About the author: Doug Giles

Doug Giles is the Big Dawg at ClashDaily.com and the Co-Owner of The Safari Cigar Company. Follow him on Facebook and Twitter. And check out his new book, Rise, Kill and Eat: A Theology of Hunting from Genesis to Revelation.

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  • RhondaOR

    I say it is stupid. What if the gun man would have kilt him? That’s what cops are for moron.

    • voteliberty2014

      Yeah, moron. Because when a criminal threatens your life, the police are only minutes away. Too bad the criminal only needed a few seconds to end you. But that’s okay, right? Because your dead body will be part of the evidence to convict, right?
      And you call us morons…?

      • OzzWorx

        Look how many people and how much mental resources RhondaOR could expend with one stupid comment. Don’t waste time and effort on these swine.

      • Rattlerjake

        TROLL ALERT! RhondaOR is goading intelligent people again.
        TROLL ALERT! Easily identified by inability to spell simple words (kilt?).
        TROLL ALERT! Immediately starts trying to discredit the opponent with name calling, not facts.

        Fight the urge to respond to these trolls, if we all ignore their obvious ignorance, they will give up and go away.

    • Jim

      Are you serious? Yes, he risked his life, but how many would be dead if he’d cowered and waited for the cops? He used what he had on hand to stop a madman. That’s one reason why the 2nd Amendment was written.

    • http://www.de-navarro.com dnav

      You obviously can’t read or you are so sold out to the moronic lie that the cops STOP crime that you can’t see truth staring you in the face.

      The problem with society in these situations is that it has been WUSSIFIED. Men are no longer supposed to be protectors but wussies who wait for cops to come after 23 people are killed.

      YOU ARE THE MORON — so watch who you call names.

      It is NOT stupid to risk yourself to save many others.

      Jon Meis did what every male American should be ready to do and many females too.

      Quit buying the LIE that we are supposed to roll over in the fetal position and hope the cops make it in time.

      This article gives you a chance to NOT REMAIN IGNORANT.

      • cvxxx

        Come on no need to call names! That just makes people defensive and resistant to accepting new knowledge. The point is to enlighten and educate.
        We all bear some responsibility because we allowed this Political Correctness and Barneyism (the dinosaur)to sap our strength and will.

        • http://www.de-navarro.com dnav

          You are correct and I do not call others names first, but when someone starts calling others names, they deserve the name for themselves.

          So RhondaOR called others “morons” and so deserved the name for herself. I merely pointed out that she earned the title for herself. Go read her post.

          • cvxxx

            I did. However it is we who need to be composed. We with a bit more experience can educate and enlighten to a different way of thinking. Perhaps it will take time to sink in.
            As an example: I saw The movie the Purge last night (cable) the family did a lot wrong then I remembere ET where every one grabbed a weapon right away. In the Purge only the dad obtains a weapon prior to the attack. True it is a movie but in my mind it is the conditioning that many people have had that they are not mentally-emotionally able to switch to survival. Martial arts trains no mind,react first. Learning to clear the mind of conflicts prepares one to survive.

          • http://www.de-navarro.com dnav

            Fair enough, a soft answer turns away wrath, but also, if we cast pearls before swine they will turn and rend you. So it is a judgment call whether she needed the stern confrontation or the soft answer and I felt in necessary to be stern based on the attitude I received in her post, but I could be wrong. Nonetheless, I did what I did, and I’m stuck with it. I also notice that many others, very many others, threw “moron” back in her face as well, so I think it was a common affront that received a consistent answer.

          • cvxxx

            Possibly. IMO many post in these forms for emotional reasons not intellectual discourse. It could be that she is terrified of death or the possibility of death.

          • http://www.de-navarro.com dnav

            Agreed, I always seek civil discourse. At times when I have thrown back a name call it stirs the other to respond and I engage in a discussion about use of name calling and how it weakens arguments and that if they want to make a credible point they need to be logical and rational and civil. Sometimes it has actually worked and the original poster learned and agreed, other times it fuels the fire and then I just have to bow out. Sometimes I feel it is worth a try.

          • cvxxx

            Your are right.

      • http://www.de-navarro.com dnav

        You can survive.

        Here’s another tip. Every public place has fire extinguishers at
        least every 75 feet minimum by law, when you enter a store, school,
        business, ALWAYS look for the where the closest fire extinguisher is.
        Make it a habit.

        Two reasons. If a fire breaks out, you know where an extinguisher is and you can be equipped. Most people panic and run when they could have put the fire out.

