• John Beam

    I have never thought of “Obamacare” in the terms presented above, but when you consider how the government will make all of our “medical” decisions for us, and will say where and how medical resources will be used, they very well could center all of it in the urban areas (where their leftist base is centered), and allow the rest of us to die, or just determine that opposition to collectivism is a “sickness,” and just come after us.

    I do think that we need to get the word out that Obama’s idea of government is not very different from Hitler’s. Every pore of Hitler’s body oozed collectivism and government “providing for the people” everything that they felt would make them secure. Hitler’s popularism is no different from Obama’s. Everyone who loves Obama will say they do so because they’re “getting” something out of it, and Obama is the one “giving” it to them. It’s all an illusion and a dilution, and we all know that it did not end well for Germany. The fact is, collectivism never does end well for anyone.

    • garysvent

      Someone called Obamacare a Trojan Horse. I think it is a Trojan Hearse.

  • mudguy

    Why don’t the GOP get more people to talk about how it was when they lived in countrys that had socialized medical care.

    • Traveller62

      @mudguy: Because it’s not politically correct to lay the truth on the line to people who “don’t WANT to hear it.” Alot of elderly people here in the U.S. don’t want to hear bad news, bc they think that if they don’t hear it, it’s not happening. That’s the elderly mentality, and also the PC mentality as well.

    • Traveller62

      @mudguy: Because it’s not politically correct to lay the truth on the line to people who “don’t WANT to hear it.” Alot of elderly people here in the U.S. don’t want to hear bad news, bc they think that if they don’t hear it, it’s not happening. That’s the elderly mentality, and also the PC mentality as well.

      • Glenn

        It’s the same mentality that the Jews had while the Nazis were shoving them into the gas chambers. “Ignore evil and it will just go away”. It just doesn’t work. Ignoring evil only empowers it. It’s better to accept that evil intentions are very common. You need confront them and never ever compromise with them. Parasites, like socialists, never stop. They just keep trying to destroy anything that they can’t completely control.

        • Traveller62

          @Glenn: Back in the 50′s, I was a fat, ugly child. As a result of being fat and ugly, I was bullied ALOT. I went to my mother for some advice on how to handle it, and she said, “Oh, just ignore it and it will go away.” Typical 50′s mentality, for which NOW it will NOT go away. Ignore something such as bullying and it only gets worse, as you said, “Ignoring evil empowers evil.” I didn’t get over it till I started working at age 26, for a good company.

          • Dominic De Falco

            You never get over it, you just learn to deal with it and file it away in the memory cabinet of the brain!

          • Traveller62

            Thank You.

          • oldgoatee

            I was a fat, dorky kid in the ’60′s…hmm

          • Dominic De Falco

            You never get over it, you just learn to deal with it and file it away in the memory cabinet of the brain!

        • Traveller62

          @Glenn: Back in the 50′s, I was a fat, ugly child. As a result of being fat and ugly, I was bullied ALOT. I went to my mother for some advice on how to handle it, and she said, “Oh, just ignore it and it will go away.” Typical 50′s mentality, for which NOW it will NOT go away. Ignore something such as bullying and it only gets worse, as you said, “Ignoring evil empowers evil.” I didn’t get over it till I started working at age 26, for a good company.

        • frawgeyz

          What an awful thing to say. You think that those entering gas chambers had no emotional input? Dear God above.

        • frawgeyz

          What an awful thing to say. You think that those entering gas chambers had no emotional input? Dear God above.

          • Fred_K

            They were lied to, and did not know (or did not admit to themselves) that they were going to a gas chamber. They were starved to the point of losing brain function, and herded like cattle. Just like the cow going to slaughter, they did not know the peril that awaited them.

      • Glenn

        It’s the same mentality that the Jews had while the Nazis were shoving them into the gas chambers. “Ignore evil and it will just go away”. It just doesn’t work. Ignoring evil only empowers it. It’s better to accept that evil intentions are very common. You need confront them and never ever compromise with them. Parasites, like socialists, never stop. They just keep trying to destroy anything that they can’t completely control.

      • Glenn

        It’s the same mentality that the Jews had while the Nazis were shoving them into the gas chambers. “Ignore evil and it will just go away”. It just doesn’t work. Ignoring evil only empowers it. It’s better to accept that evil intentions are very common. You need confront them and never ever compromise with them. Parasites, like socialists, never stop. They just keep trying to destroy anything that they can’t completely control.

      • ca1

        i’ve met some of those people in my family:(

        • rs1123

          Me too. You have to stay away from politics or else family occasions get ruined by people who can’t understand that the economy really is NOT good, or many other things.

      • ca1

        i’ve met some of those people in my family:(

      • Dominic De Falco

        Seems to be most people’s and groups mentality now a days!

        • Traveller62

          It’s the uneducated ones, the elderly, and the low-information people that don’t WANT to take a stand for what is real. The uneducated just want to do their “thing” and be left alone with their Obama phones, the elderly have the mentality of “if I don’t hear it, it isn’t happening”, and the low-information people who voted Obama in that take the attitude of “why buy the cow when the milk is free”, not realizing that their “why buy the cow” theory is making them more beholden to the government. Like I tell everyone, “A government large enough to give you everything you want is large enough to take it ALL away in the same instant.” Like I also say to people, “Thanks alot LBJ, for your programs that later on down the line has almost completely destroyed our great nation.”

          • Dick

            Don’t blame the “elderly” for this. The elderly are the ones who got a real education, who have the attitude of working for what you get and succeeding through your own efforts. They are the ones who fought for this country in WWII, Korea and Nam. They are the ones who saved for their futures. They are the ones NOT dependent on the government. The elderly are not the ones who put this sham into the White House. Blame this on the lazy, the present generation who feels that they deserve everything handed to them on a silver platter.

      • frawgeyz

        So myopic of you. When odongo said he was going to redistribute the wealth we the elderly knew what he meant. It was all the young and the college zombies who pot this imposter in office traveler. Those who have no ability to think critically, individually or hold a dialogue.

      • garysvent

        It’s called magical thinking, and it’s not just relegated to the elderly.

        What do you do when your only options are equally awful? I have a choice between being snuffed by a regime that doesn’t want to spend any health care dollars on conservatives or christians, (non-Democrat voters) and being in the vanguard of a group of citizens intent on revolt against the DC dictators. Both will likely end in my death, one by neglect, one by violence tagged as ‘defense’ in order to implicate me in my own destruction.

        It’s like a donkey starving to death between two bales of hay because he can’t make up his mind which to eat from.

    • undunder

      Because many in the GOP are part of the problem. They don’t wish to solve the problem or represent their constituents – much like liberals – they are self-serving. They talk a good talk but their walk is pathetic at best.

      Capitalism is the best system. Is it perfect? No. No system is. I’m OK if some folks with innovative ideas get richer than me so long as my plate if full – as it generally is in America. Capitalism will fail, not because of inherent failures, but because of government regulation. The government will regulate capitalism out of existence and legislate in its place a system of socialism and eventually Communism. That’s what the ruling elite need – centralized power. And socialized medicine is necessary as is the socialization of the food supply. Look at what MO is trying to do – make our food choices for us. The ruling elite eventually believe their own propaganda – that they are smarter and more important that the masses. And then comes the inbreeding…

  • jzandensky

    This artical ought to torque the advocates off. Enormous power in the hands of government is risky… and stupid. How is some bureaucrat is washington supposed to know where it hurts, how much.. Or even care? At the end of the day, you, are just a number and his job, just a job… “What time is it? Is it time to go home, yet?”

    • mudguy

      And Obummer has the nerve to say that Obummercare is not causing job losses.

  • EllenBernal

    Muslims love Hitler and they still promoting his book “Mein Kampf”. Obama is very well aware of what the healthcare system will do to Americans. His system is a combination of NAZI, Fascism and Communism with the emphasis on Islam. Just take a moment an think about it. I am German and I am seeing the end of the Road and it’s not nice. Impeachment would be a good solution.

    • polmutant

      even more direct, islam/Nazi/social,commun isms are the programs of the antichrist. they are satanic in thought,origin, practice.

      • IrishEddieOHara

        You forgot Capitalism.

        • polmutant

          no. capitalism is about individual responsibility, ie if you do not work you do not eat. capitalism does not make it my responsibility to feed the illegal, to feed the lazy welfare, to provide life services to those that choose foolish actions and earned a disease as their reward, AND because I am not forced to feed/support what I do not believe in, CAPITALISM allows me to support that which I do believe in, rather than being diminished by those that believe only in their own selfish/foolishness. the world owes no one nothing.

          • IrishEddieOHara

            Capitalism is the same as Socialism and Communism, except in Capitalism, they enslave the workers to a life of debt rather than shoot them.

            In all the above systems, the goods, services, and products are owned by a very small elite of uber rich who make all the rules and claim that they are doing for “the good of the people.” Capitalism is not a free market system because the system is rigged and controlled so that men do not own their own businesses, but are in debt to the banks forever.

            Of course, in Socialism and Communism, rather than the gangsters in the banks and Wall Street owning us and making up all the rules to keep us under their thumb, the government is used to keep people in line and as slaves to a system that will never allow for free enterprise.

            You need to learn a third way which encourages personal responsibility, private ownership of goods and land to produce income, and limited government:

            http://distributistreview.com/mag/

            And as for feeding the feeding the illegal — you perhaps should better read the Bible in that regard.

          • polmutant

            you are confused, true capitalism has no regulation, true capitalism has no legislation, once there is any tax or restriction it is no longer capitalism. and because capitalism is free market without any legislation/regulation it s win win. there is no country in the world today that is capitalistic, once the theory of good for the people is used it means capitalism has been replaced with a form of Marxism.

          • tr60

            Capitalism, taken to its logical conclusion, will use slavery. Pure capitalism is greed run amok. Total Socialism takes the initiative out of life. A civilized society needs to strike a balance between protecting (the real function of government) people from calamity and encouraging the most out of people.

            Socialism is NOT a dirty word, quite trying to make it one.

          • garysvent

            It has become as dirty a word as communism, because it means the government owns the means of production, which means it becomes a Ponzi scheme to enrich government.

            Do you want to be told where to work, what to work at, and how much you can earn? This is both the goal and the outcome of applied socialism. Verily, it stinketh. It is an outgrowth of the fevered brow of Karl Marx, and should be shunned like the plague by a people interested in their own and their neighbor’s liberty.

            It cannot be cleansed.

