About the author: Matt Barber

Matt Barber is founder and editor-in-chief of BarbWire.com and an attorney concentrating in constitutional law. In addition to his law degree, Matt holds a Master of Arts in Public Policy from Regent University. Matt is both an author and a popular columnist. He’s known for a unique writing style (an entertaining blend of thoughtful analysis and Swiftian satire, delivered with a rapier wit). Many newspapers and online publications run Matt’s columns, to include WND, TheBlaze, the Washington Times, TownHall and many more. Author of the book, “The Right Hook: From the Ring to the Culture War,” Matt is currently penning his first novel. In addition to frequent public speaking engagements, Matt has appeared as a cultural analyst on the Fox News Channel, MSNBC and CNN and is a regular guest on dozens of talk radio programs and networks including Michael Savage, the G. Gordon Liddy Show, Dennis Prager, the Michael Medved Show, the Janet Mefferd Show and others. Matt also co-hosts “Faith and Freedom” a daily legal and cultural issues talk radio program heard on about 90 stations across the country. Matt served twelve years in the Army National Guard, was a law enforcement officer for three years and a corporate fraud investigator for five years. Setting him apart from others in his various fields, Matt was an undefeated heavyweight professional boxer retiring in 2004. Prior to turning pro, he was a several time state and regional Golden Gloves champion, competing in the 1992 Western Olympic Trials and winning a Gold Medal in the 1993 Police and Fire World Games.

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  • RhondaOR

    If God is against gays why does it say David loved Jonathan more than women? And why does the bible say David was after God’s heart and spoke by the Holy Spirit? Grow up. Love is love and God is love.

    • jong

      And you are headed for the firey lake. David loved Jonathan as a brother. You of course want to twist it in to something it was not. And of course you missed the bit where David sinned agasint GOD and Nathan had some bad news for him. Typical shill and child.

    • Anthony Stone

      The terminology is the same used for brothers or soldiers who have served in combat together not sexual. When the bible refers to sexual connotations the word knew or to know is used. AWI

    • JoJo58

      Because you are using a modern interpretation of the word.

      With David and Jonathan that there is NO Biblical account of a sexual
      relationship. That is interesting in itself. If they were homosexual
      lovers, why is there no open description of this fact? Some would argue that the social pressures forced the writer to hide the truth. But there are open discussions of homosexual activity in other places in the Bible, why not here. Part of the problem is that in those other areas of the Bible where homosexual behavior is openly discusses, it is ALWAYS in a negative sense (as something we SHOULDN’T do). If Samuel is cleverly hiding the homosexual behavior between David and Jonathan here, he is doing so as a prophet of God, knowing full well that such behavior is offensive to God! Does that seems consistent with the canon of Old Testament scripture? So how is it then, that David and Jonathan’s love was deeper than that of a man and woman? Well, these two men were certainly connected as brothers, in fact, they were brothers-in-arms during war. If any of you ever had the chance to talk to two friends who fought side by side in World War 2 (just watch “Band of Brothers”) you know that the love between men in a situation like that is deeper in some ways than the love between a man and a woman. Even guys that served over in Iraq and Afghanistan are the same way. Is this not also a possible reading of the text here? And is this reading not more compatible with the other clear teaching of the Bible and the historic accepted traditional understanding to the relationship between
      David and Jonathan?

      • Bruno

        During the vietnam war, there was a popular song even. he’s not heavy,he’s my brother.

    • jhorenka

      Oh pleeese… The phrase do with a homosexual relationship. In the NIV there is no reference to ‘woman’ or ‘women’ as in ‘David loved Jonathan as a woman’. The word interpreted woman is nephesh (soul) i.e. David loved Jonathan as his own self…

      • Thomas J.Stratford

        Great! now tell us all about Romans 1 and how it says “God has left them to their vile affections” {Homosexuals are Godless}, and how Homosexuals “are deserving of death”. But nice try.

    • ezekiel22

      Rhonda did you know that God is so much more than love? I know sloppy agape is all the rage. Like a kidney stone it too shall pass. He is Justice and Mercy and Grace, and Protector and Provider, and Defender.

    • Thomas J.Stratford

      Is that the same loving God that killed thousands of Egyptian children in the plagues? Oh and I guess some man that has a love of his Mother more then any woman is into incest? Buffoon!

  • TexanForever29

    Rhonda, God loves gays just as much as He loves straights. He also abhors sin. Here’s a few verses you might read, Romans 1:26, Leviticus 18:22, 1 Timothy 1:10, and 1 Corinthians 1:9. God hates ALL sin, and it is clearly stated that having relations with someone of the same sex is a sin. Adultery is also a sin, so straights who indulge in sexual behavior outside of marriage are also sinners. Love all people, but the sin they commit cannot be condoned. The author in this story is glorifying sin, just as if he had written a book encouraging people to go out and have affairs. Hate the sin, love the sinner.

    • 19gundog43

      Don’t bother responding to RhondaOR she/it is a auto-bot or a troll who goes under different names and never responds. It will pop up under another name as soon as people get on the it.

      • TexanForever29

        I’m sure you’re right, gundog. And the left calls US intolerant!

  • 19gundog43

    Jesus said there would be followers in name only. We are seeing this
    falling away with our own eyes. Spineless pseudo-christians will kiss up to the
    World to make a buck! At the final judgment these kind of so-called “christians”
    will be the ones who hear “Depart from Me, I never knew you”

    Can’t wait for the trolls that haunt sites like this to crawl out from under
    their bridges/basements and start calling us haters, homophobes, blah, blah!

  • Victor

    The Garden of Eden fiasco doesn’t work, but although it has been tried over and over and over again, the devil still remains in the details with certain DEATH for just a little while longer…

  • J Cooper

    These miss guided people can try to change God’s word on homosexuality ALL they want, BUT the truth of his word is plain. All I see anymore is somebody writing a book hoping it will alter someones thinking. You cannot live this sinful lifestyle and have hope for eternity. None of God’s word is out of context, nor flexible. Sad for those who continue to practice it…….

    • jag57

      You are right about possibly altering someone’s thinking, so it seems you are familiar with the old saying, if you throw enough excrement on the wall, some will stick.

  • JoJo58

    Gee, has it dawned on the Christian community yet that there are activists infiltrating the church, Christian businesses/companies whose goal is to destroy from within? The Bible clearly states that homosexuality is NOT acceptable. Gay Christian? How does that work when your chosen lifestyle is going against Christian doctrine? As for the publisher, anything for a buck.

  • jong

    Ah for the time in the near future where we can get “old testament” on their arses. The wheel is turning back towards us once again. Let us make sure we use it wisely.

    • http://www.lesbiansinmysoup.com/ Katy

      I know you’ve been looking for an excuse to murder people for a long time. But your delusions are getting deeper. I hope that you get help before all this tough talk in your momma’s basement transforms into violence in the name of a misunderstood God.

      • jong

        Poor lying child. It is quite obvious that you have little or no understanding of GOD. As for the wheel it is turning and not for gays but, against them and those that defend them. Live with it.

        • http://www.lesbiansinmysoup.com/ Katy

          I feel pretty good about my relationship with God. And about the direction of equality in this country.

  • Anthony Stone

    Satan knows G_Ds WORD better than I or any other Christ follower. Just look at thte temptation of Christ. The true gay agenda: http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/pwh/swift1.asp

  • taliesin319

    The pendulum swings only two ways and throughout history this has never changed.While it is not quite at its furthest point there are signs idicating that it will once more begin it inexorable tract. It will take at least a couple of years to be clearly perceived but it will begin the whole process as it has always done.

  • Jean Henri Laprime

    I suggest he attempt this of the qu’ran first. After all they are a “tolerant and peaceful” religion. The book will probably be very well received.

  • antiliberalcryptonite

    Hope Vines enjoys frying in héll.

  • MikeyParks

    How can you be in favor of a genetic defect? That’s like a pro-Down syndrome book.

    • CherryAnn1000

      Oh pleeeezzzzee!

