANIFOLD INTERCESSION CONTINUES TO BRING US THE GIFTS OF ETERNAL SALVATION. By her maternal charity, she cares for the brethren of her Son, who still journey on earth surrounded by dangers and difficulties, until they are led into their blessed home. Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of ADVOCATE, HELPER, BENEFACTRESS, and MEDIATRIX” (Dogmatic Constitution on the Church, chap. 8, II, 62, pp. 382-383).

          A plaque in the Chapel of the Virgin of the Grace at Saints Vincent and Anastasius Church in Rome says, “Cardinal Benedetto Odescalchi, who became the pope with the name of Innocent XI, initiated THE WORSHIP OF THE IMAGE, placed on the altar in 1677, and wanted his heart to be buried here, not in the main chapel.”

          This is only one example of many that could be given of the term “worship” used in regard to Mary in Rome’s churches.

          MARY ADORED BY THE APOSTLES

          In the Church of the Mother of God of Polish Martyrs in Warsaw, Poland, Mary is also surrounded by the 12 apostles who are adoring her rather than Jesus Christ.

          MARY ON THE ARK OF THE COVENANT

          The Saint Stanislaus Kostka Catholic church in Chicago features an image of Mary on the very Ark of God. She is sitting above the Ark in the place that was occupied by God’s presence in the Tabernacle, and she is surrounded by adoring cherubim. This blasphemous image occupies the central altar where Mass is performed. The church’s official literature says that the image depicts the Catholic doctrines that Mary was immaculately conceived and sinless, that she participated in Christ’s suffering for mankind, and that she was bodily assumed into glory and crowned Queen of Heaven. The icon depicting Mary as the Ark of Mercy was dedicated in May 2008. Since then the church has been open 24 hours a day as an invitation for “pilgrims from all around the world to immerse themselves in the spring of grace, mercy, and power” that is supposedly flowing from the image.

          This is pure blasphemy. The Ark of the Covenant was located in the Holy of Holies in the Old Testament tabernacle and was the place where God’s presence dwelt (Exodus 25:22). Angels do not worship creatures (Acts 14:11-15; Rev. 19:10).

          Roman Catholic churches are filled with idols. Mary is reverenced with far greater fervency than Jesus. Every “evangelical” or “Baptist” or “Protestant” who has said positive things about Rome and who has participated in ecumenical relations with Rome or who has failed even to lift his voice against Rome’s gross heresies will answer to God for the refusal to “earnestly contend for the faith once delivered to the saints” (Jude 3) and for keeping silence in the face of evil.

          MARY QUEEN OF THE UNIVERSE

          The Roman Catholic Basilica of Mary, Queen of the Universe is located in Orlando, Florida, near Disney World. The basilica’s official brochure says it “emphasizes devotion to the Mother of God as one of the God-given gifts enabling us to reach that salvation for which Christ gave us His life on the cross.” Thus, according to this Catholic document Mary plays a role in salvation, which is a blasphemous lie. That Rome’s Mary is worshipped as queen of heaven is clear evidence that she is a Christianized pagan idol, for the only queen of heaven mentioned in the Bible is a goddess that the Jews were worshipping at the time of the destruction of the First Temple (Jeremiah 7:18; 44:17-25). The ancient mother-goddess worship, which began at Babel and spread throughout the world, was baptized by the Roman Catholic Church as the Madonna-Child.

    • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.
    • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.
    • 7papa7

      All churches need to start imposing discipline when sin is committed, it is a responsibility that they have shirked. Their is a system that Scripture has put forth to deal with sin in the church. It is time to follow God’s instruction and NOT man’s instructions. Pelosi and the rest of those who belief it is perfectly OK to murder babies should be excommunicated, it is the responsibility of the churches. IF they ever want to regain any moral authority then start doing what is right and that goes for ALL denominations.

      • JBQ21

        T Dolan and the bois refuse to preach sin. It is all about the “ills of society” and the societal pressures which cause acts committed against the people of God. There is no individual responsibility. The Bible is no longer relevant. It is all about a Freudian interpretation of the Mission of the Christ and his efforts to form a world government where all evil will be abolished. Rome, the Pharohs, and the Druids all had their priests to conduit for the Almighty. St. Patrick even overcame the Druids after being a slave in their land. Catholic priests have become little more than social workers and gay ones at that. The holy priest who would make “Raymond’s blood boil” is now being thrown under the bus and being replaced with politically correct clowns who have no understanding of the Bible and don’t even care. Most of the younger ones are gay and being allowed to persecute the holy ones for being politically incorrect just because key bishops in the U.S. are gay as well.

        • 7papa7

          That is why the church no longer has any moral authority. We need to get back to the Bible. we need to start believing it and we need to start following it.

        • 7papa7

          That is why the church no longer has any moral authority. We need to get back to the Bible. we need to start believing it and we need to start following it.

          • JBQ21

            Amen! Maybe Obama will be like Saul of Tarsus and knocked off his horse that Mohammed rode by a bolt of lightning.

          • 7papa7

            sounds good to me.

          • 7papa7

            sounds good to me.

          • JBQ21

            Amen! Maybe Obama will be like Saul of Tarsus and knocked off his horse that Mohammed rode by a bolt of lightning.

          • JBQ21

            Amen! Maybe Obama will be like Saul of Tarsus and knocked off his horse that Mohammed rode by a bolt of lightning.

          • fliteking

            Just got the Geneva Bible in the mail this week, hope to start it soon. Never have settled on a specific Bible, I see it as a tool to accessing God.

          • 7papa7

            I have never personally read the Geneva Bible but have heard some good things about it. For the NT I have found the NASB to be the best translation and for the OT the KJV. I use the Greek text for the NT and the Septuagint for the OT. One thing I do know and that is any translation, not paraphrase, you will be getting accurate information. You will have minor differences that will usually be footnoted but you will have no difference in theology.

          • 7papa7

            I have never personally read the Geneva Bible but have heard some good things about it. For the NT I have found the NASB to be the best translation and for the OT the KJV. I use the Greek text for the NT and the Septuagint for the OT. One thing I do know and that is any translation, not paraphrase, you will be getting accurate information. You will have minor differences that will usually be footnoted but you will have no difference in theology.

          • fliteking

            Just got the Geneva Bible in the mail this week, hope to start it soon. Never have settled on a specific Bible, I see it as a tool to accessing God.

          • fliteking

            Just got the Geneva Bible in the mail this week, hope to start it soon. Never have settled on a specific Bible, I see it as a tool to accessing God.

        • 7papa7

          That is why the church no longer has any moral authority. We need to get back to the Bible. we need to start believing it and we need to start following it.

      • JBQ21

        T Dolan and the bois refuse to preach sin. It is all about the “ills of society” and the societal pressures which cause acts committed against the people of God. There is no individual responsibility. The Bible is no longer relevant. It is all about a Freudian interpretation of the Mission of the Christ and his efforts to form a world government where all evil will be abolished. Rome, the Pharohs, and the Druids all had their priests to conduit for the Almighty. St. Patrick even overcame the Druids after being a slave in their land. Catholic priests have become little more than social workers and gay ones at that. The holy priest who would make “Raymond’s blood boil” is now being thrown under the bus and being replaced with politically correct clowns who have no understanding of the Bible and don’t even care. Most of the younger ones are gay and being allowed to persecute the holy ones for being politically incorrect just because key bishops in the U.S. are gay as well.

    • 7papa7

      All churches need to start imposing discipline when sin is committed, it is a responsibility that they have shirked. Their is a system that Scripture has put forth to deal with sin in the church. It is time to follow God’s instruction and NOT man’s instructions. Pelosi and the rest of those who belief it is perfectly OK to murder babies should be excommunicated, it is the responsibility of the churches. IF they ever want to regain any moral authority then start doing what is right and that goes for ALL denominations.

    • 7papa7

      All churches need to start imposing discipline when sin is committed, it is a responsibility that they have shirked. Their is a system that Scripture has put forth to deal with sin in the church. It is time to follow God’s instruction and NOT man’s instructions. Pelosi and the rest of those who belief it is perfectly OK to murder babies should be excommunicated, it is the responsibility of the churches. IF they ever want to regain any moral authority then start doing what is right and that goes for ALL denominations.

    • sreynolds

      Don’t forget the garbage biden has spewed, I wish ALL of those on the left would suddenly “see” what’s going on, I think a lot of them would change their tune. LOL Not the brightest bunch.

    • sreynolds

      Don’t forget the garbage biden has spewed, I wish ALL of those on the left would suddenly “see” what’s going on, I think a lot of them would change their tune. LOL Not the brightest bunch.

  • Nick Santos

    Pelosi is a hypocrite!

  • Nick Santos

    Pelosi is a hypocrite!

  • Nick Santos

    Pelosi is a hypocrite!

  • stratman51

    PIC: Duncy Pelosi without her makeup on.

    • sandman

      on the 28th day, and no botox!

    • sandman

      on the 28th day, and no botox!

  • stratman51

    PIC: Duncy Pelosi without her makeup on.

  • stratman51

    PIC: Duncy Pelosi without her makeup on.

  • OldmanRick

    I will let God and Nancy work it out. However, from my viewpoint Pelosi is the wicked witch of the West – a lying, cheating, thieving, bottom feeding, Marxist scumbag.

  • OldmanRick

    I will let God and Nancy work it out. However, from my viewpoint Pelosi is the wicked witch of the West – a lying, cheating, thieving, bottom feeding, Marxist scumbag.

    • sandraleesmith46

      What’s to ” work out”? God Jesus clearly told His followers to follow man’s law except where it comes into conflict with God’s law (as in thou shalt not murder; that being the correct translation of the Hebrew, not kill). Abortion is in direct conflict with God’s law, ergo not to be accepted by those who follow Him.

      • Jane18

        Thank you Sandra! Not many people know that the word in the 10 Commandments is “murder” and not kill…….there is a difference!!

        • Sandra Lee Smith

          A good Heberw-English dictionary, such as in Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance is always handy. There’s a nice Greek-English in it too. Handy for those pesky mistranslations.

        • Sandra Lee Smith

          A good Heberw-English dictionary, such as in Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance is always handy. There’s a nice Greek-English in it too. Handy for those pesky mistranslations.

      • Jane18

        Thank you Sandra! Not many people know that the word in the 10 Commandments is “murder” and not kill…….there is a difference!!

      • Jane18

        Thank you Sandra! Not many people know that the word in the 10 Commandments is “murder” and not kill…….there is a difference!!

    • VictorLandry

      You mean Wicked Witch of the West Wing?

    • VictorLandry

      You mean Wicked Witch of the West Wing?

      • sandman

        no that’s mrs. obalmer, VictorLandry should have specified west coast.

      • sandman

        no that’s mrs. obalmer, VictorLandry should have specified west coast.

        • Eddi G.

          “Left Coast”

          • sandman

            figuratively and factually

          • sandman

            figuratively and factually

        • Eddi G.

