• Nick

    I have a hard time understanding why Stewart is so upset. Isn’t the usually for liberals, trying to pull off stupid stuff and getting caught?

    • Bill

      Before, he could always call them Tea Party people wackos for believing this stuff, now he must admit they were right. And also admit they may be right in future issues involving government intrusion.

    • Bill

      Before, he could always call them Tea Party people wackos for believing this stuff, now he must admit they were right. And also admit they may be right in future issues involving government intrusion.

  • steve p

    While we’re giggling at Stewart, and while we’re pleased he’s clearly outraged over the IRS’s misdeeds and State Dept. violation of the press … let’s not give him a pass on his implied dismissal of the Benghazi atrocity. In the best case scenario — best case scenario — it’s still undeniable that the President, Hillary, Susan Rice and Jay Carney LIED to the whole world about the cause of the Benghazi riot which led to the death of four Americans serving our country. That ALONE should be enough to discredit this whole bunch for the next three and a half years.

    • 71yearoldGrandma

      Oh…you are so right. (But…maybe a little secret giggling would be allowed?) And of course some public praising God for His help in this matter.

      • http://twitter.com/captric captric

        You still believe in ghosts? No wonder no one takes the republican party seriously nor any of their conspiracy theories.

        • disqus_lJpzo1DMyh

          only the Holy Ghost, YHWH and Yahoshua Ha Mashiach and one day every knee shall bow and every tongue confess He is King of Kings and Lord of Lords. best to do that now.

          • Hoodoo H

            Huge AMEN

          • rcbobj

            You are one sick puppy.

          • Marlin208

            He is beyond help. Some times you have to just knock the dust off of your feet and keep going.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Just substitute the word Holy Ghost, YHWH and Yahoshua Ha with ALAH and you sound EXACTLY like the radical Islamists.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Just substitute the word Holy Ghost, YHWH and Yahoshua Ha with ALAH and you sound EXACTLY like the radical Islamists.

        • disqus_lJpzo1DMyh

          only the Holy Ghost, YHWH and Yahoshua Ha Mashiach and one day every knee shall bow and every tongue confess He is King of Kings and Lord of Lords. best to do that now.

        • Guest

          It isn’t a conspiracy theory if it’s a FACT…you tool.

          • davienne

            dont you mean … stool ???

          • Nana

            Or fool?

          • Nana

            Or fool?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You gotta love the two word sentences. Exactly what I have come to expect from the deep thinkers of the Republibot party.

          • Nana

            Two letters would be ab, cd, ef, etc.

          • Nana

            Two letters would be ab, cd, ef, etc.

          • panors77

            Too bad you’re of the obamabot party, which is the unoffical arm of the CPUSA these days. Or maybe you carry a CPUSA card eh? Never seen one before….maybe you could show it to the class here eh? Please move to Viet Nam.

          • panors77

            Too bad you’re of the obamabot party, which is the unoffical arm of the CPUSA these days. Or maybe you carry a CPUSA card eh? Never seen one before….maybe you could show it to the class here eh? Please move to Viet Nam.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            What is the CPUSA? Is that the Communist Party? You know that is an evil icon that is SO old that you cannot even identify what a communist is. Besides – your fellow republibots have described Obama as a Leninist, Socialist, Marxist, Communist not even realizing (or smart enough to figure out) that those terms are all mutually exclusive. It is people like you that embarrass the rupublipuke party by demonstrating their utter lack of education. What a bunch of RUBES! LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            What is the CPUSA? Is that the Communist Party? You know that is an evil icon that is SO old that you cannot even identify what a communist is. Besides – your fellow republibots have described Obama as a Leninist, Socialist, Marxist, Communist not even realizing (or smart enough to figure out) that those terms are all mutually exclusive. It is people like you that embarrass the rupublipuke party by demonstrating their utter lack of education. What a bunch of RUBES! LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            What is the CPUSA? Is that the Communist Party? You know that is an evil icon that is SO old that you cannot even identify what a communist is. Besides – your fellow republibots have described Obama as a Leninist, Socialist, Marxist, Communist not even realizing (or smart enough to figure out) that those terms are all mutually exclusive. It is people like you that embarrass the rupublipuke party by demonstrating their utter lack of education. What a bunch of RUBES! LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            What is the CPUSA? Is that the Communist Party? You know that is an evil icon that is SO old that you cannot even identify what a communist is. Besides – your fellow republibots have described Obama as a Leninist, Socialist, Marxist, Communist not even realizing (or smart enough to figure out) that those terms are all mutually exclusive. It is people like you that embarrass the rupublipuke party by demonstrating their utter lack of education. What a bunch of RUBES! LOL

          • panors77

            Too bad you’re of the obamabot party, which is the unoffical arm of the CPUSA these days. Or maybe you carry a CPUSA card eh? Never seen one before….maybe you could show it to the class here eh? Please move to Viet Nam.

          • Nana

            Hey, captric. Good to see you now know the difference between a word and a letter. Lesson learned well.

          • Nana

            Hey, captric. Good to see you now know the difference between a word and a letter. Lesson learned well.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You gotta love the two word sentences. Exactly what I have come to expect from the deep thinkers of the Republibot party.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You gotta love the two word sentences. Exactly what I have come to expect from the deep thinkers of the Republibot party.

          • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

            Tool is probably correct terminology, since these fools are being used by this idiot who wants to play pres.

          • Nana

            Or fool?

          • erehwon

            In a side note, never offer to trade stools in a gay bar … [rimshot!]

          • davienne

            BWAAAHAHAHAHA

          • davienne

            BWAAAHAHAHAHA

          • erehwon

            In a side note, never offer to trade stools in a gay bar … [rimshot!]

          • erehwon

            In a side note, never offer to trade stools in a gay bar … [rimshot!]

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            That coming from a stool for brains illiterate republibot? LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            That coming from a stool for brains illiterate republibot? LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            That coming from a stool for brains illiterate republibot? LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            That coming from a stool for brains illiterate republibot? LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            No actually it is conspiracy – there ARE no facts. Name ONE fact (and Breitbart and Limbaughs opinions do not count as a fact).

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            What facts?? You have nothing of substance and no facts.

          • panors77

            Fact: There was no “protest” over a film about muhamaad before or at anytime at Bengazzi according to the secuirty video before during and after, despite the FACT that BO’s regime tried to cover it up within days of the attack blaming it on such same protest that never happened.
            Fact: BO’s birth certificate has little white halos around all the lettering despite the FACT that others like my own Hawaiian b/c have none, nor do others that go back to the 1930′s. 12 year olds can show that this “birth certificate” was totally and unabridgedly generated on a computer and not from a scan of a paper document.
            FACT: BO was raised by communists. His parents and grandparents, plus mentored by Frank Marshall Davis and Willaim Ayers of the Weather Underground who tried a scheme to blow up the pentagon in the 1960′s.

          • panors77

            Fact: There was no “protest” over a film about muhamaad before or at anytime at Bengazzi according to the secuirty video before during and after, despite the FACT that BO’s regime tried to cover it up within days of the attack blaming it on such same protest that never happened.
            Fact: BO’s birth certificate has little white halos around all the lettering despite the FACT that others like my own Hawaiian b/c have none, nor do others that go back to the 1930′s. 12 year olds can show that this “birth certificate” was totally and unabridgedly generated on a computer and not from a scan of a paper document.
            FACT: BO was raised by communists. His parents and grandparents, plus mentored by Frank Marshall Davis and Willaim Ayers of the Weather Underground who tried a scheme to blow up the pentagon in the 1960′s.

          • panors77

            Fact: There was no “protest” over a film about muhamaad before or at anytime at Bengazzi according to the secuirty video before during and after, despite the FACT that BO’s regime tried to cover it up within days of the attack blaming it on such same protest that never happened.
            Fact: BO’s birth certificate has little white halos around all the lettering despite the FACT that others like my own Hawaiian b/c have none, nor do others that go back to the 1930′s. 12 year olds can show that this “birth certificate” was totally and unabridgedly generated on a computer and not from a scan of a paper document.
            FACT: BO was raised by communists. His parents and grandparents, plus mentored by Frank Marshall Davis and Willaim Ayers of the Weather Underground who tried a scheme to blow up the pentagon in the 1960′s.

          • MKD

            Oh man….you know they don’t understand facts….it confuses their little minds that love to be controlled…..

          • MKD

            Oh man….you know they don’t understand facts….it confuses their little minds that love to be controlled…..

          • MKD

            Oh man….you know they don’t understand facts….it confuses their little minds that love to be controlled…..

          • MKD

            Oh man….you know they don’t understand facts….it confuses their little minds that love to be controlled…..

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            OMG — you people are SO Fu***** Stupid. But I am SOOOOO happy you are a member of the republibot party because it is people like you that will eventually lead to the downfall of the entire party!! LOLOLOLOL Halos on his birth certificate????? Raised by communists????? Mentored by Davis and Ayers????? You are out there with Pluto do Dumb A**

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            OMG — you people are SO Fu***** Stupid. But I am SOOOOO happy you are a member of the republibot party because it is people like you that will eventually lead to the downfall of the entire party!! LOLOLOLOL Halos on his birth certificate????? Raised by communists????? Mentored by Davis and Ayers????? You are out there with Pluto do Dumb A**

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            OMG — you people are SO Fu***** Stupid. But I am SOOOOO happy you are a member of the republibot party because it is people like you that will eventually lead to the downfall of the entire party!! LOLOLOLOL Halos on his birth certificate????? Raised by communists????? Mentored by Davis and Ayers????? You are out there with Pluto do Dumb A**

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            OMG — you people are SO Fu***** Stupid. But I am SOOOOO happy you are a member of the republibot party because it is people like you that will eventually lead to the downfall of the entire party!! LOLOLOLOL Halos on his birth certificate????? Raised by communists????? Mentored by Davis and Ayers????? You are out there with Pluto do Dumb A**

          • Richard minear

            Hard to get facts when Obama has all records sealed. Tells his people to lie to congress.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            What records are sealed? LOL He produced his birth certificate and so did the State of Hawaii. He timed it perfectly to dump a dose of reality on one of your favorite candidates – Donald Trump! Have not heard much from that idiot lately have you?

          • Richard minear

            Hard to get facts when Obama has all records sealed. Tells his people to lie to congress.

          • Richard minear

            Hard to get facts when Obama has all records sealed. Tells his people to lie to congress.

          • Richard minear

            Hard to get facts when Obama has all records sealed. Tells his people to lie to congress.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            What facts?? You have nothing of substance and no facts.

        • Guest

          It isn’t a conspiracy theory if it’s a FACT…you tool.

        • Tpatriot

          You make no sense! Just like this administration.

        • Tpatriot

          You make no sense! Just like this administration.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            It only makes sense to people who know how to think and reason get their facts from credible sources.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            It only makes sense to people who know how to think and reason get their facts from credible sources.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            It only makes sense to people who know how to think and reason get their facts from credible sources.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            It only makes sense to people who know how to think and reason get their facts from credible sources.

        • Tpatriot

          You make no sense! Just like this administration.

        • Tpatriot

          You make no sense! Just like this administration.

        • mac12sam12

          Keep watching Rev. Al Scooter!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I dont watch MSNBC – or FOX news except hen I am interestedd in where people like you get so much BS and talking points from!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I dont watch MSNBC – or FOX news except hen I am interestedd in where people like you get so much BS and talking points from!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I dont watch MSNBC – or FOX news except hen I am interestedd in where people like you get so much BS and talking points from!

        • mac12sam12

          Keep watching Rev. Al Scooter!

        • mac12sam12

          Keep watching Rev. Al Scooter!

        • mac12sam12

          Keep watching Rev. Al Scooter!

        • http://www.facebook.com/jeffharris1701 Jeff Harris

          Captric: you’re a moron. Conspiracy theory? How ’bout the fact that the Obama regime has been lying to the American people?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Big bad internet warrior. I bet you have never been in charge of anything in your life and you stand behind our troops just like the brave man you are — 4000 MILES behind our troops! LOL What a coward.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Big bad internet warrior. I bet you have never been in charge of anything in your life and you stand behind our troops just like the brave man you are — 4000 MILES behind our troops! LOL What a coward.

          • SEAvet

            Oh…so you mean like Obama?

          • 4grands

            SEAvet….looks like you shut captric up.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You think? So what are you – a pansy ass sailor or something? Have you ever even seen combat? Last time I went on a rescue mission with the Marines Special Ops no President was making the tactical decision on whether or not we should go! Did you even graduate from high school?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You think? So what are you – a pansy ass sailor or something? Have you ever even seen combat? Last time I went on a rescue mission with the Marines Special Ops no President was making the tactical decision on whether or not we should go! Did you even graduate from high school?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You think? So what are you – a pansy ass sailor or something? Have you ever even seen combat? Last time I went on a rescue mission with the Marines Special Ops no President was making the tactical decision on whether or not we should go! Did you even graduate from high school?

          • 4grands

            SEAvet….looks like you shut captric up.

          • SEAvet

            Oh…so you mean like Obama?

          • SEAvet

            Oh…so you mean like Obama?

          • SEAvet

            Oh…so you mean like Obama?

          • Nana

            And the world!!!

          • Nana

            And the world!!!

          • Nana

            And the world!!!

          • Nana

            And the world!!!

          • skitzo

            What politicians don’t lie to the people? You have to lie to get elected. and once in power, you want to stay in power and will do what it takes. One of the wisest and most simple statements was made by Lord Acton a few hundred years ago: “power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.” Obama is no worse than any other president, except many of you in here hate him more because he is a black man.

          • LibertyMonger

            This pathetic “you’re a racist” tactic doesn’t fly anymore LMAO! Obama could kick your grandma and you would make excuse for him! Oh by the way most of us smart ones who don’t fall for the lies are against Bush just as much, in case you are too stupid to know this. We are against corruption and lies fool!

          • skitzo

            You certainly don’t know how to engage in rational discourse. All you do is rant and insult. In fact, I hear a lot of hating and namecalling, but no actual facts or real world analysis.

          • Some call me…..Tim

            And what are YOU DOING????

            Hypocrite alert!

          • Some call me…..Tim

            And what are YOU DOING????

            Hypocrite alert!

          • Some call me…..Tim

            And what are YOU DOING????

            Hypocrite alert!

          • Some call me…..Tim

            And what are YOU DOING????

            Hypocrite alert!

          • skitzo

            You certainly don’t know how to engage in rational discourse. All you do is rant and insult. In fact, I hear a lot of hating and namecalling, but no actual facts or real world analysis.

          • skitzo

            You certainly don’t know how to engage in rational discourse. All you do is rant and insult. In fact, I hear a lot of hating and namecalling, but no actual facts or real world analysis.

          • John Bows

            “Oh by the way most of us smart ones who don’t fall for the lies are
            against Bush just as much, in case you are too stupid to know this.”

            Really?!? Where were you way back then when hundreds of thousands died from a war whose basis was constituted by a set of half-truths and lies? Not a peep did you make in the national discourse. Then Obama’s elected and you’re in the streets with tax protests and townhall demonstrations.

            If you’re saying the left will do anything to defend Obama, you’re insane. We don’t see Bhengazi as evidence of corruption, though. You’re on your own there – nothing corroborates the claim of intentional deception or foul play. Find it, in unambiguous terms, and we’ll talk. The IRS scandal is different altogether, and likely (and justified) to be scrutinized. Even more frightening to many of us on the left is the collection of Associated Press editor and journalist phone records by the Department of Justice – THAT is a red line. That is something that MUST be investigated.

            We on the left will do what you on the right won’t: we’ll take our own to task. Maybe you should convince your own party to do it – some prosecutions of the Bush Cartel would be a nice start.

          • reasoning with facts

            Democrats about WMD

            “One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to
            develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is
            our bottom line.”
            President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
            Quoted on CNN

            “If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We
            want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass
            destruction program.” — President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
            Quoted on CNN

            Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal
            here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical
            or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat
            we face.” — Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
            Transcript of remarks made at a Town Hall meeting in Columbus, Ohio — from USIA

            “He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times
            since 1983.” — Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb 18, 1998

            Transcript of remarks made at a Town Hall Meeting in Columbus, Ohio — From USIA
            “We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the US
            Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air
            and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat
            posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.” —
            Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI), Tom Daschle
            (D-SD), John Kerry (D — MA), and others Oct. 9, 1998

            See
            letter to Clinton by Levin, Daschle, Kerry and others

            “Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
            destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has
            made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.” — Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA),
            Dec. 16, 1998

            Statement
            by Rep. Nancy Pelosi — House of Representatives website

            “Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass
            destruction and palaces for his cronies.” — Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary
            of State, Nov. 10, 1999

            Answer
            to a question at the Chicago Council of Foreign Affairs

            “There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons
            programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs
            continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam
            continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a
            licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the
            United States and our allies.” — Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen Bob
            Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

            Letter to President
            George W. Bush signed by 9 Congressmen, including Democrats Harold Ford, Jr.,
            Joseph Lieberman, and Benjamin Gilman.

            ” We should be hell bent on getting those weapons of mass destruction, hell
            bent on having a credible approach to them, but we should try to do it in a way
            which keeps the world together and that achieves our goal which is removing
            the… defanging Saddam..” — Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Dec. 9, 2002

            Online
            with Jim Lehrer — Public Broadcasting Service

            “We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical
            weapons throughout his country.” — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

            Transcript
            of Gore’s speech, printed in USA Today

            “Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to
            deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in
            power.” — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

            Transcript
            of Gore’s speech, printed in USA Today

            “We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing
            weapons of mass destruction.” — Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27,
            2002

            U.S.
            Senate — Ted Kennedy

            “The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
            confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological
            weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his
            chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that
            he is seeking nuclear weapons…” — Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Robert Byrd

            “When I vote to give the President of the United States the authority to use
            force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein, it is because I believe that a
            deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a threat, and a
            grave threat, to our security and that of our allies in the Persian Gulf region.
            I will vote yes because I believe it is the best way to hold Saddam Hussein
            accountable.” —Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9,2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. John F. Kerry

            “There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively
            to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next
            five years .. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress
            Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.” — Sen. Jay
            Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. Jay Rockefeller

            “He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every
            significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his
            chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused
            to do” — Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

            Congressional Record —
            Rep. Henry Waxman

            “In 1998, the United States also changed its underlying policy toward Iraq
            from containment to regime change and began to examine options to effect such a
            change, including support for Iraqi opposition leaders within the country and
            abroad. In the 4 years since the inspectors, intelligence reports show that
            Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock,
            his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid,
            comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaida members, though there
            is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September
            11, 2001.

            “It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein
            wiill continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical
            warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in
            that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle
            East which, as we know all too well, affects American security.”
            Sen. Hillary
            Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. Hillary Clinton

            “The Joint Chiefs should provide Congress with casualty estimates for a war
            in Iraq as they have done in advance of every past conflict. These estimates
            should consider Saddam’s possible use of chemical or biological weapons against
            our troops.

            “Unlike the gulf war, many experts believe Saddam would
            resort to chemical and biological weapons against our troops in a desperate
            -attempt to save his regime if he believes he and his regime are ultimately
            threatened.”
            Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) Oct. 8, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. Ted Kennedy

            “There is one thing we agree upon, and that is that Saddam Hussein is an
            evil man. He is a tyrant. He has used chemical and biological weapons on his own
            people. He has disregarded United Nations resolutions calling for inspections of
            his capabilities and research and development programs. His forces regularly
            fire on American and British jet pilots enforcing the no-fly zones in the north
            and south of his country. And he has the potential to develop and deploy nuclear
            weapons… — Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. Bob Graham

            But inspectors have had a hard time getting truthful information from the
            Iraqis they interview. Saddam Hussein terrorizes his people, including his
            weapons scientists, so effectively that they are afraid to be interviewed in
            private, let alone outside the country. They know that even the appearance of
            cooperation could be a death sentence for themselves or their
            families.

            “To overcome this obstacle, and to discover and dismantle
            Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction, UNMOVIC and the IAEA must
            interview relevant persons securely and with their families protected, even if
            they protest publicly against this treatment. Hans Blix may dislike running ”a
            defection agency,’ but that could be the only way to obtain truthful information
            about Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction — Sen. Joseph Biden

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. Joseph Biden

            “With respect to Saddam Hussein and the threat he presents, we must ask
            ourselves a simple question: Why? Why is Saddam Hussein pursuing weapons that
            most nations have agreed to limit or give up? Why is Saddam Hussein guilty of
            breaking his own cease-fire agreement with the international community? Why is
            Saddam Hussein attempting to develop nuclear weapons when most nations don’t
            even try, and responsible nations that have them attempt to limit their
            potential for disaster? Why did Saddam Hussein threaten and provoke? Why does he
            develop missiles that exceed allowable limits? Why did Saddam Hussein lie and
            deceive the inspection teams previously? Why did Saddam Hussein not account for
            all of the weapons of mass destruction which UNSCOM identified? Why is he
            seeking to develop unmanned airborne vehicles for delivery of biological
            agents?
            Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), October 9, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. John F. Kerry

            “Saddam Hussein’s regime represents a grave threat to America and our
            allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam
            Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We
            know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them
            against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know
            that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that
            each day he gets closer to achieving that goal.

            “Iraq has continued to
            seek nuclear weapons and develop its arsenal in defiance of the collective will
            of the international community, as expressed through the United Nations Security
            Council. It is violating the terms of the 1991 cease-fire that ended the Gulf
            war and as many as 16 Security Council resolutions, including 11 resolutions
            concerning Iraq’s efforts to develop weapons of mass destruction. — Sen. John
            Edwards, October 10, 2002

          • reasoning with facts

            Democrats about WMD

            “One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to
            develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is
            our bottom line.”
            President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
            Quoted on CNN

            “If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We
            want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass
            destruction program.” — President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
            Quoted on CNN

            Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal
            here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical
            or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat
            we face.” — Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
            Transcript of remarks made at a Town Hall meeting in Columbus, Ohio — from USIA

            “He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times
            since 1983.” — Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb 18, 1998

            Transcript of remarks made at a Town Hall Meeting in Columbus, Ohio — From USIA
            “We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the US
            Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air
            and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat
            posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.” —
            Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI), Tom Daschle
            (D-SD), John Kerry (D — MA), and others Oct. 9, 1998

            See
            letter to Clinton by Levin, Daschle, Kerry and others

            “Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
            destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has
            made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.” — Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA),
            Dec. 16, 1998

            Statement
            by Rep. Nancy Pelosi — House of Representatives website

            “Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass
            destruction and palaces for his cronies.” — Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary
            of State, Nov. 10, 1999

            Answer
            to a question at the Chicago Council of Foreign Affairs

            “There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons
            programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs
            continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam
            continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a
            licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the
            United States and our allies.” — Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen Bob
            Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

            Letter to President
            George W. Bush signed by 9 Congressmen, including Democrats Harold Ford, Jr.,
            Joseph Lieberman, and Benjamin Gilman.

            ” We should be hell bent on getting those weapons of mass destruction, hell
            bent on having a credible approach to them, but we should try to do it in a way
            which keeps the world together and that achieves our goal which is removing
            the… defanging Saddam..” — Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Dec. 9, 2002

            Online
            with Jim Lehrer — Public Broadcasting Service

            “We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical
            weapons throughout his country.” — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

            Transcript
            of Gore’s speech, printed in USA Today

            “Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to
            deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in
            power.” — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

            Transcript
            of Gore’s speech, printed in USA Today

            “We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing
            weapons of mass destruction.” — Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27,
            2002

            U.S.
            Senate — Ted Kennedy

            “The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
            confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological
            weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his
            chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that
            he is seeking nuclear weapons…” — Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Robert Byrd

            “When I vote to give the President of the United States the authority to use
            force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein, it is because I believe that a
            deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a threat, and a
            grave threat, to our security and that of our allies in the Persian Gulf region.
            I will vote yes because I believe it is the best way to hold Saddam Hussein
            accountable.” —Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9,2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. John F. Kerry

            “There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively
            to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next
            five years .. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress
            Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.” — Sen. Jay
            Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. Jay Rockefeller

            “He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every
            significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his
            chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused
            to do” — Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

            Congressional Record —
            Rep. Henry Waxman

            “In 1998, the United States also changed its underlying policy toward Iraq
            from containment to regime change and began to examine options to effect such a
            change, including support for Iraqi opposition leaders within the country and
            abroad. In the 4 years since the inspectors, intelligence reports show that
            Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock,
            his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid,
            comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaida members, though there
            is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September
            11, 2001.

            “It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein
            wiill continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical
            warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in
            that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle
            East which, as we know all too well, affects American security.”
            Sen. Hillary
            Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. Hillary Clinton

            “The Joint Chiefs should provide Congress with casualty estimates for a war
            in Iraq as they have done in advance of every past conflict. These estimates
            should consider Saddam’s possible use of chemical or biological weapons against
            our troops.

            “Unlike the gulf war, many experts believe Saddam would
            resort to chemical and biological weapons against our troops in a desperate
            -attempt to save his regime if he believes he and his regime are ultimately
            threatened.”
            Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) Oct. 8, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. Ted Kennedy

            “There is one thing we agree upon, and that is that Saddam Hussein is an
            evil man. He is a tyrant. He has used chemical and biological weapons on his own
            people. He has disregarded United Nations resolutions calling for inspections of
            his capabilities and research and development programs. His forces regularly
            fire on American and British jet pilots enforcing the no-fly zones in the north
            and south of his country. And he has the potential to develop and deploy nuclear
            weapons… — Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. Bob Graham

            But inspectors have had a hard time getting truthful information from the
            Iraqis they interview. Saddam Hussein terrorizes his people, including his
            weapons scientists, so effectively that they are afraid to be interviewed in
            private, let alone outside the country. They know that even the appearance of
            cooperation could be a death sentence for themselves or their
            families.

            “To overcome this obstacle, and to discover and dismantle
            Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction, UNMOVIC and the IAEA must
            interview relevant persons securely and with their families protected, even if
            they protest publicly against this treatment. Hans Blix may dislike running ”a
            defection agency,’ but that could be the only way to obtain truthful information
            about Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction — Sen. Joseph Biden

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. Joseph Biden

            “With respect to Saddam Hussein and the threat he presents, we must ask
            ourselves a simple question: Why? Why is Saddam Hussein pursuing weapons that
            most nations have agreed to limit or give up? Why is Saddam Hussein guilty of
            breaking his own cease-fire agreement with the international community? Why is
            Saddam Hussein attempting to develop nuclear weapons when most nations don’t
            even try, and responsible nations that have them attempt to limit their
            potential for disaster? Why did Saddam Hussein threaten and provoke? Why does he
            develop missiles that exceed allowable limits? Why did Saddam Hussein lie and
            deceive the inspection teams previously? Why did Saddam Hussein not account for
            all of the weapons of mass destruction which UNSCOM identified? Why is he
            seeking to develop unmanned airborne vehicles for delivery of biological
            agents?
            Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), October 9, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. John F. Kerry

            “Saddam Hussein’s regime represents a grave threat to America and our
            allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam
            Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We
            know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them
            against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know
            that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that
            each day he gets closer to achieving that goal.

            “Iraq has continued to
            seek nuclear weapons and develop its arsenal in defiance of the collective will
            of the international community, as expressed through the United Nations Security
            Council. It is violating the terms of the 1991 cease-fire that ended the Gulf
            war and as many as 16 Security Council resolutions, including 11 resolutions
            concerning Iraq’s efforts to develop weapons of mass destruction. — Sen. John
            Edwards, October 10, 2002

          • reasoning with facts

            Democrats about WMD

            “One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to
            develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is
            our bottom line.”
            President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
            Quoted on CNN

            “If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We
            want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass
            destruction program.” — President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
            Quoted on CNN

            Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal
            here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical
            or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat
            we face.” — Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
            Transcript of remarks made at a Town Hall meeting in Columbus, Ohio — from USIA

            “He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times
            since 1983.” — Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb 18, 1998

            Transcript of remarks made at a Town Hall Meeting in Columbus, Ohio — From USIA
            “We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the US
            Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air
            and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat
            posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.” —
            Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI), Tom Daschle
            (D-SD), John Kerry (D — MA), and others Oct. 9, 1998

            See
            letter to Clinton by Levin, Daschle, Kerry and others

            “Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
            destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has
            made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.” — Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA),
            Dec. 16, 1998

            Statement
            by Rep. Nancy Pelosi — House of Representatives website

            “Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass
            destruction and palaces for his cronies.” — Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary
            of State, Nov. 10, 1999

            Answer
            to a question at the Chicago Council of Foreign Affairs

            “There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons
            programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs
            continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam
            continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a
            licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the
            United States and our allies.” — Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen Bob
            Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

            Letter to President
            George W. Bush signed by 9 Congressmen, including Democrats Harold Ford, Jr.,
            Joseph Lieberman, and Benjamin Gilman.

            ” We should be hell bent on getting those weapons of mass destruction, hell
            bent on having a credible approach to them, but we should try to do it in a way
            which keeps the world together and that achieves our goal which is removing
            the… defanging Saddam..” — Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Dec. 9, 2002

            Online
            with Jim Lehrer — Public Broadcasting Service

            “We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical
            weapons throughout his country.” — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

            Transcript
            of Gore’s speech, printed in USA Today

            “Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to
            deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in
            power.” — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

            Transcript
            of Gore’s speech, printed in USA Today

            “We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing
            weapons of mass destruction.” — Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27,
            2002

            U.S.
            Senate — Ted Kennedy

            “The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
            confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological
            weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his
            chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that
            he is seeking nuclear weapons…” — Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Robert Byrd

            “When I vote to give the President of the United States the authority to use
            force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein, it is because I believe that a
            deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a threat, and a
            grave threat, to our security and that of our allies in the Persian Gulf region.
            I will vote yes because I believe it is the best way to hold Saddam Hussein
            accountable.” —Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9,2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. John F. Kerry

            “There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively
            to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next
            five years .. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress
            Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.” — Sen. Jay
            Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. Jay Rockefeller

            “He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every
            significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his
            chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused
            to do” — Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

            Congressional Record —
            Rep. Henry Waxman

            “In 1998, the United States also changed its underlying policy toward Iraq
            from containment to regime change and began to examine options to effect such a
            change, including support for Iraqi opposition leaders within the country and
            abroad. In the 4 years since the inspectors, intelligence reports show that
            Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock,
            his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid,
            comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaida members, though there
            is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September
            11, 2001.

            “It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein
            wiill continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical
            warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in
            that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle
            East which, as we know all too well, affects American security.”
            Sen. Hillary
            Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. Hillary Clinton

            “The Joint Chiefs should provide Congress with casualty estimates for a war
            in Iraq as they have done in advance of every past conflict. These estimates
            should consider Saddam’s possible use of chemical or biological weapons against
            our troops.

            “Unlike the gulf war, many experts believe Saddam would
            resort to chemical and biological weapons against our troops in a desperate
            -attempt to save his regime if he believes he and his regime are ultimately
            threatened.”
            Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) Oct. 8, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. Ted Kennedy

            “There is one thing we agree upon, and that is that Saddam Hussein is an
            evil man. He is a tyrant. He has used chemical and biological weapons on his own
            people. He has disregarded United Nations resolutions calling for inspections of
            his capabilities and research and development programs. His forces regularly
            fire on American and British jet pilots enforcing the no-fly zones in the north
            and south of his country. And he has the potential to develop and deploy nuclear
            weapons… — Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. Bob Graham

            But inspectors have had a hard time getting truthful information from the
            Iraqis they interview. Saddam Hussein terrorizes his people, including his
            weapons scientists, so effectively that they are afraid to be interviewed in
            private, let alone outside the country. They know that even the appearance of
            cooperation could be a death sentence for themselves or their
            families.

            “To overcome this obstacle, and to discover and dismantle
            Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction, UNMOVIC and the IAEA must
            interview relevant persons securely and with their families protected, even if
            they protest publicly against this treatment. Hans Blix may dislike running ”a
            defection agency,’ but that could be the only way to obtain truthful information
            about Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction — Sen. Joseph Biden

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. Joseph Biden

            “With respect to Saddam Hussein and the threat he presents, we must ask
            ourselves a simple question: Why? Why is Saddam Hussein pursuing weapons that
            most nations have agreed to limit or give up? Why is Saddam Hussein guilty of
            breaking his own cease-fire agreement with the international community? Why is
            Saddam Hussein attempting to develop nuclear weapons when most nations don’t
            even try, and responsible nations that have them attempt to limit their
            potential for disaster? Why did Saddam Hussein threaten and provoke? Why does he
            develop missiles that exceed allowable limits? Why did Saddam Hussein lie and
            deceive the inspection teams previously? Why did Saddam Hussein not account for
            all of the weapons of mass destruction which UNSCOM identified? Why is he
            seeking to develop unmanned airborne vehicles for delivery of biological
            agents?
            Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), October 9, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. John F. Kerry

            “Saddam Hussein’s regime represents a grave threat to America and our
            allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam
            Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We
            know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them
            against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know
            that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that
            each day he gets closer to achieving that goal.

            “Iraq has continued to
            seek nuclear weapons and develop its arsenal in defiance of the collective will
            of the international community, as expressed through the United Nations Security
            Council. It is violating the terms of the 1991 cease-fire that ended the Gulf
            war and as many as 16 Security Council resolutions, including 11 resolutions
            concerning Iraq’s efforts to develop weapons of mass destruction. — Sen. John
            Edwards, October 10, 2002

          • reasoning with facts

            Democrats about WMD

            “One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to
            develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is
            our bottom line.”
            President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
            Quoted on CNN

            “If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We
            want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass
            destruction program.” — President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
            Quoted on CNN

            Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal
            here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical
            or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat
            we face.” — Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
            Transcript of remarks made at a Town Hall meeting in Columbus, Ohio — from USIA

            “He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times
            since 1983.” — Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb 18, 1998

            Transcript of remarks made at a Town Hall Meeting in Columbus, Ohio — From USIA
            “We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the US
            Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air
            and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat
            posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.” —
            Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI), Tom Daschle
            (D-SD), John Kerry (D — MA), and others Oct. 9, 1998

            See
            letter to Clinton by Levin, Daschle, Kerry and others

            “Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
            destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has
            made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.” — Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA),
            Dec. 16, 1998

            Statement
            by Rep. Nancy Pelosi — House of Representatives website

            “Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass
            destruction and palaces for his cronies.” — Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary
            of State, Nov. 10, 1999

            Answer
            to a question at the Chicago Council of Foreign Affairs

            “There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons
            programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs
            continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam
            continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a
            licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the
            United States and our allies.” — Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen Bob
            Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

            Letter to President
            George W. Bush signed by 9 Congressmen, including Democrats Harold Ford, Jr.,
            Joseph Lieberman, and Benjamin Gilman.

            ” We should be hell bent on getting those weapons of mass destruction, hell
            bent on having a credible approach to them, but we should try to do it in a way
            which keeps the world together and that achieves our goal which is removing
            the… defanging Saddam..” — Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Dec. 9, 2002

            Online
            with Jim Lehrer — Public Broadcasting Service

            “We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical
            weapons throughout his country.” — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

            Transcript
            of Gore’s speech, printed in USA Today

            “Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to
            deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in
            power.” — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

            Transcript
            of Gore’s speech, printed in USA Today

            “We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing
            weapons of mass destruction.” — Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27,
            2002

            U.S.
            Senate — Ted Kennedy

            “The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
            confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological
            weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his
            chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that
            he is seeking nuclear weapons…” — Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Robert Byrd

            “When I vote to give the President of the United States the authority to use
            force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein, it is because I believe that a
            deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a threat, and a
            grave threat, to our security and that of our allies in the Persian Gulf region.
            I will vote yes because I believe it is the best way to hold Saddam Hussein
            accountable.” —Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9,2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. John F. Kerry

            “There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively
            to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next
            five years .. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress
            Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.” — Sen. Jay
            Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. Jay Rockefeller

            “He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every
            significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his
            chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused
            to do” — Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

            Congressional Record —
            Rep. Henry Waxman

            “In 1998, the United States also changed its underlying policy toward Iraq
            from containment to regime change and began to examine options to effect such a
            change, including support for Iraqi opposition leaders within the country and
            abroad. In the 4 years since the inspectors, intelligence reports show that
            Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock,
            his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid,
            comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaida members, though there
            is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September
            11, 2001.

            “It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein
            wiill continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical
            warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in
            that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle
            East which, as we know all too well, affects American security.”
            Sen. Hillary
            Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. Hillary Clinton

            “The Joint Chiefs should provide Congress with casualty estimates for a war
            in Iraq as they have done in advance of every past conflict. These estimates
            should consider Saddam’s possible use of chemical or biological weapons against
            our troops.

            “Unlike the gulf war, many experts believe Saddam would
            resort to chemical and biological weapons against our troops in a desperate
            -attempt to save his regime if he believes he and his regime are ultimately
            threatened.”
            Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) Oct. 8, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. Ted Kennedy

            “There is one thing we agree upon, and that is that Saddam Hussein is an
            evil man. He is a tyrant. He has used chemical and biological weapons on his own
            people. He has disregarded United Nations resolutions calling for inspections of
            his capabilities and research and development programs. His forces regularly
            fire on American and British jet pilots enforcing the no-fly zones in the north
            and south of his country. And he has the potential to develop and deploy nuclear
            weapons… — Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. Bob Graham

            But inspectors have had a hard time getting truthful information from the
            Iraqis they interview. Saddam Hussein terrorizes his people, including his
            weapons scientists, so effectively that they are afraid to be interviewed in
            private, let alone outside the country. They know that even the appearance of
            cooperation could be a death sentence for themselves or their
            families.

            “To overcome this obstacle, and to discover and dismantle
            Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction, UNMOVIC and the IAEA must
            interview relevant persons securely and with their families protected, even if
            they protest publicly against this treatment. Hans Blix may dislike running ”a
            defection agency,’ but that could be the only way to obtain truthful information
            about Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction — Sen. Joseph Biden

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. Joseph Biden

            “With respect to Saddam Hussein and the threat he presents, we must ask
            ourselves a simple question: Why? Why is Saddam Hussein pursuing weapons that
            most nations have agreed to limit or give up? Why is Saddam Hussein guilty of
            breaking his own cease-fire agreement with the international community? Why is
            Saddam Hussein attempting to develop nuclear weapons when most nations don’t
            even try, and responsible nations that have them attempt to limit their
            potential for disaster? Why did Saddam Hussein threaten and provoke? Why does he
            develop missiles that exceed allowable limits? Why did Saddam Hussein lie and
            deceive the inspection teams previously? Why did Saddam Hussein not account for
            all of the weapons of mass destruction which UNSCOM identified? Why is he
            seeking to develop unmanned airborne vehicles for delivery of biological
            agents?
            Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), October 9, 2002

            Congressional
            Record — Sen. John F. Kerry

            “Saddam Hussein’s regime represents a grave threat to America and our
            allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam
            Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We
            know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them
            against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know
            that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that
            each day he gets closer to achieving that goal.

            “Iraq has continued to
            seek nuclear weapons and develop its arsenal in defiance of the collective will
            of the international community, as expressed through the United Nations Security
            Council. It is violating the terms of the 1991 cease-fire that ended the Gulf
            war and as many as 16 Security Council resolutions, including 11 resolutions
            concerning Iraq’s efforts to develop weapons of mass destruction. — Sen. John
            Edwards, October 10, 2002

          • LibertyMonger

            This pathetic “you’re a racist” tactic doesn’t fly anymore LMAO! Obama could kick your grandma and you would make excuse for him! Oh by the way most of us smart ones who don’t fall for the lies are against Bush just as much, in case you are too stupid to know this. We are against corruption and lies fool!

          • LibertyMonger

            This pathetic “you’re a racist” tactic doesn’t fly anymore LMAO! Obama could kick your grandma and you would make excuse for him! Oh by the way most of us smart ones who don’t fall for the lies are against Bush just as much, in case you are too stupid to know this. We are against corruption and lies fool!

          • LibertyMonger

            This pathetic “you’re a racist” tactic doesn’t fly anymore LMAO! Obama could kick your grandma and you would make excuse for him! Oh by the way most of us smart ones who don’t fall for the lies are against Bush just as much, in case you are too stupid to know this. We are against corruption and lies fool!

          • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

            Truthfully , I’m really sure mostAmericans who hate BHO, WISH IT WAS BECAUSE HE’S BLACK. Being black is the veriest least of his problems with the American people. . The race card is really old and a very tired excuse. It no longer flies with the American people. You’ve used that one all up, doesn’t work anymore. Got anything else new?

          • panors77

            Of course he doesn’t. And also of course voting for Herman Cain, Condeliza Rice, Colin Powell, Alan Keyes, Alan West don’t count since they don’t count as black people with obamabots like this.

          • panors77

            Of course he doesn’t. And also of course voting for Herman Cain, Condeliza Rice, Colin Powell, Alan Keyes, Alan West don’t count since they don’t count as black people with obamabots like this.

          • panors77

            Of course he doesn’t. And also of course voting for Herman Cain, Condeliza Rice, Colin Powell, Alan Keyes, Alan West don’t count since they don’t count as black people with obamabots like this.

          • panors77

            Of course he doesn’t. And also of course voting for Herman Cain, Condeliza Rice, Colin Powell, Alan Keyes, Alan West don’t count since they don’t count as black people with obamabots like this.

          • skitzo

            He won the election and has a higher popularity rating than anyone opposing him. Hillary has an even higher rating. And most people in the polls, like 60 percent, believe Bengazi is a trumped up issue that pales in comparison to lying about WMDs and many thousands dead.

          • skitzo

            He won the election and has a higher popularity rating than anyone opposing him. Hillary has an even higher rating. And most people in the polls, like 60 percent, believe Bengazi is a trumped up issue that pales in comparison to lying about WMDs and many thousands dead.

          • skitzo

            He won the election and has a higher popularity rating than anyone opposing him. Hillary has an even higher rating. And most people in the polls, like 60 percent, believe Bengazi is a trumped up issue that pales in comparison to lying about WMDs and many thousands dead.

          • skitzo

            He won the election and has a higher popularity rating than anyone opposing him. Hillary has an even higher rating. And most people in the polls, like 60 percent, believe Bengazi is a trumped up issue that pales in comparison to lying about WMDs and many thousands dead.

          • skitzo

            you are southern, and you believe that democrats are destroying white America. You said so yourself. That makes you a racist, darlin.’ You may find “the race card” tiresome, but that is because it is critical of you. And your cheap shot at “blue states” is a bit weak. The big blue states, i.e., New York, California, Illinois, Massachusetts all send in more money to the federal government in tax revenue than they get back in government aid, whereas the southern states all get far more aid than they put in. The red states are more backward when it comes to education, standard of living and overall quality of life. We’re dragging you inbred crackers along with us. It wouldn’t bother me if the south seceded from the union, except then we’d have to provide you with foreign aid because you can’t even take care of yourselves.

          • Rufrignkidnme

            You call people inbred crackers.. and they’re the racists?

          • Rufrignkidnme

            You call people inbred crackers.. and they’re the racists?

          • Rufrignkidnme

            You call people inbred crackers.. and they’re the racists?

          • Rufrignkidnme

            You call people inbred crackers.. and they’re the racists?

          • skitzo

            you are southern, and you believe that democrats are destroying white America. You said so yourself. That makes you a racist, darlin.’ You may find “the race card” tiresome, but that is because it is critical of you. And your cheap shot at “blue states” is a bit weak. The big blue states, i.e., New York, California, Illinois, Massachusetts all send in more money to the federal government in tax revenue than they get back in government aid, whereas the southern states all get far more aid than they put in. The red states are more backward when it comes to education, standard of living and overall quality of life. We’re dragging you inbred crackers along with us. It wouldn’t bother me if the south seceded from the union, except then we’d have to provide you with foreign aid because you can’t even take care of yourselves.

          • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

            Truthfully , I’m really sure mostAmericans who hate BHO, WISH IT WAS BECAUSE HE’S BLACK. Being black is the veriest least of his problems with the American people. . The race card is really old and a very tired excuse. It no longer flies with the American people. You’ve used that one all up, doesn’t work anymore. Got anything else new?

          • DCW16

            “Obama is no worse than any other president”

            Really . . . he is the laughing stock of the world !

            He has spent more than all the other US Presidents combined !

            He would not know the “Truth” if it fell on him from a great height !

            “you in here hate him more because he is a black man”

            Actually . . . he’s 1/2 white, 3/8′s arab and 1/8 black . . . . and you were sayin ?

            As MLK would say “it’s not about the color of his skin . . . it’s about the Content of his CHARACTER” . . .

            Or would he say “Absence of Character” in regards to the O?

          • DCW16

            “Obama is no worse than any other president”

            Really . . . he is the laughing stock of the world !

            He has spent more than all the other US Presidents combined !

            He would not know the “Truth” if it fell on him from a great height !

            “you in here hate him more because he is a black man”

            Actually . . . he’s 1/2 white, 3/8′s arab and 1/8 black . . . . and you were sayin ?

            As MLK would say “it’s not about the color of his skin . . . it’s about the Content of his CHARACTER” . . .

            Or would he say “Absence of Character” in regards to the O?

          • panors77

            No….we hate him for his communist policies, his setting himself up for dictatorship with the likes of the NDAA and his EO for drone strikes on American citizens on US soil, and also we hate the fact that being born in Kenya he was successful at fooling YOU “bots” into thinking he was born in Hawaii with a fake birth certificate. Of course with you bots you really don’t care where the “president” comes from or whether he’s a natural born citizen or not, as long as the communist agenda gets “forwarded”. (Hey THERE’s a buzzword, right out of the manifesto huh?) We don’t care what color he is, but his “transforming America” ideal goes all the way back to Chruschev. He is a true follower of his mentors William Ayers, Frank Marshall Davis, his communist parents and grandparents. Of course…..that’s “ok” with you guys since it IS your agenda.

          • skitzo

            He’s not a communist. Read something about communism before you make that claim.

            He is being overaggressive in the war on terror and fighting Islamists, yet you also believe he is Islamic?
            He has no plan for drone strikes on American soil.
            There is no proof that he was born anywhere but Hawaii, as many courts have ruled. Its a nutcase position.
            All that stuff you said is just made-up BS. He is not a communist. He believes in market principles. He is a University of Chicago guy–the headquarters for free market capitalists. The stock market is booming under his administration.
            You are a paranoid who believes what idiots tell you.

          • skitzo

            He’s not a communist. Read something about communism before you make that claim.

            He is being overaggressive in the war on terror and fighting Islamists, yet you also believe he is Islamic?
            He has no plan for drone strikes on American soil.
            There is no proof that he was born anywhere but Hawaii, as many courts have ruled. Its a nutcase position.
            All that stuff you said is just made-up BS. He is not a communist. He believes in market principles. He is a University of Chicago guy–the headquarters for free market capitalists. The stock market is booming under his administration.
            You are a paranoid who believes what idiots tell you.

          • skitzo

            He’s not a communist. Read something about communism before you make that claim.

            He is being overaggressive in the war on terror and fighting Islamists, yet you also believe he is Islamic?
            He has no plan for drone strikes on American soil.
            There is no proof that he was born anywhere but Hawaii, as many courts have ruled. Its a nutcase position.
            All that stuff you said is just made-up BS. He is not a communist. He believes in market principles. He is a University of Chicago guy–the headquarters for free market capitalists. The stock market is booming under his administration.
            You are a paranoid who believes what idiots tell you.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You know the NDAA guarantees we get to keep using the Suez canal and that Egypt will not attack Israel. You do not even know the definition of a communist is.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You know the NDAA guarantees we get to keep using the Suez canal and that Egypt will not attack Israel. You do not even know the definition of a communist is.

          • panors77

            No….we hate him for his communist policies, his setting himself up for dictatorship with the likes of the NDAA and his EO for drone strikes on American citizens on US soil, and also we hate the fact that being born in Kenya he was successful at fooling YOU “bots” into thinking he was born in Hawaii with a fake birth certificate. Of course with you bots you really don’t care where the “president” comes from or whether he’s a natural born citizen or not, as long as the communist agenda gets “forwarded”. (Hey THERE’s a buzzword, right out of the manifesto huh?) We don’t care what color he is, but his “transforming America” ideal goes all the way back to Chruschev. He is a true follower of his mentors William Ayers, Frank Marshall Davis, his communist parents and grandparents. Of course…..that’s “ok” with you guys since it IS your agenda.

          • panors77

            No….we hate him for his communist policies, his setting himself up for dictatorship with the likes of the NDAA and his EO for drone strikes on American citizens on US soil, and also we hate the fact that being born in Kenya he was successful at fooling YOU “bots” into thinking he was born in Hawaii with a fake birth certificate. Of course with you bots you really don’t care where the “president” comes from or whether he’s a natural born citizen or not, as long as the communist agenda gets “forwarded”. (Hey THERE’s a buzzword, right out of the manifesto huh?) We don’t care what color he is, but his “transforming America” ideal goes all the way back to Chruschev. He is a true follower of his mentors William Ayers, Frank Marshall Davis, his communist parents and grandparents. Of course…..that’s “ok” with you guys since it IS your agenda.

          • panors77

            No….we hate him for his communist policies, his setting himself up for dictatorship with the likes of the NDAA and his EO for drone strikes on American citizens on US soil, and also we hate the fact that being born in Kenya he was successful at fooling YOU “bots” into thinking he was born in Hawaii with a fake birth certificate. Of course with you bots you really don’t care where the “president” comes from or whether he’s a natural born citizen or not, as long as the communist agenda gets “forwarded”. (Hey THERE’s a buzzword, right out of the manifesto huh?) We don’t care what color he is, but his “transforming America” ideal goes all the way back to Chruschev. He is a true follower of his mentors William Ayers, Frank Marshall Davis, his communist parents and grandparents. Of course…..that’s “ok” with you guys since it IS your agenda.

          • Doug Ducat

            So you would say that since most politicians lie that makes it acceptable for our president to lie? Is that right?

          • skitzo

            They make promises to get elected and then can’t deliver on them. And they make more promises they can’t deliver upon because they want to be reelected. Presidents, even when acting properly, can’t tell us everything because we the people cannot be trusted with a secret.

          • skitzo

            They make promises to get elected and then can’t deliver on them. And they make more promises they can’t deliver upon because they want to be reelected. Presidents, even when acting properly, can’t tell us everything because we the people cannot be trusted with a secret.

          • panors77

            Oh BTW…..how many times did YOU vote for BO? More or less than Melowese Richardson?

          • panors77

            Oh BTW…..how many times did YOU vote for BO? More or less than Melowese Richardson?

          • skitzo

            What? That makes no sense.

          • skitzo

            What? That makes no sense.

          • skitzo

            What? That makes no sense.

          • skitzo

            What? That makes no sense.

          • panors77

            Oh BTW…..how many times did YOU vote for BO? More or less than Melowese Richardson?

          • panors77

            Oh BTW…..how many times did YOU vote for BO? More or less than Melowese Richardson?

          • Some call me…..Tim

            Ohhhhh please spare us the racism! We really don’t give a damn if Oboingo is pink with purple polkadots! This has absolutely NOTHING to do with race you moron, it’s about competency. But now that I think of it, you DO sound awfully RAAAAAAACIST!