  • Jeff Brodhead

    We are NOT just animals – we do not function only at the instinctual level like all the other animals. We have freedom to choose how we live our lives; to base our lives on our understanding and our innate grasp of right vs. wrong.

    If some humans choose to be animals; to turn from the obvious CREATED nature of life, then do not follow them!

    • jhorenka

      Jeff – This is how I look at it: We each have one vote to be exercised in the voting booth on any issue. As a Christian I would vote against gay marriage. Now as you see more and more states and the courts are upholding gay marriage. Jesus said to render unto Caesar those things that are Caesar’s. So by disparaging gay people we single out gay folks as ‘special’ sinners. The word ‘judgmental’ now comes into play because ewe are all sinners. One should be respectful of everyone. It then would also be the time for the attitude of ‘love they neighbor’. In the end God will do the judging and He will indeed judge us according to the way we fall into the trap of judging others.

      • Jeff Brodhead

        jhorenka, What we have is a Constitutional Republic, which is based upon the laws of nature and nature’s God. We do not have a “democracy”, which is majority rule enslaving the minority.

        Jesus said to render unto Caesar, yes, BUT WHO IS Caesar? Certainly NOT OUR governments. I have no king but Christ Jesus.

        Homosexuality devours civilizations. The homosexuals do not care, nor do their promoters – God has given them over to depravity; to a reprobate mind. Would you willingly make those with worthless minds your rulers? As HIStory has shown, once in positions of power, their corruption spreads like a cancer.

        We have been very clearly warned about homosexuality. If some choose to live that “lifestyle”, that is on their own heads. If we do not protect its effect on our society, we are supporting it.

        Where do you stand?

  • Pastor Carmen

    Deception in the last days is here, God never supported Sins neither did Jesus support sin When he told the those who were caught in sin go and sin no more. Abomination in God’s eye than is still an Abomination today He Never changes 1=1 is 2 no more how you try and spin it. Those that Are deceiving many and tuning them away from God better watch out, God never approves of any sin. Excepting Jesus into ones live does not give us a Free sin card any time we what to sin Sorry God does not work the Sinners way especially Homosexual trying to say you are a Christian what part of Gods word say it is OK to marry a Man and a Man or a Woman and a Woman. Homosexuals that are in same sex is not a Christian and God does not approve of it. Neither so I.

  • sargeant rock

    In the 20 some years I have been teaching and preaching the Word of God, I can tell him plainly there is NO justification or support in God’s word for homosexuality. IT IS an abomination to God and no amount of twisting, distorting, sugarcoating or watering down will change that. There are far too many scriptures to list them here that makes that point perfectly clear.

    Romans 1:26-28 makes it perfectly clear the results of their actions;
    For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;

    • jhorenka

      Rock – If it one thing the Bible is absolutely clear about is any sex outside of the bonds of marriage between one man and one woman…

  • jerry1944

    So does that mean he want to change the Bible to read what he wants. Sounds like a dem doesnt he. But the gop is loseing there morals and principle also

  • Bob Crawford

    All of this reinterpretation of the Bible is no surprise. It all started with Martin Luther and the whole so-called reformation. What is did was allow anyone to interpret the Bible the way they see fit. The concept of Sola Scriptura is the entire problem. Jesus Christ established one Church by His direct Word and put Peter in charge as its first leader. Jesus vested His authority in Peter – “what you bind on Earth is bound in Heaven.” So what the Church established as law here would be guided by the Holy Spirit and bound in Heaven. But now with Luther’s help, the authority has been undermined as was the Word of God. So if Luther and all the hundreds of Christian sects can now interpret the Bible they way they want, why not some homosexual to make it fit his lifestyle? The whole Protestant dogma of which has not standardization, is the reason people like this can interpret the Bible differently than the teachings that are set by Jesus through His one true Church. We all reap what we sow folks.

    • Here here

      I humbly propose that there are two problems with that line of thinking. 1. The medieval Catholic Church was off the rails with corruption and vice and In severe need of reform, so there is plenty of blame to go around. We are ALL, catholic and Protestant alike, reaping what we’ve sown. 2. If there is indeed only “one true church” a strong case can be made for the Orthodox Church. In that event one could claim that this all started with Pope Leo IX and the so called Great Schism.

    • jhorenka

      Crawford wrote “Jesus Christ established one Church by His direct Word and put Peter in charge as its first leader. Jesus vested His authority in Peter – “what you bind on Earth is bound in Heaven.”

      That’s your interpretation right? Few Greek scholars would agree with what the Catholic church grabbed onto here.

      Crawford wrote “The concept of Sola Scriptura is the entire problem.”

      Now think about that folks! The Bible as the authority is the problem! Duhhhh like before Luther the politicized church got to interpret the Bible ‘their way’ – right?

      The proper way to interpret the Bible is to go to the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek and exegete from there. Millions of books have been written on every verse in the BIble and over the millennia we pretty much can gain what the Bible really says. Where we lack understanding we turn to the scholars.

      Crawford wrote “So if Luther and all the hundreds of Christian sects can now interpret the Bible they way they want, why not some homosexual to make it fit his lifestyle?”

      Again, the Bible is clear to any idiot regarding homosexuality and any sex outside of the bonds of marriage between one man and one woman…

    • Joe Bob Jenkins

      So my interpretation, when Jesus is askingPeter his questions, “the, ON THIS ROCK I will build ” the ROCK is JESUS. just MY interpretation bob

      • CherryAnn1000

        And you are right. Cephus means a stone; Jesus is The Rock upon which all else rests.

    • CherryAnn1000

      I take it you are catholic. You sound just like some friends of mine who have just “converted” to Catholicism after knowing Christ genuinely for many years. He says exactly the same thing as you, and he is wrong as you are.

  • BA Brightlight

    Perhaps Mr. Vines should refer to Luke 6:46: Why do you call me Lord Lord and not do what I say. Lev 20:13 is not ambiguous nor open for various interpretations. You have to acknowledge the perpetual persistence of Satan—like the Terminator—he never stops.

    • Bob Crawford

      The whole Bible is subject to interpretation. Look at all the Christian sects who interpret the Bible differently. Either it is all open for interpretation or none of it is. You cannot pick and choose. This is the damage caused by Martin Luther and his entire undermining of the Catholic Church in the name of “reform.” The only authority as established by Jesus Christ on this Earth is the one true Church which was established by Jesus Christ Himself. That my friends IS in the Bible.

      • Lgbpop

        Says who?

      • jhorenka

        Crawford – You can prove or condone just about anything using the Bible. The “Bible is subject” to CORRECT interpretation. That means a knowledge of the underlying Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic – the reason we have these types of scholars – not ‘willy-nilly whatever I want it to say today to fit my moral needs’. There is no blurring of what the Bible says about any sex outside of the marriage between one man and one woman. As for homosexuality the word ‘abomination’ is applied. Historical orthodox Judeo-Christian principles, for the last 3500 years condemns homosexuality. Nothing blurry or open to interpretation in Leviticus 10:22 – the word ‘abomination’ rendered here from the Hebrew means ‘a thing to be abhorred’. See also Gen. 19:5; Judges 19:22; I Kings 14:24; for starters. The Take a look at Romans Chapter 1. Then survey the OT/NT and what it has to say about sex outside of marriage.

        Here’s the thing. If gays want to be gay that’s fine with me, but what they are doing is attempting to normalize what most Christians (and just about any other religion) see as blatant SIN. And they are doing so by ramming their lifestyle down our throats.

        You say Martin Luther “undermined” the Catholic church? You mean the one that had become totally politicized and that strayed far from Biblical principle and what Jesus and the Apostles taught? I am sure you know all about the history of the Reformation tight?