          • tr60

            Gee, you found all that in there?

            There are many things that we do like form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare… you know, stuff like that. That’s all part of socialism. Now how far we want to take things is another matter. Just beware of people giving things a “dirty”name so that they can misdirect us from things we need to be doing – together.

          • garysvent

            What gives you the right to tell me what I need to do together with anyone?

          • tr60

            I realize you wouldn’t recognize it but I was including a quote from the constitution in my statement.

          • snowmaggedoned

            You wrote to garysvent:

            “form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare”

            Yes…..we all realized where you took your quote. BTW…it is the Constitution, not the constitution.

            Notice it says to “insure domestic tranquility”.

            How to accomplish this task? How about leaving Americans alone and quit abusing us with over-taxation and insurance mandates that are not in the Constitution?

            It also says to “provide for the common defense”. This is the only specific mandate for the federal government in the Constitution….to protect our country from invasion.

            The “promote the general welfare” part is what you stupidly believe advocates “socialism”. Promote does not mean provide through tax impositions to steal from the wallet of one person to give to another who doesn’t work and wants to live off the government dole.

            You are the one who doesn’t understand the US Constitution at all.

            But, I have no doubt it is because you have been preached this warped ideology from public schools. Yes…..the same public schools that no longer teach Civics to graduate from High School before the Department of Education was created in the late 1970′s.

            I feel very sorry for you….the brainwashing has ruined your ability to go to primary source materials and seek out truth.

          • tr60

            I learned it a public school that had my grandfather’s name on brass plaque on the grade school and my great-grandfather’s name chiseled in the corner stone of the high school. I grew up on a farm that was started by my immigrant Irish great-great grandfather. All three of them also served as the township supervisor and at various times the Chairman of the Board of Supervisors. My father abhorred politics. When he died 600 people lined up in freezing October rain to attend his wake. They are all buried within yards of each other in the local Catholic cemetary.

            They took their social responsibilities to the community seriously and the neighbors and friends recognized it.

            I was raised among people who were deeply scarred by The Depression and it was only New Deal programs that saved them from being wiped out. They were eternally grateful to FDR

            My grandmother’s immigrant father was recognized as the leader of his Swedish Lutheran community. But, he was wiped out. That side of the family tried to keep it hidden that he had lost the land that he owned. He continued to tenant farm into his 70′s when he retired from farming – but kept working into his 80′s and at age 85 was honored for being the top salesman for Pike Hybrid Seed Corn.

            It may sound noble that a man would still be working at such an advanced age, but he had to! Being the self-reliant, hard-working, independent man that he was, he, and my grandmother, did not take Social Security.

            As for insurance mandates, it’s an old idea and we’ve done it since 1798: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Act_for_the_relief_of_sick_and_disabled_seamen

          • snowmaggedoned
          • Oldmonkey

            Don’t give me the FDR crap. My godfather was born 1900, and my father 1912. My father didn’t like the POS, and his father died when he was 3. His second bill of rights closely followed parts of the USSR Constitution, with except it actually required citizens to work. When they went broke things went bad for retirees, who saw their Healthcare cut back to help their bottom line, saving even more when they died.

            There never has been any federal requirement to buy insurance for NOT doing something. This isn’t like liability insurance engaging in an activity to compensate 3rd parties, or requirement of a bond, or proof of net worth.

          • guestimate

            I like it when WORKERS (not investors, banks or share-holders) own their own enterprise and it would be NICE if some of that could trickle down to the community at large. Pray-tell, what name would such a system go by?

          • snowmaggedoned

            Small business owners…..you know….Main Street not Wall Street.

          • Oldmonkey

            To the extent it is forced fraternity like Communism it a monster. Law is supposed to be organized liberty preventing injustice. It isn’t candle makers and allied trades buying politicians to ban light bulbs and the sun.

            Politicians have no right to stick their fat obtuse nose in any family, their racial composition, or gender. They have no right to ban prostitution, drug use, or firearms; only reasonable regulation and taxation for proved pubic health. Russia has unreasonable gun laws, with only one in ten having a firearm. Even with a firearm for every citizen in the US, the number of deaths in Russia from firearms is twice as high.

          • guestimate

            Ahh, there’s your word “reasonable” that’s the rub. How do you get everyone to agree what is “reasonable?”

          • Oldmonkey

            The same statistics on quality control Japan used to kick our tail in quality control would work for prostitution and firearms. They could be used for the very same reason those who need a keeper for the safety of themselves and society. Prohibition was repealed promptly getting rid of gangsters, and similar efforts would work with drugs.

          • polmutant

            you are quite wrong in this philosophy, socialism makes everyone a slave to regulation. capitalism is allowance to use all God given ability with restriction. many people are good for nothing more than slavery. there are dead beats everywhere. a civilized society is a social view it is regulated for the “good” of the whole and decries individual responsibility, it is corrupt as it deems each member as valuable as the next and this is not reality.
            socialism is a term derived from marxizm = al these derivities are from satan himself, it claims that man is a responsibility to the human condition and that by imposed regulation that destroys freedom is the corrective to the human condition, what it fails to ascertain is that those regulating are the same as those regulated except by different rules, as any exception is in form capitalism, socialism is a lie and deception.

          • Benjamin Fox

            The IRS is a illegal institution and shouldn’t exist as taxes were to be a free gift to the government and not mandated.

          • guestimate

            There’s no such thing as a free market, they all devolve to protectionist rackets that suppress competition and pay off judges & politicians or have legislation written that favors themselves. (As an example, for years the DOE programs funded the fossil-fuel industry almost exclusively.) It’s a wonderful theory, though. Also, Capitalism has always had a secret love affair with slavery because, well, it works! One MBA said in a business mag: “From a cost perspective, taking what doesn’t belong to you is the cheapest way to go.” (Insert whatever commodity into the blank.) You suggest by omission that all capitalists are HONEST; (they will tell you they’re all saints.) Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged was a good example, but what she failed to tell you was the original John Galt was born over a hundred years ago and the free energy he (Nikola Tesla) tried to give the world was suppressed (and still is to this day) by the same “men of commerce” you would lionize.

          • polmutant

            I agree, but there is a free market, it is the black or off the book market, and there will always be one. this is why “civilized” or socialized groupings are never truly capitalistic, they may exhibit capitalistic evidences but ultimately are not. free is free. example; I give you a “free” car, but then say you can drive it only on Mondays, suddenly it is no longer free, it is encumbered. even though there was no payment for the car.

          • tr60

            Nothing is ever that simple, except the people that believe it.

          • polmutant

            it is as simple as breathing. only there are those that cannot breath if they chose to be free. chose to be responsible. there fore they choose to be “complicated” by sharing their choice of slavery to everyone else. this is Marxism or socialism or whatever mankind ism huddled together to attempt collective salvation, or more accurately collective suicide.

          • Johnny Geetar

            Eddie, try changing the batteries in your propeller hat, hoss. LOOK AROUND YOU! Does this country and it’s citizens look better now, under this distributive system?
            Of COURSE men own things. SO WHAT? We had job security, a living wage, bills were paid, folks had disposable income, blah, blah. The ONLY thing that matters are CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND. That’s IT! Everything else is just BS.
            Capitalism WORKED! Main street was alive and thriving! Under this fascist system, wages are being driven down, Main street is full of empty storefronts, food and fuel prices are shooting through the roof, the stock market is basically off limits to the little guy, no interest is being payed on savings to accomodate govt debt, govt. dependence is exploding, in a phrase, EVERYTHING SUCKS!
            Have you looked in an animal shelter lately? They are overflowing with animals that no one will adopt. Why? Because folks cannot afford to feed and care for them! Wanna know the TRUE financial health of a given society? Look in their animal shelters.
            Capitalism CREATED the middle class,pal. Capitalism SUSTAINED the middle class. Do you have any children, eddie? I doubt it. Because if you did, you would understand the absolute DREAD we are feeling about the country we are turning over to them, and the govt. enslavement we are birthing them into….

          • Johnny Geetar

            Further, i’m with polmutant here….. You can twist the bible any way you want; it is NOT OUR JOB to carry others that REFUSE to carry themselves, and the children they create.
            Note I didn’t say CAN’T, I said REFUSES…….
            If they were moral people, WORTHY of christian consideration, they would not WILLINGLYcast a burden like this on their brothers. They are clearly taking advantage, courtesy of their benefactor in the White House. Sorry; there is NO absolution to be found for them while riding on the backs of their brothers. My job is to see to my OWN family, and to HELP those that WE CHOOSE, at our discretion, not to provide him that which he will not seek OR effort for himself. Conclusion; Redistributionist politics, INCLUDING healthcare, sucks goat balls……

          • Katie510

            Johnny it is not for you to judge. You must do the right thing and if that means to help someone in need regardless of whether they will carry themselves or not, you just do it. God will be the judge and God knows your heart. Evil is running rampant, it will only take prayer to God Almighty and a refocus on him to save us. This world is worshipping idols and money is an idol and root of all evil. All you have to do is read the First Commandment and the other 9 to see people are breaking the Commandments at every turn…We cannot fix this without God. Just look around we live in an upside down world, everything wrong is right and everything right is wrong. We’ve pushed God out of everything. We need to bring him back to the center of our universe, beg his forgiveness and repent for turning away from him.

          • oldgoatee

            The key is to do the right thing because God orders it and you cheerfully do it. Nowhere has Obama, Hitler, Bismarck or for that matter RONN PAAULL been elevated to divinity… Coercion is evil!

          • guestimate

            America has always believed in coercion!

          • beingstill

            …Yep, as the sin of witchcraft!

