About the author: Steve Pauwels

Steve Pauwels is pastor of Church of the King, Londonderry, NH and managing editor of ClashDaily.com

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  • helioquois

    The Iraq War: Necessary and Justified.

    • sewnsew70

      Only in the minds of deluded neocon imperialists and the sheeple who believe them!

      • TexasJester

        Read your history of what was said at the time, not what your socialist progressive democrat slave handlers want you to know…

      • larrygrant876

        Speaking of deluded, project much dumbo? Your boy Billy Clinton caused this to happen because when these goat molesters tried to blow up the twin towers and put a hole in the U.S.S COLE and other attempts on Americans and American possesions he did nothing giving them the impressions nothing would ever happen, but they guessed wrong when they tried to test George Bush, and I thank God he was in office at such a crucial time in our history. Anyhow obamabot, tell us what brand is on the sole of the boot that is going to come down on your face.

    • obhfwb

      Saying this to anyone in the demon crat party will call you a liar even after they too voted on going into Iraq. Take that piece of human waste john f kerry, I voted for it before I voted against it. And john f kerry was the only one from America to have went to Vietnam.

      • larrygrant876

        … and the first to get a Purple Heart for getting “rice schrapnel” in the butt while trying to run away.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ed-Scott/100002103340101 Ed Scott

          Naw, Kerry got his finger injured.

          • http://www.facebook.com/robert.andersonsr Robert Anderson Sr

            Yah, he forgot to pull it out of his as– before sitting down in a corner !!

        • http://www.facebook.com/robert.andersonsr Robert Anderson Sr

          By looking at him -some must have gotten him in the face ! If he were born that way-his mother should have aborted him !!

          • leewacker

            Kerry is a real live TROLL!

        • leewacker

          I read a story about him shooting a Cong soldier in the back while the man was swimming to shore–I also think—and all this is conjecture—the Cong was wounded.

      • http://www.facebook.com/robert.andersonsr Robert Anderson Sr

        Kerry is a TRAITOR, The ONLY resaon he is in POLITIC’S is his WIFE’S MONEY ! Along with being too lazy to do an actual job !

  • fliteking

    Did you hear the latest?
    Liberals are Blaming Bush for:
    Global Warming
    Global Cooling
    Snow
    HIV / AIDS
    Arab Spring
    Alternative Energy Failures Under Ob*ma
    Ob*maCare
    BenGhazi
    Fast & Furious
    Joe Biden’s Low IQ
    AL Gore’s Even Lower IQ
    Liberal’s Extremely Low IQ’s
    Touré’s Lack of an IQ
    Incontinence
    Alcoholism
    Inventing CRACK

    Seems the Liberals should take credit where credit is due.

    • vapatriot777

      Amen to that fliteking! The trouble is with the growing secular liberal morons like ‘progressives rule’. Obama should be the first one tried and lynched for treasonous policies that have done more to destroy this once great and respected nation than any other before him. He has single handedly returned us to the racial divides of the 50’s and brought us to the brink of a new civil war…and it’s coming!

      • http://www.facebook.com/robert.andersonsr Robert Anderson Sr

        I am ready are all of you ?

    • mtman2

      Thanks!- got a good ‘coughing laugh’ out of this …WE need to laugh or be crying all the time! It is sad but almost true re” my above blog”…yet America is still here, despite the fools, idiots + usurpers.

    • TexasJester

      Love it! Speaking of global cooling, remember when the tree huggers were testifying before congress in the early 1980s, that the CO2 in the air was REFLECTING the sun’s rays back into space, and if we didn’t do something QUICK, we were gonna freeze into a global ice ball???

      • fliteking

        yes, I do recall that episode by the simpleton liberals.

    • obhfwb

      Friend your list could go on forever.

      • fliteking

        Indeed it could, and the more ridiculous the list becomes . . . the more accurate it becomes.

    • http://www.facebook.com/robert.andersonsr Robert Anderson Sr

      Yep , Can’t blame BUSH for the POT SMOKING CRACK HEAD we put in as POTUS though ! IF- 9-11 would have happened after 2008 we ALL WOULD BE DEAD as this POS would have helped them !!!!!!

  • http://ClashDaily.com/ Donald Joy

    Wow, Steve, this crackles with smartly-articulated truth.

    Given the post-9/11 situation, it would have been insanity to allow Saddam to remain. All the leading democrats themselves had been proclaiming for years that he had to be removed by force, and they also voted in favor of the 2003 invasion! Not to mention the umpteen UN resolutions to use force to remove him (finally given meaning and teeth only by Bush and Blair)!