        You also wrote “The only authority as established by Jesus Christ on this Earth is the one true Church which was established by Jesus Christ Himself.” And most of today’s Christian churches would say that they are part and parcel of that church, and Jesus did not set up the Catholic church as THE church. You also wrote “That my friends IS in the Bible”. Oh no it isn’t. Much of what Catholicism teaches today i.e. the veneration of saints, Mary, endless traditions, the confessional, and traditions on and on are NOT found in scripture which was what Luther and the Reformation were all about…

        Please spare us your lectures…

      • ezekiel22

        Not true sir! The Bible has always said what it says including the Pentateuch. It is what people have done with the words that is a crime. That will also include the Catholic Church too. I try to be a Berean which is allowed and encouraged. Remember it was the faith that Peter had upon which Christ would establish His Church. That means there will be Baptists in Heaven too as well as other denominations.

  • Utah ranchlady

    so where and when were the 10 Commandments revoked? God’s word is once and forever — no feel good, don’t make anyone feel bad, nicey nice PC welcoming of homosexuality will change the basic situation—It’s not about people it’s ABOUT BEHAVIOR. You get with God’s program or you don’t and are a secularist. PERIOD.

  • Azsteve53

    Mr. Vines and other homosexual activists like him have been engaging in Christian biblical revision for some time. Like dedicated marxists they worm their way into an institution they despise , in this case most any Christian church for the sole purpose of bringing it down through subterfuge, manged chaos, and synthetic dissent.

  • jocaan

    Genetically is the correct way to define homosexuals. Since biologically two homosexuals cannot produce children a Civil Union is the most natural way for gays to express their relationship and commitment to each other.

    • CherryAnn1000

      And that means what….? There is nothing genetic about it. It has yet to be shown so, and never will be. God does not make junk, and homosexuality, like lying, rage, cheating, etc., are junk. God condemns it all. And I don’t see anywhere in scripture where God condones Adam and Steve getting married.

  • WesTexan

    “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil; who place darkness as light and light as darkness; who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!” —Isaiah 5:20

    Altering God’s message invites doom. The warning refers to the book of Revelation but is equally true regarding all divine revelation.

    ” I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.” —Revelation 22:18–19

  • Dadoo

    A large part of the misunderstanding is that most
    Christians want to throw all the homosexuals into the lake of fire. Jesus
    called Christ “Went about doing good and healing all them that were oppressed
    of the devil” (Acts 10:38) which included homosexuals. He never once treated
    anyone possessed of a wicked spirit as a “will-full sinner”. Homosexuality is a
    wicked spiritual illness whose root cause lies in idolatry. Our family’s enemy
    has tried to turn the conversation into one of “choice” and “sexual preference”.
    That man who lived in the tombs covered with chains was not living there
    because he enjoyed it; he was driven to it by the spirits manipulating him. All
    through the old testament whenever idolatry was rampant there were “houses of Sodom”
    sprouting up like weeds. This truth is confirmed in the new testament, Romans
    1. The conversation needs to change starting with the children of God, and the
    conversation needs to be about One true God, loving deliverance for all men by
    his son Jesus called the Christ, and the eternal life that comes from obeying
    Romans 10:9-10. Preach the Word, deliverance will come. The word is not “condemnation”
    the word is “deliverance through Jesus Christ”. People who have been tempted
    with this stuff or who have fell beneath it are hurting, guilty, oppressed and
    in need of a knowledge of the truth.

    Don’t misunderstand me. I know there is an agenda;
    homosexuality is not God’s will. But the agenda is one of my family’s enemy’s
    devising, and I am not ignorant of his scheming. Fighting about a symptom does
    not cure the disease.

    • Winston

      So, are you self-justifying love of homosexuals even thought their choice is personal rebellion against God/Jesus? Perhaps you failed to read the full first chapter of Romans. Are you supporting homosexuals? If not then don’t soft pedal their agenda when they squash Christians by calling NOT Christians, but bigots and haters. Are you calling Jesus/God a liar? Jesus told his disciples (including all sincere Biblical Christians today) to go into the world and make disciples of all men/women. He did NOT say bring the world/sinners into the Church! Get it right.

      • lilij

        LOVE the SINNER.
        DESPISE the SIN..

  • craigmayberry

    Man that is laughable…Dude wants to reform ….GOD!?!

    • Winston

      The Bible – God’s Word to man through men, warns of those who are fools in their rebellion against God. There are those who do right in their OWN eyes, yet it leads to (spiritual) death/destruction.

  • Winston

    Flat out fact: you can’t be “homosexual” and be “Christian”. Even the very mention of homosexual and Christian at the same time is apostasy to Biblical Christianity. Many may call themselves Christian but are so in name only… CINO. And, you don’t even have to be a homosexual, but if you even endorse, support, or accept the lifestyle, you are equally guilty of the sin. Read the entire first chapter in the Book of Romans. I don’t have to judge, God already has, eternity in hell for the abomination and personal rebellion against HIM.

    • ezekiel22

      I have read the first chapter of Romans. Paul stated very clearly, “as some of you were!” He pointed out the saving grace of Christ for that and many other sins. He left the arms of Jesus open for even the gays contingent on repentance.

      • lilij

        Contingent on repentence is key here…

  • Topazinator

    Let’s go ahead and rewrite the Bible. We’ve already had to rewrite that musty old Constitution.

    • johnnywood

      Let`s not rewrite either of them. “If it ain`t broke don`t fix it.”

  • AR154U

    Gay Christians, Jewish Nazis, Black Klansman or Hispanic Mathematicians something wrong with this picture??

  • ezekiel22

    The argument as to whether or not we are in the end times is answered. Of course we are. Now it is whether or not we are going to choose to stand or are we going to join with the faling away. At this point in time man is again making God. Unfortunatelly that never has worked and has cost great suffering. I can honestly love a gay person but the sin that they are in deserves the same treatment of that of drunkeness. Changing the wording and even the meaning of the Bible in whole or in part is worthy of condemnation.
    People that choose to be gay need our prayers and we need to keep the hate out of it. When the president of Chic-Fil A gave in to the gay groups for the sake of money I felt pain for him. I will not patronize his establishments.

    • http://www.lesbiansinmysoup.com/ Katy

      The conservatives’ attempts to blame their vitriol and hate on God is really bad. You should rethink that tactic.

  • Wes

    The Bible is very clear on the issue of homosexual activity. That’s not the real question. The real question is whether or not people choose to obey it or brush it off!

  • disqus_Eh7aK6ca5A

    I’m impressed that they took time off from their other activities to write. But I digress. The Bible supports homosexual activity?! Uh, NO Not REALLY. Not AT ALL. That’s about as true as long as a snowball would last in Hell. That long. Period. And by the way, those same ‘writers’ who aver that this is true may very well find themselves WISHING for a snowball when they arrive IN Hell. Unless they beg God for His forgiveness.

  • The Old Man

    I guess we will see an update to the king James version

    • Nancy Sternberg

      We have one. Its called the “Queen James Version”.

      • lilij

        Last wrods of the Bible, God’s HOLY word… According to Jesus…

        12 “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

        14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

        18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.

    • lilij

      ALREADY DONE!~
      The Queen James Bible – A Gay Bible
      The Queen James Bible is a
      bible translation edited to prevent homophobic misinterpretation of
      God’s Word. The Queen James Bible seeks to resolve interpretive
      ambiguity in the Bible as it pertains to homosexuality: They edited
      those eight verses in a way that makes homophobic interpretations
      impossible.Available at Amazon.com…
      Came out a year or two ago… The False teachers, false prophets and
      Spirit of the Anti Christ are much at work destroyning God’s Truth with
      lies just as Satan convinced Eve and Adam to eat of the apple..

      • The Old Man

        I guess I have been in the country too long, gonna have to keep up in the future.
        Personally I have the Geneva Bible…. believe it or not ….. it’s still available. Thank God for that.

    • Ned

      Too late! This household KNOWS the truth.

      God’s Word doesn’t evolve.

      • The Old Man

        Good !!! I agree

  • ActualConundrum

    Sorry if you disgard Gods law you are not a Christian. This is not a Christian publisher. It is obscene that it calls itself one.

  • Stealth

    What a SICK and DELUSIONARY MORON, to actually subvert what the TRUE Bible say’s……. How can he explain SODOM GEMMORAH!?

    • CherryAnn1000

      Or Paul’s scathing denunciation of their acts in most of Romans 1?