        And in a dire situation, a fire extinguisher would not be a bad weapon to use against an armed killer. When reloading, you charge them, shoot the extinguisher powder in their face (they can’t finish reloading and won’t be able to see you), be sure to run in an evasive pattern, not just straight ahead.

        When you get to the person, you clobber them with the fire extinguisher.

        Most people will be taken out by fire extinguishing powder in the face or if it is a CO2 extinguisher, subzero chemical in the face will do the trick.

    • hbbill

      It’s cliche, but…..”when seconds count, the police are only minutes away’” Plus this…..The Supreme Court Of The United States has ruled that the police are under no legal obligation to protect you. Google it.

    • Lawrence Behr

      U S Soldiers risk their lives every day in the line of live fire, are they stupid too…

    • Rebecca

      The cops never get there to stop these wackos. They show up after there’s way more than one dead and the perp has off’d himself. Then most, like at Columbine, they just lock everything down and wait for all the victims to die before going in and do anything.
      Your the moron. He was close at hand and after the guy reloaded he would very likely have been one of the next. Get shoot charging and trying to live or get shoot in the back running. I would choose trying to live too.

      • cvxxx

        The cops learned that Columbine taught them the old tactics meant more victims. The first thought must be to survive. In these cases attacking is the best. Many years ago there was a shooter outside the white house. The same thing happened a bystander tackled the shooter.
        Against a lone shooter confrontation is the best action. The Shooter in Oregon mall that had 10000 shoppers was stopped with no victims by a citizen who had a gun.

        • http://www.de-navarro.com dnav

          Here’s another clue. Every public place has fire extinguishers at least every 75 feet minimum by law, when you enter a store, school, business, ALWAYS look for the where the closest fire extinguisher is. Make it a habit.

          Two reasons. If a fire breaks out, you know where an extinguisher is and you can be equipped. Most people panic and run when they could have put the fire out.

          And in a dire situation, a fire extinguisher would not be a bad weapon to use against an armed killer. When reloading, you charge them, shoot the extinguisher powder in their face (they can’t finish reloading and won’t be able to see you), be sure to run in an evasive pattern, not just straight ahead.

          When you get to the person, you clobber them with the fire extinguisher.

          Just another survival tip. Most people will be taken out by fire extinguishing powder in the face or if it is a CO2 extinguisher, subzero chemical in the face will do the trick.

    • Pat

      No RondaOR that not the answer! Because there is NOT a cop on every corner sometimes you have to think for yourself!
      This young man is a Hero!
      He did the correct thing, he was the hall monitor and he cracked a nut!
      I agree. a 100% with Doug Giles. There aren’t enough men out r there like Jon. We need more men and women to think and take action when needed.
      You see its like this… law abiding citizen’s follow laws… criminals don’t and saying in a weak voice “hey you cant do that” will do absolutely nothing to a criminal. They have no conscious.

    • yaki534

      Police, God bless them for what they do, Have an average response time of 8 minutes.

      • cyberKICK

        Even 8 minutes… how many would he have killed in those 8 minutes? Assuming the second the police get there the killing stops.

    • cvxxx

      Speed is more important. In cases like this attack is the best action. These people are not trained. Attacking distracts it is human nature to duck. When a person is ducking they are not shooting. That is why mobs take down armed soldiers some will get hit most won’t.
      The mind must reach to the lizard brain that wants to live and will do anything to get at the attacker. It is 98% mental-emotional.

      • yaelra

        RhondaOr is a liberal troll. You’ll see her on these sites just opposing anything that is common sense. She sounds like a college kid and has the logic of a high school kid.

        • CharlieFromMass

          She’s that mature? You took an extra dose of nice pills this morning, I see…

          I taught high school, and even the real barrel-scrapings were a little evolved beyond that. She’s thinking more like….oh, maybe a sixth-grader.

          • JT

            I teach 6th graders. Don’t insult them like that. They’d all be for piling on that POS Ybarra and taking him down. Most of them have shot shotguns. We compare shooting experiences.

          • CharlieFromMass

            Good point. I’ve done quite a bit of time subbing junior high and most of them are pretty bright, or at least eager to learn, if nothing else.

            I also told the kids if another Adam Lanza happens, get in the corner and tilt the desks front-first, and arm yourself with all you books…if the psychopath breaks in, toss chairs, desks, books, and aim for the SOB’s head.

  • http://outdrs.net George Bennett

    In NY he would have been arrested for having pepper spray.

    • Kaiser

      And that’s why I have no interest in going to New York. They’re loonies over there.

      • http://outdrs.net George Bennett

        If we could sell our home,we would be out in a NY minute.

        • Kaiser

          God bless you and good luck.