    How shallow are the minds and memories of so many on both sides of the aisle…

  • sewnsew70

    Michael Isikoff and David Corn provide the TRUE account of the fraud and political chicanery that got us into this miserable, deadly, destructive, unnecessary, and wasteful war of American imperialism. Read about it at:

    http://www.amazon.com/Hubris-Inside-Story-Scandal-Selling/product-reviews/030734682X/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

  • mtman2

    It’s odd no one brings up the fact that the UN had 17 resolutions violated by Hussein and the last 4 called for FORCE to be used against him, if he did not comply. -W- went to the UN w/both sides of the aisle in agreement to follow through + comply as the leading member{+-donor} to use force IF he still refused to comply. We knew he murdered over 100,000 Kurds{w/poison gas} + anyone even in disagreement. Hussein was complicit w/terrorist for training there, when is enough enough? When the UN say’s so??? Well, they did, 4 resolutions prior!!! The rest is History…

    • http://FreedomOutpost.com/ Tim Brown

      Just one question. What will be said when the UN decides it will impose sanctions on the US?

      • http://www.facebook.com/robert.andersonsr Robert Anderson Sr

        They won’t because of OBAMA is going to GIVE them what they want-DESTROY OUR COUNTRY !!

      • mtman2

        I figure U knew, WE pay 27% of their bill + give them space to hide out in high paid luxury. Even this level of parasite is smart enough to know who bakes + butters their bread. Even Mao-bama knows he can’t walk over the Constitutional over-ride{packed w/in}. He’s lookin’ though, but impeachment would be the result.

      • leewacker

        Why should they? After all, WE pay nearly all their bills, WE pick up the tab on just about everything they do, and therefore, WHY kill the golden goose—and I DO mean GOOSE–only fools would back the UN, and we have a lot of them–one of which is in the white house!

    • TexasJester

      And let us not forget the convoys of trucks – and several large aircraft – heading into Syria from Iraq in the days leading up to the War? And FINALLY – after a DECADE of me (and a few others) yelling “Saddam sent his weapons to Syria!!”, a retired general stated the other day that’s what happened….

      And after the 17th UN resolution was dissed by Saddam, GW got together with a number of allies (including England and Australia) and got a coalition of over 30 nations on board to enforce the in resolution. Germany, France, and Russia, (along with the US and England made up the in Security Council) said “nah, we ‘re not going to enforce the resolution” – turns out they were on the take from Saddam! GW and allies said “if the UN isn’t going to enforce the resolution we will – otherwise the UN is nothing more than a paper tiger”. And we did.

      • DrSique

        The UN isn’t even toilet paper. However, you have disproved your own point. If the weapons ended up in Syria anyway, what good did it do to invade Iraq. Except maybe to embolden Iran, the real trouble makers in the neighborhood?

        • leewacker

          You do have a point—however, at the time, Saddam was the biggest threat to the world–especially after he claimed to have missiles pointed at none other than Rome, and by extension, the Vatican! Italy at the time was hysterical with fear, and was positive they would be nuked at any moment. Consider for a moment, Nostradamus’ prediction that muslims would sit on the Pope’s throne one day, and one can understand Italy’s concern, to a point!

      • leewacker

        I had several grandsons with the 101st in Iraq, and all of them told the same story of watching big tanker trucks, ostensibly hauling oil across the Syrian border, and wondering if those tankers didn’t actually have cargoes more closely acquainted with WMDs than black gold!
        However, they were under orders NOT to bother the tankers!

    • http://www.facebook.com/robert.andersonsr Robert Anderson Sr

      We also FOUND 4 TRAINING CAMPS of the ALQIUDA (sp) going in ! People forget that ALL of CONGRESS voted along with BUSH to go !! That even means OBAMA ,PELOUSEY,FIENSTEIN & REID !!

    • DrSique

      Yup, the justification for military action was abundant and the world is a little brighter without Saddam in it. However, this author claiming the mantle of conservatism for himself by suggesting that sending young Americans to sacrifice themselves on the altar of freedom for foreign nations is nothing more than a steaming heap of BS. If he is so anxious to be on the front lines, why send others? I bet they would love to give him a rifle in Syria, right effin now. As for me, I’m just pukin’ sick of pseudo-conservatives suggesting that war is proof of being on the right.

      • steve p

        I guess you didn’t read my column. The mission in Iraq was all about America’s security — Saddam provided every reason for us to conclude he was a threat to our well being. Our then-president took his threats seriously and responded appropriately. BTW, no, I don’t believe we should involve ourselves militarily in settling the Syrian civil war. And, for the record, I have/had two sons in the Marine corps, one who served two tours in Iraq, the other who could have easily ended up there or Afghanistan (again, I guess you didn’t bother to read what I wrote.). My oldest boy was shot at by the same villains who’d love to come over here and kill you and me. He served in an honorable but dangerous cause and his mother and I got to prayerfully wait sixteen months for him to return home safely. So please, spare me the lectures about psuedo-conservatism.

        • mtman2

          steve: this is a low-info prowler, not even worth responding to! All lib/progs are very lazy + not interested in doing their homework or difficult math to make sure the “equation” works. 2+2=3 or 5 in their lexicon. What can you say to willful ignorance?