    • Panors77

      I also DO beleive archeaologists HAVE found to cities in the middle east what they believe to be Sodom and Gommorrah in recent years too.

  • CherryAnn1000

    Well, that means no more book purchases from Waterbrook or Multnomah. I’m getting sick and tired of Christian organizations compromising with the world’s minority of homosexuals in regards to their chosen lifestyle. The Bible says it is sin, and that’s enough. Let’s see how long it is before both these publishers beat a hasty retreat on this issue. Still won’t change my mind on purchasing their books.

    • lilij

      NEVER spend the hard earned monty God gave you on any business, item, etc, that is not built on a solid Christian foundation… Starbucks, Walmart, etc, are all of the anti Christ spirit and spout lies for a profit…

    • Ned

      It’s truly nuts!

      ONLY 1-2% of the U.S. population is perverted, er “gay”.

  • tidewatertilly

    I initially was outraged. How could the publishing company allow this to be published since it is a Christian company. But I thought again. Who is really going to read this book? Gays. Maybe a few people. But by and large, only a handful of Christians will buy this and really think homosexuality is ok with God. So I do not think that this book will be on anyone’s best seller list anytime soon. It will come out and pass away and relegated to the dollar book tables just like Kathy Lee Gifford’s book and cd made it to the dollar store book piles a week after they came out. It will all come to nothing and the author will be judged by God. God is still God and He can defend Himself. God’s word is still His Word, no matter how much it is misquoted. It is an outrage, but let them publish this little book, it is not like worse books have not been written and published. Can anyone remember the name of the last one? I can’t.

    • johnnywood

      I highly recommend “the BOOK” that says ‘GOD is not okay with sodomy'”.

    • lilij

      Actually, MANY Christians will read this book. Some will read out of curiosity. SOme will read because they know not what they do. Some will read because there are many false Christians in the world, many false teachers.. The Bible clearly explains MANY will fall away from the TRUTH before it is all said and done…

    • Eric Haulenbeek

      Good point tilly! I can’t remember any of the trash that’s been published around this issue, let alone the last one, Thank God!

    • Ned

      Merchandising lies under God’s name is WRONG.

      Saying a sin, that God sees as an “abomination”and twisting Scripture to accommodate that LIE, will falsely reassure “gay” people and mislead other borderline Christians that don’t read their Bible. It will create confusion. We have allot of HUMANISTS that believe they are “Christians”. The fact that even ONE is fooled is too much. We need to hold the line.

      It makes me angry and upsets me. Truly we are living in troubling times …. Churches are hardly effective. Our youth is walking away from the faith. Our Freedom of Religion is being threatened by these lies. Our Freedom of Speech is becoming more censored. What is WRONG is now RIGHT and being forced on us through legislation. He might be coming for us sooner that we know.

      BTW tonight is a RED MOON too!

  • johnnywood

    “GOD and the Gay Christian”? Sodomite,(gay) Christian is oxymoron. I Cor.6: 9-11, “…..And such WERE some of you, but you were washed, but you were justified in the name of the LORD JESUS and by the SPIRIT of our GOD.” Next case, you may step down.

    • Ned

      Yes, allot of people miss that KEY WORD – “were”.

      Yes, with God’s help they can change back to being NORMAL and live a HAPPY life. They are anything but “gay”. Yes they hijacked the word and make a mockery of that too. They are desperate. They can NOT TOLERATE rejection or correction. In truth, the majority of them HATE God. Or if they don’t hate Him, clearly He is not important enough to them for they to OBEY Him and seek His help to resolve their emotional issues and live a normal life as a heterosexual.

  • Marlin208

    I don’t care how many they marry, God said it is an abomination and that ends it.
    It is HIS word not mine.
    I love how these activists spout off about what God meant when they have never studied a bible.
    He meant exactly what he said, it is an abomination.

  • EDWARD MIKAN

    GOD ‘S WORD DOES NOT AGREE WITH THIS JERKS BOOK!!!! END OF STORY!!!! U S ARMY VETERAN

    • Ned

      God never has and never will endorse perversion. God is the same yesterday and today. He is eternal. Homosexuality is something He CONSISTENTLY condemns – Old and New Testament. He won’t be changing His mind on that to suit our ever lowering social mores or to make the FEEL BETTER about being perverts. It didn’t work in Sodom and Gomorrah and it won’t work in the U.S..

      He designed us so carefully with love and care. This is a total perversion of what He did. The parts don’t fit and never will. They can get genital surgery and still their adams apple and DNA scream the gender that God assigned them. God doesn’t make mistakes.

      If it weren’t so sad it would be humorous. In fact it USED to be – Monty Python….To see a male ACTING like a “wife” and a female acting like a “husband” is still shocking to me. They try to IMITATE a normal heterosexual relationship. When you read about them, they typically have VERY dysfunctional home lives and abuse – sexual or emotional. They are walking emotional time bombs and have a very HIGH suicide rate.

    • http://www.lesbiansinmysoup.com/ Katy

      They train to type in all caps in the Army, or did you manage that on your own?

  • lilij

    The Queen James Bible – A Gay Bible
    The Queen James Bible is a bible translation edited to prevent homophobic misinterpretation of God’s Word. The Queen James Bible seeks to resolve interpretive ambiguity in the
    Bible as it pertains to homosexuality: We edited those eight verses in a
    way that makes homophobic interpretations impossible.

    Available at Amazon.com… Came out a year or two ago… The False teachers, false prophets and Spirit of the Anti Christ are much at work destroyning God’s Truth with lies just as Satan convinced Eve and Adam to eat of the apple…

    • Ned

      There is NO ambiguity on where God stands ob homosexuality in either the New or the Old Testament! Lies may make them FEEL BETTER but the TRUTH is what will set them free with the help of Christ. Yes, they can mock God and ridicule the POWER of prayer through snippy sayings like “pray the gay away” however Christ will help anyone overcome their EMOTIONAL ISSUE acted out sexually. Many have turned around and now lead NORMAL heterosexual lives with kids – totally happy!

      What I don’t understand is WHY is a “Christian” publisher printing LIES. Yes, even a publisher will have to account for what they do.

      Interestingly there is a RED MOON tonight …. the Bible speaks of that too …..

    • Panors77

      Obviously can’t really call it a “translation” can one? I see no ambiguity in the many books of the Bible, and we have the manuscript evidence going back thousands of years to back up what we have today.

  • Eric Haulenbeek

    I’m fine with both the ESV and the King James versions of the Bible. I’m not interested in the least as to what Mr. Barber thinks I need to know regarding the homosexual agenda and scripture. Additions to these scriptures is both a sacrilege and unnecessary!

  • barney

    God will not be mocked& this jerk is not a Christian in no way….

  • sandraleesmith46

    The fact that it was “necessary” to “threaten” employees shows the vile nature of this, as all the rest of the propaganda about this perverse behavior! The effort to corrupt yet another formerly Bible-supporting business, and worse to so alter the Bible itself as to expunge God’s Word on the subject, or at the very least “sanitize” it to say something God never even suggested, in their efforts to make their perverse, learned behavioral choices APPEAR acceptable to God, and thus force them on gullible “Christians” who don’t KNOW God’s Word really, and are actually following “another Jesus” anyway, and the churches they follow, to destroy more souls for their true master, the father of LIES: Satan!

  • DetroitRock

    Yet another example of corrupt, sexually deviant behavior! I just don’t get what they think? It’s their opinion that they can willingly challenge the “Words of God”, Himself? Really?
    I’ve got news for them, and it’s not going to be “pretty” for those that mock God, will suffer, and dearly!

  • Researcher

    What you should remember that the Bible was written by men, “divinely inspired.” The diseases of homosexuality have always been the same.The obvious outcomes of what we now know as hepatitis and bacterial infections would have been seen as God’s punishment for homosexuality. That is the source for the Bible’s condemnation of it.

    The thing that should strike you is that with all the information available the latest statistics on new Aids infections reported have dropped only 30%. (Google those statistics for yourself.) It means that there are homosexuals who are so addicted to skin on skin contact without protective barriers that they will perform these lethal encounters until they contract a fatal disease and die. How is that not mental illness” Just asking.