          • Some call me…..Tim

            Ohhhhh please spare us the racism! We really don’t give a damn if Oboingo is pink with purple polkadots! This has absolutely NOTHING to do with race you moron, it’s about competency. But now that I think of it, you DO sound awfully RAAAAAAACIST!

          • Some call me…..Tim

            Ohhhhh please spare us the racism! We really don’t give a damn if Oboingo is pink with purple polkadots! This has absolutely NOTHING to do with race you moron, it’s about competency. But now that I think of it, you DO sound awfully RAAAAAAACIST!

          • Doc

            Here’s the exact quote, Skitzo and I’m descended from Lord Acton!

            “I cannot accept your canon that we are to judge Pope and King unlike other men with a favourable presumption that they did no wrong. If there is any presumption, it is the other way, against the holders of power, increasing as the power increases. Historic responsibility has to make up for the want of legal responsibility. All power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority: still more when you superadd the tendency or certainty of corruption by full authority. There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it.” Lord John Acton

          • Doc

            Here’s the exact quote, Skitzo and I’m descended from Lord Acton!

            “I cannot accept your canon that we are to judge Pope and King unlike other men with a favourable presumption that they did no wrong. If there is any presumption, it is the other way, against the holders of power, increasing as the power increases. Historic responsibility has to make up for the want of legal responsibility. All power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority: still more when you superadd the tendency or certainty of corruption by full authority. There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it.” Lord John Acton

          • Doc

            Here’s the exact quote, Skitzo and I’m descended from Lord Acton!

            “I cannot accept your canon that we are to judge Pope and King unlike other men with a favourable presumption that they did no wrong. If there is any presumption, it is the other way, against the holders of power, increasing as the power increases. Historic responsibility has to make up for the want of legal responsibility. All power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority: still more when you superadd the tendency or certainty of corruption by full authority. There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it.” Lord John Acton

          • Doc

            Here’s the exact quote, Skitzo and I’m descended from Lord Acton!

            “I cannot accept your canon that we are to judge Pope and King unlike other men with a favourable presumption that they did no wrong. If there is any presumption, it is the other way, against the holders of power, increasing as the power increases. Historic responsibility has to make up for the want of legal responsibility. All power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority: still more when you superadd the tendency or certainty of corruption by full authority. There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it.” Lord John Acton

          • skitzo

            What politicians don’t lie to the people? You have to lie to get elected. and once in power, you want to stay in power and will do what it takes. One of the wisest and most simple statements was made by Lord Acton a few hundred years ago: “power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.” Obama is no worse than any other president, except many of you in here hate him more because he is a black man.

          • skitzo

            What politicians don’t lie to the people? You have to lie to get elected. and once in power, you want to stay in power and will do what it takes. One of the wisest and most simple statements was made by Lord Acton a few hundred years ago: “power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.” Obama is no worse than any other president, except many of you in here hate him more because he is a black man.

          • skitzo

            What politicians don’t lie to the people? You have to lie to get elected. and once in power, you want to stay in power and will do what it takes. One of the wisest and most simple statements was made by Lord Acton a few hundred years ago: “power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.” Obama is no worse than any other president, except many of you in here hate him more because he is a black man.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are typical sort of coward from the republibot party – throwing insults from the safety of your laptop! LOL This is why no one takes you people serious. You are SO eager to find a conspiracy you look foolish in your one sentence PROOFS of misconduct reaching the President or Secretary of State. When you want an education – hit me up – I can also teach you some respect – boy.

          • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

            No, I think your confused about what is typical for the parties. We don’t have to look very far where BHO is concerned

          • http://www.facebook.com/brenda.l.herbert Brenda L. Herbert

            No, I think your confused about what is typical for the parties. We don’t have to look very far where BHO is concerned

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are typical sort of coward from the republibot party – throwing insults from the safety of your laptop! LOL This is why no one takes you people serious. You are SO eager to find a conspiracy you look foolish in your one sentence PROOFS of misconduct reaching the President or Secretary of State. When you want an education – hit me up – I can also teach you some respect – boy.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are an idiot and a moron.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are an idiot and a moron.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are an idiot and a moron.

        • http://www.facebook.com/jeffharris1701 Jeff Harris

          Captric: you’re a moron. Conspiracy theory? How ’bout the fact that the Obama regime has been lying to the American people?

        • http://www.facebook.com/jeffharris1701 Jeff Harris

          Captric: you’re a moron. Conspiracy theory? How ’bout the fact that the Obama regime has been lying to the American people?

        • http://www.facebook.com/jeffharris1701 Jeff Harris

          Captric: you’re a moron. Conspiracy theory? How ’bout the fact that the Obama regime has been lying to the American people?

        • Credible Hulk

          Ghosts? Way to display your willful ignorance and bias granny. Get educated. 1) Historiography has authenticated the Resurrection as a highly probable historical event and that Jesus/Yahushua performed healings for which there are no known, obvious natural explanations. 2) Numerous prophecies such as the destruction of the Temple, Jerusalem and the Jews being taken captive into all the nations in Leviticus 26, written over 1000 years before the occurrence in 70 AD within one generation of the killing of the Messiah prophesied in Daniel 9, have no reasonable naturalistic explanations. You obvious seek attention posting in such a manner, gootchie-goo-goo, granny, gootchie-goo-goo….feel better?

          • TJefferson44

            Credible …. it’s really a waste of time to try to even give any type of encouragement for faith the to the likes of 71 year old granmas (captric) who are closer to the grave and eternal judgment that they’re aware of. If she really is 71, how sad it must be to have lived so long and to have totally missed God. You really have to be blind to do that for so long! Sad.

          • TJefferson44

            Credible …. it’s really a waste of time to try to even give any type of encouragement for faith the to the likes of 71 year old granmas (captric) who are closer to the grave and eternal judgment that they’re aware of. If she really is 71, how sad it must be to have lived so long and to have totally missed God. You really have to be blind to do that for so long! Sad.

          • Hoodoo H

            You do have to try and plant the seed though.

          • Hoodoo H

            You do have to try and plant the seed though.

          • Hoodoo H

            You do have to try and plant the seed though.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are not even smart enough to figure out who has repied to who here. Go back to your mothers basement.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are not even smart enough to figure out who has repied to who here. Go back to your mothers basement.

          • skitzo

            Judge not, lest ye be judged. If you believe, then follow the teachings instead of pretending that God gave you the power to cast others into the darkness. don’t be so full of yourself. A devout man is a humble man, not a judgmental jerk.

          • panors77

            “Beleiving themselves to be wise they became as fools, exchanging the truth of the Gospel for a lie”……

          • panors77

            “Beleiving themselves to be wise they became as fools, exchanging the truth of the Gospel for a lie”……

          • skitzo

            Judge not, lest ye be judged. If you believe, then follow the teachings instead of pretending that God gave you the power to cast others into the darkness. don’t be so full of yourself. A devout man is a humble man, not a judgmental jerk.

          • skitzo

            Judge not, lest ye be judged. If you believe, then follow the teachings instead of pretending that God gave you the power to cast others into the darkness. don’t be so full of yourself. A devout man is a humble man, not a judgmental jerk.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            How sad it is for someone like you to go through life basing your decissions and your moral compass on a 2000 year old bronze age cult that has been proven time and again to be a fraud.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You stories of god/men and most of the magical tricks attributed to Jesus were borrowed from earlier religions. What makes the same stories told before jesus a myth but when borrowed and attributed to jesus they are suddenly proof of his divine origination?

          • panors77

            Correction comrade……….most of those “mystery religions” came AFTER Christ into the 3rd century and later. Also the Bible was written by eyewitness testimony or close associates of eyewitnesses to the events. Remember also no phone lines, no computers, no internet. The writers lived hundreds of miles apart from one another and some hundreds of years apart.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            No they didn’t – take a college level course in Greek Mythology!!! Jesus stories were in the stories of Gilgamesh – fully 3000 years before Jesus was a twinkle in Josephs eye. What kin of people actually believe that magic is real? Oh ya – REPUBLIBOTS.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            No they didn’t – take a college level course in Greek Mythology!!! Jesus stories were in the stories of Gilgamesh – fully 3000 years before Jesus was a twinkle in Josephs eye. What kin of people actually believe that magic is real? Oh ya – REPUBLIBOTS.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            No they didn’t – take a college level course in Greek Mythology!!! Jesus stories were in the stories of Gilgamesh – fully 3000 years before Jesus was a twinkle in Josephs eye. What kin of people actually believe that magic is real? Oh ya – REPUBLIBOTS.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            No they didn’t – take a college level course in Greek Mythology!!! Jesus stories were in the stories of Gilgamesh – fully 3000 years before Jesus was a twinkle in Josephs eye. What kin of people actually believe that magic is real? Oh ya – REPUBLIBOTS.

          • panors77

            Correction comrade……….most of those “mystery religions” came AFTER Christ into the 3rd century and later. Also the Bible was written by eyewitness testimony or close associates of eyewitnesses to the events. Remember also no phone lines, no computers, no internet. The writers lived hundreds of miles apart from one another and some hundreds of years apart.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You stories of god/men and most of the magical tricks attributed to Jesus were borrowed from earlier religions. What makes the same stories told before jesus a myth but when borrowed and attributed to jesus they are suddenly proof of his divine origination?

          • skitzo

            That is not education you will get in any of the world’s major universities. No credentialed history professor would say its proven true. And if it is true, then why are you not trying to be like Jesus, instead of being so nasty? The most important thing about Jesus is his message.
            I suspect you didn’t even go to college and barely made it through high school, so you don’t have a lot of credibility when it comes to academic assertions.

          • skitzo

            That is not education you will get in any of the world’s major universities. No credentialed history professor would say its proven true. And if it is true, then why are you not trying to be like Jesus, instead of being so nasty? The most important thing about Jesus is his message.
            I suspect you didn’t even go to college and barely made it through high school, so you don’t have a lot of credibility when it comes to academic assertions.

          • panors77

            Problem with your “credentialed history professors” these days is they are communist/marxist influenced which reflects their curriculim.
            So I guess only the college indoctrinated have any credibility eh? I guess Abe Lincoln just doesn’t fit the grade huh?

          • skitzo

            Communism is a dead ideology. Very few in the world believe in it. Including the Chinese– our number 1 trading partner. They don’t practice it any more. Red scare BS ended a long time ago. Professors are all over the board, although many are humanists. University education was less common 200 years ago and Abe Lincoln learned to be a lawyer by apprenticing.

          • skitzo

            Communism is a dead ideology. Very few in the world believe in it. Including the Chinese– our number 1 trading partner. They don’t practice it any more. Red scare BS ended a long time ago. Professors are all over the board, although many are humanists. University education was less common 200 years ago and Abe Lincoln learned to be a lawyer by apprenticing.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Communist/ marxist??? Are you even aware that the two titles are mutually exclusive? You certainly belong to the correct party – the Republitards.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Communist/ marxist??? Are you even aware that the two titles are mutually exclusive? You certainly belong to the correct party – the Republitards.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Communist/ marxist??? Are you even aware that the two titles are mutually exclusive? You certainly belong to the correct party – the Republitards.

          • panors77

            Problem with your “credentialed history professors” these days is they are communist/marxist influenced which reflects their curriculim.
            So I guess only the college indoctrinated have any credibility eh? I guess Abe Lincoln just doesn’t fit the grade huh?

          • panors77

            Problem with your “credentialed history professors” these days is they are communist/marxist influenced which reflects their curriculim.
            So I guess only the college indoctrinated have any credibility eh? I guess Abe Lincoln just doesn’t fit the grade huh?

          • skitzo

            That is not education you will get in any of the world’s major universities. No credentialed history professor would say its proven true. And if it is true, then why are you not trying to be like Jesus, instead of being so nasty? The most important thing about Jesus is his message.
            I suspect you didn’t even go to college and barely made it through high school, so you don’t have a lot of credibility when it comes to academic assertions.

          • skitzo

            That is not education you will get in any of the world’s major universities. No credentialed history professor would say its proven true. And if it is true, then why are you not trying to be like Jesus, instead of being so nasty? The most important thing about Jesus is his message.
            I suspect you didn’t even go to college and barely made it through high school, so you don’t have a lot of credibility when it comes to academic assertions.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000146477536 Mike Reyn

            libs dislike facts dont you know that

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000146477536 Mike Reyn

            libs dislike facts dont you know that

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000146477536 Mike Reyn

            libs dislike facts dont you know that

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000146477536 Mike Reyn

            libs dislike facts dont you know that

          • panors77

            Don’t forget Isaiah 53. Written over 400 years before the birth of Christ.

          • panors77

            Don’t forget Isaiah 53. Written over 400 years before the birth of Christ.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Historiography????? LOL What a moron.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Historiography????? LOL What a moron.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Historiography????? LOL What a moron.

        • Jack_Reacher

          @captric … I will be so glad when you finally work up enough courage to come out of the closet. You’re such a bltch … and a dumb one, too!

        • Jack_Reacher

          @captric … I will be so glad when you finally work up enough courage to come out of the closet. You’re such a bltch … and a dumb one, too!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Is that your real name —or is it jack off — that would be a lot more descriptive as a low level conspiracy theorist like you.LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Is that your real name —or is it jack off — that would be a lot more descriptive as a low level conspiracy theorist like you.LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Put your pants back on Fag boy ——-

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Put your pants back on Fag boy ——-

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Put your pants back on Fag boy ——-

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Put your pants back on Fag boy ——-

          • JJ MILLIS

            Oh, how cowardly. When you have nothing to argue with, you attack his sexuality. That’s a real BITCH MOVE, BITCH!!!

          • JJ MILLIS

            Oh, how cowardly. When you have nothing to argue with, you attack his sexuality. That’s a real BITCH MOVE, BITCH!!!

          • JJ MILLIS

            Oh, how cowardly. When you have nothing to argue with, you attack his sexuality. That’s a real BITCH MOVE, BITCH!!!

        • reggiec

          Ignore captic! He, she, it is probably one of the minimum wage losers hired by Obama to troll on here to redirect the story. It woked somewhat, besides my post, 6 others wasted time on the idiot.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Oh – our post is not wasted reggie boy. You have helped show the entire world what a desperate bunch of sore loosers you are with your desperate attempts to create a conspiracy where none exists.

          • skitzo

            I doubt the entire world gives a crap about this website. It is an echo chamber for extremists and racists.

          • LibertyMonger

            Too Bad so sad for you Obama BOY! Your world is crumbling and the sad thing is you stick up for this criminal and Obama is not even on your side! So now who is the FOOL! It’s we the people who are being raped by our government and you side against humanity and your fellow brethren? WOW you are a dumb a$$

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            We will see in the next election cycle who your side can field. The best you could come up with last time was richie rich and I do not see anything better in the future. You are talking like a no nothing minimum wage earner who blames all of his problems on the President of the US. Get off your Fat A## and go get an education and travel to a foreign country. You will see that YOU are the ignorant one – not I. At least I can tell the difference between BS and fake conspiracy theories

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            We will see in the next election cycle who your side can field. The best you could come up with last time was richie rich and I do not see anything better in the future. You are talking like a no nothing minimum wage earner who blames all of his problems on the President of the US. Get off your Fat A## and go get an education and travel to a foreign country. You will see that YOU are the ignorant one – not I. At least I can tell the difference between BS and fake conspiracy theories

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            We will see in the next election cycle who your side can field. The best you could come up with last time was richie rich and I do not see anything better in the future. You are talking like a no nothing minimum wage earner who blames all of his problems on the President of the US. Get off your Fat A## and go get an education and travel to a foreign country. You will see that YOU are the ignorant one – not I. At least I can tell the difference between BS and fake conspiracy theories

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            We will see in the next election cycle who your side can field. The best you could come up with last time was richie rich and I do not see anything better in the future. You are talking like a no nothing minimum wage earner who blames all of his problems on the President of the US. Get off your Fat A## and go get an education and travel to a foreign country. You will see that YOU are the ignorant one – not I. At least I can tell the difference between BS and fake conspiracy theories

          • LibertyMonger

            Too Bad so sad for you Obama BOY! Your world is crumbling and the sad thing is you stick up for this criminal and Obama is not even on your side! So now who is the FOOL! It’s we the people who are being raped by our government and you side against humanity and your fellow brethren? WOW you are a dumb a$$

          • LibertyMonger

            Too Bad so sad for you Obama BOY! Your world is crumbling and the sad thing is you stick up for this criminal and Obama is not even on your side! So now who is the FOOL! It’s we the people who are being raped by our government and you side against humanity and your fellow brethren? WOW you are a dumb a$$

          • LibertyMonger

            captric just wait til you realize the truth that he was covering up the fact that he was giving heat seeking missiles to OUR enemy Al Quaida, what excuses will you make for him then??? What a tool. Can’t even figure out Obama doesn’t give a rats a$$ about you and it is we the people who are paying dearly from you idiots supporting this evil! I can’t wait til your children or grandchildren figure out what kind of evil you supported!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            What evidence do you have for the President of the US giving MANPADS to Al Queda? You really are warped!!! Where do you get your information? From Breitbart and Limbaugh. It is guy like you that will sink any hope the Republibots have of winning another election. So GO for it! Provide us right here with your evidence!!!! LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            What evidence do you have for the President of the US giving MANPADS to Al Queda? You really are warped!!! Where do you get your information? From Breitbart and Limbaugh. It is guy like you that will sink any hope the Republibots have of winning another election. So GO for it! Provide us right here with your evidence!!!! LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            What evidence do you have for the President of the US giving MANPADS to Al Queda? You really are warped!!! Where do you get your information? From Breitbart and Limbaugh. It is guy like you that will sink any hope the Republibots have of winning another election. So GO for it! Provide us right here with your evidence!!!! LOL

          • LibertyMonger

            captric just wait til you realize the truth that he was covering up the fact that he was giving heat seeking missiles to OUR enemy Al Quaida, what excuses will you make for him then??? What a tool. Can’t even figure out Obama doesn’t give a rats a$$ about you and it is we the people who are paying dearly from you idiots supporting this evil! I can’t wait til your children or grandchildren figure out what kind of evil you supported!

          • tired

            Since you like to use this word so often, it’s “losers”.

          • tired

            Since you like to use this word so often, it’s “losers”.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Oh – our post is not wasted reggie boy. You have helped show the entire world what a desperate bunch of sore loosers you are with your desperate attempts to create a conspiracy where none exists.

        • DCW16

          Still stuckonstooopid?

          This is just the tip of the Iceberg . . . the marxist/mooooslime in the WH . . . lies every time he opens his mouth . . .
          Still to Come . . . Benghazi and how about those Phone Records . . . is the media glow about to leave town and ole floppy ears become the modern day tricky dick?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            LOLOLOL
            Marxist, leninist, communist, socialist — which is it now. The right needs to make up their mind because ALL of those titles are mutually exclusive you moron!

          • LibertyMonger

            It’s not about LEFT VS> RIGHT Fool! See how stupid you are? You fall for it like a chump! I am wasting my precious time arguing with such an idiot like yourself, thinking you are on the winning team just cause you support Obama. Now you are acting like a sore loser! How much more stupid can you be? Anyone that knows history knows this old divide and conquer tactic. Oldest trick in the Book! Name something Obama is doing for you Obama boy? He works for the banks and corporations JUST LIKE BUSH! EVIL PUPPETS! Wow I just cannot get over the sheer stupidity from you braindead zombies.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are the sore looser — you have so little constructive things to say you have to invent false conspiracies regarding the President and the Secretary of State. What an idiot.

          • LibertyMonger

            It’s not about LEFT VS> RIGHT Fool! See how stupid you are? You fall for it like a chump! I am wasting my precious time arguing with such an idiot like yourself, thinking you are on the winning team just cause you support Obama. Now you are acting like a sore loser! How much more stupid can you be? Anyone that knows history knows this old divide and conquer tactic. Oldest trick in the Book! Name something Obama is doing for you Obama boy? He works for the banks and corporations JUST LIKE BUSH! EVIL PUPPETS! Wow I just cannot get over the sheer stupidity from you braindead zombies.

          • LibertyMonger

            It’s not about LEFT VS> RIGHT Fool! See how stupid you are? You fall for it like a chump! I am wasting my precious time arguing with such an idiot like yourself, thinking you are on the winning team just cause you support Obama. Now you are acting like a sore loser! How much more stupid can you be? Anyone that knows history knows this old divide and conquer tactic. Oldest trick in the Book! Name something Obama is doing for you Obama boy? He works for the banks and corporations JUST LIKE BUSH! EVIL PUPPETS! Wow I just cannot get over the sheer stupidity from you braindead zombies.

          • DCW16

            The O is the WORST occupant of the WH in the History of the USA . . . He has SPENT more than ALL of the other Presidents ADDED TOGETHER . . .
            He Sealed his records, hung with Radicals all his life, Has a gaggle of 60′s loons and Radicals in the Exec Branch . . .
            Nothing to see here folks . . . keep drinking the kool-aide clown. . . .
            Did you know . . . All Marxists are Socialists, All commies are Socialists . . . and Most Dimmicraps are Socialists . . .
            He’s funding the Brotherhood . . . in Egypt, Syria and elsewhere. Where do you think his loyalties lie? Certainly not with the USA ! ! ! The clown will not even say “Moooooslime terrorist” . . . and name ONE time when he told the TRUTH !
            I know . . . he said today is Tuesday . . . LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            No you are wrong. There are actually Presidential Scholars who study this stuff and it turns out that BUSH is the worst President in US History. He and Cheney are also the first Administration to be WANTED for war crimes in a european country. Why do you think Bush is in hiding – is never seen – never speaks in public- never on the news.

          • DCW16

            History will determine who is the best and worst . . . Obammy is still in office . . . many folks are eagerly awaiting his becoming “History” . . . lol

            “Why do you think Bush is in hiding – is never seen – never speaks in public- never on the news.”

            That is Absolute NONSENSE ! ! !

            “War Crimes” . . . some Unhinged Euro leftists . . .
            The Congress and Senate voted to go to Afganistan and Iraq . . . and many dimmicraps voted yes. Even Kerry voted yes . . . before he voted NO. In 1999 many called Iraq an “Imminent Threat” . . who were they? Klinton, Albright, Kerry, Kennedy, Gore and many other dims.

            Where were you and the Euro Loons when the O went to Libya without the approval of Congress?

            But I do know . . . Bush kept the country SAFE for 8 years . . . unlike the O . . . who has had what . . . 6 or 8 terrorist attacks on US soil . . . he called it workplace violence . . .

            The best presidents of modern time . . . Ike, Reagan and Bush. Bush dealt with unique difficult times.

            Worst presidents . . . No. 1 will be O’bammy, then Carter and then FDR . . . we could also add Woodrow Wilson, the man that gave us the Federal Reserve ! ! !

            You seem like another “Low Information Voter” . . .

          • DCW16

            History will determine who is the best and worst . . . Obammy is still in office . . . many folks are eagerly awaiting his becoming “History” . . . lol

            “Why do you think Bush is in hiding – is never seen – never speaks in public- never on the news.”

            That is Absolute NONSENSE ! ! !

            “War Crimes” . . . some Unhinged Euro leftists . . .
            The Congress and Senate voted to go to Afganistan and Iraq . . . and many dimmicraps voted yes. Even Kerry voted yes . . . before he voted NO. In 1999 many called Iraq an “Imminent Threat” . . who were they? Klinton, Albright, Kerry, Kennedy, Gore and many other dims.

            Where were you and the Euro Loons when the O went to Libya without the approval of Congress?

            But I do know . . . Bush kept the country SAFE for 8 years . . . unlike the O . . . who has had what . . . 6 or 8 terrorist attacks on US soil . . . he called it workplace violence . . .

            The best presidents of modern time . . . Ike, Reagan and Bush. Bush dealt with unique difficult times.

            Worst presidents . . . No. 1 will be O’bammy, then Carter and then FDR . . . we could also add Woodrow Wilson, the man that gave us the Federal Reserve ! ! !

            You seem like another “Low Information Voter” . . .

          • DCW16

            History will determine who is the best and worst . . . Obammy is still in office . . . many folks are eagerly awaiting his becoming “History” . . . lol

            “Why do you think Bush is in hiding – is never seen – never speaks in public- never on the news.”

            That is Absolute NONSENSE ! ! !

            “War Crimes” . . . some Unhinged Euro leftists . . .
            The Congress and Senate voted to go to Afganistan and Iraq . . . and many dimmicraps voted yes. Even Kerry voted yes . . . before he voted NO. In 1999 many called Iraq an “Imminent Threat” . . who were they? Klinton, Albright, Kerry, Kennedy, Gore and many other dims.

            Where were you and the Euro Loons when the O went to Libya without the approval of Congress?

            But I do know . . . Bush kept the country SAFE for 8 years . . . unlike the O . . . who has had what . . . 6 or 8 terrorist attacks on US soil . . . he called it workplace violence . . .

            The best presidents of modern time . . . Ike, Reagan and Bush. Bush dealt with unique difficult times.

            Worst presidents . . . No. 1 will be O’bammy, then Carter and then FDR . . . we could also add Woodrow Wilson, the man that gave us the Federal Reserve ! ! !

            You seem like another “Low Information Voter” . . .

          • DCW16

            History will determine who is the best and worst . . . Obammy is still in office . . . many folks are eagerly awaiting his becoming “History” . . . lol

            “Why do you think Bush is in hiding – is never seen – never speaks in public- never on the news.”

            That is Absolute NONSENSE ! ! !

            “War Crimes” . . . some Unhinged Euro leftists . . .
            The Congress and Senate voted to go to Afganistan and Iraq . . . and many dimmicraps voted yes. Even Kerry voted yes . . . before he voted NO. In 1999 many called Iraq an “Imminent Threat” . . who were they? Klinton, Albright, Kerry, Kennedy, Gore and many other dims.

            Where were you and the Euro Loons when the O went to Libya without the approval of Congress?

            But I do know . . . Bush kept the country SAFE for 8 years . . . unlike the O . . . who has had what . . . 6 or 8 terrorist attacks on US soil . . . he called it workplace violence . . .

            The best presidents of modern time . . . Ike, Reagan and Bush. Bush dealt with unique difficult times.

            Worst presidents . . . No. 1 will be O’bammy, then Carter and then FDR . . . we could also add Woodrow Wilson, the man that gave us the Federal Reserve ! ! !

            You seem like another “Low Information Voter” . . .

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            No you are wrong. There are actually Presidential Scholars who study this stuff and it turns out that BUSH is the worst President in US History. He and Cheney are also the first Administration to be WANTED for war crimes in a european country. Why do you think Bush is in hiding – is never seen – never speaks in public- never on the news.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            No you are wrong. There are actually Presidential Scholars who study this stuff and it turns out that BUSH is the worst President in US History. He and Cheney are also the first Administration to be WANTED for war crimes in a european country. Why do you think Bush is in hiding – is never seen – never speaks in public- never on the news.

          • DCW16

            The O is the WORST occupant of the WH in the History of the USA . . . He has SPENT more than ALL of the other Presidents ADDED TOGETHER . . .
            He Sealed his records, hung with Radicals all his life, Has a gaggle of 60′s loons and Radicals in the Exec Branch . . .
            Nothing to see here folks . . . keep drinking the kool-aide clown. . . .
            Did you know . . . All Marxists are Socialists, All commies are Socialists . . . and Most Dimmicraps are Socialists . . .
            He’s funding the Brotherhood . . . in Egypt, Syria and elsewhere. Where do you think his loyalties lie? Certainly not with the USA ! ! ! The clown will not even say “Moooooslime terrorist” . . . and name ONE time when he told the TRUTH !
            I know . . . he said today is Tuesday . . . LOL

          • DCW16

            The O is the WORST occupant of the WH in the History of the USA . . . He has SPENT more than ALL of the other Presidents ADDED TOGETHER . . .
            He Sealed his records, hung with Radicals all his life, Has a gaggle of 60′s loons and Radicals in the Exec Branch . . .
            Nothing to see here folks . . . keep drinking the kool-aide clown. . . .
            Did you know . . . All Marxists are Socialists, All commies are Socialists . . . and Most Dimmicraps are Socialists . . .
            He’s funding the Brotherhood . . . in Egypt, Syria and elsewhere. Where do you think his loyalties lie? Certainly not with the USA ! ! ! The clown will not even say “Moooooslime terrorist” . . . and name ONE time when he told the TRUTH !
            I know . . . he said today is Tuesday . . . LOL

          • DCW16

            The O is the WORST occupant of the WH in the History of the USA . . . He has SPENT more than ALL of the other Presidents ADDED TOGETHER . . .
            He Sealed his records, hung with Radicals all his life, Has a gaggle of 60′s loons and Radicals in the Exec Branch . . .
            Nothing to see here folks . . . keep drinking the kool-aide clown. . . .
            Did you know . . . All Marxists are Socialists, All commies are Socialists . . . and Most Dimmicraps are Socialists . . .
            He’s funding the Brotherhood . . . in Egypt, Syria and elsewhere. Where do you think his loyalties lie? Certainly not with the USA ! ! ! The clown will not even say “Moooooslime terrorist” . . . and name ONE time when he told the TRUTH !
            I know . . . he said today is Tuesday . . . LOL

          • JJ MILLIS

            They just puppet Rush, Faux, Beck, and whoever. Where’s the outrage over the 4,000 plus soldiers killed in Iraq over lies about WMDs? How would you “patriots” react if Obama had hosted the Taliban in Chicago, before he got a contract for his business interest for rights to the Afghanistan oil pipeline? Or that Obama and his dad were close business partners with Osama Bin Laden’s eldest half-brother, and his dad had breakfast with same in D.C. when the towers and Pentagon were hit? Or that their business made millions because we invaded Iraq? Well, that was George W. and H.W. Bush’s reality, and what did you do? Did you call them muslim lovers? Did you clamor for their trials for treason? You’d be calling for Obama’s head if he had done these things. Oh, and Gen. Petraeus testified last year that Obama deliberately used the video-provoked protests as the cause of the Benghazi killings to protect our intelligence sources. You’re all a bunch of hypocrites and phonies, cowering behind your veils of religion and patriotism.

          • JJ MILLIS

            They just puppet Rush, Faux, Beck, and whoever. Where’s the outrage over the 4,000 plus soldiers killed in Iraq over lies about WMDs? How would you “patriots” react if Obama had hosted the Taliban in Chicago, before he got a contract for his business interest for rights to the Afghanistan oil pipeline? Or that Obama and his dad were close business partners with Osama Bin Laden’s eldest half-brother, and his dad had breakfast with same in D.C. when the towers and Pentagon were hit? Or that their business made millions because we invaded Iraq? Well, that was George W. and H.W. Bush’s reality, and what did you do? Did you call them muslim lovers? Did you clamor for their trials for treason? You’d be calling for Obama’s head if he had done these things. Oh, and Gen. Petraeus testified last year that Obama deliberately used the video-provoked protests as the cause of the Benghazi killings to protect our intelligence sources. You’re all a bunch of hypocrites and phonies, cowering behind your veils of religion and patriotism.

          • JJ MILLIS

            They just puppet Rush, Faux, Beck, and whoever. Where’s the outrage over the 4,000 plus soldiers killed in Iraq over lies about WMDs? How would you “patriots” react if Obama had hosted the Taliban in Chicago, before he got a contract for his business interest for rights to the Afghanistan oil pipeline? Or that Obama and his dad were close business partners with Osama Bin Laden’s eldest half-brother, and his dad had breakfast with same in D.C. when the towers and Pentagon were hit? Or that their business made millions because we invaded Iraq? Well, that was George W. and H.W. Bush’s reality, and what did you do? Did you call them muslim lovers? Did you clamor for their trials for treason? You’d be calling for Obama’s head if he had done these things. Oh, and Gen. Petraeus testified last year that Obama deliberately used the video-provoked protests as the cause of the Benghazi killings to protect our intelligence sources. You’re all a bunch of hypocrites and phonies, cowering behind your veils of religion and patriotism.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            LOLOLOL
            Marxist, leninist, communist, socialist — which is it now. The right needs to make up their mind because ALL of those titles are mutually exclusive you moron!

        • DCW16

          Still stuckonstooopid?

          This is just the tip of the Iceberg . . . the marxist/mooooslime in the WH . . . lies every time he opens his mouth . . .
          Still to Come . . . Benghazi and how about those Phone Records . . . is the media glow about to leave town and ole floppy ears become the modern day tricky dick?

        • Skeptical_Boomer

          What a moron you are. The IRS has admitted to all of this. Fools like you are hopelessly lost in your Utopian wet dream.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are hopelessly lost in in conspiracy land!! The IRS commissioner is a Bush appointee!!!! And in addition the real facts are that it was an independent action on the part of lower level case beurocrats — THAT is what the IRS admitted to!!!!! Oh – WHATS THAT???? You did not read or hear the ENTIRE conversation but only that part that was taken out of context to feed your desperate attempt to prove a conspiracy????? What a shock !!! LOL You people are an embarrassing joke.

          • Skeptical_Boomer

            Talk about hopelessly lost. You actually believe the White House spin on this story. I think you need a news update too. They have admitted it was not some lower level bureaucrat. So childlike. You swallow whatever Daddy Obama feeds you.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            What don’t you swallow my phalanx – I know thats a BIG word for a republican — better google search!!!

          • Skeptical_Boomer

            That’s right, ignore the facts in defense of your marxist masters. You better google search yourself because I don’t think you have a clue what phalanx actually means. You might want to use proper grammar as well when attempting to insult me. You are proving your ignorance.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            What don’t you swallow my phalanx – I know thats a BIG word for a republican — better google search!!!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            What don’t you swallow my phalanx – I know thats a BIG word for a republican — better google search!!!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            What don’t you swallow my phalanx – I know thats a BIG word for a republican — better google search!!!

          • Skeptical_Boomer

            Talk about hopelessly lost. You actually believe the White House spin on this story. I think you need a news update too. They have admitted it was not some lower level bureaucrat. So childlike. You swallow whatever Daddy Obama feeds you.

          • Skeptical_Boomer

            Talk about hopelessly lost. You actually believe the White House spin on this story. I think you need a news update too. They have admitted it was not some lower level bureaucrat. So childlike. You swallow whatever Daddy Obama feeds you.

          • LibertyMonger

            Their is no IRS commissioner that job is VACANT! LMAO!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            There is an ACTING IRS Comissioner —- moron!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            There is an ACTING IRS Comissioner —- moron!

          • believer

            Miller became acting commissioner in November, after Commissioner Douglas
            Shulman completed his five-year term. Shulman had been appointed by President
            George W. Bush. Get your facts strait please.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are hopelessly lost in in conspiracy land!! The IRS commissioner is a Bush appointee!!!! And in addition the real facts are that it was an independent action on the part of lower level case beurocrats — THAT is what the IRS admitted to!!!!! Oh – WHATS THAT???? You did not read or hear the ENTIRE conversation but only that part that was taken out of context to feed your desperate attempt to prove a conspiracy????? What a shock !!! LOL You people are an embarrassing joke.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are hopelessly lost in in conspiracy land!! The IRS commissioner is a Bush appointee!!!! And in addition the real facts are that it was an independent action on the part of lower level case beurocrats — THAT is what the IRS admitted to!!!!! Oh – WHATS THAT???? You did not read or hear the ENTIRE conversation but only that part that was taken out of context to feed your desperate attempt to prove a conspiracy????? What a shock !!! LOL You people are an embarrassing joke.

          • JJ MILLIS

            Yes, and it was done under the directorship of Bush’s IRS appointee, a Republican. Now what, moron?

          • Skeptical_Boomer

            First it was some low level employees in Ohio and now it is the top guy and it’s all Bush’s fault. Bush appointed the man, so what does that mean? He was targeting conservative groups which helps Obama and it jhust happens to be around election time. Yes liberalism is a mental disorder. Oh yeah, moron.

          • Skeptical_Boomer

            First it was some low level employees in Ohio and now it is the top guy and it’s all Bush’s fault. Bush appointed the man, so what does that mean? He was targeting conservative groups which helps Obama and it jhust happens to be around election time. Yes liberalism is a mental disorder. Oh yeah, moron.

          • Skeptical_Boomer

            First it was some low level employees in Ohio and now it is the top guy and it’s all Bush’s fault. Bush appointed the man, so what does that mean? He was targeting conservative groups which helps Obama and it jhust happens to be around election time. Yes liberalism is a mental disorder. Oh yeah, moron.

          • JJ MILLIS

            Yes, and it was done under the directorship of Bush’s IRS appointee, a Republican. Now what, moron?

          • JJ MILLIS

            Yes, and it was done under the directorship of Bush’s IRS appointee, a Republican. Now what, moron?

          • JJ MILLIS

            Yes, and it was done under the directorship of Bush’s IRS appointee, a Republican. Now what, moron?

        • Skeptical_Boomer

          What a moron you are. The IRS has admitted to all of this. Fools like you are hopelessly lost in your Utopian wet dream.

        • Skeptical_Boomer

          What a moron you are. The IRS has admitted to all of this. Fools like you are hopelessly lost in your Utopian wet dream.

        • Skeptical_Boomer

          What a moron you are. The IRS has admitted to all of this. Fools like you are hopelessly lost in your Utopian wet dream.

        • UnCL3

          a$$douche alert

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I suspect you know better than ANYONE here what a douch is and how to use it. Better go get to it today – I can smell you from here!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I suspect you know better than ANYONE here what a douch is and how to use it. Better go get to it today – I can smell you from here!

          • LibertyMonger

            Look at how pathetic and childish you are! All you can do is name calling LMAO! Give it up Obama boy NO SOUP FOR YOU!

          • LibertyMonger

            Look at how pathetic and childish you are! All you can do is name calling LMAO! Give it up Obama boy NO SOUP FOR YOU!

          • LibertyMonger

            Look at how pathetic and childish you are! All you can do is name calling LMAO! Give it up Obama boy NO SOUP FOR YOU!

          • CaptricsDaddy

            Republibot? More like Liberobot! Could you sound anymore like a broken record?

            The truth is, Obama has been working to restrict our rights as Americans. He signed the NDAA, didn’t he?

            The truth is, Obama is aiding and abetting our enemies. He is in charge, and our government is sending millions of dollars and weapons of war to Egypt, which has been taken over by facist Islamic extremists!

            The truth is, Obama has lied to the public about Benghazi!

            The truth is, the IRS is being used as a political tool! It is unfairly targeting certain groups that are opposed to the ideology and mission of the administration!

            The truth is, Obama must be held accountable for what has happened under his watch. He belongs in prison, not in the White House!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Do you think the PRESIDENT writes bills???? You really are an illiterate! The NDAA was passed by the senate 98-0!!
            Aid to Egypt promotes strong ties between the American and Egyptian militaries, which gives the U.S. all kinds of benefits. U.S. Navy warships, for instance, get “expedited processing” when they pass through the Suez Canal.

            How did Obama lie to the public about Benghazi – he called it an act of terrorism the very next day – even before all of the facts were known – the FBI is still investigating – why do you think YOU should know the small details that will derail that investigation?
            The IRS has NO link to the Oval office. Even the IRS has admitted that!
            You do NOT hold the manager of a department or the CEO of a corporation or the Captain of an airplane personally responsible for the illegal individual actions of people under their command! PERIOD!!!

          • http://www.facebook.com/robin.rountree.12 Robin Rountree

            Ok then by your own logic its not Bushes fault that there were no wmd s found because someone else stated there were there

          • http://www.facebook.com/robin.rountree.12 Robin Rountree

            Ok then by your own logic its not Bushes fault that there were no wmd s found because someone else stated there were there

          • http://www.facebook.com/robin.rountree.12 Robin Rountree

            Ok then by your own logic its not Bushes fault that there were no wmd s found because someone else stated there were there

          • http://www.facebook.com/robin.rountree.12 Robin Rountree

            Ok then by your own logic its not Bushes fault that there were no wmd s found because someone else stated there were there

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Do you think the PRESIDENT writes bills???? You really are an illiterate! The NDAA was passed by the senate 98-0!!
            Aid to Egypt promotes strong ties between the American and Egyptian militaries, which gives the U.S. all kinds of benefits. U.S. Navy warships, for instance, get “expedited processing” when they pass through the Suez Canal.

            How did Obama lie to the public about Benghazi – he called it an act of terrorism the very next day – even before all of the facts were known – the FBI is still investigating – why do you think YOU should know the small details that will derail that investigation?
            The IRS has NO link to the Oval office. Even the IRS has admitted that!
            You do NOT hold the manager of a department or the CEO of a corporation or the Captain of an airplane personally responsible for the illegal individual actions of people under their command! PERIOD!!!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Do you think the PRESIDENT writes bills???? You really are an illiterate! The NDAA was passed by the senate 98-0!!
            Aid to Egypt promotes strong ties between the American and Egyptian militaries, which gives the U.S. all kinds of benefits. U.S. Navy warships, for instance, get “expedited processing” when they pass through the Suez Canal.

            How did Obama lie to the public about Benghazi – he called it an act of terrorism the very next day – even before all of the facts were known – the FBI is still investigating – why do you think YOU should know the small details that will derail that investigation?
            The IRS has NO link to the Oval office. Even the IRS has admitted that!
            You do NOT hold the manager of a department or the CEO of a corporation or the Captain of an airplane personally responsible for the illegal individual actions of people under their command! PERIOD!!!

          • CaptricsDaddy

            Republibot? More like Liberobot! Could you sound anymore like a broken record?

            The truth is, Obama has been working to restrict our rights as Americans. He signed the NDAA, didn’t he?

            The truth is, Obama is aiding and abetting our enemies. He is in charge, and our government is sending millions of dollars and weapons of war to Egypt, which has been taken over by facist Islamic extremists!

            The truth is, Obama has lied to the public about Benghazi!

            The truth is, the IRS is being used as a political tool! It is unfairly targeting certain groups that are opposed to the ideology and mission of the administration!

            The truth is, Obama must be held accountable for what has happened under his watch. He belongs in prison, not in the White House!

          • CaptricsDaddy

            Republibot? More like Liberobot! Could you sound anymore like a broken record?

            The truth is, Obama has been working to restrict our rights as Americans. He signed the NDAA, didn’t he?

            The truth is, Obama is aiding and abetting our enemies. He is in charge, and our government is sending millions of dollars and weapons of war to Egypt, which has been taken over by facist Islamic extremists!

            The truth is, Obama has lied to the public about Benghazi!

            The truth is, the IRS is being used as a political tool! It is unfairly targeting certain groups that are opposed to the ideology and mission of the administration!

            The truth is, Obama must be held accountable for what has happened under his watch. He belongs in prison, not in the White House!

          • UnCL3

            I know how to spell “douche” at least…public school education much there, skippy?

          • UnCL3

            I know how to spell “douche” at least…public school education much there, skippy?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            A good public school education and a masters at a private school. Of COURSE you know how to spell douche – you ARE one. LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            A good public school education and a masters at a private school. Of COURSE you know how to spell douche – you ARE one. LOL

          • UnCL3

            Oh, OK mr. 60 posts.
            drop dead

          • UnCL3

            Oh, OK mr. 60 posts.
            drop dead

          • UnCL3

            Oh, OK mr. 60 posts.
            drop dead

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Well I am not dropping dead — people like you do not break me — you MAKE me! LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Well I am not dropping dead — people like you do not break me — you MAKE me! LOL

          • UnCL3

            Oh, OK mr. 60 posts.
            drop dead

          • UnCL3

            …a masters in what? human sexuality? Russian lit?
            you’re still a commie pig, educated by the same.

          • UnCL3

            …a masters in what? human sexuality? Russian lit?
            you’re still a commie pig, educated by the same.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Commie pig? HOW old are you? Communism is not even a viable form of an idiology anymore! hahahaha Actually – people like you could USE a little communism — the Chinese “communists” have turned out more millionaires in the last 20 years than any nation on the planet!! LOL

          • UnCL3

            OH! communism is dead, eh? Well, we’ve known for a LONG time it is not a “viable form of an ideology”. So you’ve renamed it Populism, or whatever else…a turd by any other name still stinks.

          • UnCL3

            OH! communism is dead, eh? Well, we’ve known for a LONG time it is not a “viable form of an ideology”. So you’ve renamed it Populism, or whatever else…a turd by any other name still stinks.

          • UnCL3

            OH! communism is dead, eh? Well, we’ve known for a LONG time it is not a “viable form of an ideology”. So you’ve renamed it Populism, or whatever else…a turd by any other name still stinks.

          • UnCL3

            OH! communism is dead, eh? Well, we’ve known for a LONG time it is not a “viable form of an ideology”. So you’ve renamed it Populism, or whatever else…a turd by any other name still stinks.

          • UnCL3

            I think you would be at home in China. You should emigrate.

          • UnCL3

            I think you would be at home in China. You should emigrate.

          • UnCL3

            I think you would be at home in China. You should emigrate.

          • UnCL3

            I think you would be at home in China. You should emigrate.

          • Antiliberal

            “people like you could USE a little communism—”

            Now your true colors are starting to show. All that ‘combat experience’ you claim wouldn’t have been in the service of the VC would it? I’ll bet Hanoi Jane is a real hero of yours.

            Mr. Berger was spot on when he stated that men with SF pedigree and experience do not boast and make the claims that you do, unless of course, you suffer from PTSD, combat fatigue, shell shock or more likely in your case, senile dementia. Tell me, were you also with Washington at Valley Forge? What seat did you occupy at Fords Theatre? Did Teddy really ride up San Juan Hill sidesaddle?

            As the uncle of a highly decorated MC Intel Officer from 1/5, who died in Afghanistan on detached duty to Force Recon from 2/7, who has come to know many in this community personally, I call BS to your claims. If I’m wrong, then I apologize, but you don’t impress me as being genuine. More like someone in serious need of intense psychotherapy.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Being the UNCLE of a special operator is almost like BEING one? You are the one in need of psycotherapy!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Being the UNCLE of a special operator is almost like BEING one? You are the one in need of psycotherapy!

          • Antiliberal

            “people like you could USE a little communism—”

            Now your true colors are starting to show. All that ‘combat experience’ you claim wouldn’t have been in the service of the VC would it? I’ll bet Hanoi Jane is a real hero of yours.

            Mr. Berger was spot on when he stated that men with SF pedigree and experience do not boast and make the claims that you do, unless of course, you suffer from PTSD, combat fatigue, shell shock or more likely in your case, senile dementia. Tell me, were you also with Washington at Valley Forge? What seat did you occupy at Fords Theatre? Did Teddy really ride up San Juan Hill sidesaddle?

            As the uncle of a highly decorated MC Intel Officer from 1/5, who died in Afghanistan on detached duty to Force Recon from 2/7, who has come to know many in this community personally, I call BS to your claims. If I’m wrong, then I apologize, but you don’t impress me as being genuine. More like someone in serious need of intense psychotherapy.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Commie pig? HOW old are you? Communism is not even a viable form of an idiology anymore! hahahaha Actually – people like you could USE a little communism — the Chinese “communists” have turned out more millionaires in the last 20 years than any nation on the planet!! LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Statistics and an MBA.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Statistics and an MBA.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Statistics and an MBA.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Statistics and an MBA.

          • UnCL3

            …a masters in what? human sexuality? Russian lit?
            you’re still a commie pig, educated by the same.

          • UnCL3

            …a masters in what? human sexuality? Russian lit?
            you’re still a commie pig, educated by the same.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            A good public school education and a masters at a private school. Of COURSE you know how to spell douche – you ARE one. LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            A good public school education and a masters at a private school. Of COURSE you know how to spell douche – you ARE one. LOL

          • UnCL3

            I know how to spell “douche” at least…public school education much there, skippy?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I suspect you know better than ANYONE here what a douch is and how to use it. Better go get to it today – I can smell you from here!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I suspect you know better than ANYONE here what a douch is and how to use it. Better go get to it today – I can smell you from here!

        • UnCL3

          a$$douche alert

        • UnCL3

          a$$douche alert

        • UnCL3

          a$$douche alert

        • ezekiel22

          Here is another conspiracy theory that Obama supports having voted for it three times in the Illinois legislature. Just the facts in color. BlackGenocide.org | Abortion Photos

        • ezekiel22

          Here is another conspiracy theory that Obama supports having voted for it three times in the Illinois legislature. Just the facts in color. BlackGenocide.org | Abortion Photos

        • ezekiel22

          Here is another conspiracy theory that Obama supports having voted for it three times in the Illinois legislature. Just the facts in color. BlackGenocide.org | Abortion Photos

        • LadyforLiberty

          captric: Conspiracy theory huh?
          A Conspiracy is when there is a lie masquerading as TRUTH.
          Obama has ignored the $17Trillion deficit. True
          Obama has ruled by Exec Orders: True
          Obama has attempted to circumvent the Constitution. (Gun Control) True.
          The above 3 points are NOT rumors.
          If they were, now THAT would be a conspiracy.
          Nixon was hounded out of office for ONE thing. Watergate!
          Course, HE was a Republican, and the press were (and ARE). left wing.
          That the GOP has not been effective is because Liberals have had the agenda for years. Abortion, religion, Sex lessons in schools etc
          GOP need to get back to their core message:
          Love of Country, Love of Family, Love of Constitution, and the big message they shy away from today, Small Government and LOWER taxes. For Socialists as even Winston Churchill recognised, are very good at spending OTHER PEOPLE MONEY!
          Obama is a Liberal Democrat (or socialist), and Washington has grown Bigger under Democrat control!!

          The Dems keep pushing rumor and ridicule towards the GOP, and the GOP do not come out and fight!
          Why? The Liberal media will not print bad things about their new monarch!
          If there is a conspiracy it is a Democrat one captic!!

          • skitzo

            A conspiracy is when two or more people combine to commit an act. A conspiracy theory is a belief, not necessarily supported, that certain people combined to cover something up, or do something secret. I.e. the conspiracy to cover up the JFK assassination that many suspect.
            Obama has not ignored the deficit. If you actually look into it, instead of parroting what you hear on right wing radio/websites, he has reduced the deficit. TRUE.
            “Gun control” is not circumventing the constitution. Read what the supreme court actually said. YOu have a right to have a gun in your home, but the government can make reasonable restrictions in the interest of public safety. You just don’t know what you are talking about, and you certainly are not schooled about the constitution, which is not a simple subject but has been refined by over 200 years of jurisprudence.
            And Clinton was hounded and impeached because a political groupie gave him a blow job. Of course, if he was republican, he would do it in an airport men’s room or grope a page. Nixon’s team did commit breaking and entering, a felony, to try and throw the election. And Nixon participated in the cover up. You don’t see anything wrong there?
            If you want to be loyal to the constitution, be loyal to ALL of it, not just the second amendment.
            Your “love” of whatever is just pap. Everyone loves their country and their family. and Obama is not a socialist or a muslim.