  • http://twitter.com/r1944gmailcom ron

    I stll hear arguments pro and con about the presence of yellow cake. Is is a proven find? and that is where i am stumped. Differences of cIA intelligence have muddied the waters on this and i still find it troubling that the Iraqi war took place because of the expense of it and what it has done to get people like Obama elected, The whole war needs to be taken apart piece by piece to really get a clear view with out all of the political pandering that makes one choose one side or the other. We need the whole truth on this and not just in parts or the world view that is suggesting any thing we become involved in was a failure.

    • mtman2

      ron: I went into it above in answer to Tim Brown, starts with “Well”. Force was -UN- mandated through most of Slick Willies 2nd term. W-Bush just stepped up to the plate because WE’D had enough after 911 + people wanted action on any of these modern day ‘pirate empires’ that state they want , have + are gonna kill us some more. Kudoffy peed his pants + turned all his nuclear programs over to W’s administration! Pakistan did what we asked, Egypt+the Saudis w/many smaller states were also afraid of Hussein + believed W would shut him down + cooperated. Again 1/2 hearted follow through is where the trouble always begins! Equivocation+ vacillation from unknowing naysayers, near-do-wells, 2nd-guessers + busy bodies being allowed to be impediments for political gain. Causing the military faced with ‘clear + present’ dangers to bog down in accomplishing actual purposes with minimal losses to both sides + shortening deployment duration. Hence dragged out missions, -politicians stall on polls pro + con-, “fiddling” while soldiers die + enemies have time reconnoiter while regrouping = no ‘blitz-krieg’ here. While ‘wing-nuts’ like below wish to believe bald-faced lies for truth seeking, sticking to what they “want-to” instead, + are a waste of time to real doers + seekers!!!!

  • David

    I have only one quibble with the author’s analysis….he stated late in his piece that the Jihadists are settled in for a “likely generational conflict.” Wrong. They are there as far as the horizon. It is settled fact, in thought, written word, and action, for some 1,400 years.

  • LeonBerton

    If one wants to praise to the heavens the typical exceptional valor, honor and integrity of men and women who go into brutal conflicts in the name of our beloved republic, that is one thing.
    It is quite another to accept the rationales of any administration for any use of our military on foreign soil, much less sending of them into brutal conflicts where our blood will be spilled and treasure wasted in pursuit of goals that benefit not the common good of this republic, but rather the personal and financial benefit of select sectors of its citizenry.
    And it does little good to cite that hall containing hollow shells of moral integrity, the U.N., to justify any action, with its nose of wax that bends in the direction of self-serving interests on the part of virtually all its representatives.
    Yes, Saddam’s regime deserved to be overturned, as have many others. But it did not necessarily need to be done with our blood and national treasure, nor even in the way it was executed.
    We’ve come a very long way from Washington, Jefferson, Madison et alii.

    • TexasJester

      Short version of some other long posts that I’ve put on here. We and our allies went in to enforce the 17th UN resolution that stated that if Saddam didn’t quit jerking the inspectors around, he would be removed from power, with force if necessary. The UN did nothing. The US and England, as 2 members of the UN Security Council, were adamant that we enforce the resolution, or the UN would be seen as little more than a “paper tiger”. THAT is why we went in. READ YOUR HISTORY AND LISTEN TO WHAT WAS SAID THEN.

    • mtman2

      LOOK, if WE never 1/2 heartedly approached even WWI+ WWII giving in to Communists/Socialists inside + outside our country=meaning WE”D have to be the worlds heavy weight with -NO- UN, never a Versaille, Yalta, N+S Korea, N+S Vietnam etc! But Truman wanted + believed in a United Nations{to replace The League of Nations} as man kinds hope + cure for + from conflict; for HIS legacy{is why HE commited to France to intervene in Indo-China as they blackmailed him or wouldn’t join the preposed UN}. This would mean WE Americans would go back to Teddy Roosevelt motto of “speak softly but carry a big stick” + BACK IT UP. So that the WORLD WOULD KNOW, if we’re coming YOU are gonna lose big + fast + permanently! The half hearted trying to get along w/tyrants/commies/+etc would not be in our lexicon. It would then follow that WE would be BOTH feared + respected but NEVER used. Then Socialist fools like P.R. below + even you well meaning folk above wouldn’t be wasting time by not seeing the forest for the trees. Real history is out there find it! Do real homework, hundreds even thousands of hours, listen to the generation that lived it while they still live…..then formulate truths !For years Ronald Reagan did this{his1964speach is still wall shaking truth}, because he cared deeply for truth, he dug it out + preached it’s truth the rest of his life. He pushed the envelop back into time + the truths of OUR history which lead the way for ANY of us to carry on. But only IF – WE take the challenge + do the time in research, in Love of America + the wise Founders who so bravely put this unrivaled opportunity together for us. The next ” thousand years of darkness” awaits!!!! If the world endures + CHRIST tarries…

      • LeonBerton

        Too bad that the true details of history don’t support the rationales usually given for many of our interventions in places like Vietnam, North Korea, Iraq, and a lot of other places, not to forget whether Stalin ever really intended to conquer Western Europe.
        I would never diminish those who serve or have served in our military. I’ve been there myself.
        But I also would never naively accept the rationales for most interventions this or that administration has given to manipulate our ancestors and ourselves into offering our blood and treasure for disputable objectives, especially when one discerns how flimsy the arguments were concerning whether those actions really conserved the true security of our republic.
        Least of all would approval by the U.N. for any decision make it right or wise.