          “Left Coast”

      • sandman

        no that’s mrs. obalmer, VictorLandry should have specified west coast.

      • James Maxwell

        Naw that is Mouchellas position.

      • James Maxwell

        Naw that is Mouchellas position.

      • James Maxwell

        Naw that is Mouchellas position.

    • VictorLandry

      You mean Wicked Witch of the West Wing?

    • mac12sam12

      Don’t hold back! Tell us how you feel.

    • DAY8293A

      YOU INSULT THE WICKED WITCH OF THE WEST,,, THE WITCH IS MUCH BETTER LOOKING THAN PELOSI…

    • DAY8293A

      YOU INSULT THE WICKED WITCH OF THE WEST,,, THE WITCH IS MUCH BETTER LOOKING THAN PELOSI…

    • DAY8293A

      YOU INSULT THE WICKED WITCH OF THE WEST,,, THE WITCH IS MUCH BETTER LOOKING THAN PELOSI…

  • http://clashdaily.com/author/roncollins/ R.Collins

    VI: The puke that held 3 women captive in Cleveland is being charged with murdering the unborn of those women. Yes, the hypocrisy of the left is, well, utter hypocrisy.

    • DAY8293A

      EXACTLY,,, ABORT A BABY, AND IT IS OK,,, HAVE A DRUNK DRIVER HIT A PREGNANT WOMAN, AND SHE LIVES BUT LOSES THE CHILD, AND NOW IT IS MURDER??? YOU CAN’T CALL IT MURDER TODAY, AND NOT MURDER TOMORROW,,,, DEMOCRAT CHRISTIANS ARE ABOUT A COMPATIBLE AS NAZI JEWS,,,

      • Gwynn Ap Nudd

        Abortion, or Child Sacrifice, is the ultimate Sacrament of the Left. She herself called it sacred – as have many others. MY BODY – these evil women chant.

    • DAY8293A

      EXACTLY,,, ABORT A BABY, AND IT IS OK,,, HAVE A DRUNK DRIVER HIT A PREGNANT WOMAN, AND SHE LIVES BUT LOSES THE CHILD, AND NOW IT IS MURDER??? YOU CAN’T CALL IT MURDER TODAY, AND NOT MURDER TOMORROW,,,, DEMOCRAT CHRISTIANS ARE ABOUT A COMPATIBLE AS NAZI JEWS,,,

    • DAY8293A

      EXACTLY,,, ABORT A BABY, AND IT IS OK,,, HAVE A DRUNK DRIVER HIT A PREGNANT WOMAN, AND SHE LIVES BUT LOSES THE CHILD, AND NOW IT IS MURDER??? YOU CAN’T CALL IT MURDER TODAY, AND NOT MURDER TOMORROW,,,, DEMOCRAT CHRISTIANS ARE ABOUT A COMPATIBLE AS NAZI JEWS,,,

  • jimmy john

    Wow Ive never seen the old girl looking better, the old dirt BAD

  • parlayer

    thanks for saving me the words, Perfect.

  • parlayer

    thanks for saving me the words, Perfect.

  • thismustend

    Pelosi is MENTALLY ILL, drunk on her own power, she IS her own god. This woman/thing advocates MURDERING babies, has made a filthy fortune off of insider trading & flies around in her private jet preaching about global warming & green energy. Hypocrite does not come close, she is truly nuts.

    • Jane18

      “Nuts” is an excuse………….there is nothing except “evil” that describes Pelosi and her ilk!

    • Jane18

      “Nuts” is an excuse………….there is nothing except “evil” that describes Pelosi and her ilk!

  • thismustend

    Pelosi is MENTALLY ILL, drunk on her own power, she IS her own god. This woman/thing advocates MURDERING babies, has made a filthy fortune off of insider trading & flies around in her private jet preaching about global warming & green energy. Hypocrite does not come close, she is truly nuts.

  • thismustend

    Pelosi is MENTALLY ILL, drunk on her own power, she IS her own god. This woman/thing advocates MURDERING babies, has made a filthy fortune off of insider trading & flies around in her private jet preaching about global warming & green energy. Hypocrite does not come close, she is truly nuts.

  • Paul A.Hughes

    God, I absolutely love that picture of Piglosi. So accurate.

  • Paul A.Hughes

    God, I absolutely love that picture of Piglosi. So accurate.

  • Chet

    Outstanding piece! Start with denying such people the opportunity to partake of the Lord’s Supper or Holy Communion as such is being passed. When they acknowledge their Sins and Repent publicly for offenses they’ve brazenly committed publicy then welcome them back with open arms. And indeed this should apply along with any other Old and New Testament based public interaction within the congregartion of all churches of every denomination and non denomination as well as Jewish Synagogues. Sin pays wages and for far too long those who honor God with their lips have been skating publicly and indeed prospering. Be not deceived, God is not mocked for whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap Gal 6:7. And there are many OT examples of God’s dealing with wickedness, personally and nationally.

  • Chet

    Outstanding piece! Start with denying such people the opportunity to partake of the Lord’s Supper or Holy Communion as such is being passed. When they acknowledge their Sins and Repent publicly for offenses they’ve brazenly committed publicy then welcome them back with open arms. And indeed this should apply along with any other Old and New Testament based public interaction within the congregartion of all churches of every denomination and non denomination as well as Jewish Synagogues. Sin pays wages and for far too long those who honor God with their lips have been skating publicly and indeed prospering. Be not deceived, God is not mocked for whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap Gal 6:7. And there are many OT examples of God’s dealing with wickedness, personally and nationally.

  • Chet

    Outstanding piece! Start with denying such people the opportunity to partake of the Lord’s Supper or Holy Communion as such is being passed. When they acknowledge their Sins and Repent publicly for offenses they’ve brazenly committed publicy then welcome them back with open arms. And indeed this should apply along with any other Old and New Testament based public interaction within the congregartion of all churches of every denomination and non denomination as well as Jewish Synagogues. Sin pays wages and for far too long those who honor God with their lips have been skating publicly and indeed prospering. Be not deceived, God is not mocked for whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap Gal 6:7. And there are many OT examples of God’s dealing with wickedness, personally and nationally.

  • Deborah G

    I am A Christian and the torture they inflict[yes torture] on these beings being abort is beyond any comprehension . How they can live with themselves is beyond my imagination.

  • Mike the cowboy

    Great photo of an anti cristus witch hope she will burn in hell.

  • Mike the cowboy

    Great photo of an anti cristus witch hope she will burn in hell.

  • Mike the cowboy

    Great photo of an anti cristus witch hope she will burn in hell.

  • fed up

    Finally; someone calls out this self serving hypocrite!!.

  • fed up

    Finally; someone calls out this self serving hypocrite!!.

  • fed up

    Finally; someone calls out this self serving hypocrite!!.

  • 40Helen60

    Where did you find a picture of the wicked witch Pelosi? Looks just like her! Here’s a mother, grandmother and great-grandmother, yet she wants to murder the unborn. If it were an animal, she’d cry “Murderer!” Yet, a human being? “Kill, killl and kill some more!”

  • 40Helen60

    Where did you find a picture of the wicked witch Pelosi? Looks just like her! Here’s a mother, grandmother and great-grandmother, yet she wants to murder the unborn. If it were an animal, she’d cry “Murderer!” Yet, a human being? “Kill, killl and kill some more!”

  • 40Helen60

    Where did you find a picture of the wicked witch Pelosi? Looks just like her! Here’s a mother, grandmother and great-grandmother, yet she wants to murder the unborn. If it were an animal, she’d cry “Murderer!” Yet, a human being? “Kill, killl and kill some more!”

  • Thomas Sharp

    Pelosi is so ugly, she could make a freight train take a dirt road.
    The Devil doesn’t want her either, even though she is doing a great job for him.

  • Thomas Sharp

    Pelosi is so ugly, she could make a freight train take a dirt road.
    The Devil doesn’t want her either, even though she is doing a great job for him.

  • James

    The Cali Hag is a hopeless case and has a reservation in hell……..

  • James

    The Cali Hag is a hopeless case and has a reservation in hell……..

  • James

    The Cali Hag is a hopeless case and has a reservation in hell……..

  • monacall

    Yep ditto. All the above love ur articles. Mainly u call a spade a spade

  • monacall

    Yep ditto. All the above love ur articles. Mainly u call a spade a spade

  • monacall

    Yep ditto. All the above love ur articles. Mainly u call a spade a spade

  • ArnaudAmory

    Why is a Marxist like Pelosi even in a Church period? Marxist don’t believe in God! They equate religion with drug-addiction. You can’t be a Christian and be a Marxist! Its like a Jew trying to be a Nazi or a moderate muslim, no such animal exists! Anyway when progressives join a church, its not because they believe, its because they are using the church to advance leftist polices.

    • Beachtennisguy

      Well said. Statists worship government, not God.

    • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

      Last Saturday afternoon, in Washington , D.C, an aide to Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi visited the Cardinal of the Catholic cathedral in D.C. He told the Cardinal that Nancy Pelosi would be attending the next day’s Mass, and he asked if the Cardinal would kindly point out Pelosi to the congregation and say a few words that would include calling Pelosi a saint.

      The Cardinal replied, “No. I don’t really like the woman, and there are issues of conflict with the Catholic Church over certain of Pelosi’s views.

      Pelosi’s aide then said, “Look, I’ll write a check here and now for a donation of $10,000 to your church if you’ll just tell the congregation you see Pelosi as a saint.”

      The Cardinal thought about it and said, “Well, the church can use the money, so I’ll work your request into tomorrow’s sermon.”

      As Pelosi’s aide promised, Pelosi appeared for the Sunday worship and seated herself prominently at the forward left side of the center aisle. As promised, at the start of his sermon, the Cardinal pointed out that Pelosi was present.

      The Cardinal went on to explain to the congregation, “While Congresswoman Pelosi’s presence is probably an honor to some, the woman is not numbered among my personal favorite personages. Some of her views are contrary to tenets of the Church, and she tends to flip-flop on many other issues.

      Nancy Pelosi is a petty, self-absorbed hypocrite, a thumb sucker and a nit-wit. Nancy Pelosi is also a serial liar, a cheat, and a thief. I must say, Nancy Pelosi is the worst example of a Catholic I have ever personally witnessed. She married for money and is using her wealth to lie to the American people. She also has a reputation for shirking her Representative obligations both In Washington and in California . The woman is simply not to be trusted.”

      The Cardinal concluded, “But, when compared with President Obama, Pelosi is a saint”

      • jillocity

        great story…wish it was true…

      • jillocity

        great story…wish it was true…

    • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

      Last Saturday afternoon, in Washington , D.C, an aide to Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi visited the Cardinal of the Catholic cathedral in D.C. He told the Cardinal that Nancy Pelosi would be attending the next day’s Mass, and he asked if the Cardinal would kindly point out Pelosi to the congregation and say a few words that would include calling Pelosi a saint.