          • skitzo

            A conspiracy is when two or more people combine to commit an act. A conspiracy theory is a belief, not necessarily supported, that certain people combined to cover something up, or do something secret. I.e. the conspiracy to cover up the JFK assassination that many suspect.
            Obama has not ignored the deficit. If you actually look into it, instead of parroting what you hear on right wing radio/websites, he has reduced the deficit. TRUE.
            “Gun control” is not circumventing the constitution. Read what the supreme court actually said. YOu have a right to have a gun in your home, but the government can make reasonable restrictions in the interest of public safety. You just don’t know what you are talking about, and you certainly are not schooled about the constitution, which is not a simple subject but has been refined by over 200 years of jurisprudence.
            And Clinton was hounded and impeached because a political groupie gave him a blow job. Of course, if he was republican, he would do it in an airport men’s room or grope a page. Nixon’s team did commit breaking and entering, a felony, to try and throw the election. And Nixon participated in the cover up. You don’t see anything wrong there?
            If you want to be loyal to the constitution, be loyal to ALL of it, not just the second amendment.
            Your “love” of whatever is just pap. Everyone loves their country and their family. and Obama is not a socialist or a muslim.

          • skitzo

            A conspiracy is when two or more people combine to commit an act. A conspiracy theory is a belief, not necessarily supported, that certain people combined to cover something up, or do something secret. I.e. the conspiracy to cover up the JFK assassination that many suspect.
            Obama has not ignored the deficit. If you actually look into it, instead of parroting what you hear on right wing radio/websites, he has reduced the deficit. TRUE.
            “Gun control” is not circumventing the constitution. Read what the supreme court actually said. YOu have a right to have a gun in your home, but the government can make reasonable restrictions in the interest of public safety. You just don’t know what you are talking about, and you certainly are not schooled about the constitution, which is not a simple subject but has been refined by over 200 years of jurisprudence.
            And Clinton was hounded and impeached because a political groupie gave him a blow job. Of course, if he was republican, he would do it in an airport men’s room or grope a page. Nixon’s team did commit breaking and entering, a felony, to try and throw the election. And Nixon participated in the cover up. You don’t see anything wrong there?
            If you want to be loyal to the constitution, be loyal to ALL of it, not just the second amendment.
            Your “love” of whatever is just pap. Everyone loves their country and their family. and Obama is not a socialist or a muslim.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You would not know the truth if I bitch slapped you in the face with it ! The GOP is helplessly lost as evidenced by the desperate attempts to create a conspiracy!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You would not know the truth if I bitch slapped you in the face with it ! The GOP is helplessly lost as evidenced by the desperate attempts to create a conspiracy!

        • LadyforLiberty

          captric: Conspiracy theory huh?
          A Conspiracy is when there is a lie masquerading as TRUTH.
          Obama has ignored the $17Trillion deficit. True
          Obama has ruled by Exec Orders: True
          Obama has attempted to circumvent the Constitution. (Gun Control) True.
          The above 3 points are NOT rumors.
          If they were, now THAT would be a conspiracy.
          Nixon was hounded out of office for ONE thing. Watergate!
          Course, HE was a Republican, and the press were (and ARE). left wing.
          That the GOP has not been effective is because Liberals have had the agenda for years. Abortion, religion, Sex lessons in schools etc
          GOP need to get back to their core message:
          Love of Country, Love of Family, Love of Constitution, and the big message they shy away from today, Small Government and LOWER taxes. For Socialists as even Winston Churchill recognised, are very good at spending OTHER PEOPLE MONEY!
          Obama is a Liberal Democrat (or socialist), and Washington has grown Bigger under Democrat control!!

          The Dems keep pushing rumor and ridicule towards the GOP, and the GOP do not come out and fight!
          Why? The Liberal media will not print bad things about their new monarch!
          If there is a conspiracy it is a Democrat one captic!!

        • Ron

          The New York Times is far from a beacon for the Right. In fact, they swing Left most of the time. But, even THEY are saying that there’s merit to the Benghazi scandal.

        • Ron

          The New York Times is far from a beacon for the Right. In fact, they swing Left most of the time. But, even THEY are saying that there’s merit to the Benghazi scandal.

        • Ron

          The New York Times is far from a beacon for the Right. In fact, they swing Left most of the time. But, even THEY are saying that there’s merit to the Benghazi scandal.

      • Hoodoo H

        True

      • Hoodoo H

        True

      • GodlessMama

        What are we praising imaginary skydaddy for here? The deaths of 4 Americans in order to continue the right-left divisiveness in the country?

      • GodlessMama

        What are we praising imaginary skydaddy for here? The deaths of 4 Americans in order to continue the right-left divisiveness in the country?

        • ilpatriot58

          @GodlessMama – you would do well to do a little repenting and praying to the Lord above & this is NOT about right-left divisiveness – it is about RIGHT & WRONG! It is about LYING to the American people. It is about letting our service men & women go to their deaths while they go off to a campaign stop. Obviously, you have no clue about what ANY of this about….you and your ilk….Shame on you!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Obviously YOU have no clue about any of this!! WHAT “service members” did anyone “let die”!!

          • MsPony65

            YOU obviously have no clue. Srsly. The failed false flag of the administration, and the administration’s refusal to help our ambassador and service men is most certainly killing our service people.

            Under what rock have you been hiding?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Do you even know the difference between Diplomats and the Military? Service members normally refers to the military. There was no US military involved at all until the next day when the Marines arrived from the Embassy in Tripoli!! There was NO “refusal” to help. Under what rock did you dig that up? The drug addicted nicotine addict fat draft dodging twrice divorced loudmouth Limbaugh rock?????? Do you even know where to go to get credible information in order to make pragmatic and correct decisions on ANYTHING?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Do you even know the difference between Diplomats and the Military? Service members normally refers to the military. There was no US military involved at all until the next day when the Marines arrived from the Embassy in Tripoli!! There was NO “refusal” to help. Under what rock did you dig that up? The drug addicted nicotine addict fat draft dodging twrice divorced loudmouth Limbaugh rock?????? Do you even know where to go to get credible information in order to make pragmatic and correct decisions on ANYTHING?

          • MKD

            Wow….big time denial….you’re funny….but go hid back under your rock…..

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Denial – do you have anything in your brain besides fake conspiracy theories?? You republibots are atrociously illiterate. Give me ONE verifiable example of something the white house did regarding Benghazi that proves they knowingly abandoned our people. I am waiting.

          • MeganColoardo

            They didn’t show up–instead, they watched the attack that went on for hours and did nothing. –good enough example for you? Agreed, you are in denial–”partying-up” and sticking to a party line will never help this country.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Your an idiot who gets your education from 1930′s technology — AM radio. What do you MEAN they did nothing! Every combat outfit in the region was trying to figure out a way to help. What would you have done???? I really want to hear this!!!!!

          • Joe Berger

            Which MSOB were you with? How and when did you cross over to BUD/s and the Q course in your career? It’s not unheard of, i’m just very curious.

          • Joe Berger

            Which MSOB were you with? How and when did you cross over to BUD/s and the Q course in your career? It’s not unheard of, i’m just very curious.

          • 0622

            Funny how he ignores this question.

          • 0622

            Funny how he ignores this question.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I did not have to go to BUDS because I already had the training and even combat experience from the Marines. All of us who were at Mare Island had previous Special Ops experience from various services but our commander was a SEAL as were some of the other members. We had a couple Green Beanies and some others as well. We all trained together and became a cohesive team – but I left and moved to another part of the country. I would have joined the 4th Force Recon in Sparks Nevada and even interviewed and was excepted but it was just too far to drive every weekend. are island was close to where I lived at the time while I was a student at UC Davis.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I did not have to go to BUDS because I already had the training and even combat experience from the Marines. All of us who were at Mare Island had previous Special Ops experience from various services but our commander was a SEAL as were some of the other members. We had a couple Green Beanies and some others as well. We all trained together and became a cohesive team – but I left and moved to another part of the country. I would have joined the 4th Force Recon in Sparks Nevada and even interviewed and was excepted but it was just too far to drive every weekend. are island was close to where I lived at the time while I was a student at UC Davis.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I did not have to go to BUDS because I already had the training and even combat experience from the Marines. All of us who were at Mare Island had previous Special Ops experience from various services but our commander was a SEAL as were some of the other members. We had a couple Green Beanies and some others as well. We all trained together and became a cohesive team – but I left and moved to another part of the country. I would have joined the 4th Force Recon in Sparks Nevada and even interviewed and was excepted but it was just too far to drive every weekend. are island was close to where I lived at the time while I was a student at UC Davis.

          • Joe Berger

            Which MSOB were you with? How and when did you cross over to BUD/s and the Q course in your career? It’s not unheard of, i’m just very curious.

          • Joe Berger

            Which MSOB were you with? How and when did you cross over to BUD/s and the Q course in your career? It’s not unheard of, i’m just very curious.

          • wastedmercy3

            AM radio has been right all along with this administration!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Riiigggghhhhttttt — keep buying in to Limbaugh – it is the best thing that ever happened to the left . You virtually guarantee another Democratic victory in the next election.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Riiigggghhhhttttt — keep buying in to Limbaugh – it is the best thing that ever happened to the left . You virtually guarantee another Democratic victory in the next election.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Riiigggghhhhttttt — keep buying in to Limbaugh – it is the best thing that ever happened to the left . You virtually guarantee another Democratic victory in the next election.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Riiigggghhhhttttt — keep buying in to Limbaugh – it is the best thing that ever happened to the left . You virtually guarantee another Democratic victory in the next election.

          • wastedmercy3

            AM radio has been right all along with this administration!

          • Oohmygosh

            Did YOU listen to the hearings?? I’m thinking you couldn’t possibly have!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I did listen to the hearings – the most important thing I heard was we WISH we could have gotten some air support! Unfortunately there WAS no air support for reason that NO ONE is going to order a suicide mission from an F16 pilot who has a range of 650 miles and the distance was 1040 miles. There WERE no refueling assets – period. That was the limiting factor. The guys who finally arrived from tripoli had to HIGH_JACK a business jet!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I did listen to the hearings – the most important thing I heard was we WISH we could have gotten some air support! Unfortunately there WAS no air support for reason that NO ONE is going to order a suicide mission from an F16 pilot who has a range of 650 miles and the distance was 1040 miles. There WERE no refueling assets – period. That was the limiting factor. The guys who finally arrived from tripoli had to HIGH_JACK a business jet!

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1437483570 Christine Guinn

            The ferry range of an F16 is 2,280 NM. The combat range is 295 NM with 4 1,000lb bombs. The distance from Italy to Lybia is 538 NM. Seems to me that you COULD get an F16 from Italy to Benghazi. Myabe not with a full combat load, but even buzzing the area at 200 ft at mach 1 would have scattered the attackers.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Where TF do you get your information??? The distance from SIGONELLA (thats where they actually keep airplanes!!) is 1040 miles! Buzzing the area at Mac1??? Unbelievable!! Why don’t you go talk to a REAL pilot some time and see if you could talk someone in to doing that in the middle of the night. And THEN —- Smart Arse —-HOW are they going to get HOME!!! There were NO refueling capabilities ANYWHERE. What a simple minded FOOL you are!

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1437483570 Christine Guinn

            The ferry range of an F16 is 2,280 NM. The combat range is 295 NM with 4 1,000lb bombs. The distance from Italy to Lybia is 538 NM. Seems to me that you COULD get an F16 from Italy to Benghazi. Myabe not with a full combat load, but even buzzing the area at 200 ft at mach 1 would have scattered the attackers.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I did listen to the hearings – the most important thing I heard was we WISH we could have gotten some air support! Unfortunately there WAS no air support for reason that NO ONE is going to order a suicide mission from an F16 pilot who has a range of 650 miles and the distance was 1040 miles. There WERE no refueling assets – period. That was the limiting factor. The guys who finally arrived from tripoli had to HIGH_JACK a business jet!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I did listen to the hearings – the most important thing I heard was we WISH we could have gotten some air support! Unfortunately there WAS no air support for reason that NO ONE is going to order a suicide mission from an F16 pilot who has a range of 650 miles and the distance was 1040 miles. There WERE no refueling assets – period. That was the limiting factor. The guys who finally arrived from tripoli had to HIGH_JACK a business jet!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            President Obama was informed about the attack at 5 p.m. by his national security adviser, Thomas E. Donilon, at the start of a meeting at the White House with Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta and Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Libya was not the only worry. There were also protests at the United States’ embassies in Tunisia, Egypt and Yemen.

            In the meeting, Mr. Obama ordered the Pentagon to begin “mobilizing all available military assets to respond to a range of contingencies in Libya and other countries in the region,” said Tommy Vietor, a spokesman for the National Security Council.

            But the administration was not well positioned to respond quickly. On the night of the attack, the Pentagon was able to divert an unarmed Predator drone operating 90 miles away to Benghazi, and the C.I.A. later used it to help plan an escape route for the surviving Americans.

            Two military officers working at the embassy in Tripoli volunteered to join C.I.A. reinforcements who arrived in Benghazi early the next morning, just before a series of deadly mortar rounds struck the agency’s annex in Benghazi and killed two C.I.A. security contractors.

            But other military forces were too far away or could not be mobilized in time. The closest AC-130 gunship, a devastating and accurate weapon against insurgents in urban areas, was in Afghanistan, a senior official said.

            There are no armed drones within range of Libya. The closest fly out of Djibouti, in the Horn of Africa, and were not in range of Benghazi. There was no Marine expeditionary unit — a large seaborne force with its own helicopters — in the Mediterranean Sea. American F-16 fighters in Europe were not on alert, and General Ham concluded they would not have been useful in a confused fight in a major Arab city.

            Acting on Mr. Obama’s order, the staff of the Joint Chiefs presented the options. Around 6:30 p.m., oral instructions were given for the units to get ready to deploy and formal deployment orders were issued after 8:30 p.m. The early reports in Washington noted that Ambassador Stevens was missing, and a major worry was that a hostage-rescue mission might be needed.

            The Pentagon sent the Delta Force commandos to the Sigonella base in Sicily, to put them in position to deploy to Libya. Two 50-strong platoons of specially trained Marines, from Rota, Spain, were ordered to get ready to deploy, too.

            Another option approved was to send the European Command’s quick-reaction force, which consists of about four dozen Special Forces soldiers and other specialists. But it was in the middle of a mission in Croatia. Elements of the team began leaving for Sigonella by 9 p.m., and the unit completed its deployment to Sicily shortly after noon the next day, a Pentagon official said. By then the 30 or so surviving Americans, and the bodies of their four colleagues, were in Tripoli.

            With the region still in turmoil, the European Command’s quick-reaction team was sent on to Tunis. One of the Marine platoons was sent to Tripoli to protect the United States Embassy there. The Delta Force commandos, having arrived too late to help, flew back home, Pentagon officials said.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            President Obama was informed about the attack at 5 p.m. by his national security adviser, Thomas E. Donilon, at the start of a meeting at the White House with Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta and Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Libya was not the only worry. There were also protests at the United States’ embassies in Tunisia, Egypt and Yemen.

            In the meeting, Mr. Obama ordered the Pentagon to begin “mobilizing all available military assets to respond to a range of contingencies in Libya and other countries in the region,” said Tommy Vietor, a spokesman for the National Security Council.

            But the administration was not well positioned to respond quickly. On the night of the attack, the Pentagon was able to divert an unarmed Predator drone operating 90 miles away to Benghazi, and the C.I.A. later used it to help plan an escape route for the surviving Americans.

            Two military officers working at the embassy in Tripoli volunteered to join C.I.A. reinforcements who arrived in Benghazi early the next morning, just before a series of deadly mortar rounds struck the agency’s annex in Benghazi and killed two C.I.A. security contractors.

            But other military forces were too far away or could not be mobilized in time. The closest AC-130 gunship, a devastating and accurate weapon against insurgents in urban areas, was in Afghanistan, a senior official said.

            There are no armed drones within range of Libya. The closest fly out of Djibouti, in the Horn of Africa, and were not in range of Benghazi. There was no Marine expeditionary unit — a large seaborne force with its own helicopters — in the Mediterranean Sea. American F-16 fighters in Europe were not on alert, and General Ham concluded they would not have been useful in a confused fight in a major Arab city.

            Acting on Mr. Obama’s order, the staff of the Joint Chiefs presented the options. Around 6:30 p.m., oral instructions were given for the units to get ready to deploy and formal deployment orders were issued after 8:30 p.m. The early reports in Washington noted that Ambassador Stevens was missing, and a major worry was that a hostage-rescue mission might be needed.

            The Pentagon sent the Delta Force commandos to the Sigonella base in Sicily, to put them in position to deploy to Libya. Two 50-strong platoons of specially trained Marines, from Rota, Spain, were ordered to get ready to deploy, too.

            Another option approved was to send the European Command’s quick-reaction force, which consists of about four dozen Special Forces soldiers and other specialists. But it was in the middle of a mission in Croatia. Elements of the team began leaving for Sigonella by 9 p.m., and the unit completed its deployment to Sicily shortly after noon the next day, a Pentagon official said. By then the 30 or so surviving Americans, and the bodies of their four colleagues, were in Tripoli.

            With the region still in turmoil, the European Command’s quick-reaction team was sent on to Tunis. One of the Marine platoons was sent to Tripoli to protect the United States Embassy there. The Delta Force commandos, having arrived too late to help, flew back home, Pentagon officials said.

          • Oohmygosh

            Did YOU listen to the hearings?? I’m thinking you couldn’t possibly have!

          • Oohmygosh

            Did YOU listen to the hearings?? I’m thinking you couldn’t possibly have!

          • Oohmygosh

            Did YOU listen to the hearings?? I’m thinking you couldn’t possibly have!

          • MeganColoardo

            They didn’t show up–instead, they watched the attack that went on for hours and did nothing. –good enough example for you? Agreed, you are in denial–”partying-up” and sticking to a party line will never help this country.

          • MeganColoardo

            They didn’t show up–instead, they watched the attack that went on for hours and did nothing. –good enough example for you? Agreed, you are in denial–”partying-up” and sticking to a party line will never help this country.

          • Timothy Wenners

            Uh.. They knew about the attack, and it was going on for hours and they did nothing?

          • Timothy Wenners

            Uh.. They knew about the attack, and it was going on for hours and they did nothing?

          • Timothy Wenners

            Uh.. They knew about the attack, and it was going on for hours and they did nothing?

          • maryohio

            Give me one verifiable example that he gave a rat’s ass about what was going on the night HIS DEAR FRIEND CHRIS and the others were being murdered? JUST ONE.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            His commanders dispatched the Marine Anti Terrorism unit from Tripoli as soon as they could go! BUT – the unite 650 miles away! That is 650 across the biggest desert int he world and a 13 hour drive!

          • Joe Berger

            His administration should’ve gotten a clue…it’s 9/11 of all days, and the British embassy had pulled out due to an attempted attack earlier that year. Our own embassy either should have pulled out completely or beefed up security.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Sure – and who’s fault is that? It is the regional security directors fault – NOT the President of the US or the Secretary of State!

          • http://www.facebook.com/mary.allsbrooksashby Mary Allsbrooks Ashby

            Sure – and who’s fault is that? It is the regional security directors fault ? who takes orders from guess who

          • http://www.facebook.com/mary.allsbrooksashby Mary Allsbrooks Ashby

            Sure – and who’s fault is that? It is the regional security directors fault ? who takes orders from guess who

          • http://www.facebook.com/mary.allsbrooksashby Mary Allsbrooks Ashby

            Sure – and who’s fault is that? It is the regional security directors fault ? who takes orders from guess who

          • Joe Berger

            They follow the policies of the commander in chief and their administration.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            That is really weak – the head of ANY department is not responsible for the individual actions of every person under their command.

          • Joe Berger

            Listen, i’m not a right wing nut, and I don’t think obama would have willingly ignored an attack like this. But here’s the thing, before the whole incident with the Benghazi embassy, there was a team of Marines (do not know the unit) and a Libyan security team that went in to extract embassy members and take them to a connex area to be picked up because of the current state of Libya at that time. They were mortared at the site of the connex. One Marine died and 2 were wounded. I believe this is what could’ve prevented the Obama administration from sending more troops into the area.

            http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/12/13833848-us-diplomats-marine-rescue-team-were-also-attacked-at-safe-house-libyans-say?lite

          • Joe Berger

            Listen, i’m not a right wing nut, and I don’t think obama would have willingly ignored an attack like this. But here’s the thing, before the whole incident with the Benghazi embassy, there was a team of Marines (do not know the unit) and a Libyan security team that went in to extract embassy members and take them to a connex area to be picked up because of the current state of Libya at that time. They were mortared at the site of the connex. One Marine died and 2 were wounded. I believe this is what could’ve prevented the Obama administration from sending more troops into the area.

            http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/12/13833848-us-diplomats-marine-rescue-team-were-also-attacked-at-safe-house-libyans-say?lite

          • Joe Berger

            Listen, i’m not a right wing nut, and I don’t think obama would have willingly ignored an attack like this. But here’s the thing, before the whole incident with the Benghazi embassy, there was a team of Marines (do not know the unit) and a Libyan security team that went in to extract embassy members and take them to a connex area to be picked up because of the current state of Libya at that time. They were mortared at the site of the connex. One Marine died and 2 were wounded. I believe this is what could’ve prevented the Obama administration from sending more troops into the area.

            http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/12/13833848-us-diplomats-marine-rescue-team-were-also-attacked-at-safe-house-libyans-say?lite

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            That is really weak – the head of ANY department is not responsible for the individual actions of every person under their command.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            That is really weak – the head of ANY department is not responsible for the individual actions of every person under their command.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            That is really weak – the head of ANY department is not responsible for the individual actions of every person under their command.

          • Joe Berger

            They follow the policies of the commander in chief and their administration.

          • Joe Berger

            They follow the policies of the commander in chief and their administration.

          • Joe Berger

            They follow the policies of the commander in chief and their administration.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Sure – and who’s fault is that? It is the regional security directors fault – NOT the President of the US or the Secretary of State!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            In point of fact they beefed up security with local militia. Some of whom were wounded on the night of the attack. Some ran like hell!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            In point of fact they beefed up security with local militia. Some of whom were wounded on the night of the attack. Some ran like hell!

          • Joe Berger

            His administration should’ve gotten a clue…it’s 9/11 of all days, and the British embassy had pulled out due to an attempted attack earlier that year. Our own embassy either should have pulled out completely or beefed up security.

          • Joe Berger

            His administration should’ve gotten a clue…it’s 9/11 of all days, and the British embassy had pulled out due to an attempted attack earlier that year. Our own embassy either should have pulled out completely or beefed up security.

          • mort_f

            Sorry, but 650 miles is less than 3 hours by C-130. Even the Libyans supplied a C-130 to evacuate some US personnel from Benghazi. Nobody. with even a modicum of intelligence would posit driving in that circumstance. Why didn’t you show your total lack by talking about a ‘forced march’.

          • mort_f

            Sorry, but 650 miles is less than 3 hours by C-130. Even the Libyans supplied a C-130 to evacuate some US personnel from Benghazi. Nobody. with even a modicum of intelligence would posit driving in that circumstance. Why didn’t you show your total lack by talking about a ‘forced march’.

          • lorri

            Exactly. I am trying to figure out where he’s getting driving from? Apparently he either A> doesn’t know what he’s talking about, or b> is paid to troll and try to create “turbulence” and try to discredit TRUTHFUL reporting with his funny “tin foil wearing hat” ideas. Welcome to “REALITY CHECK”

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            So how did they finally get there? They had to high jack a personal jet and pay the pilot $30,000! There were NO air assets. It was THAT or drive 13 hours!! GET IT??

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            So how did they finally get there? They had to high jack a personal jet and pay the pilot $30,000! There were NO air assets. It was THAT or drive 13 hours!! GET IT??

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            So how did they finally get there? They had to high jack a personal jet and pay the pilot $30,000! There were NO air assets. It was THAT or drive 13 hours!! GET IT??

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            So how did they finally get there? They had to high jack a personal jet and pay the pilot $30,000! There were NO air assets. It was THAT or drive 13 hours!! GET IT??

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            This is where! Dumb A**!!
            The Regional Security Office sounded the alarm and placed calls to the Benghazi CIA annex and the embassy in Tripoli, saying, “We’re under attack, we need help, please send help now…” Then the call cut off. After some discussion, the CIA’s Global Response Staff (GRS) at the CIA annex, which included senior security operative Tyrone S. Woods, decided to implement a rescue. By 10:05pm, the team was briefed and loaded into their armored Toyota Land Cruisers.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            This is where! Dumb A**!!
            The Regional Security Office sounded the alarm and placed calls to the Benghazi CIA annex and the embassy in Tripoli, saying, “We’re under attack, we need help, please send help now…” Then the call cut off. After some discussion, the CIA’s Global Response Staff (GRS) at the CIA annex, which included senior security operative Tyrone S. Woods, decided to implement a rescue. By 10:05pm, the team was briefed and loaded into their armored Toyota Land Cruisers.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            This is where! Dumb A**!!
            The Regional Security Office sounded the alarm and placed calls to the Benghazi CIA annex and the embassy in Tripoli, saying, “We’re under attack, we need help, please send help now…” Then the call cut off. After some discussion, the CIA’s Global Response Staff (GRS) at the CIA annex, which included senior security operative Tyrone S. Woods, decided to implement a rescue. By 10:05pm, the team was briefed and loaded into their armored Toyota Land Cruisers.

          • lorri

            Exactly. I am trying to figure out where he’s getting driving from? Apparently he either A> doesn’t know what he’s talking about, or b> is paid to troll and try to create “turbulence” and try to discredit TRUTHFUL reporting with his funny “tin foil wearing hat” ideas. Welcome to “REALITY CHECK”

          • lorri

            Exactly. I am trying to figure out where he’s getting driving from? Apparently he either A> doesn’t know what he’s talking about, or b> is paid to troll and try to create “turbulence” and try to discredit TRUTHFUL reporting with his funny “tin foil wearing hat” ideas. Welcome to “REALITY CHECK”

          • lorri

            Exactly. I am trying to figure out where he’s getting driving from? Apparently he either A> doesn’t know what he’s talking about, or b> is paid to troll and try to create “turbulence” and try to discredit TRUTHFUL reporting with his funny “tin foil wearing hat” ideas. Welcome to “REALITY CHECK”

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            WHAT C130 you simple minded idiot!!! They to practically HIGHJACK a private jet and pay the guy $30,000 to get a ride to Benghazi. Then what did they do once they got there? Where was the transportation to get them to the battle???? This simple minded approach to complex problems is what separates people like you who have never done anything from people like me who actually HAVE!!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            WHAT C130 you simple minded idiot!!! They to practically HIGHJACK a private jet and pay the guy $30,000 to get a ride to Benghazi. Then what did they do once they got there? Where was the transportation to get them to the battle???? This simple minded approach to complex problems is what separates people like you who have never done anything from people like me who actually HAVE!!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            WHAT C130 you simple minded idiot!!! They to practically HIGHJACK a private jet and pay the guy $30,000 to get a ride to Benghazi. Then what did they do once they got there? Where was the transportation to get them to the battle???? This simple minded approach to complex problems is what separates people like you who have never done anything from people like me who actually HAVE!!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            So why did the two X nave SEAL security contractors have to HIGHJACK an airplane to get there!!! There were NO assets available to arrive in time to make a difference.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            This is where! Dumb A**!!
            The Regional Security Office sounded the alarm and placed calls to the Benghazi CIA annex and the embassy in Tripoli, saying, “We’re under attack, we need help, please send help now…” Then the call cut off. After some discussion, the CIA’s Global Response Staff (GRS) at the CIA annex, which included senior security operative Tyrone S. Woods, decided to implement a rescue. By 10:05pm, the team was briefed and loaded into their armored Toyota Land Cruisers.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            This is where! Dumb A**!!
            The Regional Security Office sounded the alarm and placed calls to the Benghazi CIA annex and the embassy in Tripoli, saying, “We’re under attack, we need help, please send help now…” Then the call cut off. After some discussion, the CIA’s Global Response Staff (GRS) at the CIA annex, which included senior security operative Tyrone S. Woods, decided to implement a rescue. By 10:05pm, the team was briefed and loaded into their armored Toyota Land Cruisers.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            This is where! Dumb A**!!
            The Regional Security Office sounded the alarm and placed calls to the Benghazi CIA annex and the embassy in Tripoli, saying, “We’re under attack, we need help, please send help now…” Then the call cut off. After some discussion, the CIA’s Global Response Staff (GRS) at the CIA annex, which included senior security operative Tyrone S. Woods, decided to implement a rescue. By 10:05pm, the team was briefed and loaded into their armored Toyota Land Cruisers.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            This is where! Dumb A**!!
            The Regional Security Office sounded the alarm and placed calls to the Benghazi CIA annex and the embassy in Tripoli, saying, “We’re under attack, we need help, please send help now…” Then the call cut off. After some discussion, the CIA’s Global Response Staff (GRS) at the CIA annex, which included senior security operative Tyrone S. Woods, decided to implement a rescue. By 10:05pm, the team was briefed and loaded into their armored Toyota Land Cruisers.

          • mort_f

            Sorry, but 650 miles is less than 3 hours by C-130. Even the Libyans supplied a C-130 to evacuate some US personnel from Benghazi. Nobody. with even a modicum of intelligence would posit driving in that circumstance. Why didn’t you show your total lack by talking about a ‘forced march’.

          • mort_f

            Sorry, but 650 miles is less than 3 hours by C-130. Even the Libyans supplied a C-130 to evacuate some US personnel from Benghazi. Nobody. with even a modicum of intelligence would posit driving in that circumstance. Why didn’t you show your total lack by talking about a ‘forced march’.

          • lorri

            They wouldn’t have driven, they would have flown. They could have been there in three hours. No request for a flight was ever asked by this administration to Lybia. Of coarse if your special ops, you would know that in order for them to be able to fly over they had to get Lybia’s permission which was also testified to that it wouldn’t have been a problem.

            I would love to know where your getting, driving from? As they have been discussing for quite some time flight’s not being cleared to take off that the order came from the White House to “Stand down”. BTW which means “do not go” not allowed to be operational, do not engage, do not fire, etc… ‘

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Unbeleivable – you are a simple minded fool!! They DID fly!!! They had to pay a private pilot $30,000 – then when they arrived at the airport in Benghazi there was NO transportation to the arrived. Have you EVER done anything of substance? How simple is your mind? You think you can just jump in a waiting plane and FLY in to the combat zone in the middle of a firefight???? This is why no one takes you simple minded fools seriously!!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            And who have the order to stand down? Do you thinj the President of the US gets up at 3 am and takes command of the military in a small firefight half way around the world and tells the pilots whether they can fly or not? THERE WERE NO AIR ASSETS IN LIBYA! Got it??

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Here Moron!!

            The Regional Security Office sounded the alarm and placed calls to the Benghazi CIA annex and the embassy in Tripoli, saying, “We’re under attack, we need help, please send help now…” Then the call cut off. After some discussion, the CIA’s Global Response Staff (GRS) at the CIA annex, which included senior security operative Tyrone S. Woods, decided to implement a rescue. By 10:05pm, the team was briefed and loaded into their armored Toyota Land Cruisers.

          • lorri

            I know all this! So why are you calling me a MORON??? Or is this sending me your answer? Yeah, in their land cruisers, that is because he was in the near by annex dugh. Amazing how “you said they couldn’t make it, yet Tyrone S. Woods did”. Not to mention if you follow the hearings you will see that they were able to get there with their response team via airplane, but the orders were to stand down. So what did you just prove? Nothing. Tyrone S. Woods and the other seal went against orders in order to save the “Ambassador” the others stood down as ordered. Or have you not been following all the witness statements, and congressional hearings?

            And the others that you are talking about that were loaded into the Land Cruisers and went to help did so in “Tripoli” not in Benghazi. They evacuated about 130 people give or take. NOT to help the Ambassador (with the exception of the two seals).

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajmNFLEserY
            Here are the one of the witness’s testimony to congress.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Here Moron!!

            The Regional Security Office sounded the alarm and placed calls to the Benghazi CIA annex and the embassy in Tripoli, saying, “We’re under attack, we need help, please send help now…” Then the call cut off. After some discussion, the CIA’s Global Response Staff (GRS) at the CIA annex, which included senior security operative Tyrone S. Woods, decided to implement a rescue. By 10:05pm, the team was briefed and loaded into their armored Toyota Land Cruisers.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Here Moron!!

            The Regional Security Office sounded the alarm and placed calls to the Benghazi CIA annex and the embassy in Tripoli, saying, “We’re under attack, we need help, please send help now…” Then the call cut off. After some discussion, the CIA’s Global Response Staff (GRS) at the CIA annex, which included senior security operative Tyrone S. Woods, decided to implement a rescue. By 10:05pm, the team was briefed and loaded into their armored Toyota Land Cruisers.

          • lorri

            They wouldn’t have driven, they would have flown. They could have been there in three hours. No request for a flight was ever asked by this administration to Lybia. Of coarse if your special ops, you would know that in order for them to be able to fly over they had to get Lybia’s permission which was also testified to that it wouldn’t have been a problem.

            I would love to know where your getting, driving from? As they have been discussing for quite some time flight’s not being cleared to take off that the order came from the White House to “Stand down”. BTW which means “do not go” not allowed to be operational, do not engage, do not fire, etc… ‘

          • http://www.facebook.com/mary.allsbrooksashby Mary Allsbrooks Ashby

            ever herd of flying just a thought you can get from washington to benghzi in less than 7 hours

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Your an idiot!! WTF do you think they are going to fly in? A commercial jet????? What a morion – so typical of your brainless conservative movement.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Your an idiot!! WTF do you think they are going to fly in? A commercial jet????? What a morion – so typical of your brainless conservative movement.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Your an idiot!! WTF do you think they are going to fly in? A commercial jet????? What a morion – so typical of your brainless conservative movement.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mary.allsbrooksashby Mary Allsbrooks Ashby

            ever herd of flying just a thought you can get from washington to benghzi in less than 7 hours

          • http://www.facebook.com/mary.allsbrooksashby Mary Allsbrooks Ashby

            ever herd of flying just a thought you can get from washington to benghzi in less than 7 hours

          • toddschul

            Ever heard of a helicopter dickhead? All your “special operator” experience should have made you inimately familiar…hahahaha. You are such a joke! I guarantee you are no more than 14 and popping off from your parent’s basement. There are NO real special operators who are so pathetically prostrate to this corrupt President. Nor do they try to brag about it on bloggs, only pretenders do that….
            The head of Tripoli embassy just testified that the helicopters were spinning and ready to go and they were not allowed to go. He was there. He was an eye witness. I think I’ll believe him over you…
            Now get back to your homework tough guy. Or list your address.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are a freaking FOOL!! You know nothing except what you have seen in the movies!! There WERE no helicopters!!! MORON. The Special Operators were the Marine Anti Terrorism Team designed to be based at the Embassy in Tripoli! Where were the helicopters coming from ? They are coming from your weak minded imagination making assumptions about something you have no clue about.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are a freaking FOOL!! You know nothing except what you have seen in the movies!! There WERE no helicopters!!! MORON. The Special Operators were the Marine Anti Terrorism Team designed to be based at the Embassy in Tripoli! Where were the helicopters coming from ? They are coming from your weak minded imagination making assumptions about something you have no clue about.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are a freaking FOOL!! You know nothing except what you have seen in the movies!! There WERE no helicopters!!! MORON. The Special Operators were the Marine Anti Terrorism Team designed to be based at the Embassy in Tripoli! Where were the helicopters coming from ? They are coming from your weak minded imagination making assumptions about something you have no clue about.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            His commanders dispatched the Marine Anti Terrorism unit from Tripoli as soon as they could go! BUT – the unite 650 miles away! That is 650 across the biggest desert int he world and a 13 hour drive!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            His commanders dispatched the Marine Anti Terrorism unit from Tripoli as soon as they could go! BUT – the unite 650 miles away! That is 650 across the biggest desert int he world and a 13 hour drive!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            President Obama was informed about the attack at 5 p.m. by his national security adviser, Thomas E. Donilon, at the start of a meeting at the White House with Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta and Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Libya was not the only worry. There were also protests at the United States’ embassies in Tunisia, Egypt and Yemen.

            In the meeting, Mr. Obama ordered the Pentagon to begin “mobilizing all available military assets to respond to a range of contingencies in Libya and other countries in the region,” said Tommy Vietor, a spokesman for the National Security Council.

            But the administration was not well positioned to respond quickly. On the night of the attack, the Pentagon was able to divert an unarmed Predator drone operating 90 miles away to Benghazi, and the C.I.A. later used it to help plan an escape route for the surviving Americans.

            Two military officers working at the embassy in Tripoli volunteered to join C.I.A. reinforcements who arrived in Benghazi early the next morning, just before a series of deadly mortar rounds struck the agency’s annex in Benghazi and killed two C.I.A. security contractors.

            But other military forces were too far away or could not be mobilized in time. The closest AC-130 gunship, a devastating and accurate weapon against insurgents in urban areas, was in Afghanistan, a senior official said.

            There are no armed drones within range of Libya. The closest fly out of Djibouti, in the Horn of Africa, and were not in range of Benghazi. There was no Marine expeditionary unit — a large seaborne force with its own helicopters — in the Mediterranean Sea. American F-16 fighters in Europe were not on alert, and General Ham concluded they would not have been useful in a confused fight in a major Arab city.

            Acting on Mr. Obama’s order, the staff of the Joint Chiefs presented the options. Around 6:30 p.m., oral instructions were given for the units to get ready to deploy and formal deployment orders were issued after 8:30 p.m. The early reports in Washington noted that Ambassador Stevens was missing, and a major worry was that a hostage-rescue mission might be needed.

            The Pentagon sent the Delta Force commandos to the Sigonella base in Sicily, to put them in position to deploy to Libya. Two 50-strong platoons of specially trained Marines, from Rota, Spain, were ordered to get ready to deploy, too.

            Another option approved was to send the European Command’s quick-reaction force, which consists of about four dozen Special Forces soldiers and other specialists. But it was in the middle of a mission in Croatia. Elements of the team began leaving for Sigonella by 9 p.m., and the unit completed its deployment to Sicily shortly after noon the next day, a Pentagon official said. By then the 30 or so surviving Americans, and the bodies of their four colleagues, were in Tripoli.

            With the region still in turmoil, the European Command’s quick-reaction team was sent on to Tunis. One of the Marine platoons was sent to Tripoli to protect the United States Embassy there. The Delta Force commandos, having arrived too late to help, flew back home, Pentagon officials said.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            President Obama was informed about the attack at 5 p.m. by his national security adviser, Thomas E. Donilon, at the start of a meeting at the White House with Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta and Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Libya was not the only worry. There were also protests at the United States’ embassies in Tunisia, Egypt and Yemen.

            In the meeting, Mr. Obama ordered the Pentagon to begin “mobilizing all available military assets to respond to a range of contingencies in Libya and other countries in the region,” said Tommy Vietor, a spokesman for the National Security Council.

            But the administration was not well positioned to respond quickly. On the night of the attack, the Pentagon was able to divert an unarmed Predator drone operating 90 miles away to Benghazi, and the C.I.A. later used it to help plan an escape route for the surviving Americans.

            Two military officers working at the embassy in Tripoli volunteered to join C.I.A. reinforcements who arrived in Benghazi early the next morning, just before a series of deadly mortar rounds struck the agency’s annex in Benghazi and killed two C.I.A. security contractors.

            But other military forces were too far away or could not be mobilized in time. The closest AC-130 gunship, a devastating and accurate weapon against insurgents in urban areas, was in Afghanistan, a senior official said.

            There are no armed drones within range of Libya. The closest fly out of Djibouti, in the Horn of Africa, and were not in range of Benghazi. There was no Marine expeditionary unit — a large seaborne force with its own helicopters — in the Mediterranean Sea. American F-16 fighters in Europe were not on alert, and General Ham concluded they would not have been useful in a confused fight in a major Arab city.

            Acting on Mr. Obama’s order, the staff of the Joint Chiefs presented the options. Around 6:30 p.m., oral instructions were given for the units to get ready to deploy and formal deployment orders were issued after 8:30 p.m. The early reports in Washington noted that Ambassador Stevens was missing, and a major worry was that a hostage-rescue mission might be needed.

            The Pentagon sent the Delta Force commandos to the Sigonella base in Sicily, to put them in position to deploy to Libya. Two 50-strong platoons of specially trained Marines, from Rota, Spain, were ordered to get ready to deploy, too.

            Another option approved was to send the European Command’s quick-reaction force, which consists of about four dozen Special Forces soldiers and other specialists. But it was in the middle of a mission in Croatia. Elements of the team began leaving for Sigonella by 9 p.m., and the unit completed its deployment to Sicily shortly after noon the next day, a Pentagon official said. By then the 30 or so surviving Americans, and the bodies of their four colleagues, were in Tripoli.

            With the region still in turmoil, the European Command’s quick-reaction team was sent on to Tunis. One of the Marine platoons was sent to Tripoli to protect the United States Embassy there. The Delta Force commandos, having arrived too late to help, flew back home, Pentagon officials said.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            President Obama was informed about the attack at 5 p.m. by his national security adviser, Thomas E. Donilon, at the start of a meeting at the White House with Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta and Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Libya was not the only worry. There were also protests at the United States’ embassies in Tunisia, Egypt and Yemen.

            In the meeting, Mr. Obama ordered the Pentagon to begin “mobilizing all available military assets to respond to a range of contingencies in Libya and other countries in the region,” said Tommy Vietor, a spokesman for the National Security Council.

            But the administration was not well positioned to respond quickly. On the night of the attack, the Pentagon was able to divert an unarmed Predator drone operating 90 miles away to Benghazi, and the C.I.A. later used it to help plan an escape route for the surviving Americans.

            Two military officers working at the embassy in Tripoli volunteered to join C.I.A. reinforcements who arrived in Benghazi early the next morning, just before a series of deadly mortar rounds struck the agency’s annex in Benghazi and killed two C.I.A. security contractors.

            But other military forces were too far away or could not be mobilized in time. The closest AC-130 gunship, a devastating and accurate weapon against insurgents in urban areas, was in Afghanistan, a senior official said.

            There are no armed drones within range of Libya. The closest fly out of Djibouti, in the Horn of Africa, and were not in range of Benghazi. There was no Marine expeditionary unit — a large seaborne force with its own helicopters — in the Mediterranean Sea. American F-16 fighters in Europe were not on alert, and General Ham concluded they would not have been useful in a confused fight in a major Arab city.

            Acting on Mr. Obama’s order, the staff of the Joint Chiefs presented the options. Around 6:30 p.m., oral instructions were given for the units to get ready to deploy and formal deployment orders were issued after 8:30 p.m. The early reports in Washington noted that Ambassador Stevens was missing, and a major worry was that a hostage-rescue mission might be needed.

            The Pentagon sent the Delta Force commandos to the Sigonella base in Sicily, to put them in position to deploy to Libya. Two 50-strong platoons of specially trained Marines, from Rota, Spain, were ordered to get ready to deploy, too.

            Another option approved was to send the European Command’s quick-reaction force, which consists of about four dozen Special Forces soldiers and other specialists. But it was in the middle of a mission in Croatia. Elements of the team began leaving for Sigonella by 9 p.m., and the unit completed its deployment to Sicily shortly after noon the next day, a Pentagon official said. By then the 30 or so surviving Americans, and the bodies of their four colleagues, were in Tripoli.

            With the region still in turmoil, the European Command’s quick-reaction team was sent on to Tunis. One of the Marine platoons was sent to Tripoli to protect the United States Embassy there. The Delta Force commandos, having arrived too late to help, flew back home, Pentagon officials said.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            President Obama was informed about the attack at 5 p.m. by his national security adviser, Thomas E. Donilon, at the start of a meeting at the White House with Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta and Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Libya was not the only worry. There were also protests at the United States’ embassies in Tunisia, Egypt and Yemen.

            In the meeting, Mr. Obama ordered the Pentagon to begin “mobilizing all available military assets to respond to a range of contingencies in Libya and other countries in the region,” said Tommy Vietor, a spokesman for the National Security Council.

            But the administration was not well positioned to respond quickly. On the night of the attack, the Pentagon was able to divert an unarmed Predator drone operating 90 miles away to Benghazi, and the C.I.A. later used it to help plan an escape route for the surviving Americans.

            Two military officers working at the embassy in Tripoli volunteered to join C.I.A. reinforcements who arrived in Benghazi early the next morning, just before a series of deadly mortar rounds struck the agency’s annex in Benghazi and killed two C.I.A. security contractors.

            But other military forces were too far away or could not be mobilized in time. The closest AC-130 gunship, a devastating and accurate weapon against insurgents in urban areas, was in Afghanistan, a senior official said.

            There are no armed drones within range of Libya. The closest fly out of Djibouti, in the Horn of Africa, and were not in range of Benghazi. There was no Marine expeditionary unit — a large seaborne force with its own helicopters — in the Mediterranean Sea. American F-16 fighters in Europe were not on alert, and General Ham concluded they would not have been useful in a confused fight in a major Arab city.

            Acting on Mr. Obama’s order, the staff of the Joint Chiefs presented the options. Around 6:30 p.m., oral instructions were given for the units to get ready to deploy and formal deployment orders were issued after 8:30 p.m. The early reports in Washington noted that Ambassador Stevens was missing, and a major worry was that a hostage-rescue mission might be needed.

            The Pentagon sent the Delta Force commandos to the Sigonella base in Sicily, to put them in position to deploy to Libya. Two 50-strong platoons of specially trained Marines, from Rota, Spain, were ordered to get ready to deploy, too.

            Another option approved was to send the European Command’s quick-reaction force, which consists of about four dozen Special Forces soldiers and other specialists. But it was in the middle of a mission in Croatia. Elements of the team began leaving for Sigonella by 9 p.m., and the unit completed its deployment to Sicily shortly after noon the next day, a Pentagon official said. By then the 30 or so surviving Americans, and the bodies of their four colleagues, were in Tripoli.

            With the region still in turmoil, the European Command’s quick-reaction team was sent on to Tunis. One of the Marine platoons was sent to Tripoli to protect the United States Embassy there. The Delta Force commandos, having arrived too late to help, flew back home, Pentagon officials said.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Denial – do you have anything in your brain besides fake conspiracy theories?? You republibots are atrociously illiterate. Give me ONE verifiable example of something the white house did regarding Benghazi that proves they knowingly abandoned our people. I am waiting.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Did you mean “HIDE”……I don’t have to HIDE from dumb arsses that cannot even spell a simple four letter word. haha

          • Karen

            Don’t talk about misspells. Check your own posts:)

          • Karen

            Don’t talk about misspells. Check your own posts:)

          • Karen

            Don’t talk about misspells. Check your own posts:)

          • Ron

            Is it “irony” when you misspell a word and criticize others for spelling in the same sentence?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Irony is a big word for a right wing nut. The irony is that you people try to force a link between the President – who has nothing to do with regional security of a temporary state dept building in Benghazi – and a convoluted attack by local armed militia in the middle of the night but yet REFUSE to acknowledge TWICE as many assaults on facilities and deaths of diplomatic personnel in GWB’s reign. Somehow all of a sudden the current administration is guilty of murder. It is just laughable and another reason no one takes you seriously.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Irony is a big word for a right wing nut. The irony is that you people try to force a link between the President – who has nothing to do with regional security of a temporary state dept building in Benghazi – and a convoluted attack by local armed militia in the middle of the night but yet REFUSE to acknowledge TWICE as many assaults on facilities and deaths of diplomatic personnel in GWB’s reign. Somehow all of a sudden the current administration is guilty of murder. It is just laughable and another reason no one takes you seriously.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Irony is a big word for a right wing nut. The irony is that you people try to force a link between the President – who has nothing to do with regional security of a temporary state dept building in Benghazi – and a convoluted attack by local armed militia in the middle of the night but yet REFUSE to acknowledge TWICE as many assaults on facilities and deaths of diplomatic personnel in GWB’s reign. Somehow all of a sudden the current administration is guilty of murder. It is just laughable and another reason no one takes you seriously.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Irony is a big word for a right wing nut. The irony is that you people try to force a link between the President – who has nothing to do with regional security of a temporary state dept building in Benghazi – and a convoluted attack by local armed militia in the middle of the night but yet REFUSE to acknowledge TWICE as many assaults on facilities and deaths of diplomatic personnel in GWB’s reign. Somehow all of a sudden the current administration is guilty of murder. It is just laughable and another reason no one takes you seriously.

          • Ron

            Is it “irony” when you misspell a word and criticize others for spelling in the same sentence?

          • Ron

            Is it “irony” when you misspell a word and criticize others for spelling in the same sentence?

          • Ron

            Is it “irony” when you misspell a word and criticize others for spelling in the same sentence?

          • grammarnazimom

            and did you mean you’re?? “hid” was a typo, “your” (consistently, by the way) is ignorance.

          • grammarnazimom

            and did you mean you’re?? “hid” was a typo, “your” (consistently, by the way) is ignorance.

          • grammarnazimom

            and did you mean you’re?? “hid” was a typo, “your” (consistently, by the way) is ignorance.

          • grammarnazimom

            and did you mean you’re?? “hid” was a typo, “your” (consistently, by the way) is ignorance.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Did you mean “HIDE”……I don’t have to HIDE from dumb arsses that cannot even spell a simple four letter word. haha

          • MKD

            Wow….big time denial….you’re funny….but go hid back under your rock…..

          • MKD

            Wow….big time denial….you’re funny….but go hid back under your rock…..

          • 4grands

            Another one out in left field. What does “stand down” mean to you?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            What does stand down mean to you moron!? and who said to “stand down”? Do you actually think the President of the United States gets up in the middle of the night and makes tactical decisions during a firefight on the other side of the world?? Your an idiot.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            What does stand down mean to you moron!? and who said to “stand down”? Do you actually think the President of the United States gets up in the middle of the night and makes tactical decisions during a firefight on the other side of the world?? Your an idiot.

          • GEORGE SOROS

            YOU ARE A PAID ODUMBO DRONE.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I am not paid —- I am an Ex Marine Special Operator with combat experinece and a former Navy SEAL and Army Green Beret. I fly AIRPLANES for a living and have a masters degree in Management and a technical experience in Statistics. That means I can pretty well separate the BS from the facts. Unlike you and your ilk who do not know the difference between fiction and fantasy!

          • smh

            BS. Don’t even make me call Stolen Valor on you. Your military timeframe wouldn’t allow you to be all three. Nice try.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Another know it who actually knows nothing at all. You question me you little fag? You know nothing of me or the military or the government. You do not even KNOW what my “military time frame” is MORON!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Another know it who actually knows nothing at all. You question me you little fag? You know nothing of me or the military or the government. You do not even KNOW what my “military time frame” is MORON!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Another know it who actually knows nothing at all. You question me you little fag? You know nothing of me or the military or the government. You do not even KNOW what my “military time frame” is MORON!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Another know it who actually knows nothing at all. You question me you little fag? You know nothing of me or the military or the government. You do not even KNOW what my “military time frame” is MORON!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Go ahead pal — at least they have to have the facts and my records are on file. I am not claiming to have won the medal honor……I am teling you what I have done and what I know…but you would rather listen to people who have never served a day in the military and believe them because they are telling you what you already want to believe.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Go ahead pal — at least they have to have the facts and my records are on file. I am not claiming to have won the medal honor……I am teling you what I have done and what I know…but you would rather listen to people who have never served a day in the military and believe them because they are telling you what you already want to believe.

          • Ron

            An ex Marine special op, a former Navy SEAL and a former Army Green Beret. Haha. Uh huh.