      • cvxxx

        Email your legislature representatives to repeal that law. Take responsibility to change things.

      • Bobbala

        There coming to you. It’s a two-fer. They get away from the crime, taxes and bureaucracy. They get to “fix” you.

    • KJ

      Shhhhhh… You’re going to give the Obamaites, liberals, socialists, progressives, and communists bad ideas. If it was up to them, we’d have nothing to defend ourselves but blunted plastic sporks and pea shooters.

  • VictorLandry

    When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away. In today’s society, the cops are more going to investigate the crime, rather than stop it.

    • yaki534

      Average response time is eight minutes.

    • Steven

      In ANY society, the police are more for investigating crime than stopping it. That has ALWAYS been true.

      • shamu9

        They All come from the Same Direction Slowly, Sirens Blaring to give the “Jassacks” Time to Get Away!!

  • monacall

    Oh yeah get rid of your guns the cops are on their way…… and in this case don’t get rid of your pepper spray….

  • jeepdude911

    And the winner of the brass balls award is: Jon Meis.

  • David Gray

    I sent Jon and his future wife a gift from their wedding registry. It’s always fun to pay forward and thanks to Mr. Doug Giles for the contact info from twitter feeds he posted.

  • Average_Joe56

    These Are The 13 Rules Of Gun fighting Everyone Should Know

    Have a gun.

    Some words to the wise. Shooting Advice from various Concealed Carry Instructors. If you own a gun, you will appreciate this. If not, you should get one and learn how to use it.

    1) Guns have only two enemies: rust and politicians.

    2) It’s always better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

    3) Cops carry guns to protect themselves, not you.
    (remember this truism at all times)

    4) Never let someone or something that threatens you get inside arms length.

    5) Never say “I’ve got a gun.” If you need to use deadly force, the first sound they hear should be the safety clicking off. (“Glock’s” are the exception to this rule…)

    6) The average response time of a 911 call is 23 minutes, the response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. ( the police are there to fill out the crime scene report…make sure that you are still there to see that it’s an accurate report)

    7) The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win – cheat if necessary.

    8) Make your attacker advance through a wall of bullets…You may get killed with your own gun, but he’ll have to beat you to death with it, cause it’ll be empty.

    9) If you’re in a gun fight:
    If you’re not shooting, you should be loading.
    If you’re not loading, you should be moving.
    If you’re not shooting, moving or loading, you’re probably dead…or real close to being dead.

    10) In a life and death situation, do something…It may be wrong, but do something!

    11) If you carry a gun, people call you paranoid. Nonsense! If you have a gun, what do you have to be paranoid about?

    12) You can say ‘stop’ or ‘alto’ or any other word, but a large bore muzzle pointed at someone’s forehead is pretty much….. universal language.

    13) You cannot save the planet, but you may be able to save yourself and your family.

    • Eliott

      You should send this to the Democrats in Congress and the Senate. I could just see their heads spinning now. lol

      • Cameron Triplett Sr

        Nah, makes too much sense for Congress to comprehend.

    • JT

      Well said. And if you’re in a fair fight, you didn’t plan well!

      • Average_Joe56

        I always carry a couple of extra magazines with me… I never know when I may need to do some extended “reading”…….. ;)

  • tiredofitall

    Wonder how long it will take the libatards to ban pepper spray from schools?

    • Eliott

      Great one!

    • sandraleesmith46

      Not just schools!

  • ActualConundrum

    I wonder if he gets expelled from university now. Businesses fire anyone who stops a crime or fights for their lives. The worl is whacko today.

  • willowa

    The chest thumping, male aggression (which obviously needs self control) that so many criticize is what has kept the human race alive for many thousand of years! Don’t forget, about that, as many seem to have!

  • http://www.de-navarro.com dnav

    Survival Tip

    Don’t forget that every public place has fire extinguishers at least every 75 feet minimum by law, when you enter a store, school, business, ALWAYS look for the where the closest fire extinguisher is. Make it a habit.

    Two reasons.

    1) If a fire breaks out, you know where an extinguisher is and you can be equipped. Most people panic and run when they could have put the fire out.

    2) In dire situation where an armed killer is attacking in a public place, a fire extinguisher would not be a bad weapon to use against an armed killer if yo have nothing else. While the armed killer is reloading, you charge them, shoot the
    extinguisher powder in their face. They can’t finish reloading and won’t be able to see you. Be sure to run in an evasive pattern, not just straight ahead.

    When you get to the person, you clobber them with the fire extinguisher in some vital area, preferably the head. Then tackle them and yell your head off for others to “Pile on.”