    • Erin Ashley Hedges

      Why should a gay guy have to marry a woman he’s not happy with over a man he loves deep down in his heart?

      • Researcher

        You missed the point. There is no legal basis for same sex marriage. There is no civil right issue because the Constitution does not recognize groups, only the individual. There are only two sexes, male and female. Each individual, male or female has identically the same rights. Again there is no civil rights issue.

        You also mistake the impact of the law as limited to gay marriage. The law would allow any two people to marry, gay or not. That destroys marriage. How could any one determine before issuing a license that the two people appearing for it are gay?

        You are creating an issue through sympathy for bizarre homosexual behaviors. No such issue exists in law.

        To grant rights for marriage to homosexual behaviors you have to change the meaning of the word, marriage. Where is there any issue in law where the judge begins by changing the meaning of the words at issue?

        When you mock law in this manner the system begins to have conflicts. One of these conflicts is the interference with other’s rights to the free practice of religion.

        What is being demanded is that everyone ascribe to behaviors that are essentially an unrecognized form of mental illness.

        Americans do everything because of two reasons, they can and they want to. That does not create the right to force everyone else to ascribe to, essentially participate in, same-sex fantasies.

        This has devolved into the thought police with advocate groups demanding performance by unwilling participants.

        • Erin Ashley Hedges

          How could anybody determine before issuing two straigh people a license for a regular marriage, either? By the way, your argument has never actually happened outside of one very stupid Adam Sandler movie. You automatically assume that the only definition of marriage is the one written in your book, despite the fact that every religion. including atheism, has marriage. You first try to say it’s only for procreation, which invalidates the marriages of thousands of barren women, then you try to say it’s purely religious, which invalidates the marriages of anybody who doesn’t believe in god. Your argument comes from nothing more than misinformed bias

          • Nun Ya Business

            Marriage is rooted in religion. Just another thing that homosexuals have no respect for and want to corrupt. Perhaps they should seek to keep civil unions and have them acknowledged for tax and survivorship purposes instead of seeking to corrupt an ancient and sacred religious practice.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Religion has no place in law. This is actually documented in the constitution. Marriage is a bonding of two adult human beings with deep love for one another. There doesn’t need to be anything religious about it.

          • Panors77

            Hah…funny. Tell that to your muslim friends who want to instill sharia law here in the States. lol. By the way….the “book” you refer to is actually 66 books written hundreds of years apart from each other and hundreds of years apart from each other going back about 5000 years. But continue in your denial….heh.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Ag4e of the book doesn’t matter When trying to verify it’s authenticity, it actually makes it much harder. Also, nobody in the US is trying to impose sharia law, otherwise the gay rights decisions would have been shot down almost instantly. Any attempt to pass sharia-like laws would be immediately met with failure.

          • Bob Crawford

            ….and the law has no place in religion. Marriage is a union of a man and a woman blessed by God. Anything else is a civil union. Homosexuals can only have a civil union and God cannot unite that which He did not plan to unite. So while on the subject of law and religion, let’s get the government our of our religious lives and stop forcing people of faith to purchase that which is against our religious faith.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Christian marriage, maybe. But not all marriage is christian. So we can’t define all marriage by the standards of one practice

          • Researcher

            I don’t know how to respond to nonsense and your misstatement of my previous posts.

            Every living thing on this planet exists for a single unified purpose. reproduction. Without reproduction nothing exists.

            I did not ever say marriage was only for reproduction or that sex was only for reproduction. I don’t know where you got that.

            But, using that universal reason for existence, over millions of years everything you are and have has been evolved and shaped for opposite sex attraction. Again, your reason for existing. When an altered mental state for same sex attraction exists, something has gone seriously wrong.

            Americans can do whatever they want, love anyone they want, but it is wrong to attempt to force others to accept and participate in nonsense homosexual fantasies.

            There are books by homosexual researchers pointing out that the situation in the United States related to homosexuality is unique, and has not existed before anywhere, at any time. The researcher states he doesn’t know what the cause is but it is not that these homosexuals were ‘born that way.’ Evidence does not bear out the “born that way” hypothesis. The approximate frequency of homosexuality is roughly the same as mental illness suggesting a common cause for both. In other words homosexuality is a previously unexplained form of mental illness.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Gay people have existed for thousands of years, and homosexuality is documented in hundreds of different animal species, not just for dominance, either

          • Panors77

            So have pedofiles and beastists…..doesn’t mean it’s right or correct. I highly doubt your animal species point too.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            What is it with you people making that comparison constantly? How is two adults having sex in the privacy of their own bedroom anything like child rape or animal sex?

          • Researcher

            “not just for dominance, either” You read animal minds, do you? The equating of sexual drive to mount anything warm in animals does not equal the claimed “love” of homosexuals claiming the right to marry.

            Your posts are so far off point that I suspect you are actually a child pretending to be an adult.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            So romantic love between two men or two women is totally impossible, then?

          • Researcher

            That’s not the issue. There are psychiatric cases where someone professed love for inanimate objects. It usually manifests in fetishes. The subject is unable to perform without the use of inanimate objects, female shoes, underwear, etc. They actually engage sex acts with these objects. These behaviors are called paraphilias. But the American Psychiatric Association has a politically correct definition of homosexuality and does not classify it as a paraphilia.

            But no one should be forced to participate in homosexual fantasies, particularly by performing services to facilitate them. That is one outcome of mocking law by granting rights to bizarre sexual behaviors. You step on other people’s rights to the free exercise of civil rights.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            A human being is not an inanimate object. Your whole argument is based around the idea that it is. Homosexuality is not paraphilia, as it is between human partners. Try again

          • Researcher

            Can you not read English and understand valid discourse?

            Pedophilia, zoophilia, sexual sadism, and exhibitionism are all paraphilias. So is homosexuality except for the politically correct system used to define mental illness.

            It doesn’t matter if the paraphilia is between two humans as with the ones I list above. When people share a common delusion it is called Folie a’ Deux. With paired homosexuality they share a common fantasy. It does not improve the psychiatric condition that two people share it.

            Again, your posts are so off point there is no reason to continue to respond. You do not know what you are writing about but that does not prevent your posting nonsense.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            I’ve grown up with what I’m writing about, actually. paraphilia is an attraction to an object. if attraction as a whole was paraphilia, straight people fall under that category as well. why is it such a problem to you if I like to sleep with my partner in our own bedroom? It doesn’t affect you. We were never going to have kids, so it doesn’t affect anybody other than us. Why do you have to focus on the sex so much, if you never take part in it? It’s not hurting you, or anybody else, for that matter.

          • Researcher

            Again nonsense, nonsense, nonsense. In fact off point nonsense. No one cares what you and your partner do. No one! The discussion is that what everyone does care about is when you attempt to force others to participate in your fantasy using the force of law. How many times must I repeat that for you to acknowledge the problem.

            You have yet to address it.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            We don’t force anybody to take part in anything. To think we do is completely retarded, when all we do is remind the public that any law passed in favor of any singular religious belief is, at it’s core, illegal.

          • Researcher

            There are cases of record for bakers and flower shop owners who differ from your statement.

            You deny the obvious record of lawsuits. That makes me think you are an Internet Troll with no same sex partner, just a desire to argue nonsense. If you don’t make anyone do anything through lawsuits, take your nonsense and go away.

          • Researcher

            Anyone reading that last post can Google Paraphilia and realize you are making up the nonsense you post.

        • Panors77

          “formerly” recognized form of mental illness. The psychiatrists caved to political pressure from the gay lobby.

          • Researcher

            That is correct but the reason they caved is because psychiatrists don’t know what mental illness is. VisionAndPsychosis.Net.

      • mark

        No one’s forcing him to get married if he doesn’t want to. And he’s free to have a loving relationship with a man if he wants. But if he DOES want to get married ( which he has the right to do) he has to obey Gods’ rules for marriage.