      • tlc8310

        The UN just like hte democratic party are not the same as when they were started. Real democrats would roll in their grave if they could see what the party has become The un is anti American and should be shoved into the sea.

  • jay

    The WMD/Chemical is showing up in Syria. We were right right in invading Iraq.

  • http://FreedomOutpost.com/ Tim Brown

    still think you are in the land of the free after Bush’s power grab with the Patriot Act? Tell me if the position you assume at the airport under federal employees clearly violating the Fourth Amendment says anything about freedom. It doesn’t. Additionally, Sadam was no threat to us.

    All one really needed to read in this piece was “Granted, no warehouses brimming with WMD were found,”

    Exactly which invalidates all that was put up. So what if he had “means for resuming their lethal R & D”? The yellowcake uranium…..who exactly that and for what purpose?

    The war was a mistake. Afghanistan was justified. As you pointed out, WMD’s, which is what we were told at first was the reason for going in, were not found. We didn’t say we were going to free the Iraqis and we didn’t say at first we were toppling their government. that came later on in the story.

    • TexasJester

      The 17th UN resolution stated that if Saddam didn’t abide by the UN resolution, and quit messing with the inspectors, he would be removed by force. Saddam thumbed his nose at the UN. Germany, France, and Russia decided to do nothing – turns out they were on the take from Saddam, so they would vote this way.

      Bush and Blair decided to use the teeth that the UN gave them, otherwise the UN would be seen as a “paper tiger”. They got together a coalition of 30-some nations and enforced the UN resolution. They removed Saddam from power.

      The WMDs were sent to Syria on trucks and planes in the days before we went in. There was video of that on the news. Heck, after we’d been there for a couple of years, the locals showed us where the Iraqi “air force” had buried an entire squadron of jet fighters in the desert! Who’s to say that there’s not more WMDs buried out there??

      I will agree that we stayed a lot longer than we needed to, or should have. And I will agree that GW was a bit more progressive than I would have liked. Some aspects of the Patriot Act I agree with; some aspects I don’t. The TSA is a JOKE. But I also think he was doing what he thought best to protect our nation at a critical and perilous time. BTW, the ENTIRE congress – both Houses – ALL democrats and republicans – UNANIMOUSLY voted to go after Saddam Hussein. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

      The Iraqi Freedom war was all about enforcing a UN resolution – that’s it! The resolutions came about because every intelligence gathering network in the world – including the Israelis, who are far and above the BEST intelligence gathering network – said that Saddam had WMDs, and was using them. Saddam then jerked around the UN inspectors. The UN said “stop it!” – And finally WE stopped it.

      Go back and watch the proceedings and meetings and speeches given at the time. I did at the time. You’ll get a whole new perspective of what ACTUALLY happened, not what your socialist progressive democrat slave masters want you to think happened. Remember the book “1984”? The main character worked in a department that scoured books and newspapers to change the printed versions of what was going on to match that day’s version of history. Sounds like what’s happening now…

      • http://FreedomOutpost.com/ Tim Brown

        Actually you are incorrect about the House and Senate being unanimous as demonstrated here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/20/gop-iraq-war_n_2910618.html

        Additionally, I lived through it when all the debate was going on. The problem we face in “nation building,” as the author referred to it, is that we think democracy in the region will change it. It won’t.

        This should be clear from numerous nations in which we have sought to put our nose where it didn’t belong.

        BTW, some of your points I agree with, however, on this one “And I will agree that GW was a bit more progressive than I would have liked. Some aspects of the Patriot Act I agree with; some aspects I don’t. The TSA is a JOKE. But I also think he was doing what he thought best to protect our nation at a critical and perilous time. ” This is why there is a Constitution. It’s there to keep people from reacting emotionally and overstepping their bounds. The Patriot Act was nothing more than abominable violation of the Constitution (judge Andrew Napolitano’s words, not mine).

        • TexasJester

          First, you’re going to rely on HuffPost for “accurate news”? Second, check the Congressional record. There was not a single dissenting vote.

          • http://FreedomOutpost.com/ Tim Brown

            TJ, while It’s not an issue of the source, the reality is that you were wrong. Here’s is the vote and it was far from unanimous…..whose revising history here? It ain’t me. http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/10/10/203425.shtml
            BTW, the Senate voted 77-23 and the House voted 296-133. Again, that’s not unanimous.

          • TexasJester

            Again, CHECK THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD.

          • TexasJester

            Ok, I stand corrected. I just checked the Record, and I must admit I was wrong.

          • http://FreedomOutpost.com/ Tim Brown

            TJ, thanks for your honesty. It is appreciated.

          • http://FreedomOutpost.com/ Tim Brown

            However, more to the point. I would like to see us completely out of the UN. It’s a bad organization and they are already pushing things our way and have been for far too long.