    Most people will be taken out by fire extinguishing powder in the face or if it is a CO2 extinguisher, subzero chemical in the face will do the trick.

    • sandraleesmith46

      Excellent points. Also a fire ax or even old fashioned fire hose can be useful weapons! Those brass nozzles are solid and heavy, and the hose itself gives you distance and something to secure the perp with. A roll of duct tape is also good for securing.

    • jim_wright

      While I do agree that in the event you are unarmed the fire extinguisher would be a viable option, I would really rather use my 45 and end the shooter. I carry because I don’t like the idea of being a victim.

      • grumpy3625

        Yeah, I always liked that that scene in the “Raiders Of The Lost Ark” where he was standing a few yards away from this huge towel head who was swinging his sword around, so he pulls out his gun and just shoots the bastard. That was a priceless scene.

      • http://www.de-navarro.com dnav

        While I fully agree, and I would carry where I can, you run the risk of being needlessly arrested, your firearms confiscated and becoming a criminal for carrying in a school or bank or other such liberal zone of total fear and surrender, so the survival tip is obviously intended for those situation where blowing away the a~~hole is not available.

    • LibGuy

      A fire extinguisher is a great idea. At night, another great idea is a pocket flashlight. Read this article: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/07/23/former-seal-shares-tips-on-how-to-protect-yourself-in-a-shooting-like-that-in-colorado/ I carry a 320 lumen flashlight with momentary on capability (forward clicky in flashlight lingo). I can whip the light out and train it on someone’s face in about a second. A short tap will send a powerful light pulse (it hurts to look at it in broad daylight) into their eyes, disorienting the target and allowing quick maneuvering. It would be better to be shooting something more than photons at a bad guy but it might be an only option for many people.

      • http://www.de-navarro.com dnav

        If that is what you got, you make it work.

  • Dennis

    The nice thing is that he was able to take this suicidal bastard alive to be held accountable for his actions. I pray that our justice system works and doesn’t turn this into a circus.

    • Hangman54

      I agree with you…
      …but as far as it not being a circus… I wouldn’t hold my breath…

      • Dennis

        I’ve had to draw my weapon to stop a situation several times, but so far, thank God, I haven’t had to shoot. We, as gun owners, need to continually train ourselves to know when we need to shoot or not. Taking a bad guy alive is a risk because of the legal wranglings available to someone on the legally defensive side. I’m all in favor of stand your ground laws, but restraint and self control is needed on our part. Every time a bad guy is killed with a gun, the anti-gunners add that to their list of gun deaths, justified or not. The media rarely reports on when guns in the hands of civilians deter crime.

    • fight4liberty

      You are talking Seattle… yes, it is good he was taken alive… if he had been killed some local group would have claimed him a martyr, blah blah blah.

    • jerrycollie

      It would be better if he had been able to kill the perp. Now the taxpayers have to pay for his keep and his lawyers; who will get him off on insanity, and then get him released after 5 years.

      • Dennis

        Unfortunately, there are a lot of things wrong with our justice system that need fixed. Too often, the people we elect to do this only do what they do to maintain their status and don’t care what happens down the road. We have to start with ourselves, research who we’re electing, and don’t become complacent on political issues. The people we elect are supposed to represent us, and need to know what our concerns are. Our founding fathers realized that the majority can be wrong. That’s why our form of government is supposed to be a republic, not a democracy.

        • jerrycollie

          True.

  • wdcraftr

    RondaOR says it is better to let the thug kill 20 more people, while they wait for the Cops, than for one person to maybe die trying to save those 20 people.. Smart woman, that Ronda… Also the Biggest Coward on this here blog.. The Bible lists Cowards as one of those groups that are going to Hell.. Hope you like it Hot Ronda..

    • OzzWorx

      RhondaOR is a troll whose only purpose is to stifle reasonable discussion by being unreasonable. This is our money being used by the leftists.

  • 4lifeandfreedom

    It will be turned into a circus by the clowns in D.C. Chaos across the country is the goal for the non-leaders we have!

  • ONTIME

    Indeed Meis did show the quality of manhood and responsibility to protect and survive and why the security for the school is not armed is a serious question, “What good are they if they are not armed and ready to protect?”..I suppose they were going to wait for the real cops to show and then write the guy a ticket for actions unbecoming a student…

    • Eliott

      Well said ONTIME. All of these schools should have armed security and I don’t mean these 75 year old retired cops. By the way, do you think the liberals will try and get a ban on shotguns? lol

      • jerrycollie

        No, the libs will want to ban the pepper spray! ;-)

        • Cameron Triplett Sr

          In Nam, tear gas was used to root VC out of tunnels until some idiots decided that making the VC cry was cruel, so the Army went back to using grenades & flamethrowers to empty out a nest of Charlie. Go figure. That’s non-military “leaders” ordering servicemen around during a shooting war for ya.