          • Ron

            An ex Marine special op, a former Navy SEAL and a former Army Green Beret. Haha. Uh huh.

          • lorri

            You found that one amazing as well. lol I guess Captric can’t figure out what military entity he belongs in.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            It is certainly true that you know nothing about the military – which makes you the perfect mouth piece to comment on it. We let girls serve in Marine Recon or Special Forces or Navy SEALS. Oh look – another empty kitchen! Why don’t you go off and comment on something in glamour magazine little girl.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            It is certainly true that you know nothing about the military – which makes you the perfect mouth piece to comment on it. We let girls serve in Marine Recon or Special Forces or Navy SEALS. Oh look – another empty kitchen! Why don’t you go off and comment on something in glamour magazine little girl.

          • lorri

            You found that one amazing as well. lol I guess Captric can’t figure out what military entity he belongs in.

          • lorri

            You found that one amazing as well. lol I guess Captric can’t figure out what military entity he belongs in.

          • lorri

            You found that one amazing as well. lol I guess Captric can’t figure out what military entity he belongs in.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            This is why people like you have no credibility – you do not know the truth even when someone slaps you in your face with it. Do not judge others by your pathetic excuse for an existance on planet earth.

          • http://www.facebook.com/Jride83 Jenna Ridenhour

            I lol’d on that one too..
            Anyone who knows anything about the marines knows that t they NEVER use the term EX MARINE. it’s an insult. Once a marine, always a marine.
            And we hardly ever cross branches!! Get real.

          • http://www.facebook.com/Jride83 Jenna Ridenhour

            I lol’d on that one too..
            Anyone who knows anything about the marines knows that t they NEVER use the term EX MARINE. it’s an insult. Once a marine, always a marine.
            And we hardly ever cross branches!! Get real.

          • Joe Berger

            Grunts, recon, and MSOB Marines do cross branches at times, but not that many times. Also nobody would claim to be force recon and marine specops when they are 2 different entities

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Oh wow! Someone found something on the internet!!! LOL

          • Joe Berger

            I told you dude, look me up on facebook. I can prove to you through my pictures, videos of me, and my friends that I deployed as a Recon Marine in Afghanistan summer of 2010. Nobody who has served past or present has ever talked down to another recon brother like you do. message me on there. it’s my name “joe berger” with the same picture you see here. or use my email josephgberger@yahoo.com and look me up. Prove to me that you are who you say you are and have done what you say you’ve done.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            It’s ok – I don’t care but I believe you….no problem. Then you of all people should know that as a Force Recon Marine you are pretty much qualified automatically to serve in any special operation group in the country – especially in the reserves – which is what I did. It was fun – important – a little money while I went to college and an asset to my resume in some circles. It is only people here who have never done anything in their lives that have doubts about my credentials mostly because as true conservatives and republibots – once they have lost the argument they resort to impugning their opponent. They get that from watching TV too much and listening to 1930′s technology AM radio.

          • Joe Berger

            lmao! FIrst of all dude, I am NOT a Force Recon Marine. There’s battalion recon, and there’s Force Recon. Force is the deep recon/DA company in the battalion, but they are not the same as the line companies in recon battalion. I became a Recon Marine by completing RTC (Reconnaissance Training Course..formerly known as BRC) after school of infantry. On your xanga site you not only say you have a masters in statistics from Villanova which is contrary to what you said on this page about having a masters in management and technical experience in statistics. But you also posted a gun control blog that people on this page would actually agree with, except that you claim to have been a federal law enforcement officer as well as a special operator. *shakes head*. what we have here, folks, is a guy who is worse than a “has been”..he’s a “never was” and what he does is make these cogent, sound arguments that by themselves would not piss people off so much, but instead of voicing them with sources and not belittling people, you lack sources, belittle people, and back up your arguments with false claims. Oh, and btw..you can be a Recon Marine who is completely schooled up…freefall, jump, dive, ranger, sniper school…and would still have to go to BUD/s to be a SEAL, and even as a SEAL, would still have to go through the Q course to make it onto an A team, even in the reserves. It’s always been that way, and always will be. Just because someone has seen combat and been highly trained, doesn’t mean they are still fit mentally and physically for a different unit. What you are is probably someone who has done some things in the navy, perhaps a riverine boat unit, and has tagged along with seals, and know more than most people, so you create these phony claims to make it seem like you own these arguments.

          • Joe Berger

            lmao! FIrst of all dude, I am NOT a Force Recon Marine. There’s battalion recon, and there’s Force Recon. Force is the deep recon/DA company in the battalion, but they are not the same as the line companies in recon battalion. I became a Recon Marine by completing RTC (Reconnaissance Training Course..formerly known as BRC) after school of infantry. On your xanga site you not only say you have a masters in statistics from Villanova which is contrary to what you said on this page about having a masters in management and technical experience in statistics. But you also posted a gun control blog that people on this page would actually agree with, except that you claim to have been a federal law enforcement officer as well as a special operator. *shakes head*. what we have here, folks, is a guy who is worse than a “has been”..he’s a “never was” and what he does is make these cogent, sound arguments that by themselves would not piss people off so much, but instead of voicing them with sources and not belittling people, you lack sources, belittle people, and back up your arguments with false claims. Oh, and btw..you can be a Recon Marine who is completely schooled up…freefall, jump, dive, ranger, sniper school…and would still have to go to BUD/s to be a SEAL, and even as a SEAL, would still have to go through the Q course to make it onto an A team, even in the reserves. It’s always been that way, and always will be. Just because someone has seen combat and been highly trained, doesn’t mean they are still fit mentally and physically for a different unit. What you are is probably someone who has done some things in the navy, perhaps a riverine boat unit, and has tagged along with seals, and know more than most people, so you create these phony claims to make it seem like you own these arguments.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            First of all I am not a “dude”. Well you clearly do not have CLUE what you are talking about! I ALSO served in B Co 3rd Recon Battalion so I know all about that as well. I also don’t have devil dog tattoos nor an I addicted to alcohol or nicotine which I suspect you are. You want to question my credential you are going to have to try harder than that moron. Do NOT judge me on YOUR poor performance in life!! And oh by the way – my Federal LEO information is protected by SSID. I bet you don’t even know what that is without a google search!! LOL

          • Joe Berger

            Funny how you went from “it’s ok…i don’t care but i believe you..no problem.”….to….”you never were in recon you weak little prick!” change of heart there, sport? and Nice touch with telling me that to question your credential i’m going to have to try “harder than that”. I think you’re going to have to try harder to convince me. I left my contact information in the other comment, including my phone number. I can show you the “jack” on my arm, the paddle in my room, and can refer you to my facebook where I am friends with everyone I have served with. You’re too big of a pussy to call and be proven wrong. bet you won’t.

          • Joe Berger

            Funny how you went from “it’s ok…i don’t care but i believe you..no problem.”….to….”you never were in recon you weak little prick!” change of heart there, sport? and Nice touch with telling me that to question your credential i’m going to have to try “harder than that”. I think you’re going to have to try harder to convince me. I left my contact information in the other comment, including my phone number. I can show you the “jack” on my arm, the paddle in my room, and can refer you to my facebook where I am friends with everyone I have served with. You’re too big of a pussy to call and be proven wrong. bet you won’t.

          • Joe Berger

            Funny how you went from “it’s ok…i don’t care but i believe you..no problem.”….to….”you never were in recon you weak little prick!” change of heart there, sport? and Nice touch with telling me that to question your credential i’m going to have to try “harder than that”. I think you’re going to have to try harder to convince me. I left my contact information in the other comment, including my phone number. I can show you the “jack” on my arm, the paddle in my room, and can refer you to my facebook where I am friends with everyone I have served with. You’re too big of a pussy to call and be proven wrong. bet you won’t.

          • Joe Berger

            Funny how you went from “it’s ok…i don’t care but i believe you..no problem.”….to….”you never were in recon you weak little prick!” change of heart there, sport? and Nice touch with telling me that to question your credential i’m going to have to try “harder than that”. I think you’re going to have to try harder to convince me. I left my contact information in the other comment, including my phone number. I can show you the “jack” on my arm, the paddle in my room, and can refer you to my facebook where I am friends with everyone I have served with. You’re too big of a pussy to call and be proven wrong. bet you won’t.

          • Joe Berger

            funny how you removed your main photo from xanga yesterday.

          • ThatGuy

            He doesn’t want to risk anyone finding out that he’s really some wanna-be loser. That’s why he won’t give you any information to corroborate his claims.

          • Joe Berger

            pretty much

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are the looser. You project your reality on to other people and make decisions based on false assumptions. You have no military experience, you have no Special Ops experience, you cannot understand how anyone could be in three seperate spec ops units, you have neve been in combat, you have never been shot, you have never been in a naval hospital, you have never been to graduate school, you do not have any science education past high school, you have never been certified in statistical analysis at the masters level by a reputable university (that is abundantly clear!) , you have never raced a car, flown an airplane, been scuba diving , been to a jump school, or better yet jumped out an airplane from 25,000 feet at night with scuba gear on. You do not have multiple residences around the country – lived in France- lived in the orient or speak any foreign languages.You are joke of a man and a pathetical little jealous guy with no girlfriend.

          • Joe Berger

            http://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/november-2010-combat-awards

            -control+F to search my name, “Berger, Joseph G” and you will see my listing as having received a NAM with a “V”. Call me via Facetime and I will show you the very citation in my hands, as well as everything else from my recent time in Reconnaissance…the tattoo, paddle, wings, ribbons. everything. You’re the one making the false assumptions without backing it up, while I am showing you every means of contacting me and will gladly prove my service.

          • Joe Berger

            http://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/november-2010-combat-awards

            -control+F to search my name, “Berger, Joseph G” and you will see my listing as having received a NAM with a “V”. Call me via Facetime and I will show you the very citation in my hands, as well as everything else from my recent time in Reconnaissance…the tattoo, paddle, wings, ribbons. everything. You’re the one making the false assumptions without backing it up, while I am showing you every means of contacting me and will gladly prove my service.

          • Joe Berger

            http://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/november-2010-combat-awards

            -control+F to search my name, “Berger, Joseph G” and you will see my listing as having received a NAM with a “V”. Call me via Facetime and I will show you the very citation in my hands, as well as everything else from my recent time in Reconnaissance…the tattoo, paddle, wings, ribbons. everything. You’re the one making the false assumptions without backing it up, while I am showing you every means of contacting me and will gladly prove my service.

          • Joe Berger

            oh and my DD 214. The only document that officially verifies that you served AT ALL. Something that I doubt you even have.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Oh – I certainly have a DD214 – but of all the records I have that is the least important. I do not go around bragging about my time in the marines or anything else unless I get in these one up man ship battles with guy’s like you. Of ALL of the things I have accomplished in my life – joining the marines and getting an honorable discharge is about the least important. In point of fact – it is a bit of a liability when you are applying for a professional job. Only until recently has the Armed Forces come back in to positive light. When I got out I mostly HID the fact that I had ever served. And it is pretty clear that even with guys like you running around picking fights with people – that not very many people have a true understanding what it is all about. I joined the marines in 1969. My boot camp buddies who were 0311 went DIRECTLY to Viet Nam. Two of the people from my platoon won medals of honor – both posthumously. I did not arrive in country until a year later due to the training that took over a year at 2nd Force Recon. And of the 5 guy I went over with we were all wounded. One killed – one in a wheel chair for life. Me- a couple of small scars and bragging rights when people start TELLING me what it is all about instead of ASKING me what it was like. Thats YOU pal. You should be ASKING me not TELLING me about my life experiences.

          • Joe Berger

            No, not bragging. Proving to you what I have. You’re too afraid to call me and see for yourself

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are nothing but a blow hard – probably a cop or a truck driver — tatooed and addicted to beer and nicotine. That isMY impression. Post YOUR credentials online – include your birth certificate. How about your Date of Birth so I can run my own back ground check. Whats a matter – got something to hide???? What a coward.

          • Joe Berger

            LOL you keep changing your mind about me. AGAIN, my email is josephgberger@yahoo.com and the number that you seem to be so afraid to call is 858 776 7082. My full name is Joseph Glenn Berger and my birth date is 11/16/1987. Now either man up and call me via FaceTime or for fvck’s sake give me your email so I can shut your ass up.

          • Joe Berger

            LOL you keep changing your mind about me. AGAIN, my email is josephgberger@yahoo.com and the number that you seem to be so afraid to call is 858 776 7082. My full name is Joseph Glenn Berger and my birth date is 11/16/1987. Now either man up and call me via FaceTime or for fvck’s sake give me your email so I can shut your ass up.

          • Joe Berger

            LOL you keep changing your mind about me. AGAIN, my email is josephgberger@yahoo.com and the number that you seem to be so afraid to call is 858 776 7082. My full name is Joseph Glenn Berger and my birth date is 11/16/1987. Now either man up and call me via FaceTime or for fvck’s sake give me your email so I can shut your ass up.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are nothing but a blow hard – probably a cop or a truck driver — tatooed and addicted to beer and nicotine. That isMY impression. Post YOUR credentials online – include your birth certificate. How about your Date of Birth so I can run my own back ground check. Whats a matter – got something to hide???? What a coward.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are nothing but a blow hard – probably a cop or a truck driver — tatooed and addicted to beer and nicotine. That isMY impression. Post YOUR credentials online – include your birth certificate. How about your Date of Birth so I can run my own back ground check. Whats a matter – got something to hide???? What a coward.

          • Joe Berger

            No, not bragging. Proving to you what I have. You’re too afraid to call me and see for yourself

          • Joe Berger

            No, not bragging. Proving to you what I have. You’re too afraid to call me and see for yourself

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Post YOUR DD214 online moron!

          • Joe Berger

            11/16/1987. Call me via FaceTime and I will show you everything. What’s your name and email?

          • Joe Berger

            11/16/1987. Call me via FaceTime and I will show you everything. What’s your name and email?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Do you know that the earth rotates? It is a fact. So I am in a far different time zone as I am at least 6000 miles from where you are. I will post or not post anything or call or not call you at Fuc**** convenience. Do you not have the situational awareness to know that the military today has changed since the military 30 or 40 years ago? REALLY — google search it!! Phhhhhhh

          • Joe Berger

            11/16/1987. Call me via FaceTime and I will show you everything. What’s your name and email?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Post YOUR DD214 online moron!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Post YOUR DD214 online moron!

          • Joe Berger

            oh and my DD 214. The only document that officially verifies that you served AT ALL. Something that I doubt you even have.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are the looser. You project your reality on to other people and make decisions based on false assumptions. You have no military experience, you have no Special Ops experience, you cannot understand how anyone could be in three seperate spec ops units, you have neve been in combat, you have never been shot, you have never been in a naval hospital, you have never been to graduate school, you do not have any science education past high school, you have never been certified in statistical analysis at the masters level by a reputable university (that is abundantly clear!) , you have never raced a car, flown an airplane, been scuba diving , been to a jump school, or better yet jumped out an airplane from 25,000 feet at night with scuba gear on. You do not have multiple residences around the country – lived in France- lived in the orient or speak any foreign languages.You are joke of a man and a pathetical little jealous guy with no girlfriend.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are the looser. You project your reality on to other people and make decisions based on false assumptions. You have no military experience, you have no Special Ops experience, you cannot understand how anyone could be in three seperate spec ops units, you have neve been in combat, you have never been shot, you have never been in a naval hospital, you have never been to graduate school, you do not have any science education past high school, you have never been certified in statistical analysis at the masters level by a reputable university (that is abundantly clear!) , you have never raced a car, flown an airplane, been scuba diving , been to a jump school, or better yet jumped out an airplane from 25,000 feet at night with scuba gear on. You do not have multiple residences around the country – lived in France- lived in the orient or speak any foreign languages.You are joke of a man and a pathetical little jealous guy with no girlfriend.

          • Joe Berger

            pretty much

          • Joe Berger

            pretty much

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are the looser. You project your reality on to other people and make decisions based on false assumptions. You have no military experience, you have no Special Ops experience, you cannot understand how anyone could be in three seperate spec ops units, you have neve been in combat, you have never been shot, you have never been in a naval hospital, you have never been to graduate school, you do not have any science education past high school, you have never been certified in statistical analysis at the masters level by a reputable university (that is abundantly clear!) , you have never raced a car, flown an airplane, been scuba diving , been to a jump school, or better yet jumped out an airplane from 250000 feet at night with scuba gear on. You are joke of a man and a pathetical little jealous fat guy with no girlfriend.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are the looser. You project your reality on to other people and make decisions based on false assumptions. You have no military experience, you have no Special Ops experience, you cannot understand how anyone could be in three seperate spec ops units, you have neve been in combat, you have never been shot, you have never been in a naval hospital, you have never been to graduate school, you do not have any science education past high school, you have never been certified in statistical analysis at the masters level by a reputable university (that is abundantly clear!) , you have never raced a car, flown an airplane, been scuba diving , been to a jump school, or better yet jumped out an airplane from 250000 feet at night with scuba gear on. You are joke of a man and a pathetical little jealous fat guy with no girlfriend.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are the looser. You project your reality on to other people and make decisions based on false assumptions. You have no military experience, you have no Special Ops experience, you cannot understand how anyone could be in three seperate spec ops units, you have neve been in combat, you have never been shot, you have never been in a naval hospital, you have never been to graduate school, you do not have any science education past high school, you have never been certified in statistical analysis at the masters level by a reputable university (that is abundantly clear!) , you have never raced a car, flown an airplane, been scuba diving , been to a jump school, or better yet jumped out an airplane from 250000 feet at night with scuba gear on. You are joke of a man and a pathetical little jealous fat guy with no girlfriend.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You are the looser. You project your reality on to other people and make decisions based on false assumptions. You have no military experience, you have no Special Ops experience, you cannot understand how anyone could be in three seperate spec ops units, you have neve been in combat, you have never been shot, you have never been in a naval hospital, you have never been to graduate school, you do not have any science education past high school, you have never been certified in statistical analysis at the masters level by a reputable university (that is abundantly clear!) , you have never raced a car, flown an airplane, been scuba diving , been to a jump school, or better yet jumped out an airplane from 250000 feet at night with scuba gear on. You are joke of a man and a pathetical little jealous fat guy with no girlfriend.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You want my birth certificate too???? LOL NOTHING I supply to you will suffice —- but mark my words boy – you will be defeated by pragmatic thought and mathematical accuracy.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You want my birth certificate too???? LOL NOTHING I supply to you will suffice —- but mark my words boy – you will be defeated by pragmatic thought and mathematical accuracy.

          • Joe Berger

            “Nothing I supply to you will suffice”. You haven’t shown me anything! I don’t even know what your full name is. Pretty cowardly.

          • Joe Berger

            “Nothing I supply to you will suffice”. You haven’t shown me anything! I don’t even know what your full name is. Pretty cowardly.

          • Joe Berger

            “Nothing I supply to you will suffice”. You haven’t shown me anything! I don’t even know what your full name is. Pretty cowardly.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You want my birth certificate too???? LOL NOTHING I supply to you will suffice —- but mark my words boy – you will be defeated by pragmatic thought and mathematical accuracy.

          • ThatGuy

            He doesn’t want to risk anyone finding out that he’s really some wanna-be loser. That’s why he won’t give you any information to corroborate his claims.

          • Joe Berger

            funny how you removed your main photo from xanga yesterday.

          • Joe Berger

            funny how you removed your main photo from xanga yesterday.

          • Joe Berger

            funny how you removed your main photo from xanga yesterday.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            First of all I am not a “dude”. Well you clearly do not have CLUE what you are talking about! I ALSO served in B Co 3rd Recon Battalion so I know all about that as well. I also don’t have devil dog tattoos nor an I addicted to alcohol or nicotine which I suspect you are. You want to question my credential you are going to have to try harder than that moron. Do NOT judge me on YOUR poor performance in life!! And oh by the way – my Federal LEO information is protected by SSID. I bet you don’t even know what that is without a google search!! LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            First of all I am not a “dude”. Well you clearly do not have CLUE what you are talking about! I ALSO served in B Co 3rd Recon Battalion so I know all about that as well. I also don’t have devil dog tattoos nor an I addicted to alcohol or nicotine which I suspect you are. You want to question my credential you are going to have to try harder than that moron. Do NOT judge me on YOUR poor performance in life!! And oh by the way – my Federal LEO information is protected by SSID. I bet you don’t even know what that is without a google search!! LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            First of all I am not a “dude”. Well you clearly do not have CLUE what you are talking about! I ALSO served in B Co 3rd Recon Battalion so I know all about that as well. I also don’t have devil dog tattoos nor an I addicted to alcohol or nicotine which I suspect you are. You want to question my credential you are going to have to try harder than that moron. Do NOT judge me on YOUR poor performance in life!! And oh by the way – my Federal LEO information is protected by SSID. I bet you don’t even know what that is without a google search!! LOL

          • Joe Berger

            lmao! FIrst of all dude, I am NOT a Force Recon Marine. There’s battalion recon, and there’s Force Recon. Force is the deep recon/DA company in the battalion, but they are not the same as the line companies in recon battalion. I became a Recon Marine by completing RTC (Reconnaissance Training Course..formerly known as BRC) after school of infantry. On your xanga site you not only say you have a masters in statistics from Villanova which is contrary to what you said on this page about having a masters in management and technical experience in statistics. But you also posted a gun control blog that people on this page would actually agree with, except that you claim to have been a federal law enforcement officer as well as a special operator. *shakes head*. what we have here, folks, is a guy who is worse than a “has been”..he’s a “never was” and what he does is make these cogent, sound arguments that by themselves would not piss people off so much, but instead of voicing them with sources and not belittling people, you lack sources, belittle people, and back up your arguments with false claims. Oh, and btw..you can be a Recon Marine who is completely schooled up…freefall, jump, dive, ranger, sniper school…and would still have to go to BUD/s to be a SEAL, and even as a SEAL, would still have to go through the Q course to make it onto an A team, even in the reserves. It’s always been that way, and always will be. Just because someone has seen combat and been highly trained, doesn’t mean they are still fit mentally and physically for a different unit. What you are is probably someone who has done some things in the navy, perhaps a riverine boat unit, and has tagged along with seals, and know more than most people, so you create these phony claims to make it seem like you own these arguments.

          • Joe Berger

            lmao! FIrst of all dude, I am NOT a Force Recon Marine. There’s battalion recon, and there’s Force Recon. Force is the deep recon/DA company in the battalion, but they are not the same as the line companies in recon battalion. I became a Recon Marine by completing RTC (Reconnaissance Training Course..formerly known as BRC) after school of infantry. On your xanga site you not only say you have a masters in statistics from Villanova which is contrary to what you said on this page about having a masters in management and technical experience in statistics. But you also posted a gun control blog that people on this page would actually agree with, except that you claim to have been a federal law enforcement officer as well as a special operator. *shakes head*. what we have here, folks, is a guy who is worse than a “has been”..he’s a “never was” and what he does is make these cogent, sound arguments that by themselves would not piss people off so much, but instead of voicing them with sources and not belittling people, you lack sources, belittle people, and back up your arguments with false claims. Oh, and btw..you can be a Recon Marine who is completely schooled up…freefall, jump, dive, ranger, sniper school…and would still have to go to BUD/s to be a SEAL, and even as a SEAL, would still have to go through the Q course to make it onto an A team, even in the reserves. It’s always been that way, and always will be. Just because someone has seen combat and been highly trained, doesn’t mean they are still fit mentally and physically for a different unit. What you are is probably someone who has done some things in the navy, perhaps a riverine boat unit, and has tagged along with seals, and know more than most people, so you create these phony claims to make it seem like you own these arguments.

          • Joe Berger

            Well Captric…I am waiting for your proof of service. I don’t care if you believe me. I’m calling YOU out. Nobody can cross specops units from other specop units without taking the basic school for that unit. You’re worse than a “has been”, for you are in fact a “never was”. Prove me wrong and make me look bad, or everyone will know you’re a fake if you can’t do that. And I don’t care that you’re older. I would’ve thought you were a douchebag when you were 25, and still do.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Well you are ABSOLUTELY wrong about that. Me – 2nd Force Recon 69-70 ,1st Force Recon Vietnam 70-71. B Co 3rd Recon Btn 71…….1st Special Warfare Group Mare Island California 74-75………12th Special Forces Group 79-80. Do your homework you freaking lazy bum — make sure you have a good supply of beer and cigarettes first though —— those are always more important than real research!!! I don’t smoke or drink or have tattoos which partially explains why I was able to get an MBA and Masters Level Statistics Certification!!!! Not to mention a six figure income as a professional person. What about you? Moron!

          • Joe Berger

            what do you want me to research? that these units exist? I want pictures, documents, certificates, jump wings, dive bubble, trident, uniforms, contacts…..all documenting you doing those things.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I TRAVEL for a living – what about you? I wont even be HOME for another 8 days at least. But if I am in the mood then I might. In the meantime – enjoy life in the flat earth society where when the earth has been proven round you go on to the NEXT scandal….marines guards holding umbrellas over the President!!! LOLOLOL Another “unprecedented” scandal!! The media is Obama’s scandal condom. And no matter how rough Fox News slams this story to the hilt, they still have real trouble infecting America with their news herpes.

          • Joe Berger

            Mark your calendars folks. I should be getting a call from Captric on may 26th or so. He’s going to show me his facebook with all his photos from Recon, Army SF, and SEALs. He’ll have trident, his jump wings, his dive bubble, his paddle (which ALL recon marines who were respected, have btw) his DD 214, and various awards ready to show. He’ll have a facebook with friends from his old units verifying that he served with them in those units. I mean, I have the courtesy to show him what I got. Let’s see if he does the same! Bet he won’t. He’ll want this thread to be forgotten about, and will move on to another forum and continue living his fantasies out on an online medium. He won’t show what he has, but he also won’t admit that he’s a fake.

          • Joe Berger

            Mark your calendars folks. I should be getting a call from Captric on may 26th or so. He’s going to show me his facebook with all his photos from Recon, Army SF, and SEALs. He’ll have trident, his jump wings, his dive bubble, his paddle (which ALL recon marines who were respected, have btw) his DD 214, and various awards ready to show. He’ll have a facebook with friends from his old units verifying that he served with them in those units. I mean, I have the courtesy to show him what I got. Let’s see if he does the same! Bet he won’t. He’ll want this thread to be forgotten about, and will move on to another forum and continue living his fantasies out on an online medium. He won’t show what he has, but he also won’t admit that he’s a fake.

          • Joe Berger

            Mark your calendars folks. I should be getting a call from Captric on may 26th or so. He’s going to show me his facebook with all his photos from Recon, Army SF, and SEALs. He’ll have trident, his jump wings, his dive bubble, his paddle (which ALL recon marines who were respected, have btw) his DD 214, and various awards ready to show. He’ll have a facebook with friends from his old units verifying that he served with them in those units. I mean, I have the courtesy to show him what I got. Let’s see if he does the same! Bet he won’t. He’ll want this thread to be forgotten about, and will move on to another forum and continue living his fantasies out on an online medium. He won’t show what he has, but he also won’t admit that he’s a fake.

          • Joe Berger

            Mark your calendars folks. I should be getting a call from Captric on may 26th or so. He’s going to show me his facebook with all his photos from Recon, Army SF, and SEALs. He’ll have trident, his jump wings, his dive bubble, his paddle (which ALL recon marines who were respected, have btw) his DD 214, and various awards ready to show. He’ll have a facebook with friends from his old units verifying that he served with them in those units. I mean, I have the courtesy to show him what I got. Let’s see if he does the same! Bet he won’t. He’ll want this thread to be forgotten about, and will move on to another forum and continue living his fantasies out on an online medium. He won’t show what he has, but he also won’t admit that he’s a fake.

          • Joe Berger

            I didn’t completely disagree with you on Benghazi, dumbshit. The fact is, we know that SOMEBODY fucked up, but until things are completely declassified years later, we will never know for sure what happened. You use multiple illogical fallacies on here: appeal to authority, ad hominem, ..to name a few. Instead of typing up comments, why don’t you give me a call, search me up on facebook, and make me look bad by showing evidence of your degrees and your service. In fact, if you click my picture on here, you can see my profile. You can see the background picture when we were loading up onto the CH-53 in Sangin, Afghanistan. If you have a profile, you can add me and see a plethora of photos and videos relating to that deployment as well as my friends like Corporal Todd Love, who is a triple amputee as a result of that deployment, and many, many others who will vouch for me. Message any one of them. I don’t know why I even waste time talking to an old man who clearly isn’t happy with his life, because you sure as hell aren’t going to try to contact me. You’ll refuse to admit you’re wrong, up until everyone stops paying attention to you, but you sure as hell won’t have anything to prove. I’m done checking this site. If you want to reach me, prove me wrong…858 776 7082 josephgberger@yahoo.com. Use both.

          • Joe Berger

            I didn’t completely disagree with you on Benghazi, dumbshit. The fact is, we know that SOMEBODY fucked up, but until things are completely declassified years later, we will never know for sure what happened. You use multiple illogical fallacies on here: appeal to authority, ad hominem, ..to name a few. Instead of typing up comments, why don’t you give me a call, search me up on facebook, and make me look bad by showing evidence of your degrees and your service. In fact, if you click my picture on here, you can see my profile. You can see the background picture when we were loading up onto the CH-53 in Sangin, Afghanistan. If you have a profile, you can add me and see a plethora of photos and videos relating to that deployment as well as my friends like Corporal Todd Love, who is a triple amputee as a result of that deployment, and many, many others who will vouch for me. Message any one of them. I don’t know why I even waste time talking to an old man who clearly isn’t happy with his life, because you sure as hell aren’t going to try to contact me. You’ll refuse to admit you’re wrong, up until everyone stops paying attention to you, but you sure as hell won’t have anything to prove. I’m done checking this site. If you want to reach me, prove me wrong…858 776 7082 josephgberger@yahoo.com. Use both.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I have multiple residences and am currently out of the country. I HAVE you number boy. I do not use Facebook. My credential medals and pictures are in my primary residence where I only get to about once a month. Dont worry – you WILL eat your words. You know nothing of me and THINK you know something about the military and its units and training from 40 years ago — LOL. You are comical.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I have multiple residences and am currently out of the country. I HAVE you number boy. I do not use Facebook. My credential medals and pictures are in my primary residence where I only get to about once a month. Dont worry – you WILL eat your words. You know nothing of me and THINK you know something about the military and its units and training from 40 years ago — LOL. You are comical.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I have multiple residences and am currently out of the country. I HAVE you number boy. I do not use Facebook. My credential medals and pictures are in my primary residence where I only get to about once a month. Dont worry – you WILL eat your words. You know nothing of me and THINK you know something about the military and its units and training from 40 years ago — LOL. You are comical.

          • Joe Berger

            *yawn*

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You have done nothing in your life except graduate high school (maybe) and join the marines. Big Fuc**** deal. You have a lot to learn little boy.

          • Joe Berger

            oh so now i’ve joined the Marines haha! You should man up and face time me, and see what I can show you. What’s your full name? Mine is Joseph Glenn Berger.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Sure – I don’t have a problem face timing you. Whats the point?!! Does that prove something?? LOL

          • Joe Berger

            Yes, it does. Unless you want to meet me at my San Diego residence, live video is the only way for me to show you what I have from the tattoo, to the Dd 214 to my old ID card. “I have no problem face timing you.” Ok, then what’s keeping you from doing so?

          • Joe Berger

            Yes, it does. Unless you want to meet me at my San Diego residence, live video is the only way for me to show you what I have from the tattoo, to the Dd 214 to my old ID card. “I have no problem face timing you.” Ok, then what’s keeping you from doing so?

          • Joe Berger

            Yes, it does. Unless you want to meet me at my San Diego residence, live video is the only way for me to show you what I have from the tattoo, to the Dd 214 to my old ID card. “I have no problem face timing you.” Ok, then what’s keeping you from doing so?

          • Joe Berger

            how would you know that i’d reject what you send, if you haven’t sent anything yet? And for the record, talk is cheap. So are pictures, if you aren’t in them. I will be in all of my pictures WITH my documents and items from my service. If you’d have the balls to call or email you would see that

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Sure – I don’t have a problem face timing you. Whats the point?!! Does that prove something?? LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Sure – I don’t have a problem face timing you. Whats the point?!! Does that prove something?? LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Sure – I don’t have a problem face timing you. Whats the point?!! Does that prove something?? LOL

          • Joe Berger

            oh so now i’ve joined the Marines haha! You should man up and face time me, and see what I can show you. What’s your full name? Mine is Joseph Glenn Berger.

          • Joe Berger

            oh so now i’ve joined the Marines haha! You should man up and face time me, and see what I can show you. What’s your full name? Mine is Joseph Glenn Berger.

          • Joe Berger

            oh so now i’ve joined the Marines haha! You should man up and face time me, and see what I can show you. What’s your full name? Mine is Joseph Glenn Berger.

          • Joe Berger

            http://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/november-2010-combat-awards

            -Control+F “Berger, Joseph G” and you will see my name listed under that award. And once you man up and call me via facetime (which, someone of your income should easily be able to do overseas) I will show you the DD 214, Paddle, Ribbons, The “jack” tattooed on my inner left arm (only tattoo I have, mind you), gold jump wings, and the very citation of me that is on that link.

          • Joe Berger

            http://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/november-2010-combat-awards

            -Control+F “Berger, Joseph G” and you will see my name listed under that award. And once you man up and call me via facetime (which, someone of your income should easily be able to do overseas) I will show you the DD 214, Paddle, Ribbons, The “jack” tattooed on my inner left arm (only tattoo I have, mind you), gold jump wings, and the very citation of me that is on that link.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Like I said- I have no doubts that you are who you say you are. And I am who I say I am — I am NOT going to go around posting my background on Facebook. But I will send you pics of what I have hanging on my wall at my home when my daughter in law gets around to taking pics of it.

          • Joe Berger

            No because that can be anyone’s pictures. I want a live face time chat with you standing next to those items. And I want you to watch me do the same.

          • Joe Berger

            No because that can be anyone’s pictures. I want a live face time chat with you standing next to those items. And I want you to watch me do the same.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Then YOU will have to wait little boy! Unlike you – I don’t live in my parents basement – I travel for a living – rent my house while I am gone for months on end – and will not be at THAT house till next month!!!

          • Joe Berger

            You can at least face time me and watch me show you what I have, since you have called me out multiple times and multiple times have I given you my contact info.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I told you son – I will call you at my convenience – I am on the other side of the world doing important work that guy like you would not even understand!!! LOL

          • Joe Berger

            Where? Speaking what languages? I want you to speak in all 3 languages on the phone

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Spanish – French – Mandarin

          • Joe Berger

            You’d better speak them to me. Call with a number I can call back, pussy

          • Joe Berger

            You’d better speak them to me. Call with a number I can call back, pussy

          • Joe Berger

            You’d better speak them to me. Call with a number I can call back, pussy

          • Joe Berger

            Only a troll like you would call someone, expecting them to be able to answer 24/7, from a hotel number.. I called the number back and it was the Westin hotel in Alberta, Canada. Call me with your real phone, pussy. something that I can send photos and/or facetime, and make you eat your words for ever doubting what i’ve done. If you just talk, that is no different than posting comments. All it is is a voice instead of words on a screen.

          • Joe Berger

            Only a troll like you would call someone, expecting them to be able to answer 24/7, from a hotel number.. I called the number back and it was the Westin hotel in Alberta, Canada. Call me with your real phone, pussy. something that I can send photos and/or facetime, and make you eat your words for ever doubting what i’ve done. If you just talk, that is no different than posting comments. All it is is a voice instead of words on a screen.

          • Joe Berger

            Only a troll like you would call someone, expecting them to be able to answer 24/7, from a hotel number.. I called the number back and it was the Westin hotel in Alberta, Canada. Call me with your real phone, pussy. something that I can send photos and/or facetime, and make you eat your words for ever doubting what i’ve done. If you just talk, that is no different than posting comments. All it is is a voice instead of words on a screen.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Spanish – French – Mandarin

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Spanish – French – Mandarin

          • Joe Berger

            Where? Speaking what languages? I want you to speak in all 3 languages on the phone

          • Joe Berger

            Where? Speaking what languages? I want you to speak in all 3 languages on the phone

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I had a 26 hour day yesterday followed by 4 hours sleep. What about you? You are a cop wannabe – I have your name and number and so does my employer.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I had a 26 hour day yesterday followed by 4 hours sleep. What about you? You are a cop wannabe – I have your name and number and so does my employer.

          • Joe Berger

            I was taking a final exam. Call me with a number that I can actually call back, pussy. And I dropped the ball on Camp Geiger, but that doesn’t justify the fact that you haven’t face timed me or given me a personal email and cell number. And it wasn’t the “embassy” that I called back. It was the Weston Hotel. Call me with a real number

          • Joe Berger

            I was taking a final exam. Call me with a number that I can actually call back, pussy. And I dropped the ball on Camp Geiger, but that doesn’t justify the fact that you haven’t face timed me or given me a personal email and cell number. And it wasn’t the “embassy” that I called back. It was the Weston Hotel. Call me with a real number

          • Joe Berger

            I was taking a final exam. Call me with a number that I can actually call back, pussy. And I dropped the ball on Camp Geiger, but that doesn’t justify the fact that you haven’t face timed me or given me a personal email and cell number. And it wasn’t the “embassy” that I called back. It was the Weston Hotel. Call me with a real number

          • Joe Berger

            For the last time, give me your full name, and your actual cell number. Do not call me from a Hotel and expect me to believe your story. I was never at Geiger, and I misread something on the Force Recon association guestbook about it’s location. That doesn’t exclude the fact that you haven’t shown me anything. If I am busy and cannot pick up, I need a number that I can call back that actually reaches you, that I can send photos to and facetime.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I had a 26 hour day yesterday followed by 4 hours sleep. What about you? You are a cop wannabe – I have your name and number and so does my employer.

          • Joe Berger

            You can at least face time me and watch me show you what I have, since you have called me out multiple times and multiple times have I given you my contact info.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Then YOU will have to wait little boy! Unlike you – I don’t live in my parents basement – I travel for a living – rent my house while I am gone for months on end – and will not be at THAT house till next month!!!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Then YOU will have to wait little boy! Unlike you – I don’t live in my parents basement – I travel for a living – rent my house while I am gone for months on end – and will not be at THAT house till next month!!!

          • Joe Berger

            No because that can be anyone’s pictures. I want a live face time chat with you standing next to those items. And I want you to watch me do the same.

          • Joe Berger

            “Like I said”. -you just said the opposite the other day. Call and eat your words.

          • Joe Berger

            “Like I said”. -you just said the opposite the other day. Call and eat your words.

          • Joe Berger

            “Like I said”. -you just said the opposite the other day. Call and eat your words.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Like I said- I have no doubts that you are who you say you are. And I am who I say I am — I am NOT going to go around posting my background on Facebook. But I will send you pics of what I have hanging on my wall at my home when my daughter in law gets around to taking pics of it.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Like I said- I have no doubts that you are who you say you are. And I am who I say I am — I am NOT going to go around posting my background on Facebook. But I will send you pics of what I have hanging on my wall at my home when my daughter in law gets around to taking pics of it.

          • Joe Berger

            http://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/november-2010-combat-awards

            -Control+F “Berger, Joseph G” and you will see my name listed under that award. And once you man up and call me via facetime (which, someone of your income should easily be able to do overseas) I will show you the DD 214, Paddle, Ribbons, The “jack” tattooed on my inner left arm (only tattoo I have, mind you), gold jump wings, and the very citation of me that is on that link.

          • Joe Berger

            LOL so first you said you believed me, then you didn’t think i’d even joined the Marines, now you say that I HAVE joined the Marines. Maybe you can’t get to your supposed home and show me everything you say you have. But why don’t you man up and face time me (something that I would assume a man of your stature is able to do overseas) so I can show you how stupid it is to call someone out online who is willing to show proof.

          • Joe Berger

            *yawn*

          • Joe Berger

            *yawn*

          • Joe Berger

            *yawn*

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I TRAVEL for a living – what about you? I wont even be HOME for another 8 days at least. But if I am in the mood then I might. In the meantime – enjoy life in the flat earth society where when the earth has been proven round you go on to the NEXT scandal….marines guards holding umbrellas over the President!!! LOLOLOL Another “unprecedented” scandal!! The media is Obama’s scandal condom. And no matter how rough Fox News slams this story to the hilt, they still have real trouble infecting America with their news herpes.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Fu** you boy – you Fuc**** punk. You are the typical looser who actually is so insecure you would disparage a fellow marine and disabled veteran of a war. You really are a dispicable punk. I am 62 and I bet I could BEAT YOUR short little derrier in to the ground!

          • Joe Berger

            Make the call, pussy.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I called you and like the pussy YOU are you didn’t pick up!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I called you and like the pussy YOU are you didn’t pick up!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I called you and like the pussy YOU are you didn’t pick up!

          • Joe Berger

            I was taking a final, dumbass. You left a message saying you were calling through the Canadian embassy. Funny, when I called back it was the Westin hotel in Alberta. How about you call me with your own phone, so I can actually face time, talk, and send pics of what I have? You’re too big of a pussy to do that.

          • Joe Berger

            I was taking a final, dumbass. You left a message saying you were calling through the Canadian embassy. Funny, when I called back it was the Westin hotel in Alberta. How about you call me with your own phone, so I can actually face time, talk, and send pics of what I have? You’re too big of a pussy to do that.

          • Joe Berger

            I was taking a final, dumbass. You left a message saying you were calling through the Canadian embassy. Funny, when I called back it was the Westin hotel in Alberta. How about you call me with your own phone, so I can actually face time, talk, and send pics of what I have? You’re too big of a pussy to do that.

          • Joe Berger

            and the pussy you are didn’t give a callback number or a phone that can actually be face timed. Mine can. Where’s your real number, pussy?

          • Joe Berger

            and the pussy you are didn’t give a callback number or a phone that can actually be face timed. Mine can. Where’s your real number, pussy?

          • Joe Berger

            and the pussy you are didn’t give a callback number or a phone that can actually be face timed. Mine can. Where’s your real number, pussy?

          • Joe Berger

            You called me from the Westin Hotel in Alberta, Canada and left no callback information…not the embassy like you said in your voicemail. I was taking a final exam, and couldn’t pick up. Only a troll like you would call someone, expecting them to be able to answer at any given minute, and then not leave them a callback number. Call me with a phone that I can both talk, send pics to, and facetime. If you call me just to talk it, it’s no different than these comments being exchanged…doesn’t prove a thing for either one of us. If you facetime me you can both talk and look me eye to eye and see what I have to show you, since you already called me out. If you can’t facetime then at least give me a number I can send pics and/or video to. I will be standing next to and holding up the evidence of my recent service from my “jack” tattoo to my paddle, ribbons, citation, and DD 214 which has my records on it.

          • Joe Berger

            You called me from the Westin Hotel in Alberta, Canada and left no callback information…not the embassy like you said in your voicemail. I was taking a final exam, and couldn’t pick up. Only a troll like you would call someone, expecting them to be able to answer at any given minute, and then not leave them a callback number. Call me with a phone that I can both talk, send pics to, and facetime. If you call me just to talk it, it’s no different than these comments being exchanged…doesn’t prove a thing for either one of us. If you facetime me you can both talk and look me eye to eye and see what I have to show you, since you already called me out. If you can’t facetime then at least give me a number I can send pics and/or video to. I will be standing next to and holding up the evidence of my recent service from my “jack” tattoo to my paddle, ribbons, citation, and DD 214 which has my records on it.

          • Joe Berger

            You called me from the Westin Hotel in Alberta, Canada and left no callback information…not the embassy like you said in your voicemail. I was taking a final exam, and couldn’t pick up. Only a troll like you would call someone, expecting them to be able to answer at any given minute, and then not leave them a callback number. Call me with a phone that I can both talk, send pics to, and facetime. If you call me just to talk it, it’s no different than these comments being exchanged…doesn’t prove a thing for either one of us. If you facetime me you can both talk and look me eye to eye and see what I have to show you, since you already called me out. If you can’t facetime then at least give me a number I can send pics and/or video to. I will be standing next to and holding up the evidence of my recent service from my “jack” tattoo to my paddle, ribbons, citation, and DD 214 which has my records on it.

          • Joe Berger

            Make the call, pussy.

          • Joe Berger

            Make the call, pussy.

          • Joe Berger

            what do you want me to research? that these units exist? I want pictures, documents, certificates, jump wings, dive bubble, trident, uniforms, contacts…..all documenting you doing those things.

          • Joe Berger

            what do you want me to research? that these units exist? I want pictures, documents, certificates, jump wings, dive bubble, trident, uniforms, contacts…..all documenting you doing those things.

          • Joe Berger

            what do you want me to research? that these units exist? I want pictures, documents, certificates, jump wings, dive bubble, trident, uniforms, contacts…..all documenting you doing those things.

          • Joe Berger

            oh and by the way, I want you to send me the link from google about where it says that 40 years ago, a Reconnaissance Marine could simply transfer over to a SEAL team without going to BUD/s. Also, 2nd Force was located at Camp Geiger at that time, NOT camp lejeune. don’t let this comment distract you from the other ones where I am challenging you to watch me prove to you that I am who I say I am. Make the call, pussy.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You really are a google search educated moron aren’t you? Do your own research idiot! Find out for yourself that 12th Special Forces Group was based at Richards Gebauer AFB near Warrenton Mo where I was getting my BS degree at UCM at the time. the 12th has since been disbanded!!! Do your own research about 1st Special Warfare Group based at Mare Island California close to where I lived in Vacaville California while I was studying Geology at UC Davis. I have NO idea if they are still there. You are a typical conspiracy theorist – always asking for evidence to support facts that you are either too lazy or too devoid of common sense to figure out for yourself. You are not interested in FACTS are you? You are interested in proving your point and proving me wrong. You are the kind of punk who finds it hard to believe that ANYONE can do better in life than you can. Prepare to eat my a** boy!

          • Joe Berger

            No, I’m not talking about 12th Special Forces group I’m talking about 2nd Force Recon, turd. They were at Camp Geiger in Norfolk, VA at that time. NOT Camp Lejeune. And I don’t believe in conspiracies, though it doesn’t take a scholar to know that the Benghazi attack had nothing to do with a stupid YouTube video.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Camp Geiger is PART of Camp Le Jeune – turd! We even still lived in Quonset Huts then. No Air conditioning. You have to be seen RUNNING every time you were outside the barracks in the company area and my T.O. Weapon was a Grease Gun and a K-Bar knife! That was 1969.
            I went from there to Camp Pendelton for two weeks of indoctrination after my West Pac orders and then to Okinawa and on to Camp Reasoner near Danang.
            Any other instructions or history lessons you need???? LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Camp Geiger is PART of Camp Le Jeune – turd! We even still lived in Quonset Huts then. No Air conditioning. You have to be seen RUNNING every time you were outside the barracks in the company area and my T.O. Weapon was a Grease Gun and a K-Bar knife! That was 1969.
            I went from there to Camp Pendelton for two weeks of indoctrination after my West Pac orders and then to Okinawa and on to Camp Reasoner near Danang.
            Any other instructions or history lessons you need???? LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Camp Geiger is PART of Camp Le Jeune – turd! We even still lived in Quonset Huts then. No Air conditioning. You have to be seen RUNNING every time you were outside the barracks in the company area and my T.O. Weapon was a Grease Gun and a K-Bar knife! That was 1969.
            I went from there to Camp Pendelton for two weeks of indoctrination after my West Pac orders and then to Okinawa and on to Camp Reasoner near Danang.
            Any other instructions or history lessons you need???? LOL

          • Joe Berger

            No, I’m not talking about 12th Special Forces group I’m talking about 2nd Force Recon, turd. They were at Camp Geiger in Norfolk, VA at that time. NOT Camp Lejeune. And I don’t believe in conspiracies, though it doesn’t take a scholar to know that the Benghazi attack had nothing to do with a stupid YouTube video.

          • Joe Berger

            No, I’m not talking about 12th Special Forces group I’m talking about 2nd Force Recon, turd. They were at Camp Geiger in Norfolk, VA at that time. NOT Camp Lejeune. And I don’t believe in conspiracies, though it doesn’t take a scholar to know that the Benghazi attack had nothing to do with a stupid YouTube video.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Well you are ABSOLUTELY wrong about that. Me – 2nd Force Recon 69-70 ,1st Force Recon Vietnam 70-71. B Co 3rd Recon Btn 71…….1st Special Warfare Group Mare Island California 74-75………12th Special Forces Group 79-80. Do your homework you freaking lazy bum — make sure you have a good supply of beer and cigarettes first though —— those are always more important than real research!!! I don’t smoke or drink or have tattoos which partially explains why I was able to get an MBA and Masters Level Statistics Certification!!!! Not to mention a six figure income as a professional person. What about you? Moron!

          • Joe Berger

            Well Captric…I am waiting for your proof of service. I don’t care if you believe me. I’m calling YOU out. Nobody can cross specops units from other specop units without taking the basic school for that unit. You’re worse than a “has been”, for you are in fact a “never was”. Prove me wrong and make me look bad, or everyone will know you’re a fake if you can’t do that. And I don’t care that you’re older. I would’ve thought you were a douchebag when you were 25, and still do.

          • Joe Berger

            Well Captric…I am waiting for your proof of service. I don’t care if you believe me. I’m calling YOU out. Nobody can cross specops units from other specop units without taking the basic school for that unit. You’re worse than a “has been”, for you are in fact a “never was”. Prove me wrong and make me look bad, or everyone will know you’re a fake if you can’t do that. And I don’t care that you’re older. I would’ve thought you were a douchebag when you were 25, and still do.

          • Joe Berger

            Well Captric…I am waiting for your proof of service. I don’t care if you believe me. I’m calling YOU out. Nobody can cross specops units from other specop units without taking the basic school for that unit. You’re worse than a “has been”, for you are in fact a “never was”. Prove me wrong and make me look bad, or everyone will know you’re a fake if you can’t do that. And I don’t care that you’re older. I would’ve thought you were a douchebag when you were 25, and still do.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            It’s ok – I don’t care but I believe you….no problem. Then you of all people should know that as a Force Recon Marine you are pretty much qualified automatically to serve in any special operation group in the country – especially in the reserves – which is what I did. It was fun – important – a little money while I went to college and an asset to my resume in some circles. It is only people here who have never done anything in their lives that have doubts about my credentials mostly because as true conservatives and republibots – once they have lost the argument they resort to impugning their opponent. They get that from watching TV too much and listening to 1930′s technology AM radio.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            It’s ok – I don’t care but I believe you….no problem. Then you of all people should know that as a Force Recon Marine you are pretty much qualified automatically to serve in any special operation group in the country – especially in the reserves – which is what I did. It was fun – important – a little money while I went to college and an asset to my resume in some circles. It is only people here who have never done anything in their lives that have doubts about my credentials mostly because as true conservatives and republibots – once they have lost the argument they resort to impugning their opponent. They get that from watching TV too much and listening to 1930′s technology AM radio.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Oh wow! Someone found something on the internet!!! LOL

          • Joe Berger

            Grunts, recon, and MSOB Marines do cross branches at times, but not that many times. Also nobody would claim to be force recon and marine specops when they are 2 different entities

          • Joe Berger

            Grunts, recon, and MSOB Marines do cross branches at times, but not that many times. Also nobody would claim to be force recon and marine specops when they are 2 different entities

          • Joe Berger

            Grunts, recon, and MSOB Marines do cross branches at times, but not that many times. Also nobody would claim to be force recon and marine specops when they are 2 different entities

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Ha ha — you think you know something about the marines how??? Because you read something on the internet — well that is pretty typical of the far right – claim to know something about which they have no personal experience. Like flying helicopters from Italy or Europe or Ft Bragg to Benghazi on short notice and without planning or refueling. LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You clearly know nothing about X marines then do you. Not all of us are a bunch of nicotine addicted walking tattoo billboards! Some of us have actually gone on to accomplish something in life.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You clearly know nothing about X marines then do you. Not all of us are a bunch of nicotine addicted walking tattoo billboards! Some of us have actually gone on to accomplish something in life.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You clearly know nothing about X marines then do you. Not all of us are a bunch of nicotine addicted walking tattoo billboards! Some of us have actually gone on to accomplish something in life.