          • TexasJester

            Now THAT is a statement that I can completely agree with!!

  • 4lifeandfreedom

    Mr. Pauwels, Please thank your son for his service to our country. And, thank you for speaking up positively about the invasion that was “necessary and justified,” as one poster stated.
    President George W. Bush was correct in his assessment of what had to be done in March of 2003, when he sent our troops to Iraq to get rid of the despot Saddam Hussein and his murderous thugs. Why are people not in tune with that fact?
    I believe that May 4, 2013 will mark the return of the first flight of troops from Iraq, as they flew into Bangor International Airport, Bangor, ME. And, thousands of flights and millions of our military men and women have come through Bangor since that time. When one encounters hundreds of young men and women and their superiors as they return, and hear them say “I would go again,” it is the most humbling of experiences for anyone greeting them, as we did. And that goes for those who are still being deployed to areas in the Middle East.
    History will be good to former President George W. Bush!

  • Victor

    Here’s the Hebrew-inspired actual truth: America, as our own brother & also MARXIST(ANTI-CHRIST IN IDEOLOGY for over 100 years now, England PROVED(i.e. “sun never sets upon the British Empire & Gen. 48:16), it was brother u.s.(America) that put over it the ONLY “forbidden foreigner”(non-Anglo-Saxon) in history predicted in Deuteronomy 17:15! Oh! Did I mention also the RIGHT “ANTI-CHRIST”(MARXIST) over u.s. this time? Yes, folks, as also written, “the first will be last & the last will be first,” also as written. Starting one of these soon coming Annual Fall Feast of Trumpets(war) comes the two-witnesses of Revelation, chapter 11 to severely punish u.s for the following 3 1/2 years, leaving only 144,000 Anglo-Saxons left alive. Furthermore, in only 3 1/2 days after the current “Anti-Christ'(MARXIST) over u.s. has these two-witnesses murdered, our JEWISH, NOT GREEK, SAVIOR “YAHSHUA”(meaning in Hebrew that: “Yahweh means salvation”) returns and totally destroys Bablylon/Islam in one hour!~(Rev. 18:10)!

    • TexasJester

      That was so convoluted that I can’t quite figger out what you’re trying to say here…

    • Bighoss

      Do you know the meaning of “imbroglio”? If not, you should look it up. With that post, you created one.

  • noweareman

    So ther were no WMD’s in Iraq
    Gee I wonder how Syria got chemical weapons all of a sudden?

  • fixfen

    Was this article written by GW Bush? It seems to as far off target as the estimates, by the Bush administration, of the cost of his mideast misadventure by his neocon advisors. And “yellowjack”! I remember when neocons reported that Iraq was trying to buy “Yellowjack” from Niger. When our ambassador reported this was UNtrue, his CIA operative wife was outed by neocon advisors to GWB; In violation of US laws I might add.
    As for what all the intelligence agencies believed; Iraq wasregularly inspected by UN inspectors who found no evidence of weapons of mass destruction. There were Americans among these inspectors and I would esimate that some of the inspectors had CIA connections

    • TexasJester

      Valerie Plain (sp) was NOT an operative! She was a desk jockey at CIA headquarters! When they went to parties and such, her own husband introduced her as “my wife Valerie, the CIA spy”. He outed her – plus she was no longer an operative – so how could she have been outed??

      And we (along with our allies) went in to enforce the 17th UN resolution, that stated that if Saddam didn’t comply, he would be forcibly removed. And three of the five UN Security Council members – Germany, France, and Russia – we on the take from Saddam; they decided not to take action, even when circumstances showed the removal of Saddam was demanded by the resolution.

      We (along with our allies) enforced the UN resolution. Plain and simple. Sorry if that doesn’t jibe with your socialist progressive democrat Bush-hating agenda.

  • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

    TEN POOREST CITIES
    Interesting to say the least.

    City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
    1. Detroit , MI
    32.5%
    2. Buffalo , NY
    29.9%
    3. Cincinnati , OH
    27.8%
    4. Cleveland , OH
    27.0%
    5. Miami , FL
    26.9%
    5. St. Louis , MO
    26.8%
    7. El Paso , TX
    26.4%
    8. Milwaukee , WI
    26.2%
    9. Philadelphia , PA
    25.1%
    10. Newark , NJ
    24.2%
    What do the top ten cities
    (over 250,000) with the highest
    poverty rate all have in common?

    Detroit, MI (1st on the list)hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1961.
    Buffalo , NY (2nd) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1954.
    Cincinnati , OH (3rd) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1984.
    Cleveland , OH (4th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1989.
    Miami , FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor.
    St. Louis , MO (6th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1949.
    El Paso , TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor.
    Milwaukee , WI (8th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1908.
    Philadelphia , PA (9th) hasn’telected a Republican mayor since 1952.
    Newark , NJ (10th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1907.

    Einstein once said, ‘The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.’

    • TexasJester

      Spot on, Marine!!

