Pro-Life activist Lila Rose appeared on a recent episode of “Dr. Phil” and got into a heated back-and-forth with an audience member.
From Fox News:
A new Dr. Phil installment centering on abortion and the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade saw a pro-life advocate clash with the show’s host and an audience member during several tense exchanges on Monday.
In the first episode of Dr. Phil’s 21st season, pro-life activist Lila Rose sat down with the doctor, as well as a pro-choice couple to discuss various facets of the abortion issue, including the question of when life begins.
Dr. Phil said nobody on the panel is “pro-death” or “pro-abortion,” instead labeling the divide over abortion as a disagreement between those who are “pro-choice,” and those who are “pro-life.”
The show host is trying to be as diplomatic as possible and not step on toes, but the heart of the abortion issue is when life begins.
One particular exchange between Rose and an audience member made it pretty clear that the central question of when life begins is something that pro-abortion activists do not want to address.
“There is nothing that you can possibly say to justify that level of lack of empathy,” the woman yelled at Rose, to the applause of audience members. “That’s the problem I feel like in this country, at the moment, we were founded on the lack of empathy, and we’ve just kept up with that tradition. You have no empathy.”
In response, Rose said that people don’t like to talk about the mental health toll that abortion can have on women.
“You know what it’s really like to get raped and then have to have the child, what kind of trauma is that producing on somebody?” shouted the woman.
“The child’s an innocent party there–,” replied Rose.
“The child isn’t born yet—it’s not there,” shouted the woman angrily.
Rose said that it’s wrong to take out “generational sin” on an innocent child. The audience member said that the focus of the discussion should be about the “right” that was taken away and what other rights might be next.
Rose’s response was powerful,”I want to address that because our fundamental right that we all share in this room is life. It’s the first human right. Laws are meant to protect the week, in a society who’s the weakest? Who’s the weakest in society? A child. They don’t have a voice.”
The woman disagreed and said that the children weren’t the weakest in society — it was actually the poor that are the weakest.
Rose said, “whether you live 10 minutes or 10 years, or 100 years, you’re a human life, and you have the right not to be killed.”
Mike Cernovich posted the clip on his Twitter account with an interesting suggestion… turn the volume down and see if you can tell who is on the side of “good” and who is on the side of “evil” without hearing what they’re saying.
Turn volume down fully.
Do you have any difficulty ascertaining who is good and who is evil, without knowing what they are saying?
— Cernovich (@Cernovich) September 12, 2022
Rose also got into a disagreement with Dr. Phil about when life begins.
He insisted that there is “no consensus” in the scientific community about when life begins, but Lila brought the facts.
.@LilaGraceRose brings SCIENCE to Dr Phil:
96% of 5,577 biologists from 1,058 academic institutions affirmed that human's life begins at fertilization
"If it isn't a human life in the womb, why do you have to kill it?"
Science is crystal clear that life begins at fertilization pic.twitter.com/fZ1YkHvS9a
— Live Action (@LiveAction) September 13, 2022
“If it’s not a life, then why do you have to kill it?” asks Rose.
Rose got called out the pro-abortion position of determining that life begins at birth in an exchange with Christian F. Nunes, president of the National Organization for Women (NOW).
Nunes dodges Rose’s questions about the extreme position that NOW holds — abortion on demand for all 9 months of pregnancy — which is much farther than the vast majority of Americans think should be permitted.
Every pro-abortion group – Planned Parenthood, ACLU, NARAL, etc supports abortion on babies up until birth, for any reason, without restriction
They know it’s extremely unpopular w/most Americans & a losing issue.
I asked the head of NOW to explain their position & she dodges. pic.twitter.com/WOTlDqMBju
— Lila Rose (@LilaGraceRose) September 13, 2022
Lila Rose handled herself admirably in each exchange, despite being the one painted as holding the “extreme” position.
Kudos to Dr. Phil for bringing on a rational pro-life advocate who knows her stuff on his show.
Credit where it’s due — he seems to want to have real conversations instead of caricaturing the pro-life position which is what has been done for the last half a century.
Very far from the CNN approach, that’s for sure
— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) September 13, 2022
Lila did a fantastic job defending the pro-life position.
Let’s pray her calm, rational demeanor changes hearts and minds.
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