          • jerrycollie

            Keep in mind, after we got them to come out by using tear gas, then we shot them. I do agree however, grenades and flamefhrowers work better. ;-)

    • LibGuy

      The strongest weapon most school security officers have on their jobs is a pretty please. That is school police.

    • John Francis Russo

      As a former “unarmed” guard, at a college campus. I often wondered how I would handle such a situation. Fortunately, I never had to. But, before taking that job I had spent years in the airborne infantry. Younger and stronger, and faster then, than I am now; I would tell people that I did not need to carry a weapon BECAUSE I was a weapon. Since I am now older, weaker, and slower than I once was; I think it is time that I start going about armed.

  • Charles P

    I DO NOT want to armed security at a college.
    They had them at the college I attended, and all they did were INSANE THINGS!
    Like pretend that students were instructors!
    And lie about who caused trouble!
    And HARASS GOOD PEOPLE, while COVERING UP FOR THE HOODLUMS!!!!

    Armed guards/police DO NOT HELP ANYONE!
    They are all too NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • grumpy3625

      Well then, What do you propose? More “Gun Free Zone” signs?

      • John Francis Russo

        Oh yes ! Gun free zones work so well. (Sarcasm)

    • sandraleesmith46

      He was a STUDENT hall monitor! Not an armed guard! We had those back in the ’50s, even in elementary schools!

    • citizen

      That’s exactly why the citizenry should be able to freely arm themselves. They have no motive, they are not under employ as armed guards or armed thugs, they are simply John Q. Public going about their little citizen lives, with a gun, alert and ready.

    • John Francis Russo

      Prejudice is an ugly thing even prejudice against security guards and LEOs. Besides, if you allow the students, themselves, to be armed, the you won’t need salaried guards.

  • grumpy3625

    When a rash of these shootings break out, followed by the clamor for stricter guns control laws, I can’t get the thought out of my mind that something is amiss. Everyone of these shooters are unstable people who can be pushed over the edge easily. They are prime, useful tools for the gun control faction to go after us. Who’s to say that someone was not whispering in their ear to do this thing? This is going to be interesting since the guy is alive and under arrest. Let’s see how this shakes out. I also find it interesting, while I’m glad that the article focused on the bravery and heroism of this young man, nothing was said about the shooters arrest, etc.

    • citizen

      They can’t organize a prisoner swap without assessing 5 years of data, and you think they can mastermind multiple shooting sprees by demented youth? Ha!

      • John Francis Russo

        They can’t arrange the release of one marine being held in Mexico. BUT, they can swap for a deserter in the middle east can’t they ?

        • citizen

          I do not agree with either situation.

    • John Francis Russo

      Yes ! AND, the connection with certain drugs used to treat ADHD is seldom mentioned. Could this be due to a combination of factors such a no prayer or Bibles in our schools, combined with drugging our kids with substances such as ritalin ?

  • Gorillab

    At the Va Tech shooting, the only person, male or female, who actually had a backbone vs. being a bedwetting little pussy was an old Jewish man with a tattoo from the Nazi concentration camps on his arm. This old man fought back and held a door so the young wimps could escape from the room. Pathetic little girly-men.

    Of course, these wimp mangina’s are what passes for today’s women…the hate males, they like girls without boobs….at least the modern feminists females do.

    Glad to see this Christian university still produces real males.

    • John Francis Russo

      Don’t worry too much. Towns like Fayetteville, NC are full of real women who love their military husbands. Remember, Barbie dumped Ken in favor of GI Joe.

  • grumpy

    OK here it comes. Now the lefty anti-gun nutbags are going to insist we turn in our guns, in exchange for some pepper spray.

    • James C. Elliott

      I’ve already heard it, Grumpy. One liberal friend posted and said “See? This proves that guns are NOT the answer!” I pointed out that on most campuses, their no weapon policy extends to pepper spray and mace, so that would not have been an option, either. No, all this proved is that guns are not the ONLY answer, but being armed and ready to act is a big part of it, and sometimes that means guns, as has been proven in several cases where armed security guards, off-duty police or even citizens with legal concealed carry weapons have stopped a shooting rampage.

    • fight4liberty

      First press conference, each speaker immediately rolled into anti-gun rhetoric… no words about heroics, just patting themselves on the back and “it’s time to end the epidemic of gun violence, blah, blah, blah”.