      Good to see you back, Raymond! You’ve been missed! (BTW, loved the joke about the 2 terrorists and the Marine and the cokes!)

      • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

        Bob was sitting on the plane when a guy took the seat beside him.

        The guy was an emotional wreck, pale, hands shaking, moaning in fear.

        “What’s the matter?” Bob asked.

        “I’ve been transferred to Chicago, there are crazy people there.
        They’ve got lots of shootings, gangs, race riots, drugs, poor public
        schools, and the highest crime rate in the nation.”

        Bob replied, “I’ve lived in Chicago all my life. It’s not as bad as the
        media says. Find a nice home, go to work, mind your own business,
        and enroll your kids in a nice private school. It’s as safe a place as
        anywhere in the world.”

        The guy relaxed and stopped shaking and said, “Oh, thank you.
        I’ve been worried to death. But if you live there and say it’s OK,
        I’ll take your word for it. What do you do for a living?”

        “I’m a tail gunner on a Budweiser truck.”

  • Injeun

    Good article….appreciate it.

  • Bulldog74

    I don’t have a lot of facts ,figures and commentaries in front of me at the moment, I can only go by my own observations having been in the region both during and after the Saddam era…that part of the world is a lot better off without him, and so are we.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ed-Scott/100002103340101 Ed Scott

    “Bankrolling Palestinian terrorists and convincingly suspected of involvement with al-Qaeda”

    Isn’t obama doing that today, and not just the palestinians.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ed-Scott/100002103340101 Ed Scott

    I have never seen a reason to go to war against Iraq.

    Dictator, Hussein may have been, but he had never done anything to the U.S. We went to war in 1991 with Iraq to save Kuwait, an oil rich country.

    This was after we indicated to Hussein if he attacked Kuwait, he did so with the U.S. blessings. (Secretary of State in 1990).
    Hussein had nothing to do with 9-1-1.

    Hussein did not tolerate Al Queda.

    The war with Iraq was a war about oil.
    And we still don’t have Iraq’s oil.

    you can argue about it all you want, but what I am saying is true.

    We lost blood and treasure in Iraq over oil.

    You can try to justify it, but you cannot.

    Hussein was a vicious Dictator, but it is not in the U.S. best interest to attempt to take out every Dictator in the world.

    If this is not true, then why have we not tried taking out North Korea and China?

    In Hussein and Iraq, we simply went to war with a Dictator we knew we could beat.

    The 2003 war with Iraq was not necessary.

    We were promised as a nation that we would benefit from the oil in Iraq and that the oil would pay for the war.

    This, of course never happened.

    Hussein presented no threat to the U.S.

    The war in Afghanistan was not a necessary war.

    Eventually we will leave .
    we will not win there.

    We, as a nation do not have the fortitude (to suffer the deaths it would take) to win a war any longer.
    Just like Vietnam, we will not pay the price in blood and treasure that it would take to win the war in Afghanistan.

    We will leave eventually, patting ourselves on the back, and saying we “won”. just like the Russians did.

    If we had just wanted to go to war, why did we not go to war with Saudi Arabia? Most of the perpetrators of 9-1-1 were Saudi Arabian, yet the Saudis get off completely free.

    • TexasJester

      Apparently you never read my other posts today , I’ll repeat myself – again..

      We were enforcing the UN resolutions that was to remove Saddam if he didn’t abide the resolutions. Saddam didn’t abide, so we – with our allies – removed him from power. That is why we went into Iraq.

      How quickly people forget, and how well the socialist progressive democrats rewrite history, a la “1984”.

    • http://FreedomOutpost.com/ Tim Brown

      You are exactly right. I remember those promises that Iraqi oil would pay for the war and yada yada by GWB admin. never happened. We were stuck with the bill. Great post.

  • http://www.facebook.com/robert.andersonsr Robert Anderson Sr

    Just this week they are finding Chemical Weapons Syria got FROM IRAQ before we went into IRAQ !! That is why NO WMD were found because they moved them to SYRIA before !! BUT the FAR LEFT MEDIA wanted to DEGRADE BUSH any way they could and DID !! Now we are ALLOWING this POS to DESTROY OUR COUNTRY !! He is a MUSLIM COMMUNIST in disguise and we are PUTTING up with him -WHY?

  • http://EdenPoliticalCartoons.com/ David John Eden

    Ditto. My sentiments too. Thus my toon—- http://edenpoliticalcartoons.com/?p=1062 “Iran: Lunacy or Legacy?”

  • Grizzly

    Truth Trumps Trendiness. Bravo!

  • zagozana

    Hussein deserved to die along with his sons, but he wasn’t a threat to us.

    He was only really interested in scaring Iran with who he had a war against with over 2,000,000 deaths.

    The war was a game played by big oil, the military/industrial complex and the powers of the other Middle Eastern countries to bleed the wealth of our nation into their greedy little hands.
    This was the worst fought war America ever got itself into. It was fought by soldiers and employees of security companies otherwise known as MERCENARIES!
    WAR FOR PROFIT NOT IDEOLOGY!