      The Cardinal replied, “No. I don’t really like the woman, and there are issues of conflict with the Catholic Church over certain of Pelosi’s views.

      Pelosi’s aide then said, “Look, I’ll write a check here and now for a donation of $10,000 to your church if you’ll just tell the congregation you see Pelosi as a saint.”

      The Cardinal thought about it and said, “Well, the church can use the money, so I’ll work your request into tomorrow’s sermon.”

      As Pelosi’s aide promised, Pelosi appeared for the Sunday worship and seated herself prominently at the forward left side of the center aisle. As promised, at the start of his sermon, the Cardinal pointed out that Pelosi was present.

      The Cardinal went on to explain to the congregation, “While Congresswoman Pelosi’s presence is probably an honor to some, the woman is not numbered among my personal favorite personages. Some of her views are contrary to tenets of the Church, and she tends to flip-flop on many other issues.

      Nancy Pelosi is a petty, self-absorbed hypocrite, a thumb sucker and a nit-wit. Nancy Pelosi is also a serial liar, a cheat, and a thief. I must say, Nancy Pelosi is the worst example of a Catholic I have ever personally witnessed. She married for money and is using her wealth to lie to the American people. She also has a reputation for shirking her Representative obligations both In Washington and in California . The woman is simply not to be trusted.”

      The Cardinal concluded, “But, when compared with President Obama, Pelosi is a saint”

    • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

      Last Saturday afternoon, in Washington , D.C, an aide to Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi visited the Cardinal of the Catholic cathedral in D.C. He told the Cardinal that Nancy Pelosi would be attending the next day’s Mass, and he asked if the Cardinal would kindly point out Pelosi to the congregation and say a few words that would include calling Pelosi a saint.

      The Cardinal replied, “No. I don’t really like the woman, and there are issues of conflict with the Catholic Church over certain of Pelosi’s views.

      Pelosi’s aide then said, “Look, I’ll write a check here and now for a donation of $10,000 to your church if you’ll just tell the congregation you see Pelosi as a saint.”

      The Cardinal thought about it and said, “Well, the church can use the money, so I’ll work your request into tomorrow’s sermon.”

      As Pelosi’s aide promised, Pelosi appeared for the Sunday worship and seated herself prominently at the forward left side of the center aisle. As promised, at the start of his sermon, the Cardinal pointed out that Pelosi was present.

      The Cardinal went on to explain to the congregation, “While Congresswoman Pelosi’s presence is probably an honor to some, the woman is not numbered among my personal favorite personages. Some of her views are contrary to tenets of the Church, and she tends to flip-flop on many other issues.

      Nancy Pelosi is a petty, self-absorbed hypocrite, a thumb sucker and a nit-wit. Nancy Pelosi is also a serial liar, a cheat, and a thief. I must say, Nancy Pelosi is the worst example of a Catholic I have ever personally witnessed. She married for money and is using her wealth to lie to the American people. She also has a reputation for shirking her Representative obligations both In Washington and in California . The woman is simply not to be trusted.”

      The Cardinal concluded, “But, when compared with President Obama, Pelosi is a saint”

    • dmr2701

      Marxist have infiltrated every church to spread their social gospel and weaken and distort real Christianity. They must undermine the morality of the country in order to weaken the opposition. They have been quite successful, don’t you think? They work for their master, Satan, though unaware that they follow his every bidding.

    • dmr2701

      Marxist have infiltrated every church to spread their social gospel and weaken and distort real Christianity. They must undermine the morality of the country in order to weaken the opposition. They have been quite successful, don’t you think? They work for their master, Satan, though unaware that they follow his every bidding.

    • dmr2701

      Marxist have infiltrated every church to spread their social gospel and weaken and distort real Christianity. They must undermine the morality of the country in order to weaken the opposition. They have been quite successful, don’t you think? They work for their master, Satan, though unaware that they follow his every bidding.

  • regulus30

    dementia is a terrible disease.

  • Beachtennisguy

    This is way overdue. May God bless Father Pavone and the other Priests for Life. Why isn’t every priest a Priest for LIfe?

    May this be part of a major effort to rebuke and remove pro-aborts from elected and unelected offices. If you can’t trust them with innocent human life, you can’t trust them with anything.

    The Catholic Church should have taken a strong stand in 2008 against the election of the caliph of infanticide, now comfortably defiling the White House.

    • JBQ21

      Father Pavone righteously spoke out. In 2008, just before the election the outspoken AB Raymond Burke was removed as AB of St. Louis and shipped to the Vatican for his views on giving Communion to Catholic abortion politicians. I have definite proof of such with emails from the Chancery. A priest at his supported Institute brought from Lacrosse, WI, who called the candidate Obama a modern day King Herod for his killing of the innocents was slapped down and shipped out of town while his pastor was shipped back to Germany. The recent meeting of T Dolan on Palm Sunday with J Biden in the St. Pat Rectory for doughnuts and coffee after making sure that he received Communion should give an indication of just where this is going for the U.S. Bishops.

    • JBQ21

      Father Pavone righteously spoke out. In 2008, just before the election the outspoken AB Raymond Burke was removed as AB of St. Louis and shipped to the Vatican for his views on giving Communion to Catholic abortion politicians. I have definite proof of such with emails from the Chancery. A priest at his supported Institute brought from Lacrosse, WI, who called the candidate Obama a modern day King Herod for his killing of the innocents was slapped down and shipped out of town while his pastor was shipped back to Germany. The recent meeting of T Dolan on Palm Sunday with J Biden in the St. Pat Rectory for doughnuts and coffee after making sure that he received Communion should give an indication of just where this is going for the U.S. Bishops.

      • Beachtennisguy

        Good insights. Just read that Burke warned that the Democrat Party was becoming the party of death, and that no Catholic aware of Obama’s agenda could vote for him in good conscience. That’s moral clarity.

        Dolan was mentioned as a candidate for pope. Good thing the cardinals made a better selection.

        • JBQ21

          The fear is that a deal has been struck between the American bishops and the Democratic Party.

        • JBQ21

          The fear is that a deal has been struck between the American bishops and the Democratic Party.

        • JBQ21

          The fear is that a deal has been struck between the American bishops and the Democratic Party.

      • Beachtennisguy

        Good insights. Just read that Burke warned that the Democrat Party was becoming the party of death, and that no Catholic aware of Obama’s agenda could vote for him in good conscience. That’s moral clarity.

        Dolan was mentioned as a candidate for pope. Good thing the cardinals made a better selection.

      • Beachtennisguy

        Good insights. Just read that Burke warned that the Democrat Party was becoming the party of death, and that no Catholic aware of Obama’s agenda could vote for him in good conscience. That’s moral clarity.

        Dolan was mentioned as a candidate for pope. Good thing the cardinals made a better selection.

  • leesjokers

    “I’M A CATHOLIC, & I’M AGAINST ABORTION”…

  • del

    This old gal is despised by most true patriots and only liked by old soros who bought her way into congress, the low informed and those on the dole! Her stupidity is appalling!

  • paco12348

    You missed it on idolatry. They idolize their seat of power in Congress. Anything for a vote. Lies upon top of lies if they can just keep their seat.

  • paco12348

    How about breaking her Oath to protect the Constitution? She put her hand upon the Bible and swore an Oath.

    • Eddi G.

      She had her fingers of her other hand crossed behind her back while taking the oath.

  • Jeff Shouse

    Nancy joined a satanic cult many moons ago. It’s called being a leftist.

  • UnCL3

    She should have been excommunicated forever ago…

  • UnCL3

    She should have been excommunicated forever ago…

  • UnCL3

    She should have been excommunicated forever ago…

  • James

    Pelosi believes that Staten is a democrat, therefore Staten
    is the one to follow, but if the truth be known even Staten does not want Pelosi.

  • James

    Pelosi believes that Staten is a democrat, therefore Staten
    is the one to follow, but if the truth be known even Staten does not want Pelosi.

  • James

    Pelosi believes that Staten is a democrat, therefore Staten
    is the one to follow, but if the truth be known even Staten does not want Pelosi.

  • Reelman1946

    The tolerance of my lifelong Church for the democrat (aka utopian secular socialists) is amazing…TeddyK, Kerry, Pelosi…year after year they defied/disobeyed key Church tenants, even to the point of aggressively doing so and trashing my Church…
    yet claiming they could pick and choose as they wished!

    All 3 should have been booted at least a decade ago…imagine a Morman or a Moslem doing things like that to their religion…just imagine how many years that would last.

    Boot them NOW!
    Landrieu got so much justified heat from her NOLA Bishop she became an Episcopal I heard…bravo for that Bishop…of course, she could have been beheaded..
    that has happened…LOL…sort of.

  • Reelman1946

    The tolerance of my lifelong Church for the democrat (aka utopian secular socialists) is amazing…TeddyK, Kerry, Pelosi…year after year they defied/disobeyed key Church tenants, even to the point of aggressively doing so and trashing my Church…
    yet claiming they could pick and choose as they wished!

    All 3 should have been booted at least a decade ago…imagine a Morman or a Moslem doing things like that to their religion…just imagine how many years that would last.

    Boot them NOW!
    Landrieu got so much justified heat from her NOLA Bishop she became an Episcopal I heard…bravo for that Bishop…of course, she could have been beheaded..
    that has happened…LOL…sort of.

  • Reelman1946

    The tolerance of my lifelong Church for the democrat (aka utopian secular socialists) is amazing…TeddyK, Kerry, Pelosi…year after year they defied/disobeyed key Church tenants, even to the point of aggressively doing so and trashing my Church…
    yet claiming they could pick and choose as they wished!

    All 3 should have been booted at least a decade ago…imagine a Morman or a Moslem doing things like that to their religion…just imagine how many years that would last.

    Boot them NOW!
    Landrieu got so much justified heat from her NOLA Bishop she became an Episcopal I heard…bravo for that Bishop…of course, she could have been beheaded..
    that has happened…LOL…sort of.

  • Don Walker

    pelosi is on drugs she needs drug teasted and put in prison for life she is not fit to be in office she broke the laws of our country she belongs in prison

  • Don Walker

    pelosi is on drugs she needs drug teasted and put in prison for life she is not fit to be in office she broke the laws of our country she belongs in prison

  • Morgan23

    Not a very complimentary picture of the Ex Speaker. TSK TSK TSK. Amazing resemblance I must say its about time the Catholic Church got off its Progressive _ _ _.
    That’s the problem with the Liberals, they have forgotten that when you give a man a fish and he eats for a day, when you teach a man to fish and he eats forever.
    Get off of the gravy train and get to work providing the Leadership Christ wanted you to provide.
    All Catholice who voted for the devil Obama should be excommunicated for ten years

  • Morgan23

    Not a very complimentary picture of the Ex Speaker. TSK TSK TSK. Amazing resemblance I must say its about time the Catholic Church got off its Progressive _ _ _.
    That’s the problem with the Liberals, they have forgotten that when you give a man a fish and he eats for a day, when you teach a man to fish and he eats forever.
    Get off of the gravy train and get to work providing the Leadership Christ wanted you to provide.
    All Catholice who voted for the devil Obama should be excommunicated for ten years

  • DAY8293A

    PELOSI IS ABOUT AS CATHOLIC AS THE ILLEGAL ALIEN mUSLIM OVOMIT IS A CHRISTIAN! PRIESTS AND PASTORS ACROSS THE NATION SHOULD HAVE STOOD UP AGAINST ALL THE DEMO CRAP POLITICIANS ACROSS THE NATION VOTING FOR ABORTION A LONG TIME AGO!!!