          • http://www.facebook.com/Jride83 Jenna Ridenhour

            I lol’d on that one too..
            Anyone who knows anything about the marines knows that t they NEVER use the term EX MARINE. it’s an insult. Once a marine, always a marine.
            And we hardly ever cross branches!! Get real.

          • Ron

            An ex Marine special op, a former Navy SEAL and a former Army Green Beret. Haha. Uh huh.

          • Ron

            An ex Marine special op, a former Navy SEAL and a former Army Green Beret. Haha. Uh huh.

          • Kinetic K9

            being a former Navy Seal seems like you would know about the two actual Navy Seals killed that night in Benghazi or are you saying they were not killed there and are in fact lying about ever being there?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            The two ACTUAL Navy SEAL’s were civilian employees MORON! Don’t tell me you didn’t know that!!! LOL You idiots on the right never cease to amaze me.

          • $18476877

            I smell BS. To many trophies here. And a fella with these credentials, an Obamabot? Unlikely. So you qualified for top level soldiering in three different Military forces? Why?

          • $18476877

            I smell BS. To many trophies here. And a fella with these credentials, an Obamabot? Unlikely. So you qualified for top level soldiering in three different Military forces? Why?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            It is “TOO” many trophies – but then I don’t criticize others spelling because that is a what cowards on the right who have no substantive statements to make. The fact that you would doubt my credentials only shows more of the fat and pathetic underbelly of the conservative movement. Why? Because it was in my blood – after Marine Special Operations on active duty and in combat – they were also called Marine Force Recon – I got off of active duty and joined the Navy’s First Special Warfare Group – Navy SEAL’s out of Mare Island California. The as I was finishing my University Studies in the Midwest I joined the Army Reserves 12th Special Forces Group (Green Beret’s). At the time we were based out of Richards Gabauer AF Base in Warrenton MO. Richards Goober has since been shut down. Question answered?

          • Joe Berger

            Absolutely not answered. I was with 1st Recon battalion, and deployed to Iraq in 08 and Afghanistan in summer of 2010. I am not with “Force Recon”. I am merely a reconnaissance marine in the battalion. Stayed in Bravo Company the whole time. Force Recon company is NOT the same as Marine Special Operations Battalion (MSOB). MSOB was created in 2006 and originally had taken operators from Force Recon company to start the unit up. That was temporary, as it did not replace the long range reconnaissance asset that the Marine Division requires form Force Recon. MSOB does not work for the Marine Division, as they fall under SOCOM. So I call bullshit on you. You also never answered my question on how and when you transferred over to BUD/s from the Marine Corps, or from SEALs to the Q course that is required to get into Army SF. Your attitude and constant bickering with strangers is not the attitude of someone with even half the credentials you state. Look me up on facebook and prove it.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            OK – since you actually know something about this then I will drop the generalities that are designed for a barely knowledgable public. I trained with 2nd Force Recon in Camp Lejeune 1969- went to Viet Nam with 1st Force Recon 1970 and 71- was shot and sent to Naval Hospital on Guam – then BACK to Okinawa with B Co 3rd Recon Battalion and back to Viet Nam on a Float – Specifically we were on a LPD. Discharged and went to College at UC Davis and joined a Reserve Navy SEAL team at Mare Island part of 1st Special Warfare Group who were co located with a Small Boat Riverine Warfare Squadron – whose boats we used to insert and extract up in the Sacramento River Basin playing aggressors for the Marines often times. Then I finished my undergraduate degree in the Mid West and was excepted in the Army Reserves 12th Special Forces Group on an A team mostly practicing mission designed to be inserted in N Korea. We would fly to White Sands Missile Range and jump out of C130′s in the middle of the night among other things.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            OK – since you actually know something about this then I will drop the generalities that are designed for a barely knowledgable public. I trained with 2nd Force Recon in Camp Lejeune 1969- went to Viet Nam with 1st Force Recon 1970 and 71- was shot and sent to Naval Hospital on Guam – then BACK to Okinawa with B Co 3rd Recon Battalion and back to Viet Nam on a Float – Specifically we were on a LPD. Discharged and went to College at UC Davis and joined a Reserve Navy SEAL team at Mare Island part of 1st Special Warfare Group who were co located with a Small Boat Riverine Warfare Squadron – whose boats we used to insert and extract up in the Sacramento River Basin playing aggressors for the Marines often times. Then I finished my undergraduate degree in the Mid West and was excepted in the Army Reserves 12th Special Forces Group on an A team mostly practicing mission designed to be inserted in N Korea. We would fly to White Sands Missile Range and jump out of C130′s in the middle of the night among other things.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            OK – since you actually know something about this then I will drop the generalities that are designed for a barely knowledgable public. I trained with 2nd Force Recon in Camp Lejeune 1969- went to Viet Nam with 1st Force Recon 1970 and 71- was shot and sent to Naval Hospital on Guam – then BACK to Okinawa with B Co 3rd Recon Battalion and back to Viet Nam on a Float – Specifically we were on a LPD. Discharged and went to College at UC Davis and joined a Reserve Navy SEAL team at Mare Island part of 1st Special Warfare Group who were co located with a Small Boat Riverine Warfare Squadron – whose boats we used to insert and extract up in the Sacramento River Basin playing aggressors for the Marines often times. Then I finished my undergraduate degree in the Mid West and was excepted in the Army Reserves 12th Special Forces Group on an A team mostly practicing mission designed to be inserted in N Korea. We would fly to White Sands Missile Range and jump out of C130′s in the middle of the night among other things.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            OK – since you actually know something about this then I will drop the generalities that are designed for a barely knowledgable public. I trained with 2nd Force Recon in Camp Lejeune 1969- went to Viet Nam with 1st Force Recon 1970 and 71- was shot and sent to Naval Hospital on Guam – then BACK to Okinawa with B Co 3rd Recon Battalion and back to Viet Nam on a Float – Specifically we were on a LPD. Discharged and went to College at UC Davis and joined a Reserve Navy SEAL team at Mare Island part of 1st Special Warfare Group who were co located with a Small Boat Riverine Warfare Squadron – whose boats we used to insert and extract up in the Sacramento River Basin playing aggressors for the Marines often times. Then I finished my undergraduate degree in the Mid West and was excepted in the Army Reserves 12th Special Forces Group on an A team mostly practicing mission designed to be inserted in N Korea. We would fly to White Sands Missile Range and jump out of C130′s in the middle of the night among other things.

          • Joe Berger

            Absolutely not answered. I was with 1st Recon battalion, and deployed to Iraq in 08 and Afghanistan in summer of 2010. I am not with “Force Recon”. I am merely a reconnaissance marine in the battalion. Stayed in Bravo Company the whole time. Force Recon company is NOT the same as Marine Special Operations Battalion (MSOB). MSOB was created in 2006 and originally had taken operators from Force Recon company to start the unit up. That was temporary, as it did not replace the long range reconnaissance asset that the Marine Division requires form Force Recon. MSOB does not work for the Marine Division, as they fall under SOCOM. So I call bullshit on you. You also never answered my question on how and when you transferred over to BUD/s from the Marine Corps, or from SEALs to the Q course that is required to get into Army SF. Your attitude and constant bickering with strangers is not the attitude of someone with even half the credentials you state. Look me up on facebook and prove it.

          • Joe Berger

            Absolutely not answered. I was with 1st Recon battalion, and deployed to Iraq in 08 and Afghanistan in summer of 2010. I am not with “Force Recon”. I am merely a reconnaissance marine in the battalion. Stayed in Bravo Company the whole time. Force Recon company is NOT the same as Marine Special Operations Battalion (MSOB). MSOB was created in 2006 and originally had taken operators from Force Recon company to start the unit up. That was temporary, as it did not replace the long range reconnaissance asset that the Marine Division requires form Force Recon. MSOB does not work for the Marine Division, as they fall under SOCOM. So I call bullshit on you. You also never answered my question on how and when you transferred over to BUD/s from the Marine Corps, or from SEALs to the Q course that is required to get into Army SF. Your attitude and constant bickering with strangers is not the attitude of someone with even half the credentials you state. Look me up on facebook and prove it.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1437483570 Christine Guinn

            LOL!! BUSTED!!

            Richards Gabauer AF Base was not in Warrenton, MO. (I know, because I live near Warrenton, and drive through there all of the time. Richards Gabauer AF Base was located south of Kansas City, (about 240 miles from Warrenton.) Also, no Army units were EVER stationed there.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richards-Gebaur_Air_Force_Base
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_Special_Forces_Group

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Busted??? You are a freaking idiot!!! You right wing nut jobs are so anxious to find something you make yourself look FOOLISH!!!! I LIVED in Warrenton you hillbilly!!! Rchards Gabauer was RIGHT THERE. Go sell your stupidity and ignorance somewhere else moron….! Whats next???? 12 Special Forces Group was not at RB??????

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Busted??? You are a freaking idiot!!! You right wing nut jobs are so anxious to find something you make yourself look FOOLISH!!!! I LIVED in Warrenton you hillbilly!!! Rchards Gabauer was RIGHT THERE. Go sell your stupidity and ignorance somewhere else moron….! Whats next???? 12 Special Forces Group was not at RB??????

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Busted??? You are a freaking idiot!!! You right wing nut jobs are so anxious to find something you make yourself look FOOLISH!!!! I LIVED in Warrenton you hillbilly!!! Rchards Gabauer was RIGHT THERE. Go sell your stupidity and ignorance somewhere else moron….! Whats next???? 12 Special Forces Group was not at RB??????

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Busted??? You are a freaking idiot!!! You right wing nut jobs are so anxious to find something you make yourself look FOOLISH!!!! I LIVED in Warrenton you hillbilly!!! Rchards Gabauer was RIGHT THERE. Go sell your stupidity and ignorance somewhere else moron….! Whats next???? 12 Special Forces Group was not at RB??????

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            People like you represent the heart and soul of the conservative movement. Living in hillbilly rural Missouri and getting your so called “education” from you tube videos and Rush Limpwrist. What a complete fool you are! RB was not in Warrenton!! Its so freaking close I DROVE there every weekend moron!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            People like you represent the heart and soul of the conservative movement. Living in hillbilly rural Missouri and getting your so called “education” from you tube videos and Rush Limpwrist. What a complete fool you are! RB was not in Warrenton!! Its so freaking close I DROVE there every weekend moron!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            People like you represent the heart and soul of the conservative movement. Living in hillbilly rural Missouri and getting your so called “education” from you tube videos and Rush Limpwrist. What a complete fool you are! RB was not in Warrenton!! Its so freaking close I DROVE there every weekend moron!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            People like you represent the heart and soul of the conservative movement. Living in hillbilly rural Missouri and getting your so called “education” from you tube videos and Rush Limpwrist. What a complete fool you are! RB was not in Warrenton!! Its so freaking close I DROVE there every weekend moron!

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1437483570 Christine Guinn

            LOL!! BUSTED!!

            Richards Gabauer AF Base was not in Warrenton, MO. (I know, because I live near Warrenton, and drive through there all of the time. Richards Gabauer AF Base was located south of Kansas City, (about 240 miles from Warrenton.) Also, no Army units were EVER stationed there.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richards-Gebaur_Air_Force_Base
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_Special_Forces_Group

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1437483570 Christine Guinn

            LOL!! BUSTED!!

            Richards Gabauer AF Base was not in Warrenton, MO. (I know, because I live near Warrenton, and drive through there all of the time. Richards Gabauer AF Base was located south of Kansas City, (about 240 miles from Warrenton.) Also, no Army units were EVER stationed there.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richards-Gebaur_Air_Force_Base
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_Special_Forces_Group

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1437483570 Christine Guinn

            LOL!! BUSTED!!

            Richards Gabauer AF Base was not in Warrenton, MO. (I know, because I live near Warrenton, and drive through there all of the time. Richards Gabauer AF Base was located south of Kansas City, (about 240 miles from Warrenton.) Also, no Army units were EVER stationed there.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richards-Gebaur_Air_Force_Base
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_Special_Forces_Group

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            It is “TOO” many trophies – but then I don’t criticize others spelling because that is a what cowards on the right who have no substantive statements to make. The fact that you would doubt my credentials only shows more of the fat and pathetic underbelly of the conservative movement. Why? Because it was in my blood – after Marine Special Operations on active duty and in combat – they were also called Marine Force Recon – I got off of active duty and joined the Navy’s First Special Warfare Group – Navy SEAL’s out of Mare Island California. The as I was finishing my University Studies in the Midwest I joined the Army Reserves 12th Special Forces Group (Green Beret’s). At the time we were based out of Richards Gabauer AF Base in Warrenton MO. Richards Goober has since been shut down. Question answered?

          • $18476877

            I smell BS. To many trophies here. And a fella with these credentials, an Obamabot? Unlikely. So you qualified for top level soldiering in three different Military forces? Why?

          • $18476877

            I smell BS. To many trophies here. And a fella with these credentials, an Obamabot? Unlikely. So you qualified for top level soldiering in three different Military forces? Why?

          • Joe Berger

            Not to mention that SEAL teams are not located in Mare Island. Only special boat unit 11 is located there.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            They WERE then know it all! Why would a weak coward like you question the credibility of someones service? Are you that insecure?

          • Joe Berger

            No, I know what i’ve done as a Recon Marine, and I don’t need to go telling everyone on here. I’m questioning you because you either are completely full of crap and are really good at googling this stuff, or you were one of the turds who slips through the cracks in training and was hated, and claims to do more than what you actually did. “Qualify for 12th Special Forces” OK, even in a reserve A team, you still have to go through the Q course. Just like even as a prior service recon marine, ranger, PJ, whatever….has to go through BUD/s to get into a Navy Specwar unit. There’s no shortcuts, because regardless of what you have done, they have to make sure you are still in good mental and physical condition for the job, and have the same baseline of training for how THEY do things. And “trained with 2nd Force Recon” ok….how did you get in in the first place? Did you take the screening at SOI, and then go to BRC? Message me on facebook. I promise i’ll keep it anonymous

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You were NEVER in Recon you week little prick. You have never done anything which is why you don’t know anything. What you know about Spec Ops is laughable!!!! You freaking idiot! Don’t you know things have changed in the last 40 freaking years????? You have never even been a marine would be my bet. You certainly have never been on a rescue mission like Benghazi otherwise you would have killed ANOTHER 25 SEAL’s when their helicopter ran out of gas halfway to Benghazi!! LOL

          • Joe Berger

            Here’s my number 858 776 7082. here’s my email josephgberger@yahoo.com and my facebook can be found with that email. I have pictures, videos, and contacts including staff NCOs that can vouch for what i’ve done. What do you have?

            And why does your xanga say you have a masters in statistics when your original comment about that on this page stated that you have a masters in management and technical experience in stats? Everyone knows you’re lying.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You still doubting me you little fag? Go get an education and do some REAL research. I mean the sort of research required of people who get Masters degrees from a reputable University. I WILL call you but right now – I am in a foreign country!! How about you? Do you speak in foreign languages?? And I will not even be back home for another 8 days at least.

          • Joe Berger

            You don’t research to find out if someone served or not. They prove it to you, because they have photos, documents, and contacts that can vouch for them. You have nothing. Bet you won’t call, and won’t have anything to show for yourself. I am friends with a LOT of recon marines on facebook. Why don’t you go ahead and make me look bad in front of all of them, and prove me wrong? You can even “face time” the phone call, and I will show you everything from my “jack”, my paddle w/ribbons, DD214, NAM with “V”. It would be so easy to make me look bad if you are who you say you are.

          • Joe Berger

            You don’t research to find out if someone served or not. They prove it to you, because they have photos, documents, and contacts that can vouch for them. You have nothing. Bet you won’t call, and won’t have anything to show for yourself. I am friends with a LOT of recon marines on facebook. Why don’t you go ahead and make me look bad in front of all of them, and prove me wrong? You can even “face time” the phone call, and I will show you everything from my “jack”, my paddle w/ribbons, DD214, NAM with “V”. It would be so easy to make me look bad if you are who you say you are.

          • Joe Berger

            You don’t research to find out if someone served or not. They prove it to you, because they have photos, documents, and contacts that can vouch for them. You have nothing. Bet you won’t call, and won’t have anything to show for yourself. I am friends with a LOT of recon marines on facebook. Why don’t you go ahead and make me look bad in front of all of them, and prove me wrong? You can even “face time” the phone call, and I will show you everything from my “jack”, my paddle w/ribbons, DD214, NAM with “V”. It would be so easy to make me look bad if you are who you say you are.

          • Joe Berger

            You don’t research to find out if someone served or not. They prove it to you, because they have photos, documents, and contacts that can vouch for them. You have nothing. Bet you won’t call, and won’t have anything to show for yourself. I am friends with a LOT of recon marines on facebook. Why don’t you go ahead and make me look bad in front of all of them, and prove me wrong? You can even “face time” the phone call, and I will show you everything from my “jack”, my paddle w/ribbons, DD214, NAM with “V”. It would be so easy to make me look bad if you are who you say you are.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You still doubting me you little fag? Go get an education and do some REAL research. I mean the sort of research required of people who get Masters degrees from a reputable University. I WILL call you but right now – I am in a foreign country!! How about you? Do you speak in foreign languages?? And I will not even be back home for another 8 days at least.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You still doubting me you little fag? Go get an education and do some REAL research. I mean the sort of research required of people who get Masters degrees from a reputable University. I WILL call you but right now – I am in a foreign country!! How about you? Do you speak in foreign languages?? And I will not even be back home for another 8 days at least.

          • Joe Berger

            Here’s my number 858 776 7082. here’s my email josephgberger@yahoo.com and my facebook can be found with that email. I have pictures, videos, and contacts including staff NCOs that can vouch for what i’ve done. What do you have?

            And why does your xanga say you have a masters in statistics when your original comment about that on this page stated that you have a masters in management and technical experience in stats? Everyone knows you’re lying.

          • Joe Berger

            Here’s my number 858 776 7082. here’s my email josephgberger@yahoo.com and my facebook can be found with that email. I have pictures, videos, and contacts including staff NCOs that can vouch for what i’ve done. What do you have?

            And why does your xanga say you have a masters in statistics when your original comment about that on this page stated that you have a masters in management and technical experience in stats? Everyone knows you’re lying.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You were NEVER in Recon you week little prick. You have never done anything which is why you don’t know anything. What you know about Spec Ops is laughable!!!! You freaking idiot! Don’t you know things have changed in the last 40 freaking years????? You have never even been a marine would be my bet. You certainly have never been on a rescue mission like Benghazi otherwise you would have killed ANOTHER 25 SEAL’s when their helicopter ran out of gas halfway to Benghazi!! LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You were NEVER in Recon you week little prick. You have never done anything which is why you don’t know anything. What you know about Spec Ops is laughable!!!! You freaking idiot! Don’t you know things have changed in the last 40 freaking years????? You have never even been a marine would be my bet. You certainly have never been on a rescue mission like Benghazi otherwise you would have killed ANOTHER 25 SEAL’s when their helicopter ran out of gas halfway to Benghazi!! LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You were NEVER in Recon you week little prick. You have never done anything which is why you don’t know anything. What you know about Spec Ops is laughable!!!! You freaking idiot! Don’t you know things have changed in the last 40 freaking years????? You have never even been a marine would be my bet. You certainly have never been on a rescue mission like Benghazi otherwise you would have killed ANOTHER 25 SEAL’s when their helicopter ran out of gas halfway to Benghazi!! LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            They WERE then know it all! Why would a weak coward like you question the credibility of someones service? Are you that insecure?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Maybe you are not smart enough to consult wikipedia. LOL

          • Joe Berger

            no, maybe i’m just not on here as often as someone who makes 6 figures. Because clearly everyone knows that successful people spend their days arguing with multiple people they don’t know on the internet. get real. or better yet, make me look bad and prove me wrong about your specops credentials. you won’t do it, because it’s impossible. you aren’t who you say you are. that may be the only fact on this page.

          • Joe Berger

            no, maybe i’m just not on here as often as someone who makes 6 figures. Because clearly everyone knows that successful people spend their days arguing with multiple people they don’t know on the internet. get real. or better yet, make me look bad and prove me wrong about your specops credentials. you won’t do it, because it’s impossible. you aren’t who you say you are. that may be the only fact on this page.

          • Joe Berger

            no, maybe i’m just not on here as often as someone who makes 6 figures. Because clearly everyone knows that successful people spend their days arguing with multiple people they don’t know on the internet. get real. or better yet, make me look bad and prove me wrong about your specops credentials. you won’t do it, because it’s impossible. you aren’t who you say you are. that may be the only fact on this page.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            No – you cannot people who still believe in ghosts of much of anything thats a fact. So you convince yourself that since you saw it on TV or read it on the internet it must be true! LOL Are you telling me that you were on a recon team but you don’t know the range of a helicopter? How about the range of an F-16. Where were these type of assets during said fire fight? WHY did the two CIA security personnel killed have to get there on a personal jet? WHY did they initially load up in a armored Land Cruiser? How long would it take to DRIVE to Benghazi (let me give you a hint – 13 freaking hours!!!) How are you going to get the D Force there in time to make a difference when they have to come from Fort Benning – thats AFTER you get them out of the local bars! How are you going to get F-16′s there? Ad what is an F-16 going to do? BUZZ the compound in the middle of the night over busy city with TV station and Radio towers in the middle of the night? What happens when they shoot him down with a man pad? What is he going to do when he finally runs out of fuel? These guys were probably set up in every quadrant just WAITING for a rescue chopper to arrive so they can shoot it down with RPG’s just like they did the SEAL’s who tried to save the Sniper Team in Afghanistan. The complexitites are NEVER ending and maybe THAT is why you are not a military or civilian commander and I am.

          • Joe Berger

            I didn’t argue with you on those points! I’m simply calling you out because you can’t prove to me that you served, while I am THROWING information at you about myself, and can happily prove my service to you and get others to do so as well. God, you are really bad at arguments. You have mixed and matched people for other people on here more than once. Guess that’s what happens when you spend time arguing with so many different people at once. Tough to keep tabs on them all, eh?

          • ThatGuy

            He’s a troll, when he can’t argue a point he goes back to his pointless rhetoric. Arguing with him is kind of like arguing with automated phone attendants, pointless.

          • ThatGuy

            He’s a troll, when he can’t argue a point he goes back to his pointless rhetoric. Arguing with him is kind of like arguing with automated phone attendants, pointless.

          • ThatGuy

            He’s a troll, when he can’t argue a point he goes back to his pointless rhetoric. Arguing with him is kind of like arguing with automated phone attendants, pointless.

          • ThatGuy

            He’s a troll, when he can’t argue a point he goes back to his pointless rhetoric. Arguing with him is kind of like arguing with automated phone attendants, pointless.

          • Joe Berger

            I didn’t argue with you on those points! I’m simply calling you out because you can’t prove to me that you served, while I am THROWING information at you about myself, and can happily prove my service to you and get others to do so as well. God, you are really bad at arguments. You have mixed and matched people for other people on here more than once. Guess that’s what happens when you spend time arguing with so many different people at once. Tough to keep tabs on them all, eh?

          • Joe Berger

            I didn’t argue with you on those points! I’m simply calling you out because you can’t prove to me that you served, while I am THROWING information at you about myself, and can happily prove my service to you and get others to do so as well. God, you are really bad at arguments. You have mixed and matched people for other people on here more than once. Guess that’s what happens when you spend time arguing with so many different people at once. Tough to keep tabs on them all, eh?

          • Joe Berger

            I didn’t argue with you on those points! I’m simply calling you out because you can’t prove to me that you served, while I am THROWING information at you about myself, and can happily prove my service to you and get others to do so as well. God, you are really bad at arguments. You have mixed and matched people for other people on here more than once. Guess that’s what happens when you spend time arguing with so many different people at once. Tough to keep tabs on them all, eh?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            No – you cannot people who still believe in ghosts of much of anything thats a fact. So you convince yourself that since you saw it on TV or read it on the internet it must be true! LOL Are you telling me that you were on a recon team but you don’t know the range of a helicopter? How about the range of an F-16. Where were these type of assets during said fire fight? WHY did the two CIA security personnel killed have to get there on a personal jet? WHY did they initially load up in a armored Land Cruiser? How long would it take to DRIVE to Benghazi (let me give you a hint – 13 freaking hours!!!) How are you going to get the D Force there in time to make a difference when they have to come from Fort Benning – thats AFTER you get them out of the local bars! How are you going to get F-16′s there? Ad what is an F-16 going to do? BUZZ the compound in the middle of the night over busy city with TV station and Radio towers in the middle of the night? What happens when they shoot him down with a man pad? What is he going to do when he finally runs out of fuel? These guys were probably set up in every quadrant just WAITING for a rescue chopper to arrive so they can shoot it down with RPG’s just like they did the SEAL’s who tried to save the Sniper Team in Afghanistan. The complexitites are NEVER ending and maybe THAT is why you are not a military or civilian commander and I am.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            No – you cannot people who still believe in ghosts of much of anything thats a fact. So you convince yourself that since you saw it on TV or read it on the internet it must be true! LOL Are you telling me that you were on a recon team but you don’t know the range of a helicopter? How about the range of an F-16. Where were these type of assets during said fire fight? WHY did the two CIA security personnel killed have to get there on a personal jet? WHY did they initially load up in a armored Land Cruiser? How long would it take to DRIVE to Benghazi (let me give you a hint – 13 freaking hours!!!) How are you going to get the D Force there in time to make a difference when they have to come from Fort Benning – thats AFTER you get them out of the local bars! How are you going to get F-16′s there? Ad what is an F-16 going to do? BUZZ the compound in the middle of the night over busy city with TV station and Radio towers in the middle of the night? What happens when they shoot him down with a man pad? What is he going to do when he finally runs out of fuel? These guys were probably set up in every quadrant just WAITING for a rescue chopper to arrive so they can shoot it down with RPG’s just like they did the SEAL’s who tried to save the Sniper Team in Afghanistan. The complexitites are NEVER ending and maybe THAT is why you are not a military or civilian commander and I am.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            No – you cannot people who still believe in ghosts of much of anything thats a fact. So you convince yourself that since you saw it on TV or read it on the internet it must be true! LOL Are you telling me that you were on a recon team but you don’t know the range of a helicopter? How about the range of an F-16. Where were these type of assets during said fire fight? WHY did the two CIA security personnel killed have to get there on a personal jet? WHY did they initially load up in a armored Land Cruiser? How long would it take to DRIVE to Benghazi (let me give you a hint – 13 freaking hours!!!) How are you going to get the D Force there in time to make a difference when they have to come from Fort Benning – thats AFTER you get them out of the local bars! How are you going to get F-16′s there? Ad what is an F-16 going to do? BUZZ the compound in the middle of the night over busy city with TV station and Radio towers in the middle of the night? What happens when they shoot him down with a man pad? What is he going to do when he finally runs out of fuel? These guys were probably set up in every quadrant just WAITING for a rescue chopper to arrive so they can shoot it down with RPG’s just like they did the SEAL’s who tried to save the Sniper Team in Afghanistan. The complexitites are NEVER ending and maybe THAT is why you are not a military or civilian commander and I am.

          • ThatGuy

            Right? He makes it sound like he’s awfully busy, yet he seems to have more time to spend arguing on this site (and others) than both of us combined.

          • ThatGuy

            Right? He makes it sound like he’s awfully busy, yet he seems to have more time to spend arguing on this site (and others) than both of us combined.

          • ThatGuy

            Right? He makes it sound like he’s awfully busy, yet he seems to have more time to spend arguing on this site (and others) than both of us combined.

          • Joe Berger

            no, maybe i’m just not on here as often as someone who makes 6 figures. Because clearly everyone knows that successful people spend their days arguing with multiple people they don’t know on the internet. get real. or better yet, make me look bad and prove me wrong about your specops credentials. you won’t do it, because it’s impossible. you aren’t who you say you are. that may be the only fact on this page.

          • Joe Berger

            Not to mention that SEAL teams are not located in Mare Island. Only special boat unit 11 is located there.

          • Joe Berger

            Not to mention that SEAL teams are not located in Mare Island. Only special boat unit 11 is located there.

          • Joe Berger

            Not to mention that SEAL teams are not located in Mare Island. Only special boat unit 11 is located there.

          • Cave Man

            I call bs! 3 special forces groups in 3 different branches? Who are you, super commando? And go ahead, tell me what I don’t know about the military. And I hope you know that there are groups that look into fake military service claims. Especially when it involves special forces claims. What was your name again?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Go ahead and check know it all. Better read above first. You do not believe because you have never done anything yourself and project your weak and ineffective level of training on other people. You know nothing about me and to my great advantage – YOU underestimate me.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Go ahead and check know it all. Better read above first. You do not believe because you have never done anything yourself and project your weak and ineffective level of training on other people. You know nothing about me and to my great advantage – YOU underestimate me.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Go ahead and check know it all. Better read above first. You do not believe because you have never done anything yourself and project your weak and ineffective level of training on other people. You know nothing about me and to my great advantage – YOU underestimate me.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Whats your name again? and your DOB. I do not have to lie. The reason that you cannot believe it is because you have such a shallow pool of experience to draw from. I bet you only speak one language too. And have never lived in a foreign country or driven a race, sailed a boat let alone owned one, or flown an airplane right. But I bet you would be willing to TELL me what all of those things are like because you can google search them. You are the typical right wing wacko – a know it all who really know nothing and judges other people accomplishments by the lack of his own. You set a pretty low standard – boy.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Whats your name again? and your DOB. I do not have to lie. The reason that you cannot believe it is because you have such a shallow pool of experience to draw from. I bet you only speak one language too. And have never lived in a foreign country or driven a race, sailed a boat let alone owned one, or flown an airplane right. But I bet you would be willing to TELL me what all of those things are like because you can google search them. You are the typical right wing wacko – a know it all who really know nothing and judges other people accomplishments by the lack of his own. You set a pretty low standard – boy.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Whats your name again? and your DOB. I do not have to lie. The reason that you cannot believe it is because you have such a shallow pool of experience to draw from. I bet you only speak one language too. And have never lived in a foreign country or driven a race, sailed a boat let alone owned one, or flown an airplane right. But I bet you would be willing to TELL me what all of those things are like because you can google search them. You are the typical right wing wacko – a know it all who really know nothing and judges other people accomplishments by the lack of his own. You set a pretty low standard – boy.

          • Cave Man

            I call bs! 3 special forces groups in 3 different branches? Who are you, super commando? And go ahead, tell me what I don’t know about the military. And I hope you know that there are groups that look into fake military service claims. Especially when it involves special forces claims. What was your name again?

          • Cave Man

            I call bs! 3 special forces groups in 3 different branches? Who are you, super commando? And go ahead, tell me what I don’t know about the military. And I hope you know that there are groups that look into fake military service claims. Especially when it involves special forces claims. What was your name again?

          • Cave Man

            I call bs! 3 special forces groups in 3 different branches? Who are you, super commando? And go ahead, tell me what I don’t know about the military. And I hope you know that there are groups that look into fake military service claims. Especially when it involves special forces claims. What was your name again?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I am not paid —- I am an Ex Marine Special Operator with combat experinece and a former Navy SEAL and Army Green Beret. I fly AIRPLANES for a living and have a masters degree in Management and a technical experience in Statistics. That means I can pretty well separate the BS from the facts. Unlike you and your ilk who do not know the difference between fiction and fantasy!

          • GEORGE SOROS

            YOU ARE A PAID ODUMBO DRONE.

          • GEORGE SOROS

            YOU ARE A PAID ODUMBO DRONE.

          • GEORGE SOROS

            YOU ARE A PAID ODUMBO DRONE.

          • Anthony

            Yes, in incidents like that he does. Only him or the Sec Def can authorize emergency miltary action. He is Commander and Cheif of the military. Isn’t that what “he” did when “he got Osama” … Not to mention it has been proven that the QRF teams, and military leaders in the area were told to stand down around 2am that night. Came out in the hearings.

          • ADRoberts

            If Stewart attacked Obama, it with a purpose to protect Obama from the Benghazi investigation. Stewart is a died in the wool liberal and would NEVER attack Obama unless there was another purpose.

          • ADRoberts

            If Stewart attacked Obama, it with a purpose to protect Obama from the Benghazi investigation. Stewart is a died in the wool liberal and would NEVER attack Obama unless there was another purpose.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            The purpose was COMEDY!!!!

          • Obama_Dogeater

            Nice job trying to defend the indefensible, douchebag.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Nice name dog eater – that pretty much shows how weak your bi partisan mind is. You want some facts???

            On the day of the attacks on the mission and a nearby annex in Benghazi, General Ham and other commanders were in Washington for a series of long-planned meetings. The Pentagon’s national military command center distributed a report around 4:30 p.m., 50 minutes after the assault started, that there had been violence in Benghazi and that the ambassador could not be located.

            President Obama was informed about the attack at 5 p.m. by his national security adviser, Thomas E. Donilon, at the start of a meeting at the White House with Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta and Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Libya was not the only worry. There were also protests at the United States’ embassies in Tunisia, Egypt and Yemen.

            In the meeting, Mr. Obama ordered the Pentagon to begin “mobilizing all available military assets to respond to a range of contingencies in Libya and other countries in the region,” said Tommy Vietor, a spokesman for the National Security Council.

            But the administration was not well positioned to respond quickly. On the night of the attack, the Pentagon was able to divert an unarmed Predator drone operating 90 miles away to Benghazi, and the C.I.A. later used it to help plan an escape route for the surviving Americans.

            Two military officers working at the embassy in Tripoli volunteered to join C.I.A. reinforcements who arrived in Benghazi early the next morning, just before a series of deadly mortar rounds struck the agency’s annex in Benghazi and killed two C.I.A. security contractors.

            But other military forces were too far away or could not be mobilized in time. The closest AC-130 gunship, a devastating and accurate weapon against insurgents in urban areas, was in Afghanistan, a senior official said.

            There are no armed drones within range of Libya. The closest fly out of Djibouti, in the Horn of Africa, and were not in range of Benghazi. There was no Marine expeditionary unit — a large seaborne force with its own helicopters — in the Mediterranean Sea. American F-16 fighters in Europe were not on alert, and General Ham concluded they would not have been useful in a confused fight in a major Arab city.

            Acting on Mr. Obama’s order, the staff of the Joint Chiefs presented the options. Around 6:30 p.m., oral instructions were given for the units to get ready to deploy and formal deployment orders were issued after 8:30 p.m. The early reports in Washington noted that Ambassador Stevens was missing, and a major worry was that a hostage-rescue mission might be needed.

            The Pentagon sent the Delta Force commandos to the Sigonella base in Sicily, to put them in position to deploy to Libya. Two 50-strong platoons of specially trained Marines, from Rota, Spain, were ordered to get ready to deploy, too.

            Another option approved was to send the European Command’s quick-reaction force, which consists of about four dozen Special Forces soldiers and other specialists. But it was in the middle of a mission in Croatia. Elements of the team began leaving for Sigonella by 9 p.m., and the unit completed its deployment to Sicily shortly after noon the next day, a Pentagon official said. By then the 30 or so surviving Americans, and the bodies of their four colleagues, were in Tripoli.

          • ADRoberts

            If Stewart attacked Obama, it with a purpose to protect Obama from the Benghazi investigation. Stewart is a died in the wool liberal and would NEVER attack Obama unless there was another purpose.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            BS!!!! When were YOU in the military???? When he “got Osama” he only authorized the SEAL Team raid after weighing the pros and cons of the other two alternatives! Then he watched the raid from the IR camera of a drone. He didn’t tell them WHEN to shoot or Where to land!!! “It has been proven that the QRF teams and military leaders were told to stand down”??? BY WHO?? Did you even watch the hearing? NOTHING new was said. One guy says he “WISHED” they could have gotten a fighter to “buzz” the compound to scare the bad guys away!! What a freaking STUPID idea. The only QRF was the Marine Anti Terror Team in Tripoli! They responded as soon as they could from 650 miles away! That is a 13 hour drive across one of the biggest deserts in the world.
            I dont think you have a clue what you are talking about!

          • oohmygosh

            What ARE you drinking?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I am drinking pragmatic truth and mathematically correct thinking devoid of partisanship. You should try it sometime.

          • ThatGuy

            - Captric, I find your posts perversely amusing. They’re sort of like a train-wreck, I know I shouldn’t look, but can’t quite look away. Let’s analyze some of your ‘words of wisdom’ shall we?

            Captric – “How sad it is for someone like you to go through life basing your decissions and your moral compass on a 2000 year old bronze age cult that has been proven time and again to be a fraud.”

            Captric – “I have seen a few people die on a battlefield – you have not – NO ONE said oh god oh god. Even if they DID it doesn’t prove a god you moron. A common trait of republipukes is to believe things that are not true – like ghosts and demons and zombie jesus and conspiracies about how the President left people to die in Libya and called for the IRS to audit only tea partiers! LOL”

            Captric – “Put your pants back on Fag boy ——-“

            Captric – “Another know it who actually knows nothing at all. You question me you little fag?”

            - So wait, you’re a homophobic, hate-mongering, Atheist? I thought it was the position of Atheists everywhere that religion was the cause of this sort of intolerance? What happened to your “Atheists more compassionate than believers” twitter post on 05/05/2012? Or your post (found in the comments here – http://www.revelife.com/771037476/idols-what-are-you-bowing-to/) that “people in the world who barely even give any thought to a God” are “the most delightful, happy and richly blessed people I have ever met.” I must say, you don’t strike me as terribly delightful, what with the hate-speech and all.

            Captric – “You are typical sort of coward from the republibot party – throwing insults from the safety of your laptop! LOL This is why no one takes you people serious. You are SO eager to find a conspiracy you look foolish in your one sentence PROOFS of misconduct reaching the President or Secretary of State. When you want an education – hit me up – I can also teach you some respect – boy.”

            Captric – “You gotta love the two word sentences. Exactly what I have come to expect from the deep thinkers of the Republibot party.”

            Captric – “Awwwwww — whats the matter — you have thin skin — that is pretty typical of chicken hawks from the republibot party of illiterate morons and do nothing alcoholic nicotine addicts.”

            Captric – “More one sentence insults from internet cowards! You gotta love the republipuke party!”

            Captric – “You are an idiot and a moron.”

            Captric – “That coming from a stool for brains illiterate republibot? LOL”

            Captric – “Son— I could kick you fat arsse intellectually or physically old man.”

            Captric – “Unbeleivable – you are a simple minded fool!!”

            - Isn’t it a little hypocritical to complain about people ‘throwing insults’ from the safety of their laptops, using short responses, and one sentence insults, when we have plenty of examples of you responding with such wisdom as “You are an idiot and a moron”?

            Captric – “Did you mean “HIDE”……I don’t have to HIDE from dumb arsses that cannot even spell a simple four letter word. Haha”

            Captric – “It is “TOO” many trophies – but then I don’t criticize others spelling because that is a what cowards on the right who have no substantive statements to make.”

            Captric – “That is always the last desperate response of a person who has lost an argument based on facts. To try to marginalize their opponents legitimacy by pointing out spelling errors. Similar to the tactic that the right uses on the President – to try to de legitimize his successes by making up conspiracy theories devoid of facts and blaming lower level decisions not linked to him at all by trying to trace an invisible line directly to the president. It is just another reason why resonable and intelligent people with an education reject your world view. Have you looked at the polls lately? Both Obama and Hillary are WAY ahead of anything the right has to offer up as a candidate for the next national election. Article like this one and the people who respond only reinforces what most reasonable people already know. That the right is SO desperate that instead of creating a platform of positive changes to campaign, they have to try to bring down their opponents by deceit.”

            - More contradictions; Here you argue that criticizing an argument for containing spelling errors is a sign of a failed argument yet do the same yourself. By your own logic we can assume you lost your argument and were forced to fall back on the same ‘desperate’ device.

            Captric – “I am not paid —- I am an Ex Marine Special Operator with combat experinece and a former Navy SEAL and Army Green Beret. I fly AIRPLANES for a living and have a masters degree in Management and a technical experience in Statistics. That means I can pretty well separate the BS from the facts. Unlike you and your ilk who do not know the difference between fiction and fantasy!”

            - You claim quite a list of credentials. Yet here (http://captric.xanga.com/profile/) we find you claiming to have graduated with a masters in statistics from Villanova University. So which is it, masters in statistics or masters in management? Can’t keep your stories straight? Not that it matters much honestly. Look up ‘argument from authority’ specifically the fallacious ‘appeal to inappropriate authority.’ The argument that military experience, and/or a masters degree in statistics or management logically qualifies you to ‘spearate the BS from the facts’ is a non sequitur. Sounds like nothing more than sophistry to me.

            Captric – “It is certainly true that you know nothing about the military – which makes you the perfect mouth piece to comment on it. We let girls serve in Marine Recon or Special Forces or Navy SEALS. Oh look – another empty kitchen! Why don’t you go off and comment on something in glamour magazine little girl.”

            Captric – “You think? So what are you – a pansy ass sailor or something? Have you ever even seen combat? Last time I went on a rescue mission with the Marines Special Ops no President was making the tactical decision on whether or not we should go! Did you even graduate from high school?”

            - You frequently insult those whom you assume, without evidence, have no military experience yet also criticize those that do. I should point out that this behavior is not very respectful, nor very consistent.

            Anthony – “Isn’t that what “he” did when “he got Osama” …”

            Captric – “BS!!!! When were YOU in the military???? When he “got Osama” he only authorized the SEAL Team raid after weighing the pros and cons of the other two alternatives! Then he watched the raid from the IR camera of a drone. He didn’t tell them WHEN to shoot or Where to land!!!”

            - I can’t tell if you are being intentionally obtuse here or if you really didn’t understand the argument. Unless I misunderstand him, Anthony is suggesting that the Obama administration cannot take credit for the actions of subordinates in cases such as the death of Osama Bin Laden, yet deny blame for the actions of subordinates in situations like Benghazi. I believe that’s called trying to ‘have your cake and eat it too.’

            Captric – “No you are wrong. There are actually Presidential Scholars who study this stuff and it turns out that BUSH is the worst President in US History. He and Cheney are also the first Administration to be WANTED for war crimes in a european country. Why do you think Bush is in hiding – is never seen – never speaks in public- never on the news.”

            Captric – “What evidence do you have for the President of the US giving MANPADS to Al Queda? You really are warped!!! Where do you get your information? From Breitbart and Limbaugh. It is guy like you that will sink any hope the Republibots have of winning another election. So GO for it! Provide us right here with your evidence!!!! LOL”

            - Above you make a unsubstantiated statement but criticize others for the same. In point of fact, I have yet to see a single post where you provide evidence of ANY kind. You merely allude to the existence of evidence, which is hardly the same thing. Anyone can imply that evidence exists, whether it does or not.

            Captric – “The only QRF was the Marine Anti Terror Team in Tripoli! They responded as soon as they could from 650 miles away! That is a 13 hour drive across one of the biggest deserts in the world. I dont think you have a clue what you are talking about”

            Captric – “His commanders dispatched the Marine Anti Terrorism unit from Tripoli as soon as they could go! BUT – the unite 650 miles away! That is 650 across the biggest desert int he world and a 13 hour drive!”

            Captric – “Unbeleivable – you are a simple minded fool!! They DID fly!!! They had to pay a private pilot $30,000”

            - I have to admit, I really don’t understand why you keep mentioning the 13 hour drive across ‘one of the biggest deserts in the world.’ They didn’t drive, so this information is irrelevant. No wonder people thought you were implying that troops would’ve had to have been driven across the desert.

            Captric – “Do you even know the difference between Diplomats and the Military? Service members normally refers to the military. There was no US military involved at all until the next day when the Marines arrived from the Embassy in Tripoli!! There was NO “refusal” to help. Under what rock did you dig that up? The drug addicted nicotine addict fat draft dodging twrice divorced loudmouth Limbaugh rock?????? Do you even know where to go to get credible information in order to make pragmatic and correct decisions on ANYTHING?”

            - Just to point something out, on 10/29/2012 you tweeted this story – http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/egypt-embassy-marines-live-ammo in which “Cross, Alex Maj OLA, LA-41B” states “Contrary to open source reporting, there are no Marines currently stationed at the Embassy in Tripoli, or the Consulate in Benghazi.” It actually backs up part of your argument but you nullify this in your repeated assertions that troops arrived from the embassy in Tripoli. So either Major Alex Cross was lying about the marines from Tripoli, making his whole statement suspect, or you were wrong, making all of your claims of being educated on the subject suspect. So which is it?

            - http://www.revelife.com/770603780/the-christmas-story-and-you/ – You made a comment on that site stating that you “stopped believing in ghosts and started thinking in pragmatic and mathematically correct methods.” The verbiage in that comment is very similar to your comment on this page “I am drinking pragmatic truth and mathematically correct thinking devoid of partisanship.” I’d love to actually hear you explain the correlation between ‘mathematically correct thinking’ and the political ramifications of the September 11th attack on an US embassy in Benghazi. Sounds like some sort of canned rhetoric to me. Are you part of the Pythagorean cult?? (pardon the jest)

            - Captric, my assessment is that you are almost certainly a clichéd ‘angry atheist’ troll. They can be found in dark corners all across the net. Such as here –
            http://www.revelife.com/768790424/should-my-children-take-communion/

            Oh wait, that’s you again. You troll that site pretty regularly too, amongst others, frequently dragging out some of your favorite tired troll phrases such as ‘zombie Jesus’.
            http://www.revelife.com/769685907/christian-comedians-do-they-exist/

            http://thetheologianscafe.xanga.com/772293955/why-do-some-older-men-prefer-to-date-younger-women/ – Your comment here made me laugh. Personally I’d wager you are deluding yourself, but then I don’t know you.

            http://topsy.com/twitter/captric?nohidden=1&page=1 – More of your tweets, just for informational purposes.

          • ThatGuy

            Apologies, the site truncated the formatting a bit which made some of the links difficult to access. I’ll try re-posting part of the relevant sections below.

            Captric – “Another know it who actually knows nothing at all. You question me you little fag?”

            - So wait, you’re a homophobic, hate-mongering, Atheist? I thought it was the position of Atheists everywhere that religion was the cause of this sort of intolerance? What happened to your “Atheists more compassionate than believers” twitter post on 05/05/2012? Or your post (found in the comments here – http://www.revelife.com/771037476/idols-what-are-you-bowing-to/ ) that “people in the world who barely even give any thought to a God” are “the most delightful, happy and richly blessed people I have ever met.” I must say, you don’t strike me as terribly delightful, what with the hate-speech and all.

            Captric – “I am not paid —- I am an Ex Marine Special Operator with combat experinece and a former Navy SEAL and Army Green Beret. I fly AIRPLANES for a living and have a masters degree in Management and a technical experience in Statistics. That means I can pretty well separate the BS from the facts. Unlike you and your ilk who do not know the difference between fiction and fantasy!”

            - You claim quite a list of credentials. Yet here ( http://captric.xanga.com/profile/ ) we find you claiming to have graduated with a masters in statistics from Villanova University. So which is it, masters in statistics or masters in management? Can’t keep your stories straight? Not that it matters much honestly. Look up ‘argument from authority’ specifically the fallacious ‘appeal to inappropriate authority.’ The argument that military experience, and/or a masters degree in statistics or management logically qualifies you to ‘spearate the BS from the facts’ is a non sequitur. Sounds like nothing more than sophistry to me.

          • ThatGuy

            Apologies, the site truncated the formatting a bit which made some of the links difficult to access. I’ll try re-posting part of the relevant sections below.

            Captric – “Another know it who actually knows nothing at all. You question me you little fag?”

            - So wait, you’re a homophobic, hate-mongering, Atheist? I thought it was the position of Atheists everywhere that religion was the cause of this sort of intolerance? What happened to your “Atheists more compassionate than believers” twitter post on 05/05/2012? Or your post (found in the comments here – http://www.revelife.com/771037476/idols-what-are-you-bowing-to/ ) that “people in the world who barely even give any thought to a God” are “the most delightful, happy and richly blessed people I have ever met.” I must say, you don’t strike me as terribly delightful, what with the hate-speech and all.

            Captric – “I am not paid —- I am an Ex Marine Special Operator with combat experinece and a former Navy SEAL and Army Green Beret. I fly AIRPLANES for a living and have a masters degree in Management and a technical experience in Statistics. That means I can pretty well separate the BS from the facts. Unlike you and your ilk who do not know the difference between fiction and fantasy!”

            - You claim quite a list of credentials. Yet here ( http://captric.xanga.com/profile/ ) we find you claiming to have graduated with a masters in statistics from Villanova University. So which is it, masters in statistics or masters in management? Can’t keep your stories straight? Not that it matters much honestly. Look up ‘argument from authority’ specifically the fallacious ‘appeal to inappropriate authority.’ The argument that military experience, and/or a masters degree in statistics or management logically qualifies you to ‘spearate the BS from the facts’ is a non sequitur. Sounds like nothing more than sophistry to me.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Hey MORON! You question me? I have a MBA and Masters Level Statistics Certification from Villanova – boy!

          • ThatGuy
          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Come talk to me moron. I know who you are.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Come talk to me moron. I know who you are.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Come talk to me moron. I know who you are.

          • ThatGuy
          • ThatGuy
          • JThomas2121

            Prove it. Scan your diploma in and post it. You can even cross out your name, coward. Let’s see the proof! Oh, right. Kind of hard when you barely graduated high school.

          • JThomas2121

            Prove it. Scan your diploma in and post it. You can even cross out your name, coward. Let’s see the proof! Oh, right. Kind of hard when you barely graduated high school.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Haha — don’t you have anything better to do than disparage other people over the internet when you have lost an argument? You really are a pathetic individual. You want to prove me lying? Then do your homework you lazy three sentence moron. You would not stand a chance with me intellectually of physically. LOL So keep on dodging the fact that you and your ilk have three conspiracy theories now – TWO of which have made it to the comedy channel – that should tell you something about the efficacy of your thought processes.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Haha — don’t you have anything better to do than disparage other people over the internet when you have lost an argument? You really are a pathetic individual. You want to prove me lying? Then do your homework you lazy three sentence moron. You would not stand a chance with me intellectually of physically. LOL So keep on dodging the fact that you and your ilk have three conspiracy theories now – TWO of which have made it to the comedy channel – that should tell you something about the efficacy of your thought processes.