    Casualties of the Iraq War

    Iraq War

    White and red flags, representing Iraqi and American deaths, sit in the grass quadrangle of The Valley Library on the Corvallis, Oregon, campus of Oregon State University. As part of the traveling Iraq Body Count exhibit from 2008 to 2009 (not related to Iraq Body Count project), the flags aim to “raise awareness of the human cost of the Iraq War.” (May 2008)

    Casualties of the conflict in Iraq since 2003 (beginning with the 2003 invasion of Iraq, and continuing with the ensuing occupation of Iraq,
    as well as the activities of the various armed groups operating in the
    country) have come in many forms, and the accuracy of the information
    available on different types of Iraq War casualties varies greatly.

    Associated Press
    110,600 violent deaths
    March 2003 to April 2009

    Iraq Body Count project
    110,937–121,227 civilian deaths from violence.

    172,907 civilian and combatant deaths[1][2][3]
    March 2003 to December 2012

    Iraq Family Health Survey
    151,000 violent deaths
    March 2003 to June 2006

    Lancet survey
    601,027 violent deaths out of 654,965 excess deaths
    March 2003 to June 2006

    Opinion Research Business survey
    1,033,000 deaths as a result of the conflict
    March 2003 to August 2007

    WikiLeaks. Classified Iraq War Logs[1][4][5][6]
    109,032 deaths including

    66,081 civilian deaths.[7][8]
    January 2004 to December 2009

  • Kosenator

    The bio-warheads found in Iraq were sent to him by the US government during the IRan/Iraq war to use on Iran.

    Also:

    http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com

  • leewacker

    Thomas Young has forgotten one very important fact: HE raised his hand to swear to uphold the Constitution as a soldier! HE, through his own free will, told his muscles to raise that hand, no one else held it up for him! I don’t have much patience for his whining! He should have shared MY life for six years with a badly, wounded, dying man–who gave HIS life so that Thomas Young could grow up in a free country! I have seen others in the VA hospitals, wounded in WWII, a few as far back as WWI and one lone former Chinese soldier from the Manchurian Invasion by Japan in 1935! Others were from Korea and Vietnam—and NO complaining from any of them!
    No, it is men like those I knew that get my respect, NOT whining, sniveling little jerks like Thomas Young!

  • Scott Snoopy

    the shame is how the current White House occupant made the lose of life trivial by “surrendering” oh I mean pulling out..oh..umm…leaving. He did nothing to negotiate a stabilization force in Iraq now he is doing the same thing in Astan…devaluing the losses of our troops.

    Had Bush not decided he wanted to be popular and unleashed the dogs of war…not hamstrung the troops like in Vietnam; the troops would have cleaned out that cesspool. But no playing PC war costs lives and using body count of the Jihadis like that of the VC never wins. You take ground, hold ground, play to win; not play to be popular

  • TexasJester

    Again, short version of previous posts: We went in to enforce the UN resolutions. Go back and read what was being said, and listen to the meetings, speeches, and debates.

  • TexasJester

    Pssst — there were convoys of trucks and several large planes that went to Syria in the days just before we went in – there’s video of it. I have seen it.

  • TexasJester

    Again Valerie was not an undercover operative at the time – nor had she been for years. She was a desk jockey. And she and her husband made no secret she worked for the CIA, and had once been undercover. She outed herself; her husband outed her as well; long before Scooter said anything. Since she herself had been stating she had been a CIA operative at one point, and making no secrets about it, I can’t see why Scooter was prosecuted for repeating what she had been telling EVERYONE she met !!

  • TexasJester

    How about the wounded vets that were trying to recover, so they could go back? Gotcha back!

  • tlc8310

    You are such a sipleton. I know you’re an obama suporter because of your lack of knowlege. All you do is go from one site to the next stiring the pot. God bless our servicemen. They are the 1% from this whole country that have the balls to do something consrtuctive for the country. War is hell and since we have the biggeststeak in any war, we have the nost injurs and deaths. Democrats are trying to tgake their benefits and are blocking the medical attention they deserve. They should have life long care. BTW, they ad their familys are the only ones that do have a right to criticize. They may not have all the facts but they were there and have earned tha right. I’m etire 1st Sgt with 24 years service and combat in Viet Nam so you kow where I stand. This is America, please love it or leave it.

  • TexasJester

    It was the progressive media that made that link, and attributed it to Bush and Cheney. I was listening to what was said at the time. Again, check the history, not what your slave masters want you to think.

  • TexasJester

    You just don’t get it, do you? I’m not repeating myself AGAIN.. Suffice it to say, you are so wrong that I can’t believe it.

  • Bulldog74

    All I said was that from what I’ve seen, the world is better off without Saddam Hussein….you disagree with that?
    BTW, why was it when we intervened in Libya, it was crickets chirping from the “progressive” side. How was Libya threatening the U.S.?

  • TexasJester

    Did you look at the Congressional Record? Don’t think you have had the time yet. And until you do, and can prove me wrong, hush up. When (if) you do, and can post the results, hush up. Don’t say I’m wrong without proof.