  • DAY8293A

    PELOSI IS ABOUT AS CATHOLIC AS THE ILLEGAL ALIEN mUSLIM OVOMIT IS A CHRISTIAN! PRIESTS AND PASTORS ACROSS THE NATION SHOULD HAVE STOOD UP AGAINST ALL THE DEMO CRAP POLITICIANS ACROSS THE NATION VOTING FOR ABORTION A LONG TIME AGO!!!

  • johnanaguski

    Wow, could you see being married to that wild woman.

  • johnanaguski

    Wow, could you see being married to that wild woman.

  • johnanaguski

    Wow, could you see being married to that wild woman.

  • Red55bird

    For way to long now we aloud Politian’s to over rule Gods Law and take it on themselves to make man’s law over Gods Law. Politian’s like Nancy Pelosi who clam to be a Catholic is a slap in the face of all Christians. There is no reason in Nancy double talk that women have more right’s then there unborn child and to take away the right of abortion would be unconstitutional to women, then she tells everyone she is Catholic. We all know how God will judge her come judgment day and the evil person that she is. From 1972 until now this nation has slaughter more then 50 million baby’s cutting short the life of God’s children, can no one see the evil that is going on in these so call Plan Parenthood clinic’s, does anyone think God is ok with this. Men and Women who call themselves doctor’s performing abortion to end the life of a unborn child, no let’s call it for what it is, murder of the innocent who cannot define for themselves.

  • Red55bird

    For way to long now we aloud Politian’s to over rule Gods Law and take it on themselves to make man’s law over Gods Law. Politian’s like Nancy Pelosi who clam to be a Catholic is a slap in the face of all Christians. There is no reason in Nancy double talk that women have more right’s then there unborn child and to take away the right of abortion would be unconstitutional to women, then she tells everyone she is Catholic. We all know how God will judge her come judgment day and the evil person that she is. From 1972 until now this nation has slaughter more then 50 million baby’s cutting short the life of God’s children, can no one see the evil that is going on in these so call Plan Parenthood clinic’s, does anyone think God is ok with this. Men and Women who call themselves doctor’s performing abortion to end the life of a unborn child, no let’s call it for what it is, murder of the innocent who cannot define for themselves.

  • eyeball

    I think the election of Pope Francis I will be a call for good priests to step up and speak from the heart and the conscience. Jesus called the Pharisees exactly what they were: Whitened sepulchers, bright and clean on the outside, but full of the corruption of death on the inside. Catholic Priests are taking up the task of calling “sin” by its rightful name — SIN. Pelosi is not the only “catholic” who is blaspheming the name of GOD in their political action. Nor are they the only “christians” urinating on the Word of God. I’m angry and ashamed of Pelosi. Biden, Sebelius — all “catholic.” But I’m also angered and ashamed by Obama, Reid, Gosnell, Feinstein and others who claim to be “human.” How in all God-given humanity can one support the murder of a child waiting, struggling to be among all of us, given the spark of LIFE by GOD Himself. How can this happen in this “civilized” society that we CHOOSE to kill our own children? And guess what: If you voted for one of these, knowing their support for child-murder, then YOU are also guilty. You need to seriously think about that, remembering that you own singular soul is at this moment ETERNAL, and you will be confronted with your acts by Jesus, after you have had your “chances” in this life. How will you answer? What will you say? Remember, NO ONE will be standing with you. Just you, and Jesus.

  • eyeball

    I think the election of Pope Francis I will be a call for good priests to step up and speak from the heart and the conscience. Jesus called the Pharisees exactly what they were: Whitened sepulchers, bright and clean on the outside, but full of the corruption of death on the inside. Catholic Priests are taking up the task of calling “sin” by its rightful name — SIN. Pelosi is not the only “catholic” who is blaspheming the name of GOD in their political action. Nor are they the only “christians” urinating on the Word of God. I’m angry and ashamed of Pelosi. Biden, Sebelius — all “catholic.” But I’m also angered and ashamed by Obama, Reid, Gosnell, Feinstein and others who claim to be “human.” How in all God-given humanity can one support the murder of a child waiting, struggling to be among all of us, given the spark of LIFE by GOD Himself. How can this happen in this “civilized” society that we CHOOSE to kill our own children? And guess what: If you voted for one of these, knowing their support for child-murder, then YOU are also guilty. You need to seriously think about that, remembering that you own singular soul is at this moment ETERNAL, and you will be confronted with your acts by Jesus, after you have had your “chances” in this life. How will you answer? What will you say? Remember, NO ONE will be standing with you. Just you, and Jesus.

  • Moses

    Pastors and priests seem to be afraid of the “Word of God” scaring tithers away! Church has become business and Political Correctness is the word of the day!
    Shame on them! They will also be held accountable for failing to speak up, and it’s seems that “DAY” may be fast approaching!!! Revelations

  • Moses

    Pastors and priests seem to be afraid of the “Word of God” scaring tithers away! Church has become business and Political Correctness is the word of the day!
    Shame on them! They will also be held accountable for failing to speak up, and it’s seems that “DAY” may be fast approaching!!! Revelations

  • Moses

    Pastors and priests seem to be afraid of the “Word of God” scaring tithers away! Church has become business and Political Correctness is the word of the day!
    Shame on them! They will also be held accountable for failing to speak up, and it’s seems that “DAY” may be fast approaching!!! Revelations

  • BrooklynResident

    According to the epistles, a person who takes communion, yet is in sin, takes condemnation into himself. It is good practice to allow the communicant to assess his own sincerity, as he bears the responsibility for his sin. He alone bears the penalty for his sin.

    Having said that, PelosI ought to be excommunicated, for there are ample documents bearing her signature which show her avid involvement in the Deeds of Darkness. She should be offered the opportunity to disavow these crimes, then, when she refuses to do so, she may be told…to get out and go to Hell.

    Which she undoubtedly will, linked in carnal union with His Satanic Majesty forever.

  • BrooklynResident

    According to the epistles, a person who takes communion, yet is in sin, takes condemnation into himself. It is good practice to allow the communicant to assess his own sincerity, as he bears the responsibility for his sin. He alone bears the penalty for his sin.

    Having said that, PelosI ought to be excommunicated, for there are ample documents bearing her signature which show her avid involvement in the Deeds of Darkness. She should be offered the opportunity to disavow these crimes, then, when she refuses to do so, she may be told…to get out and go to Hell.

    Which she undoubtedly will, linked in carnal union with His Satanic Majesty forever.

  • BrooklynResident

    According to the epistles, a person who takes communion, yet is in sin, takes condemnation into himself. It is good practice to allow the communicant to assess his own sincerity, as he bears the responsibility for his sin. He alone bears the penalty for his sin.

    Having said that, PelosI ought to be excommunicated, for there are ample documents bearing her signature which show her avid involvement in the Deeds of Darkness. She should be offered the opportunity to disavow these crimes, then, when she refuses to do so, she may be told…to get out and go to Hell.

    Which she undoubtedly will, linked in carnal union with His Satanic Majesty forever.

  • Eddi G.

    I was born,baptized,and raised Catholic, altar boy proficient with Latin,parochial school, the works. I embraced my Catholicism with a nuptial high mass (try getting one today unless you’re a moneybags) in taking on the Sacrament of Matrimony. I’ve still the same partner after 49 years, married the girl next door. The piousness,the latin,the Gregorian Chant,the beauty of it all has been lost for many years to a left wing liberal clergy and hypocrite nitwits in the congregation. I still embrace my love and respect for the Almighty,His Son Jesus,and the Mother Mary, but am diametrically opposed to leftist boobs who prevail in the clergy today. It’s nothing new, the church has been corrupted for centuries, i.e. the Spanish Inquisitions by then Dominicans over witchcraft and leading to the torture and slaughter of innocents,especially women. Sadism having it’s finest hour at the hands of those professing to be priests as ordained ministers of God. And now today, the slaughter of innocent millions at the Altars of Planned Parenthood as endorsed by so called “ardent” Catholics, Nancy Pelosi and John Kerry, and their co-joining with the same endorsement by radical Marxist Muslim Barack Obama. The Padres are right in telling Nancy to renounce her faith or renounce abortion but she can’t have her cake and eat it too. Time for Pope Francis to get on the stick and excommunicate her and Kerry both. Nice to see some members of clergy serving God as they were ordained to do, I might just start going back to Mass again.

    • ilpatriot58

      Agtee with you on all counts, but don’t stay away from Mass on their account….go back to Mass and pray for them (it will stick in your throat the first few times) but it is the right thing to do.

    • ilpatriot58

      Agtee with you on all counts, but don’t stay away from Mass on their account….go back to Mass and pray for them (it will stick in your throat the first few times) but it is the right thing to do.

    • ilpatriot58

      Agtee with you on all counts, but don’t stay away from Mass on their account….go back to Mass and pray for them (it will stick in your throat the first few times) but it is the right thing to do.

  • Eddi G.

    I was born,baptized,and raised Catholic, altar boy proficient with Latin,parochial school, the works. I embraced my Catholicism with a nuptial high mass (try getting one today unless you’re a moneybags) in taking on the Sacrament of Matrimony. I’ve still the same partner after 49 years, married the girl next door. The piousness,the latin,the Gregorian Chant,the beauty of it all has been lost for many years to a left wing liberal clergy and hypocrite nitwits in the congregation. I still embrace my love and respect for the Almighty,His Son Jesus,and the Mother Mary, but am diametrically opposed to leftist boobs who prevail in the clergy today. It’s nothing new, the church has been corrupted for centuries, i.e. the Spanish Inquisitions by then Dominicans over witchcraft and leading to the torture and slaughter of innocents,especially women. Sadism having it’s finest hour at the hands of those professing to be priests as ordained ministers of God. And now today, the slaughter of innocent millions at the Altars of Planned Parenthood as endorsed by so called “ardent” Catholics, Nancy Pelosi and John Kerry, and their co-joining with the same endorsement by radical Marxist Muslim Barack Obama. The Padres are right in telling Nancy to renounce her faith or renounce abortion but she can’t have her cake and eat it too. Time for Pope Francis to get on the stick and excommunicate her and Kerry both. Nice to see some members of clergy serving God as they were ordained to do, I might just start going back to Mass again.

  • Eddi G.