          • Johnny Geetar

            With all due respect katie, you are being taken advantage of and your faith is being used against you. That’s what socialists DO. Progressives, as a tenet of their beliefs, and OPENLY STATED in their Saul Alinsky bible , is to infiltrate churches and begin twisting the words and faith to minimize resistance to their agenda. Why do you think Lutherans and Episcopalians now accept gay bishops? Forgive me, but a man that would WILLINGLY AND OPENLY sodomize another HAS NO BUSINESS offering me OR my family moral guidance. And yet, the sheeple of the faith now not only ACCEPT it, but they endorse it as well. This is a by-product of “Judge not, lest YE be Judged.” It has been thrown in your face and used to get you to aquiesce to their twisted world view.
            Look at conservative Mormons! They are the best, most efficient preppers on the planet! The devout ones believe in keeping 1 to 2 years of supplies to mitigate emergences. Would you now chide them for NOT relying absolutely on God to put food on their tables, or would you call them pragmatic? Sorry sister; i’m with the Mormons on this one….. Again, God does not expect you to sit on your keester and wait for everyone ELSE to do your bidding FOR you. The world doesn’t work like that, and you know it….
            They take a tenet of your faith,and throw it in your face to hamstring you while they walk all over you and twist doctrine. Sorry, but the Lord helps those that helps themselves, and i’m tried of food being taken off MY table to feed anothers that would rather sit around all day while I carry his burden.
            Quit being so naive…. You’re being USED. And so is your strict adherence to the word. The answer is NOT to lay down and play dead here,and hope that these parasites ONE DAY come back to their senses. You will NOT convince avowed socialists, OR their followers who live on free stuff, provided by us, to see the error of their ways. If YOU choose to invest your time in this losing strategy, it is your time to waste…. I’ll not be party to it while my country is going down the tubes before my eyes…….

          • Katie510

            You just made my case. You judge everyone. God gave the people free will. Everyone will be judged accordingly. Evil is running rampant. You have the free will to choose but you don’t have the right to judge. Hate the sin, pray for the sinner. Jesus said to love your enemy. Pray for them and you will be rewarded. You don’t have to agree with them, just know they are lost and pray for them to be found. You are supposed to be a fisher of men. I don’t chide anyone. I believe God will provide according to your works, end of story. Being prepared is not a bad thing, it’s a common sense thing.

          • Johnny Geetar

            Your case has NOT been made, sorry to inform you. Everybody judges, including you! To take your premise at face value, you’re not allowed to judge your child’s school performance, or which item is cheaper at the grocery store, to judge when the lawn needs mowing,or judge when your tires need air, judge a quality of meat before you put it on your table. Further, you just stated that evil is running rampant. Your words…..How did you just come to that conclusion? You JUDGED it to be so…… Your premise of “No judging allowed” is bordering on the foolish. And frankly, smacks of a complete cop-out. I’m beginning to sense that you hide behind tenets because you are afraid to act and confront. Leave ALL the heavy lifting to Jesus and a higher power in lieu of any effort on YOUR part. Was THIS the example of Jesus when he angrily confronted the tax collectors and loansharks in the temple? Passionate anger is a GIFT. It DRIVES the righteous to get things done. And without the ability to judge, no man can possibly even make a determination as to WHAT WRONG IS! Ducking out on rendering judgement on what is RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU is the reason we as a movement are being eaten ALIVE right now…….
            Trust me, if I sat around all day praying for a clean house, guess what i would see when i opened my eyes? A DIRTY HOUSE! Prayer WILL NOT cure laziness or produce results when no effort is expended. That is not a matter of faith; that is a matter of reality! Prayer has it’s place, but to hide behind it when God GAVE you the tools to aid your own condition is cowardice. Am I judging right now? You better believe it…..

          • Katie510

            You are too stubborn. It’s Free Will. God gives us gifts, we should use them for the greater good. It’s not judging to use your head. It’s called common sense. Of course your lawn won’t cut itself, you know you have to cut it, you know your house needs cleaning and God you the ability to do that. Evil is running rampant and it is effecting common sense in many who are not believers. All you have to do is look around the world. They need prayer to come to Christ. You are nobody’s judge and jury. And sir with all due respect, I don’t want to argue with you anymore. You go on and do what you must and so will I.

          • Johnny Geetar

            Hey, don’t go off in a huff……You are the one that came on here and began brow beating ME about judging people and refusing to help scumbags,remember?
            I’m no one’s judge and jury? HA! Tell that to the first ballbag that gets caught breaking into my house. Think i’m not gonna judge him and his intentions? AND render a verdict to neutralize him? Think again! I’ll answer to the boss later. Call it a character flaw……

          • beingstill

            Oh, Johnny… you know she isn’t “judging” you, right?!? That would make her a hypocrite!

          • beingstill

            Oh, Katie… you poor, poor child! Exactly how is it “free will” that will let me CHOOSE to pay taxes into a system that’s FORCING me to pay into it!? So, are you completely stupid, or just partially!? And, yeah, let me be the first to admit it… I’m “judging” you… because you’re thinking like a moron!

          • Benjamin Fox

            Judging in Matthew has to do with salvation, not common sense and have taught Bible for over 20 years and get tired of those who say we can’t judge as many verse’s prove that to be wrong, why do you insist taking one verse out of context, read it in the greek and learn.

          • Katie510

            You too must then take the log out of your eye. I take nothing out of context. You too will be judged one day by Almighty God as we all will. You are a sinner like the rest of us, we are all sinners.

          • beingstill

            You take nothing out of context, and you’re ALWAYS right! WOW! I’d like to change my JUDGMENT that you have a whole forest of lumber in your eyes: you have 99% of the Earth’s lumber supply in your eyes. No wonder you’re stumbling all over the place; it must be so difficult to walk!

          • garysvent

            ” but you don’t have the right to judge”

            Not true. A man unable to judge the character of others will not know, for instance, how to keep from being unequally yoked, or how to stay away from certain types of people lethal to goodness. What do you think Jesus meant when He said, “By their deeds shall ye know them”?

            It is not within us to judge a person’s heart; but his deeds are there for all to see, and can be judged accordingly. Else, why a Ten Commandments, with which we can judge our own evil, and therefore know our need for Christ.

            A human without the capacity to judge is just another animal.

          • Katie510

            Then you must take the “log” out of your own eye. We are all sinners and must not judge or expect to be judged. End of story. Keep your nose clean is a good motto.

          • Johnny Geetar

            End of story. I love it when leftists run out of verbal ammunition. They just try to end the dialogue……

          • Katie510

            Leftist?? LOL … Clearly you don’t know left from right. You truly don’t know what you are talking about. And if you are a conservative you are just like them loaded with verbal ammunition. Shame on you…Just go on and live your simple little judgmental life. I’ll pray for you, that’s what a good Christian does.

          • beingstill

            Um, so who’s judging here, Katie? HYPOCRITE! And, yeah, you are a Leftist! You’re as much of a conservative as John Boehner or Mitch McConnell! Hell, they’re just Obama with an (R) beside their name for all intents and purposes!

          • beingstill

            True, we must ALL take the logs out of our own eyes so that we can judge accurately. However, in your case, you have an entire FOREST of lumber in YOUR eyes!

          • Katie510

            You are one rude human being. No wonder the world is in the shape it’s in….There are laws on earth we have to abide by like paying taxes so your case is totally ludicrous. You are wasting my time. I have more important things to do. BTW: I don’t drink Kool-Aid either. I’m a realist and realize I am in no position to judge anyone. I make my choices for me and don’t judge anyone else. We are individuals.

          • Johnny Geetar

            Bravo,Gary! Written more eloquently than I could ever put it…..

          • mattigr

            I pray every day they get the hell out of my life! Feed a Man a fish and he’ll eat for a day … TEACH a Man to fish and he’ll eat for a life time!

          • beingstill

            And, Katie, you’ve just proven Johnny’s (and my) case! You’ve been drinking too much of the Kool-Aid that this modern-day Jim Jones has been giving you to drink! Stop drinking and start using your “powers” for the GOOD side, instead of the side of evil… masked as “good.”

          • Croco Dile

            Very well said, Johnny !

          • tr60

            What about women homosexuals? The Bible doesn’t say anything about them and Jesus didn’t mention homosexuals at all.

            Why do religious conservatives obsess about other people’s sex lives? My mother (if there was ever a devout Christian) always taught me to mind my own business.

          • Johnny Geetar

            tr60, It would appear that you followed her advice to a T! Look around you and tell me how well that advice to pretend it wasn’t there worked out. From where i’m sitting, it’s looking like we are getting our asses HANDED to us by socialists.
            As far as obsessing over other people’s sex lives, try looking at the new obamacare doctor’s intake form and get back to me on who the sexually obsessed is…. Look for the form called “Social History.” It is new,and MANDATED by obamacare. I was appalled, and told this new doc’s office to stuff it! Behold….
            Are you gay? Are you a lesbian? Was either parent in your home homosexual? Do you partake in anal sex? Do you engage in fellatio on the same sex? Do you engage in cunnilingus on the same sex? Have you ever fantasized about sexual relations with the opposite sex? Are any of your siblings homosexual? How many sexual partners have you had? How many times per month do you engage in sexual relations? Have you ever contracted a sexally transmitted disease? Have you ever been TREATED for a sexually transmitted disease?
            Now these were just the more GLARING ones I can remember. And all this BEFORE asking about your status with firearms! I ran from these meat socks as fast as I could. Cancelled my appt and walked out. Luckily I found the PA from the OLD doctor i used to go to. Guess why that old doctor closed, by the way? You guessed it; Obamacare. She refused to subject her patients to this ghastly, intrusive questionaire, and refused to submit it to patients until the feds cracked down on her and FORCED her to administer it to patients.
            Now, get back to me on who the sexually obsessed is….. And don’t tell me this form and the intrusive questions are needed in order to treat you adequately……

          • garysvent

            Guess we better stay well. The person who asks me questions like that will need hospitalization more than I will.

          • Traveller62

            Yep. People the next time you go to your doctor to be treated, look on the form for the question, “Do you own any firearms?” It’s a backdoor intrusion into your personal life that uncle sam does NOT need to know about. Guestimate, I shall look for those other questions the next time I see the doctor. Thanks, as I did not know about the sexuality questions, but I DID see the “firearms” question.

          • guestimate

            He said he came to fulfill the law, which Moses wrote down quite eloquently. “Better that a person have a millstone tied around their neck and cast into the depths of the sea, than to scandalize one of these little ones.” Also note that the FIRST thing he told the adulteress to “Go and sin no more.” Do you need everything spelled out for you?…or are you just looking for loopholes! Form follows function, it’s part & parcel of ALL “intelligent design.” (Ask any designer.) I MIGHT agree with you (a little) if the damned gays would volunteer to keep their sex lives private, but they choose to parade around as if packing fudge should be a cause for pride.

          • Panors77

            Beat me to it. :) Also not only are the gays bringing everything out in the open but are suing cake bakers for refusing to bake a cake for a lesbian wedding per their Christian principles. It’s now no longer “live and let live”…it’s now “serve me!! YOu OWE me!!” I think not…heh.