  • TexasJester

    Bless your heart..

  • mtman2

    “Well”, idiot RR was dealing w/the USSR then pinhead, he didn’t bite off more than We needed to handle. Nuclear war was more than a tad bigger deal than suicidal camel jockeys U jerk. NO one saw these ‘Muslim’ madmen+women coming, that would go to any length to see the “72 virgins” including strapping dynomite to their own children. WHAT A WASTREL, LEARN SOMETHING USEFUL-YOUR A CHILD!!!!

  • http://FreedomOutpost.com/ Tim Brown

    how bout you cite your source. I cited mine:)

  • TexasJester

    I just checked the Congressional Record, prepared to quote it – and discovered I was WRONG. Surprised the heck out of me!

  • Bulldog74

    Quite a diff? Not to the Libyans…

  • Bulldog74

    Ok, smart one, so what was our U.S. vital interest in Libya that justified raining crusie missiles and smart bombs down on them?

  • Bulldog74

    In your own words: “Those are not valid, legal reasons to invade a country! Why don’t we invade North Korea?”

  • Bulldog74

    Strictly speaking, you’re correct, if you define “invasion” as “boots on the ground.”
    By the same token, the Enola Gay never “invaded” Japan.
    So I’ll rephrase…Why don’t we lob cruise missiles at North Korea?

  • Bulldog74

    Yeah, because lobbing missiles from drones, that takes real guts.
    So the crux of your argument is if Bush did it, it was bad, if Obama does it, it’s good.

  • Bulldog74

    Well, all I can say is that it’s a tall order to comprehend the incomprehensible, inconsistent and illogical.
    Especially when it’ scouched in smarminess, self-superiority and condecension interspersed with insult and personal attacks (“Dumb much?” — hey pal, you’re the one who started with getting personal, not me).
    But name-calling is the last refuge of someone who has no valid argument to make, so thanks for validating my points.

  • http://FreedomOutpost.com/ Tim Brown

    Question I have is, if there is truly a UN and resolutions, then why are those other nations not enforcing those resolutions? I don’t see that the US is bound to those resolutions, nor should we be. Our military should not be used on behalf of the UN, period. I question the constitutionality of that.

  • http://FreedomOutpost.com/ Tim Brown

    OK, TJ, let me play devil’s advocate here. If what you say is true, why did we spend all that time looking for them, when there was video of them leaving the country before we invaded it? Why didn’t we just go into Syria? BTW, I’m far from liberal, but this kind of question must come up when you say this.

  • Bulldog74

    Yeah, well maybe if you’d lose the attitude and stop acting like a know-it-all Freshman home on Thanksgiving break, you could get a little give-and-take of ideas going — assuming that’s what you’re interested in.
    If you want your viewpoints to be respected then maybe you should start respecting others’. We can disagree without being disagreeable.

  • barbiecakes

    Is that a fact Skippy?

  • barbiecakes

    Bush may of been hated but he had respect. As a ”leader” barry the boy gets none.

  • leewacker

    If what the world is showing to us is “respect for Obama,” I’ll take vanilla! After the way he has treated the British, AND proposing a toast while their National Anthem was being played, shows NO respect for anyone or anything!

  • barbiecakes

    Your closet queen obama was a member of the choom gang. He also smoked crack and snorted coke. So your drug addicts are better than ours. Did I get it correct Skippy?

  • leewacker

    No, I think there were small pockets of Al Quaeda in Iran, and therefore in Iraqi about the same time we went in. Don’t underestimate Al Quaeda, they want to destroy most of the Middle East as well as us! Wouldn’t be at all surprised if Hezbollah, Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood didn’t have to team up to fight Al Quaeda one day!

  • leewacker

    Now, HERE, I think I can disabuse you of some of YOUR anti-American views!
    My husband was a Korean War vet, and, believe me, he was wounded badly–of course, that’s what a plane crash will do after taking a couple of tank cannon rounds–but, one thing he and all the other TRULY injured vets would say about John Kerry is general agreement that the man was a COWARD–pure and simple! You should see what those fellows say and how they treat men they suspect are faking it! Isn’t pretty!

  • leewacker

    No, that is the ULTIMATE insult from a true Southerner! When they are speechless with rage and are trying VERY hard to be civil, that’s what they say!
    Better accept it—that Texan is more of a gentleman than you are!

  • leewacker

    Clinton didn’t do one thing positive for the U.S. as far as Al Quaeda and bin Laden were concerned! In fact, HE did nothing but pat them on the head, and tell them what good little boys they were!

  • leewacker

    NO! They were observed on numerous occasions by our own troops and reporters! Saddam himself admitted to sending his WMDs to Syria, and, if you would take time to investigate, not just a few of our troops came home with mustard gas poisoning!
    People like you are putting the rest of us in harm’s way!

  • TexasJester

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2004/2004-11-02-il-ussenate_x.htm

    Try again! He was elected to federal senate in November 2004, AFTER the 2003 vote!

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