    I was born,baptized,and raised Catholic, altar boy proficient with Latin,parochial school, the works. I embraced my Catholicism with a nuptial high mass (try getting one today unless you’re a moneybags) in taking on the Sacrament of Matrimony. I’ve still the same partner after 49 years, married the girl next door. The piousness,the latin,the Gregorian Chant,the beauty of it all has been lost for many years to a left wing liberal clergy and hypocrite nitwits in the congregation. I still embrace my love and respect for the Almighty,His Son Jesus,and the Mother Mary, but am diametrically opposed to leftist boobs who prevail in the clergy today. It’s nothing new, the church has been corrupted for centuries, i.e. the Spanish Inquisitions by then Dominicans over witchcraft and leading to the torture and slaughter of innocents,especially women. Sadism having it’s finest hour at the hands of those professing to be priests as ordained ministers of God. And now today, the slaughter of innocent millions at the Altars of Planned Parenthood as endorsed by so called “ardent” Catholics, Nancy Pelosi and John Kerry, and their co-joining with the same endorsement by radical Marxist Muslim Barack Obama. The Padres are right in telling Nancy to renounce her faith or renounce abortion but she can’t have her cake and eat it too. Time for Pope Francis to get on the stick and excommunicate her and Kerry both. Nice to see some members of clergy serving God as they were ordained to do, I might just start going back to Mass again.

  • sovereigntyofone

    It is my understanding that ” communists ” don’t believe in God anyway, so this religious curtain Nancy Pelosi hides behind is just a smoke screen. The only thing ” communists ” believe in is the ” Party ” , the communist party.
    Just my 2 cents worth.

  • sovereigntyofone

    It is my understanding that ” communists ” don’t believe in God anyway, so this religious curtain Nancy Pelosi hides behind is just a smoke screen. The only thing ” communists ” believe in is the ” Party ” , the communist party.
    Just my 2 cents worth.

  • Len

    They were right on with Pelosi; but there should be “equal treatement” for Biden, Sibelius, etc. There are many Cafeteria Catholics out there. The USCCB should be all over every one of them. The silence is a major scandal.

  • jr61020

    This woman needs to be excommunicated.

  • jr61020

    This woman needs to be excommunicated.

  • James Maxwell

    The picture of Nancy Pelosi is the most honest I’ve seen so far, ugly
    in life, ugly in everything she and her companions in hades do and

    believe in.

  • James Maxwell

    The picture of Nancy Pelosi is the most honest I’ve seen so far, ugly
    in life, ugly in everything she and her companions in hades do and

    believe in.

  • James Maxwell

    The picture of Nancy Pelosi is the most honest I’ve seen so far, ugly
    in life, ugly in everything she and her companions in hades do and

    believe in.

  • earlwatters

    best picture of her that i have ever seen.you ought to see her when she gets up in the morning with out make up on geeeeeeeee

  • earlwatters

    best picture of her that i have ever seen.you ought to see her when she gets up in the morning with out make up on geeeeeeeee

    • jaybird

      How did you see that picture???

    • jaybird

      How did you see that picture???

    • jaybird

      How did you see that picture???

  • earlwatters

    best picture of her that i have ever seen.you ought to see her when she gets up in the morning with out make up on geeeeeeeee

  • jaybird

    The Church needs to perform a group exorcism for her and others in this administration, she looks possessed even when it is not a cartoon picture.

  • jaybird

    The Church needs to perform a group exorcism for her and others in this administration, she looks possessed even when it is not a cartoon picture.

  • jaybird

    The Church needs to perform a group exorcism for her and others in this administration, she looks possessed even when it is not a cartoon picture.

  • earlwatters

    will i was drunk one night i guess i picked her up at one of the bars then when i woke up in the morning i crap my pants.and though dam this was worst then being back in vietnam

  • earlwatters

    will i was drunk one night i guess i picked her up at one of the bars then when i woke up in the morning i crap my pants.and though dam this was worst then being back in vietnam

  • earlwatters

    will i was drunk one night i guess i picked her up at one of the bars then when i woke up in the morning i crap my pants.and though dam this was worst then being back in vietnam

  • Al Chemist

    The picture says it all.

  • Sagebrush6

    Why do you think the District of Corruption wanted all traces of the 10 commandments remove ? Gets in their way of life.

    • SATCitizen

      Like that. . .District of Corruption. . .how true that is!

    • SATCitizen

      Like that. . .District of Corruption. . .how true that is!

    • SATCitizen

      Like that. . .District of Corruption. . .how true that is!

  • Sagebrush6

    Why do you think the District of Corruption wanted all traces of the 10 commandments remove ? Gets in their way of life.

  • redpens

    That must be Pelosi’s face when botox stops working

  • redpens

    That must be Pelosi’s face when botox stops working

  • ilpatriot58

    Great article! It is time for Pope Francis to issue the documents of excommunication for her and any other Catholic who has signed onto the abortion bandwagon.

  • ilpatriot58

    Great article! It is time for Pope Francis to issue the documents of excommunication for her and any other Catholic who has signed onto the abortion bandwagon.

  • ilpatriot58

    Great article! It is time for Pope Francis to issue the documents of excommunication for her and any other Catholic who has signed onto the abortion bandwagon.

  • Dal Sirany

    The following was said by the Blessed Virgin Mary in one of Her Appearances in Medjugorie, Herzegovina, : “How many people come to church, to the house of God,with respect, a strong faith, and love God? VERY FEW!”

    Keep in mind, the Appearances of The Blessed Virgin Mary are not of Her will, but by the will of God, so also, what She speaks is not of Her own free will,, but that of God as well. God knows the depths of our true nature and what we think, so these words should make people think. One can’t hide or deceive Him.

  • Dal Sirany

    The following was said by the Blessed Virgin Mary in one of Her Appearances in Medjugorie, Herzegovina, : “How many people come to church, to the house of God,with respect, a strong faith, and love God? VERY FEW!”

    Keep in mind, the Appearances of The Blessed Virgin Mary are not of Her will, but by the will of God, so also, what She speaks is not of Her own free will,, but that of God as well. God knows the depths of our true nature and what we think, so these words should make people think. One can’t hide or deceive Him.

  • Shirley

    I did not know she pretends to be a catholic. I am not the best person on this earth, but I practice my religion and keep the faith to keep my sanity and perspective. This is what I do know, the biggest scandels of our time are abortion, contraception, same sex marriage and yet to be seen in action, dare I say, the afforable care act. Nancy is caught up in the power and privledge, and lost her sense of responsibility to her maker and to those she represents.

  • Shirley

    I did not know she pretends to be a catholic. I am not the best person on this earth, but I practice my religion and keep the faith to keep my sanity and perspective. This is what I do know, the biggest scandels of our time are abortion, contraception, same sex marriage and yet to be seen in action, dare I say, the afforable care act. Nancy is caught up in the power and privledge, and lost her sense of responsibility to her maker and to those she represents.

  • rockcut

    The Priest of Life engage in Political views period. They are a far right leanding organization ….

  • loboohio .

    You Roman Catholics aren’t alone. At least you have these priests speaking out. I’m Protestant and don’t know of any churches taking a pro active role in fighting this abomination. Oh, the issue may be addressed from the pulpit on occasion, but where are the clergy and congregation on the picket lines outside the abortion mills?

    This world is unbelievably evil and wont change until Christ’s return, which I pray is soon.

  • loboohio .

    You Roman Catholics aren’t alone. At least you have these priests speaking out. I’m Protestant and don’t know of any churches taking a pro active role in fighting this abomination. Oh, the issue may be addressed from the pulpit on occasion, but where are the clergy and congregation on the picket lines outside the abortion mills?

    This world is unbelievably evil and wont change until Christ’s return, which I pray is soon.

  • pete

    And don’t forget Biden…another Catholic in name only. All this social justice crap has been propagated for decades by the Jesuits. They support a communist agenda and have been at odds with the Vatican because of it.

  • pete

    And don’t forget Biden…another Catholic in name only. All this social justice crap has been propagated for decades by the Jesuits. They support a communist agenda and have been at odds with the Vatican because of it.

  • pysco

    Give her a break, she’s retarded, she can hear the voices of the dead, like Son of Sam hearing commandments from a dog. She is in dire need of mental evaluation.

  • pysco

    Give her a break, she’s retarded, she can hear the voices of the dead, like Son of Sam hearing commandments from a dog. She is in dire need of mental evaluation.

  • pysco

    Give her a break, she’s retarded, she can hear the voices of the dead, like Son of Sam hearing commandments from a dog. She is in dire need of mental evaluation.

  • barb patton

    Congratulations this is the first great picture I have seen of Pelosi as she really is – now her horrible face fits her stupid asinine quotes out of her botox mouth

  • oldironsides

    Great article. I signed up for messages on the Priests For Life web site. I can only wish that our new Pope will begin to Excommunicate these phony Catholic politicians.

    • Ruger S Redhawk

      The Pope doesn’t need to excommunicate her. Her local Bishop can formally do that. Her local priest can deny her the sacraments because of her outspoken anti-Catholic views on doctrine.
      Bishops are loathe to go to that extreme but to their detriment, because it scandalizes other Catholics who see and know that she is not in union with Church teaching.
      In fact she has “excommunicated” herself because of her views.
      She and others like Biden, Sebelius and deceased Ted Kennedy are CINO’s
      Catholic In Name Only.
      You can’t be a cafeteria Catholic on choosing which doctrines of the Church you will accept and which ones you will reject – it doesn’t work that way.

      • oldironsides

        I agree with you except in two things. Pelosi is too powerful within her district and the local Priests or Bishop or even the Cardinal would face political pressure to avoid the scandal of an Excommunication. Secondly, leadership starts from the top. The new Pope needs to set an example for everyone down the chain of command.

      • oldironsides

        I agree with you except in two things. Pelosi is too powerful within her district and the local Priests or Bishop or even the Cardinal would face political pressure to avoid the scandal of an Excommunication. Secondly, leadership starts from the top. The new Pope needs to set an example for everyone down the chain of command.

      • oldironsides

        I agree with you except in two things. Pelosi is too powerful within her district and the local Priests or Bishop or even the Cardinal would face political pressure to avoid the scandal of an Excommunication. Secondly, leadership starts from the top. The new Pope needs to set an example for everyone down the chain of command.

  • oldironsides

    Great article. I signed up for messages on the Priests For Life web site. I can only wish that our new Pope will begin to Excommunicate these phony Catholic politicians.

  • oldironsides

    Great article. I signed up for messages on the Priests For Life web site. I can only wish that our new Pope will begin to Excommunicate these phony Catholic politicians.

  • Hoodoo H

    Pelosi, Boxer or Frankenfeinstein…
    No matter what subject or letter I write, I never get a reply, just a Robo-F.U… in this form shown below:

    Dear Mr. ….:
    Thank you for taking the time to write and share your views with me.  Your comments will help me continue to represent you and other Californians to the best of my ability.  Be assured that I will keep your views in mind as the Senate considers legislation on this or similar issues.
     If you would like additional information about my work in the U.S. Senate, I invite you to visit my website, http://boxer.senate.gov.  From this site, you can access my statements and press releases about current events and pending legislation, request copies of legislation and government reports, and receive detailed information about the many services that I am privileged to provide for my constituents.  You may also wish to visit http://thomas.loc.gov to track current and past federal legislation.
    Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me.  I appreciate hearing from you.