          • ThatGuy

            The only person I see dodging anything is you. Whenever anyone requests proof of your credentials, which is all you seem to hang your arguments on (see the argumentum ad auctoritatem fallacy), you get quite defensive. It’s almost like you are trying to hide something.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Actually I have a job – do you know what that is? And I work out of the country often. So when I am ready I will scan and post – no problem. Prepare to eat your words -

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Actually I have a job – do you know what that is? And I work out of the country often. So when I am ready I will scan and post – no problem. Prepare to eat your words -

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Actually I have a job – do you know what that is? And I work out of the country often. So when I am ready I will scan and post – no problem. Prepare to eat your words -

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Actually I have a job – do you know what that is? And I work out of the country often. So when I am ready I will scan and post – no problem. Prepare to eat your words -

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            In addition I have several residences…..what about you pal? I don’t CARRY my diplomas around with me in a suit case idiot! Give me your fax number – I will fax them to you if you are really THAT insecure with your own lifestyle.

          • JThomas2121

            You mean you don’t have one. We know. We already knew it. Cowards hide behind cryptic usernames and bloated claims and then we pressed for proof, be it a diploma because you spouted off about your degrees and how that makes you so much more qualified to know everything in the world, or so-called ‘facts’ and someone asks for a link or resource, you simply ignore it or just claim ‘look it up.’ No, that’s not how a cogent, compelling argument is made.

            Only fools who are ignorant make claims they can’t backup. Now we can all just ignore you, knowing your full of (it). Thanks for proving my point. Feels good to win.

          • JThomas2121

            You mean you don’t have one. We know. We already knew it. Cowards hide behind cryptic usernames and bloated claims and then we pressed for proof, be it a diploma because you spouted off about your degrees and how that makes you so much more qualified to know everything in the world, or so-called ‘facts’ and someone asks for a link or resource, you simply ignore it or just claim ‘look it up.’ No, that’s not how a cogent, compelling argument is made.

            Only fools who are ignorant make claims they can’t backup. Now we can all just ignore you, knowing your full of (it). Thanks for proving my point. Feels good to win.

          • JThomas2121

            You mean you don’t have one. We know. We already knew it. Cowards hide behind cryptic usernames and bloated claims and then we pressed for proof, be it a diploma because you spouted off about your degrees and how that makes you so much more qualified to know everything in the world, or so-called ‘facts’ and someone asks for a link or resource, you simply ignore it or just claim ‘look it up.’ No, that’s not how a cogent, compelling argument is made.

            Only fools who are ignorant make claims they can’t backup. Now we can all just ignore you, knowing your full of (it). Thanks for proving my point. Feels good to win.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            In addition I have several residences…..what about you pal? I don’t CARRY my diplomas around with me in a suit case idiot! Give me your fax number – I will fax them to you if you are really THAT insecure with your own lifestyle.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            In addition I have several residences…..what about you pal? I don’t CARRY my diplomas around with me in a suit case idiot! Give me your fax number – I will fax them to you if you are really THAT insecure with your own lifestyle.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            In addition I have several residences…..what about you pal? I don’t CARRY my diplomas around with me in a suit case idiot! Give me your fax number – I will fax them to you if you are really THAT insecure with your own lifestyle.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Scan YOUR documents A Hole! Let’s see if you really have the qualifications to even be commenting on this subject matter!

          • JThomas2121

            Ha! You proved my point, and everyone else here who has a brain. You’re the one spouting off about degree-this and degree-that, but you don’t have one, do you? Just another troll who wants to pretend he’s smarter or better than he really is.

            As for ‘qualifications’ to be commenting on this subject matter, let’s see … I am well read, have an IQ over 150, a member of MENSA, and I can actually put together cogent, coherent thoughts without name calling, vitriolic rambling.

            So, now that you know you’re full of (it) and yourself, there’s no more need for any of us to pay attention to you. Good riddance to your ignorant, troglodyte, cantankerous posts. See ya!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            PROVE you are a member of Mensa and post your certificate. Otherwise you are just another liar trying to impress someone with false credentials. I knew a member of Mensa – he went to prison for selling drugs – having a high IQ means you are capable of seeing abstraction where others may not – it does not say HOW you will use it.

            The fact is – you are the typical republithug – when you cannot win the argument you resort to defaming your opponent. You learned that from Rush Limpwrist and Shawn girly man Hannity and Breitbart and that moron with the bow tie on Fox Tucker Carlson who defamed an ex Marine member of the Atomic Energy Commission who kept saying publicly and loudly that Sadam Hussein did NOT have any weapons of mass distraction. Carlson tried to prove he was a pedophile and child molester.

            If you want the FACTS – and you are not interested in the facts -try here for starters!!:

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack

            And here:

            http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/04/world/africa/benghazi-attack-raises-doubts-about-us-abilities-in-region.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

            And here:

            http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/libya-consulate-embassy-attacks-obama-romney

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            PROVE you are a member of Mensa and post your certificate. Otherwise you are just another liar trying to impress someone with false credentials. I knew a member of Mensa – he went to prison for selling drugs – having a high IQ means you are capable of seeing abstraction where others may not – it does not say HOW you will use it.

            The fact is – you are the typical republithug – when you cannot win the argument you resort to defaming your opponent. You learned that from Rush Limpwrist and Shawn girly man Hannity and Breitbart and that moron with the bow tie on Fox Tucker Carlson who defamed an ex Marine member of the Atomic Energy Commission who kept saying publicly and loudly that Sadam Hussein did NOT have any weapons of mass distraction. Carlson tried to prove he was a pedophile and child molester.

            If you want the FACTS – and you are not interested in the facts -try here for starters!!:

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack

            And here:

            http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/04/world/africa/benghazi-attack-raises-doubts-about-us-abilities-in-region.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

            And here:

            http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/libya-consulate-embassy-attacks-obama-romney

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            PROVE you are a member of Mensa and post your certificate. Otherwise you are just another liar trying to impress someone with false credentials. I knew a member of Mensa – he went to prison for selling drugs – having a high IQ means you are capable of seeing abstraction where others may not – it does not say HOW you will use it.

            The fact is – you are the typical republithug – when you cannot win the argument you resort to defaming your opponent. You learned that from Rush Limpwrist and Shawn girly man Hannity and Breitbart and that moron with the bow tie on Fox Tucker Carlson who defamed an ex Marine member of the Atomic Energy Commission who kept saying publicly and loudly that Sadam Hussein did NOT have any weapons of mass distraction. Carlson tried to prove he was a pedophile and child molester.

            If you want the FACTS – and you are not interested in the facts -try here for starters!!:

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack

            And here:

            http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/04/world/africa/benghazi-attack-raises-doubts-about-us-abilities-in-region.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

            And here:

            http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/libya-consulate-embassy-attacks-obama-romney

          • LoupGarouTFTs

            JThomas, we both know that ad hominem attacks are the weaponry of a losing argument and a weak mind. ;)

          • LoupGarouTFTs

            JThomas, we both know that ad hominem attacks are the weaponry of a losing argument and a weak mind. ;)

          • JThomas2121

            Ha! You proved my point, and everyone else here who has a brain. You’re the one spouting off about degree-this and degree-that, but you don’t have one, do you? Just another troll who wants to pretend he’s smarter or better than he really is.

            As for ‘qualifications’ to be commenting on this subject matter, let’s see … I am well read, have an IQ over 150, a member of MENSA, and I can actually put together cogent, coherent thoughts without name calling, vitriolic rambling.

            So, now that you know you’re full of (it) and yourself, there’s no more need for any of us to pay attention to you. Good riddance to your ignorant, troglodyte, cantankerous posts. See ya!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Scan YOUR documents A Hole! Let’s see if you really have the qualifications to even be commenting on this subject matter!

          • ThatGuy

            The only person I see dodging anything is you. Whenever anyone requests proof of your credentials, which is all you seem to hang your arguments on (see the argumentum ad auctoritatem fallacy), you get quite defensive. It’s almost like you are trying to hide something.

          • ThatGuy

            The only person I see dodging anything is you. Whenever anyone requests proof of your credentials, which is all you seem to hang your arguments on (see the argumentum ad auctoritatem fallacy), you get quite defensive. It’s almost like you are trying to hide something.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Haha — don’t you have anything better to do than disparage other people over the internet when you have lost an argument? You really are a pathetic individual. You want to prove me lying? Then do your homework you lazy three sentence moron. You would not stand a chance with me intellectually of physically. LOL So keep on dodging the fact that you and your ilk have three conspiracy theories now – TWO of which have made it to the comedy channel – that should tell you something about the efficacy of your thought processes.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You want my birth certificate too moron????

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You want my birth certificate too moron????

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You want my birth certificate too moron????

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You want my birth certificate too moron????

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You scan your diploma and send it to me — and then APOLOGIZE to me when I scan mine —- otherwise you know where you can shove your ridiculous suggestion and in addition – go forth and multiply with yourself!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You scan your diploma and send it to me — and then APOLOGIZE to me when I scan mine —- otherwise you know where you can shove your ridiculous suggestion and in addition – go forth and multiply with yourself!

          • LoupGarouTFTs

            If you had completed all of the education you say you had, you would know that graduate students do not earn “diplomas.”

          • LoupGarouTFTs

            If you had completed all of the education you say you had, you would know that graduate students do not earn “diplomas.”

          • LoupGarouTFTs

            If you had completed all of the education you say you had, you would know that graduate students do not earn “diplomas.”

          • LoupGarouTFTs

            Are we sure that captric has yet graduated high school?

          • itaintover

            Nope but he can play a mean game of WOW.

          • itaintover

            Nope but he can play a mean game of WOW.

          • itaintover

            Nope but he can play a mean game of WOW.

          • LoupGarouTFTs

            Are we sure that captric has yet graduated high school?

          • captric

            There you go you Fvcking moron illiterate right wing wacko!!

          • captric

            There you go you Fvcking moron illiterate right wing wacko!!

          • captric

            There you go you Fvcking moron illiterate right wing wacko!!

          • JThomas2121

            Prove it. Scan your diploma in and post it. You can even cross out your name, coward. Let’s see the proof! Oh, right. Kind of hard when you barely graduated high school.

          • JThomas2121

            Prove it. Scan your diploma in and post it. You can even cross out your name, coward. Let’s see the proof! Oh, right. Kind of hard when you barely graduated high school.

          • LoupGarouTFTs

            Sure you do captric. And I have a Doctorate in Divinity AND a PhD as a nurse practitioner which I studied for while I was swimming up the Congo looking for Doogie Howser while serving with Doctors without Borders. I’m also an AKC all-breed judge qualified for best in show and a leading race horse trainer, which I did in my spare time after taking a vow of silence in a Buddhist monastery. Oh and did I mention that I’m a spy attached to the Sosarian embassy peeking into the secret papers of Minax herself?

            *rolls eyes*

          • LoupGarouTFTs

            Sure you do captric. And I have a Doctorate in Divinity AND a PhD as a nurse practitioner which I studied for while I was swimming up the Congo looking for Doogie Howser while serving with Doctors without Borders. I’m also an AKC all-breed judge qualified for best in show and a leading race horse trainer, which I did in my spare time after taking a vow of silence in a Buddhist monastery. Oh and did I mention that I’m a spy attached to the Sosarian embassy peeking into the secret papers of Minax herself?

            *rolls eyes*

          • LoupGarouTFTs

            Sure you do captric. And I have a Doctorate in Divinity AND a PhD as a nurse practitioner which I studied for while I was swimming up the Congo looking for Doogie Howser while serving with Doctors without Borders. I’m also an AKC all-breed judge qualified for best in show and a leading race horse trainer, which I did in my spare time after taking a vow of silence in a Buddhist monastery. Oh and did I mention that I’m a spy attached to the Sosarian embassy peeking into the secret papers of Minax herself?

            *rolls eyes*

          • itaintover

            So you were Spec Ops, a back up seal, and Ranger as well as have a MBA and Master but can’t spell ridiculous? and you call people “boy” a lot. Hmmmm

          • itaintover

            So you were Spec Ops, a back up seal, and Ranger as well as have a MBA and Master but can’t spell ridiculous? and you call people “boy” a lot. Hmmmm

          • itaintover

            So you were Spec Ops, a back up seal, and Ranger as well as have a MBA and Master but can’t spell ridiculous? and you call people “boy” a lot. Hmmmm

          • dynamitewoman

            LOL If you are that astute and profound surely you can come up with a better designation than the commonly used “moron”. Captric, you know you are full of that brown stuff oozing from your fat ass cheeks. LMAO You may have a degree in “TROLL”, but that is not acceptable by most sensible people that do not have the letters ” U.I” following their name.
            Useful Idiot…LOL

          • dynamitewoman

            LOL If you are that astute and profound surely you can come up with a better designation than the commonly used “moron”. Captric, you know you are full of that brown stuff oozing from your fat ass cheeks. LMAO You may have a degree in “TROLL”, but that is not acceptable by most sensible people that do not have the letters ” U.I” following their name.
            Useful Idiot…LOL

          • dynamitewoman

            LOL If you are that astute and profound surely you can come up with a better designation than the commonly used “moron”. Captric, you know you are full of that brown stuff oozing from your fat ass cheeks. LMAO You may have a degree in “TROLL”, but that is not acceptable by most sensible people that do not have the letters ” U.I” following their name.
            Useful Idiot…LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Hey MORON! You question me? I have a MBA and Masters Level Statistics Certification from Villanova – boy!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Hey MORON! You question me? I have a MBA and Masters Level Statistics Certification from Villanova – boy!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Hey MORON! You question me? I have a MBA and Masters Level Statistics Certification from Villanova – boy!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You argue because you lack so little real world experience that it is hard for you to relate to real world experience. I bet all you have done in your life is candy a** your way through school on your mommy and Daddies dime and sit on your Fat Arse for a living. I know the type – big on words – small on experience.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You argue because you lack so little real world experience that it is hard for you to relate to real world experience. I bet all you have done in your life is candy a** your way through school on your mommy and Daddies dime and sit on your Fat Arse for a living. I know the type – big on words – small on experience.

          • ThatGuy

            Argumentum ad hominem, another fallacious rhetorical device. Pathetic.

            If I hadn’t have found plenty of evidence to suggest that you are in fact ancient I would think you were 12.

          • ThatGuy

            Argumentum ad hominem, another fallacious rhetorical device. Pathetic.

            If I hadn’t have found plenty of evidence to suggest that you are in fact ancient I would think you were 12.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Ha ha – what are you some sort of half assed investigator wannabe? So you REALLY have no intelligent discourse for the arguments here – you just try to impugn integrity of someone who has proven you wrong. And proven you wrong I have. There IS no conspiracy. The military could NOT respond in Benghazi in time and Americans – or should I refine that with conservative Americans have unrealistic expectations about what the military and intelligence agencies can and cannot do. As a former special ops guy – I can tell you that SEAL’s are NOT bullet proof and the CIA does NOT know everything and one more thing regarding our opponents in the middle east – they are smart. VERY smart and they have home field advantage.

          • ThatGuy

            - You’re just like a wind-up toy, I wind you up and watch you go. I won’t address most of your commentary, because frankly, it was pointless puffery and bluster. “I’m Captric, I think I’m awesome, please pay attention to me!!!!” Sooooooo needy. *eye roll*
            - I will deign to address a FEW items from your inane nattering.

            Captric – “Being a conservative you can only impugn the reputation or qualifications of those making a counter argument”

            a) I never said I’m a ‘conservative’, because I’m not. That’s an assumption you’ve made while frothing at the mouth over the ‘big bad conservatives’ who are ‘out to get you.’
            b) Impugn your reputation? Have I uttered other than truth regarding statements you have made here and on other forums? Also, this statement is quite hypocritical considering you call everyone who disagrees with you ‘fag.’ A point I made earlier which you never rebutted. I will consider your failure tacit acceptance of your hypocrisy. In fact, you only actually addressed one point from my original post. I’m beginning to think it’s because you’re incapable of refuting my claims.
            c) Counter argument to what? My points were as follows
            1) I demonstrated that you’re a homophobic, hate-mongering, Atheist. Generally Atheists claim to be tolerant; I offered evidence showing that you had in fact claimed such. This makes you a hypocrite.
            2) As above, I claimed that you’re a hypocrite for criticizing people for ‘throwing insults’ when you do the same to no end. I offered evidence to back this claim.
            3) I claimed you were a hypocrite for complaining about the spelling of others on two separate occasions and then throwing a little fit when someone pointed out your spelling errors.
            4) I questioned an inconsistency between your claims on this site as compared to another site. This was the only point you actually addressed.
            5) I argued that you contradict yourself when you complain that people with no military experience can’t understand the issues (also a fallacious ‘appeal to inappropriate authority’ argument) yet turn around and insult anyone with military experience who contradicts you. Also, this lack of respect for your fellow servicemen is what makes ME question your claims to military service.
            6) I asserted that you had completely missed the point of an argument comparing this administration’s acceptance of credit for the actions of subordinates in cases such as the death of Osama Bin Laden and the denial of blame for the actions of subordinates in situations like Benghazi.
            7) I pointed out that you frequently accuse others of failing an evidentiary standard but never offer sources or evidence to back your own claims.
            8) I argued the idiocy of your repeated earlier references to the 13 hour drive across ‘one of the biggest deserts in the world’ when you yourself later claim they flew.
            9) I pointed out that you referenced ‘marines from Tripoli’ when you earlier tweeted a story from MotherJones ( http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/egypt-embassy-marines-live-ammo ) where a Major Alex Cross (OLA) stated “Contrary to open source reporting, there are no Marines currently stationed at the Embassy in Tripoli, or the Consulate in Benghazi.” This calls into question how ‘educated’ on the issue you really are.
            10) I presented evidence to support the conclusion that you are nothing more than an ‘angry atheist’ troll, on a number of sites. The previous 9 arguments are actually offered primarily as evidence of this final argument.

            Captric – “The trouble with idiots like you is that you do not have anything to say that disproves the salient point in the entire argument or the topic of this discussion.”

            - I never said you were wrong about whether or not more could have been done in Benghazi. You drew conclusions regarding my position in the absence of evidence, as I’ve observed is your modus operandi. What happened to ‘mathematically correct’ thinking? Personally I think we’ll have to wait for events to unfold before that determination can be rightly made.
            - I do believe that Clinton and Obama both attempted to obfuscate the true nature of these attacks to ‘run up the clock’ so to speak. The entire ‘anti-muslim’ video shtick was an obvious farce. Obama, Clinton, and Carney all made references to it in speeches. Reuters reported ( http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/us-usa-benghazi-emails-idUSBRE89N02C20121024 ) that the White House, Pentagon and other government agencies learned just two hours into the Benghazi attack that Ansar al-Sharia, an Islamic militant group, had “claimed credit” for it. The wire service report was based on three emails from the State Department’s Operations Center. Libya President Mohamed Magariaf insisted on Sept. 16 — five days after the attack — that it was a planned terrorist attack, but administration officials continued for days later to say there was no evidence of a planned attack. Clearly they were being forthright and honest with the American people… sure. Here’s a source where you can read more – http://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/benghazi-timeline/

            Captric – “I could give a squat if you “served in that region” That does not make an authority on ANYTHING”

            - First of all, you’re confusing me with someone else. Take your meds grampa, and stick with me here. Assuming that you were speaking to who you thought you were, let’s follow your ‘mathematically correct’ thinking. So, you opine that your (alleged) experience makes you an expert qualified to ‘separate the BS’ but someone who was actually deployed in the area would not be. That makes total sense because you, from a seat by your new pool, know more than a primary source. BRILLIANT!

            Captric – “You THINK you know something about special ops…”

            - Let me stop you right there. I never made that claim, again you are thinking of someone else. Use that ‘mathematically correct thinking’ to comb through this discussion looking at the names next to each comment.

            Captric – “That is very republican of you. This is why no one takes people like you seriously. The biggest mistake is that republibots make is thinking that everyone hates Obama as much as you do.”

            - Sorry, still not a Republican. I voted Obama in 2008, although I think he’s been an atrocious president and did not vote for him a second time. Fool me once shame on you, etc… etc…

            Captric – “You not listen to learn – you listen to respond.”

            - I should get an award for successfully parsing this sentence. The interesting thing is, you keep confusing me with other people, didn’t really read my original post, and then accuse me of not listening. Do you even read what you type?

            Captric – “An hypothesis is proven right by proving the null hypothesis is wrong.”

            - Congratulations, you have a basic understanding of how control groups are used to establish causal relationships in the analysis of scientific data. Ronald Fisher would be so proud. Do you have a point here?

          • King Eagle

            Well said, “That Guy”. Kudos at your self-control.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            All you can do is cut and paste from the safety of your desk top computer. Just like the republithug you are you take quotes out of context to fabricate your wacko conspiracy theory. I think YOU have never been in the military. I think you know NOTHING about aircraft and where they were on this night – how long it would have taken them to get there – and how they would have been refueled and how little difference it would have made anyways!!! What a joke you are. Shut up and go back to the kitchen boy.

          • ThatGuy

            What conspiracy theory? Go on, find and quote an example where I put forth a conspiracy theory. Honestly, I think you just randomly post canned responses that all look the same.

          • ThatGuy

            What conspiracy theory? Go on, find and quote an example where I put forth a conspiracy theory. Honestly, I think you just randomly post canned responses that all look the same.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            And all you can do weak prick is to cut and post my responses to people who DO believe in this conspiracy theory — after-all — this IS the title and subject of the article!!!!!!!! Or dod you fail to read the context under which the responses are made. At any rate you fit in pretty well here. A right wing nut job with nothing of import to say – who can take out of context my responses to other people rants and name calling and post it as if I started this debauchery. You have not done your homework so why don’t you just go forth and fornicate with yourself and leave the decision making to the real men.

          • ThatGuy

            The OP for this thread was talking about how the administration attempted to mislead the public regarding the cause of the attack. The ‘anti-muslim’ video was a farce. See for yourself.

            http://factcheck.org/2013/05/benghazi-attack-revisited/

          • ThatGuy

            The OP for this thread was talking about how the administration attempted to mislead the public regarding the cause of the attack. The ‘anti-muslim’ video was a farce. See for yourself.

            http://factcheck.org/2013/05/benghazi-attack-revisited/

          • ThatGuy

            The OP for this thread was talking about how the administration attempted to mislead the public regarding the cause of the attack. The ‘anti-muslim’ video was a farce. See for yourself.

            http://factcheck.org/2013/05/benghazi-attack-revisited/

          • ThatGuy

            The OP for this thread was talking about how the administration attempted to mislead the public regarding the cause of the attack. The ‘anti-muslim’ video was a farce. See for yourself.

            http://factcheck.org/2013/05/benghazi-attack-revisited/

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            And all you can do weak prick is to cut and post my responses to people who DO believe in this conspiracy theory — after-all — this IS the title and subject of the article!!!!!!!! Or dod you fail to read the context under which the responses are made. At any rate you fit in pretty well here. A right wing nut job with nothing of import to say – who can take out of context my responses to other people rants and name calling and post it as if I started this debauchery. You have not done your homework so why don’t you just go forth and fornicate with yourself and leave the decision making to the real men.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            And all you can do weak prick is to cut and post my responses to people who DO believe in this conspiracy theory — after-all — this IS the title and subject of the article!!!!!!!! Or dod you fail to read the context under which the responses are made. At any rate you fit in pretty well here. A right wing nut job with nothing of import to say – who can take out of context my responses to other people rants and name calling and post it as if I started this debauchery. You have not done your homework so why don’t you just go forth and fornicate with yourself and leave the decision making to the real men.

          • ThatGuy

            What conspiracy theory? Go on, find and quote an example where I put forth a conspiracy theory. Honestly, I think you just randomly post canned responses that all look the same.

          • ThatGuy

            What conspiracy theory? Go on, find and quote an example where I put forth a conspiracy theory. Honestly, I think you just randomly post canned responses that all look the same.

          • ThatGuy

            - You’re just like a wind-up toy, I wind you up and watch you go. I won’t address most of your commentary, because frankly, it was pointless puffery and bluster. “I’m Captric, I think I’m awesome, please pay attention to me!!!!” Sooooooo needy. *eye roll*
            - I will deign to address a FEW items from your inane nattering.

            Captric – “Being a conservative you can only impugn the reputation or qualifications of those making a counter argument”

            a) I never said I’m a ‘conservative’, because I’m not. That’s an assumption you’ve made while frothing at the mouth over the ‘big bad conservatives’ who are ‘out to get you.’
            b) Impugn your reputation? Have I uttered other than truth regarding statements you have made here and on other forums? Also, this statement is quite hypocritical considering you call everyone who disagrees with you ‘fag.’ A point I made earlier which you never rebutted. I will consider your failure tacit acceptance of your hypocrisy. In fact, you only actually addressed one point from my original post. I’m beginning to think it’s because you’re incapable of refuting my claims.
            c) Counter argument to what? My points were as follows
            1) I demonstrated that you’re a homophobic, hate-mongering, Atheist. Generally Atheists claim to be tolerant; I offered evidence showing that you had in fact claimed such. This makes you a hypocrite.
            2) As above, I claimed that you’re a hypocrite for criticizing people for ‘throwing insults’ when you do the same to no end. I offered evidence to back this claim.
            3) I claimed you were a hypocrite for complaining about the spelling of others on two separate occasions and then throwing a little fit when someone pointed out your spelling errors.
            4) I questioned an inconsistency between your claims on this site as compared to another site. This was the only point you actually addressed.
            5) I argued that you contradict yourself when you complain that people with no military experience can’t understand the issues (also a fallacious ‘appeal to inappropriate authority’ argument) yet turn around and insult anyone with military experience who contradicts you. Also, this lack of respect for your fellow servicemen is what makes ME question your claims to military service.
            6) I asserted that you had completely missed the point of an argument comparing this administration’s acceptance of credit for the actions of subordinates in cases such as the death of Osama Bin Laden and the denial of blame for the actions of subordinates in situations like Benghazi.
            7) I pointed out that you frequently accuse others of failing an evidentiary standard but never offer sources or evidence to back your own claims.
            8) I argued the idiocy of your repeated earlier references to the 13 hour drive across ‘one of the biggest deserts in the world’ when you yourself later claim they flew.
            9) I pointed out that you referenced ‘marines from Tripoli’ when you earlier tweeted a story from MotherJones ( http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/egypt-embassy-marines-live-ammo ) where a Major Alex Cross (OLA) stated “Contrary to open source reporting, there are no Marines currently stationed at the Embassy in Tripoli, or the Consulate in Benghazi.” This calls into question how ‘educated’ on the issue you really are.
            10) I presented evidence to support the conclusion that you are nothing more than an ‘angry atheist’ troll, on a number of sites. The previous 9 arguments are actually offered primarily as evidence of this final argument.

            Captric – “The trouble with idiots like you is that you do not have anything to say that disproves the salient point in the entire argument or the topic of this discussion.”

            - I never said you were wrong about whether or not more could have been done in Benghazi. You drew conclusions regarding my position in the absence of evidence, as I’ve observed is your modus operandi. What happened to ‘mathematically correct’ thinking? Personally I think we’ll have to wait for events to unfold before that determination can be rightly made.
            - I do believe that Clinton and Obama both attempted to obfuscate the true nature of these attacks to ‘run up the clock’ so to speak. The entire ‘anti-muslim’ video shtick was an obvious farce. Obama, Clinton, and Carney all made references to it in speeches. Reuters reported ( http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/us-usa-benghazi-emails-idUSBRE89N02C20121024 ) that the White House, Pentagon and other government agencies learned just two hours into the Benghazi attack that Ansar al-Sharia, an Islamic militant group, had “claimed credit” for it. The wire service report was based on three emails from the State Department’s Operations Center. Libya President Mohamed Magariaf insisted on Sept. 16 — five days after the attack — that it was a planned terrorist attack, but administration officials continued for days later to say there was no evidence of a planned attack. Clearly they were being forthright and honest with the American people… sure. Here’s a source where you can read more – http://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/benghazi-timeline/

            Captric – “I could give a squat if you “served in that region” That does not make an authority on ANYTHING”

            - First of all, you’re confusing me with someone else. Take your meds grampa, and stick with me here. Assuming that you were speaking to who you thought you were, let’s follow your ‘mathematically correct’ thinking. So, you opine that your (alleged) experience makes you an expert qualified to ‘separate the BS’ but someone who was actually deployed in the area would not be. That makes total sense because you, from a seat by your new pool, know more than a primary source. BRILLIANT!

            Captric – “You THINK you know something about special ops…”

            - Let me stop you right there. I never made that claim, again you are thinking of someone else. Use that ‘mathematically correct thinking’ to comb through this discussion looking at the names next to each comment.

            Captric – “That is very republican of you. This is why no one takes people like you seriously. The biggest mistake is that republibots make is thinking that everyone hates Obama as much as you do.”

            - Sorry, still not a Republican. I voted Obama in 2008, although I think he’s been an atrocious president and did not vote for him a second time. Fool me once shame on you, etc… etc…

            Captric – “You not listen to learn – you listen to respond.”

            - I should get an award for successfully parsing this sentence. The interesting thing is, you keep confusing me with other people, didn’t really read my original post, and then accuse me of not listening. Do you even read what you type?

            Captric – “An hypothesis is proven right by proving the null hypothesis is wrong.”

            - Congratulations, you have a basic understanding of how control groups are used to establish causal relationships in the analysis of scientific data. Ronald Fisher would be so proud. Do you have a point here?

          • ThatGuy

            - You’re just like a wind-up toy, I wind you up and watch you go. I won’t address most of your commentary, because frankly, it was pointless puffery and bluster. “I’m Captric, I think I’m awesome, please pay attention to me!!!!” Sooooooo needy. *eye roll*
            - I will deign to address a FEW items from your inane nattering.

            Captric – “Being a conservative you can only impugn the reputation or qualifications of those making a counter argument”

            a) I never said I’m a ‘conservative’, because I’m not. That’s an assumption you’ve made while frothing at the mouth over the ‘big bad conservatives’ who are ‘out to get you.’
            b) Impugn your reputation? Have I uttered other than truth regarding statements you have made here and on other forums? Also, this statement is quite hypocritical considering you call everyone who disagrees with you ‘fag.’ A point I made earlier which you never rebutted. I will consider your failure tacit acceptance of your hypocrisy. In fact, you only actually addressed one point from my original post. I’m beginning to think it’s because you’re incapable of refuting my claims.
            c) Counter argument to what? My points were as follows
            1) I demonstrated that you’re a homophobic, hate-mongering, Atheist. Generally Atheists claim to be tolerant; I offered evidence showing that you had in fact claimed such. This makes you a hypocrite.
            2) As above, I claimed that you’re a hypocrite for criticizing people for ‘throwing insults’ when you do the same to no end. I offered evidence to back this claim.
            3) I claimed you were a hypocrite for complaining about the spelling of others on two separate occasions and then throwing a little fit when someone pointed out your spelling errors.
            4) I questioned an inconsistency between your claims on this site as compared to another site. This was the only point you actually addressed.
            5) I argued that you contradict yourself when you complain that people with no military experience can’t understand the issues (also a fallacious ‘appeal to inappropriate authority’ argument) yet turn around and insult anyone with military experience who contradicts you. Also, this lack of respect for your fellow servicemen is what makes ME question your claims to military service.
            6) I asserted that you had completely missed the point of an argument comparing this administration’s acceptance of credit for the actions of subordinates in cases such as the death of Osama Bin Laden and the denial of blame for the actions of subordinates in situations like Benghazi.
            7) I pointed out that you frequently accuse others of failing an evidentiary standard but never offer sources or evidence to back your own claims.
            8) I argued the idiocy of your repeated earlier references to the 13 hour drive across ‘one of the biggest deserts in the world’ when you yourself later claim they flew.
            9) I pointed out that you referenced ‘marines from Tripoli’ when you earlier tweeted a story from MotherJones ( http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/egypt-embassy-marines-live-ammo ) where a Major Alex Cross (OLA) stated “Contrary to open source reporting, there are no Marines currently stationed at the Embassy in Tripoli, or the Consulate in Benghazi.” This calls into question how ‘educated’ on the issue you really are.
            10) I presented evidence to support the conclusion that you are nothing more than an ‘angry atheist’ troll, on a number of sites. The previous 9 arguments are actually offered primarily as evidence of this final argument.

            Captric – “The trouble with idiots like you is that you do not have anything to say that disproves the salient point in the entire argument or the topic of this discussion.”

            - I never said you were wrong about whether or not more could have been done in Benghazi. You drew conclusions regarding my position in the absence of evidence, as I’ve observed is your modus operandi. What happened to ‘mathematically correct’ thinking? Personally I think we’ll have to wait for events to unfold before that determination can be rightly made.
            - I do believe that Clinton and Obama both attempted to obfuscate the true nature of these attacks to ‘run up the clock’ so to speak. The entire ‘anti-muslim’ video shtick was an obvious farce. Obama, Clinton, and Carney all made references to it in speeches. Reuters reported ( http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/us-usa-benghazi-emails-idUSBRE89N02C20121024 ) that the White House, Pentagon and other government agencies learned just two hours into the Benghazi attack that Ansar al-Sharia, an Islamic militant group, had “claimed credit” for it. The wire service report was based on three emails from the State Department’s Operations Center. Libya President Mohamed Magariaf insisted on Sept. 16 — five days after the attack — that it was a planned terrorist attack, but administration officials continued for days later to say there was no evidence of a planned attack. Clearly they were being forthright and honest with the American people… sure. Here’s a source where you can read more – http://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/benghazi-timeline/

            Captric – “I could give a squat if you “served in that region” That does not make an authority on ANYTHING”

            - First of all, you’re confusing me with someone else. Take your meds grampa, and stick with me here. Assuming that you were speaking to who you thought you were, let’s follow your ‘mathematically correct’ thinking. So, you opine that your (alleged) experience makes you an expert qualified to ‘separate the BS’ but someone who was actually deployed in the area would not be. That makes total sense because you, from a seat by your new pool, know more than a primary source. BRILLIANT!

            Captric – “You THINK you know something about special ops…”

            - Let me stop you right there. I never made that claim, again you are thinking of someone else. Use that ‘mathematically correct thinking’ to comb through this discussion looking at the names next to each comment.

            Captric – “That is very republican of you. This is why no one takes people like you seriously. The biggest mistake is that republibots make is thinking that everyone hates Obama as much as you do.”

            - Sorry, still not a Republican. I voted Obama in 2008, although I think he’s been an atrocious president and did not vote for him a second time. Fool me once shame on you, etc… etc…

            Captric – “You not listen to learn – you listen to respond.”

            - I should get an award for successfully parsing this sentence. The interesting thing is, you keep confusing me with other people, didn’t really read my original post, and then accuse me of not listening. Do you even read what you type?

            Captric – “An hypothesis is proven right by proving the null hypothesis is wrong.”

            - Congratulations, you have a basic understanding of how control groups are used to establish causal relationships in the analysis of scientific data. Ronald Fisher would be so proud. Do you have a point here?

          • ThatGuy

            - You’re just like a wind-up toy, I wind you up and watch you go. I won’t address most of your commentary, because frankly, it was pointless puffery and bluster. “I’m Captric, I think I’m awesome, please pay attention to me!!!!” Sooooooo needy. *eye roll*
            - I will deign to address a FEW items from your inane nattering.

            Captric – “Being a conservative you can only impugn the reputation or qualifications of those making a counter argument”

            a) I never said I’m a ‘conservative’, because I’m not. That’s an assumption you’ve made while frothing at the mouth over the ‘big bad conservatives’ who are ‘out to get you.’
            b) Impugn your reputation? Have I uttered other than truth regarding statements you have made here and on other forums? Also, this statement is quite hypocritical considering you call everyone who disagrees with you ‘fag.’ A point I made earlier which you never rebutted. I will consider your failure tacit acceptance of your hypocrisy. In fact, you only actually addressed one point from my original post. I’m beginning to think it’s because you’re incapable of refuting my claims.
            c) Counter argument to what? My points were as follows
            1) I demonstrated that you’re a homophobic, hate-mongering, Atheist. Generally Atheists claim to be tolerant; I offered evidence showing that you had in fact claimed such. This makes you a hypocrite.
            2) As above, I claimed that you’re a hypocrite for criticizing people for ‘throwing insults’ when you do the same to no end. I offered evidence to back this claim.
            3) I claimed you were a hypocrite for complaining about the spelling of others on two separate occasions and then throwing a little fit when someone pointed out your spelling errors.
            4) I questioned an inconsistency between your claims on this site as compared to another site. This was the only point you actually addressed.
            5) I argued that you contradict yourself when you complain that people with no military experience can’t understand the issues (also a fallacious ‘appeal to inappropriate authority’ argument) yet turn around and insult anyone with military experience who contradicts you. Also, this lack of respect for your fellow servicemen is what makes ME question your claims to military service.
            6) I asserted that you had completely missed the point of an argument comparing this administration’s acceptance of credit for the actions of subordinates in cases such as the death of Osama Bin Laden and the denial of blame for the actions of subordinates in situations like Benghazi.
            7) I pointed out that you frequently accuse others of failing an evidentiary standard but never offer sources or evidence to back your own claims.
            8) I argued the idiocy of your repeated earlier references to the 13 hour drive across ‘one of the biggest deserts in the world’ when you yourself later claim they flew.
            9) I pointed out that you referenced ‘marines from Tripoli’ when you earlier tweeted a story from MotherJones ( http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/egypt-embassy-marines-live-ammo ) where a Major Alex Cross (OLA) stated “Contrary to open source reporting, there are no Marines currently stationed at the Embassy in Tripoli, or the Consulate in Benghazi.” This calls into question how ‘educated’ on the issue you really are.
            10) I presented evidence to support the conclusion that you are nothing more than an ‘angry atheist’ troll, on a number of sites. The previous 9 arguments are actually offered primarily as evidence of this final argument.

            Captric – “The trouble with idiots like you is that you do not have anything to say that disproves the salient point in the entire argument or the topic of this discussion.”

            - I never said you were wrong about whether or not more could have been done in Benghazi. You drew conclusions regarding my position in the absence of evidence, as I’ve observed is your modus operandi. What happened to ‘mathematically correct’ thinking? Personally I think we’ll have to wait for events to unfold before that determination can be rightly made.
            - I do believe that Clinton and Obama both attempted to obfuscate the true nature of these attacks to ‘run up the clock’ so to speak. The entire ‘anti-muslim’ video shtick was an obvious farce. Obama, Clinton, and Carney all made references to it in speeches. Reuters reported ( http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/us-usa-benghazi-emails-idUSBRE89N02C20121024 ) that the White House, Pentagon and other government agencies learned just two hours into the Benghazi attack that Ansar al-Sharia, an Islamic militant group, had “claimed credit” for it. The wire service report was based on three emails from the State Department’s Operations Center. Libya President Mohamed Magariaf insisted on Sept. 16 — five days after the attack — that it was a planned terrorist attack, but administration officials continued for days later to say there was no evidence of a planned attack. Clearly they were being forthright and honest with the American people… sure. Here’s a source where you can read more – http://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/benghazi-timeline/

            Captric – “I could give a squat if you “served in that region” That does not make an authority on ANYTHING”

            - First of all, you’re confusing me with someone else. Take your meds grampa, and stick with me here. Assuming that you were speaking to who you thought you were, let’s follow your ‘mathematically correct’ thinking. So, you opine that your (alleged) experience makes you an expert qualified to ‘separate the BS’ but someone who was actually deployed in the area would not be. That makes total sense because you, from a seat by your new pool, know more than a primary source. BRILLIANT!

            Captric – “You THINK you know something about special ops…”

            - Let me stop you right there. I never made that claim, again you are thinking of someone else. Use that ‘mathematically correct thinking’ to comb through this discussion looking at the names next to each comment.

            Captric – “That is very republican of you. This is why no one takes people like you seriously. The biggest mistake is that republibots make is thinking that everyone hates Obama as much as you do.”

            - Sorry, still not a Republican. I voted Obama in 2008, although I think he’s been an atrocious president and did not vote for him a second time. Fool me once shame on you, etc… etc…

            Captric – “You not listen to learn – you listen to respond.”

            - I should get an award for successfully parsing this sentence. The interesting thing is, you keep confusing me with other people, didn’t really read my original post, and then accuse me of not listening. Do you even read what you type?

            Captric – “An hypothesis is proven right by proving the null hypothesis is wrong.”

            - Congratulations, you have a basic understanding of how control groups are used to establish causal relationships in the analysis of scientific data. Ronald Fisher would be so proud. Do you have a point here?

          • ThatGuy

            - Oh, I almost forgot one item.

            Captric – “Why would I care what you think you arrogant nut job. So you believe in
            ghosts and you believe there is a big “conspiracy” where the President
            himself woke up at 3 am and made tactical decisions regarding a night
            firefight on the other side of the world?”

            - Sean Smith was found dead at around 4:30pm EDT. Much of the fighting occurred before 10pm EDT. You’re going to have to clarify why you keep bringing up ’3 am’? I’m hoping one wouldn’t have to ‘wake the president’ at 4:30 in the afternoon.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            So whats your point idiot??? That the order to Stand Down from his commander – NOT the President – would have saved his life and mitigated the damage already done? I heard that A couple marines were killed along with some Libyan militia trying to rescue those two dumb asses that disobeyed orders and highjacked a civilian business jet!! Good thing you are not in the military – you would waste peoples lives and do nothing to enhance an already difficult situation!! SO Shut UP!!

          • ThatGuy

            If you were even marginally literate you wouldn’t have to ask what my point was. I spelled it out explicitly. You kept asking people if they thought Obama should have been woken up at ’3am’. I merely pointed out that the events didn’t occur at 3am EDT and implied that by asking that question you were demonstrating a great deal of ignorance regarding the events being discussed. If you earned a masters from Villanova then I question their standards.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I question your intelligence – the information I have – which is factual and credible – is based on what REALLY happened not what your wing nut friends here imagine. The times are spelled out out with clarity and the reactions of the White House and others in the time zones they occurred in. Leave the decision making and stand down orders to people who know enough about what is going on to try to launch a jet fighter without refueling or SAR assets. Or a couple of Civilian contract Security Employees against 150 well armed militia in an armored Land Cruiser across one of the largest deserts in the world! Guys like you do not have a clue!

          • ThatGuy

            Your information is so credible that you didn’t realize that most of the events occurred before 10pm EDT not around 3am EDT.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            If you had an ounce of intelligence you would know the earth rotates and the time at 3 am in Benghazi would have been 11 pm Washington. You are a rube- and a political operative – determined to keep alive a myth that has since been proven to have been fabricated for political purposes by the far right through the dishonest altercation of emails regarding the attack. You people really are despicable.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            If you had an ounce of intelligence you would know the earth rotates and the time at 3 am in Benghazi would have been 11 pm Washington. You are a rube- and a political operative – determined to keep alive a myth that has since been proven to have been fabricated for political purposes by the far right through the dishonest altercation of emails regarding the attack. You people really are despicable.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            If you had an ounce of intelligence you would know the earth rotates and the time at 3 am in Benghazi would have been 11 pm Washington. You are a rube- and a political operative – determined to keep alive a myth that has since been proven to have been fabricated for political purposes by the far right through the dishonest altercation of emails regarding the attack. You people really are despicable.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            If you had an ounce of intelligence you would know the earth rotates and the time at 3 am in Benghazi would have been 11 pm Washington. You are a rube- and a political operative – determined to keep alive a myth that has since been proven to have been fabricated for political purposes by the far right through the dishonest altercation of emails regarding the attack. You people really are despicable.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            MOST of the events DID occur early in the morning EDT! That is when the CIA facility came under continuous attack.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            MOST of the events DID occur early in the morning EDT! That is when the CIA facility came under continuous attack.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            MOST of the events DID occur early in the morning EDT! That is when the CIA facility came under continuous attack.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            MOST of the events DID occur early in the morning EDT! That is when the CIA facility came under continuous attack.

          • ThatGuy

            Your information is so credible that you didn’t realize that most of the events occurred before 10pm EDT not around 3am EDT.

          • ThatGuy

            Your information is so credible that you didn’t realize that most of the events occurred before 10pm EDT not around 3am EDT.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I question your intelligence – the information I have – which is factual and credible – is based on what REALLY happened not what your wing nut friends here imagine. The times are spelled out out with clarity and the reactions of the White House and others in the time zones they occurred in. Leave the decision making and stand down orders to people who know enough about what is going on to try to launch a jet fighter without refueling or SAR assets. Or a couple of Civilian contract Security Employees against 150 well armed militia in an armored Land Cruiser across one of the largest deserts in the world! Guys like you do not have a clue!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I question your intelligence – the information I have – which is factual and credible – is based on what REALLY happened not what your wing nut friends here imagine. The times are spelled out out with clarity and the reactions of the White House and others in the time zones they occurred in. Leave the decision making and stand down orders to people who know enough about what is going on to try to launch a jet fighter without refueling or SAR assets. Or a couple of Civilian contract Security Employees against 150 well armed militia in an armored Land Cruiser across one of the largest deserts in the world! Guys like you do not have a clue!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I question your intelligence – the information I have – which is factual and credible – is based on what REALLY happened not what your wing nut friends here imagine. The times are spelled out out with clarity and the reactions of the White House and others in the time zones they occurred in. Leave the decision making and stand down orders to people who know enough about what is going on to try to launch a jet fighter without refueling or SAR assets. Or a couple of Civilian contract Security Employees against 150 well armed militia in an armored Land Cruiser across one of the largest deserts in the world! Guys like you do not have a clue!

          • ThatGuy

            If you were even marginally literate you wouldn’t have to ask what my point was. I spelled it out explicitly. You kept asking people if they thought Obama should have been woken up at ’3am’. I merely pointed out that the events didn’t occur at 3am EDT and implied that by asking that question you were demonstrating a great deal of ignorance regarding the events being discussed. If you earned a masters from Villanova then I question their standards.

          • ThatGuy

            If you were even marginally literate you wouldn’t have to ask what my point was. I spelled it out explicitly. You kept asking people if they thought Obama should have been woken up at ’3am’. I merely pointed out that the events didn’t occur at 3am EDT and implied that by asking that question you were demonstrating a great deal of ignorance regarding the events being discussed. If you earned a masters from Villanova then I question their standards.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            How many times do I have to post the facts!!!

            Pentagon’s national military command center distributed a report around 4:30 p.m., 50 minutes after the assault started, that there had been violence in Benghazi and that the ambassador could not be located. President Obama was informed about the attack at 5 p.m. by his national security adviser, Thomas E. Donilon, at the start of a meeting at the White House with Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta and Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Libya was not the only worry. There were also protests at the United States’ embassies in Tunisia, Egypt and Yemen. The firefight went on through the night.
            The 3am call is an example of what the President does NOT DO! But let me change that for your lack of ability to comprehend the point. The President of the United States does NOT make tactical decisions regarding a firefight on the other side of the world that is taking place at 3 am their time and 11 pm HIS time!! The facts remain remain the same.

          • LoupGarouTFTs

            Repeating an untruth does not make it the truth. This administration is now caught up in three major scandals–possibly four if the IRS was targeting religious groups as well as conservative groups. Obama has two defenses: he is incompetent or he is ignorant. I believe that the third explanation is the truth: that he is corrupt and is trying to take apart the American way of life from inside the government. Eventually, he will be judged by history and we will find out which of us was correct.

            (Wow, look! I didn’t even call you names!)

          • LoupGarouTFTs

            Repeating an untruth does not make it the truth. This administration is now caught up in three major scandals–possibly four if the IRS was targeting religious groups as well as conservative groups. Obama has two defenses: he is incompetent or he is ignorant. I believe that the third explanation is the truth: that he is corrupt and is trying to take apart the American way of life from inside the government. Eventually, he will be judged by history and we will find out which of us was correct.

            (Wow, look! I didn’t even call you names!)

          • LoupGarouTFTs

            Repeating an untruth does not make it the truth. This administration is now caught up in three major scandals–possibly four if the IRS was targeting religious groups as well as conservative groups. Obama has two defenses: he is incompetent or he is ignorant. I believe that the third explanation is the truth: that he is corrupt and is trying to take apart the American way of life from inside the government. Eventually, he will be judged by history and we will find out which of us was correct.

            (Wow, look! I didn’t even call you names!)

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            How many times do I have to post the facts!!!

            Pentagon’s national military command center distributed a report around 4:30 p.m., 50 minutes after the assault started, that there had been violence in Benghazi and that the ambassador could not be located. President Obama was informed about the attack at 5 p.m. by his national security adviser, Thomas E. Donilon, at the start of a meeting at the White House with Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta and Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Libya was not the only worry. There were also protests at the United States’ embassies in Tunisia, Egypt and Yemen. The firefight went on through the night.
            The 3am call is an example of what the President does NOT DO! But let me change that for your lack of ability to comprehend the point. The President of the United States does NOT make tactical decisions regarding a firefight on the other side of the world that is taking place at 3 am their time and 11 pm HIS time!! The facts remain remain the same.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            How many times do I have to post the facts!!!

            Pentagon’s national military command center distributed a report around 4:30 p.m., 50 minutes after the assault started, that there had been violence in Benghazi and that the ambassador could not be located. President Obama was informed about the attack at 5 p.m. by his national security adviser, Thomas E. Donilon, at the start of a meeting at the White House with Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta and Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Libya was not the only worry. There were also protests at the United States’ embassies in Tunisia, Egypt and Yemen. The firefight went on through the night.
            The 3am call is an example of what the President does NOT DO! But let me change that for your lack of ability to comprehend the point. The President of the United States does NOT make tactical decisions regarding a firefight on the other side of the world that is taking place at 3 am their time and 11 pm HIS time!! The facts remain remain the same.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            How many times do I have to post the facts!!!

            Pentagon’s national military command center distributed a report around 4:30 p.m., 50 minutes after the assault started, that there had been violence in Benghazi and that the ambassador could not be located. President Obama was informed about the attack at 5 p.m. by his national security adviser, Thomas E. Donilon, at the start of a meeting at the White House with Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta and Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Libya was not the only worry. There were also protests at the United States’ embassies in Tunisia, Egypt and Yemen. The firefight went on through the night.
            The 3am call is an example of what the President does NOT DO! But let me change that for your lack of ability to comprehend the point. The President of the United States does NOT make tactical decisions regarding a firefight on the other side of the world that is taking place at 3 am their time and 11 pm HIS time!! The facts remain remain the same.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            NO – YOU are making the argumentum ad hominem and based on false pretenses. I have the facts and the experience and you do not! Give it up boy! You lost the argument – there is no conspiracy.