      • John Francis Russo

        Typical ! Some nitwits trying to take credit for what the real hero did.

  • jerrycollie

    Jon Meis is not going to be so uppity when he finds out Seattle Pacific University is going to have to expel him for bringing a weapon to campus (pepper spray); and for fighting in the hallway. Furthermore, I expect the shooter to sue him and the University for use of excessive force (his gun was empty). Sarcasm off. ;-)

    • Klankity

      Maybe sarcasm, but, sadly, we all know there is truth to your statement.

    • John Francis Russo

      I understand that Seattle Pacific University is a Christian school, NOT a tax funded brainwashing laundromat. Therefore; I do not think that the University will expel Jon Meis for saving the lives of his fellow students.

      • jerrycollie

        Sorry, I was just being sarcastic. My bad.

  • anthony

    “High Noon” is judged by most to be a great movie, and as a piece of dramatic fiction I guess it is. But I believe it was the first volley from liberal Hollywood at the wussification of America.

    There are only two instances in history that I’m aware of when townspeople had the opportunity to confront real, historical bad guys. One was the attempted robbery by the James-Younger gang of a bank in Northfield, Minnesotta on Sept. 7, 1876. The townspeople didn’t even know they were coming, had no chance to prepare for them, but shot them to pieces. Some of the people had to run to a nearby hardware store to borrow guns to confront them.
    The second instance occurred when the Dalton gang tried to rob two banks at the same time in Coffeyville, Kansas on Oct. 5, 1892 because Bob Dalton wanted to outdo anything the James-Younger gang had ever done, perhaps because his mother, Adeline Younger, was an aunt of the Younger brothers. When the townspeople discovered their banks were being robbed, they show it out with the gang. The town marshall was killed and three others were wounded, but they killed two Dalton brothers and two other gang members, and severely wounded another Dalton.
    In “High Noon,” the film makers want us to believe that an entire town would have cowered in terror because three bad guys were coming to town. They not only knew they were coming, but knew when (high noon), and where (the rail station). What would have actually happened in real life is that they would have been shot to pieces seconds after stepping off the train.
    There’s no reason for good people to cower in fear of bad people. Those good guys who charged the bad guys on June 6, 1944 against seemingly overwhelming odds showed us all what we should be capable of. Just like those people in Northfield and Coffeyville.

    • Cameron Triplett Sr

      I read that John Wayne was offered the part of town marshal in High Noon but refused it because the plot was too unrealistic, precisely because of the two incidents you stated. Mos people in the “Old West” were veterans of the War Between the States, various Indian Wars, buffalo hunters, or just folks who knew how to use guns & weren’t afraid to do it.

      • Karll

        Americans are definitely not as tough or tough minded as they used to be.

      • John Francis Russo

        Yep ! BUT, I still love that film. The bravery of that sheriff is a lesson for us all.

    • John Francis Russo

      Exactly right !! Please allow me to add another example to this list.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-mYP25kC2Y

  • barbaro70

    Oh, sure, Doug: Fall all over yourself about Meis and his heroism, drool over the guy, buy him wedding gifts! Sure! What about Aaron Ybarra–who´s taking care of him? Probably his jailers are giving him a hard time. And for what? What did Ybarra do except try to find a group hug, love in the wrong places, find some touchy feely, lib/lefty reassurance. Gosh, when did that become a sin? Let´s get together and start an Aaron Ybarra fan club–why should Dzhokar Tsarnaev get all the admiration from the teeny boppers?

    • Voncent

      If Obama and Sotomeyor had a liberal love child, would it be Ybarra?

      • FreedomStorm

        The twin would be barbaro70.

        • Paul Deckelman

          Unless I miss my guess, I believe barbaro70 was being IRONIC/sarcastic, doing a wickedly spot-on parody of where liberal “logic” – followed to its ultimate ridiculous conclusion – leads you.

          • John Francis Russo

            That IS my guess too. I hope that we are both right.

    • Karll

      I believe there are a lot of liberals who actually think like that.

    • fight4liberty

      Well if Obama had an illegitimate son with a young french woman… he could be Ybarra

    • John Francis Russo

      barbaro70 : Am I correct in my belief that you are being sarcastic ?

      • barbaro70

        I tried to make the sarcasm unmistakable, and most folks got it, but it appears that you read too much lib/lefty nonsense and have lost your sense of reality. Or maybe you only skimmed it and didn´t pay attention to all of the clues, so read it again, slowly. You really do need to regain your ability to distinguish lib/lefty propaganda from satire that makes fools out of the libs/lefties.