    Sincerely,

    Barbara Boxer
    United States Senator
    Please do not respond to this message. If you would like to comment on legislation, please visit my website and use the correspondence form at https://www.boxer.senate.gov/en/contact/policycomments.cfm.

    ANYONE ELSE GET THESE CHICKENS__T REPLIES?

  • Hoodoo H

    Pelosi, Boxer or Frankenfeinstein…
    No matter what subject or letter I write, I never get a reply, just a Robo-F.U… in this form shown below:

    Dear Mr. ….:
    Thank you for taking the time to write and share your views with me.  Your comments will help me continue to represent you and other Californians to the best of my ability.  Be assured that I will keep your views in mind as the Senate considers legislation on this or similar issues.
     If you would like additional information about my work in the U.S. Senate, I invite you to visit my website, http://boxer.senate.gov.  From this site, you can access my statements and press releases about current events and pending legislation, request copies of legislation and government reports, and receive detailed information about the many services that I am privileged to provide for my constituents.  You may also wish to visit http://thomas.loc.gov to track current and past federal legislation.
    Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me.  I appreciate hearing from you.

    Sincerely,

    Barbara Boxer
    United States Senator
    Please do not respond to this message. If you would like to comment on legislation, please visit my website and use the correspondence form at https://www.boxer.senate.gov/en/contact/policycomments.cfm.

    ANYONE ELSE GET THESE CHICKENS__T REPLIES?

  • Hoodoo H

    Pelosi, Boxer or Frankenfeinstein…
    No matter what subject or letter I write, I never get a reply, just a Robo-F.U… in this form shown below:

    Dear Mr. ….:
    Thank you for taking the time to write and share your views with me.  Your comments will help me continue to represent you and other Californians to the best of my ability.  Be assured that I will keep your views in mind as the Senate considers legislation on this or similar issues.
     If you would like additional information about my work in the U.S. Senate, I invite you to visit my website, http://boxer.senate.gov.  From this site, you can access my statements and press releases about current events and pending legislation, request copies of legislation and government reports, and receive detailed information about the many services that I am privileged to provide for my constituents.  You may also wish to visit http://thomas.loc.gov to track current and past federal legislation.
    Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me.  I appreciate hearing from you.

    Sincerely,

    Barbara Boxer
    United States Senator
    Please do not respond to this message. If you would like to comment on legislation, please visit my website and use the correspondence form at https://www.boxer.senate.gov/en/contact/policycomments.cfm.

    ANYONE ELSE GET THESE CHICKENS__T REPLIES?

  • norman p.r.

    They Live, OBEY

  • norman p.r.

    They Live, OBEY

  • norman p.r.

    They Live, OBEY

  • harley93

    Nancy is a scum bag and a politcial whore.

  • harley93

    Nancy is a scum bag and a politcial whore.

  • DJ_Fisher

    They might not think they are into satan but ole Lu has these politicians by the cahones.

  • DJ_Fisher

    They might not think they are into satan but ole Lu has these politicians by the cahones.

  • DJ_Fisher

    They might not think they are into satan but ole Lu has these politicians by the cahones.

  • jerry1944

    some time I wonder if anybody in cali . knows GOD but I am sure pelois hasn’t talked to him in some time if she every did know him

  • jerry1944

    some time I wonder if anybody in cali . knows GOD but I am sure pelois hasn’t talked to him in some time if she every did know him

  • jerry1944

    some time I wonder if anybody in cali . knows GOD but I am sure pelois hasn’t talked to him in some time if she every did know him

  • bamasucks

    Botox pelosi is a despicable creature at best. I trully believe she sleeps upside down, clinging to the ceiling.Can you imagine the IQ of people that would vote this troll back into office over and over again. Thousand of them are unemployed,under employed and under paid. She pushed to raise the minimum wage for all Americans, well all except Guam where her family owns the tuna canning Star Kist facility, which was exempt from that legislation. if you shaved that ugly mop of hers you would very likely see 666 burned inti her serpent hide.

  • bamasucks

    Botox pelosi is a despicable creature at best. I trully believe she sleeps upside down, clinging to the ceiling.Can you imagine the IQ of people that would vote this troll back into office over and over again. Thousand of them are unemployed,under employed and under paid. She pushed to raise the minimum wage for all Americans, well all except Guam where her family owns the tuna canning Star Kist facility, which was exempt from that legislation. if you shaved that ugly mop of hers you would very likely see 666 burned inti her serpent hide.

  • bamasucks

    Botox pelosi is a despicable creature at best. I trully believe she sleeps upside down, clinging to the ceiling.Can you imagine the IQ of people that would vote this troll back into office over and over again. Thousand of them are unemployed,under employed and under paid. She pushed to raise the minimum wage for all Americans, well all except Guam where her family owns the tuna canning Star Kist facility, which was exempt from that legislation. if you shaved that ugly mop of hers you would very likely see 666 burned inti her serpent hide.

  • Ruger S Redhawk

    Like all Liberals she is under the impression that she will live forever and that her opinion matters – NOT!

    • Taskmasterendgame

      Nancy You Whore of Babylon
      I wish you would go to see your maker and let him judge you!
      What kind of BullShit are you going to try and lay on him?
      Good Luck with that!

    • Taskmasterendgame

      Nancy You Whore of Babylon
      I wish you would go to see your maker and let him judge you!
      What kind of BullShit are you going to try and lay on him?
      Good Luck with that!

  • Ruger S Redhawk

    Like all Liberals she is under the impression that she will live forever and that her opinion matters – NOT!

  • Ruger S Redhawk

    Like all Liberals she is under the impression that she will live forever and that her opinion matters – NOT!

  • Jane18

    The womb is supposed to be the “safest and most nurturing place”, in fact GOD compares HIS love for us to the womb! Today it is a potential Death Chamber…………Pelosi considers herself safe from GOD’s wrath……….hmmmmm, maybe not Nancy….just saying, not judging!!

  • Samuel Clemens

    OMG! Notice how the Lords name in vain is even an acronym now.

  • Samuel Clemens

    OMG! Notice how the Lords name in vain is even an acronym now.

  • TAM44

    DEMONCRATS praise Satan and throw God under a bus, and my question is was nancy pelosi hit by a bus?

  • TAM44

    DEMONCRATS praise Satan and throw God under a bus, and my question is was nancy pelosi hit by a bus?

  • TAM44

    DEMONCRATS praise Satan and throw God under a bus, and my question is was nancy pelosi hit by a bus?

  • SATCitizen

    Never seen the Botox looking so good. . .now we need to do the same thing with Joey and all the other cafeteria catholics choosing power over Christ. It’s about time she’s been rebuked. . .what took so long. . .and there are plenty more.

    As far as tradition. . .”But there are also many other things which Jesus did, which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written.” John 21:25

    Colossians 2:8, Titus 1:14, Isaiah 8:20, Revelation 22:19, Matthews 15:1-20, Mark 7:1-13, 2 Thessalonians 2:15, Jeremiah 39, 1 Corinthians 11:2, Galations 1:14, 2 Thessalonians 3:6 all mention tradition. We should be thankful for traditions; otherwise, we would be missing out on a lot. To this day traditions are celebrated. . .Scripture and Tradition go hand and hand. . .and we have the First Century Christians to thank!

  • SATCitizen

    Never seen the Botox looking so good. . .now we need to do the same thing with Joey and all the other cafeteria catholics choosing power over Christ. It’s about time she’s been rebuked. . .what took so long. . .and there are plenty more.

    As far as tradition. . .”But there are also many other things which Jesus did, which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written.” John 21:25

    Colossians 2:8, Titus 1:14, Isaiah 8:20, Revelation 22:19, Matthews 15:1-20, Mark 7:1-13, 2 Thessalonians 2:15, Jeremiah 39, 1 Corinthians 11:2, Galations 1:14, 2 Thessalonians 3:6 all mention tradition. We should be thankful for traditions; otherwise, we would be missing out on a lot. To this day traditions are celebrated. . .Scripture and Tradition go hand and hand. . .and we have the First Century Christians to thank!

  • Stan Parrish

    If Pelosi is Catholic, I’m Napoleon Bonaparte. You have to believe in the tenets of a faith to claim membership.

  • Light_V_Dark

    I’m 61, Doug. I have ALWAYS despised the Ultra-Sensitive-Posing-Pseudo-Intellectual-Bloodthirsty-Supercilious-Agrarian-COWARDLY-NIHILISTIC**-Gay-Hippies¿¿

    * * “Nothing exists; even if something exists, nothing can be known about it; and even if something can be known about it, knowledge about it can’t be communicated to others.” ― Gorgias tags: nihilism
    http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/nihilism?page=1

    Note: If you don’t lose your lunch, perusing this CRAP, please notice how many LIKES they receive—

    Addendum: Even most Clergry have bought into the Chicken-Little-Save-The-Planet-Schlock—

    Why is this MOPE, STILL BREATHING¿?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syvn-cNBrOU

  • Light_V_Dark

    I have seen Baby-Christians-Lite, whine about my quoting the Old Testament (JEW BIBLE).

    “Christians”, all sorts, DESPISE ME—

    This is WHY—
    The Bible isn’t just Happy-Talk. AND, Evil-People KNOW THIS! Most Christians cannot understand the TOUGH PARTS—

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Timothy%203&version=DRA

    2 Timothy 3
    Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
    -
    1 Know also this, that, in the last days, shall come dangerous times.
    -
    2 Men shall be lovers of themselves, covetous, haughty, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, wicked,
    -
    3 Without affection, without peace, slanderers, incontinent, unmerciful, without kindness,
    -
    4 Traitors, stubborn, puffed up, and lovers of pleasures more than of God:
    -
    5 Having an appearance indeed of godliness, but denying the power thereof. Now these avoid.

  • Light_V_Dark

    I have seen Baby-Christians-Lite, whine about my quoting the Old Testament (JEW BIBLE).

    “Christians”, all sorts, DESPISE ME—

    This is WHY—
    The Bible isn’t just Happy-Talk. AND, Evil-People KNOW THIS! Most Christians cannot understand the TOUGH PARTS—

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Timothy%203&version=DRA

    2 Timothy 3
    Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
    -
    1 Know also this, that, in the last days, shall come dangerous times.
    -
    2 Men shall be lovers of themselves, covetous, haughty, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, wicked,
    -
    3 Without affection, without peace, slanderers, incontinent, unmerciful, without kindness,
    -
    4 Traitors, stubborn, puffed up, and lovers of pleasures more than of God:
    -
    5 Having an appearance indeed of godliness, but denying the power thereof. Now these avoid.