          • Traveller62

            What you said is exactly WHY I do not shop at Home Depot. They are major sponsors of gay “pride” parades, and hand out cups and other little amenities to our children at those parades. Mothers and fathers, families have been so desensitized to the word “gay” that they don’t know who supports homosexuality. Yep, Home Depot is a MAJOR contributor to the homosexual lifestyle.

          • Panors77

            Read Romans chapter 1 about male AND female “leaving that which is natural for un-natural”. Jesus might not have said anything recorded specifically about homosexuality, BUT he DID say that the entire law will be enforced……”not one jot or tittle shall be done away with”. Main thing tho is, he “fullfilled” the law for us, but just because he did that doesn’t mean we get to ignore the “moral law” espoused in both testaments.

          • Don’t Even Try It!

            But the Queers aren’t minding THEIR own business!! They are pushing THEIR life choices onto the rest of US!

          • tr60

            They are insisting that their families have the same rights, protections and benefits that our’s have.

          • betmegambler

            The Bible makes it clear that money in and of itself is not evil. In fact Dave Ramsey makes a Christian case every day for the good of money. Please don’t be confused by the evil of some with money.

          • Katie510

            I am not confused about money at all. Money turns into an idol for many i.e. Bernie Madoff? Read Matthew 19:24. I certainly don’t need another “human” making a fortune off books, financial advice and speaking engagements to make a Christian case for the good of money. He talks about common sense. Do you really need to be told debt is bad and cut up those credit cards. Common sense tells you not to spend more than you bring in. Look at our debt in this country. It’s not about the “stuff” money can buy. It’s what you do with that money that makes the difference, to help others. Money comes from God, ability to earn money comes from God if you listen and accept it. Don’t get hung up on “stuff”…. houses, cars, jewelry, etc. it doesn’t matter. Matthew 6:19-21. It can all be gone in a snap. Look around at all the hurricanes, storms, earthquakes, floods, fires, mudslides everything lost that fast.

          • beingstill

            Bernie Madoff? Are you kidding me? He’s the “tinker toy” version of the Social Security Administration! At least Madoff’s con wasn’t under the rouse of an entitlement! The SSA does INFINITELY worse in all ways and they get COLA raises for their entitled, Madoff goes to jail. It should be just reverse, if we’re making comparisons. (…except, those within the government should be hanged. “Where much is given, much is REQUIRED.)

          • Katie510

            If you’re so smart and have all the answers, stop spouting off on a website and go run for office and let’s see how well you perform. It’s always the one’s with the biggest mouths that only scream on a computer. Go run for office……see how it goes.

          • tr60

            “For the LOVE of money is the root of all evil…” 1 Timothy 6:10 King James Version (KJV)

          • beingstill

            You couldn’t possibly be more stupid, Katie! It IS for us to judge based upon the FRUIT of the TREE… read you Bible! Plus, it is not moral, ethical, nor Godly to steal from some… REGARDLESS the reason! And, add to that fact that it’s the government you wish to empower to be the neighborhood bully to do the stealing of the proverbial lunch money while “giving” the stolen goods to those whom he chooses. That is NOT Christian, Godly, Biblical, ethical, moral, etc.!

          • Katie510

            You better read the bible, you judge you will be judged accordingly. Make decision but don’t pass judgment. You sound like a name calling liberal. They start calling people names. I’m not stupid; we still live in a free country and I am entitled to feel the way I do. Those people that steal will atone one day for what they’ve done. You aren’t their judge and jury. I never said these corrupt politicians were Christian or Godly, it’s not my place to judge. Many say they are, but actions speak louder than words and I choose to move accordingly.

          • John Beam

            How can people “not judge,” and still have a working and just judicial system? If you are part of a jury, what are you going to do if all of the evidence in the case points that the defendant is guilty? Are you going to say “who am I to judge?” and allow for a hung-jury? What about the court judge himself? Is he damning himself to hell because he’s using his own judgment to rule in the matter? How does law and justice rule in a sane, civilized society if there isn’t any judging?

            Listen to yourself here. You are “judging” people by your own words to them. You calling them “stubborn,” and “rude.” Who are YOU to say so, if we’re all not supposed to “judge” anyone? One must make sense out of things in order to have sensible and sane communities. Most people would prefer to live in a peaceable fashion, and mind their own business; however, some think that they should do whatever they want to do, regardless of community standards. What do you do in that case? Do you enforce standards that protect people’s right not to have other people trample all over them, or do you just let anarchy reign?

            It is reasonable and right to be able to make judgments, and even discriminate when the situation calls for it, otherwise the world would become a total mess. I mean, imagine a world where the best and brightest aren’t rewarded for their excellence. Where would we be if we saw good effort the same as we saw poor? It cuts both ways. If we can’t judge others for their bad behavior, then where can we stand in deciding when one’s behavior is admirable? All human behavior becomes equal if there is no judging, and that is CERTAINLY NOT a Biblical standard.

          • Katie510

            Making an observation of poor behavior is one thing and not the same as judging someone. There are human laws as there always have been. When you break the law, you must atone. There have always been judges to uphold the law no matter when it was in time. People knew the laws. When YOU judge you put yourself above them and you are no better than they are. Matthew 7:1, Luke 6:37, Luke 6:41, John 8:7 are a few to read. There is never a good reason to discriminate ever. All you have to do is look around the world and know it is in a mess for these very things you state. You and I have no right to judge anybody; good, bad or indifferent. You live your life the way you choose and I will live mine sir. We will all be judged one day by our maker. Good Luck to you…..My only hope is that God will Re-Bless America soon. However, since he’s been pushed out of everything, why would he consider it? Funny how anytime there is an issue or disaster, our politicians use bible scripture, but any other time God is non-existent…I am making an observation.

          • John Beam

            Making an observation of the difference between one’s good behavior and another’s bad behavior can be said to be an act of discrimination. Look up the word. Its synonym is “distinguish.” One use of the word “discriminate” can be used to differentiate without merit, to point out differences to downplay someone; however, it can also be used to point out differences to compare the true merits of something or someone over another.

            When a person is hiring people to work for them, they look through applications and then interview them, asking questions to test their knowledge of the work and their attitudes toward work, people, and the like. The interviewer then must discriminate between all of the interviewees in order to judge who will be the best employees for the company. You discriminate when you go shopping, to judge which product will best suit your needs. Everyone does it. To discriminate, in-and-of-itself, is not evil. Motive rules whether it is wrong or not.

            I actually decided to use this word in order to prove my point. You judged that “discriminate” is something that should never be used in order to make proper judgement of something, without knowing or taking the time to do any research of the word in order to know what you were talking about. You prejudged that this word’s use always connotes something negative, and as I’ve pointed out, that is not the case at all. Being prejudicial is wrong, and that is what you have done in your reply to my last post.

            I run into this sort of improper judgement all the time. Prejudicial statements about “the tea party” and such usually fall into the realm of “the tea party is filled with racist right-wing extremists.” This is of course a lie, but a lot of people truly believe this, because they do not know better; however, regardless of whether they are knowingly lying or not, they are propagating a lie. You have done a similar action, because you said that “there is never a good reason to discriminate ever,” because it is patently false.

            Another type of improper judgement is projection, in that a person sees their own flaws and shortcomings in other people, and condemn them in the process. The person they are condemning can be totally innocent of what they are condemning them for, but they are so seeped in what is wrong with themselves, it becomes someone else’s problem, rather than theirs. It’s a sort of delusion, and many people on the left do this–projecting their own hate and disdain upon people who are simply disagreeing with their point of view.

            Please read this blog post, explaining the context of Christ’s exhortation, and after you have taken this all in, check back with me, if you wish to discuss this further.

            http://psalmseventythree.wordpress.com/2008/03/26/judge-not-lest-ye-be-judged/

          • Katie510

            Thanks but no thanks. You do your thing and I’ll do mine. Good Luck. Enough now, I’m done. You may have too much time on your hands. Have you thought about that? No need to answer that was a rhetorical question.

          • John Beam

            Again, judging and prejudicial dismissal from you. You claim that judging puts the judge above others, yet your obvious disdain does just that. And, yes, your saying that there is nothing to discuss from your end, dismissing it out of hand is very disdainful of you.

            I am through with you too. Your obvious hypocrisy is very disappointing, especially coming from a presumed “Christian.”

          • guestimate

            Everything you describe is true, except the cause. The cause is that US corporate CEO’s got greedy and realized they could move their factories to communist Red China and elsewhere, to exploit a captive pool of slave labor, not be held responsible for environmental pollution they cause, and pay zero taxes; all that while strengthening a bully & godless nation. It wasn’t just Capitalism that created the middle class, but WAR and the military industrial complex. Because America has never had a peace-time economy, because peace is not what the Fortune 500 are about, and they’re the ones who give us the kangaroo Presidents we get to pick from.

          • beingstill

            I LOVE mom-and-pop companies… I HATE corporations! Corporations is lending more and more to the ideologies of the Leftists/Socialists/Progressives/Liberals/Democrats/and at least half of the Republican Party! Big Business is as bad as big government: they do little to HELP the individual’s liberties and freedoms! Instead they TAKE, TAKE, and TAKE again! And still, its not enough… it NEVER is and NEVER will be!

          • Gwynn Ap Nudd

            And mature Capitalism ends Nations as work is outsourced to the 3rd World. And workers are insourced to under cut native workers. Middle Class? No one made them send our jobs overseas. They did it to maximize profits. Likewise, they didn’t give up child labor on their own – they were made to. Look, what you’re looking for is a System or gimmick to eliminate the need for morality – and it just doesn’t exist. The balance between public and private created the prosperity of the mid 20the century. A purely private economy would have destroyed the middle class even earlier.
            Technology eliminates jobs in general. And robotics radically so. Only morality will lead Nations to eschew this in favor of its citizens against the few and their profits.

          • Katie510

            Technology also creates jobs. You still need people to run those robotics. Again, companies got greedy…..they saw an opportunity to increase profits by outsourcing jobs…who couldn’t see that outsourcing jobs was going to break America? How could you not see that?

          • Gwynn Ap Nudd

            Oh Katie. Think. That’s why they’re dong it – because it saves money by eliminating people. The few jobs tech creates is increasingly dwarfed by the many that it eliminates.

          • Katie510

            There are jobs, good skilled labor jobs and no one to fill the positions. it’s sad. Manufacturing jobs are coming back to the US, check out Whirlpool, but there won’t be people to fill the jobs here. It’s a double edged sword……I lost my job, my sister was forced out of hers, but we can’t give up. When God closes a door he opens a window…..remake yourself, retrain yourself do something to make this nation once again a great nation! Complaining about it doesn’t change it. We need to bond together for the good of what is left of this country……if we don’t we’re doomed……GOD RE-BLESS AMERICA!! ONE NATION UNDER GOD and IN GOD WE TRUST….no matter what the atheists want to believe. God Bless You!!