          • ThatGuy

            You clearly have no clue what an ad hominem argument is. When someone offers an argument counter to yours, and rather than offering evidence to refute their assertions, you tell them that they’re nothing but a ‘nicotine addict’ or ‘fag’ and therefore can’t know what they are talking about, that is the very definition of an ad hominem argument.
            In regards to a ‘conspiracy theory,’ please cite evidence in the form of a direct quote, demonstrating where I proposed a ‘conspiracy theory’ of any kind.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            No clue? You are the one without a clue!! No one has offered ANY credible argument counter to mine – especially YOU. You some on here with some sort of perverse desire to put someone in their place and you would not last 10 seconds with me in real life. I suspect you are fat and dull no nothing with a computer and an internet connection. Do you have anything of importance to offer to this conversation? No you DONT

          • ThatGuy

            I could be fat, I could be thin, I could be Adolf Hitler reincarnated; it is irrelevant. I provided evidence that you are an intolerant hypocrite who makes logically fallacious arguments while contradicting himself. The arguments I make are logically sound no matter who speaks them. That’s why ad hominem arguments are considered a logical fallacy, because they don’t address the argument, just the person who speaks it.

          • ThatGuy

            I could be fat, I could be thin, I could be Adolf Hitler reincarnated; it is irrelevant. I provided evidence that you are an intolerant hypocrite who makes logically fallacious arguments while contradicting himself. The arguments I make are logically sound no matter who speaks them. That’s why ad hominem arguments are considered a logical fallacy, because they don’t address the argument, just the person who speaks it.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            WAY off subject here pal — the article and stream of comments are regarding a comedy channel skit regarding Benghazi! The overwhelming complaint from the republithugs is that there was a conspiracy on the part of the President to manufacture a story to cover up their incompetence and that the Ambassador was killed as a direct result of the Presidents inability to lead and that there were military assets that could have been used but the President ordered them to stand down!! This has NOTHING to do with how I SAID anything – only that I was ABSOLUTELY correct on EVERY point!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            WAY off subject here pal — the article and stream of comments are regarding a comedy channel skit regarding Benghazi! The overwhelming complaint from the republithugs is that there was a conspiracy on the part of the President to manufacture a story to cover up their incompetence and that the Ambassador was killed as a direct result of the Presidents inability to lead and that there were military assets that could have been used but the President ordered them to stand down!! This has NOTHING to do with how I SAID anything – only that I was ABSOLUTELY correct on EVERY point!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            WAY off subject here pal — the article and stream of comments are regarding a comedy channel skit regarding Benghazi! The overwhelming complaint from the republithugs is that there was a conspiracy on the part of the President to manufacture a story to cover up their incompetence and that the Ambassador was killed as a direct result of the Presidents inability to lead and that there were military assets that could have been used but the President ordered them to stand down!! This has NOTHING to do with how I SAID anything – only that I was ABSOLUTELY correct on EVERY point!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            WAY off subject here pal — the article and stream of comments are regarding a comedy channel skit regarding Benghazi! The overwhelming complaint from the republithugs is that there was a conspiracy on the part of the President to manufacture a story to cover up their incompetence and that the Ambassador was killed as a direct result of the Presidents inability to lead and that there were military assets that could have been used but the President ordered them to stand down!! This has NOTHING to do with how I SAID anything – only that I was ABSOLUTELY correct on EVERY point!

          • ThatGuy

            I could be fat, I could be thin, I could be Adolf Hitler reincarnated; it is irrelevant. I provided evidence that you are an intolerant hypocrite who makes logically fallacious arguments while contradicting himself. The arguments I make are logically sound no matter who speaks them. That’s why ad hominem arguments are considered a logical fallacy, because they don’t address the argument, just the person who speaks it.

          • ThatGuy

            I could be fat, I could be thin, I could be Adolf Hitler reincarnated; it is irrelevant. I provided evidence that you are an intolerant hypocrite who makes logically fallacious arguments while contradicting himself. The arguments I make are logically sound no matter who speaks them. That’s why ad hominem arguments are considered a logical fallacy, because they don’t address the argument, just the person who speaks it.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            No clue? You are the one without a clue!! No one has offered ANY credible argument counter to mine – especially YOU. You some on here with some sort of perverse desire to put someone in their place and you would not last 10 seconds with me in real life. I suspect you are fat and dull no nothing with a computer and an internet connection. Do you have anything of importance to offer to this conversation? No you DONT

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            No clue? You are the one without a clue!! No one has offered ANY credible argument counter to mine – especially YOU. You some on here with some sort of perverse desire to put someone in their place and you would not last 10 seconds with me in real life. I suspect you are fat and dull no nothing with a computer and an internet connection. Do you have anything of importance to offer to this conversation? No you DONT

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            A conspiracy theory is what this entire string of arguments about. If you are not interested in the subject matter why are you even here?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            A conspiracy theory is what this entire string of arguments about. If you are not interested in the subject matter why are you even here?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            A conspiracy theory is what this entire string of arguments about. If you are not interested in the subject matter why are you even here?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            A conspiracy theory is what this entire string of arguments about. If you are not interested in the subject matter why are you even here?

          • ThatGuy

            You clearly have no clue what an ad hominem argument is. When someone offers an argument counter to yours, and rather than offering evidence to refute their assertions, you tell them that they’re nothing but a ‘nicotine addict’ or ‘fag’ and therefore can’t know what they are talking about, that is the very definition of an ad hominem argument.
            In regards to a ‘conspiracy theory,’ please cite evidence in the form of a direct quote, demonstrating where I proposed a ‘conspiracy theory’ of any kind.

          • ThatGuy

            You clearly have no clue what an ad hominem argument is. When someone offers an argument counter to yours, and rather than offering evidence to refute their assertions, you tell them that they’re nothing but a ‘nicotine addict’ or ‘fag’ and therefore can’t know what they are talking about, that is the very definition of an ad hominem argument.
            In regards to a ‘conspiracy theory,’ please cite evidence in the form of a direct quote, demonstrating where I proposed a ‘conspiracy theory’ of any kind.

          • ThatGuy

            You clearly have no clue what an ad hominem argument is. When someone offers an argument counter to yours, and rather than offering evidence to refute their assertions, you tell them that they’re nothing but a ‘nicotine addict’ or ‘fag’ and therefore can’t know what they are talking about, that is the very definition of an ad hominem argument.
            In regards to a ‘conspiracy theory,’ please cite evidence in the form of a direct quote, demonstrating where I proposed a ‘conspiracy theory’ of any kind.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You argue because you lack so little real world experience that it is hard for you to relate to real world experience. I bet all you have done in your life is candy a** your way through school on your mommy and Daddies dime and sit on your Fat Arse for a living. I know the type – big on words – small on experience.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You argue because you lack so little real world experience that it is hard for you to relate to real world experience. I bet all you have done in your life is candy a** your way through school on your mommy and Daddies dime and sit on your Fat Arse for a living. I know the type – big on words – small on experience.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Do you think using big words make you look smarter? Only to the freaking hill billies on this rediculous excuse for a blog.

          • 4grands

            Thanks for giving up the truth….I thought of a lot of names for you but hillbilly wasn’t one of them. You remind me of someone we all know well whom is also a habitual liar.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Names for me? You are the conservative nut case who cannot seem to understand what pragmatic thought and mathematically correct thinking are. So you are looking for a name to call me using an anonymous name over the internet? LOL You conservatives really are a pathetic lot. You have nothing of substance to add to the article here so you chime in with a two sentence response. Claiming to know more about me than you actually do. You really are a piece of work. Isn’t your gay boyfriend calling you to come back to bed?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Names for me? You are the conservative nut case who cannot seem to understand what pragmatic thought and mathematically correct thinking are. So you are looking for a name to call me using an anonymous name over the internet? LOL You conservatives really are a pathetic lot. You have nothing of substance to add to the article here so you chime in with a two sentence response. Claiming to know more about me than you actually do. You really are a piece of work. Isn’t your gay boyfriend calling you to come back to bed?

          • 4grands

            Thanks for giving up the truth….I thought of a lot of names for you but hillbilly wasn’t one of them. You remind me of someone we all know well whom is also a habitual liar.

          • JThomas2121

            You got owned by ThatGuy. Slither away to your little hole where you belong, probably back in mommy’s basement. So, you were a Navy Seal AND an Army Green Beret? Now that’s some accomplishment. Why don’t you share your real name with everyone since that would certainly make headlines.

            No point listening to your inane, vitriolic drivel captric. You’re just another sycophant who tries to pretend he’s smarter than an eight grader while privately realizing he should have paid attention in grade school.

            Oh, and one last point, hate-mongering, cantankerous troglodyte captric … it’s ‘hillbillies’ and ‘ridiculous.’ So, before you go and criticize others for typos, maybe you should learn basic English first.

            Nice job ThatGuy. Slam dunk.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Do you think using big words make you look smarter? Only to the freaking hill billies on this rediculous excuse for a blog.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Do you think using big words make you look smarter? Only to the freaking hill billies on this rediculous excuse for a blog.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Of course just like a republibot – you have lost the argument so instead of slinking back in to the political hole you crawled from you have to impugn the integrity of the person you are arguing with. That is SUCH a Republipuke characteristic. You are going to tell me what I majored in in college are you? And when you find it too fantastic based on your personal weak experiences you call me a liar. Very republibot of you. In actuality you are nothing more than a region- centric small thinker with very little life experience. You probably identify with whatever ball team that you happen to accidentally be living close to because it gives you some source of pride that you cannot ever find in your own experiences or attributes. You probably speak one language barely – ENGLISH and have no, or very little, experience with other cultures. You have probably NEVER been a police officer, or a race car driver, or a special operator. Everything you do in your life is boringly moderate. There are people in the world – like me for example – that have three times more energy than you do. From an early age we EXCELL at almost everything or go down trying!! I sucked at team sports for example in high school and was a skinny little kid but I could run like a deer and lettered in track. But I BEAT THE CRAP out of a couple of bullies – like you fat boy – and won a lot of respect that I still get at my high school reunions. I eventually went on to obtain a real unadulterated black belt in Japanese Karate – that took 12 years pal. I bet you have never spent 12 years doing anything except sit on your arse in school. I was not satisfied with the job they assigned me in the marines and that is why I volunteered for Force Recon. Only two out of 10 passed the physical exam. You would not last the first ten minutes. Then AFTER Viet Nam and a trip to the Naval Hospital on Guam – I decided to get an education and spent about 8 years getting a Science and Engineering Education followed by an MBA followed by certification in Masters Level Statistical analysis!! What about you brain surgeon?! I was interviewed by the greatest Intel agency on the planet and yet you and your ilk are going to tell ME about that too.? I have accomplished more in my life than 5 of you. And you have never done anything in your life and never will. You just do not have the intellect OR the energy. So don’t try to intimidate me with pretending you “know” something about me. I look at you as the perfect representation of a party who has nothing to offer so the only thing they can do is try to bring their opponents down to their low level. It won’t work and I predict another overwhelming victory for the Dems because no one in this country is buying your BS.

          • ThatGuy

            How insecure you must be; needing to constantly promote yourself. You’re like a walking billboard. Daddy didn’t hug you enough as a kid right?

            Lost the argument? I don’t think you have any clue what you and I have even been discussing. Here’s a hint though, try finding the most recent post, this one is from yesterday.

            It’s ok gramps, I know the internet is complicated and scary, but you’ll figure it out. It is said that patience is a virtue.

          • ThatGuy

            How insecure you must be; needing to constantly promote yourself. You’re like a walking billboard. Daddy didn’t hug you enough as a kid right?

            Lost the argument? I don’t think you have any clue what you and I have even been discussing. Here’s a hint though, try finding the most recent post, this one is from yesterday.

            It’s ok gramps, I know the internet is complicated and scary, but you’ll figure it out. It is said that patience is a virtue.

          • ThatGuy

            How insecure you must be; needing to constantly promote yourself. You’re like a walking billboard. Daddy didn’t hug you enough as a kid right?

            Lost the argument? I don’t think you have any clue what you and I have even been discussing. Here’s a hint though, try finding the most recent post, this one is from yesterday.

            It’s OK gramps, I know the internet is complicated and scary, but you’ll figure it out. It is said that patience is a virtue.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            So you are not going to publish any of your “facts” here you are just going to spew more BS about how you know more than I. One of the first rules of the scary internet is to not repeat the same post over and over…..get a clue chubby. I don’t have to promote myself at all! I could care less what ANYBODY here thinks but I find intolerant is for you and the other ignoramuses who have never done anything or accomplished anything of importance in their life to try to bring me down to their low level. The people I hang out with and relate to are men and women of high accomplishment. That is – doing things that guys like you only dream about. So spare me the lecture boy……go out and jump out of an airplane in the middle of the night with SCUBA gear on and survive off the land for a week before you try to tell me what is is REALLY like based on your Google search. And I already have all of the latest information…….their was NO assets available that could be dispatched in time to make a difference once the proper authorities found out. I would – just like these guys that tried to respond from Tripoli – be armed and ready to go save the day but this is why we have ADULT leadership in the military to make sure the RESCUE mission gets there in one piece and without having to be SAVED themselves – which is what in the end actually happened!!!! SEAL’s and Ex SEAL’s are not bullet proof – they went there and promptly got KILLED! And that is no ones fault except their own and the Militia that killed them.

          • ThatGuy

            Captric – “I don’t have to promote myself at all! I could care less what ANYBODY here thinks”

            Captric – “I find intolerant is for you and the other ignoramuses who have never done anything or accomplished anything of importance in their life to try to bring me down to their low level.”

            - If you find it ‘intolerant’ for people to ‘bring you down’ then you care what they think. Villanova apparently doesn’t educate students in this new thing called ‘logic.’

            - Since you had trouble finding the more recent posts in our discussion, I’ll bring them to you:

            - You’re just like a wind-up toy, I wind you up and watch you go. I won’t address most of your commentary, because frankly, it was pointless puffery and bluster. “I’m Captric, I think I’m awesome, please pay attention to me!!!!” Sooooooo needy. *eye roll*
            - I will deign to address a FEW items from your inane nattering.

            Captric – “Being a conservative you can only impugn the reputation or qualifications of those making a counter argument”

            a) I never said I’m a ‘conservative’, because I’m not. That’s an assumption you’ve made while frothing at the mouth over the ‘big bad conservatives’ who are ‘out to get you.’
            b) Impugn your reputation? Have I uttered other than truth regarding statements you have made here and on other forums? Also, this statement is quite hypocritical considering you call everyone who disagrees with you ‘fag.’ A point I made earlier which you never rebutted. I will consider your failure tacit acceptance of your hypocrisy. In fact, you only actually addressed one point from my original post. I’m beginning to think it’s because you’re incapable of refuting my claims.
            c) Counter argument to what? My points were as follows
            1) I demonstrated that you’re a homophobic, hate-mongering, Atheist. Generally Atheists claim to be tolerant; I offered evidence showing that you had in fact claimed such. This makes you a hypocrite.
            2) As above, I claimed that you’re a hypocrite for criticizing people for ‘throwing insults’ when you do the same to no end. I offered evidence to back this claim.
            3) I claimed you were a hypocrite for complaining about the spelling of others on two separate occasions and then throwing a little fit when someone pointed out your spelling errors.
            4) I questioned an inconsistency between your claims on this site as compared to another site. This was the only point you actually addressed.
            5) I argued that you contradict yourself when you complain that people with no military experience can’t understand the issues (also a fallacious ‘appeal to inappropriate authority’ argument) yet turn around and insult anyone with military experience who contradicts you. Also, this lack of respect for your fellow servicemen is what makes ME question your claims to military service.
            6) I asserted that you had completely missed the point of an argument comparing this administration’s acceptance of credit for the actions of subordinates in cases such as the death of Osama Bin Laden and the denial of blame for the actions of subordinates in situations like Benghazi.
            7) I pointed out that you frequently accuse others of failing an evidentiary standard but never offer sources or evidence to back your own claims.
            8) I argued the idiocy of your repeated earlier references to the 13 hour drive across ‘one of the biggest deserts in the world’ when you yourself later claim they flew.
            9) I pointed out that you referenced ‘marines from Tripoli’ when you earlier tweeted a story from MotherJones ( http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/egypt-embassy-marines-live-ammo ) where a Major Alex Cross (OLA) stated “Contrary to open source reporting, there are no Marines currently stationed at the Embassy in Tripoli, or the Consulate in Benghazi.” This calls into question how ‘educated’ on the issue you really are.
            10) I presented evidence to support the conclusion that you are nothing more than an ‘angry atheist’ troll, on a number of sites. The previous 9 arguments are actually offered primarily as evidence of this final argument.

            Captric – “The trouble with idiots like you is that you do not have anything to say that disproves the salient point in the entire argument or the topic of this discussion.”

            - I never said you were wrong about whether or not more could have been done in Benghazi. You drew conclusions regarding my position in the absence of evidence, as I’ve observed is your modus operandi. What happened to ‘mathematically correct’ thinking? Personally I think we’ll have to wait for events to unfold before that determination can be rightly made.
            - I do believe that Clinton and Obama both attempted to obfuscate the true nature of these attacks to ‘run up the clock’ so to speak. The entire ‘anti-muslim’ video shtick was an obvious farce. Obama, Clinton, and Carney all made references to it in speeches. Reuters reported ( http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/us-usa-benghazi-emails-idUSBRE89N02C20121024 ) that the White House, Pentagon and other government agencies learned just two hours into the Benghazi attack that Ansar al-Sharia, an Islamic militant group, had “claimed credit” for it. The wire service report was based on three emails from the State Department’s Operations Center. Libya President Mohamed Magariaf insisted on Sept. 16 — five days after the attack — that it was a planned terrorist attack, but administration officials continued for days later to say there was no evidence of a planned attack. Clearly they were being forthright and honest with the American people… sure. Here’s a source where you can read more – http://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/benghazi-timeline/

            Captric – “I could give a squat if you “served in that region” That does not make an authority on ANYTHING”

            - First of all, you’re confusing me with someone else. Take your meds grampa, and stick with me here. Assuming that you were speaking to who you thought you were, let’s follow your ‘mathematically correct’ thinking. So, you opine that your (alleged) experience makes you an expert qualified to ‘separate the BS’ but someone who was actually deployed in the area would not be. That makes total sense because you, from a seat by your new pool, know more than a primary source. BRILLIANT!

            Captric – “You THINK you know something about special ops…”

            - Let me stop you right there. I never made that claim, again you are thinking of someone else. Use that ‘mathematically correct thinking’ to comb through this discussion looking at the names next to each comment.

            Captric – “That is very republican of you. This is why no one takes people like you seriously. The biggest mistake is that republibots make is thinking that everyone hates Obama as much as you do.”

            - Sorry, still not a Republican. I voted Obama in 2008, although I think he’s been an atrocious president and did not vote for him a second time. Fool me once shame on you, etc… etc…

            Captric – “You not listen to learn – you listen to respond.”

            - I should get an award for successfully parsing this sentence. The interesting thing is, you keep confusing me with other people, didn’t really read my original post, and then accuse me of not listening. Do you even read what you type?

            Captric – “An hypothesis is proven right by proving the null hypothesis is wrong.”

            - Congratulations, you have a basic understanding of how control groups are used to establish causal relationships in the analysis of scientific data. Ronald Fisher would be so proud. Do you have a point here?

            - Oh, I almost forgot one item.

            Captric – “Why would I care what you think you arrogant nut job. So you believe in ghosts and you believe there is a big “conspiracy” where the President himself woke up at 3 am and made tactical decisions regarding a night firefight on the other side of the world?”

            - Sean Smith was found dead at around 4:30pm EDT. Much of the fighting occurred before 10pm EDT. You’re going to have to clarify why you keep bringing up ’3 am’? I’m hoping one wouldn’t have to ‘wake the president’ at 4:30 in the afternoon.

          • ThatGuy

            Captric – “I don’t have to promote myself at all! I could care less what ANYBODY here thinks”

            Captric – “I find intolerant is for you and the other ignoramuses who have never done anything or accomplished anything of importance in their life to try to bring me down to their low level.”

            - If you find it ‘intolerant’ for people to ‘bring you down’ then you care what they think. Villanova apparently doesn’t educate students in this new thing called ‘logic.’

            - Since you had trouble finding the more recent posts in our discussion, I’ll bring them to you:

            - You’re just like a wind-up toy, I wind you up and watch you go. I won’t address most of your commentary, because frankly, it was pointless puffery and bluster. “I’m Captric, I think I’m awesome, please pay attention to me!!!!” Sooooooo needy. *eye roll*
            - I will deign to address a FEW items from your inane nattering.

            Captric – “Being a conservative you can only impugn the reputation or qualifications of those making a counter argument”

            a) I never said I’m a ‘conservative’, because I’m not. That’s an assumption you’ve made while frothing at the mouth over the ‘big bad conservatives’ who are ‘out to get you.’
            b) Impugn your reputation? Have I uttered other than truth regarding statements you have made here and on other forums? Also, this statement is quite hypocritical considering you call everyone who disagrees with you ‘fag.’ A point I made earlier which you never rebutted. I will consider your failure tacit acceptance of your hypocrisy. In fact, you only actually addressed one point from my original post. I’m beginning to think it’s because you’re incapable of refuting my claims.
            c) Counter argument to what? My points were as follows
            1) I demonstrated that you’re a homophobic, hate-mongering, Atheist. Generally Atheists claim to be tolerant; I offered evidence showing that you had in fact claimed such. This makes you a hypocrite.
            2) As above, I claimed that you’re a hypocrite for criticizing people for ‘throwing insults’ when you do the same to no end. I offered evidence to back this claim.
            3) I claimed you were a hypocrite for complaining about the spelling of others on two separate occasions and then throwing a little fit when someone pointed out your spelling errors.
            4) I questioned an inconsistency between your claims on this site as compared to another site. This was the only point you actually addressed.
            5) I argued that you contradict yourself when you complain that people with no military experience can’t understand the issues (also a fallacious ‘appeal to inappropriate authority’ argument) yet turn around and insult anyone with military experience who contradicts you. Also, this lack of respect for your fellow servicemen is what makes ME question your claims to military service.
            6) I asserted that you had completely missed the point of an argument comparing this administration’s acceptance of credit for the actions of subordinates in cases such as the death of Osama Bin Laden and the denial of blame for the actions of subordinates in situations like Benghazi.
            7) I pointed out that you frequently accuse others of failing an evidentiary standard but never offer sources or evidence to back your own claims.
            8) I argued the idiocy of your repeated earlier references to the 13 hour drive across ‘one of the biggest deserts in the world’ when you yourself later claim they flew.
            9) I pointed out that you referenced ‘marines from Tripoli’ when you earlier tweeted a story from MotherJones ( http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/egypt-embassy-marines-live-ammo ) where a Major Alex Cross (OLA) stated “Contrary to open source reporting, there are no Marines currently stationed at the Embassy in Tripoli, or the Consulate in Benghazi.” This calls into question how ‘educated’ on the issue you really are.
            10) I presented evidence to support the conclusion that you are nothing more than an ‘angry atheist’ troll, on a number of sites. The previous 9 arguments are actually offered primarily as evidence of this final argument.

            Captric – “The trouble with idiots like you is that you do not have anything to say that disproves the salient point in the entire argument or the topic of this discussion.”

            - I never said you were wrong about whether or not more could have been done in Benghazi. You drew conclusions regarding my position in the absence of evidence, as I’ve observed is your modus operandi. What happened to ‘mathematically correct’ thinking? Personally I think we’ll have to wait for events to unfold before that determination can be rightly made.
            - I do believe that Clinton and Obama both attempted to obfuscate the true nature of these attacks to ‘run up the clock’ so to speak. The entire ‘anti-muslim’ video shtick was an obvious farce. Obama, Clinton, and Carney all made references to it in speeches. Reuters reported ( http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/us-usa-benghazi-emails-idUSBRE89N02C20121024 ) that the White House, Pentagon and other government agencies learned just two hours into the Benghazi attack that Ansar al-Sharia, an Islamic militant group, had “claimed credit” for it. The wire service report was based on three emails from the State Department’s Operations Center. Libya President Mohamed Magariaf insisted on Sept. 16 — five days after the attack — that it was a planned terrorist attack, but administration officials continued for days later to say there was no evidence of a planned attack. Clearly they were being forthright and honest with the American people… sure. Here’s a source where you can read more – http://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/benghazi-timeline/

            Captric – “I could give a squat if you “served in that region” That does not make an authority on ANYTHING”

            - First of all, you’re confusing me with someone else. Take your meds grampa, and stick with me here. Assuming that you were speaking to who you thought you were, let’s follow your ‘mathematically correct’ thinking. So, you opine that your (alleged) experience makes you an expert qualified to ‘separate the BS’ but someone who was actually deployed in the area would not be. That makes total sense because you, from a seat by your new pool, know more than a primary source. BRILLIANT!

            Captric – “You THINK you know something about special ops…”

            - Let me stop you right there. I never made that claim, again you are thinking of someone else. Use that ‘mathematically correct thinking’ to comb through this discussion looking at the names next to each comment.

            Captric – “That is very republican of you. This is why no one takes people like you seriously. The biggest mistake is that republibots make is thinking that everyone hates Obama as much as you do.”

            - Sorry, still not a Republican. I voted Obama in 2008, although I think he’s been an atrocious president and did not vote for him a second time. Fool me once shame on you, etc… etc…

            Captric – “You not listen to learn – you listen to respond.”

            - I should get an award for successfully parsing this sentence. The interesting thing is, you keep confusing me with other people, didn’t really read my original post, and then accuse me of not listening. Do you even read what you type?

            Captric – “An hypothesis is proven right by proving the null hypothesis is wrong.”

            - Congratulations, you have a basic understanding of how control groups are used to establish causal relationships in the analysis of scientific data. Ronald Fisher would be so proud. Do you have a point here?

            - Oh, I almost forgot one item.

            Captric – “Why would I care what you think you arrogant nut job. So you believe in ghosts and you believe there is a big “conspiracy” where the President himself woke up at 3 am and made tactical decisions regarding a night firefight on the other side of the world?”

            - Sean Smith was found dead at around 4:30pm EDT. Much of the fighting occurred before 10pm EDT. You’re going to have to clarify why you keep bringing up ’3 am’? I’m hoping one wouldn’t have to ‘wake the president’ at 4:30 in the afternoon.

          • ThatGuy

            Captric – “I don’t have to promote myself at all! I could care less what ANYBODY here thinks”

            Captric – “I find intolerant is for you and the other ignoramuses who have never done anything or accomplished anything of importance in their life to try to bring me down to their low level.”

            - If you find it ‘intolerant’ for people to ‘bring you down’ then you care what they think. Villanova apparently doesn’t educate students in this new thing called ‘logic.’

            - Since you had trouble finding the more recent posts in our discussion, I’ll bring them to you:

            - You’re just like a wind-up toy, I wind you up and watch you go. I won’t address most of your commentary, because frankly, it was pointless puffery and bluster. “I’m Captric, I think I’m awesome, please pay attention to me!!!!” Sooooooo needy. *eye roll*
            - I will deign to address a FEW items from your inane nattering.

            Captric – “Being a conservative you can only impugn the reputation or qualifications of those making a counter argument”

            a) I never said I’m a ‘conservative’, because I’m not. That’s an assumption you’ve made while frothing at the mouth over the ‘big bad conservatives’ who are ‘out to get you.’
            b) Impugn your reputation? Have I uttered other than truth regarding statements you have made here and on other forums? Also, this statement is quite hypocritical considering you call everyone who disagrees with you ‘fag.’ A point I made earlier which you never rebutted. I will consider your failure tacit acceptance of your hypocrisy. In fact, you only actually addressed one point from my original post. I’m beginning to think it’s because you’re incapable of refuting my claims.
            c) Counter argument to what? My points were as follows
            1) I demonstrated that you’re a homophobic, hate-mongering, Atheist. Generally Atheists claim to be tolerant; I offered evidence showing that you had in fact claimed such. This makes you a hypocrite.
            2) As above, I claimed that you’re a hypocrite for criticizing people for ‘throwing insults’ when you do the same to no end. I offered evidence to back this claim.
            3) I claimed you were a hypocrite for complaining about the spelling of others on two separate occasions and then throwing a little fit when someone pointed out your spelling errors.
            4) I questioned an inconsistency between your claims on this site as compared to another site. This was the only point you actually addressed.
            5) I argued that you contradict yourself when you complain that people with no military experience can’t understand the issues (also a fallacious ‘appeal to inappropriate authority’ argument) yet turn around and insult anyone with military experience who contradicts you. Also, this lack of respect for your fellow servicemen is what makes ME question your claims to military service.
            6) I asserted that you had completely missed the point of an argument comparing this administration’s acceptance of credit for the actions of subordinates in cases such as the death of Osama Bin Laden and the denial of blame for the actions of subordinates in situations like Benghazi.
            7) I pointed out that you frequently accuse others of failing an evidentiary standard but never offer sources or evidence to back your own claims.
            8) I argued the idiocy of your repeated earlier references to the 13 hour drive across ‘one of the biggest deserts in the world’ when you yourself later claim they flew.
            9) I pointed out that you referenced ‘marines from Tripoli’ when you earlier tweeted a story from MotherJones ( http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/egypt-embassy-marines-live-ammo ) where a Major Alex Cross (OLA) stated “Contrary to open source reporting, there are no Marines currently stationed at the Embassy in Tripoli, or the Consulate in Benghazi.” This calls into question how ‘educated’ on the issue you really are.
            10) I presented evidence to support the conclusion that you are nothing more than an ‘angry atheist’ troll, on a number of sites. The previous 9 arguments are actually offered primarily as evidence of this final argument.

            Captric – “The trouble with idiots like you is that you do not have anything to say that disproves the salient point in the entire argument or the topic of this discussion.”

            - I never said you were wrong about whether or not more could have been done in Benghazi. You drew conclusions regarding my position in the absence of evidence, as I’ve observed is your modus operandi. What happened to ‘mathematically correct’ thinking? Personally I think we’ll have to wait for events to unfold before that determination can be rightly made.
            - I do believe that Clinton and Obama both attempted to obfuscate the true nature of these attacks to ‘run up the clock’ so to speak. The entire ‘anti-muslim’ video shtick was an obvious farce. Obama, Clinton, and Carney all made references to it in speeches. Reuters reported ( http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/us-usa-benghazi-emails-idUSBRE89N02C20121024 ) that the White House, Pentagon and other government agencies learned just two hours into the Benghazi attack that Ansar al-Sharia, an Islamic militant group, had “claimed credit” for it. The wire service report was based on three emails from the State Department’s Operations Center. Libya President Mohamed Magariaf insisted on Sept. 16 — five days after the attack — that it was a planned terrorist attack, but administration officials continued for days later to say there was no evidence of a planned attack. Clearly they were being forthright and honest with the American people… sure. Here’s a source where you can read more – http://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/benghazi-timeline/

            Captric – “I could give a squat if you “served in that region” That does not make an authority on ANYTHING”

            - First of all, you’re confusing me with someone else. Take your meds grampa, and stick with me here. Assuming that you were speaking to who you thought you were, let’s follow your ‘mathematically correct’ thinking. So, you opine that your (alleged) experience makes you an expert qualified to ‘separate the BS’ but someone who was actually deployed in the area would not be. That makes total sense because you, from a seat by your new pool, know more than a primary source. BRILLIANT!

            Captric – “You THINK you know something about special ops…”

            - Let me stop you right there. I never made that claim, again you are thinking of someone else. Use that ‘mathematically correct thinking’ to comb through this discussion looking at the names next to each comment.

            Captric – “That is very republican of you. This is why no one takes people like you seriously. The biggest mistake is that republibots make is thinking that everyone hates Obama as much as you do.”

            - Sorry, still not a Republican. I voted Obama in 2008, although I think he’s been an atrocious president and did not vote for him a second time. Fool me once shame on you, etc… etc…

            Captric – “You not listen to learn – you listen to respond.”

            - I should get an award for successfully parsing this sentence. The interesting thing is, you keep confusing me with other people, didn’t really read my original post, and then accuse me of not listening. Do you even read what you type?

            Captric – “An hypothesis is proven right by proving the null hypothesis is wrong.”

            - Congratulations, you have a basic understanding of how control groups are used to establish causal relationships in the analysis of scientific data. Ronald Fisher would be so proud. Do you have a point here?

            - Oh, I almost forgot one item.

            Captric – “Why would I care what you think you arrogant nut job. So you believe in ghosts and you believe there is a big “conspiracy” where the President himself woke up at 3 am and made tactical decisions regarding a night firefight on the other side of the world?”

            - Sean Smith was found dead at around 4:30pm EDT. Much of the fighting occurred before 10pm EDT. You’re going to have to clarify why you keep bringing up ’3 am’? I’m hoping one wouldn’t have to ‘wake the president’ at 4:30 in the afternoon.

          • ThatGuy

            Captric – “I don’t have to promote myself at all! I could care less what ANYBODY here thinks”

            Captric – “I find intolerant is for you and the other ignoramuses who have never done anything or accomplished anything of importance in their life to try to bring me down to their low level.”

            - If you find it ‘intolerant’ for people to ‘bring you down’ then you care what they think. Villanova apparently doesn’t educate students in this new thing called ‘logic.’

            - Since you had trouble finding the more recent posts in our discussion, I’ll bring them to you:

            - You’re just like a wind-up toy, I wind you up and watch you go. I won’t address most of your commentary, because frankly, it was pointless puffery and bluster. “I’m Captric, I think I’m awesome, please pay attention to me!!!!” Sooooooo needy. *eye roll*
            - I will deign to address a FEW items from your inane nattering.

            Captric – “Being a conservative you can only impugn the reputation or qualifications of those making a counter argument”

            a) I never said I’m a ‘conservative’, because I’m not. That’s an assumption you’ve made while frothing at the mouth over the ‘big bad conservatives’ who are ‘out to get you.’
            b) Impugn your reputation? Have I uttered other than truth regarding statements you have made here and on other forums? Also, this statement is quite hypocritical considering you call everyone who disagrees with you ‘fag.’ A point I made earlier which you never rebutted. I will consider your failure tacit acceptance of your hypocrisy. In fact, you only actually addressed one point from my original post. I’m beginning to think it’s because you’re incapable of refuting my claims.
            c) Counter argument to what? My points were as follows
            1) I demonstrated that you’re a homophobic, hate-mongering, Atheist. Generally Atheists claim to be tolerant; I offered evidence showing that you had in fact claimed such. This makes you a hypocrite.
            2) As above, I claimed that you’re a hypocrite for criticizing people for ‘throwing insults’ when you do the same to no end. I offered evidence to back this claim.
            3) I claimed you were a hypocrite for complaining about the spelling of others on two separate occasions and then throwing a little fit when someone pointed out your spelling errors.
            4) I questioned an inconsistency between your claims on this site as compared to another site. This was the only point you actually addressed.
            5) I argued that you contradict yourself when you complain that people with no military experience can’t understand the issues (also a fallacious ‘appeal to inappropriate authority’ argument) yet turn around and insult anyone with military experience who contradicts you. Also, this lack of respect for your fellow servicemen is what makes ME question your claims to military service.
            6) I asserted that you had completely missed the point of an argument comparing this administration’s acceptance of credit for the actions of subordinates in cases such as the death of Osama Bin Laden and the denial of blame for the actions of subordinates in situations like Benghazi.
            7) I pointed out that you frequently accuse others of failing an evidentiary standard but never offer sources or evidence to back your own claims.
            8) I argued the idiocy of your repeated earlier references to the 13 hour drive across ‘one of the biggest deserts in the world’ when you yourself later claim they flew.
            9) I pointed out that you referenced ‘marines from Tripoli’ when you earlier tweeted a story from MotherJones ( http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/egypt-embassy-marines-live-ammo ) where a Major Alex Cross (OLA) stated “Contrary to open source reporting, there are no Marines currently stationed at the Embassy in Tripoli, or the Consulate in Benghazi.” This calls into question how ‘educated’ on the issue you really are.
            10) I presented evidence to support the conclusion that you are nothing more than an ‘angry atheist’ troll, on a number of sites. The previous 9 arguments are actually offered primarily as evidence of this final argument.

            Captric – “The trouble with idiots like you is that you do not have anything to say that disproves the salient point in the entire argument or the topic of this discussion.”

            - I never said you were wrong about whether or not more could have been done in Benghazi. You drew conclusions regarding my position in the absence of evidence, as I’ve observed is your modus operandi. What happened to ‘mathematically correct’ thinking? Personally I think we’ll have to wait for events to unfold before that determination can be rightly made.
            - I do believe that Clinton and Obama both attempted to obfuscate the true nature of these attacks to ‘run up the clock’ so to speak. The entire ‘anti-muslim’ video shtick was an obvious farce. Obama, Clinton, and Carney all made references to it in speeches. Reuters reported ( http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/us-usa-benghazi-emails-idUSBRE89N02C20121024 ) that the White House, Pentagon and other government agencies learned just two hours into the Benghazi attack that Ansar al-Sharia, an Islamic militant group, had “claimed credit” for it. The wire service report was based on three emails from the State Department’s Operations Center. Libya President Mohamed Magariaf insisted on Sept. 16 — five days after the attack — that it was a planned terrorist attack, but administration officials continued for days later to say there was no evidence of a planned attack. Clearly they were being forthright and honest with the American people… sure. Here’s a source where you can read more – http://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/benghazi-timeline/

            Captric – “I could give a squat if you “served in that region” That does not make an authority on ANYTHING”

            - First of all, you’re confusing me with someone else. Take your meds grampa, and stick with me here. Assuming that you were speaking to who you thought you were, let’s follow your ‘mathematically correct’ thinking. So, you opine that your (alleged) experience makes you an expert qualified to ‘separate the BS’ but someone who was actually deployed in the area would not be. That makes total sense because you, from a seat by your new pool, know more than a primary source. BRILLIANT!

            Captric – “You THINK you know something about special ops…”

            - Let me stop you right there. I never made that claim, again you are thinking of someone else. Use that ‘mathematically correct thinking’ to comb through this discussion looking at the names next to each comment.

            Captric – “That is very republican of you. This is why no one takes people like you seriously. The biggest mistake is that republibots make is thinking that everyone hates Obama as much as you do.”

            - Sorry, still not a Republican. I voted Obama in 2008, although I think he’s been an atrocious president and did not vote for him a second time. Fool me once shame on you, etc… etc…

            Captric – “You not listen to learn – you listen to respond.”

            - I should get an award for successfully parsing this sentence. The interesting thing is, you keep confusing me with other people, didn’t really read my original post, and then accuse me of not listening. Do you even read what you type?

            Captric – “An hypothesis is proven right by proving the null hypothesis is wrong.”

            - Congratulations, you have a basic understanding of how control groups are used to establish causal relationships in the analysis of scientific data. Ronald Fisher would be so proud. Do you have a point here?

            - Oh, I almost forgot one item.

            Captric – “Why would I care what you think you arrogant nut job. So you believe in ghosts and you believe there is a big “conspiracy” where the President himself woke up at 3 am and made tactical decisions regarding a night firefight on the other side of the world?”

            - Sean Smith was found dead at around 4:30pm EDT. Much of the fighting occurred before 10pm EDT. You’re going to have to clarify why you keep bringing up ’3 am’? I’m hoping one wouldn’t have to ‘wake the president’ at 4:30 in the afternoon.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            So you are not going to publish any of your “facts” here you are just going to spew more BS about how you know more than I. One of the first rules of the scary internet is to not repeat the same post over and over…..get a clue chubby. I don’t have to promote myself at all! I could care less what ANYBODY here thinks but I find intolerant is for you and the other ignoramuses who have never done anything or accomplished anything of importance in their life to try to bring me down to their low level. The people I hang out with and relate to are men and women of high accomplishment. That is – doing things that guys like you only dream about. So spare me the lecture boy……go out and jump out of an airplane in the middle of the night with SCUBA gear on and survive off the land for a week before you try to tell me what is is REALLY like based on your Google search. And I already have all of the latest information…….their was NO assets available that could be dispatched in time to make a difference once the proper authorities found out. I would – just like these guys that tried to respond from Tripoli – be armed and ready to go save the day but this is why we have ADULT leadership in the military to make sure the RESCUE mission gets there in one piece and without having to be SAVED themselves – which is what in the end actually happened!!!! SEAL’s and Ex SEAL’s are not bullet proof – they went there and promptly got KILLED! And that is no ones fault except their own and the Militia that killed them.

          • JThomas2121

            I love watching your retorts of that captric, whatever, fool. Makes my day to see someone called out on their flagrant lies and hatefulness online. Keep it up. Eventually he’ll realize he’s not intelligent enough to win.

          • JThomas2121

            I love watching your retorts of that captric, whatever, fool. Makes my day to see someone called out on their flagrant lies and hatefulness online. Keep it up. Eventually he’ll realize he’s not intelligent enough to win.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            No actually I DID win — there IS no conspiracy in Benghazi. And it was “that guy” who “slithered back in to his hole”. You should probably take note that your “conspiracy” has now been featured on both SNL and Colbert!! LOL You know you have GREAT conspiracy when absolutely no clear thinking individual takes you seriously and you become the butt of JOKES on the comedy Channel!!!! LOL

          • ThatGuy

            “You should probably take note that your “conspiracy” has now been featured on both SNL and Colbert!!”

            His conspiracy? You do realize that not all of the people you talk to on the internet are the same person right? JThomas never mentioned anything about a conspiracy. We both just happen to agree that you are a hate-mongering hypocrit.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            So what is your purpose here fat boy? You like to anonymously try with all your weak might to disparage other people through the safety of the internet like the coward you are? Come and get some A hole. You dod not even post ONE disparaging remark from the right wing nut jobs that have use equally as obscene language as I do. But that is the MO if far right repblithugs – cut and paste – take things out of context – and try to show something that isn’t true. Did you know that Obama and Hillary’s approval ratings have actually gone up since your three whacko conspiracy’s have been initiated? Why do you think that is? Because MOST of the public in this country is on to your game and think that you are the biggest losers on the political circus. LOL

          • ThatGuy

            “Come get some A hole!!!”

            I don’t think you even realize how comical you are. I envision you sitting at your desk foaming at the mouth, it makes me smile.

            “But that is the MO if far right repblithugs – cut and paste – take things out of context and try to show something that isn’t true”

            I don’t know how many times I’ve typed this sentence, but I’ll reiterate; I’m not a republican. Seriously, isn’t reading comprehension covered at Villanova? I voted for Obama in 2008. I didn’t vote for him in 2012 due to him mostly just continuing Bush’s policies.
            What exactly did I take out of context? You continuously using ‘fag’ as a derogatory term? It’s a fact which anyone with eyes can see. Not very tolerant if you ask me.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Oh – don’t get me wrong I would not want to offend you if you are gay – some of my friends are gay. There is nothing wrong with that. No – fag is a term I use on people people to get their attention in a personal manner and cause them to make a mistake – like calling a black guy a nigga. You are sure to get a reaction – it is a calculated response.I am talking about taking responses out of context because – just like all republitughs – you cut and paste to suit your world view with total dishonesty. LIKE forging eamails to make it LOOK like Obama was in the decision making process and somehow personally responsible for tactical decision made during a firefight on the opposite side of the world.

            So here is a VERY short list of the comments that illicited my responses:ing Eagle captric • :You, sir, (captic) are a stupid jackass.

            Obama_Dogeater captric : Nice job trying to defend the indefensible, douchebag

            What ARE you drinking?

            You remind me of someone we all know well whom is also a habitual liar.

            do you just shoot diarrhea from your toothless maw?

            And that does not even include the know nothings who question my credentials. I do not have to lie about anything – I already have enough self confidence and life experience to tell the truth about my own background and any one who doubts my credentials has only shown me how little life experience and education THEY have – not me!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Oh – don’t get me wrong I would not want to offend you if you are gay – some of my friends are gay. There is nothing wrong with that. No – fag is a term I use on people people to get their attention in a personal manner and cause them to make a mistake – like calling a black guy a nigga. You are sure to get a reaction – it is a calculated response.I am talking about taking responses out of context because – just like all republitughs – you cut and paste to suit your world view with total dishonesty. LIKE forging eamails to make it LOOK like Obama was in the decision making process and somehow personally responsible for tactical decision made during a firefight on the opposite side of the world.

            So here is a VERY short list of the comments that illicited my responses:ing Eagle captric • :You, sir, (captic) are a stupid jackass.

            Obama_Dogeater captric : Nice job trying to defend the indefensible, douchebag

            What ARE you drinking?

            You remind me of someone we all know well whom is also a habitual liar.

            do you just shoot diarrhea from your toothless maw?

            And that does not even include the know nothings who question my credentials. I do not have to lie about anything – I already have enough self confidence and life experience to tell the truth about my own background and any one who doubts my credentials has only shown me how little life experience and education THEY have – not me!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Oh – don’t get me wrong I would not want to offend you if you are gay – some of my friends are gay. There is nothing wrong with that. No – fag is a term I use on people people to get their attention in a personal manner and cause them to make a mistake – like calling a black guy a nigga. You are sure to get a reaction – it is a calculated response.I am talking about taking responses out of context because – just like all republitughs – you cut and paste to suit your world view with total dishonesty. LIKE forging eamails to make it LOOK like Obama was in the decision making process and somehow personally responsible for tactical decision made during a firefight on the opposite side of the world.

            So here is a VERY short list of the comments that illicited my responses:ing Eagle captric • :You, sir, (captic) are a stupid jackass.

            Obama_Dogeater captric : Nice job trying to defend the indefensible, douchebag

            What ARE you drinking?

            You remind me of someone we all know well whom is also a habitual liar.

            do you just shoot diarrhea from your toothless maw?

            And that does not even include the know nothings who question my credentials. I do not have to lie about anything – I already have enough self confidence and life experience to tell the truth about my own background and any one who doubts my credentials has only shown me how little life experience and education THEY have – not me!

          • ThatGuy

            “Come get some A hole!!!”

            I don’t think you even realize how comical you are. I envision you sitting at your desk foaming at the mouth, it makes me smile.

            “But that is the MO if far right repblithugs – cut and paste – take things out of context and try to show something that isn’t true”

            I don’t know how many times I’ve typed this sentence, but I’ll reiterate; I’m not a republican. Seriously, isn’t reading comprehension covered at Villanova? I voted for Obama in 2008. I didn’t vote for him in 2012 due to him mostly just continuing Bush’s policies.
            What exactly did I take out of context? You continuously using ‘fag’ as a derogatory term? It’s a fact which anyone with eyes can see. Not very tolerant if you ask me.

          • ThatGuy

            “Come get some A hole!!!”

            I don’t think you even realize how comical you are. I envision you sitting at your desk foaming at the mouth, it makes me smile.

            “But that is the MO if far right repblithugs – cut and paste – take things out of context and try to show something that isn’t true”

            I don’t know how many times I’ve typed this sentence, but I’ll reiterate; I’m not a republican. Seriously, isn’t reading comprehension covered at Villanova? I voted for Obama in 2008. I didn’t vote for him in 2012 due to him mostly just continuing Bush’s policies.
            What exactly did I take out of context? You continuously using ‘fag’ as a derogatory term? It’s a fact which anyone with eyes can see. Not very tolerant if you ask me.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            So what is your purpose here fat boy? You like to anonymously try with all your weak might to disparage other people through the safety of the internet like the coward you are? Come and get some A hole. You dod not even post ONE disparaging remark from the right wing nut jobs that have use equally as obscene language as I do. But that is the MO if far right repblithugs – cut and paste – take things out of context – and try to show something that isn’t true. Did you know that Obama and Hillary’s approval ratings have actually gone up since your three whacko conspiracy’s have been initiated? Why do you think that is? Because MOST of the public in this country is on to your game and think that you are the biggest losers on the political circus. LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            So what is your purpose here fat boy? You like to anonymously try with all your weak might to disparage other people through the safety of the internet like the coward you are? Come and get some A hole. You dod not even post ONE disparaging remark from the right wing nut jobs that have use equally as obscene language as I do. But that is the MO if far right repblithugs – cut and paste – take things out of context – and try to show something that isn’t true. Did you know that Obama and Hillary’s approval ratings have actually gone up since your three whacko conspiracy’s have been initiated? Why do you think that is? Because MOST of the public in this country is on to your game and think that you are the biggest losers on the political circus. LOL

          • ThatGuy

            “You should probably take note that your “conspiracy” has now been featured on both SNL and Colbert!!”

            His conspiracy? You do realize that not all of the people you talk to on the internet are the same person right? JThomas never mentioned anything about a conspiracy. We both just happen to agree that you are a hate-mongering hypocrit.

          • ThatGuy

            “You should probably take note that your “conspiracy” has now been featured on both SNL and Colbert!!”

            His conspiracy? You do realize that not all of the people you talk to on the internet are the same person right? JThomas never mentioned anything about a conspiracy. We both just happen to agree that you are a hate-mongering hypocrit.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            No actually I DID win — there IS no conspiracy in Benghazi. And it was “that guy” who “slithered back in to his hole”. You should probably take note that your “conspiracy” has now been featured on both SNL and Colbert!! LOL You know you have GREAT conspiracy when absolutely no clear thinking individual takes you seriously and you become the butt of JOKES on the comedy Channel!!!! LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            No actually I DID win — there IS no conspiracy in Benghazi. And it was “that guy” who “slithered back in to his hole”. You should probably take note that your “conspiracy” has now been featured on both SNL and Colbert!! LOL You know you have GREAT conspiracy when absolutely no clear thinking individual takes you seriously and you become the butt of JOKES on the comedy Channel!!!! LOL

          • JThomas2121

            I love watching your retorts of that captric, whatever, fool. Makes my day to see someone called out on their flagrant lies and hatefulness online. Keep it up. Eventually he’ll realize he’s not intelligent enough to win.

          • ThatGuy

            How insecure you must be; needing to constantly promote yourself. You’re like a walking billboard. Daddy didn’t hug you enough as a kid right?

            Lost the argument? I don’t think you have any clue what you and I have even been discussing. Here’s a hint though, try finding the most recent post, this one is from yesterday.

            It’s OK gramps, I know the internet is complicated and scary, but you’ll figure it out. It is said that patience is a virtue.

          • ThatGuy

            How insecure you must be; needing to constantly promote yourself. You’re like a walking billboard. Daddy didn’t hug you enough as a kid right?

            Lost the argument? I don’t think you have any clue what you and I have even been discussing. Here’s a hint though, try finding the most recent post, this one is from yesterday.

            It’s OK gramps, I know the internet is complicated and scary, but you’ll figure it out. It is said that patience is a virtue.

          • King Eagle

            I predict the GOP takes the house in 2014, and the Presidency in 2016. Care to bet real money, or do you just shoot diarrhea from your toothless maw?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Sure — I bet real money because I actually HAVE some – unlike you. You are nothing but a toothless hillbilly hiding behind your computer and taking cheap shots at any body who clearly knows more than you do. Go get a six pack and another tattoo and smoke you life away in front of Fox News moron!