  • Light_V_Dark

    http://pushbacknow.net/2012/12/18/passive-pastors-cowardly-christians-have-failed-america-stand-tall-for-jesus/

    Passive Pastors & Cowardly Christians Have Failed America. Stand Tall For Jesus!

    (for the war on terror Obama says does not exist)

    December 18, 2012

    “Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.” Galatians 5:19-21

    The killing of young children at their school will be linked by many pundits to the availability of guns. Still others will blame the violent act on some pathology or childhood trauma. Some may even blame the Hollywood culture with its disregard for humanity, on which human bodies are seen being dissected nightly on network TV. Virtually no one will call what occurred in Newtown an act of evil. –William Murray

    • Light_V_Dark

      Addendum: IF ANYBODY SHOULD KNOW, THIS MAN SHOULD!

      My mother, atheist Madalyn Murray O’Hair, fought to make the public schools the armed camps they are today by removing prayer, the recognition of the authority of God.

  • Light_V_Dark

    http://pushbacknow.net/2012/12/18/passive-pastors-cowardly-christians-have-failed-america-stand-tall-for-jesus/

    Passive Pastors & Cowardly Christians Have Failed America. Stand Tall For Jesus!

    (for the war on terror Obama says does not exist)

    December 18, 2012

    “Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.” Galatians 5:19-21

    The killing of young children at their school will be linked by many pundits to the availability of guns. Still others will blame the violent act on some pathology or childhood trauma. Some may even blame the Hollywood culture with its disregard for humanity, on which human bodies are seen being dissected nightly on network TV. Virtually no one will call what occurred in Newtown an act of evil. –William Murray

  • Liberty for All

    When will REID get His NOTICE from the ladder day saints.

  • Liberty for All

    When will REID get His NOTICE from the ladder day saints.

  • sunhawg

    I think Nancy Pelosi has already joined a satanic church. Like most Democrats, she can repeatedly lie while looking you right in the eye.

  • sunhawg

    I think Nancy Pelosi has already joined a satanic church. Like most Democrats, she can repeatedly lie while looking you right in the eye.

  • Light_V_Dark

    This one, then, good night.

    Revelation 21 says that COWARDS AREN’T GETTING INTO HEAVEN.

    Proverbs 28
    Verse 1
    Sin makes men cowards. Whatever difficulties the righteous meet in the way of duty, they are not daunted.
    Verse 2
    National sins disturb the public repose.
    Verse 3
    If needy persons get opportunities of oppressing, their extortion will be more severe than that of the more wealthy.
    Verse 4
    Wicked people strengthen one another in wicked ways.

  • Light_V_Dark

    This one, then, good night.

    Revelation 21 says that COWARDS AREN’T GETTING INTO HEAVEN.

    Proverbs 28
    Verse 1
    Sin makes men cowards. Whatever difficulties the righteous meet in the way of duty, they are not daunted.
    Verse 2
    National sins disturb the public repose.
    Verse 3
    If needy persons get opportunities of oppressing, their extortion will be more severe than that of the more wealthy.
    Verse 4
    Wicked people strengthen one another in wicked ways.

  • Light_V_Dark

    This one, then, good night.

    Revelation 21 says that COWARDS AREN’T GETTING INTO HEAVEN.

    Proverbs 28
    Verse 1
    Sin makes men cowards. Whatever difficulties the righteous meet in the way of duty, they are not daunted.
    Verse 2
    National sins disturb the public repose.
    Verse 3
    If needy persons get opportunities of oppressing, their extortion will be more severe than that of the more wealthy.
    Verse 4
    Wicked people strengthen one another in wicked ways.

  • Willi Wonka

    All jokes aside, we should be praying for them instead of condemning them. I get it. It’s not easy, but if any of you are true followers of Christ, then we have also lost our way when we throw stones like this. Don’t get me wrong, I struggle with hating them also. I am human. But what I am saying is that we must take care.

    Things are going to get much worse before they get perfect. If you are Christian, you were told to hold on in faith until the end. But it is God the Father who throws the switch and Christ who is given the keys to Heaven and Hell. We are to faithfully be Christian until all judgement is made. Oppose them we should. Hate them at your own peril. Rebuke them daily. Cast them out only as a last resort.

    • Kevin Peek

      God allowed and fostered King David’s kingdom so it could become a model and prefigurement of the kingdom of Jesus. But King David had a “prime minister” (Is 22:22) to whom he gave the keys of the kingdom….just as Jesus did to Peter. Great book on this by Protestant and Catholic biblical scholars together called “Jesus, Peter, and the keys”.

    • Kevin Peek

      I take it you were talking about Catholics,…or were you talking about the politicians?

      • Willi Wonka

        I am talking about anyone who sins but are attributed to being Satanic. I am talking about “them”.

      • Willi Wonka

        I am talking about anyone who sins but are attributed to being Satanic. I am talking about “them”.

      • Willi Wonka

        I am talking about anyone who sins but are attributed to being Satanic. I am talking about “them”.

  • Willi Wonka

    All jokes aside, we should be praying for them instead of condemning them. I get it. It’s not easy, but if any of you are true followers of Christ, then we have also lost our way when we throw stones like this. Don’t get me wrong, I struggle with hating them also. I am human. But what I am saying is that we must take care.

    Things are going to get much worse before they get perfect. If you are Christian, you were told to hold on in faith until the end. But it is God the Father who throws the switch and Christ who is given the keys to Heaven and Hell. We are to faithfully be Christian until all judgement is made. Oppose them we should. Hate them at your own peril. Rebuke them daily. Cast them out only as a last resort.

  • Willi Wonka

    All jokes aside, we should be praying for them instead of condemning them. I get it. It’s not easy, but if any of you are true followers of Christ, then we have also lost our way when we throw stones like this. Don’t get me wrong, I struggle with hating them also. I am human. But what I am saying is that we must take care.

    Things are going to get much worse before they get perfect. If you are Christian, you were told to hold on in faith until the end. But it is God the Father who throws the switch and Christ who is given the keys to Heaven and Hell. We are to faithfully be Christian until all judgement is made. Oppose them we should. Hate them at your own peril. Rebuke them daily. Cast them out only as a last resort.

  • Camden

    The true translation of that commandment is “Thou shall not murder”… Which is what abortionists are doing…
    Does it surprise anyone that the same people crying, “Save the whales” are also screaming “Kill the babies”?

  • dmr2701

    What many Catholics don’t realize is that their own priests and hierarchy of the church have compromised Christ and his gospel long ago. They teach the doctrines and teachings of men (popes and bishops) and distort the teachings of Jesus in the Bible and what Christ is really like. Christ condemns and hates many of the teachings of the Catholic church.

    It is good when a few priests stand up for what is right, no doubt, but the vast majority are working behind the scenes to promote much evil in our society. They are leaders of the amnesty movement, which undermines the laws of the land and rejects the righteous teachings of Christ about obedience to the laws of a nation.

    They support salvation through faith PLUS works (purgatory, baby baptism, acts of penance, and much more), meaning that our own works have very much to do with whether we will obtain heaven, even though Christ and the apostles condemned that teaching. “We are saved by grace, through faith…not by the works of the law.” Adding works to obtain salvation totally undermines the cross of Christ and elevates man contrary to the Bible teaching: “There is none that does good, no not one.”

    Only those born again are the “good trees” and those with “good hearts,” not the hypocrites trying to be good like all the Pharisees and Saducees. “You must be born again to enter the kingdom of God.” Then you can do good deeds.

    The main teaching of Jesus that men must be born again by the Spirit of God has been utterly forsaken by the Catholic church and totally misrepresented by the Protestant church, also.

    Then there is the promotion of idolatry, praying to saints, making others intercessors rather than Christ alone who is our high priest. Even the priest themselves take the place of Christ, absolving sin and pronouncing salvation.

    They want to be called “Father,” though Christ commanded us to call no spiritual leader “Father” as you have one father in heaven.

    They teach ritualistic worship without the Spirit of God, teach the evil doctrine of the blood and body of Christ becoming the actual blood and body of Jesus during the Eucharist, then refusing to let any soul besides themselves drink the blood of Christ. It is only the blood of Christ, the spiritual blood, that cleanses us from all sin.

    They teach men to confess sin, but not repent from sin and abhor their wicked ways. It is a mockery to God. And people go out and continue to sin, thinking it’s just fine and dandy, as long as they go back to the priest and confess. They teach hypocrisy so doing. “Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees which is hypocrisy.”

    Should any Catholic get out their Bible and begin to study it, apart from the priest’s teachings, they will see quickly how they have been misled, as many of the doctrines of the Catholic church are totally contrary to the teachings of the Bible and Christ. But their eyes are blinded by God as long as they continue in their pride, thinking their own works will save them and their service to a church.

    Protestants are in the same boat having fallen far from the true teachings of Christ. Both have resorted to fairy tales, distorted teachings and heresies, while their members continue in a lost condition heading for hell, goaded along by their priests and pastors, who profit financially and glory in their positions of prestige.

  • dmr2701

    What many Catholics don’t realize is that their own priests and hierarchy of the church have compromised Christ and his gospel long ago. They teach the doctrines and teachings of men (popes and bishops) and distort the teachings of Jesus in the Bible and what Christ is really like. Christ condemns and hates many of the teachings of the Catholic church.

    It is good when a few priests stand up for what is right, no doubt, but the vast majority are working behind the scenes to promote much evil in our society. They are leaders of the amnesty movement, which undermines the laws of the land and rejects the righteous teachings of Christ about obedience to the laws of a nation.

    They support salvation through faith PLUS works (purgatory, baby baptism, acts of penance, and much more), meaning that our own works have very much to do with whether we will obtain heaven, even though Christ and the apostles condemned that teaching. “We are saved by grace, through faith…not by the works of the law.” Adding works to obtain salvation totally undermines the cross of Christ and elevates man contrary to the Bible teaching: “There is none that does good, no not one.”

    Only those born again are the “good trees” and those with “good hearts,” not the hypocrites trying to be good like all the Pharisees and Saducees. “You must be born again to enter the kingdom of God.” Then you can do good deeds.

    The main teaching of Jesus that men must be born again by the Spirit of God has been utterly forsaken by the Catholic church and totally misrepresented by the Protestant church, also.

    Then there is the promotion of idolatry, praying to saints, making others intercessors rather than Christ alone who is our high priest. Even the priest themselves take the place of Christ, absolving sin and pronouncing salvation.

    They want to be called “Father,” though Christ commanded us to call no spiritual leader “Father” as you have one father in heaven.

    They teach ritualistic worship without the Spirit of God, teach the evil doctrine of the blood and body of Christ becoming the actual blood and body of Jesus during the Eucharist, then refusing to let any soul besides themselves drink the blood of Christ. It is only the blood of Christ, the spiritual blood, that cleanses us from all sin.

    They teach men to confess sin, but not repent from sin and abhor their wicked ways. It is a mockery to God. And people go out and continue to sin, thinking it’s just fine and dandy, as long as they go back to the priest and confess. They teach hypocrisy so doing. “Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees which is hypocrisy.”