        • Erin Ashley Hedges

          A christian marriage, maybe. but marriage isn’t specifically for christians, it never has been. God’s rules for marriage have no impact on the legal definition of marriage in the US, it legally can’t

  • monacall

    God will punish, I feel sorry for him.

  • gmhunt4

    Vines is a false prophet……..

  • ???

    Gays can go back to the closet where they belong and take their gay rights BS with them. All this Gay Right garbage has done is pollute society. With their agenda forcing employers to hire gays, The Gays will not be evaluated on their work performance but on sexuality.

    • Erin Ashley Hedges

      That’s not actually happening, though. Since when did it become acceptable to get rid of someone over what they do in the privacy of their own bedroom, far away from prying eyes?

      • jgeorgia2000

        You just justified most of our disgust with the activists. I don’t say get back in the closet, but I, and many others, are fed up with anyones’ personal sexual activities. I don’t start every conversation, commitment or political discussion by telling everyone that I’m heterosexual and every f@@king one within my space had better like me.

        • Erin Ashley Hedges

          We don’t tell people about our lives in the bedroom, you idiots just can’t stop thinking about it. By the way, most of the time, the only reason a gay person comes out is for a couple reasons. Either they trust you as a confidential friend who won’t go blabbing to everyone they know about it, or they’re already experiencing some form of workplace hostility, and they need it to stop

          • Wes

            I’m a little confused about your second reason given for homosexuals “coming out”. To clarify, you said a homosexual might come out because he’s experiencing workplace hostility. But what would that have to do with his sexual orientation, especially if no one even yet knows he’s homosexual? Why would that make him want to come out?

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Part of it involves people stopping the harassment knowing it would get them in even worse trouble after the person came out.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            For me, my reason for coming out as trans at work was a matter of personal health. There is no real suitable treatment outside of hormones and transition for a transgender person, but having to hide a life that would eventually force it’s way out into the open anyways was causing great mental distress, to the point of near suicide on a weekly basis. All from fear of what the company would do if they found out. I did it on my own terms, and ended up being far better suited for the position working as a woman, as who I had always really been, instead of working under the lie I had spent my whole life living. In short, there are a great deal of reasons for coming out, the two I offered were just a couple. Many of us, as I stated just now, do it to find a better state of mind, knowing coworkers are mature enough to accept that which is different.

          • 2Shadow2

            Most people have been doing this with the handicapped and special needs people for years. But then, those folks have never really tried to jam a lifestyle in our faces as hard as the homosexual lobbies have over the past 45 years.

          • Wes

            That makes a moderate amount of sense. So what you’re telling me is that you aren’t homosexual, you’re transgendered?

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Technically both. I’m actually lesbian trans. Kind of kills the argument that I only do this to feel better about sex with men, I guess

          • Wes

            So…. that makes you straight, correct? A person born with XY chromosomes for the 23rd pair and a masculine corpus callosum who is sexually attracted to females? (I’m honestly not trying to offend you by asking, I’m just curious.)

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            No, makes me lesbian. In case you’ve never heard this before, a study was conducted that showed the brain patterns of trans women to be in line with the desired gender. Mentally, we are female, and have been so since the day we were born. It’s a matter of the mind not matching the body, and as conversion therapy more often than not does more harm than good mentally, the only realistic choice is transition. There’s a lot more to it than just dressing up in woman’s clothes, tossing on a dress and a bit of make up, and saying “I feel like being a girl today”. There’s irreversable medical procedures that are done, years of mental counseling performed by some of the top members of the psychology field, and years of hormone treatment. I’m not biologically female, but I’m all woman at the core of my soul. so no, I can’t really call myself straight

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            If you’re honestly curious, I’m more than happy to discuss this with you. Just be somewhat respectful

          • Bob Crawford

            The whole transgendered stuff helps the argument that homosexuality is a choice. Two women claim to be lesbians and are in a relationship. So the one decides she is going to become a he. So now the relationship is a man and a woman. So if the lesbian stay with the now man, it is now a heterosexual relationship. But wait, I thought the one stayed a lesbian. Well no more. So it helps prove it is a choice and not something you are born as.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            I was born a boy. I transitioned and now live full time as a woman. I am dating another woman. as a boy I was straight, as a woman, I am a lesbian. Like I said, kind of kills the notion that I did this just to feel better about sex with men, doesn’t it?

          • Nun Ya Business

            Or because they identify themselves solely by whom they do in the bedroom instead of as just another human being, like most heterosexuals do. Funny how we don’t see too many asexual activists coming out and demanding acceptance for their non-sexual lifestyle. The fact of the matter is, the gay people are the ones making everything an issue now. They don’t want equal rights, they want more rights and protections than other members of society. And then they want to be able to be bigoted against religious individuals and try to deny them of their rights to freely practice their religion and harass them about it when they choose to.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            How is asking to be able to get married just like everybody else in American society asking for more rights? How is asking that people not get in our faces and scream at us for being different asking for more rights than others? How is asking for laws preventing people from harassing LGBT community members to suicide asking for more rights? We only want to be able to be safe in our own homeland without being chased out of towns with pitchforks and torches, and I can think of a few towns in the deep south that would do just that

          • Just Saying

            This is all lies, and you know it. How is taking people’s businesses away from them if they don’t do what the gays want them to OK? How is it forcing private businesses to cater to your kind OK? Wht can’t you take your business elswhere, and leave it at that? And you don’t want marriage because that would give you the rights you pretend you want. Those could be had in a civil contract. You want marriage because you want the world to proclaim that you are normal, and if you destroy this institution and make everybody the same, then you have achieved normalcy, and legitimacy in your eyes. Nothing will make homosexuality normal, no matter what you do. Take Christ out of the equation, what you are doing is not natural, never will be. Otherwise, we don’t need 2 sexes, we would multiply by other means.
            You can rationalize it all you want, it’s wrong. And you know it.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            So people aren’t being harrassed to suicide in the US? There aren’t conservastives making death threats against gay people? How much you want to bet I can prove you wrong with just one link?

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            I’m going to ask one simple thing of you before I leave this conversation for good. Think for yourself on this subject. Do research on both sides of the argument, and let yourself come up with the best possible answer, not anybody else. Put all religious beliefs aside for just a few minutes, and actually think for yourself. Christians ask me to do this all the time when trying to convert me, and it always leads to the same conclusion of “I can’t possibly believe this stuff”. So give it a try. I don’t just take everything I read at face value, I research it as much as possible to have the best opinion I can have of my own. So do the same thing.

          • Bob Crawford

            I believe in equality. Any man can marry any woman. Period. That is marriage. Anything else is really a civil contract.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            You don’t get to define all marriage just by your one belief.

          • Just Saying

            You cannot believe in God, but you believe that sodomy and whatever else you do is normal? How so? I think we have this prolonged disscussion because everybody is focusing on how poor gays are the victims, but not on what they actually do. Which is an unatural perversion.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Again with the assumption that I’m atheist. So it’s too much to ask of you to think for yourself instead of offering standard copy-paste answers to everything, then. I see.

          • Bob Crawford

            But we have a government that tells us what healthcare to purchase, how we can or cannot defend ourselves, what we can do or not do with our private land, where we can stand for protests if we can protest, not being able to protest around the president or risk arrest, what we can drive, what light bulbs we can buy, what we can eat, what our children learn, that we must violate our religious beliefs to suit the government….and there is a lot more of what government tells us to do in our private lives.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            And none of that has anything to do with someone’s right to be happy with the adult they love

      • ???

        I did not imply to get rid of them. They are a part of society and have always been. Whatever they do in their own bedroom, is their business and they can keep it there. Nobody has to or should know. It should be private between them and their partner. All of these radical gay groups are trying to expose their perversity onto young children in schools . This is wrong for the straights as well.

      • Nun Ya Business

        As a heterosexual, I don’t go around and demand that everyone notice my lifestyle. They are not keeping it behind closed doors anymore, “away from prying eyes.” Are you that out of touch with reality? Google “gay pride parade”

        • Erin Ashley Hedges

          Gay pride is a once a year thing. The overwhelming majority of us are fairly normal people every other week of the year

          • GramE

            If so, what happened to the Mozilla CEO?