          • King Eagle

            I predict the GOP takes the house in 2014, and the Presidency in 2016. Care to bet real money, or do you just shoot diarrhea from your toothless maw?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Of course just like a republibot – you have lost the argument so instead of slinking back in to the political hole you crawled from you have to impugn the integrity of the person you are arguing with. That is SUCH a Republipuke characteristic. You are going to tell me what I majored in in college are you? And when you find it too fantastic based on your personal weak experiences you call me a liar. Very republibot of you. In actuality you are nothing more than a region- centric small thinker with very little life experience. You probably identify with whatever ball team that you happen to accidentally be living close to because it gives you some source of pride that you cannot ever find in your own experiences or attributes. You probably speak one language barely – ENGLISH and have no, or very little, experience with other cultures. You have probably NEVER been a police officer, or a race car driver, or a special operator. Everything you do in your life is boringly moderate. There are people in the world – like me for example – that have three times more energy than you do. From an early age we EXCELL at almost everything or go down trying!! I sucked at team sports for example in high school and was a skinny little kid but I could run like a deer and lettered in track. But I BEAT THE CRAP out of a couple of bullies – like you fat boy – and won a lot of respect that I still get at my high school reunions. I eventually went on to obtain a real unadulterated black belt in Japanese Karate – that took 12 years pal. I bet you have never spent 12 years doing anything except sit on your arse in school. I was not satisfied with the job they assigned me in the marines and that is why I volunteered for Force Recon. Only two out of 10 passed the physical exam. You would not last the first ten minutes. Then AFTER Viet Nam and a trip to the Naval Hospital on Guam – I decided to get an education and spent about 8 years getting a Science and Engineering Education followed by an MBA followed by certification in Masters Level Statistical analysis!! What about you brain surgeon?! I was interviewed by the greatest Intel agency on the planet and yet you and your ilk are going to tell ME about that too.? I have accomplished more in my life than 5 of you. And you have never done anything in your life and never will. You just do not have the intellect OR the energy. So don’t try to intimidate me with pretending you “know” something about me. I look at you as the perfect representation of a party who has nothing to offer so the only thing they can do is try to bring their opponents down to their low level. It won’t work and I predict another overwhelming victory for the Dems because no one in this country is buying your BS.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Of course just like a republibot – you have lost the argument so instead of slinking back in to the political hole you crawled from you have to impugn the integrity of the person you are arguing with. That is SUCH a Republipuke characteristic. You are going to tell me what I majored in in college are you? And when you find it too fantastic based on your personal weak experiences you call me a liar. Very republibot of you. In actuality you are nothing more than a region- centric small thinker with very little life experience. You probably identify with whatever ball team that you happen to accidentally be living close to because it gives you some source of pride that you cannot ever find in your own experiences or attributes. You probably speak one language barely – ENGLISH and have no, or very little, experience with other cultures. You have probably NEVER been a police officer, or a race car driver, or a special operator. Everything you do in your life is boringly moderate. There are people in the world – like me for example – that have three times more energy than you do. From an early age we EXCELL at almost everything or go down trying!! I sucked at team sports for example in high school and was a skinny little kid but I could run like a deer and lettered in track. But I BEAT THE CRAP out of a couple of bullies – like you fat boy – and won a lot of respect that I still get at my high school reunions. I eventually went on to obtain a real unadulterated black belt in Japanese Karate – that took 12 years pal. I bet you have never spent 12 years doing anything except sit on your arse in school. I was not satisfied with the job they assigned me in the marines and that is why I volunteered for Force Recon. Only two out of 10 passed the physical exam. You would not last the first ten minutes. Then AFTER Viet Nam and a trip to the Naval Hospital on Guam – I decided to get an education and spent about 8 years getting a Science and Engineering Education followed by an MBA followed by certification in Masters Level Statistical analysis!! What about you brain surgeon?! I was interviewed by the greatest Intel agency on the planet and yet you and your ilk are going to tell ME about that too.? I have accomplished more in my life than 5 of you. And you have never done anything in your life and never will. You just do not have the intellect OR the energy. So don’t try to intimidate me with pretending you “know” something about me. I look at you as the perfect representation of a party who has nothing to offer so the only thing they can do is try to bring their opponents down to their low level. It won’t work and I predict another overwhelming victory for the Dems because no one in this country is buying your BS.

          • ThatGuy

            Apologies, the site truncated the formatting a bit which made some of the links difficult to access. I’ll try re-posting part of the relevant sections below.

            Captric – “Another know it who actually knows nothing at all. You question me you little fag?”

            - So wait, you’re a homophobic, hate-mongering, Atheist? I thought it was the position of Atheists everywhere that religion was the cause of this sort of intolerance? What happened to your “Atheists more compassionate than believers” twitter post on 05/05/2012? Or your post (found in the comments here – http://www.revelife.com/771037476/idols-what-are-you-bowing-to/ ) that “people in the world who barely even give any thought to a God” are “the most delightful, happy and richly blessed people I have ever met.” I must say, you don’t strike me as terribly delightful, what with the hate-speech and all.

            Captric – “I am not paid —- I am an Ex Marine Special Operator with combat experinece and a former Navy SEAL and Army Green Beret. I fly AIRPLANES for a living and have a masters degree in Management and a technical experience in Statistics. That means I can pretty well separate the BS from the facts. Unlike you and your ilk who do not know the difference between fiction and fantasy!”

            - You claim quite a list of credentials. Yet here ( http://captric.xanga.com/profile/ ) we find you claiming to have graduated with a masters in statistics from Villanova University. So which is it, masters in statistics or masters in management? Can’t keep your stories straight? Not that it matters much honestly. Look up ‘argument from authority’ specifically the fallacious ‘appeal to inappropriate authority.’ The argument that military experience, and/or a masters degree in statistics or management logically qualifies you to ‘spearate the BS from the facts’ is a non sequitur. Sounds like nothing more than sophistry to me.

          • ThatGuy

            Apologies, the site truncated the formatting a bit which made some of the links difficult to access. I’ll try re-posting part of the relevant sections below.

            Captric – “Another know it who actually knows nothing at all. You question me you little fag?”

            - So wait, you’re a homophobic, hate-mongering, Atheist? I thought it was the position of Atheists everywhere that religion was the cause of this sort of intolerance? What happened to your “Atheists more compassionate than believers” twitter post on 05/05/2012? Or your post (found in the comments here – http://www.revelife.com/771037476/idols-what-are-you-bowing-to/ ) that “people in the world who barely even give any thought to a God” are “the most delightful, happy and richly blessed people I have ever met.” I must say, you don’t strike me as terribly delightful, what with the hate-speech and all.

            Captric – “I am not paid —- I am an Ex Marine Special Operator with combat experinece and a former Navy SEAL and Army Green Beret. I fly AIRPLANES for a living and have a masters degree in Management and a technical experience in Statistics. That means I can pretty well separate the BS from the facts. Unlike you and your ilk who do not know the difference between fiction and fantasy!”

            - You claim quite a list of credentials. Yet here ( http://captric.xanga.com/profile/ ) we find you claiming to have graduated with a masters in statistics from Villanova University. So which is it, masters in statistics or masters in management? Can’t keep your stories straight? Not that it matters much honestly. Look up ‘argument from authority’ specifically the fallacious ‘appeal to inappropriate authority.’ The argument that military experience, and/or a masters degree in statistics or management logically qualifies you to ‘spearate the BS from the facts’ is a non sequitur. Sounds like nothing more than sophistry to me.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Why would I care what you think you arrogant nut job. So you believe in ghosts and you believe there is a big “conspiracy” where the President himself woke up at 3 am and made tactical decisions regarding a night firefight on the other side of the world? No surprise there for me. So go entertain yourself in front of Fox news and leave the important decision making to those of us who can separate reality from fiction!

          • ThatGuy

            Who am I? I get so confused sometimes.
            Wow, you just made a LOT of assumptions there, none of which founded on anything. I merely pointed out the hypocrisy and contradictions in your argument (if one can call your ramblings an argument). As far as why would you care? Based on your behavior on this blog and others, I would hazard a guess that you are a narcissist. I think you care a great deal what people think of you, even random people online. It’s actually sort of sad in a way. You’ve been responding to people on this forum, calling them fags, spouting tired rhetoric, etc… all day. Don’t you have a 24 year old nurse-maid you call a wife to listen to your BS?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            The trouble with idiots like you is that you do not have anything to say that disproves the salient point in the entire argument or the topic of this discussion. Being a conservative you can only impugn the reputation or qualifications of those making a counter argument JUST like you hero’s Shawn, Rush, Breitbart, etc. I could give a squat if you “served in that region” That does not make an authority on ANYTHING. In fact – what you are is just another loudmouth who THINKS you know more than you actually do. You THINK you know something about special ops and would argue like you are an authority with someone who actually does but when your primary hypothesis disproven then you resort to criticizing spelling errors and impugning the character. That is very republican of you. This is why no one takes people like you seriously. The biggest mistake is that republibots make is thinking that everyone hates Obama as much as you do. Get back to after the next election – BOY.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Get off your fat ass and get an education pal. Take a trip to a foreign country or better yet live in one where you can actually learn something. You sit behind a desk imagining what the real world must be like and write it down here demonstrating your ignorance. The conservative movement is doomed because of the biased an non pragmatic nature of the way people of your ilk solve problems. Everything is political. You not listen to learn – you listen to respond. Pretty typical of people who know nothing but like to respond to others as if they do. There really is a difference between FACTS and FICTION. An hypothesis is proven right by proving the null hypothesis is wrong. If you do not even know what I am talking about – then you have found the correct life philosophy to meet your lack of education and mathematical pragmatic thought – the conservative movement. Where talking LOUDER makes you RIGHT and telling people what they want to hear – no matter how wrong or perverse – makes you a celebrity.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Why would I care what you think you arrogant nut job. So you believe in ghosts and you believe there is a big “conspiracy” where the President himself woke up at 3 am and made tactical decisions regarding a night firefight on the other side of the world? No surprise there for me. So go entertain yourself in front of Fox news and leave the important decision making to those of us who can separate reality from fiction!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Why would I care what you think you arrogant nut job. So you believe in ghosts and you believe there is a big “conspiracy” where the President himself woke up at 3 am and made tactical decisions regarding a night firefight on the other side of the world? No surprise there for me. So go entertain yourself in front of Fox news and leave the important decision making to those of us who can separate reality from fiction!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Why would I care what you think you arrogant nut job. So you believe in ghosts and you believe there is a big “conspiracy” where the President himself woke up at 3 am and made tactical decisions regarding a night firefight on the other side of the world? No surprise there for me. So go entertain yourself in front of Fox news and leave the important decision making to those of us who can separate reality from fiction!

          • DirectActionVet

            Hey ThatGuy, do you have this guys actual name? This needs to be brought to the attention to the guys at SOCNET and Guardian of Valor.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            What is your actual name moron? You have to prove that I am lying – and I am not – in order to get action from SOCNET. The problem wit guys like you is that you have so little experience – you have so little education – not just formal but life- and you have so little military experience that you find it hard to believe anyone has accomplished more in life than you. THAT is pretty FUC**** Pathetic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Rob Holman

            So you can’t refute a single thing he said? Got it.

            tl;dr

          • Rob Holman

            So you can’t refute a single thing he said? Got it.

            tl;dr

          • Rob Holman

            So you can’t refute a single thing he said? Got it.

            tl;dr

          • ThatGuy

            - Captric, I find your posts perversely amusing. They’re sort of like a train-wreck, I know I shouldn’t look, but can’t quite look away. Let’s analyze some of your ‘words of wisdom’ shall we?

            Captric – “How sad it is for someone like you to go through life basing your decissions and your moral compass on a 2000 year old bronze age cult that has been proven time and again to be a fraud.”

            Captric – “I have seen a few people die on a battlefield – you have not – NO ONE said oh god oh god. Even if they DID it doesn’t prove a god you moron. A common trait of republipukes is to believe things that are not true – like ghosts and demons and zombie jesus and conspiracies about how the President left people to die in Libya and called for the IRS to audit only tea partiers! LOL”

            Captric – “Put your pants back on Fag boy ——-“

            Captric – “Another know it who actually knows nothing at all. You question me you little fag?”

            - So wait, you’re a homophobic, hate-mongering, Atheist? I thought it was the position of Atheists everywhere that religion was the cause of this sort of intolerance? What happened to your “Atheists more compassionate than believers” twitter post on 05/05/2012? Or your post (found in the comments here – http://www.revelife.com/771037476/idols-what-are-you-bowing-to/) that “people in the world who barely even give any thought to a God” are “the most delightful, happy and richly blessed people I have ever met.” I must say, you don’t strike me as terribly delightful, what with the hate-speech and all.

            Captric – “You are typical sort of coward from the republibot party – throwing insults from the safety of your laptop! LOL This is why no one takes you people serious. You are SO eager to find a conspiracy you look foolish in your one sentence PROOFS of misconduct reaching the President or Secretary of State. When you want an education – hit me up – I can also teach you some respect – boy.”

            Captric – “You gotta love the two word sentences. Exactly what I have come to expect from the deep thinkers of the Republibot party.”

            Captric – “Awwwwww — whats the matter — you have thin skin — that is pretty typical of chicken hawks from the republibot party of illiterate morons and do nothing alcoholic nicotine addicts.”

            Captric – “More one sentence insults from internet cowards! You gotta love the republipuke party!”

            Captric – “You are an idiot and a moron.”

            Captric – “That coming from a stool for brains illiterate republibot? LOL”

            Captric – “Son— I could kick you fat arsse intellectually or physically old man.”

            Captric – “Unbeleivable – you are a simple minded fool!!”

            - Isn’t it a little hypocritical to complain about people ‘throwing insults’ from the safety of their laptops, using short responses, and one sentence insults, when we have plenty of examples of you responding with such wisdom as “You are an idiot and a moron”?

            Captric – “Did you mean “HIDE”……I don’t have to HIDE from dumb arsses that cannot even spell a simple four letter word. Haha”

            Captric – “It is “TOO” many trophies – but then I don’t criticize others spelling because that is a what cowards on the right who have no substantive statements to make.”

            Captric – “That is always the last desperate response of a person who has lost an argument based on facts. To try to marginalize their opponents legitimacy by pointing out spelling errors. Similar to the tactic that the right uses on the President – to try to de legitimize his successes by making up conspiracy theories devoid of facts and blaming lower level decisions not linked to him at all by trying to trace an invisible line directly to the president. It is just another reason why resonable and intelligent people with an education reject your world view. Have you looked at the polls lately? Both Obama and Hillary are WAY ahead of anything the right has to offer up as a candidate for the next national election. Article like this one and the people who respond only reinforces what most reasonable people already know. That the right is SO desperate that instead of creating a platform of positive changes to campaign, they have to try to bring down their opponents by deceit.”

            - More contradictions; Here you argue that criticizing an argument for containing spelling errors is a sign of a failed argument yet do the same yourself. By your own logic we can assume you lost your argument and were forced to fall back on the same ‘desperate’ device.

            Captric – “I am not paid —- I am an Ex Marine Special Operator with combat experinece and a former Navy SEAL and Army Green Beret. I fly AIRPLANES for a living and have a masters degree in Management and a technical experience in Statistics. That means I can pretty well separate the BS from the facts. Unlike you and your ilk who do not know the difference between fiction and fantasy!”

            - You claim quite a list of credentials. Yet here (http://captric.xanga.com/profile/) we find you claiming to have graduated with a masters in statistics from Villanova University. So which is it, masters in statistics or masters in management? Can’t keep your stories straight? Not that it matters much honestly. Look up ‘argument from authority’ specifically the fallacious ‘appeal to inappropriate authority.’ The argument that military experience, and/or a masters degree in statistics or management logically qualifies you to ‘spearate the BS from the facts’ is a non sequitur. Sounds like nothing more than sophistry to me.

            Captric – “It is certainly true that you know nothing about the military – which makes you the perfect mouth piece to comment on it. We let girls serve in Marine Recon or Special Forces or Navy SEALS. Oh look – another empty kitchen! Why don’t you go off and comment on something in glamour magazine little girl.”

            Captric – “You think? So what are you – a pansy ass sailor or something? Have you ever even seen combat? Last time I went on a rescue mission with the Marines Special Ops no President was making the tactical decision on whether or not we should go! Did you even graduate from high school?”

            - You frequently insult those whom you assume, without evidence, have no military experience yet also criticize those that do. I should point out that this behavior is not very respectful, nor very consistent.

            Anthony – “Isn’t that what “he” did when “he got Osama” …”

            Captric – “BS!!!! When were YOU in the military???? When he “got Osama” he only authorized the SEAL Team raid after weighing the pros and cons of the other two alternatives! Then he watched the raid from the IR camera of a drone. He didn’t tell them WHEN to shoot or Where to land!!!”

            - I can’t tell if you are being intentionally obtuse here or if you really didn’t understand the argument. Unless I misunderstand him, Anthony is suggesting that the Obama administration cannot take credit for the actions of subordinates in cases such as the death of Osama Bin Laden, yet deny blame for the actions of subordinates in situations like Benghazi. I believe that’s called trying to ‘have your cake and eat it too.’

            Captric – “No you are wrong. There are actually Presidential Scholars who study this stuff and it turns out that BUSH is the worst President in US History. He and Cheney are also the first Administration to be WANTED for war crimes in a european country. Why do you think Bush is in hiding – is never seen – never speaks in public- never on the news.”

            Captric – “What evidence do you have for the President of the US giving MANPADS to Al Queda? You really are warped!!! Where do you get your information? From Breitbart and Limbaugh. It is guy like you that will sink any hope the Republibots have of winning another election. So GO for it! Provide us right here with your evidence!!!! LOL”

            - Above you make a unsubstantiated statement but criticize others for the same. In point of fact, I have yet to see a single post where you provide evidence of ANY kind. You merely allude to the existence of evidence, which is hardly the same thing. Anyone can imply that evidence exists, whether it does or not.

            Captric – “The only QRF was the Marine Anti Terror Team in Tripoli! They responded as soon as they could from 650 miles away! That is a 13 hour drive across one of the biggest deserts in the world. I dont think you have a clue what you are talking about”

            Captric – “His commanders dispatched the Marine Anti Terrorism unit from Tripoli as soon as they could go! BUT – the unite 650 miles away! That is 650 across the biggest desert int he world and a 13 hour drive!”

            Captric – “Unbeleivable – you are a simple minded fool!! They DID fly!!! They had to pay a private pilot $30,000”

            - I have to admit, I really don’t understand why you keep mentioning the 13 hour drive across ‘one of the biggest deserts in the world.’ They didn’t drive, so this information is irrelevant. No wonder people thought you were implying that troops would’ve had to have been driven across the desert.

            Captric – “Do you even know the difference between Diplomats and the Military? Service members normally refers to the military. There was no US military involved at all until the next day when the Marines arrived from the Embassy in Tripoli!! There was NO “refusal” to help. Under what rock did you dig that up? The drug addicted nicotine addict fat draft dodging twrice divorced loudmouth Limbaugh rock?????? Do you even know where to go to get credible information in order to make pragmatic and correct decisions on ANYTHING?”

            - Just to point something out, on 10/29/2012 you tweeted this story – http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/egypt-embassy-marines-live-ammo in which “Cross, Alex Maj OLA, LA-41B” states “Contrary to open source reporting, there are no Marines currently stationed at the Embassy in Tripoli, or the Consulate in Benghazi.” It actually backs up part of your argument but you nullify this in your repeated assertions that troops arrived from the embassy in Tripoli. So either Major Alex Cross was lying about the marines from Tripoli, making his whole statement suspect, or you were wrong, making all of your claims of being educated on the subject suspect. So which is it?

            - http://www.revelife.com/770603780/the-christmas-story-and-you/ – You made a comment on that site stating that you “stopped believing in ghosts and started thinking in pragmatic and mathematically correct methods.” The verbiage in that comment is very similar to your comment on this page “I am drinking pragmatic truth and mathematically correct thinking devoid of partisanship.” I’d love to actually hear you explain the correlation between ‘mathematically correct thinking’ and the political ramifications of the September 11th attack on an US embassy in Benghazi. Sounds like some sort of canned rhetoric to me. Are you part of the Pythagorean cult?? (pardon the jest)

            - Captric, my assessment is that you are almost certainly a clichéd ‘angry atheist’ troll. They can be found in dark corners all across the net. Such as here –
            http://www.revelife.com/768790424/should-my-children-take-communion/

            Oh wait, that’s you again. You troll that site pretty regularly too, amongst others, frequently dragging out some of your favorite tired troll phrases such as ‘zombie Jesus’.
            http://www.revelife.com/769685907/christian-comedians-do-they-exist/

            http://thetheologianscafe.xanga.com/772293955/why-do-some-older-men-prefer-to-date-younger-women/ – Your comment here made me laugh. Personally I’d wager you are deluding yourself, but then I don’t know you.

            http://topsy.com/twitter/captric?nohidden=1&page=1 – More of your tweets, just for informational purposes.

          • ThatGuy

            - Captric, I find your posts perversely amusing. They’re sort of like a train-wreck, I know I shouldn’t look, but can’t quite look away. Let’s analyze some of your ‘words of wisdom’ shall we?

            Captric – “How sad it is for someone like you to go through life basing your decissions and your moral compass on a 2000 year old bronze age cult that has been proven time and again to be a fraud.”

            Captric – “I have seen a few people die on a battlefield – you have not – NO ONE said oh god oh god. Even if they DID it doesn’t prove a god you moron. A common trait of republipukes is to believe things that are not true – like ghosts and demons and zombie jesus and conspiracies about how the President left people to die in Libya and called for the IRS to audit only tea partiers! LOL”

            Captric – “Put your pants back on Fag boy ——-“

            Captric – “Another know it who actually knows nothing at all. You question me you little fag?”

            - So wait, you’re a homophobic, hate-mongering, Atheist? I thought it was the position of Atheists everywhere that religion was the cause of this sort of intolerance? What happened to your “Atheists more compassionate than believers” twitter post on 05/05/2012? Or your post (found in the comments here – http://www.revelife.com/771037476/idols-what-are-you-bowing-to/) that “people in the world who barely even give any thought to a God” are “the most delightful, happy and richly blessed people I have ever met.” I must say, you don’t strike me as terribly delightful, what with the hate-speech and all.

            Captric – “You are typical sort of coward from the republibot party – throwing insults from the safety of your laptop! LOL This is why no one takes you people serious. You are SO eager to find a conspiracy you look foolish in your one sentence PROOFS of misconduct reaching the President or Secretary of State. When you want an education – hit me up – I can also teach you some respect – boy.”

            Captric – “You gotta love the two word sentences. Exactly what I have come to expect from the deep thinkers of the Republibot party.”

            Captric – “Awwwwww — whats the matter — you have thin skin — that is pretty typical of chicken hawks from the republibot party of illiterate morons and do nothing alcoholic nicotine addicts.”

            Captric – “More one sentence insults from internet cowards! You gotta love the republipuke party!”

            Captric – “You are an idiot and a moron.”

            Captric – “That coming from a stool for brains illiterate republibot? LOL”

            Captric – “Son— I could kick you fat arsse intellectually or physically old man.”

            Captric – “Unbeleivable – you are a simple minded fool!!”

            - Isn’t it a little hypocritical to complain about people ‘throwing insults’ from the safety of their laptops, using short responses, and one sentence insults, when we have plenty of examples of you responding with such wisdom as “You are an idiot and a moron”?

            Captric – “Did you mean “HIDE”……I don’t have to HIDE from dumb arsses that cannot even spell a simple four letter word. Haha”

            Captric – “It is “TOO” many trophies – but then I don’t criticize others spelling because that is a what cowards on the right who have no substantive statements to make.”

            Captric – “That is always the last desperate response of a person who has lost an argument based on facts. To try to marginalize their opponents legitimacy by pointing out spelling errors. Similar to the tactic that the right uses on the President – to try to de legitimize his successes by making up conspiracy theories devoid of facts and blaming lower level decisions not linked to him at all by trying to trace an invisible line directly to the president. It is just another reason why resonable and intelligent people with an education reject your world view. Have you looked at the polls lately? Both Obama and Hillary are WAY ahead of anything the right has to offer up as a candidate for the next national election. Article like this one and the people who respond only reinforces what most reasonable people already know. That the right is SO desperate that instead of creating a platform of positive changes to campaign, they have to try to bring down their opponents by deceit.”

            - More contradictions; Here you argue that criticizing an argument for containing spelling errors is a sign of a failed argument yet do the same yourself. By your own logic we can assume you lost your argument and were forced to fall back on the same ‘desperate’ device.

            Captric – “I am not paid —- I am an Ex Marine Special Operator with combat experinece and a former Navy SEAL and Army Green Beret. I fly AIRPLANES for a living and have a masters degree in Management and a technical experience in Statistics. That means I can pretty well separate the BS from the facts. Unlike you and your ilk who do not know the difference between fiction and fantasy!”

            - You claim quite a list of credentials. Yet here (http://captric.xanga.com/profile/) we find you claiming to have graduated with a masters in statistics from Villanova University. So which is it, masters in statistics or masters in management? Can’t keep your stories straight? Not that it matters much honestly. Look up ‘argument from authority’ specifically the fallacious ‘appeal to inappropriate authority.’ The argument that military experience, and/or a masters degree in statistics or management logically qualifies you to ‘spearate the BS from the facts’ is a non sequitur. Sounds like nothing more than sophistry to me.

            Captric – “It is certainly true that you know nothing about the military – which makes you the perfect mouth piece to comment on it. We let girls serve in Marine Recon or Special Forces or Navy SEALS. Oh look – another empty kitchen! Why don’t you go off and comment on something in glamour magazine little girl.”

            Captric – “You think? So what are you – a pansy ass sailor or something? Have you ever even seen combat? Last time I went on a rescue mission with the Marines Special Ops no President was making the tactical decision on whether or not we should go! Did you even graduate from high school?”

            - You frequently insult those whom you assume, without evidence, have no military experience yet also criticize those that do. I should point out that this behavior is not very respectful, nor very consistent.

            Anthony – “Isn’t that what “he” did when “he got Osama” …”

            Captric – “BS!!!! When were YOU in the military???? When he “got Osama” he only authorized the SEAL Team raid after weighing the pros and cons of the other two alternatives! Then he watched the raid from the IR camera of a drone. He didn’t tell them WHEN to shoot or Where to land!!!”

            - I can’t tell if you are being intentionally obtuse here or if you really didn’t understand the argument. Unless I misunderstand him, Anthony is suggesting that the Obama administration cannot take credit for the actions of subordinates in cases such as the death of Osama Bin Laden, yet deny blame for the actions of subordinates in situations like Benghazi. I believe that’s called trying to ‘have your cake and eat it too.’

            Captric – “No you are wrong. There are actually Presidential Scholars who study this stuff and it turns out that BUSH is the worst President in US History. He and Cheney are also the first Administration to be WANTED for war crimes in a european country. Why do you think Bush is in hiding – is never seen – never speaks in public- never on the news.”

            Captric – “What evidence do you have for the President of the US giving MANPADS to Al Queda? You really are warped!!! Where do you get your information? From Breitbart and Limbaugh. It is guy like you that will sink any hope the Republibots have of winning another election. So GO for it! Provide us right here with your evidence!!!! LOL”

            - Above you make a unsubstantiated statement but criticize others for the same. In point of fact, I have yet to see a single post where you provide evidence of ANY kind. You merely allude to the existence of evidence, which is hardly the same thing. Anyone can imply that evidence exists, whether it does or not.

            Captric – “The only QRF was the Marine Anti Terror Team in Tripoli! They responded as soon as they could from 650 miles away! That is a 13 hour drive across one of the biggest deserts in the world. I dont think you have a clue what you are talking about”

            Captric – “His commanders dispatched the Marine Anti Terrorism unit from Tripoli as soon as they could go! BUT – the unite 650 miles away! That is 650 across the biggest desert int he world and a 13 hour drive!”

            Captric – “Unbeleivable – you are a simple minded fool!! They DID fly!!! They had to pay a private pilot $30,000”

            - I have to admit, I really don’t understand why you keep mentioning the 13 hour drive across ‘one of the biggest deserts in the world.’ They didn’t drive, so this information is irrelevant. No wonder people thought you were implying that troops would’ve had to have been driven across the desert.

            Captric – “Do you even know the difference between Diplomats and the Military? Service members normally refers to the military. There was no US military involved at all until the next day when the Marines arrived from the Embassy in Tripoli!! There was NO “refusal” to help. Under what rock did you dig that up? The drug addicted nicotine addict fat draft dodging twrice divorced loudmouth Limbaugh rock?????? Do you even know where to go to get credible information in order to make pragmatic and correct decisions on ANYTHING?”

            - Just to point something out, on 10/29/2012 you tweeted this story – http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/egypt-embassy-marines-live-ammo in which “Cross, Alex Maj OLA, LA-41B” states “Contrary to open source reporting, there are no Marines currently stationed at the Embassy in Tripoli, or the Consulate in Benghazi.” It actually backs up part of your argument but you nullify this in your repeated assertions that troops arrived from the embassy in Tripoli. So either Major Alex Cross was lying about the marines from Tripoli, making his whole statement suspect, or you were wrong, making all of your claims of being educated on the subject suspect. So which is it?

            - http://www.revelife.com/770603780/the-christmas-story-and-you/ – You made a comment on that site stating that you “stopped believing in ghosts and started thinking in pragmatic and mathematically correct methods.” The verbiage in that comment is very similar to your comment on this page “I am drinking pragmatic truth and mathematically correct thinking devoid of partisanship.” I’d love to actually hear you explain the correlation between ‘mathematically correct thinking’ and the political ramifications of the September 11th attack on an US embassy in Benghazi. Sounds like some sort of canned rhetoric to me. Are you part of the Pythagorean cult?? (pardon the jest)

            - Captric, my assessment is that you are almost certainly a clichéd ‘angry atheist’ troll. They can be found in dark corners all across the net. Such as here –
            http://www.revelife.com/768790424/should-my-children-take-communion/

            Oh wait, that’s you again. You troll that site pretty regularly too, amongst others, frequently dragging out some of your favorite tired troll phrases such as ‘zombie Jesus’.
            http://www.revelife.com/769685907/christian-comedians-do-they-exist/

            http://thetheologianscafe.xanga.com/772293955/why-do-some-older-men-prefer-to-date-younger-women/ – Your comment here made me laugh. Personally I’d wager you are deluding yourself, but then I don’t know you.

            http://topsy.com/twitter/captric?nohidden=1&page=1 – More of your tweets, just for informational purposes.

          • Amhayzed

            devoid of partisanship? I am NON PARTISAN because they ALL lie. …But you my dear are NOT … DEVOID of anything EXCEPT a BRAIN. …what a joke. I actually just think you are a TROLL.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Ha — have you even read any of my factual evidence. It is all spot on and disproves the far right wing radical opinion that the attack in Benghazi involved some conspiracy. The republican s supplied doctored emails to NBC news who later had to apologize publicly for publishing them. You want to compare credentials? I will compare credentials with ANY right wing nut job on here – and YOU my dear – are the TROLL!

          • Amhayzed

            devoid of partisanship? I am NON PARTISAN because they ALL lie. …But you my dear are NOT … DEVOID of anything EXCEPT a BRAIN. …what a joke. I actually just think you are a TROLL.

          • Amhayzed

            devoid of partisanship? I am NON PARTISAN because they ALL lie. …But you my dear are NOT … DEVOID of anything EXCEPT a BRAIN. …what a joke. I actually just think you are a TROLL.

          • LoupGarouTFTs

            Maybe you should stop drinking and grow a vocabulary, caprtic. The only one here coming off like a rabid anything is you.

          • LoupGarouTFTs

            Maybe you should stop drinking and grow a vocabulary, caprtic. The only one here coming off like a rabid anything is you.

          • LoupGarouTFTs

            Maybe you should stop drinking and grow a vocabulary, caprtic. The only one here coming off like a rabid anything is you.

          • Obama_Dogeater

            He’s been hitting the bong since 9 a.m.

          • oohmygosh

            What ARE you drinking?

          • oohmygosh

            What ARE you drinking?

          • oohmygosh

            What ARE you drinking?

          • Aaron

            NOT to get caught up in this debauchery of an argument, but I suggest Captric that you take a moment and do some searching and read up on what has been released recently about the incident.
            Im in the Military you going to call me BS? I was deployed in the region when this crap went down and no matter what the call, none of the posters you have been arguing with are wrong. As they obviously watched the hearings and you did not.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I did watch the hearings! There was NO conspiracy there. No “explosive” facts linking the President or the Secretary of State to any dereliction of duty as was promised by the media. There was nothing new and no smoking gun. What we have here are bunch of illiterate hillbillies who think that Americans are somehow infallible in combat and all we had to do was send in a couple of SEALS and like Rambo – they would have taken care of everything. LOL We sent in two ex SEAL’s who were CIA Security personnel and they promptly got KILLED further complicating an already convoluted situation.

          • Waclaw Jerzy Borken-Hagen

            ” We sent in two ex SEAL’s who were CIA Security”
            Who is “we”,you lefty moron ? Was it you and Hillary or
            you and obama ?
            Just so you know, these guys broke the shameful orders
            and went to assist the Ambassador.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            They highjacked a civilian aircraft ot get there and then promptly got killed resulting in THEM having to be rescued. The order to stand down was because there was no transportation – no helicopters – and besides – WHAT are two former SEAL’s going to do against 150 well armed militia? Do you think SEAL’s are bullet proof? Any responsible person would not knowingly send them to their deaths. Well — the far right wing nut jobs like you who have never been in the military probably would!! LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            They highjacked a civilian aircraft ot get there and then promptly got killed resulting in THEM having to be rescued. The order to stand down was because there was no transportation – no helicopters – and besides – WHAT are two former SEAL’s going to do against 150 well armed militia? Do you think SEAL’s are bullet proof? Any responsible person would not knowingly send them to their deaths. Well — the far right wing nut jobs like you who have never been in the military probably would!! LOL

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            They highjacked a civilian aircraft ot get there and then promptly got killed resulting in THEM having to be rescued. The order to stand down was because there was no transportation – no helicopters – and besides – WHAT are two former SEAL’s going to do against 150 well armed militia? Do you think SEAL’s are bullet proof? Any responsible person would not knowingly send them to their deaths. Well — the far right wing nut jobs like you who have never been in the military probably would!! LOL

          • King Eagle

            They sacrificed their lives to try and save Americans. Something a pussy like you would never do, since you are still here. Right, Sally? I salute those brave men. I piss in your mouth, however. You are a disgrace to the uniform, though I imagine your credentials are phony anyway. Shouting LOUDER does not make you RIGHTER.

          • King Eagle

            They sacrificed their lives to try and save Americans. Something a pussy like you would never do, since you are still here. Right, Sally? I salute those brave men. I piss in your mouth, however. You are a disgrace to the uniform, though I imagine your credentials are phony anyway. Shouting LOUDER does not make you RIGHTER.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Well OK fag boy since we are talking about piss in mouths – that appears to all that is coming out of yours! LOL Where do you get all of these homosexual fantasies from? King Eagle – is that you call yourself? I bet you are a half educated tattooed nicotine addict who never served a day in the military except maybe in the Air Farce repairing mess kits. I have actually been on rescue missions and was the NCOIC on another making all of the command decisions. What about you butt ranger?

          • ThatGuy

            You are a great representation of Atheists everywhere. Keep shouting out hate-speech while posting on theology blogs how much more tolerant Atheists are. Hypocrite.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You do not need a christian god to be a good person. The people I know who have to go to church on weekends and drink the blood and eat the flesh of a jewish zombie are the most hateful and dishonest people I have ever met anywhere in the world. Perhaps you should travel more – study some science and math – learn how to think in a mathematically correct manner and make decision based on reality instead of mythology and fantasy. Besides – I am a “humanist” NOT an atheist – that is way old terminology but of course you would not know anything about that. The label Atheism is for the weak minded – like you – who just like ALL christians – need to have SOMETHING to hate that can be represented as an icon because let’s face it – people who still believe in angels and demons and monsters and devils just are not the most intelligent people in the world.

          • ThatGuy

            I never said you had to be Christian to be a good person, I simply find your behavior repugnant. Claiming to be tolerant and behaving in a self-righteous fashion while spewing terms like ‘fag’ is despicable. In point of fact I’m very familiar with Humanists, Secular Humanists, and Atheists. Your implication that the term “Atheist” is some sort of anachronism is false. Lot’s of people describe themselves as either Atheist, Humanist or sometimes both. I know many great Atheists, as I know many great Theists and Deists, you would be a sorry representative for any group.

            http://www.cobourgatheist.com/index.php/what-is-atheism/about-atheism/631-humanism-vs-atheism

          • ThatGuy

            I never said you had to be Christian to be a good person, I simply find your behavior repugnant. Claiming to be tolerant and behaving in a self-righteous fashion while spewing terms like ‘fag’ is despicable. In point of fact I’m very familiar with Humanists, Secular Humanists, and Atheists. Your implication that the term “Atheist” is some sort of anachronism is false. Lot’s of people describe themselves as either Atheist, Humanist or sometimes both. I know many great Atheists, as I know many great Theists and Deists, you would be a sorry representative for any group.

            http://www.cobourgatheist.com/index.php/what-is-atheism/about-atheism/631-humanism-vs-atheism

          • ThatGuy

            I never said you had to be Christian to be a good person, I simply find your behavior repugnant. Claiming to be tolerant and behaving in a self-righteous fashion while spewing terms like ‘fag’ is despicable. In point of fact I’m very familiar with Humanists, Secular Humanists, and Atheists. Your implication that the term “Atheist” is some sort of anachronism is false. Lot’s of people describe themselves as either Atheist, Humanist or sometimes both. I know many great Atheists, as I know many great Theists and Deists, you would be a sorry representative for any group.

            http://www.cobourgatheist.com/index.php/what-is-atheism/about-atheism/631-humanism-vs-atheism

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I do not claim to represent anything but myself. If you do not like my attitude or my personality – why are you even here????? THIS is a string of arguments about the failed conspiracy theory of the right wing nut jobs regarding an attack on our temporary diplomatic facility in Benghazi!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I do not claim to represent anything but myself. If you do not like my attitude or my personality – why are you even here????? THIS is a string of arguments about the failed conspiracy theory of the right wing nut jobs regarding an attack on our temporary diplomatic facility in Benghazi!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I do not claim to represent anything but myself. If you do not like my attitude or my personality – why are you even here????? THIS is a string of arguments about the failed conspiracy theory of the right wing nut jobs regarding an attack on our temporary diplomatic facility in Benghazi!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I do not claim to represent anything but myself. If you do not like my attitude or my personality – why are you even here????? THIS is a string of arguments about the failed conspiracy theory of the right wing nut jobs regarding an attack on our temporary diplomatic facility in Benghazi!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Phhhhhhh – do you get your entire education from the internet? Where was your god in Oklahoma City and why did he kill those little kids??

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Phhhhhhh – do you get your entire education from the internet? Where was your god in Oklahoma City and why did he kill those little kids??

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Phhhhhhh – do you get your entire education from the internet? Where was your god in Oklahoma City and why did he kill those little kids??

          • ThatGuy

            I never said you had to be Christian to be a good person, I simply find your behavior repugnant. Claiming to be tolerant and behaving in a self-righteous fashion while spewing terms like ‘fag’ is despicable. In point of fact I’m very familiar with Humanists, Secular Humanists, and Atheists. Your implication that the term “Atheist” is some sort of anachronism is false. Lot’s of people describe themselves as either Atheist, Humanist or sometimes both. I know many great Atheists, as I know many great Theists and Deists, you would be a sorry representative for any group.

            http://www.cobourgatheist.com/index.php/what-is-atheism/about-atheism/631-humanism-vs-atheism

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You do not need a christian god to be a good person. The people I know who have to go to church on weekends and drink the blood and eat the flesh of a jewish zombie are the most hateful and dishonest people I have ever met anywhere in the world. Perhaps you should travel more – study some science and math – learn how to think in a mathematically correct manner and make decision based on reality instead of mythology and fantasy. Besides – I am a “humanist” NOT an atheist – that is way old terminology but of course you would not know anything about that. The label Atheism is for the weak minded – like you – who just like ALL christians – need to have SOMETHING to hate that can be represented as an icon because let’s face it – people who still believe in angels and demons and monsters and devils just are not the most intelligent people in the world.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            You do not need a christian god to be a good person. The people I know who have to go to church on weekends and drink the blood and eat the flesh of a jewish zombie are the most hateful and dishonest people I have ever met anywhere in the world. Perhaps you should travel more – study some science and math – learn how to think in a mathematically correct manner and make decision based on reality instead of mythology and fantasy. Besides – I am a “humanist” NOT an atheist – that is way old terminology but of course you would not know anything about that. The label Atheism is for the weak minded – like you – who just like ALL christians – need to have SOMETHING to hate that can be represented as an icon because let’s face it – people who still believe in angels and demons and monsters and devils just are not the most intelligent people in the world.

          • ThatGuy

            You are a great representation of Atheists everywhere. Keep shouting out hate-speech while posting on theology blogs how much more tolerant Atheists are. Hypocrite.

          • ThatGuy

            You are a great representation of Atheists everywhere. Keep shouting out hate-speech while posting on theology blogs how much more tolerant Atheists are. Hypocrite.

          • ThatGuy

            You are a great representation of Atheists everywhere. Keep shouting out hate-speech while posting on theology blogs how much more tolerant Atheists are. Hypocrite.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Well OK fag boy since we are talking about piss in mouths – that appears to all that is coming out of yours! LOL Where do you get all of these homosexual fantasies from? King Eagle – is that you call yourself? I bet you are a half educated tattooed nicotine addict who never served a day in the military except maybe in the Air Farce repairing mess kits. I have actually been on rescue missions and was the NCOIC on another making all of the command decisions. What about you butt ranger?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Well OK fag boy since we are talking about piss in mouths – that appears to all that is coming out of yours! LOL Where do you get all of these homosexual fantasies from? King Eagle – is that you call yourself? I bet you are a half educated tattooed nicotine addict who never served a day in the military except maybe in the Air Farce repairing mess kits. I have actually been on rescue missions and was the NCOIC on another making all of the command decisions. What about you butt ranger?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Well OK fag boy since we are talking about piss in mouths – that appears to all that is coming out of yours! LOL Where do you get all of these homosexual fantasies from? King Eagle – is that you call yourself? I bet you are a half educated tattooed nicotine addict who never served a day in the military except maybe in the Air Farce repairing mess kits. I have actually been on rescue missions and was the NCOIC on another making all of the command decisions. What about you butt ranger?

          • King Eagle

            They sacrificed their lives to try and save Americans. Something a pussy like you would never do, since you are still here. Right, Sally? I salute those brave men. I piss in your mouth, however. You are a disgrace to the uniform, though I imagine your credentials are phony anyway. Shouting LOUDER does not make you RIGHTER.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            They highjacked a civilian aircraft ot get there and then promptly got killed resulting in THEM having to be rescued. The order to stand down was because there was no transportation – no helicopters – and besides – WHAT are two former SEAL’s going to do against 150 well armed militia? Do you think SEAL’s are bullet proof? Any responsible person would not knowingly send them to their deaths. Well — the far right wing nut jobs like you who have never been in the military probably would!! LOL

          • Waclaw Jerzy Borken-Hagen

            ” We sent in two ex SEAL’s who were CIA Security”
            Who is “we”,you lefty moron ? Was it you and Hillary or
            you and obama ?
            Just so you know, these guys broke the shameful orders
            and went to assist the Ambassador.

          • Aaron

            NOT to get caught up in this debauchery of an argument, but I suggest Captric that you take a moment and do some searching and read up on what has been released recently about the incident.
            Im in the Military you going to call me BS? I was deployed in the region when this crap went down and no matter what the call, none of the posters you have been arguing with are wrong. As they obviously watched the hearings and you did not.

          • DirectActionVet

            Look Bud, you weren’t in any SOF. You have no composure over the way you talk, you show a complete lacking of discipline and I’m telling you right now, you weren’t an SOF operator. You may have been in the military, but you weren’t any of what you say you were.

            Where are you getting your facts? From an administration that lies to everyone constantly? I know you weren’t in the TOC with the guys trying to coordinate whats going on.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            No – I was not in the Tactical Operations Command during the Benghazi firefight. But I WAS in the Combat Operations Command at 1st Force Recon at Camp Reasoner Viet Nam when one of our teams got overrun and never heard from again. You know nothing about me pal – I think YOU are a fraud. What does Directactionvet mean to you? I think you are making that up and you are not a vet at all. I have life experience and discipline that guys like you can only dream about.

          • LoupGarouTFTs

            So when did Obama give the order–before or after the fundraiser appetizer?

          • LoupGarouTFTs

            So when did Obama give the order–before or after the fundraiser appetizer?

          • LoupGarouTFTs

            So when did Obama give the order–before or after the fundraiser appetizer?

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            BS!!!! When were YOU in the military???? When he “got Osama” he only authorized the SEAL Team raid after weighing the pros and cons of the other two alternatives! Then he watched the raid from the IR camera of a drone. He didn’t tell them WHEN to shoot or Where to land!!! “It has been proven that the QRF teams and military leaders were told to stand down”??? BY WHO?? Did you even watch the hearing? NOTHING new was said. One guy says he “WISHED” they could have gotten a fighter to “buzz” the compound to scare the bad guys away!! What a freaking STUPID idea. The only QRF was the Marine Anti Terror Team in Tripoli! They responded as soon as they could from 650 miles away! That is a 13 hour drive across one of the biggest deserts in the world.
            I dont think you have a clue what you are talking about!

          • Rob Holman

            OMFG, you’re retarded.

          • Rob Holman

            OMFG, you’re retarded.

          • Anthony

            Yes, in incidents like that he does. Only him or the Sec Def can authorize emergency miltary action. He is Commander and Cheif of the military. Isn’t that what “he” did when “he got Osama” … Not to mention it has been proven that the QRF teams, and military leaders in the area were told to stand down around 2am that night. Came out in the hearings.

          • Anthony

            Yes, in incidents like that he does. Only him or the Sec Def can authorize emergency miltary action. He is Commander and Cheif of the military. Isn’t that what “he” did when “he got Osama” … Not to mention it has been proven that the QRF teams, and military leaders in the area were told to stand down around 2am that night. Came out in the hearings.

          • irishmaryoh

            The President of the United States didn’t GET UP at all. Panetta TESTIFIED that Obama never called EVEN ONCE THAT’S the problem!

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            Obama is supposed to call? So which is it??? He is supposed to make tactical decisions in the middle of the night about something he knows nothing about? Or is he supposed to MANAGE the military in such a way that he provides competent generals to make those decisions. I cannot believe the ignorance that comes from his opposition!! Truly astonishing and a real eye opening view of the stupidity that prervades this country.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            And you are a tool for the right – taking words of context and spinning them to a conspiracy theory because you really do not have anything factual to report.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            And you are a tool for the right – taking words of context and spinning them to a conspiracy theory because you really do not have anything factual to report.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            And you are a tool for the right – taking words of context and spinning them to a conspiracy theory because you really do not have anything factual to report.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            And you are a tool for the right – taking words of context and spinning them to a conspiracy theory because you really do not have anything factual to report.

          • irishmaryoh

            The President of the United States didn’t GET UP at all. Panetta TESTIFIED that Obama never called EVEN ONCE THAT’S the problem!

          • grammarnazimom

            YOU’RE more credible if you use correct grammar.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            That is always the last desperate response of a person who has lost an argument based on facts. To try to marginalize their opponents legitimacy by pointing out spelling errors. Similar to the tactic that the right uses on the President – to try to de legitimize his successes by making up conspiracy theories devoid of facts and blaming lower level decisions not linked to him at all by trying to trace an invisible line directly to the president. It is just another reason why resonable and intelligent people with an education reject your world view. Have you looked at the polls lately? Both Obama and Hillary are WAY ahead of anything the right has to offer up as a candidate for the next national election. Article like this one and the people who respond only reinforces what most reasonable people already know. That the right is SO desperate that instead of creating a platform of positive changes to campaign, they have to try to bring down their opponents by deceit.

          • grammarnazimom

            YOU’RE more credible if you use correct grammar.

          • grammarnazimom

            YOU’RE more credible if you use correct grammar.

          • grammarnazimom

            YOU’RE more credible if you use correct grammar.

          • $18476877

            When it involves a diplomat? A situation that should require an armed military response in a sovereign nation? I would think that would be a presidential level matter.

          • $18476877

            When it involves a diplomat? A situation that should require an armed military response in a sovereign nation? I would think that would be a presidential level matter.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            WHAT military response?? THAT is the point – there WAS no military available! What you have done – dispatch an F-16 from Italy that would have run out of gas before it even got halfway there??????

          • $18476877

            If you can’t figure this one out for yourself, with your suggested, incredibly over qualified credentials, where could I possibly begin? Maybe this? What are we doing there in the first place? Why did BHO conduct military strikes without congressional approval? There is no end to the questions. If you are what you claim to be, you’d understand chain of command and responsibility. Maybe that’s why you sound like a progressive troll and not a career military man.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I am NOT a military career man pal. So what are YOUR answers to your own questions because people like you – that is all they have—-questions and no answers.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I am NOT a military career man pal. So what are YOUR answers to your own questions because people like you – that is all they have—-questions and no answers.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            I am NOT a military career man pal. So what are YOUR answers to your own questions because people like you – that is all they have—-questions and no answers.

          • Aaron

            I figured out who you are, your the guy that enjoyed getting people spun up! I’ve flown with many of you. Sometimes it’s funny but in your case it has reach insanity.

          • $18476877

            Your tedious, a braggart, deny being career military but not a troll, interesting. I am not your pal, nor would I want to be. You sound like a douche. I do have answers or the questions I posed. You of corse wouldn’t like them, they’re based on the opinions of far more qualified people than you or I, or Obama for that matter. I will not waste my time or yours explaining my opinion, you wouldn’t get it anyway.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            HERE are the facts pal:
            All of those people died because the Congressional Republicans cut Obamas request for Embassy Security by $128 million in 2011 and $331 million in 2012. Hillary in point of fact warned that cuts would be “detrimental to Americas national security”. So stop parroting YOUR Messiah Rush the fat drug addicted alcoholic draft dodging nicotine addict Limbaugh and get an education.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            HERE are the facts pal:
            All of those people died because the Congressional Republicans cut Obamas request for Embassy Security by $128 million in 2011 and $331 million in 2012. Hillary in point of fact warned that cuts would be “detrimental to Americas national security”. So stop parroting YOUR Messiah Rush the fat drug addicted alcoholic draft dodging nicotine addict Limbaugh and get an education.

          • $18476877

            I am not your Pal, Bub. And you couldn’t be more wrong in your pathetic assessment as to where I get my opinions from. F%$king dipsh*t.

          • $18476877

            I am not your Pal, Bub. And you couldn’t be more wrong in your pathetic assessment as to where I get my opinions from. F%$king dipsh*t.

          • $18476877

            I am not your Pal, Bub. And you couldn’t be more wrong in your pathetic assessment as to where I get my opinions from. F%$king dipsh*t.

          • $18476877

            I am not your Pal, Bub. And you couldn’t be more wrong in your pathetic assessment as to where I get my opinions from. F%$king dipsh*t.

          • http://twitter.com/captric captric

            HERE are the facts pal:
            All of those people died because the Congressional Republicans cut Obamas request for Embassy Security by $128 million in 2011 and $331 million in 2012. Hillary in point of fact warned that cuts would be “detrimental to Americas national security”. So stop parroting YOUR Messiah Rush the fat drug addicted alcoholic draft dodging nicotine addict Limbaugh and get an education.

          • http://twitter.com/captric