    Should any Catholic get out their Bible and begin to study it, apart from the priest’s teachings, they will see quickly how they have been misled, as many of the doctrines of the Catholic church are totally contrary to the teachings of the Bible and Christ. But their eyes are blinded by God as long as they continue in their pride, thinking their own works will save them and their service to a church.

    Protestants are in the same boat having fallen far from the true teachings of Christ. Both have resorted to fairy tales, distorted teachings and heresies, while their members continue in a lost condition heading for hell, goaded along by their priests and pastors, who profit financially and glory in their positions of prestige.

    • Willi Wonka

      I have long held those same beliefs, but it has become apparent that even Catholics are human. And though the Church defiles the Gospel, it is not Catholicism that is to blame. Such is the case when the Progressive blames all of Christianity for the defilement of the few. It is the men who defile the Catholic Church.

      I am non-denominational. I do not identify with any “ism”. I am a Christian. Christianity is not an “ism”. It is an “anity” or state of being or entirety.

      The Catholic Church went astray sometime in the 1960′s. Any decent Priest can tell you more about that.

      • Shofar threading

        I respond to you, Willi, because I believe in much of what you say, contrary to “dmr2701″ who has an edge in all that he/she writes.

        Although I was of a denomination for decades, I find they all think ‘they’ have all the answers and the way, and when they “play that card”, I wonder how much IN CHRIST they really are. Where is the love of Christ of which they speak?

        I belong to a small home prayer group (for years) and we “belong” to many different denominations (and some just attend) but pray to the one Father, the same Abba. Not structured, just verbal, heart spoken prayers. I believe we have leaned much from each other because our center is Christ, not theology.

        My difficulty (to say the least) with Pelosi is hypocrisy. She and others in DC (we’re talking about that here) blare that they are Catholics but so blatantly defy the regulations (laws, if you wish) of the church they espouse. Biden is another in this category.

        I am a born-again Christian and as such believe myself to be a “grafted Jew”. That is the associatiion I am most comfortable and true as defiing myself.

        There may very well be many denominations (and theologies) but there is only one church of which Christ is the head. I think that’s the way our Lord would like us to be.

      • Shofar threading

        I respond to you, Willi, because I believe in much of what you say, contrary to “dmr2701″ who has an edge in all that he/she writes.

        Although I was of a denomination for decades, I find they all think ‘they’ have all the answers and the way, and when they “play that card”, I wonder how much IN CHRIST they really are. Where is the love of Christ of which they speak?

        I belong to a small home prayer group (for years) and we “belong” to many different denominations (and some just attend) but pray to the one Father, the same Abba. Not structured, just verbal, heart spoken prayers. I believe we have leaned much from each other because our center is Christ, not theology.

        My difficulty (to say the least) with Pelosi is hypocrisy. She and others in DC (we’re talking about that here) blare that they are Catholics but so blatantly defy the regulations (laws, if you wish) of the church they espouse. Biden is another in this category.

        I am a born-again Christian and as such believe myself to be a “grafted Jew”. That is the associatiion I am most comfortable and true as defiing myself.

        There may very well be many denominations (and theologies) but there is only one church of which Christ is the head. I think that’s the way our Lord would like us to be.

      • Shofar threading

        I respond to you, Willi, because I believe in much of what you say, contrary to “dmr2701″ who has an edge in all that he/she writes.

        Although I was of a denomination for decades, I find they all think ‘they’ have all the answers and the way, and when they “play that card”, I wonder how much IN CHRIST they really are. Where is the love of Christ of which they speak?

        I belong to a small home prayer group (for years) and we “belong” to many different denominations (and some just attend) but pray to the one Father, the same Abba. Not structured, just verbal, heart spoken prayers. I believe we have leaned much from each other because our center is Christ, not theology.

        My difficulty (to say the least) with Pelosi is hypocrisy. She and others in DC (we’re talking about that here) blare that they are Catholics but so blatantly defy the regulations (laws, if you wish) of the church they espouse. Biden is another in this category.

        I am a born-again Christian and as such believe myself to be a “grafted Jew”. That is the associatiion I am most comfortable and true as defiing myself.

        There may very well be many denominations (and theologies) but there is only one church of which Christ is the head. I think that’s the way our Lord would like us to be.

    • Willi Wonka

      I have long held those same beliefs, but it has become apparent that even Catholics are human. And though the Church defiles the Gospel, it is not Catholicism that is to blame. Such is the case when the Progressive blames all of Christianity for the defilement of the few. It is the men who defile the Catholic Church.

      I am non-denominational. I do not identify with any “ism”. I am a Christian. Christianity is not an “ism”. It is an “anity” or state of being or entirety.

      The Catholic Church went astray sometime in the 1960′s. Any decent Priest can tell you more about that.

  • dmr2701

    What many Catholics don’t realize is that their own priests and hierarchy of the church have compromised Christ and his gospel long ago. They teach the doctrines and teachings of men (popes and bishops) and distort the teachings of Jesus in the Bible and what Christ is really like. Christ condemns and hates many of the teachings of the Catholic church.

    It is good when a few priests stand up for what is right, no doubt, but the vast majority are working behind the scenes to promote much evil in our society. They are leaders of the amnesty movement, which undermines the laws of the land and rejects the righteous teachings of Christ about obedience to the laws of a nation.

    They support salvation through faith PLUS works (purgatory, baby baptism, acts of penance, and much more), meaning that our own works have very much to do with whether we will obtain heaven, even though Christ and the apostles condemned that teaching. “We are saved by grace, through faith…not by the works of the law.” Adding works to obtain salvation totally undermines the cross of Christ and elevates man contrary to the Bible teaching: “There is none that does good, no not one.”

    Only those born again are the “good trees” and those with “good hearts,” not the hypocrites trying to be good like all the Pharisees and Saducees. “You must be born again to enter the kingdom of God.” Then you can do good deeds.

    The main teaching of Jesus that men must be born again by the Spirit of God has been utterly forsaken by the Catholic church and totally misrepresented by the Protestant church, also.

    Then there is the promotion of idolatry, praying to saints, making others intercessors rather than Christ alone who is our high priest. Even the priest themselves take the place of Christ, absolving sin and pronouncing salvation.

    They want to be called “Father,” though Christ commanded us to call no spiritual leader “Father” as you have one father in heaven.

    They teach ritualistic worship without the Spirit of God, teach the evil doctrine of the blood and body of Christ becoming the actual blood and body of Jesus during the Eucharist, then refusing to let any soul besides themselves drink the blood of Christ. It is only the blood of Christ, the spiritual blood, that cleanses us from all sin.

    They teach men to confess sin, but not repent from sin and abhor their wicked ways. It is a mockery to God. And people go out and continue to sin, thinking it’s just fine and dandy, as long as they go back to the priest and confess. They teach hypocrisy so doing. “Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees which is hypocrisy.”

    Should any Catholic get out their Bible and begin to study it, apart from the priest’s teachings, they will see quickly how they have been misled, as many of the doctrines of the Catholic church are totally contrary to the teachings of the Bible and Christ. But their eyes are blinded by God as long as they continue in their pride, thinking their own works will save them and their service to a church.

    Protestants are in the same boat having fallen far from the true teachings of Christ. Both have resorted to fairy tales, distorted teachings and heresies, while their members continue in a lost condition heading for hell, goaded along by their priests and pastors, who profit financially and glory in their positions of prestige.

  • G.Frazier

    Requiring a Democrat to repent is like asking a snake not to eat a mouse!
    Just like the majority of the American women, since the ERA/NOW began training them to take over, the democrats (Nancy Pelosi, as well as the rest of them) will only change, when they think they can force even more change from the Right Wing.
    It’s like a former teacher, whom I asked why the women appear to demand that every little problem, in their household is always the fault of the husband….Her reply? “Did you not get the memo? It’s always his fault?”

    So, when Congress resumes, the Democrats will begin with the mindset of how to change things FOR THEM…While the Republicans will begin with how to change things for America.

    The sum of those two thoughts are always going to lead to the Republicans making changes, while the Democrats ordering/demanding the Republicans change even more!

    John Kerry was excommunicated, by the Catholic Church because of his continued stand supporting abortion. Why, then, is Pelosi still allowed to take communion, there?
    Or, is it she’s another of those, Catholic in name only, who were sprinkled as babies but barely wave as they pass by the church on Sunday morning or Saturday, after Mass?
    At any rate, she’s about as Catholic as I am and I’ve always been a protestant!

  • Jack_Reacher

    Why would anyone be shocked that a low-life, low-information liberal democrat would violate the Church teachings any time it is convenient.

    By the way, the picture of Pelosi was way too flattering. Next time just take a shot of some rotted roadkill.

  • VirgoVince

    THAT is how she really looks without make-up and botox!!

  • VirgoVince

    THAT is how she really looks without make-up and botox!!

  • VirgoVince

    THAT is how she really looks without make-up and botox!!

  • yaki534

    Most liberals mock Christianity and I can not see how any genuine Christian can vot for a democrat.

    • askfortheoldpaths

      You are correct. Righteous people cannot honor the vile.

      In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honors them that fear the LORD … (Psa 15:4)

      The God of Israel said, the Rock of Israel spake to me, He that rules over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God. (2Sa 23:3)

    • askfortheoldpaths

      You are correct. Righteous people cannot honor the vile.

      In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honors them that fear the LORD … (Psa 15:4)

      The God of Israel said, the Rock of Israel spake to me, He that rules over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God. (2Sa 23:3)

  • yaki534

    Most liberals mock Christianity and I can not see how any genuine Christian can vot for a democrat.

  • yaki534

    Most liberals mock Christianity and I can not see how any genuine Christian can vot for a democrat.

  • Anthony Alexander

    Join a satanic church?!! She doesn’t need to. She has already has been won by the Devil, dark side, enemy or whatever tag we put to it. But know this…..this women is certainly under the influence of forces that lean away from Christine principle, That’s for sure….Principles that were the foundation by which the founding fathers created the constitution, a document that is constantly trying to be re-written and spin doctored by liberals like her.

  • Anthony Alexander

    Join a satanic church?!! She doesn’t need to. She has already has been won by the Devil, dark side, enemy or whatever tag we put to it. But know this…..this women is certainly under the influence of forces that lean away from Christine principle, That’s for sure….Principles that were the foundation by which the founding fathers created the constitution, a document that is constantly trying to be re-written and spin doctored by liberals like her.

  • David Snyder

    I doubt if any self respecting Satanist would want that bimbo in their cult.When Nancy dies & gets sentenced to Hell,Satan will scream”NO!NO!”

  • David Snyder

    I doubt if any self respecting Satanist would want that bimbo in their cult.When Nancy dies & gets sentenced to Hell,Satan will scream”NO!NO!”

  • David Snyder

    I doubt if any self respecting Satanist would want that bimbo in their cult.When Nancy dies & gets sentenced to Hell,Satan will scream”NO!NO!”

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