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            He donated money to a group that actively does everything it can to push religion into places it doesn’t belong, and was boycotted by the LGBT community. Is it much different to what the conservatives did boycotting the GSA cookies?

          • 2Shadow2

            The GSA cookie thing was more about abortion than homosexuality.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            I saw a lot of people start boycotting because they hired a lesbian. But still, it basically amounts to some level of hypocrisy, bad-mouthing us for boycotting one company because they disagree with us, but doing the same yourselves.

          • 2Shadow2

            It goes around and it comes around. Big time.The venom flying out of the homosexual agenda especially to Chi-fil-et and the sponsors of the St Patrick’s Day parade (Catholic League), as examples, is truly damaging the gains made in the past 45 years. The first woman at the Citadel had a long hard road and why anyone would try to break into an all male school is questionable. Understand, that what you describe is illegal on any national level and I have seen many people reverse discriminated against though the use of the protected class laws. I have never seen these laws enforced if the accused was homosexual and the victim hetero. The military is currently suffering horribly from a social experiment to gain “more diversity”. The bulk of the sexual abuse charges are male on male. Believe it or not.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            The military rape cases are more a matter of straight domination in 90% of the cases, not unlike domination being the primary cause of male/female rape. the military is actually doing quite a bit better morale wise after the repeal

          • 2Shadow2

            Rape is rape irrespective of who’s on top. Doing quite a bit better, by whose standards? The service academies are plagued with sexual assault cases. That never used to be the case under don’t ask don’t tell. When demand is made to accept unconditionally a lifestyle that not really biologically logical instead of just tolerate it and deal with it, you have problems. The military is not doing quite a bit better, and I am second generation military and my son is third. He says is out of control, as is the total defiance of minorities to authority and the chain of command being shackled to not discharge such personnel. Don’t ask don’t tell, was actually a very workable solution for a long time. But as usual, enough is never enough for radical lobbyists.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            The whole reason we pushed for an end to DADT was because soldiers in monogamous relationships were getting discharged just for the partner they had off duty. The repeal was pushed for so that lifetime couples could finally get the same military benefits that straight married couples could get, without getting discharged for getting gay married. There’s more to this than just trying to force acceptance. Some families were being refused survivor benefits for lost loved ones just because the marriage wasn’t recognized. The repeal was for people like them.

          • 2Shadow2

            Really? Many more suffer for a few isolated cases. Not all states accept gay marriage and there is no reason for the military to have to jump into it. Domestic partnerships should accommodate the issues but like I said previously why does the gay community and to crash a party they are not wanted. Is it just political or because enough will never be enough until everyone is homosexual.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            So you really believe gays are trying to convert everybody on the planet. How cute. Yep, you caught us, we’re trying to turn everybody gay so that we can bring about mass extinction. You’re absolutely right. That’s a far more plausible reason than the possibility that we only want to be happy and treated like every other human being in this country

          • Bob Crawford

            Survivor benefits for homosexuals is idiotic. Survivor benefits were meant for a female spouse to continue being able to raise children. Two capable men in a civil union, if one is killed in war, there are no children to take care of (or at least there should not be as children with homosexual couples are twice as likely to be sexually abuse than when they are with heterosexual married parents) so the “partner” should get up off his/her a$$ and get a job and support themselves….oh wait, that’s right, with the Democrats now, everyone is expected to get a government handout from the rest of us left working.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Care to do some fact checking on that? Cause there is no actual documented evidence saying gay parents have higher abuse rates than straight parents whatsoever:

            http://www.bu.edu/today/2013/gay-parents-as-good-as-straight-ones/

            For your argument to be valid, straight couples shouldn’t get survivor benefits unless they have children, either. But wait, that would be infringing upon their rights as a married couple, right?

          • Bob Crawford

            I agree homosexuals should be in the military. Let them do the fighting as we have a lot of men and women who are married and trying to raise families. Homosexuals do not have the same constraints. It’s a win/win for all.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            A lot of gays have the exact same situation. Don’t try to fool yourself.

          • Bob Crawford

            I like how homosexual want everyone our of the bedroom, but they want to impose their immorality on a religious celebration as with St. Patrick’s Day. The old liberal double standard.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Saint Patrick’s day isn’t a religious celebration anymore, get over yourself

          • Bob Crawford

            That is your opinion. To those who celebrate it, it is a religious celebration.

          • Robbins Mitchell

            Liar….they hired a guy who was pretending to be a “lesbian” as their PR spokes”person”

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Really? They didn’t hire an open married lesbian as activities director, a fact pointed out on this very site?

          • Bob Crawford

            A civil union lesbian. Marriage is for men and women as in one marrying the other.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            The legal definition of marriage cannot be based off religious reference, it is unconstitutional. I could provide the exact clause that makes it so.

          • Bob Crawford

            True because normal people do not want children brainwashed into thinking homosexuality is normal since it is not.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            We’re not calling it normal, we’re pointing out there is nothing wrong with sexually active people being attracted to others of the same sex

          • 2Shadow2

            That is certainly not what happened with the St Patrick’s Day parade last month. And the White Party goes off the charts in Palm Springs every year for at least a week and many Thurdays throughout the year.

          • celticwaryor

            There is nothing normal about homosexuality…PERIOD!

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            The only thing different is the sex, and you only ever seenm to focus on that. Since we don’t actually discuss our sex lives, it’s perfectly normal to assume that you’re vividly imagining the sex acts. By your own free will. And yet you wonder why gay people accuse so many conservatives of being gay themselves. If it disgusts you so much, why do you think about it so much? It’s not that hard to stop

          • Bob Crawford

            And the fact that homosexuals cannot reproduce the species.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Which makes the assumption that we’re trying to turn everyone gay even more retarded. how is it remotely plausible for people to believe gays are trying to destroy the human race? So what if a minority can’t have children? There are far more infertile people than there are gay people, but they’re allowed to marry

          • Bob Crawford

            But you are trying to convince homosexuality is normal and it is not. There is NO “gay gene” and the closest anyone has come to understanding it, is that it is a mental defect or chemical imbalance. As I previously stated, I don’t care if homosexuals have a civil union, but marriage is just between a man and a woman, as anything else is not marriage.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Chemical imbalance being the most likely out of all possibilities. And since it is being detected in the womb, it kind of ruins the whole “homosexual attraction is a choice” argument, doesn’t it?

          • SallyOMalley

            “Eight major studies of identical twins in Australia, the U.S., and Scandinavia during the last two decades all arrive at the same conclusion: gays were not born that way.” Anyone can use their search engine to find more information. The idea presented by Erin is merely an idea/hypothesis and has never been proved.

          • Sabrina H

            The problem is that what they demand. As a Christian we are told to turn away from sin not embrace it as the LGBT expects us to do. GOD loves the person, but not the sin and their act is the sin they want us to accept. No can do.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            But not everybody is christian. You can’t just apply your personal religious beliefs to the entire human race.

          • Bob Crawford

            True, but God’s desires cross all faiths. Not believing in God does not believe He does not exists and does not negate He expects us to follow His commandments.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            I never said I don’t believe in god, I just don’t believe in your god

          • Bob Crawford

            No, the other things different are the attraction to the same sex, men dressing as women, women dressing as men, using body parts for purposes other than what nature intended, and the inability to reproduce the species. Yeah, other than that, homosexuals are the same ;-)

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Don’t confuse transsexuality with homosexuality. The two are not one and the same

        • 2Shadow2

          My suggestion to the NFL and NCAA after the ridiculous media hype over Michael Sam “coming out” before the NFL draft was that all hetero football players should do the same and demand equal coverage. Why not?

      • Bob Crawford

        Yup just like government imposing fines for not buying insurance. They are forcing people to violate their religious beliefs. Get government out of our lives period. The Democrats want to control everything. We’ve already learned how they intercept all our emails, text messages, etc.