  • Arnold Young

    I only have 1 problem with this scenorio. The bad guy idiot should have stepped backward and fallen down the stairs with dramatic results!

  • FreedomStorm

    “Weapons compound man’s power to achieve; they amplify the capabilities of both the good man and the bad, and to exactly the same degree, having no will of their own.
    Thus we must regard them as servants, not masters — and good servants
    to good men. Without them, man is diminished, and his opportunities to fulfill his destiny are lessened. An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.”
    ….. COL. JOHN DEAN “JEFF” COOPER

  • lgwatson

    the school will probably discipline him for possession of pepper spy on the campus.

    • John Francis Russo

      I do NOT think that they will discipline him for saving lives. After all, it IS a Christian school, NOT some tax funded, state run brainwashing laundromat.

      • lgwatson

        You are probably right. I hope so.

  • TRex

    Great job Jon!

  • TexasJester

    This guy is a HERO. He put his life in jeapordy to stop an active shooter.

    Today, the term “hero” is more overused than the term “racist”, used for everyone who just does their job. Heck — I’ve seen stories of airline pilots making routine landings called heroes! But what this guy did…… I can only hope I can act with the same clearheadedness if confronted with a similar situation as this young man did.

    Btw, wasp spray is a GREAT thing to have on hand. Generally, it can spray 10-25 feet, depending on the nozzle; it will incapacitate ANYONE (even one baked out of his mind on drugs); and is perfectly legal EVERYWHERE (unlike pepper spray, which can qualify as a weapon). If asked, you’re allergic to wasps.

    • Karll

      Ha ! Never though of that! Good tip.

    • CharlieFromMass

      Fortunately, pepper spray, I believe FINALLY became fully legal in Massachusetts. For years, you needed an F-ID card (very difficult to get here,) and the legislature finally saw fit to allow people to protect themselves.

    • Stormin Mormon

      You should research wasp spray on the web (try snopes). It is pathetic on humans. I’ve had wasp spray blow back at me, and I know. Pfft, not worth the effort. Stick to bear pepper spray, please.

    • misterdawg

      It’s a lot cheaper too. I have several around the house, and have gave several to some of my lady friends with instructions, best weapon besides a gun to stop a bad guy and you just point it kind of like a shotgun.

    • LibGuy

      Wasp spray will not incapacitate people. Almost any state allows you to carry hot sauce. Be sure to get a good spray though, the generics are ineffective (personal experience).

    • jsl55

      A can of hairspray and a Bic lighter would work.

      • John Francis Russo

        Not as much range as the wasp spray; but better than nothing. AND, if one is caught off guard; it IS better to improvise, adapt, and overcome; than to do nothing.

    • John Francis Russo

      If asked, I would not lie. I am not allergic to wasps. But, I DO have a GOD GIVEN RIGHT to self defense, with any weapon I choose : gun, knife, club, or iunsect spray.

  • Cameron Triplett Sr

    Some jake-legged, two-bit-cheap-suit lawyer will plead him not guilty by reason of mental defect & he’ll be out in no time.

  • themelios

    It appears that Jon Meis is a gun guy. I was able to view his Facebook “Likes” page (which, for some reason, can’t be accessed anymore) and he listed the NRA, several gun companies, a concealed carry holster company, and other gun friendly entities. It figures: Good people who like and own guns are more likely to be oriented toward protecting self and others in a crisis like this.

    • GenEarly

      Hence the news cessation on this shooting and the Cicci’s Pizza-Walmart Vegas is the preferred shooting du jour. Also the shooters in Vegas may have been Wacists!

      • John Francis Russo

        I think we should compare the Vegas shooting with the Seattle shooting. In seattle, ONE death due to a brave young man. In Vegas, 5 deaths, including 2 law officers. Do the math. 4 lives were saved by fast action and the use of pepper spray.

        • John Francis Russo

          Also compare the movie theater shooting in Colorado at a showing of batman to another shooting, also in Colorado, at a church parking lot, where one of the intended victims was armed and able to shoot back.

  • Annette Rose Giesbrecht

    Wow! Good that there are still men like Jon Meis in the world.

    • John Francis Russo

      YES ! AND, in the younger generation as well, not just old veterans.

  • Oleo Ranch

    If I didn’t have a CCW, as I enter a public room, I would look for the nearest fire extinguisher to use as a weapon (to spray the face, not use as a club, like the government video showed)

    • John Francis Russo

      Why not do BOTH. Spary the face to blind the perp, and then bash his skull ?