          • beingstill

            Katie, if I had the power, you would be first to get gassed! You’re too stupid to keep around; except for the fact that I really don’t believe I nor anyone else has the right to take innocent human life. So, I guess the “issue” is whether or not you’re “innocent.” If you’re complicit to the evil chicanery going on in Washington presently, believing that all the government’s programs are noble, etc… I put you in the category of aiding and abetting the enemy and its an act of treason against the People of the United States. FREEDOM is to be treasured and cherished! …not tax-and-spend government programs… especially “Health” programs that are entitled “affordable” when its led to EVERYONE’s health care costs accelerating out of control! The whole argument is bogus on its face, and you’ve fallen for it hook, line, and sinker! You’re either ignorant (don’t know) or you’re evil. Regardless, your opinion isn’t worth the time for you to type it!

          • beingstill

            The very CONCEPT of the “corporation” -which started out as a non-profit “project” idea (build a bridge for the community, etc.)- is patently evil. Its sociopathic! Where the government can’t control the people directly they use regulations to impose on corporations to indirectly control the people. 1984? Eh, Orwell was off by only about…. no, wait… he was right on time!

          • wandamurline

            Capitalism is the freedom to produce a product, find a buyer for that product and sell that product and make a profit. Unfortunately, you are listening to the commies that tell you that it is bad….success and hard work from being a producer is a good thing…that is what has made this country exceptional regardless of what the ineligible in chief says. This is why America has prospered. Capitalism is only bad when the government gets involved and has certain big businesses that they support to the detriment of others….in other words, limiting the competition.

          • Katie510

            Big business greed is also an issue. I believe in Capitalism but sometimes greed and corruption set in and spoil a good thing

          • Benjamin Fox

            Don’t want to work for them, don’t and they go under, it is simple when common sense is used.

          • tr60

            There are so many old factory towns throughout this country where the only game going is Walmart, who is directly responsible for all the manufacturing leaving this country. You want that kind of capitalism?

          • beingstill

            That IS how its supposed to work, but how can it “work” when those in Washington deem certain industries/companies “too big to fail”? They’ll just keep stealing from the taxpayers to “infuse” their corporations they “led” into bankruptcy! Big business = big government! They’re two peas of the same pod. Corporations are evil, small businesses are glorious!!!! The perpetual “corporation” for profit purposes really didn’t start until Rockefeller (Standard Oil) went state-by-state to make certain he could get fully indemnified for his socialist/communist behavior. He HATED competition, thought of it as evil! That is NOT a “capitalist” as we all have come to know the term to mean. He was a capitalist… up and until he realized he was more wealthy than 99% of the GOVERNMENTS of the Earth… put together! THEN he “got religion” and deemed competition a sin and evil. I mean, what would the world be if the likes of Rockefeller, Bill Gates, William Buffet, George Soros, Jeff Bezos (Amazon.com), the Apple founders, etc. actually had REAL competition? First of all, an iPhone wouldn’t cost $400, that’s for sure! And, there proprietary software/hardware model wouldn’t be able to survive in REAL competition; i.e., Harbor Freight Tools to the Sears Craftsman tool line!

          • garysvent

            A business isn’t greedy — the people in it may be. Read Adam Smith if you want to know how capitalism is supposed to work.

            Or Walter Williams.

          • Katie510

            Oh please, big business is run by people not by dogs or cats. People have gotten greedy in those businesses and made it about the bottom line, their own pockets and not the people. I believe in capitalism and I know how it should work. But thank you for the suggestion

          • garysvent

            People have always been greedy. Including, apparently, those who don’t wish to work for a living.

            What business do you know of that exists for the people? There aren’t any. They exist for profit. They can’t make a profit if they don’t have any workers. They can’t make squat by themselves. If you don’t like what your employer is paying you, move on. This isn’t a communist toilet, where you have to be a janitor whether you like it or not.

            But nobody owes you anything. You earn it.

          • beingstill

            This is why the “corporation” model – which is pathological (literally!) – is absolutely EVIL! Companies are wonderful; the smaller the business (mom-and-pop types) the better. I wish this country were INUNDATED with small business people! You think we’d have the piece of excrement in the White House if the country were filled with those that own their own business? The whole “Occupy Wall Street” morons would actually have to WORK for themselves, instead of marching to the orders of some moron in a weird suit professor at some Ivy League school – which probably started off as a seminary. (“Oh, how the mighty have fallen!”)

          • beingstill

            The fiscal responsibility of a corporation is to keep the corporation alive and well, feeding the stock investors. That’s literally it! Its not about making a better product/service, etc., although that’s going to be a factor. But, to show you how asinine the “world” of big business is having just learned about the fiscal responsibility of the share holders is FIRST, imagine how warm and fuzzy I feel about “big corporations” being the owners of pharmaceutical companies… yeah, like not at all! Too, think of the overwhelmingly “loving” feelings we all have for our cell phone providers and cable/satellite companies. There’s supposedly competition because we could go to a different company. This is like the “competition” in a general election for president: the choice comes down to “really bad choice A” and “evil choice B.” In other words, the sense of “competition” is an illusion. They’re essentially the same companies for all intents and purposes with just slightly different products. The prices are relatively similar, as is the “customer service” – or lack thereof!

          • Katie510

            BTW: If you are so miserable living here in the USA, LEAVE. Go live someplace else if you think it’s better and stop pontificating. You don’t have to stay here……move. Good luck with that.

          • guestimate

            Sure, but how it’s “supposed to work” and how it DOES work in actual fact are not the same thing. The horse has long been out of the barn and now its in other countries competing with you, and not on “fair” terms.

          • beingstill

            Fair? You think that your average Joe can just “start a business” and compete with big business? Are you kidding? That’s entirely moronic to even suggest. In addition, on a related topic, any business that’s “too big to fail” is TOO BIG! …and needs to be broken-up into many smaller companies! If a certain business is deemed to be catastrophic should they implode, they need to be broken-up into MANY smaller businesses. This would help the employment rate, salary rates, and the overall business model by diversifying all those broken-up businesses with other businesses that need the services and products those smaller businesses would create. We’ve spent the last 50 years consolidating businesses (and money) to be under fewer and fewer hands and controlled by bigger and bigger corporations. This is asinine! Divvy it up so more have access to the RIGHT to earn a living, competing with companies (not corporations) that are of similar size! I’m not “anti-capitalist;” I’m anti “money in just a few hands.”

          • beingstill

            “Capitalism” isn’t Adam Smith. Adam Smith wrote about free enterprise and laissez faire economics. (Read: freedom and liberty for the individual!) “Capitalism” is a word defined by as many people as speak of it: its meaning, therefore, is elusive. I wish we could just never use the word again. Instead, use “economic freedom for the individual.” That might be better, I don’t know… still working on it!

          • beingstill

            There IS a chasm of differences between trying to better for oneself and greed. I don’t know if you can quantify it in writing, but as the Senator said about pornography differing from porn in the 1980s, he “knew it when (he) saw it!” The difference is OBVIOUSLY rooted in intent!

          • garysvent

            Business and government in partnership is called merchantilism, and it is what has brought Japan low.

          • Gwynn Ap Nudd

            The two can’t be separated ultimately. This must be acknowledged so that Government can regulate Business and not vice versa – which is our system of Plutocracy.

          • Gwynn Ap Nudd

            And human beings are just considered capital to be used and thrown away when no longer needed or useful. And you think that is a philosophy that can govern a Nation?

          • beingstill

            Capitalism is presently in China, Russia, and half the world of the socialists. OBVIOUSLY, “capitalism” isn’t the OPPOSITE of the socialist ideology. Hell, George Soros is a capitalist! We need better definitions for our terminology: capitalism is NOT incumbent of a “free” people, but is a way to run economic policies. And, I would challenge what the U.S. has presently is NOT capitalism, but is some bastardized version of Keynsian economics (socialism). Its probably just best described as Progressivism; although, those on the other side of the aisle like to call it “neo conservatism.” Yeah, like the “new” age movement. (Read Genesis chapter 3 to see how “new” it really is!)

          • Katie510

            Honest day work for an honest day pay. Capitalism built this great nation. Perhaps greed in some caused it to go bad, but without capitalism just look around. Look at the jobs lost, look at unemployment. We are in trouble and only God can bring us from this brink of despair…..Praise Jesus and pray he comes to save us from ourselves.

          • Benjamin Fox

            A man hired some for a penny for a days work and at the last hour paid the same to those who worked but, one hour. I know this has to do with the kingdom but, can be used in real life, as the master decided it was fair.

          • John Beam

            I use that example every time I run into a simp who insists that Jesus was a “socialist.”

          • Marlin208

            2Th 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
            Maybe you should start reading the bible instead of burning it

          • Rob

            Citing the Bible to support your idea that we should feed illegals? We feed poor people in Africa because they have no food in their own homeland. Illegal aliens aren’t starving. They’re taking advantage of us and breaking our laws.

          • Benjamin Fox

            Rob, your right, the illegals broke the law and I owe them nothing as law breakers, in Africa the leaders steal the money or food and give to their armies and rob their own people and I feel sorry about the leaders who are evil but we have one here at home, doing the same. God Bless Friend:

          • Benjamin Fox

            A socialist by any other name is still, dumb, stupid and blind and a give me member of the hand out group.

          • jong

            Ah yes. Already been tired moron. Its called Stalinism.

          • guestimate

            Thank you! What you said about banks is true and what corrupts Capitalism, in fact the entire investor mentality of getting back more than you put in. In Ezekiel God condemns bankers for lending at discount and interest, oppressing the poor & the widow, refusing to restore the debtor’s pledge, etc. all sorts of abuses. Today the banks have their hands in everyone’s pockets via their incestuous relationship with the government via the Fed/central bank. That’s why they gave the nobel prize to a guy for his contribution to “game theory.” It’s just a game of monopoly for them, they don’t give a damn about people’s lives. We need a system that enfranchises, vs. disenfranchises …everyone. That would be Justice (better than sacrifice.)