        • Erin Ashley Hedges

          Get government out of our lives, unless they’re passing laws that would only suit us christians, then it’s perfectly ok

          • disqus_ZpX9Ihsn7w

            Actually following the Constitution for a change would be a good start.

          • Erin Ashley Hedges

            Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

            Congress has no right to make laws solely based off one religion over another. They are also not allowed to prohibit personal worship. This means a two-fold argument against you. Your “christian nation” cannot exist by law, and as such, no laws are to be religiously based. Also, while personal worship is not to be infringed upon, some issues, like getting in someone’s face and screaming your beliefs at them is not personal worship, it’s pure hate. Bullying someone who goes against your religion is not personal worship, as Mississippi seems to believe, but again, hate. You want people to follow the constitution? Stop trying to force everybody to be christians. Those of us who aren’t, don’t want to be.

  • Randy131

    Tell me, where in the Bible does it talk about GOD and the Gay Christian?

  • dunc

    get the concept straight .marriage was created by religion .its is an institution based on procreation and the family ,you think what you will as you want to. edison invented the light bulb .no he didn’t the easter bunny did.. and by the way kangaroos are now called rabbits . marriage is now for love .not family .relativism is the social killer invented by pathological layers and politicians /social engineers.2+2 = 7 in non locality .

  • Chauncey Freeman

    When fascism comes to America it will be carrying a pink swastika wrapped in a rainbow flag. And it has come. Beware the enemy within. And in this case, also beware the enema within.

    The Apostle Paul’s letters to the Romans:

    “16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

    18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

    19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

    20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

    21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

    22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

    23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

    24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

    25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

    29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

    30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

    31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

    32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.”–Romans 1:16-32 KJV

    • Robbins Mitchell

      “When fascism comes to America,it will do so in the guise of an ‘anti-fascist’ political party”

      ~Gov. Huey P. Long~

  • Robbins Mitchell

    This guy needs to read my ground breaking books on the subject..”The Sexual Inadequacies of the Fag Pee Pee” and “Faggotry Can Be Cured”….it clears up a lot of misconceptions about this particular developmental defect

    • Erin Ashley Hedges

      How did your post even make it onto the feed with that much slur use?

  • Donna Lampkin

    A truly Christian publishing Co. would not be publishing this book. You either believe what the Bible says or you don’t. I wouldn’t buy anything they print.

    • Bob Crawford

      I believe in what God says. The Word of God predates the Bible. God’s Word is not subject to interpretation, but as we have found with the Bible, everyone interprets it to suit their own beliefs and lifestyles thanks to Martin Luther.

  • Thomas J.Stratford

    The only argument RE homosexuality in the Gospels, is that there are no such things as homosexual Christians.

    • Erin Ashley Hedges

      That’s never actually said

      • William Hudson

        However, the Bible, inspired by God’s Holy Spirit whom Christ sent, in
        1 Corinthians states that homosexuals (among other groups) will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Therefore, they cannot be identified as Christians. This is referring to those who have embraced the homosexual lifestyle and are without repentance. Of course all of us sinners (including former unrepentant homosexuals) who have come to Christ with repentance and a change of heart and mind in obedience to God (rebirth) will be saved, according to the Bible. This Truth, despite all of the rationalization by many cannot be honestly denied.

        • Erin Ashley Hedges

          It’s referring to sodomites, not homosexuals. Sodomites are men who rape other men, and woman, for their own pleasure. Do not confuse this with homosexuality. By the way, there is precedence, the whole concept of the sodomite comes from the men of Sodom, who wished to rape the angels who came to the city. average gay sex in no way equals that, there usually isn’t any rape involved. Now. If I believed in hell, I would definitely say sodomites go to hell, that’s what rapists deserve. but we are not rapists.

        • Erin Ashley Hedges

          By the way, by standard definition of sodomy, anything outside of missionary is considered sodomy. So I really hope you and your wife don’t like oral, cause that’s sodomy too.

      • Native Texan

        1Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the
        kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters,
        nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
        10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor
        extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some
        of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified
        in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

        Such WERE some of you.

        That
        said, I can agree with the statement that there are those who are
        TEMPTED to engage in homosexuality and use the promise of God that He
        will provide a way of escape to refuse to engage in it, just as there
        are those that refuse to return to alcohol or to a life of crime. Being
        tempted is not sin; giving in to it is.

        • Erin Ashley Hedges

          so remind me again why people who don’t believe in your system of beliefs should be forced to follow them anyways? After all, you guys get so angry when we try to “convert people” by spreading a message of tolerance.

  • Sylvester Jones

    God’s take on gays in His Inspired Word, the Bible, Genesis 19:5, Leviticus 18:22 & 20:13, Romans 1:6-7, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, 1 Timothy 1:8-11, Jude 1:7 and how many homosexuals on Noahs Ark?

  • Allen Tucker

    Matthew Vines has been discredited by a wide variety of scholars. James
    White did a great job of eviscerating Vine’s arguments in a 5 hour
    dissection of a 45 minute Vines lecture. You can find it here:
    http://www.aomin.org/aoblog/index.php/2012/05/23/gay-christianity-refuted/

    White brings up a number of points. The most important to a
    publisher such as Convergent is the fact that Vines makes frequent use
    of arguments already brought forth in books written by the homosexual
    apologists Boswell and Countryman. To my knowledge Vines is not giving
    any citation for these works.

  • John Stratemeyer

    Go ahead and publish it. I won’t read it.

  • gloria

    Any justification for homosexuality does not come from the real Bible, but from one’s own twisted perversion of the scriptures. The prophet Isaiah warned God’s people when they went astray. Excerpt is from Isaiah chpt 5
    [15] Man is bowed down, and men are brought low, and the eyes of the haughty are humbled. [16] But the LORD of hosts is exalted in justice, and the Holy God shows himself holy in righteousness… [18] Woe to those who draw iniquity with cords of falsehood, who draw sin as with cart ropes, … [20] Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness,
    who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! [21] Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, and shrewd in their own sight! [22] Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine, and valiant men in mixing strong drink, [23] who acquit the guilty for a bribe, and deprive the innocent of his right! [24] Therefore, as the tongue of fire devours the stubble, and as dry grass sinks down in the flame, so their root will be as rottenness, and their blossom go up like dust; for they have rejected the law of the LORD of hosts, and have despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.

  • tidewatertilly

    Folks, all the going back and forth will not influence Erin Ashley Hodges. She has her views just like we have ours. Maybe she is on here to prevoke and annoy but she is on this site. To those of us who believe homosexuality is an abomination and wrong, this book is put out to outrage us and to put an approval stamp on what the Bible views as sin. It is looking to justify a lifestyle that many a good person who never harmed a soul needs to hear to give them a way to justify their lifestyle and it is also a way to God. So many people like us point a finger and say “Sinner!” We are not accepting of them and indeed push them into the view that Christians hate them. To some, this way of life has always been a part of them. They have never known a time where they haven’t felt different or like a monster with two heads because they have feelings for another of their own sex. I have my questions about just how certain people come out feeling they were gay at birth. I don’t think I will understand until I get to ask God myself in heaven. I am here to tell Erin that God loves her. Jesus died for her as well. It is not up to us to revile her. God will judge sinners all, at the judgement. I trust Him to know His job. If a person seeks God to reveal Himself to him or her, He will. He will lead them to all truth and he can heal. There is a way to God for everyone if they seek Him with their whole hearts. This goes for everyone. I am not so much for the “gay agenda”, I am for the “people agenda”. I am against any group of people who are discriminated against, race, religion, or sexual preference. We are all Americans. Stop all this special group crap. Black rights, gay rights, white rights etc. No one is “that special”. I don’t like setting one group of people up against another. If I don’t agree with your lifestyle, I don’t want to be made to “have to accept it by having laws made. This is what is being done with the gay agenda as well as other groups. Not everyone is going to like everyone else and agree all the time, Get over it!

  • lfhpueblo

    Just don’t purchase anything they publish anymore. They’ll feel their choice financially. They’ll also probably lose many trained employees who will quit.

  • gonepostal

    Can’t be both, Christian and homosexual.

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