  • worldwatchman

    A pathetic human being will twist the system and be declared nuts and will spend the rest of his life in a hospital where he won’t be turned into someone’s *itch in prison. He should have to go to prison and be nuts there.

  • robocop33

    Good for you Jon! Naturally nothing was said in the news about his heroic actions and self-preservasion. That might encourage other to act like he did but how they should cower in a corner waiting for either the police to show up or to be killed by the shooter. Me? I’d shoot the bastard but that’s because I am always armed and a retired LEO with the training to do this but even if I weren’t armed, this old crippled body would do something, anything to fight back and not go meekly to his death!

  • kyrunner

    Great to see we still have real men in America today. Best of luck on his pending marriage as well.His wife is marrying a REAL man. Glad to see he is also a NRA supporter.

  • mule man

    I wonder if the libs will try to down play his actions as too risky or fool hardy

    • John Francis Russo

      I would bet that they will. While fools always portray caution as cowardice; cowards always portray bravery as foolishness.

  • LibGuy

    As a member of the citizen corps, we are taught to place our personal safety above the safety of others at all times. This attitude is ingrained in everyone, to simply be a witness to a crime. Fortunately, a student disregarded that advice and saved the day.

    • http://www.de-navarro.com dnav

      That’s where the citizen corps and every other civilian “crime training” is wrong.

      As a banker we are taught in robbery training every year to totally comply with a robbers demands and do what he/she says. Unfortunately, others who have followed this advice died in hostage situations, getting tied up and when the robber was done he executed the three office workers and on and on ad infinitum.

      The day that someone sticks a gun in my face and thinks I’m just going to lay down and die is the worst day in that person’s life, because I am a survivor. I would rather die trying than be violated in any way. And I will give myself to save others in a heartbeat.

      Obviously I’ll assess the situation and if it some punk with a hidden gun that wants the money in the drawer, I’ll follow procedures and give him his chunk of cash and sound the alarm get his description etc. But if some maniac comes in brandishing a gun, screaming at people, shooting at the ceiling to terrorize everyone, that is a NUT case. Oh, I’ll pretend I’m in fear and cower, only as I’m grabbing the weapon I keep stored near me and looking for the first opportunity to attack.

      Same thing anywhere else. I will attack any perpetrator of any crime as soon as the first opportunity to attack arises, and if I get to them without being shot, I pity them.

      • John Francis Russo

        Amen ! Don’t just rush in foolishly. BUT, DO wait for your chance; and then take out the trash. I praise both your courage and your wisdom.

    • John Francis Russo

      Such teachings will be the downfall of this nation. There is a name for placing one’s own safety above the safety of others at all times. It is called COWARDICE ! If everyone acted that way, there would be no firemen, no police, and no military, nor rescue workers either.

      Please note : my criticism is NOT of you personally; but of the teaching. Your post does NOT state that you endorse such a cowardly attitude.

  • GM

    John Giles writes and sounds like a 14 year old.

    • TRex

      John? Is that Doug’s brother? You read like a 2nd grader. Seems like people enjoy Doug’s columns. Did you notice the number of shares on this column, GM?

    • John Francis Russo

      GM, having just read your post, I would say, “Look in the mirror.”

  • truepatriotintx

    My guess is that Mr. Meis is a conservative, any bets?

    • John Francis Russo

      Attending a Christian school !! Yes, I would say that odds favor Mr. Meis being a Christian AND a conservative.

  • David Stovall

    Wait for the school kicking him out and prosecutors indictment for bringing pepper spray on school grounds.

    • John Francis Russo

      Being a Christuian school, I think that he will NOT be repremanded, but thanked. If it were a tax funded school; then I would worry.

    • lilolady

      How’s that go ..”No Good Deed,… “

  • Jaclyn Barnes

    My hats off to this extremely brave young man,who took.This shooter down while he was reloading so he could kill more innocent people.
    Next thing Obama will try to out law pepper spray.I read that Hussein Obama is now trying to figure a way out,to have.Your guns confiscated like in Australia yea let the,crazy people,have guns.So they can kill defenseless Americans who have lost,rights to.Own guns because Muslim Hussein Obama who wants to make America safer,for the criminal.I wonder what would happen if Obama’s daughters were,ever shot!!!!How he would feel oh that’s right they go to a school,that has.Armed security guards unlike American children who do not so these criminals,can have.A good old time at killing innocent children.

    • John Francis Russo

      Don’t forget that there is an armed group of secret service agents assigned to protect Obama and his family AT ALL TIMES in or out of school.

      • Jaclyn Barnes

        I know he’ll even unfortunately have them not as,many as now.Because without them he and his ungrateful family could,not survive.In the real world.

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