          • sleepergirl

            Holy smokes. There are people like YOU. Was Bill Gates born rich? I think not. He prospered richly through capitalism. In our country true capitalism has been perverted by big government and regulations. Take our healthcare system, which truly does need reform, but not through Hitler/Obama/ReidCare. There is no way for me to shop for the best prices and value for my healthcare. Medicare/Medicaid and third-party payers have so perverted the system.

            Capitalism has helped more people rise out of poverty and prosper at a level that satisfies them than any other system in history. It’s that system that has allowed countless immigrants arrive in the US with mere dollars to their names and bust up into the upper socioeconomic levels.

            You’ve probably been smoking illegal stuff.

          • guestimate

            No, capitalism doesn’t make it your responsibility to feed or help anyone but your fat self, and that is the spiritual problem with it. Yes you ARE your brother’s keeper (and not just the biological one(s.) Even capitalists don’t believe in it, they become Red Chinese communists when there’s a profit to be made, or where did all the jobs go? What you were taught no longer works in the real world.The world owes no one nothing? Then no one owes the world their labor. As usual, it’s a compromise that people approach differently. But beyond what the usurper & liar Paul said, what do you think is the purpose for your life? He who has the most toys wins? Pass it on to your progeny? (yawn.) Know love & serve your Maker? Pray tell how you do that!

          • polmutant

            if you do not work you do not eat. socialism costs deny me added resource to give or help mindsets of my choice. if my mindset is to assist me myself and I, to grow fat backside it is my choice. to worship the lord is a choice, the essence of life is choice, when regulation/legislation inhibit the choice ability it is crime to natural law.silly example if I want to go to Japan for lunch, but cannot afford to because someone else chose for me that I am responsibe to pay tax for 15 lazy ones, I have been cheated. furthermore a happy healthy employee is a productive employee, so inhibiting choice is infringement of happiness which leads to illness which leads to less productivity.
            why work if denied the fruit of your labor?

            want to serve the Maker, learn His laws and obey them to the best of your ability.

        • ceholley01

          I think you all need to read Milton Friedman and his view of capitalism. When you look at history, so far, it is the best method for economic freedom and prosperity of the individual. It unlocks imagination, innovation and individual freedom…where most other systems destroy that power of the individual. There, the free market takes care of ones who cannot take care of themselves (NOTE: cannot take care of themselves is the key), That is usually associated to Christian charity. The main point, you, the individual, is the only limiting factor…think of an idea, service or product that people want, need or desire and you too can become wealthy, or not work and stay poor. THAT IS YOUR CHOICE. and while we are discussing history, lets review our educational system…its time for a change.

          • tr60

            Sounds GREAT! …. Just try opening a hardware store, a grocery store, an independent gas station that does mechanical repairs… you can’t. Well, you won’t last long. Big Capitalism has stomped out Little Capitalism, …’cept maybe an ice cream cart which you know are all being pushed by illegals. DAMN! They’re taking jobs away from Rob.

          • ceholley01

            Find something else people want, need or desire. Look at the PC, Iphone, pet rock, etc. I know someone who wanted to open a dinner. He couldn’t get a loan for a dinner, so he put the dinner in a gas station, because he could get a loan for a gas station. So his dinner is very popular, have to have reservations to get in….open up a string of ice cream carts. You are only limited by what you think you can do. Henry Ford once said: you think you can, or you think you can’t, you’re right.

        • Benjamin Fox

          IrishEddieOHara your a insult to real brain power and need to get your head out of where the sun don’t shine and no pub there?

        • snowmaggedoned

          Troll alert!!! Go back to HuffPo………..

      • AttMore

        You nailed it,1000 up votes….God Bless!!!

    • Oldmonkey

      Hitler’s tutor was Margaret Sanger. The American progressive that founded Planned Parenthood thought some people just shouldn’t be born. The fewer kids born to the masses, minorities, and the poor the better. Those born with a loose screw were lobotomized, and sterilized.

      • TexasJester

        Was her idea to rid America of the “negro problem”…

        • frawgeyz

          yes it was. Ruth B Ginsberg said recently that this is why she voted for it!!!! She thought it was to rid the world of “undesirables”. She was never called on this although waited for the backlash it never came! Disgusting woman!

        • Benjamin Fox

          Not a problem at all, Gods children, created by Him and for Him, racism isn’t of God in any way, man made, man taught and evil that is in all men as everyone born is a sinner.

      • TexasJester

        Was her idea to rid America of the “negro problem”…

      • Katie510

        When you don’t believe in God and have a foundation built on him you think you can control the world. That is evil taking you over. You can go one way or the other and good vs evil is all there is. Though shall not kill. To think you can control who lives and who dies is EVIL.

        • Oldmonkey

          More precisely, a value and respect for life which every Buddhist and Catholic know begins at conception.

      • Benjamin Fox

        Most don’t know she was a true racist and didn’t want other’s to gain strength in numbers and her plan was like Hitlers plan and the names were about the same so changed to Planned Parenthood which is BS, as was Sanger and Hitler, both evil.

        • Oldmonkey

          Though indirectly targeting Blacks, they certainly weren’t her only target.

    • Saltygi

      You really want Joe in charge?

      • Fred_K

        It could not be worse than the bum.

        • garysvent

          A completely empty White House would be better than a White House filled with empty heads.

  • Benjamin Fox

    The first Hitler did it and now the U.S. Hitler is using the same game plan and has been doing so from the beginning.

    • Croco Dile

      Don’t worry Benjamin.
      The story above is a hoax.
      This is out of the WW2 propaganda machine.

      • garysvent

        Just keep believing that, right up until the time the official-looking men come to your door and cart you away to a funny farm somewhere, where everything’s beautiful all the time…..

    • Croco Dile

      Don’t worry Benjamin.
      The story above is a hoax.
      This is out of the WW2 propaganda machine.

  • Tonto

    I been saying since the start of the Obama mistake that he was becoming more and more Hitler-like every day. Seems like most folks don’t realize that Obama and Hitler were/are life long socialists who have a goal of total control of everything people do or even think of doing.

    • polmutant

      it is not hitleresque you see, it is the image of the antichrist.

      • undunder

        How scary is that?

        • polmutant

          not scary at all. just know that every government employee is also the same. it is written about the mark on the hand or the head, everyone tries to figure what the mark is. quite easy, what do you do with the hand? work; what do you do with the head? think. so it is obvious whether the mark is biochip or what ever it means nothing, the clue is that if one works/thinks for building the antichrist kingdom then you have the wolf in sheeps clothing. if one is not for Christ they are against Christ. it is not scary, it is reality; has been and will be to the end, there is nothing new under the sun concerning the human condition.

  • polmutant

    obamacare is the legislation and format for the modern death camp, same as the Nazi’s used. and the sheoples are gleeful they got something for nothing.

  • Charlie

    This article needs to be forwarded to all of our servants of our congress of our country. Just a thought………

    • Dominic De Falco

      Won’t do any good, where do you think they get their idea’s from!

      • Charlie

        Can’t really dispute / debate your post. Actually think that since our servants ,at least most of them, are dolts. Prime example is Senator B. Boxer from CA. Democract party have been counter to the constitutional oath all of our servants take for the seat that we the people put them in.
        Need term limits on all of congress members , judges at all levels , and certainly more prosecution for treason . Any servant that has taken the oath to our constitution and breaks this oath should be tried for high crimes (treason).
        The sheriffs of our country should strart arresting all of these criminals that are our servants of our country. Sheriffs are the only police that are legal via our constitution. All the rest are security personal of our governmental servants . SHERIFFS DEPARTMENTS ARE THE ONLY LEGAL CONSTITUTIONAL POLICE.

      • Charlie

        Can’t really dispute / debate your post. Actually think that since our servants ,at least most of them, are dolts. Prime example is Senator B. Boxer from CA. Democract party have been counter to the constitutional oath all of our servants take for the seat that we the people put them in.
        Need term limits on all of congress members , judges at all levels , and certainly more prosecution for treason . Any servant that has taken the oath to our constitution and breaks this oath should be tried for high crimes (treason).
        The sheriffs of our country should strart arresting all of these criminals that are our servants of our country. Sheriffs are the only police that are legal via our constitution. All the rest are security personal of our governmental servants . SHERIFFS DEPARTMENTS ARE THE ONLY LEGAL CONSTITUTIONAL POLICE.

        • undunder

          Yes, in my view, most politicians are lying sacks of disgusting slimy trash. They lie without remorse and without apology. And the people blindly follow and follow and follow…right over the cliff.

        • garysvent

          We could go much further than that. We could make ‘service’ in government short, and unpaid; no one knows what Congress is worth to a free people, but the current estimate is zero. They could meet for 40 days per year, and then go home to a real job (screen door repair, or whatever they could do).

          The voting age needs to be raised to coincide with the new maturity. About 30 or so, I would say, unless someone honest can produce a maturity test. We could also adopt Robert Heinlein’s suggestion that in order for your vote to count, you have to correctly solve a quadratic equation. I can see it now: “Bush wins over Gore, 17 to 6.”

          In line with a shortened Congressional session would be the elimination of all the agencies that require their attention, supposedly. Over 1,000 agencies infest our federal behemoth at present. There were 50 when we won WWII. Now, if we managed to win a two-front world war with 50 agencies in the fed govt, what the heck do we need with 950 more? Answer: we don’t; they do. “They” are the otherwise unemployable who have been taught to vote democrat like good little robots, and spend 30 or more years practicing narcolepsy in cubicles for lavish pensions. Time for them to find real work too (more competition for those screen door jobs).

  • Charlie

    This article needs to be forwarded to all of our servants of our congress of our country. Just a thought………

  • Glenn

    Simply put, all Socialists are mass murderers. Murder is the only way that they can force people to live as these sociopaths decree.

  • Glenn

    Simply put, all Socialists are mass murderers. Murder is the only way that they can force people to live as these sociopaths decree.

  • Glenn

    Simply put, all Socialists are mass murderers. Murder is the only way that they can force people to live as these sociopaths decree.

  • Bill

    Whoever wrote that Hitler article is full of crap.

