SOCIAL ENGINEER THIS: Greta Sledgehammers Trayvon’s Family Attorney’s ‘Social Engineering’ Nonsense
VAN SUSTEREN: You’re a lawyer, right?
RAND: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: And the whole point of the jury is that we assign the job to weigh the facts. We draft them. We make them sit there. Lot of times, they don’t want to be there. We then present the evidence, and the judge then says, Here’s the evidence, here’s the law, instructs them on the law, and it’s your duty — it’s not mine, it’s not yours, it’s not anybody else’s in the community, but it’s the jury’s duty to weigh them. And all of a sudden, suddenly, afterwards, that you say they can’t do their job?
RAND: I have a greater duty beyond being an attorney, and that’s to be a social engineer. And when the law doesn’t get it right, I believe that we have the right to peacefully and morally, conscientiously object to the decision of the jury.
That doesn’t mean that we believe that it’s going to be overturned or that it will or that we don’t respect the decision that those six people made. But there are millions of people out there who don’t agree with that decision. So it’s not just the legal team.
VAN SUSTEREN: You know what the problem is, though? You know, that…
RAND: It’s millions of people…
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RAND: … from all over the world.
VAN SUSTEREN: That’s deeply disturbing that you say millions are out there who didn’t see it! You know and I know that millions of people who may not like a verdict, whether it’s for it or against this case or another, didn’t watch the case, didn’t sit in the courtroom, didn’t weigh the evidence, didn’t listen to jury instructions. That’s just noise. That’s why we have court systems is so that people — so that both sides have an opportunity to be heard.
This social engineering — I don’t know if that’s more like social manipulation than social — I don’t want social engineering is. But actually, justice is presented in the courtroom with a jury deciding it and both sides having an opportunity. That’s justice, and the jury deciding it.
RAND: Courtrooms do not always deliver justice, as I’m sure you well know. You’re aware of the Civil Rights movement. You’re aware of the changes that we had to make…
VAN SUSTEREN: I — you know what? I bet…
RAND: … in the courts historically in this nation…
VAN SUSTEREN: I bet if we put my career up next to yours in terms of Civil Rights and what we’ve done in the courtroom for — for people, I’ll put my career up next to yours any day you want, Jasmine! I just don’t criticize juries.
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