    • Traveller62

      Bill, go to your local library and look up what Hitler did to the people, especially the blacks, gays, Jews, pregnant women, the mentally ill, biracial, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and everyone else who did not fit Hitler’s plan for a total aryan nation. Go look up The Nuremburg Trials, where at the end of the war, the people who did Hitler’s dirty work were tried and convicted for their crimes. You can holler that the article is full of crap, but unfortunately it really did happen. Obviously, by your answer, you are of the wrong generation to know what happened back then, but I suggest you do some digging on Adolph Hitler and his practices on people who did not fit his idea of a perfect nation. The death camps are still in place in Poland, Germany, and Austria, where the Jews were sent to be exterminated- the most notorious being Aushwitz where the sign over the front gates is still there saying, “Arbeiten Macht Frei ” “Work makes Freedom”, for which we ALL know that wasn’t the real reason for the Jews and all others to be there. You just need to look up a few items related to the dictator who was the most notorious of all time. Please educate yourself before making comments such as what you posted. There’s too much evidence to the contrary.

      • Dominic De Falco

        He better hurry, all these books and articles that tell the truth are disappearing very quickly. Good thing Europe keeps good records of it all!

      • Dominic De Falco

        He better hurry, all these books and articles that tell the truth are disappearing very quickly. Good thing Europe keeps good records of it all!

        • 2396birchdr

          Canada tells us every day that OBAMA IS KILLING OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS FREEDOM AND WHAT
          ABOUT THE HIPPOCRATIC OATH OBAMA KILLS THAT TOO?

          • Dominic De Falco

            Every Country is sending us warnings about Obama with the exception of Africa. We were even warned by Russia which blew me away!

        • 2396birchdr

          Canada tells us every day that OBAMA IS KILLING OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS FREEDOM AND WHAT
          ABOUT THE HIPPOCRATIC OATH OBAMA KILLS THAT TOO?

        • jmach11

          Quote from Michelle Obama: “Barack knows that we are going to have to make sacrifices; we are going to have to change our conversation; we’re going to have to change our traditions, our history;,,,” That is the dumbest statement ever. History cannot be changed only distorted. Destroying history books that report the facts of history is one way to distort it and that is exactly what the Progressives want to do.

          • Dominic De Falco

            And they bash Sarah Palin for making stupid comments. Maybe Michelle has a Time machine!

      • Dominic De Falco

        He better hurry, all these books and articles that tell the truth are disappearing very quickly. Good thing Europe keeps good records of it all!

      • Dominic De Falco

        He better hurry, all these books and articles that tell the truth are disappearing very quickly. Good thing Europe keeps good records of it all!

      • Croco Dile

        Those books are full of propaganda, mostly very poor and easily to debunk.
        Better you educate yourself…..
        The Truth wants to be discovered !
        It won’t come to you on the way to a supermarket or a ball game.

      • Croco Dile

        Those books are full of propaganda, mostly very poor and easily to debunk.
        Better you educate yourself…..
        The Truth wants to be discovered !
        It won’t come to you on the way to a supermarket or a ball game.

      • Croco Dile

        Traveler, don’t go to your local library to learn history.
        If there were real history books once, they are not there anymore.
        What is left is propaganda (lies).

    • Dominic De Falco

      It is colorful but so close to the truth that it is obvious that you can not imagine!

    • Dominic De Falco

      It is colorful but so close to the truth that it is obvious that you can not imagine!

    • Dominic De Falco

      It is colorful but so close to the truth that it is obvious that you can not imagine!

    • Dominic De Falco

      It is colorful but so close to the truth that it is obvious that you can not imagine!

    • Croco Dile

      Right, Bill !
      Pure WW2 propaganda !
      Still working with gullible people :-)

    • Croco Dile

      Right, Bill !
      Pure WW2 propaganda !
      Still working with gullible people :-)

    • Croco Dile

      Right, Bill !
      Pure WW2 propaganda !
      Still working with gullible people :-)

    • Croco Dile

      Right, Bill !
      Pure WW2 propaganda !
      Still working with gullible people :-)

    • mudguy

      Bill you need check up the real history.
      It is amazing how our forefathers are so right.

      He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.

      Thomas Jefferson

  • Bill

    Whoever wrote that Hitler article is full of crap.

  • Dominic De Falco

    “perfect by eliminating physical/mental defects in the populations via sterilization and medical killing.”

    And the truth be told of ObamaCare!

  • Igor Shafarevich

    It’s important to keep in mind that preserving liberty is up to each of us: http://www.savageleft.com/resources/beacon.html

  • Igor Shafarevich

    It’s important to keep in mind that preserving liberty is up to each of us: http://www.savageleft.com/resources/beacon.html

  • Igor Shafarevich

    It’s important to keep in mind that preserving liberty is up to each of us: http://www.savageleft.com/resources/beacon.html

  • Sweet, Innocent, and Lovable

    I’ve had canser twice because of agent orange, and been told by my Dr. at the VA if I get it again they will refuse me treatment. So much for no death panels!

  • frankenbiker

    Yet the right is the group that is more often called Nazi, go figure. Everything the demoncraps do screams of Nazi socialism/fascism. Yet I’m the Nazi, yeah right.

  • frankenbiker

    Yet the right is the group that is more often called Nazi, go figure. Everything the demoncraps do screams of Nazi socialism/fascism. Yet I’m the Nazi, yeah right.

  • Froi Vincenton

    How can you oppose, criticize and attack the State, the government or the dictator if you and your family’s health, life and future depend on the State? That’s the goal of a single-payer system– to make you totally dependent on the State.

    Only liberal and leftist morons would support this evil collectivist system.

  • IrishEddieOHara

    Programs such as universal health care come about because Christians have spent more time being sure that they have 50″ plasma TVs, a new car every year, an expensive house, and other goodies, than they have doing what Jesus said to do: care for your brothers and sisters. When the cries of the poor, the neglected, and all others who cannot get the help they need from Christians, come to the ears of the politicians, politicians, who are just a tad better than pond scum, see an opportunity to enhance their political standing and enshrine themselves in office for decades by “helping the poor.”

    In other words, if the Church was doing what it should be doing — and that means you, you, and you, who are reading this, for you are the Church, then the government would have never gotten this far.

    • rs1123

      Christians – particularly the Catholics – started hundreds of hospitals in this country where they treated people of all faiths – or of no faith – regardless of ability to pay. The only group that sends money and help to anyone other than themselves ARE the Christians. You bonehead.

  • John Rivas

    While the impersonal nature of the natural pecking order may seem unfair, we all benefit when innovations are first tried by others.

  • Doug Titus

    The “right to health care” was part of Franklin Roosevelt’s “New Bill of Rights”.

    • garysvent

      For Congress, apparently, and other dubious government ‘workers’.

  • Al Chemist

    Hitler Care and Obama Care: a damn good comparison. Which one has ‘death panels’ … panels of non-medical people able to come between a doctor and his patient. Most people in the country will ignore it or deny it until their turn comes up. For those of you over 60, it will come up earlier than you think.

  • maryreher@yahoo.com

    They are forming the one world order. people open your eyes.

  • maryreher@yahoo.com

    They have to control the mass of the people,what better way then threw your health care

  • maryreher@yahoo.com

    our nation will fall under the one world order,We are in the ending times

  • maryreher@yahoo.com

    we are loosing all our freedom,Obama a dictor

  • ceholley01

    People who fail to understand and know history, are doomed to repeat it…over and over again.

  • Johnny

    And we can thank John McCain and his buddies for enhancing obamacare and voting in favor of it. My state is NH – Kelly Ayotte voted in favor of GOV’T. DEATH PANELS. In the next election she is expecting to be reelected.

  • LibertysSon

    He was the Father of many really Bad ideas…

  • futurelife

    Yes, he sure did get universal healthcare, he murdered all that he didn’t want to cover, he put others behind fences and starved them to death, he would shoot anyone who tried to leave the country under his rule. What more can you do for universal healthcare but all the above.

    • garysvent

      Following in Hitler’s footsteps, it seems, is the current White House demon. It will be harder, in the US, because of 50 other state governments, some of whom will come against Obama.

  • rs1123

    Rather a conflict of interest – the government determines if you will stay alive, but if you do, they have to keep sending you checks they would rather use for other things. What is their inducement to NOT just say ‘sorry, we cannot treat you for that’? The sad part is the people who will get turned down have worked and paid IN their whole lives and have been USED by the government. Now in their old age, the money that should help them has been spent mostly by Democrats trying to secure a voter base.

    • garysvent

      I’m waiting for my social security check and the deduction for medicare to be exactly the same.

  • rs1123

    Healthcare WAS AFFORDABLE before the government started giving it away. Now they blame the system they ruined for being what they turned it into.

    • regulus30

      oh yeah!!!!!

  • Johnny Geetar

    I’ve read and digested the comments below, and I put forth that folks are missing one very BIG truism here……. THERE IS NO POLITICAL SOLUTION TO THE CURRENT AMERICAN DILEMMA. Digest that please. The current political climate is NOT discourse, it’s infiltration!You wonder why leftists cannot be reasoned with? Because they do not WANT to discuss via reason; they merely want you to accept IMPOSITION.You can talk with these people until you are blue in the face, attend all the rallies you want, write all the letters you want, sign all the petitions you want, and guess what? THEY DON’T CARE! This is ALL agenda-driven.
    I would further caution citizens NOT to rely on the voting booth any longer. There is a normalcy bias in the American psyche concerning the ballot box that is disturbingly naive….. Folks, it has been irretrievably corrupted. 2012 should have TOLD you that! As the LAST constitutional guarantee for a redress of political grievance, it has been rendered completely worthless. It is so corrupted, it’s results as a reflection of true American sentiment can NEVER be relied upon again. I’m telling you; do NOT hang your hopes on resolution at the ballot box. It is a waste of valuable time. Time we do NOT have……. There will BE NO repeat of 2010,I promise you.
    Folks need to begin wrapping their heads around our true reality. There is NO absolution to be found in the ballot box any longer. Politics will NOT SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. The last solution? It’s sitting in your closet behind your tennis racket. If you are serious about preserving ANY vestiges of the freedom YOU knew for your children and grandchildren, The ONLY answer now lies there. Socialist infiltration will NOT be reasoned out of American existance. It must be FORCED out.
    Read history, folks. In every instance where the yoke of tyrrany was cast off, NONE of them were facilitated by voting or politics. These people are like a disease, a cancer. They will continue to devour you until DIRECT action to KILL IT, is taken. My words can be disturbing to some, I understand. But understand; drastic things are happening to our country right now, Only drastic measures will suffice to mitigate. Voting and attending rallies is like shooting a bb gun at a freight train.They do NOT fear you because they KNOW you are reluctant to embrace the true solution. And as long as they do not fear you, every week will continue to heap further socialist imposition upon you. It can be stopped, but now there is only one way left……..
    I don’t like it any more than the next guy, but this is where we are. We are dying a slow death here by design. Between Obamacare and leftist control of our education systems, freedom will be bred out of America in a generation, and the few remaining patriots will be too weak to contest the issue. Every day, they get stronger, and we get weaker. Many of our OWN CHILDREN no longer embrace the tenets of freedom. What will their condition be a generation or 2 down the line? Conservatives and constitutionalists are mostly over the age of 45. After Obamacare begins denying treatment to our generation, and this new crop of brainwashed folks takes over, the party is finished. Think this through folks, because our window to act is closing……

    • Croco Dile

      I agree with you completely !
      Well said !

  • regulus30

    AMERICA’S “cowardly leader” has many other similar characteristics to hitler;; they are all mental illness related and there was NO POLITICAL SOLUTION TO HITLER EITHER. Johnny Geetar you are right on the money; We the people are being ruled by an oligarchy in DC, soon it is going to come down to them or “we the people” /Ted Cruz; MIke Lee, Rand Paul, Etc. MOLON LABE//////////LOCK N LOAD.

  • Brit Capitalist

    Here is a copy of my blog that went out in July, 2010. Remember that no one in Cuba knew Castro was a communist until he was elected; they just thought he was a
    Patriot. Obama is a Trojan horse positioned by his communist handlers. The Democrat Party has now morphed into the Socialist Workers Party and unless it is stopped you will see this great country change quickly to Obama’s AmeriKa and a new flag will replace Old Glory. Believe it!

    July 2010:
    “I fled British socialism in the early 80’s to come to the land of opportunity. I had witnessed my mother country being slowly prepped over many years and what is happening now in the USA is like watching a re-run of an old movie; the same well-worn but effective Marxist manual marshalling the people by degrees; increasing union power and control and the forcing of the health care bill, which is not about healthcare, just government control of the people. However, thanks to God-given American genes it could be the first time in the history of the world that an attempted marxist/socialist coup will be rolled back (assuming the people wake up in time). I look forward to November. We can win this fight and if we do it will be an historic victory. God Bless America!”

  • danclamage

    Precisely. Obama already used the IRS illegally to destroy his political enemies. Now, under Obamacare, the govt can weed out Conservatives they so routinely vilify as “extreme”.

  • Lisa Richards

    This is 100% true. Germans did start Universal healthcare, and in Hitler’s day he demanded a Common Core where all students learned a new twisted rewritten history: Look what happened to Germany’s Jews under Common Core Universal Healthcare Germany.

    • garysvent

      Also, under Hitler every worker had to join a union, a government union. All other unions were abolished. Guess who got the union dues?

  • Lisa Richards

    Hitler adored the Muslim Brotherhood and Palestinians of the 30s and 1940s idolized Hitler who supported them and vice versa. Why? Exterminate blacks in Africa and Jews

  • dufus

    The American people just don’t learn from history. With all the freebies for the minorities it is damn hard to overcome. They are just ignorant of what is transpiring!

    • garysvent

      You can’t ‘learn’ what is not ‘taught’.

  • Marlin208

    And don’t think for a moment that this isn’t the end game. The elderly in this country will be exterminated by death panels when you become a burden and non productive.
    You will be eliminated to save on the health care costs also.
    When governments go bad, I think we are seeing that right now. This is too much control for this government to have and misery will abound if this is allowed to go through.
    Just look at the way the media and the libs reacted to Palin’s baby. They will eliminate anyone or anything that offenses their ideal.
    Boy , history repeats itself. You can read this article and it sounds just like what is going on now.
    Get ready folks, it will be a long hard few years coming up. And taking the guns away is part of the master plan also.

  • Shears_of_Atropos

    People who seriously study the fall of the Weimar Republic and the rise of Hitler know this, though they may disagree on whether it was better or worse for the German people as a whole. Fact is, there are a lot of materialists out there who are OK with the worth of a human life being measured in terms of that person’s utility to the Populace as a whole. If you can contribute nothing because of age or disability, or born with a defect of some kind, you’re time on earth is destined to be short.

    Hitler would have aborted/killed baby Beethoven. They knew the price of everything, value of nothing that didn’t contribute to Hitler’s 3rd Reich.

  • Buzg

    Sorta makes the case for reincarnation, huh?

  • Steve
  • Benjamin Fox

    Lets see, I went to a school not lead by the Nazi unions and learned real history and have know this for years, wake up America or go down in flames and to be no more.

  • tr60

    Hitler was also the father of the Volkswagen Beetle and the Interstate system.

    My God, you’ve gathered together a bunch of “facts” and concocted one of the biggest cock-and-bull theories I’ve ever read.

    Here’s a better example for you:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI_Oe-jtgdI

    • garysvent

      Hitler was NOT the father of the VW — Ferdinand Porsche was. Hitler just liked the idea of a car for the people — he loved what Henry Ford had done for individual transport in America — and wanted to emulate that for Germany. He spoke about a car for the masses many times, and when the mfgrs wouldn’t come up with what he wanted, he got the KdF organization to finance the factory in what is now called Wolfsburg, and hired Porsche to design and build it. They produced something like 600 cars, all of which went to Nazi hierarchy, before the plant was converted to war production.

      After the war, Hitler was dead by suicide. The VW plant was in the British sector of Germany, and they used it to repair their vehicles. They began to make VWs again to supply the MIlGov in Germany. In 1948, they hired Heinz Nordhoff to run the place — when they left Germany in the hands of the Germans — to produce VW Beetles.

      Eventually this factory produced over 5,000 cars a day. Hitler was long dead. If anyone could be called the father of the Beetle, it was Porsche whose company designed and tested the prototypes, or Nordhoff, who built up the world’s largest automobile factory.

      • snowmaggedoned

        Great post follow-up!!

  • Buzg

    We were warned about this.

    “One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It’s very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian
    project. From there it’s a short step to all the rest of socialism.” Ronald Reagan
    “The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.” Albert Camus

  • garysvent

    Hitler’s statements are mirrored by Rahm Emmanuel’s brother, who is some sort of doctor with a big mouth and no morals. His name, I think, is Ezekiel.

  • jong

    And of course Obama has the Jewish version of Hitlers health care plan being offered to the elderly. Death.

  • Howdy Doody Conservative

    Because resources are limited, the concept of universal healthcare requires the Government to make decisions on the distribution of healthcare that will determine the survivability of different groups in society. That is, the welfare of the collective and government priorities are placed above that of the rights of any individual.

    Once you have given the Government that much power, there is no natural barrier between you and the Holocaust of the Nazis. It is only a matter of degree, of how far they want to take this concept that social welfare trumps individual rights.

    This is the inherent evil of universal healthcare. It gives Government the right to decide life and death for entire classes of society, as opposed to individuals contracting for their own healthcare. This is why Hitler liked universal healthcare so much that he imposed it on conquered countries, not exactly because he was so concerned for the well being of the subjected peoples, but because it gave him the right over entire classes of people to decide who lives and who dies. It gave him the power to engineer the composition of society to his own malicious requirements. Entire classes of people can be eliminated with no judicial process being necessary.

    “Universal healthcare is not aligned with American founding constitutional principles and requires a very benevolent government in order to function well.”

    By definition, it cannot function well. It is Marxist in its root, and doomed to inefficiency, corruption, compulsion, and failure. Have the benevolent governments of Canada or Great Britain led to successful universal healthcare systems?

    Obamacare is designed to break us financially, spiritually, and physically.

  • sovereigntyofone

    ” eliminating physical/mental defects in the populations via sterilization and medical killing.” Well, now doesn’t that have a sound of familiarity to it especially the ” medical killing ” part. Let’s see what comes close to something like that in Obamacare. Oh, I remember now the ” death panel ” it’s not really called that in the bill/law but what it does adds up to the same thing. It’s the panel that decides if your medical treatment costs more than your life/age is worth. I’d say that’s just about as close to Hitlers ” eliminating physical/medical/mental defects wouldn’t you say. Except under the Obama administration there would be one added to those three listed, kill off all the old people (not outright killing them, but deny medical treatments and tell them to take a pill and crawl off in the corner and die quietly) that know what the Constitution is, what’s in it, and what it stands for. Those that remember freedom, rights, and liberties comes from God, not the government. Obama isn’t trying anything new, he’s just added a new name and twist to it. ” Those that do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it “.
    Just my 2 cents worth.

  • 71911E

    “…because sometimes governments go bad.” Factually incorrect, as the Founding Fathers knew so well. Governments by their very nature always go bad, even when the law of the land is designed to protect the individuals from that happening. Our current situation is an explicit example of this.

  • DouglasDauntless

    If it weren’t for Justice Roberts, who must have done some really something dirty
    in his past, that Obama had him by the neck all he had to do was NO and
    Obama Care was dead. But he said it was a tax. I said in my articles is
    was Government controlled murder of we the people. And our Senators and
    Congressmen are shoving it down our throats, all team players as King
    says to cull we the people by law. It is against the Constitution that
    the Government can pick and choose who will live and who will die. I
    only wonder when we will have the guts as a free people to rise up and
    take our freedom back and the lives of our families.

  • Sam

    What did Valerie Jarrett say after the election about payback? The opponents of obama have been targeted ever since. Look what the IRS is doing. They will use health care to get us to do what they want. Vote Republican? You just might not get all the care you need. I can see it now. This is a rotten, evil government that is trying to turn us into an Arab country under communism.

  • Howdy Doody Conservative

    The O’bonga is just wrong for America. He is more suited for Kenya or Libya.

    • ThomPaineJr12

      GO TO HEII, YOU RIGHTWING NUT POS

  • WASP

    Sure. Just ask the “patients” of Dr. Mengele.

  • CinciTiger

    Hitler would have been a good DemocRAT since they think like him and are allied with Muslims like the Nazis are. Nazism is progressive ideology on steroids.

  • IrishEddieOHara

    Look around you, you bonehead. Catholics spend millions of dollars on trinkets and toys because their Capitalist masters program them to do so. But when a need comes up in the Church, all of a sudden their pockets are dry. They can spend millions on themselves and not a damn nickel on others.

    I have run a website now for a couple of months begging for help for a friend of mine who is in danger of losing her house because a “surgeon” (a quack) crippled her.

    My response has been next to nothing.

    And don’t even start me on how so many “Catholics in name only” did atrocities to the Native Americans of Hispaniola.

    Yes, the pope ordered the slaves to be sold, but the damage by then was already done. Honestly, it’s a miracle of God that the Church is as big as She is today.

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